What's the point of trying in this indie market meta
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What's the point of trying in this indie market meta
What's the point of trying in this indie market meta
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moron
there's no "trying", you do one of those for money and that's it
It's worth trying anyway
there isnt
gamers deserve nothing good, they only buy the same slop
Let's be real, they would buy them if there was any marketing behind them, the problem is that almost all of these games are completely unknown since they can't afford big showroom places and shiet.
>gooners deserve nothing good, they only fap to the same slop
This is how stupid you sound
yes, frick coombrains
people aren't going to stop having sexual desires no matter how much you complain about it. Even if you make up baby babble nonsense words to describe normal sexual behavior
>being obsessed with porn and consooming it daily, often multiple times per day is """'''normal"""""""
yep a typical coombrain, not even aware of its mental illness and derangement
>What's the point of trying in this indie market meta
I don't know. Factorio does none of that and it not only sold 3.5 mil copies, but started an entirely new fricking genre that is booming.
Manor Lords just got like 4 million wishlists and it does none of that.
Dusk, Signalis, Kerbal Space Program, Magnum Opus, Return of Obra Dinn, Outer Wilds, Ultrakill etc... also seem to be doing fine without any of that bullshit.
>Dusk
Horror lore
>Signalis
Hot anime girls
>Kerbal Space Program
Predates the meta by about 15 years
>Magnum Opus
Not very successful
>Return of Obra Dinn
Rare good game
>Outer Wilds
Roguelite
>Ultrakill
Boomer shooter meme
>Not very successful
frick you
Zach just went to the corner store to buy milk
you'll see, you'll all see
Wilds
>Roguelite
what
He is right. this game is roguelite slop. but instead of combat you get story bit by bit every time you die. trash game
>to progress you have to gain knowledge and become a bit less moronic IRL as your permanent upgrade
>anon hates the game for some reason
kek
A game with zero random elements is not "roguelite."
I wouldn't say zero
I have no idea why they made the probe direction random. But I'm happy that specific outcome was possible.
the story point is that they knew they could never find the eye in their lifetime, which is why the loop was created. the probe is like you, able to differ in every loop and so they launch the probe in a random direction until potentially it finds the eye by brute force.
Not a single human being bought Dusk for its lore.
i really really liked the industrial horror of the late game but i never looked into the lore and i only bought it because it was advertised as a spooky boomer shooter and it was halloween
>Ultrakill
>Boomer shooter meme
they literally promoted the game as a devil may cry/quake shit though
>quake
And quake isn't a boomer shooter?
Adding to the list of people pointing out how you got basically everything on this list wrong
>Dusk
>Horror lore
what a stupid thing to say. no one gives a shit about DUSK's nonexistant lore. DUSK started the wolfendoom revival. this shit, hedon and hrot and fida puti and boltgun, all exist because DUSK made it.
genuine mental illness, nobody bought your game because it fricking sucks, homosexual
>Outer Wilds
>Rougelite
>Kerbal Space Program
>not streamer bait
you couldve just said you were moronic.
Made me look
To be fair KSP2 has double the numbers
The fact you only got 2 replies which are shitposts tells you're the only one in the thread that isn't gellbent on shitposting.
yeah, but you actually got to be good
more indie devs are terrible
This does not fit the Ganker narrative please refrain from posting this it upsets the autists a lot and thats very mean of you
HOLY FRICKING SHIT WHY DO I HAVE TO WAIT A MINUTE TO POST I HAVENT EVEN POSTED ANYTHING IN SO MANY DAYS WTF IS WRONG WITH asiaticMOOT DOES HE ONLY WANT BOTS ON THIS PIECE OF FRICKING SHIT WEBSITE
Works on my phone :^)
You forgot "thinly veiled political commentary or propaganda"
>thinly veiled
in last few years 80% of indieslop is open libcuck propaganda
>80% of indieslop
frick you Black person, maybe in your demented troony brain
it's like 30% at most, and no one's eating it up, it's just moronic trannies
>no one's eating it up
you clearly do, subhuman
clearly not, Black person
total troon death
people don't actually play their shit, it only flies because they insert themselves into existing franchises, with some exceptions
you have no idea what you're talking about
>people don't actually play their shit
that's why you morons keep shilling every new indie slop overflowing with pozz
who is "you", homosexual, I'm not shilling "indie slop overflowing with pozz", that's what troons do, I'm talking about good games, which are the majority
I can count examples on one hand off the top of my head
selaco, troonleste, undertale, that mouse game, that racing game with troon cars, a hat in time, some others
there's like a dozen or two notable pozzed games, moron
mostly VNs and JRPGs because trannies and gays are moronic, like you
also, troonleste wasn't a troon game originally, the trannies unironically groomed the dev into trooning out on discord AFTER the release and he retconned and trooned the character out post-release
You fell for fake news. Matt was "nonbinary" long before Celeste's release.
gaslighting israelite
Gaslighting my ass. Ganker thought Celeste's story is an abortion analogue and other pozzed shit forever before the blogpost that put the game into its intended context.
