What's the hardest NES game? I'd go with Zelda 2

What's the hardest NES game?

I'd go with Zelda 2

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    not even close

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Battletoads or Makaimura. Zelda 2 is alright once you git gud just like every other 'Nintendo hard' game. The ones I mentioned are just bullshit, they are unfair games, it's impossible to git gud at them and consistently win after your first playthrough or two. For example, I can beat Ninja Gaiden in less than an hour right now even though I haven't played it in a while

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Those are hard games but Championship Lode Runner is definitely the hardest game in the entire library, if you exclude Famicom only games then it would be no ABBA Ikari Warriors

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You mean THE hardest game? Now I want to try it, never played Lode Runner.
        >early arcadey FC game by Hudston
        >the longplay is over 2 fricking hours
        >longplays are usually 0 mistake runs
        >anon says it's the hardest famicom game
        Oh my fricking god... I'll pass

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Arino played it on Game Center CX and got stuck on the first level.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Arino is admittedly very bad at video games, he got multiple game overs in Green Hill Zone in Sonic 1

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's by Broderbund, Hudson just handled the Famicom port.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's no contest the hardest game in the system,
          people saying anything else are just unaware of its existence, check the archive if you want to know more
          every other answer is just wrong, although

          Probably that one piano lesson game since you actually need to be pretty good at playing the piano to beat it.

          is a sleeper pick that often goes unnoticed

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the 3rd world has its advantages
            I wonder where that anon is from. I'm a 3rd worlder too. I still play Famicom versions of everything because it's more nostalgic. Well, unless it's an RPG

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Europeans in general often had a couple multicarts because you could buy them in common vacation countries.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yep, when I got a Game Boy Pocket on a family trip to Tenerife, I also got a multicart for it. It claimed to be 32 games in 1, but it was more like, 12 or even 8, and the games were just listed again with different titles. Apparently some multicarts actually feature modifiers or cheats for the game when you select the alternate titles, but as far as I could tell, this wasn't the case with mine or my brother's, and it was the exact same game.

                I can't seem to find any pictures online of the one I had, and I still have that thing lying around somewhere, so I guess I should dig it out and take a picture of it just for reference's sake. I don't think these things have much value, but there's some niche collectors who collect these bootleg Game Boy carts because they're fun and usually very cheap, some of the more unusual ones don't even have a menu interface, instead they have pic related, a little button on the cartridge body which you press, rebooting the Game Boy and loading the next game in line.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't even that upset that the 32 in 1 cart I had wasn't a full 32 different games, because it had a lot of them still. Tetris and Dr. Mario alone were well worth it, but there was also Flipull, Serpent (labeled as Snake, its game over screen was really sad to me), as well as Battle City, which I learn many years later to be a Famicom game which was never officially ported to Game Boy or to the western world, which I guess made it a little bit special. Fun game, too.

                >with Touhou energy
                what does that even mean?

                Bullet hell, I guess?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Apparently some multicarts actually feature modifiers or cheats for the game when you select the alternate titles, but as far as I could tell, this wasn't the case with mine or my brother's, and it was the exact same game.
                Yeah, some do. I had a 15-in-1 cart that had 13 different games, two of which were Double Dragon 2 and Super Mario Land, then the final two were "Double Dragon 1" (Double Dragon 2 except you start on the final level) and "Mario Girl Land" (Super Mario Land except you start on 3-1).

                It wasn't the norm, but it happened occasionally.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Actually managed to find a picture of it.
                "Boy Soccer Team" was Captain Tsubasa VS, the rest should be fairly obvious.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry if this gets a bit away from OP's topic, but I was sent on a nostalgia spiral on the subject of those Game Boy multicarts. Let's see, going through my memory, I think me and my brother had these games on ours, some shared, some not:
                >Tetris
                >Dr. Mario
                >Battle City (port of Famicom-only game)
                >Snake (Serpent, ergo Snake but with some added gameplay depth compared to the classic ones, has very awkward controls though)
                >Flipull
                >Tom & Jerry (based on that not very good movie, I liked the cartoons way more)
                >Super Mario Land
                >"Super Mario 4" (actually a reskinned Crayon Shin-Shan game)
                >Hercules (based on the Disney movie/cartoon, was kind of awkward and difficult to play, didn't enjoy it much)
                >Alleyway (a good Breakout clone)
                >Othello
                >Bomb Jack
                >Hugo (one of those Crazy Castle games, with that European cartoon troll I never quite liked)
                >Motocross Maniacs
                It ranged mostly from decent to very good, so combined with the number of titles, the value was through the roof, thank God for piracy! Tetris even worked with the link cable.

