What's the big deal about the praise Demon's Souls receives on Ganker? Was it always considered better than Dark Souls here or is it a recent trend?
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What's the big deal about the praise Demon's Souls receives on?
shit is rough so it's kino
the more casual friendly your game gets the less popular Ganker will find it
But Demon's Souls is the most casual of the Souls games
that would be elden ring
Not when you have to beat 1-1 without leveling up. The levels are far harder to exploit as well.
>Not when you have to beat 1-1 without leveling up.
Are you joking?
1-1 definitely fricks new people up. Imagine a new player trying to do the Ostrava thing, or interacting with dragons.
only 1-3/1-4 is hard, because the enemies scale so ridicolously rapidly after you cross a double door into Boletarian Palace that the ridicolous amount of healing consumables you get can't save you from the alpha damage of mobs
One of my friends quit on 1-1 cause it was too hard and it pissed him off having to start from the beginning every time. He never played a from game after that until he bought into the elden ring hype and he beat that. So yea, DeS is harder.
dont tell him to play anything before his year of birth which i guess is 2005
Lots of morons quit 1-1 because they had no idea how to play a souls game.
There's more players that quit at Taurus Demon, having done the burg and dying to him 100 times, ending up grinding 15 levels there.
In terms of damage and HP counts, DeS is extremely casual compared to any of the sequels.
The game is balanced around a player in soul form but with the cling ring on.
Bosses also have like no HP compared to DS1/2/3, their values are literally 1/2 on average.
DeS was hard as shit when it was the first time we'd done this before. Now that we're all the way at Eldan Rang we can sit back and go, "Yeah that was so fricking casual LOL"
Piss off.
>Lots of morons quit 1-1 because they had no idea how to play a souls game.
Yes because there were no fricking souls games except demons souls which just came out. The frick are you talking about?
same, except my friend completed sekiro, bb, ds1 & 2, but didn't reach phalanx.
Enemies in 1-1 don't do any damage they're clearly scaled for a player with half HP. Even the Blue Eye knight 3 shots you.
If this was any other souls game, you'd get 3-4 shot by a hollow and 1 shot by the elite knight if you had half HP as any starting class.
1-1 is the easiest level of the entire Souls series unless you die to the wyverns
Gundyr was more of a filter
Believe it or not, there was a time when Dark Souls didn't exist.
Demon's Souls got popular on Ganker before it even got a western release. People imported and hyped it up, then when it was finally released it was beloved.
I won't pretend Ganker was solely responsible, but the fact that it was so popular here definitely helped Dark Souls get created in the first place.
Basically every single Demon's Souls comic made originated here.
It was a breath of fresh air while also being an extremely accessible non-western game that also niche as frick. A perfect storm of Ganker circlejerking potential. Decent but extremely gate-kept.
Well now that the cat is out of the bag, and souls games are mainstream, Ganker hates it.
Surprise, surprise.
what i hate about "new souls" are some design choices which weren't on demons souls, i couldn't give a frick less if its popular or not
Yes unlike DeS, the new souls game don't cater to mindless button mashing and spamming roll the second you see a boss move slightly, you kinda need to read the attack and react properly.
>mindless buttom mashing
if you've never played the game just said you are poor and mommy didn't got you a ps3 moronic kid
Unless you're fatrolling, something you should never do because armor sucks ass and has no poise, DeS rollspam is even stronger than DS3.h
This. It was the dragon's dogma of Ganker before dragon's dogma was even a thing
but dragon dogma was always shit
point proven
It was being raved about on every gaming website. If you followed gaming news in general you would have heard of it. Not sure Ganker can claim that much responsibility for it.
Dark Souls 1 just aged really poorly compared to the rest of the series
Theres many things it still does best in the series
>Nexus is arguably the best, most atmospheric and unique hub
>probably the bleakest atmosphere in general
>setting, armor and weapons are the most realistically medieval in the series
>black world tendency is a great idea done incorrectly, tendency itself is a cool idea but was executed poorly and even worse with Gravelording in DS1
quests and ideas have been reused to death by this point, which Demon's started most of, Elden Ring has very little actually new things
world tendency is a great idea done incorrectly, tendency itself is a cool idea but was executed poorly and even worse with Gravelording in DS1
Both suck ass. I hope Shadow of the Erdtree coming so late allows From design covenants that don't ruin the game
There's arguments for and against it really. In retrospect Demon's Souls is a more complete experience, while Dark Souls' tail end clearly suffered from time constraints.