Why should i care? Dev troons out = his game is troony shit now and is treated like the rest of the troonyshit, simple as. Nobody cares what it was or about any other irrelevant past tense.
What are you talking about dumbass? There hasn't been a good indie game in years that wasn't absolute barebones like Baltaro. Just make a good game.
You don't even need to make a good game even. Just make a promising concept and cash in and then never finish it like every other indie dev.
Astlibra Revision
Make a fun game with a unique approach. Doesn't have to be gods gift to the earth. Price it at 5$ and let it be enjoyed.
Anon the point is to make money with your game
just go learn the stockmarket if you wanna make money
Some of my favorite games of all time were made for free ($0).
Because they were made by autists with a) a passion, and b) real jobs
No it’s not it’s to make art, this is why your indie game will never succeed.
>Price it at 5$ and let it be enjoyed.
and it'll be the last game you ever make because you only got $200 in sales, but spent 7 years making it
>Make a fun game with a unique approach. Doesn't have to be gods gift to the earth. Price it at 5$ and let it be enjoyed.
Alright, done.
Please buy it, try it, and if you don't like it, feel free to refund it. If you do like it, please share it with your friends.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2858790/DEAD_MANS_HAND_Card_Roulette_Action/
GIVE US FREE REVIEW COPIES, Black person.
Looks fun, wishlisted.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2858790/DEAD_MANS_HAND_Card_Roulette_Action/
>Hey that looks pretty good!
>Multiplayer only fricking retro card game
Oh. I see now why are you shilling on Ganker.
I'm sorry anon but perhaps you should've thought of having an offline mode? It's a niche genre already, I dunno, seems like the most self-evident thing, ever.
>Verification not required.
kek
I think you are very strange for dumping your game's Steam page out in the open on Ganker like this.
You should have told all your friends to leave a review. Your game is literally invisible on the store until you get 10.
If you can't make a cool game in RPG Maker 2000 or 2003, you might as well quit now while you're ahead, because the japs are running circles around you while you copy paste pajeet shitcode in Unity and Godot.
https://files.catbox.moe/tn12b8.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/inhfsi.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/7ovnle.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/jpvscn.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/wagwcz.webm
Even though it was likely MV, the Dayshift at Freddy’s 3 and Five Nights at Frickboys Complete Collection are the most innovative rpgmaker games I’ve seen.
When you're running so many custom layers and plugins to achieve 99% of this shit, why even bother using RPGMaker as a base layer at all? What core functionality is even being used anymore?
RPG Maker 2003 doesn't have plugins like the newer programs, everything there is done with the program's core functionality. The only difference is that it's probably the modified version of RPG Maker 2003 that adds some extra variable operations that give you more versatility, more options with image manupulation, etc. That modded version is endorsed by the program's developers, by the way, they allow you to use it and you keep all the rights, such as publishing your games.
sauce on second game?
English download is available from this page:
https://viprpg23k.web.fc2.com/entry/01.html
Holy crap. What the frick.
Might as well post sauce for all of these. Aris bro
Info for the Pinboraian/Minigame collection one
LINK:
https://mega.nz/file/DVVniCaR#JyPlTo0-91c4zGi3zkaPHqdQ7FxW8YaHNkhM-V9nd7U
SAVE with all minigames unlocked:
https://files.catbox.moe/rd8irs.zip
Hey alright, and thanks!
>That Pole Position Knockoff
>That RTS
>The charming little DQM ripoff
>The Smash ripoff
And just think, all of those AGDG homosexuals who have spent years trying to get the base of their engine functional won't ever create anything as cool as these.
Aggy is full of autistic morons please be nice to them they think they will make it because some people shilled their game one time.
Those all look fricking terrible.
Let's see your game, anon-kun.
Do I need to be a chef to be able to call food good or bad, too?
Yes.
He's right. All derivative indie slop
If you need have made a good game to say games bad, then it's only fair to say the same for calling a game good. So let's see YOUR game anon.
None of those are cool.
SOVL OVERLOAD
S O V L
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>thinking it's the engine and not the individual using the engine
What game is the second one? I want more mystery dungeons
>FRICK YOU! MEGA b***h'S GODDAMMITALL TRASH-ASS FRICK SHIT GODDAMN b***h-ASS 6-HIT COMBO!
someone i know is making an horror game with meme/internet culture lore based around various horror tropes with multiple hot girls and also a catgirl
If you think there are a lot of good indie games out, then that's what will cause you to fail, you have bad taste and wont be able to make a game which tastes good, you wont fail due to competition.
I don't think you understood what OP was getting at
moron take. You aren't Kojima, it's very likely the market will brutally verify your shit taste in video games. If you want to succeed, make games for other people, not for yourself.
>your taste is shit if you dont want to appeal to the lowest common denominator
For indies sorta make sense but I don't get why AAA devs don't just do that shit, it's literally free money and advertising.
>design hot anime girl
>if appealing enough, hundreds of drawgays with 10k-100k followers will draw her
>their followers retweet/share the art of the artist, reaching even more people
That's how shitty fricking "games" like helltaker got so fricking big.