                I saw mention of an Atari 2600 multi-game cartridge which actually WAS 128 in 1, but it was one of those button cartridges, ergo if you wanted to play the 128th game on the cartridge, it means you had to press that button to reboot and cycle through each game in order to get to the end, 127 times.
                I'm glad that multicarts with a menu interface are more common, I'm not sure I would have played mine as much if I had to do that manual cycling shit.

                >Apparently some multicarts actually feature modifiers or cheats for the game when you select the alternate titles, but as far as I could tell, this wasn't the case with mine or my brother's, and it was the exact same game.
                Yeah, some do. I had a 15-in-1 cart that had 13 different games, two of which were Double Dragon 2 and Super Mario Land, then the final two were "Double Dragon 1" (Double Dragon 2 except you start on the final level) and "Mario Girl Land" (Super Mario Land except you start on 3-1).

                It wasn't the norm, but it happened occasionally.

                I saw some recollections others mention where this stuff was really inconsistent. Like a cartridge could do that thing where it has a bunch of repeats, and MOST of them are the same as the last time, but then one or two is modified like that to start you on a later level, without any of the other ones doing stuff like that.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I know there's this NES multicart that has like 20 different variants of Contra with all kinds of weird mods.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's no contest the hardest game in the system,
        people saying anything else are just unaware of its existence, check the archive if you want to know more
        every other answer is just wrong, although [...] is a sleeper pick that often goes unnoticed

        It looks like a puzzle game, which is kind of cheating if you want to name hardest game. The thread was moreso looking for hard gameplay wise. Any puzzle can be inpossibly difficult if one wants to make it so.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          what did he mean by this

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I meant strict puzzle games are not really in the same category as video games since it's pretty much 0 mechanics and all 'thinking'. It's different than having to fight a boss or dodge a million enemies.

            >actually answering the OP's question is autistic

            I guess I should've titled it 'what's the hardest but fair game'. Having to beat a long game with 3 lives isn't fair.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >It's different than having to fight a boss or dodge a million enemies.
              in the end it's all trial and error

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          While it's not an NES exclusive, nor is it likely the hardest of all, The Immortal deserves mention. Unless you're using a guide, you will die A LOT. The intentionally obscure puzzles are built around this, hence the title. As noted here though, puzzle games can be considered a different type of difficulty. Pic related is actually from the Genesis version, but the games are similar aside from graphics and sound quality.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I must have played this on/off for fifteen years before I finally beat it. Satisfying ending.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Fun game though

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Battletoads is unfair and bullshit but it definitely possible to git gud and win consistenly at them.
      Maybe not 10 times in a row but still.

      Makaimura is unfairly hard too yes, but at least you can get unlimited continues.

      My bet placed on Adventure Island 1 without a bee. Bee is a cheat, but it's sort of legal cheat, you may or may not get it depending on your goals.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Continues are not cheat, even hidden. They were how those games were intended to be played.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          If they were intended then the devs would have explicitly included them. The fact is you have to find a hidden item to enable them which makes them a hidden cheat.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >If they were intended then the devs would have explicitly included them. The fact is you have to find a hidden item to enable them which makes them a hidden cheat.
            The point was to sell strategy guides and Famitsu copies. Do you think those moronic Famicom games like Atlantis no Nazo were intended to be beat legit? Kids had to pay to see the end, or hope a classmate knew every secrets instead. Continue codes and secrets were the same.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >The point was to sell strategy guides and Famitsu copies
              >names a game that came out before Famitsu even launched its first issue