I know normies who think DeS and DS2 are the best as well. Some people just have poor taste I guess.
If someone prefers Demon's Souls and DS2 they are anything but a normie.
That's my point, its not a contrarian thing, its a bad taste thing.
Don't you dare lump Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 2 together. Demon's Souls didn't need 3 fricking DLC levels to mitigate how below par the base game is.
DeS levels are on par with DS2 vanilla.
Only Stonefang and Latria are decent levels with multiple paths, shortcuts and verticality.
None of that shit matters compared to making a level more than a different colored hallway. Having an actual setting for your game is cool, clearly nobody gave a frick about DS2s.
DS2 has the best levels
Demon's Souls is clunky garbage
Is this a webm of someone with Parkinson's playing Demon's Souls?
looks like a woman with the reaction of a dead fish
Take your meds.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/gKiT0FlYT8gDSVNipGfA6A/
The webm that genocided Demon's Souls gays
Playing it like DS3, typical zoomer
I don't get it...
that’s because it’s a webm of someone playing like a moron
NOT SO FAST
WHAT THE FRICK?!??
holy shit
IT'S SO OVER
WE'RE SO BACK
Did DSP do a playthough of DeS?
yes
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_QtSMEGimbwBW_6pgudgGzp3_anrWnpn&si=xqSH5q8pehfm2kaX
he seems to be doing great with stfaight sword spam due to nature of Demon's Souls no poise stunlockfest
The best thing about des is the combat bugs (fast cast) made the pvp really skillful and fast. Now its basically whiff punish garbage and weapon arts
500+ hours in souls pvp
It was the first of the souls games, and even when it's not perfectly original on its own, most other souls games are derivative of it.
All that b***hing and whining people give DS3 about it's lack of originality and bringing back NPCs and locations from DS1? DS1 is already guilty of that by being a multiplat demon's souls in effect.
But originality or lack thereof isn't the main thing. Demon's souls has impeccable atmosphere. A ghostly, ethereal feel to the game that persists throughout all levels to some degree. There's a great tension that the others souls games couldn't capture. It's a lot more rough and unpolished, but like a hand-drawn circle vs a computer generated perfect circle, the imperfections are a part of its identity.
Dark Souls 1 is the same game but slightly better in every way.
The appeal of Demon's Souls to a typical Ganker poster is just a simple case of fewer people having played it due to PS3 emulation requiring a relatively beefy PC.
>My subjective opinion is fact.
It's pretty good, but DaS is just too big of a jump.
Any toaster at this point can do DeS at 30fps.
most soulful entry of the franchise. Demon’s Souls has PEAK atmosphere.
Dark Souls 1 sucked and is mogged by Demon's Souls and Bloodborne
>Was it always considered better than Dark Souls here or is it a recent trend?
people have always debated if it was better than das1 or not here since dark souls came out. makes sense. i still think they're both the best souls games. but i *slightly* prefer demon's souls for its differences over das1 but they're really minor things. ultimately it's a neck and neck competition for me.
It's the weakest souls game but has a lot of nostalgiahomosexuals sucking it off.
There's also a bunch of discorn troons posing as "the OG From fans" shitting on DS3, BB, Sekiro, ER and even AC6 by calling those games easymode/shallow/rollspam even though DeS is the easiest game by far with the fastest roll recovery of any of these titles.
The remake came out and stirred up more discussion. It just pisses me off because it was a perfect canidate for a remake in terms of cut content, and refining some rougher spots like world tendancy. Instead it's outsourced and just looks visually different. Totally worth it.
It's really a shame, especially because a remake with some rebalancing of hyperarmor, weapons, magic and restored/added cut content would have made for a great experience.
The remake was a huge blunder because it kept too many of the objectively broken things like being able to stunlock 90% of enemies with a dagger, while most slow mid to huge size weapons had no hyperamor and got you stunlocked instead, also shit like instant backstabs killed online interactions in 2 months.
That plus easymode magic and almost no enemies that are resistant to it.
The remake really should've used DS3 as a base for mechanics because that game is most similar in speed and in terms of hyperamor system with poise being just a buff to the existant hyperamor frames.
Also a 6th archestone based on notes From FROM wouldn't have been that hard.
As it stands, the remake we got was more of an overdone port on a new engine with new graphics but almost nothing improved.
The biggest blunder was that DeS is a game who's story is meant to be told visually and environmentally. Bluepoint went and obliterated the visuals entirely without an ounce of understanding of the source material.