I feel like this meme is made by a twitterhomosexual.....
oh shut the frick up. indie devs make those games because they want to. where's my trauma center clone? I've been waiting 10 years. if I see one more fricking roguelite Im gonna snap.
OMG TRAUMA CENTERINO THE GAMERINO WHERE YOU DRAW SATANIC SYMBOLERINOS TO SAVE THE LIFERINOS OF moronERINOS? GAME OF THE YEARERINO
>christcuck mindbroken by a weeaboo surgery simulator
>OMG TRAUMA CENTERINO THE GAMERINO WHERE YOU DRAW SATANIC SYMBOLERINOS TO SAVE THE LIFERINOS OF moronERINOS? GAME OF THE YEARERINO
Yes, exactly.
imagine having such a strong opinion about such a seldom discussed, deep cut of a game
t. loved cult of the lamb too
>mindbroken by a israelite offshoot religion
hate to see it
>where's my trauma center clone?
the wii version is practically as good as it can get, why ruin something with a generic imitation?
you're right, we really should see EMT/triage med games especially with VR being a thing now
where the frick is trauma center: actual US edition (dealing with gunshot wounds and burns and lodged items in rectums etc.)
Good thing my game is none of the above. Here’s a link:
https://nrasko.itch.io/the-frydarian-tale
have a nice day scalie homosexual
You’re talking to someone who utterly detests furries and scalies because they made the idea of anthropomorphic animals weird.
then why does your main character scream babby's first fursona?
it more screams "babby's first 3d render" to me
Big true lol
I couldn't comprehend what I was looking at at first.
This nifty chart should explain how we got to where we are.
kino
Thanks.
Furries should be abnormal. Keep normalgays OUT
Love yourself, scalie CHAD.
But your game looks like shit, are you on the autism spectrum by chance?
the dude posts his fricking garbage unprompted any chance he gets what do you think?
Hey man, I just got a lot of free time on my hands.
Surprisingly, no. The doctors consider me neurotypical. I may be stupid, but I’m not so stupid that I have a medical disorder. Otherwise I would’ve dyed my hair some stupid color, chopped off my wiener, browse Reddit, and, ultimately, end up as another statistic.
Don't put others down just so you feel better about yourself, you may not be their special brand of moronic but you're still your own brand of moronic. Humble up brother
I’ll humble up once Universal Studios comes knocking at my door with the proposition of turning the Harry Potter land into a Joey Fygoon land.
I kneel, going to play
Cool. Let me know what you think of it.
Thanks. The funny thing is, what inspired me to finally pursue my dream was the fact that my shitpost for this game went awry by virtue of people being genuinely interested with what I had made.
Oh there are many issues that I have yet to fix. Issues include the following:
>The player can exit combat mode while continuing to use the Energy Buckler, causing it to float around the player while in exploration mode and breaking all animations
>My game, for some peculiar reason, does not work with an Intel processor combined with a Titan XP GPU (Definitely an engine issue)
>”Swordfighter” enemies (Bulldogs, Viceroy Canor, Saberwolves, and possibly Vicereine Iris) are still infected the “Abuse” gene, causing unpredictable bouts of rage
>Drillzors require a complete logical rewrite
Don’t worry, they’ll all get fixed in due time and I’ve also added your suggestions to the list of fixes I need to do as well. However, what’s new is what you say here:
>uses the icon of another /agdg/ anon's game (which isn't the icon inside the game's executable, weirdly enough)
What icon do you see? I don’t recall ever using a different icon than the Emblem of the Fygoon Clan, so this is news to me.
Just gotta seize the day.
this shit is based and you are cool for making v seethe.
I once saw porn of this b***h scissoring herself with her scissors and it almost made me faint thinking about it afterwards
>try anon's game
>breaks when you ctrl-f it
>uses the icon of another /agdg/ anon's game (which isn't the icon inside the game's executable, weirdly enough)
>the very first ammo storage pickup's respawn switch resets every time you die
It is pretty charming so far, and I do like anon's taste in stock sfx and level geometry, but he does need to fix up his game a little.
i think u should make a game if u like making games
You forgot horrors. like another fnaf clones that come out every fricking day like it's 2015 or something.
deckbuilders are cringe when they are wholesomerino 10 card rotating decks that all do 1 thing like deal 3 damage and they are games that don't work irl like some manner of real time shit or rpg wannabe
we need more cardgames but cardgames like yugioh that have a bible in every card
>we need more cardgames but cardgames like yugioh that have a bible in every card
>I'm brown and I only play Zelda and CoD: the image
but I am brown and I love some of those games
Roguelike are too fricking niche to ruin anyone/anything (appart from mentally ill people, but someone could argue that they were already broken). I mean, what are the most "accessible" roguelikes games? Fricking Elona and SPD
>I mean, what are the most "accessible" roguelikes games?