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >The point was to sell strategy guides and Famitsu copies
            >names a game that came out before Famitsu even launched its first issue

            Puristards, ladies and gentleman.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Is it "purist" to state a literal fact? There is no evidence whatsoever that cryptic shit in games or limited continues were part of some crazy schizo conspiracy plot to make deals with Famitsu or whatever. Continue codes were left in because they were meant for debugging, and there was no real incentive to take that code out (because the odds of kids figuring out the code by themselves are very low). That's literally it.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              if you didn't travel back in time to 1986 and personally be gangbanged by the developers, can you honestly say you actually beat adventure island?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Continues are not cheat, even hidden. They were how those games were intended to be played.

            You have to put yourself in the mindset of the time.

            In order to continue in arcade games you had to pay up. Then suddenly, console games are getting arcade ports at home (or games designed like other arcade games like Adventure Island) and devs wondered how you can make that fair.

            For a while games tended to have hidden continue mechanics, AI isn't the only one, Rad Racer is another example from the same time period. After a while that disappeared in favour of non hidden continues, but very limited in numbers, before eventually infinite continues became a norm. These changes happened with mentalities in game design straying further away from arcade and closer to console.

            Continues in AI and Rad Racer being hidden is simply because mentalities just did not think it was normal to have free infinite continues just yet, especially in regards to games that follow gameplay standards of arcade games

            so yeah you can call that a cheat if you want, just don't forget the mindset of the time period when you think that. Had the same game been made a few years later, continues wouldn't be hidden, and that's exactly what happened with AI2 and 3 (the bee only helps to keep your items upon continuing)

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              How far do you want to extend this? Did I now beat SMB savescumming because modern games are so dumbed down that, were it made today, I would get infinite lives and auto-saves every second?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >or games designed like other arcade games like Adventure Island
              Adventure Island is an arcade port you moron.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >My bet placed on Adventure Island 1 without a bee. Bee is a cheat, but it's sort of legal cheat
        No, not really. The American manual tells you how to activate continues, though without telling you the exact location of the bee, just that it's somewhere on the first level.
        The Japanese manual doesn't mention a continue function at all.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          So Japanese Famicom Adventure Island is the hardest. Case closed.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The game itself is identical though. Only the manual is different.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              In the US version it isn't cheating to use the bee, in the Famicom version it is.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >using information in the manual is not cheating categorically
                >be japanese
                >find the bee on your own
                >frick me guess I cheated then.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Well yeah. Most people found the warp zones in Super Mario Bros on their own too, is it not cheating to warp straight to world 4 and then to world 8?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Blaster Master lets you strafe by holding B
                >not mentioned anywhere in the US manual
                >therefore, it's cheating
                See pic related? That's you, you fricking clown.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                clowns are actually funny though, unlike that staid rube

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Punch Out
    Ninja Gaiden 3
    Adventure Island
    Castlevania III
    SMB2J

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Is Ninja Gaiden 3 even vaguely beatable without save scumming

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, if your ROM is named Ninja Ryukenden 3. Same with CV3, if its Akumajou Densetsu then you're good

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I should try Ninja Gaiden 3 again now that I know the Jap version doesn't have limited continues. I really liked the first two when I played them on my Wii back in 2007 but was immediately filtered by limited continues on the third.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's not the only change, the difficulty was greatly reduced to the point the game is a joke. It's like the easy mode of the real game.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Or it's the actual difficulty and the US game is the quarter munching anti-rental version.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If thinking that makes you feel better about having to play the easy mode of a game designed for 10 years old

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. You end up memorizing the levels pretty quick if you are dedicated. I have beaten NG1, 2, and 3 and the sequels were definitely smooth sailing after beating 1.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not bad but battlefrogs steps on these

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Probably that one piano lesson game since you actually need to be pretty good at playing the piano to beat it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I completely forgot about that one existing. I guess it'd probably be up there since it requires a completely separate skillset from normal videogames. I'm assuming also that it's a sign of how authentic and legit it is as a teaching tool when to beat it as a videogame, you need to have become a pianist like it intends you to.

