What's the best movepool for Venusaur in Pokemon Red/Blue?
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What's the best movepool for Venusaur in Pokemon Red/Blue?
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Mega Drain
Body Slam/EQ
Leech Seed
Toxic
Does it make sense for a green plant to create earthquake
>Does it make sense
Yes. He uses roots underground to make the earth tremble.
Makes more sense than 90% of gen 1 mons who learn Earthquake.
>gen 1 venusaur without sleep powder
The accuracy was terrible bro
sleep was broken in gen 1 bro
75 accuracy is literally the best sleep accuracy you can get in gen 1 without resorting to using a shitmon like Parasect.
Say that again I dare you
Sleep Powder
Razor Leaf
Earthquake
Body Slam/Swords Dance
This moveset sucks dick, leech toxic is a terrible and slow gimmick and mega drain blows.
post ELO
OP asked for a single player moveset not a competitive moveset you DOUBLE Black person
>He doesn't know
About the toxic leech seed stacking glitch? Everyone knows about that, it's just not practical in a single player mode where you can pretty easily mow down most mons in 1-3 turns.
>40 power megadrain vs 55 power razor leaf always landing a crit
>leechseed and toxic being worth anything in a game with no valid stall mechanics
I'd accuse you of only playing fire red but even fire red had gigadrain.
>in a game with no valid stall mechanics
it's called chansey
>chansey spams toxic and softboiled
>vaporeon or something spams ice beam
>not razor leaf that is a guaranteed crit, effectively giving you a 110 BP move that always ignores buffs
I should've emphasized 110 bp is before stab makes it 165.
Venusaur doesn't get Eartquake in RB
Hyperbeam
The correct choice is:
choose
charmander,
learn
slash
Why every other thread extra shit today.
sleep powder
sunny day
leech seed
solarbeam
>sunny day
Anything with razor leaf because of the critical hit ratios being bugged.
Body slam for massive damage .
>Razor Leaf (Look up Gen 1 crit mechanics, high crit moves are broken)
>Sleep Powder
>Leech Seed
>Body Slam / Hyper Beam / Toxic (depends on what your team needs)
Leech Seed is too slow in gen 1, better to run two coverage moves or Swords Dance.
What other coverage move can you give it, it only learns normal and grass moves in gen 1
teach it both body slam and toxic
Oh shit, Ganker just fricking gaslighted me into thinking Gen 1 Venusaur had EQ.
Swords Dance + Body Slam then.
Sword dance existed in gen 1??
Yes. It's even a TM.
https://pokemondb.net/item/tm03
Damn I never knew that. Thought it first appeared in gen 2.
there's a couple moves that originate in gen 1 without people realizing it
a notable one is waterfall which was the signature move of goldeen, and completely useless because surf existed
You find a tm pretty early iirc
Fun fact, before gen 5 every single starter learned EQ except for gen 1-2 Venusaur for some reason
Putting it in the box and running a good Pokemon instead.
Egg-kun is too late
>golbat uses leech life
>fricking dies
No thank you
Golbat Leech Life vs. Exeggutor: 61-72 (15.5 - 18.3%) -- possible 6HKO
It's Quadra Effective
20->80
>Bug and Poison used to be mutually “super effective” against each other in Gen 1
Daaaamn why did they change that?
yes anon, that 6ko was with quad-effective calculated in
without that it would do basically zero damage
nobody used fricking leech life in gen 1
Yes I know
I was pretending to be moronic
>golbat uses 80 power leech life thinking that's good because it's 4x20
>executor uses 270 power psychic and 1hkos the moron bat
I'm guessing they wanted to make poison slightly less shit defensively but didn't want to nerf bug too hard, so they just changed the interaction into a flat one way resist.
A shame to lose such a unique interaction though, yeah.
Leech Life in Gen 1 has 20 BP
Even if that was an issue, Bug is also SE against poison in Gen 1 you dumb shit, so Venusaur is also x4 weak to it.
>thinks 4x weakness =instant trash
>doesnt understand how the damage calculator works
>doesnt even know the mechanics of the game hes arguing about
b***h if you dont know what the frick youre talking about shut the hell up homosexual
You should honestly never post again
>thinking and planning about his mons' moves
It's fun
>Razor Leaf
>Poison Powder
>Sleep Powder
>Solar Beam
>Having two status effect moves
At least replace Poison Powder with Toxic and Sleep Powder with Leech Seed.