Roguelites
If we're speaking indie, I'd say generic survival crafting games are more prevalent in the indie department than soulslikes, soulslike are domain of AA studios
>indie games can barely re-enact AA games from the 00s
>indie games with fresh ideas are largely unpopular because they aren't familiar, popular genres
>Deus Ex-likes and immersive sims only barely started getting made after people realized that there's somehow barely any of those sorts of indie games
>indie games now started featuring AI art which looks kinda off-putting most of the time
I know that deckbuilders, roguelites and metroidvanias are often done because they're significantly easier to do but I have no idea how Soulslikes ended up getting that big when they are expansive 3D games.
Deckbuilders aren't that bad but I think they're generally too easy to cheese, and a lot of your power in a given round depends on RNG via what you're gonna draw from the deck. Card draws and mana generation are always OP.
Metroidvanias are just 2D action platforming sidescrollers, they're easy to work with.
Roguelites also suffer from a similar problem with deckbuilders but RNG has a bigger importance and it's mitigated by permanent upgrades that you can acquire.
>Deus ex-likes
Do post some, I'm interested
I know so far only about Deep State but it's yet to be released (with a demo on Itch.io). I also recall seeing some gameplay footage of someone doing some stealth, combat and keypad hacking or lockpicking in an alpha Deus Ex-like game but I don't really remember the name nor do I think I have a video file of it. Could be the same game, I don't know.
There's also Peripeteia but that's a Thief-like, not a Deus Ex-like, and also doesn't have a release yet.
For immersive sims there's Ctrl Alt Ego which gives you a lot of freedom in how you want to get through a level by taking control of various robots. Deadeye Deepfake Simulacrum is also a really interesting and decent one because it actually cites E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy as one of its inspirations but it's in early access.
>but that's a Thief-like, not a Deus Ex-like
Why's that?
I doubt the guy had much in mind besides Pseudoregalia, as I can't think of shit besides that, Laika: Aged Through Blood, and that new-ish Ratchet & Clank game no one talks about otherwise.
Scratch that, I'm moronic, OP was talking about indie games so Ratchet & Clank doesn't remotely fit.
Sybil's design really is great
>Why's that
Last time I played the demo it emphasized stealth gameplay and moving through a level rather than outright combat.
I wish I knew what even were half of these games despite knowing I will never play them
>here's a bunch of games for your genre but I won't label any of them and they're all hard to see screenshots and if you don't recognize them from memory then you're fricked teehee
Fricking Black person
Left to right, top to bottom to the best of my ability
>Brigand(Oaxaca or Panama, I'm not sure which), already released but is fairly buggy and relies on directly reaching out to the dev for fixes.
>No clue
>Athanasia - This had a demo release two days ago
>Deep State, nothing playable yet
>Ctrl Alt Ego(I think? Looks like one of the core areas), already released.
>No clue
>Core Decay, nothing playable yet.
>Fortune's Run, think it has a demo.
>Gloomwood, early access.
>No clue
>Peripeteia, pretty sure it has demos
>No clue
>Retrospace(I think?), I don't think it's playable yet
>Cruelty Squad, already out.
>Exekiller, nothing playable
>No clue
>No clue
>No clue
>Shadow of Doubt(I think?)
>No Clue
>No clue
>No clue
>Datajack 2020
>Streets of Rogue(basing that off the HUD)
it's from a xeet:
>From top left to bottom right divided into each row:
>1 - Brigand, Corpus Edax, Athanasia, DEEP STATE
>2 - Ctrl Alt Ego, PARKSIDE: DECAYED SOUL MANIPULATION, Core Decay, Fortune's Run
>3 - Gloomwood, Aquametsis, Peripeteia, The Flat
>4 - RetroSpace, Cruelty Squad, ExeKiller, Skin Deep
>5 - Spectra, ETOS, Shadows of Doubt, Fragmented City
>6 - Safe Not Safe, Betrayal At Club Low, DataJack 2020, Streets of Rogue
>Deep State, nothing playable yet
you're in for a treat, anon!
https://frogmandev.itch.io/deep-state
too much contrarianism packed into 1 image
>Messenger
Don't remind me of that filth
>Not Pokémon, Halo, World of Warcraft and Gacha as a whole
Take a fricking lap.
Bethesda could replace gacha if you are so inclined, as they achieved the same end of less power and joy to the consumer. Hell Beth killed the Cheat Engine community with an unjust C&D during their paid mods horseshit so they wouldn’t have to worry about people modding values like gold in a single player game.
And that’s just ONE of an infinite number of shit they’ve pulled behind and in front of the scenes.
Even Nintendo’s horseshit pales in comparison.
>Super Metroid placed alongside all of those new games
Props to the image for defeating its own point.
Roguelike deckbuilders are pure tripe but balatro is some grade-A crack cocaine. Feels weird lumping it in with StS.
QRD on what separates it from something like Slay the Spire?
Instead of collecting ability cards that do shit, you collect normal playing cards and use them to play poker hands, which you can augment using jokers with different effects.
it's not different
it just uses poker as its base which is something people are already familiar with.
I think it's different enough to fall out of the deckbuilder category and into the roguelite category. It feels a lot closer to something like Isaac as opposed to most other deckbuilders.