      It's no contest the hardest game in the system,
      people saying anything else are just unaware of its existence, check the archive if you want to know more
      every other answer is just wrong, although [...] is a sleeper pick that often goes unnoticed

      Hah, almost like Extreme Rise Of The Triad, except it's probably a lot more fair. Pretty sick that they put together a special version of the game to be a serious challenge run for the most elite of fans, game devs don't do that today, and they honestly didn't do it very much back in those days either. I respect it.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Battletoads for sure

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Uh, one of the Ninja Gaiden games, or Battletoads. Actually, Holy Diver was supposed to be pretty merciless, if memory serves right.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Mission: Impossible has to be up there

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Zelda 1

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Kid Icarus

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    lolno
    Castlevania 3 is way harder

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Castlevania 3 is not hard. Sypha can clear the whole screen of enemies with one use of her lightning spell and bosses die with two lightning spells per phase and you find more than enough hearts to spam it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I can complete 7 and 9 levels with lightning. But I need savestate with it at start of level. If you die and lose it, its over.For its random drop you need eternal loads.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't even know where you get that person. I can't make it to a single party member in Castlevania 3. It's THAT hard.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Recca

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Also good answer. That shit hard

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think castlevania 3, at least out of the ones my friends played. I had friends who beat battletoads and almost beat ninja gaiden, I was never that good. But ive beat zelda ii, it not hard, just tedious.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Beat battletoads
      Almost beat ninja gaiden

      Pick one

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Zelda 2 isn’t thaaaaaat hard (I’ve never finished it)
    There is a big difficulty spike when you hit Death Mountain, and another on the road to the Final Palace. This filters many.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    holy divuuhhhhhh
    you won't survivuhhhhh
    you can't beat the boss without glitching the game att
    level fiveuhhhhhh

    seriously though this game makes ghosts and goblins look like super mario bros

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Did James actually beat this legit? He's a pretty shit gamer from all I've seen. This seems like something that should have been way out of his league

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He's not that shit a gamer. I mean, he beat Contra all on his own before he even started playing AVGN, he beat Ninja Gaiden, and he beat Street Fighter 2010.

        But it's entirely possible for this one he asked Mike to come in and do it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He's not that shit a gamer. I mean, he beat Contra all on his own before he even started playing AVGN, he beat Ninja Gaiden, and he beat Street Fighter 2010.

        But it's entirely possible for this one he asked Mike to come in and do it.

        Almost all video game footage in older AVGN videos is Mike playing.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That is not true. Hell, he had an entire episode detailing how he makes an episode, and said if Mike was ever there, he was only taking notes while he was the one playing.

          He also posted photos on his old Cinemassacre website back in the day as proof of him beating the games.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the one that gives you epilepsy?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yup

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    adventure island was fricking harrowing. probably not *the* hardest game but it's for sure the hardest game i've ever beat.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      if you beat it without the hudson bee then that's fricking insane

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What are some games where input lag matters? And I mean REALLY matters, now like when morons complain about 'muh mega man legacy collection input lag literally impossible' and all that other stuff that's not even noticeable when you are not a scrub. I know that CRT+real hardware make Battletoads and Punch Out easier. So basically I think the games that require this are the hardest

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Battletoads.

    Battletoads is not hard in the same way Ninja Gaiden, Zelda, or Castlevania are hard. No matter what you say about those games, their mechanics can be mastered. Even if it's really damned unlikely, it is still POSSIBLE to make it through even the most difficult sections on your first try, if your skills with the mechanics are honed. Battletoads is not like that. It is literally won through trial and error. Throughout the entire game, there is not one fricking action taken that a reasonable person would expect any player to make on a whim. Beating the game requires you to die multiple times. Period.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The main difficulty with battle toads is how different each stage is from each other, it’s a complete variety game and never lets you get into a rhythm in playing it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's only half the issue. The other half is you are constantly being blindsided by hazards you could not possibly have anticipated without trial and error. I'm not exaggerating here. Absolutely NOBODY is going to get through Volkmire's Inferno without dying AT LEAST 3 times, their first run. Nobody is going to know how to dodge those bubble-blowing things in the final stage before they instantly kill you. Nobody is going to know which direction those wheels you have to outrun in Terra Tubes will turn at the end. Nobody is going to anticipate the multiple times in Arctic Caverns where the game decides to drop you into a pit of spikes.