Only a few changes were utter trash and I could live with them of the gameplay was improved, sadly it wasn't.
A complete waste of time and effort for the sake of "staying true to the gameplay of the OG"
And they didn't even do that, they changed a bunch of fundamental things like rolling in any direction while locked on, something that is OP vs the slow enemies with bad turning ratea. At least playing unlocked to abuse them in OG took constant camera management.
Fromsoftware should have handled the remake, but they are probably too big and busy to invest in exclusives.
I wouldn't put it past Sony to try to capitalize on Bloodborne for PS6 launch and pull another demake blunder
Dark Souls is better, though Demon's Souls is still very good.
What they did to Latria was fricking criminal
>What they did to Latria was fricking criminal
This, holy shit.
DeS has always been appreciated here even after Dark Souls came out. It's just a damn good game and while DaS did improve it somewhat, not everything did carry over so the game still has a special feeling
>Was it always considered better than Dark Souls here
yes
>or is it a recent trend?
no you newbie moron
Demon's Souls is an extremely well-designed game that encourages careful observation and experimentation with your gear, spells, miracles, etc. This is all in regard to the original game. The OST was varied and memorable, and it had a neat mix of early medieval Europe with an almost dream-like, eerie magic that made the Scourge feel like a truly major event. Also, Demon's Souls was basically the first actual game the PS3 ever got, saving the console in that regard.
It was a different time, back before Dark Souls was ever announced; and the PC release of DaS changed everything.
One thing I really liked about Demons that didn't carry over into Dark was how ethereal it felt. The game was like this fever dream you were experiencing, especially in Shrine of Storms. I don't know what it was about it either. Maybe the lighting?
ah man, the scraping spear
i truly love DeS pvp
nobody gave a frick about balance and each invasion was a 5 minute long clusterfrick
Dark Souls 1 is my favorite Souls, but Demon's Souls is my second favorite, and my favorite to replay because it's not too long.
that's the general feeling for anyone who isn't a secondary
It was literally the reason I bought a PS3.
You just don't understand, it was a different time and it was a revolutionary game.
Why do Desgays claim only Demon's souls incentivizes the use of damage type weakness when you can three shot with a basic mace Darkroot Garden golems?
Damage types mattered way less in Dark Souls 1, and two-handing against guards did as well, maybe even in general.
2handing always mattered, otherwise you bounce off shields with every weapons but maces and clubs
In DS2 and DS3 it matters even more because on Ultra weapons, you can't be parried if you 2H unless you do a rolling attack.
And damage types can easily add 50% extra damage plus effects like knocking down enemies like skeletons on every hit if you use a big hammer.
DeS had extremely moronic shit like having your bare fist count as a blunt attack and doing x10 more damage than a sword to skeletons, being actually better than a club DPS wise because the swings are faster and since enemies don't have poise you can just stunlock them in a 1v1.
In Demon's Souls, 2H attacks did more stamina damage and tore through more of the stability of shields when compared to DS 1's 2H attacks. The 2H factor was nerfed quite a bit for DS 1, and DS 2 and 3 handled it differently. The bare hands punches doing blunt damage in DeS made sense, and that was a creative way to include a panic option against certain foes while also making a bare hands run not a "2 damage per hit" hell.
Because its the only game that tells the player
>HEY CHUCKLE FRICK, USE THIS TO MAKE THIS AREA YOUR b***h
With a dev message
People are slow and tend to only follow themost obvious of tells and instructions.
Demon's through Dark Souls 2 is when this series actually had level design.
t. Shart Souls 2 Black person
The world map may be moronic but at least it requires thought to navigate around the enemy hazards instead of just being a big flat open area.
You just had to be there man. Seriously though, kids are never gonna get it. It’s fine. If you weren’t there at the time then you won’t appreciate it. It is what it is.
I played Demon's Souls within a month after release. One of my roommates bought it because it was the only decent looking game he wanted to play for the PS3 he had just bought in order to watch blu-ray discs.
So one day I popped the game in, made a character, and fricked around for a bit. Game did not compel me in the slightest and I never returned to it. Fast forward about three years and all of a sudden that game that I didn't care about is now considered a cult classic.
That's how it goes.
>dark souls 2
>level design
lol. lmao.
>Demon's Souls
>level design
lol
LMAO
ROFL even
Looks kino
One of the best levels in the game. Why do you think they do a dragon bridge in every souls game?
Quite possibly THE best boss run in the series
>Cool armor sets
>Armor sucks
Does Demon's Souls support 4:3 mode?