Slay the Spire plays like Magic while Balatro is a game of count to X in Y hands staring ye olde 52 cards and a gang of jokers.
>partying with jesus
>skull, gun, playing cards, cigs, alcohol, heroin
this guy really knows how to live it up.
Balatro is fake gameplay.
>games are ruined because something other than the same fps copy pasted was made
c-cool beans
Hey I like all those genres! Except soulslike but that's because I'm bad at aiming with number keys.
i understand poker games or something like that, but i don't understand a dice/cards rpg/gamer overall when you need to use a dice or random cards 24/7, that's just gambling in a video game, you hope and even grind for X skill/passive
>deckbuilder
Gambling.
>roguelite
Gambling.
You feel cheated when you lose because the game didn't give you a win. You can change your behaviour but you can't win with a pair against a full house.
>metroidvania
Shallow.
>soulslike
Shallow.
It's like they both saw their own progenitor genres, platformer and RPG, and amputated half of the formula.
For some reason Metroidvanias are exclusively about making annoying to traverse terrain """puzzles""" with various item gates and mindless backtracking. Ultimately you visit enough unique rooms to make up about a quarter of a Mario or Crash Bandicoot game's levels, because it's a cheap product.
Soulslikes are mental. Tiny levels. Rabid fans who like pretentious difficulty, long death animations and long respawn times. RPGs are supposed to be mechanics + story but the story here is a jumble of randomly generated characters ("This one is the knight of onions! This one is the eats-you-and-exposits-nonsense man!") and looking on a wiki or Game Theory video to tell you "no srsly the lore is relaly deep!!1" because it's a SETTING that somehow takes less time to explain than Star Wars. "Bonfires", woah, amazing. "Bonfires but Red Crystals" woaaaaah crazy.
>RPGs are supposed to be mechanics + story
morrowind and deus ex are not fun games
>this is what's ruining video games
I can't imagine being so blind and moronic, it actually blows my mind.
How do you ignore the last decade of pure derivative garbage and scummy business practices done by AAA studios and think "yep indies not being original enough are ruining video games".
Absoultely fricking delusional.
there's a variant of that pic that goes over exactly those kek
Nowadays Ganker actively defends microtransactions, because apparently pozzedness is a more important issue. It's insane.
Because nobody expects AAA to be good
Indies have actual potential but it's all being put into a small handful of minimal investment maximum return genres
You forgot horror games and movie games like the last of us
cards/dice & rogue mechanics are bad
because RNG is bad lazy design.
souls likes aren't inherently bad it's just that souls games are slow and control like shit so people copy this.
nothing inherently wrong with metroidvianias either. it only means you earn abilities and navigate non-linier progression.
RNG is a tool that goes unnoticed much of the time. The problem with RNG is its use as a buzzword/selling-point and poor implemention (aka bad lazy design)
The only one I agree with is rougelikes since every game is pushing some kind of rougelike element nowadays to pad out game length.
It's not just to pad out game length, game balancing & cohesive and rewarding design of game mechanics is very hard and roguelike mechanics let success and failure come down to random chance, and if you get a bad run you just start over and hope for better luck this time
It basically minimizes all the most difficult parts of game design and combines them with the addictiveness of a slot machine, it's genuinely insidious
>dd
>roguelite
Pizza Tower Obra Dinn. You're image is wrong.
I do not do it for the money, but to make the thing I want to play.
you do those as a quick buck, and use the money to fund those you really like.
Kenshi tho
"Horror lore" seems to fit Kenshi. That backstory is horrific.
Modern kirby and fnaf have fricked my taste, if I ever get to make the indie I have in my head, it’ll be filled with tons of dark lore
Thank god those last 2 options are something I'd never consider making a game without.
gamedev is pointless and fricking sucks, id rather shave my balls with a cheese grater than making a game
>my game has furry boys instead of girls
bros i'm fricked right
you wish
yeah right i walked right into that one
Put some girls in, damn you.
I'm going to cancel you, sexist pig.
>add furries to games
>it sells 10 times more copies
It really is that easy. You like money, don't you anon?
>You like money, don't you anon?
I despise it. Money implies poverty.
btw i am brown, don't know if that matters
>do this
>10 times 0 is still 0
from now on my games will have negative numbers of furries
How much will I sell if I add one furry and one human little girl.
>roguelites
Stopped reading there kys OP
The last one is nice
What would be more "meta." Appealing to furgays, or appealing to weaboos
>inb4. Both
Unless you pull some mirracle, or know what you are doing, all you will get is
A. Aleniate one fanbase (or both)
B. Give your game a bad reputation, because both fanbases are figthing like rabid animals against each other
For money, weebs probably.
They’ll drop thousands of dollars for a CHANCE at being allowed to use a jpg of their waifu.
weebs, and its not even close.
You can look in the UO threads and see why its terrible idea to try and have the two in the same game
It's LITERALLY a case of B, though most furgays already seemed to have dropped the game. And I don't think its really affected the game's overall reputation.
Meta always has and will be in favor of the Weebs since there's literally an mainline industry and Nation that supports them. Anime is just fricking everywhere to the point where grandparents know what a goku or pokemon is.