        If ANYONE considers this good game design, or "subversive", or "innovative", they're probably a legitimate sociopath.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Limited continues were the biggest issues really with the game design there. For all the absolute bullshit that game throws at you, you should be able to restart from the current level as often as you wish. It would have have still been a very difficult game but way more manageable

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Really?
          I think most of the game is reactionary rather than memorisation

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            From someone who can beat it, let me assure you, you are out of your fricking mind. It is pure memorization

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the really badly designed games were the hardest, like pic related

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Silver Surfer isn't even that badly designed. It's a good shooter with Touhou energy. It's not unfair, it's just brutal. That said, a turbo controller is kinda mandatory to get long-term enjoyment out of it. And maybe the password that gives you infinite continues too.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do you want a cheat code that makes you immune from damage as well?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm sorry you enjoy carpal tunnel and outdated arcade crap that has no place in a console game.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Silver Surfer isn't even that badly designed.

        nah the level design is genuinely horrific in places, specifically on the top down levels its impossible to tell if the terrain will one hit kill you or if you'll fly over it until you bump into it and die, some of the projectiles have identical color to the terrain making it extremely difficult to see, and the basic design of the board make it night impossible to navigate the diagonal tunnel parts due to his long it is and how narrow the tunnels are(never mind trying to kill enemies in them that you cant hit without being right in front of). The horizontal levels aren't AS bad but the way the terrain constricts you combined with how high your shots come compared to how tall your sprite is make for some seriously unforgiving bullshit

        Do you want a cheat code that makes you immune from damage as well?

        do you not like having flesh on your thumb tip? Because a game like Silver Surfer will rub it right the frick off without a turbo button

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >its impossible to tell if the terrain will one hit kill you or if you'll fly over it until you bump into it and die
          So shoot it. If your shots stop, you can't touch it. If they pass through, it's safe. This is blatantly obvious.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >do you not like having flesh on your thumb tip? Because a game like Silver Surfer will rub it right the frick off without a turbo button
          I beat Kung Fu last summer and it almost peeled the skin from my thumb. And that's just a silly 15 minute long NROM game.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >with Touhou energy
        what does that even mean?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Once you have a turbo controller the big issue is not crashing into things and getting fricked by the player's giant hitbox.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    idk probably one of those random action 52 games that are literally impossible to beat

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Arkanoid always seemed really tough.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It was a game that was designed to eat quarters. Of course it was "tough".

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      just started playing things about a month ago and the furthest i've made it is round 7. seems crazy i've only seen 1/6 of the game

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I never made it past round 15

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The sheer autism in this thread
    >OP clearly looking for discussion about the hardest games other people remember playing
    >lists a popular game people actually give a shit about
    >expecting replies like "I gotta go with Contra haha that game is hard"
    >Anons proceed to debate over what the literal, actual hardest NES game is

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >actually answering the OP's question is autistic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Still probably the best thread on the board right now

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wanna know why you can't download the hacked modded roms and complete rom files

    That's annoying. Or is there a place that you can?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      *as complete .rom files*

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've beaten castlevania III, ninja gaiden 1 and 2, zelda 2, I cannot beat contra or super c. an ulimited continue game has to practically be kazio tier to overcome the average limited continue game.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Bait. Anyway obviously Battletoads. Ghosts 'n' Goblins comes close.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How hard is it to beat original Castlevania? I want to beat it for years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Easier than SMB1 warpless (if you don't use the continue code that is)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yeah i'd vouch for the guy sayin it's easier than mario 1, but then again it depends on what kinda games you're good at
      there's hard stuff in it sure, but the game is slow and methodical, and the physics are pretty basic, so when ya know the levels and boss patterns, it's like doin quick math in your head, you'll frick up sometimes sure but most arithmetics can be done in rapid succession