No.
It will letterbox if the PS3 is set to 480i or 480p.
RPCS3 supports 21:9 mode with Demon's Souls, so it may be possible to force 4:3 with the usual caveats.
it was cool seeing parts of earlier/later worlds in demon's souls sections of worlds, like parts of boletaria palace and tower of latria especially
It's a hipster game where people just make shit up about what's good. Like "atmosphere" lmao doesn't mean anything. Game sucks.
oldgay here that played this game in 2010 and every souls game since (except sekiro, haven't gotten around to it yet). this is all just another classic case of Ganker contrarianism. demon's souls is super rough with a bunch of shitty balancing issues with items and weapons, bunch of shitty levels, moronicly implement systems like world and character tendency and soul and human form mechanics and has the worst lineup of bosses out of all the souls games. i honestly like demon's souls all things considered but rabidly defending it while shitting all over dark souls is fricking moronic and youre just a homosexual hipster incapable of liking dark souls because its more popular. grow up.
but i liked demon's souls more and i played dark souls first
DeS deserves a lot of respect for being the first and getting the ball rolling, but part of that respect is not to lie and oversell it as "the OG souls game before FROM went casual".
This just makes ppl who play it after DS1/2/3/BB see it for the mess that is it and shitting on it.
of course, i agree with all of that. i think the fact that they got so much right on their very first crack at it is commendable and respectable, but to just ignore issues with the game and scream "IT HAS SOUL" every time you praise the game, is just dishonest and gay. as i said, i personally like demon's souls a lot and would love a sequel now that fromsoft has become more experienced with their formula. like, I would love for them to revisit concepts like linear levels and world tendency and shit but just implemented much much better.
You type like a gay and your opinions are shit.
don’t play the demake
don’t touch the demake
don’t acknowledge the demake
Demon's Souls alone saved gaming from slowly turning into gameplay devoid cinematic garbage. Dark Souls was just Demon's Souls DLC.
I definitely prefer Demon's Souls aesthetic a bit more. It has this "gilded age lost" feel, like just a little while before everything might have been pretty nice, but very recently became a slimy miserable shit hole. Dark Souls has an "everything's fricked and this great land has just fallen apart due to centuries of neglect". I also really like the brass, organ, and drum heavy score of Demon's a lot more than the more balanced orchestral stuff in the Dark series.
In Demon's it feels like you're staving off a sudden insurmountable primordial disaster, and Dark is more combatting the entropy of a world ruled by god like beings that are just hanging out waiting for the world to die in a few more centuries.
Realistically, there is no way a bare hand is blunt.
It's literally a soft sack of 50% water.
Maybe it doing x2 more damage than a basic +0 sword as a joke, but it doing x10 damage and 2 shotting Shrine of Storms skellys in 2 backstanbs is ridiculous and makes maces pointless.
Insane how well DeS runs on the Deck
>Yes I would like a SMALLER screen please.
portablegays will never make sense to me.
same. the only time i could see a portable gaming device be remotely useful would be while on a 7 hour flight or some shit. other than that, what is the purpose?
I've played with a small screen my whole life, my first computer was a Toshiba netbook hand-me-down from my mother and the maximum resolution on it was 1024 x 768, my first handheld was a PSP, my first real console was a N64 on a crt, my next console after that was my PS3 on a Sony Tonitron, I played MGSV on it. When I was finally able to afford a monitor I somehow chose the smallest one, the max it could do was 1080i.
I don't know why but it's my element. I've bought bigger screens since then, but I feel innately more comfortable with a Wii U at my bedside and ever since that died the Deck's been admirably taking over the job without any hitches.
Dark Souls had the interconnected world which made the first half great, but Demons' Souls had better individual areas, and already did that "style" of gameplay. The only people who say DaS is better are PTD secondaries who either played DaS first, or just never played DeS.
It makes people feel special, gives them a felling of belonging to a exclusive group.
You don't need a PS3 to play DeS anymore, in fact, it's better emulated now.
Actually had a SOUL and atmosphere instead of generic rollslop and orchestrafart music to blare over all the boss fights that sound the same
I've always considered it better and I've only gotten more bitter about it over the years with Dark Souls gays harshly criticizing any potential faults of Demon's Souls and how it's not like Dark Souls while being very generous with or ignoring Dark Souls own faults. The one thing I miss the most about Demon's Souls is the invasions no other game has done it right and by Dark Souls 2 they started hindering the invader and that progressed into what Elden Ring is now.