Furgays just get disney scraps and their own AIDS conventions to get clout, and nothing is ever going to erase the literal decades of gays absolutely detesting their mere existence.
>The UO threads
How does ultima online pander to either of those groups.
You're a funny guy, you know that.
But seriously, what do you mean by UO, the only thing that appears when searching is ultima online and uno online.
Unicorn Overlord. It just came out.
The first indie game to make a good freeform rpg with excellent selection of cosmetics and top notch character creator will sell frickloads.
i've played a handful of indie games the past few years. it's definitely possible
not indie, but obsidian's avowed comes out later this year and it might end up decent
I think the chink made Tale of Immortal was indie, anyway it almost hit the mark in terms of the freeform thing I'm talking about where the world gets populated with persistent characters who all have predetermined relations/families/factions that can change over time or the player can influence. I keep looking for something closer to a real RPG that has that. Will keep an eye on Avowed though.
i recently played death's door, it's not an rpg but stuff in the world changes, characters move locations and you can upgrade your abilities and it's got me thinking it would not be too much of a stretch to do what your looking for. i think it's just a matter the devs wanting to do it
>Will keep an eye on Avowed though
it's a skyrim knock off with some better magic. trailer looks alright. doesn't need to be great, just needs to have better gameplay than skyrim which isn't a high bar to clear.
I'm making mine fully roguelike, except the bestiary. The main characters are siblings and they frick in some of the endings.
Let me check the last 5 indies I've played and see how ti compares.
>30XX
roguelite, fair enough,
>Corn Kidz 64,
eh, maybe memes? Its a bit of a stretch.
>Creeper world 4
RTS is really underrepresented.
>Planet Centauri,
old perpetually in dev not terraria, I guess it still counts and Terraria clones are noticably missing from your chart.
>The Citadel,
Does this count as horror lore?
Which category does Stardew Valley fall under?
I know its predecessors were anime but SDV isn't.
>furry girls
Where the frick are they. And DON'T say Pseudoregalia because I played that one already.
Found one coming soon
Morgan's skate club, it's still in early access but a fun game with cute characters
>fuga
>gunfire reborn
>laika
>that new anomaly whatever game that just came out
>atlyss
dunno what are you talking about
Everspace 2 is none of those things, and was very successful.
Why is every thread about indie games just some circle jerk about using overly vague terms to dismiss any game and its quality?
because discussing indie games in general is to amiguous a topic to really focus on, beyond people recommending what they've played recently. there isn't much to discuss.
The op of this thread is not going to argue in good faith and neither should you reading this.
Literally every single famous indie innovated from the "meta".
this post is true, ngl
>cute girls
>game wins
why is it so easy but yet pootube devs seem to avoid this truth like plague?
What game? Filename gives no results.
It's no released game yet, it's what some anon over at /agdg/ has been working on
I get roguelites being everywhere in indies because it means less time has to go into making assets but why deckbuilders? You need a large amount of testing to make a deckbuilder work and all of them just rip off slay the spire
So the key to riches is a meme horror roguelite featuring anime and furry girls?
Who the frick makes an indie game in an effort to make money?
If you want money go be an accountant or something.
You're only describing the way to make a fleeting FOTM game, not a good game with lasting appeal
I thought it was all undertale and muh depression, I feel homosexuals hate indie because they actually have to look into devs who cater to their tastes.
what do people like to watch? how do we make a good game? i think its mostly based on skill and also how attractive the woman who is streaming.
>attractive woman streaming
I exclusively watch male streamers who DO NOT use a webcam. I do not know what these men look like, just thier silly voices.
i cant watch girls stream without orgasming into my hand
there aren't enough games with big titty furry girls
I wanna make a 16bit Pixel Art Indie Shooter. Pixel Art > Realistic Graphics.
Would you play an indie twist metal clone.
There are only benefits to making a good game and then slapping on a hot anime girl skin. I want more anime FPS games.
It's an untapped market.
>A shooter game, with over the top close to close combat
I don't like anime art style anymore, it's oversaturated and I'm sick of it. It lost the novelty appeal a long time ago.
Well then do pseudo anime style like Coffin of Leyley and Andy. If you make ugly western shit you are basically closing yourself out of the asian market and those chinese can make or break you
Not a single game has ever lost sales because of sex appeal.
This.
This.
I don't see a single reason a proper anime fps wouldn't sell like hot cakes.
It's like developers hate money.
>elementary school girl speedy class anime girl
>middle school age basic assault class anime girl
>highschool girl tanky close range anime girl
>milf(20ish) sniper anime girl
The concept basically makes itself
Oh and one face hiding helmet wearing adult male class for self inserts.
Nobody wants to shoot the anime girls other than gurogays, and the one relevant anime FPS mostly has you shooting them with an orgasm gun. If you're not shooting the anime girls, you're not seeing them. In fact it's the reason why you'll regularly see Japanese TPS but almost no FPS, because you can at least see your cute girl in a third person shooter.