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not hard at all. All the difficulty of the game is in learning how and when to use the right subweapons.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >the right subweapons
        Which is the Holy Water for all bosses but the first.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Gross, if your not an axe fiend then don’t talk to me

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    1943 and adventure island I gave up on before I could beat them. The last level of kung fu heroes was tough as well

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know if it's the hardest, but this piece of shit is living proof that the nintendo seal of quality means absolutely frick all.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      try the JP version (Mad City)

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Mad City is so easy it's just boring, Bayou Billy is much more fun.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Battlefrogs mogs that shit OP

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Due to extensive research done by the University of Pittsburgh, Battletoads has been confirmed as the hardest NES game known to man. The research is as follows. Pocket-protected scientists built a wall of iron and crashed a Battletoads cart into it at 400 miles per hour, and the cart was unharmed. They then built a wall out of Battletoads and crashed a car made of iron moving at 400 miles an hour into the wall, and the wall came out fine. They then crashed a diamond Battletoads made of 400 miles per hour into a wall, and there were no survivors. They crashed 400 miles per hour into a diamond traveling at Battletoads. Western New York was powerless for hours. They rammed a wall of Battletoads into a 400 mile per hour made of diamond, and the resulting explosion shifted the earth's orbit 400 million miles away from the sun, saving the earth from a meteor the size of a small Washington suburb that was hurtling towards mid-western Prussia at 400 billion miles per hour. They shot a Battletoads made of iron at a car moving at 400 walls per hour, and as a result caused two wayward airplanes to lose track of their bearings, and make a fatal crash with two buildings in downtown New York. They spun 400 miles at Battletoads into iron per wall. The results were inconclusive. Finally, they placed 400 Battletoads per hour in front of a car made of wall traveling at miles per iron, and the result proved without a doubt that Battletoads were the hardest NES game of all time, if not just the hardest NES game known the man.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That brings back memories, thank you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Takeshis challenge if you try to beat it the legit way

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What's "the legit way" and why is that so hard? I've beaten it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      doesn't that game require you to wait on a screen and do nothing for like 5 hours?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        One hour, and it's one of two possible solutions to that puzzle, so even that is not required.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Legacy of the Wizard.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Deadly Towers…

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to give this a serious go. If I could finish Hydlide, I can finish this.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Hydlide isn't hard though.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You found the fairies on your own? The israeliteels?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            There is no way anyone finds the third fairy in the computer version on their own. The NES version on the other hand changed the method to get it to something simple.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              People that call the "NES version" Hydlide instead of Hydlide Special have in general never touched the original Hydlide.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to give this a serious go. If I could finish Hydlide, I can finish this.

      It's not a hard game at all, you just gotta be willing to draw maps when you get in the dungeons. Do that and it shouldn't give you much trouble

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Deadly Towers gets way too much shit because your character starts underpowered. Like

      [...]
      It's not a hard game at all, you just gotta be willing to draw maps when you get in the dungeons. Do that and it shouldn't give you much trouble

      says if you do maps in the dungeons it's not that bad, just make sure you find the hidden areas in the towers with the good power ups. The game is actually pretty fun.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Some games with a good hard are:
    >Castlevania 3
    >Ninja Gaiden
    >Vice: Project Doom
    If you want ones with BS difficulty:
    >Miltons Secret Castle
    >Sword master 2
    >The Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Solomon's Key without guides or savestates. Good fricking luck.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I've done it. It's hard, but really rewarding.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The Mexican Runner took slightly under 6 hours to beat this one. It's certainly no cakewalk.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say ducktales. WHAT AN EPIC CHALLEMGE!

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Get good at juggling birds in the wookie hole, and Battletoads gets easier.