>Mega Drain
>Razor Leaf
>Solar Beam
>Sleep Powder
OP here. This is exactly what I was looking for. Everyone can stop posting now.
How did you know my moveset from 2 decades ago?
>Gen 1 Type Match-Up Fun Facts
Poison and Bug are mutually weak to one another
Psychic is immune to Ghost
Fire does not resist Ice
Dragon is coded to be SE against itself, but the only Dragon move deals set damage so this interaction is impossible to see in normal gameplay
>Dragon is coded to be SE against itself, but the only Dragon move deals set damage so this interaction is impossible to see in normal gameplay
Did they run out of time to make more?
Gen 1 was a rushed, cobbled together mess yes.
>Dragon is coded to be SE against itself, but the only Dragon move deals set damage so this interaction is impossible to see in normal gameplay
This has always been fricking stupid
gen 1 trivia is fun
Like how in gen 1 scyther was incapable of learning any damage move that wasn't normal type even through tm's
Only in yellow did it learn wing attack which was base 35 power
Scyther would have genuinely been an amazing mon if it was pure Normal Gen 1.
but since it wasn't it was basically budget Persian
which is beyond sad
He can learn mimic, though, and in Gen 1 that lets you literally just pick any move from the Pokemon you're facing to permanently copy
>permanently copy
For the duration of the battle, and only in single player. In pvp it just copies a random move.
My favorite gen 1 trivia is always move related, like how Focus Energy is straight up bugged and cuts your crit chance instead of increasing it. Or, despite all the powercreep, we still haven't reached the point of busted ass moves like Gen 1 Blizzard, Gen 1 Amnesia, Gen 1 Hyper Beam, or Gen 1 Wrap.
honestly though?
Bring Back Gen 1 Hyperbeam
instead of being a useless move, it was a legit tactical choice to use it, and especially these days with 120 base power moves being reasonably common it wouldn't be near overpowered
>Psychic is immune to ghost
I do not believe you
try it out, lick is the only ghost move that deals actual damage in gen 1
which is probably why nobody knows because lick is a base 20 power physical move and Gengar has piss-poor attack stat
speaking about lick, in gen 1 lickitung could not learn lick
Yup, due to an oversight GF fricked up the type interaction. Hard to tell though when ghost moves are such shit in Gen 1.
Bite was a normal move in gen 1 but it became Dark in gen 2. So was Bite actually better in gen 1 or Gen 2?
Charizard couldn't learn Fly in Red/Blue, but if you trade it to Gold then send it back with Fly you could use it.
I think what is bizarre is the change they made between gen 1 swift and gen 2 is that in gen 1 it cannot miss, but it can miss when a Pokémon is using Dig or Fly but it still has the description that it always hits but it's not true.
What's the best movepool for Dragonite in Pokemon Red/Blue?
Thunderwave/Agility/Wrap/Hyper Beam
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Body Slam
Razor Leaf
this moveset can solo the entire game without problem
>they made solar beam the coolest move in anime
>it sucks ass in Gen1
i hate Gen1 games
>ctrl f
>only 4 hyper beam
hyper beam on everything. It was legitimately broken back then
>EQ
>Hyperbeam
>Razor Leaf
>Swords Dance or maybe sleep powder
I like PLA the most of recent games as it shook up the battle system a bit, and I love the new catching mechanics. Far better than the regular ones and infinitely better than GOshit.
>EQ
venusaur can't learn earthquake in gen 1
also it's a poor user of hyperbeam because it's attack isn't high enough to oneshot reliably
>check
>Venusaur line doesnt learn tm26
I guess it was the only gen I starter who couldn't learn EQ in Gen I. I know it learned it later on but I figured since Blastoise and Charizard learned in R/B/Y it must have too.
they gave Venusaur the best stats of the three but the smallest movepool
Eh, small but still the best of the three. Sleep Powder is just that good, and realistically the only thing it needs EQ for anyway is Gengar.
Hyper Beam is very good but for most mons Body Slam is the more consistent neutral coverage option.
megadrain
Leech seed
Toxic
solar beam