>Nobody wants to shoot the anime girls other than gurogays
There are plenty of shooters that don't do gore. Even CoD is going for cartoony finishers over bloody executions.
Citadel was good, it's getting a sequel too.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1282270/Strinova/
You are welcome
>roguelite
im in the clear boys
Shill me new Indie Action games if any, I'm looking at Genokids, Jamphibians and have played Assault Spy, Sifu and HFR recently.
Still not sure if your project is a self insert scalie thing or not, homie.
I like putting a bit of myself into all of the characters I make, but it’s not a self-insert thing. Besides, humans exist but they live on a different island in the Zmeian Archipelago so they’re believed to be nothing more than legendary dream weavers to the isolated Frydarians. Now what would I rather self-insert as: a Dragon who must contend with failure and grow as a character or a mythical ape man who’s likened to a god?
Aren't some of the biggest indies stardew valley and the portia series? Which both focus on life-sim, comfy simulators? How do you forget that genre of all genres for an indie game?
>furry girls
Every game must have AT LEAST one waifur
This is the best I can do: a single Vulpine girl.
>bulbous yeti fingers
>thick thighs
>tall boots
>shiny outfit
>no mouth
>monoboob
Absolutely /d/egenerate. Giggly Goonclown would be ecstatic if he saw this.
>Ecstatic
The jokes write themselves, don’t they?
ecstatica 3 is looking crazy
One of these days I’ll make an Ecstatica render.
you are the dude making the vintage 3d balloon looking dragon game, right? I am not sure if that particular style will catch enough people
I’m not expecting it to: I’m making my game just so I can finally have closure in my life knowing that I finally did something I wanted to do instead of blindly doing everything life wants me to do. I’m not some NEET like Flargy-Filler who can dedicate all his time to making models and Goldeneye mods: I have a life to live and people to make proud.
As long as I can say I made a game before I die, then I’ll be content with my life of miserably working on boring web applications. Would be nice if I can get paid for my work and get theme park attractions based on it, but that was never my goal for this endeavor.
I respect your words, good stuff always came from the heart, I will consider buying you game just for your attitude and the soul you put into it
she is the closest thing to a """""waifur"""""""""""""""" in my game
metas change, if you just do it for the money or fame your better off just fisting your own ass in a corner of the room than making a game
art should be something you do out of love, and if the people aren't willing to subsidize your existence because your games aren't interesting or are shit, go get a job at mcdonalds and do something useful with your life.
>because your games aren't interesting or are shit
But as this thread established good and interesting games don't make money, trendy memeshit does
I just think it'd be neat. Especially with Darksynth playing
this is incredibly moronic, you are the reason why indie shit is shit
>urban fantasy but instead of it being just highlander it's got elements of fricking hacknet, VtMB and type-cuck VNs
I've seen this before, and it still reeks of dogshit taste.
>seethes about Type-Moon VNs when they are none on the pic
Mindbroken
Sounds rad honestly
>making a game in order to "succeed", not because you want to make a game
Wrong mindset. Just get an office job. You don't have the passion.
where are the child sex indie games
why is usa so restrictive
I will never be able to make a game that rivals Deltarune so why even bother
it's easy to rival deltarune, just actually finish your game 🙁
You don't get it. My dream game is a platformer about depression that uses a card based system!
Life sim and survivial games do very well too
Platformers also have a place in the market too.
Cartoony aesthetics also work, not just anime/furry
You have a lot of choices if you want to game dev, even if you chase a meta
If you don't want to be subject to market forces, you should opt out of the market.
i guess you're going to claim starsector has horror lore and roguelite mechanics?
What's to stop a game from appealing to both weebs and furgays?
Again, its better to pick one or the other.
Trying to satisfy both rarely works. Unless i guess you're some gacha mobile game or something
and even then, the normal characters tend to be far more popular than furshit
IMO the trick is to at least nail a consistent, memorable artstyle if you're going to appeal to both crowds, something like Final Fantasy IX or Pokemon nails it pretty well.
indie games are dogshit they are legit worse than flash games at this point
make streamer bait?
making video games is a huge invesment of personal time to make anything your not interested in. Those streamer bait games were likely alighned with the developers interest. happy accident.
What are your feelings on an indie 3d adventure RPG with cute romanceable female companions you can impregnate?
ftfy
I'm starting to think you guys just don't like video games.
epic meme.
working on a car battle/racing game. hoping people still like these
I don't play these much but your webm looks cool
Thanks bud
>complaining about the lack of originality in indie games
Be the change you want to see in the world, homosexual.
Also "streamer bait" is a meaningless buzzword.
>posts a generic derivative wario world clone
have a nice day.
oof. did I strike a nerve, cutie? :3c
>Faster, to the point where it's more like Sonic + Super Metroid (Shinespark and how you go through enemies at top speed)
>Frame-by-frame MS-paint drawings
>No health
Here's that (You) you wanted champ.
>no health
a few of the warioland games have no health. seems like an apt comparison.
also
>using "drawn in ms paint" as a positive
um, yikes.