    This game though...the constant bombardment.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Either Battletoads, Championshiop Lode Runner, or Abadox maybe also Burai Fighter

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Abadox maybe also Burai Fighter
      Again, no big deal with a turbo controller.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe stop cheating with turbo.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You can keep make whatever excuse you want. It's still cheating.

          Nah, it's not cheating.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Abadox no big deal without turbo. Battlefrogs is the answer you are all looking for

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    adventure island by far

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Transformers: Comvoy no Nazo. If you can get past the first level then God bless.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    https://w.atwiki.jp/famicomall/pages/358.html

    From the "Beat all Famicom games" challenge where they cry how pitiless CLR is.

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Zelda 2 isn't even the hardest nes Zelda game

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ?
      How do you figure

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        In Zelda 2 you fight one or two tough enemies at a time. In Zelda 1 you're surrounded by a dozen enemies at a time. Puzzle wise they're equally obtuse, but then Zelda 2 has platforming sections full of bottomless pit cheap shots.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno, its hard to say. Zelda 1 is harder in the sense that it's more cryptic on what to do next while Zelda 2 is less so but harder combat wise.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Zelda 2 is not even in the top 30 of the NES, zoomzoom

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Might & Magic

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely can't understand how can someone beat Battletoads without save states

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Any of those 3 live/no continue famicom kusoge are harder than Zelda 2

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Any of those 3 live/no continue famicom kusoge
      Frick you Chubby Cherub.

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say Battletoads is the hardest because it puts up a variety of different challenges requiring precision and reaction speed. Every stage is different so you have to master multiple different modes to get through it. And if you say it's easy because you practiced and got good, well that's the fricking point. That's why it's a good game.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There's hard that you want to play and hard that you don't want to play and I feel like the last category should not be considered. I don't think anyone cares which adventure game has the most nonsensical unguessable puzzles or which no continue action game relays the most on luck.

    So as for the hardest action games it is always shmups in every generation. They have a level of reflex test that limits how much memorization can allow you to auto-win are very strict with how many times you can get hit and the genre just pushes it's own difficulty more often then say platformers.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      shmups can be cheesed with a turbo controller, so...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >shmups can be easy if you cheat

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I was fine with not developing carpal tunnel syndrome at the age of 12.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You can keep make whatever excuse you want. It's still cheating.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Past a certain point shmups all come with auto-fire making your point stupid. Even before than auto-fire still doesn't reduce the category as being the hardest. There are handful of platformers like gng and some beat em ups (all arcade versions) that can rival the lower and mid difficulty shmups. Auto fire might make them rise a few positions in the rank but it's not changing the overall point that shmups are simply the hardest action genre in every generation.

        So these threads are stupid because there is nothing to fricking debate. The answer for action games is always, always shmups. One word answer for the action games which is all anyone talks about. It might be interesting to talk about non-action games: puzzles, pnc adventure, turn based games, strategy games but they never want to do that.

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've beaten Zelda 2 and I suck ass at video games. Ninja Gaiden, Battletoads, and Castlevania make me tremble in fear.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      CV1 is a breeze if you can hang on to the holy water. CV3 is a fair challenge on Famicom.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I was goaded into not ever using holy water and am weak against the medusa heads

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          it's really not a bad idea when you're trying to learn the game initially, later on when you remember it all it does kinda trivialize things though. that said, if you're really deadset on it, cross helps against the medusa heads especially in double/tripleshot form, and is the second best subweapon period. it's also that way in castlevania iii when ya play that (play a translation of the jp rom your first few times, it's less stupidly designed generally).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Castlevania 1 is not that bad if you're decent at pattern recognition and/or don't give up at it. Ninja Gaiden is pretty easy aside from 6-2 and the last two bosses. Can't speak for Battletoads I need to spend more time with that one.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Good Ending route requires you to do some real precise timing moves to get the other treasures by the third stage.

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    yeah don't feel bad that you used GameFAQs to look up where all the hidden crap in LOZ is. these games were meant to be played by you obtaining a strategy guide.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The NES Zelda games are more fun as action games than adventure games anyways. They're better monster stabbing simulators than they are cave finding sims.