>"ughh why are indies all roguelikes and metroidvanias, there should be more games based on other things"
>niche/genre that has an untapped market or lack of games gets one
>"WTF THIS IS A DERIVATIVE CLONE"
Just can't win with you homies.
and yet that obvious wario land clone has over a million owners on steam and was confirmed to have sold 100k in it's release month, meaning pizza tower made the dev $2mil in a single month
and yet nintendo still refuses to make a wario land game, guess they don't like money after all
Nintendo makes 250M dollars for checking a HD resolution box in Skyward Sword and releasing it on Switch, I don't think 2M dollars is a sum they'd find interesting enough to put in a game's worth of effort into earning
Nintendo certainly should care when Pizza Tower by now has made around $13-$15mil and it's only been released for 15 months
Nintendo's official figures for things like Mario Wonder was $10-$11mil (6 months from release) and Mario RPG was only $3mil and for Wonder that's the fastest a Mario game has sold
And if we look at Wario, Pizza Tower by itself has sold more units than the entire lifetime sales of Wario Land ($13mil) and WarioWare lifetime sales are $7mil
If Pizza Tower is outselling Mario spinoffs released in 2023, outselling the entire Wario Land franchise and not being too far behind mainline Mario games also released in 2023 then Nintendo should certainly care about making a new Wario Land if they want money
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Wario obviously doesn't sell so why would they keep investing in him?
Just because pizza tower did well doesn't mean a brand new Wario platformer would do the same.
True
Streamer bait isn't a buzzword. It can refer to a game that's more fun to watch than to play.
>watch Lethal Company
>people are getting into shenanigans interacting and running from monsters
>funny moments like accidentally running into a room full of turrets or leading to a mine total party kill
>play Lethal Company
>sprinting is annoyingly restrictive
>item system is annoyingly restrictive
>lose to trial and error bullshit (carrying a metal item outside while there is lightning, ambushing enemies, ghost girl forcing a timer etc) until you git gud
>find out that there's barely any game beyond fulfilling the quota and doing it all over again
>barely playable without at least another player
And it can extend to non-indies too, MOBAs are deliberately streamerbait.
>And it can extend to non-indies too, MOBAs are deliberately streamerbait.
Goes for a lot of competitive genres. Fighting games and RTS come to mind. The majority loves watching these but has no idea how to play or have fun with them over a long period of time.
I want to make that punching girl my wife
Just make what you want anon
>but what if I fail
You will. You might as well make the game you want.
Why harry potter??
>womenpodcast
pissed libc**t seething at based Rowling.
It says owenbroadcast, anon
It was made before the troon outrage
>Has better controls than JSRF but half of the amount of need Naganuma
Polish in visual aesthetics like more passerby, maybe more content in terms of 2 more maps and the mentioned music and a handful of some meh tracks are about it for me in terms of cons compared to Future.
I wonder how much Naganuma charges, the devs always get 1 or 2 songs made by him in their games
@673644490
@673645639
switch up your posting style it's pretty obvious you unironically follow the playbook
@673677464
>implying there's anything of substance about you fact checking me on VNs
They're not real video games.
>frogBlack person
Of course, opinion automatically discard
Now continue seething
I accept your concession.
Anyone got the rec chart of all the indies but with their names modified to be called slop?
>all those furgays
As always: please point me to modelgays who do good models that *aren't* 6 million poly abomination.
You create to express yourself. If that happens to also net you financial success, that's just a bonus.
If I made a 2d or 3d platformer where you play as a little girl and you collect power ups that transform her do you guys think it be obvious it is a fetish thing to people who see the game
Only if those powerups make her look suggestive
I figured:
Werewolf girl where she slightly rips through her clothes and can cling to walls with her claws and run fast
A skin tight alien suit that givers her tentacle grappling hooks for swing around
An invisibility one that doesn't make her clothing invisible so she has to undress every time she sneaks around.
You know, that kind of thing.
That just sounds fun and suggestive(fun).
>invisibility one that doesn't make her clothing invisible so she has to undress every time she sneaks around
I like this one especially. Delights without being lurid.
>pick up invisible
>character is now perfectly shaped shirt-n-shorts
>gameplay doesn't stop but animates around character stripping off shirt
>bounces on one foot briefly as the pants come off
>will trip if you try to attack before the pants animation is finished
If your not making the games you wanna play, then dont bother
l'art pour l'art
>depression/abuse allegory
None of my designs are 'fun'. They all offer deep political and cultural messages with no appeal to the uneducated masses. What do?
I want to make a Gankercore rpg where you kill Black folk and have to avoid the JIDF.
thank you anon, I will now play all of these games
Just make a GOOD game and have someone like Mandelore / Sseth make a video on it. Sseth is a known shill and will do it for money as long as he actually likes the game.
You either make something new and fantastic or you go with the flow. Risk taking is a dangerous gamble.
gamedev is one of last few remaining meritocracies in the world, it is inherently self filtering.
No point, no one wants to play your shitty game.
Indies are just as soulless and uncreative as their AAA counterparts, indie shills just love a certain kind of slop that AAA doesn't make.
I just wanna make a very fun game to post for free on the google play store and get some ads money