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Zooming is damaging to the brain.

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've "1cc'd" Ninja Gaiden, Contra, Super C, Castlevania 1 and 3, and every NES Mega Man game.

    I've never beaten Adventure Island. Hell I don't even know if I'm come close. I think I've gotten to world 4 maybe? I don't even know how many there are. For such a cute, colorful and simple game it sure is fricking brutal

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There are 8, I gave up on 8-2. Out of 8-4. Webm related.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I beat it with savestates years ago, never on original hardware though.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I beat it
        >with savestates

        does not compute

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Try re-reading the post, that might help.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What's so hard about it? Looks like a basic platformer.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Go ahead anon, give it a run and see how far you get. Report back

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        See

        There are 8, I gave up on 8-2. Out of 8-4. Webm related.

        And remember, you NEED to collect the food to keep the stamina bar up, or you die.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          well again, is just looks like a basic platformer with a bit of enemies to dodge. I was expecting worse.

          Go ahead anon, give it a run and see how far you get. Report back

          nah, looks boring

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You can't understand unless you play it. It might look easy if you think it controls like SMB3 or something, but no, the physics are fricked.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The game is on a timer, you need to pick up fruits or else you die. Fruits often appear at the last second and require such precise movement at full speed there is no way you can get them on your first playthrough (you can't backtrack).

            You can get weapons to kill enemies but most of them are hidden in eggs which only show up if you jump at the right spot. You don't have time to jump at every spot. Fruits are also hidden in eggs, some levels you literally can't complete unless you find several hidden eggs. Even if you do find the eggs, you may still accidentally make it bounce down a pit.

            You die, you lose your weapon, you may not find one for the entiterity of the level for all you know so you need to learn to dodge everything. Enemies and platforms are everywhere and require precise movement to avoid, alternating between a running jump at full speed and a small walk jump, etc

            The game loves to troll you with enemies that appear out of nowhere or platforms that fall down under your feet unexpectedly; so even if you have godlike reflexes, the constant trolling will kill you. I even found myself in a dead man walking scenario because I was playing too slow: a jump I didn't have enough momentum to make, but I couldn't backtrack for said momentum

            so the game is all about dying and dying and learning everything by heart while mastering the somewhat unique controls (this was long before controls in games were streamlined and standardized and every game plays the same), it will test your memory and your muscle memory and your patience. Oh and if you go too fast on a game over and fail to input the continue button combinatio you might as well throw the controller against a wall

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Look at how much shit is flying all over the screen

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Looks like a basic platformer

        That's your first mistake.
        I believe it was my first mistake too when I saw friend playing this game back in 90s

        Then I actually played it myself

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I can beat battlefrogs and let me assure you adventure island is fricking hard. I’m gonna sit down and beat it this next year or so. It ain’t gonna be battlefrogs but I’ve played it enough to know it’ll come close

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No.
    The hardest game is some licensed bullshit that is just stupidly unfair and no amount of practice will help you.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What's the most 'fair'+challenging NES games? I'd assume something with continues or a password system; maybe the later Megamans, the Castlevania trilogy and Contra?

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Elnark no Zaihou (Elnark's Treasure) It took over 10 years for someone to beat it

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Hardest game is Rogue 1979 Nes port

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Ice Level in Battletoads is hard.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It gets way harder than that. I'm amazed so many people got filtered by the Turbo Tunnel. Later levels like Terra Tubes and Rat Race are way harder. I've gotten as far as the final level before so I know I could beat this legit but have to redo the entire game every time is just frustrating.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Charlie Browning the bomb in Rat Race is brutal. The last level is probably the hardest.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It’s just cause if turbo is filtering you you’re gonna drop the game after realizing it ain’t getting any easier

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i can't believe the megaman clone featuring a e-girl hasn't been mentioned. something conquest iirc

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Krion Conquest

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah that's it. you get like 3 lives to beat the whole game. it's bullshit

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