This.
Every umineko people I talked with were unhinged, so I was curious about the VN, and it was one of the worst thing I have ever read, I stopped at chapter 2 because it was just wasting my time.
It's like Mushishi, Monster, Steins;gate or Evangelion, things for autists or underage people to circlejerk about because they think it makes them look smart.
actually the Japs do and the Western VN fanbase does, but please cope and seethe and tell me more about how "it doesn't count"
Your b***h tears are comedy
Posts like this invariably make the person look like a fricking brainlet who didn't like x but got the vague idea that it's smart so needed to work that into their "criticism" of it.
I can understand thinking that Eva and steins;gate is pretentious and overrated (Eva's still a masterpiece though), but the fact you called Mushi-shi pretentious probably means you're a brainlett that's never read a book not assigned by a teacher or listened to an album without some accompying activity like driving or being at an event.
Good to see this near the top. Umi made me look at actual plane tickets to Japan because I wanted to plant my fist into R07's face after sitting through that dreck.
Probably subahibi. I was promised schizo kino and all I got is y*ri pseudo-intellectual sol. Or maybe the worst one is VLR if it counts as vn. After awesome 999, VLR feels like a complete downgrade
999
I honestly thought it will get better, since i got it gifted, but what the frick, it got worse every moment till the end
Then i looked up writer QnA and realized that moron didn't even tried to cover up every his asspull
At least now i know that if someone speaks good of 999, poster is ultimately moronic beyond saving
If you take ZTD as a comedy then it's a pretty fun experience but taking it seriously I don't understand how anyone can say it's better than any of the other two games. >akane the cold calculating mastermind who has seen millions of timelines and planned two nonary games turns into a yandere whenever junpei dies >sigma and phi do nothing despite training the entire last game for this specific mission >meanwhile this random fireman immediately masters shifting once he finds out about it and speedruns the game >the main villain is slightly off screen the entire game >also the main villain isn't the main villain it's actually this random terrorist mentioned at the end >the decision game is just a bunch of arbitrary saw traps where your decisions don't matter most of the time >also you control each team leader so shit like the execution vote or the acid shower button has no tension even the first time around >eric and mira exist just to frick over everyone else and their characters don't go anywhere >ending turns shifting into a moral dilemma even though you've been casually shifting all over the place this entire time
the cold calculating mastermind who has seen millions of timelines and planned two nonary games turns into a yandere whenever junpei dies
This shit always made me mad because she treated Junpei like shit from emotionally manipulating him in 999, giving him the cold shoulder in the VLR timeline, and then acting like a scatterbrained c**t in ZTD despite the implication of her having lived out so many lifetimes yet acting like an immature kid.
And then she has the audacity to act like she is a blameless victim?
Yea I mentally checked out of the game around then.
>also the main villain isn't the main villain it's actually this random terrorist mentioned at the end
You didn't do it justice. The entire plot of all three games all happened due to a snail. The main villain's sole motives are to ensure that the chain of events from this snail remains unbroken, so that he can exist to catch the real main villain.
The current antagonist has access to literal mind bending powers, alien cloning teleportation machines, an army of killer robots, a quantum computer that lets him peer into alternate realties at will, and he can read the minds of SHIFTers who travel across parallel worlds.
He is so inept that despite all of this at his disposal he literally cannot find the leader of a prominent cult.
We never see the true villain.
We never confront him.
We never find out who he is.
The series ends with the main villain saying "guess you are really motivated to find him now huh :)" and then we have a cliffhanger.
I dropped it in the first chapter. Maybe I'll try again some time
>Drop a 65 hour VN in the first 3 hours
Subahibi has a beginning that doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the VN at all, and that is debatably a big mistake (I think it isn't, but it relates to the ending of the VN), but you're a subhuman homosexual for calling it the worst VN you've ever read when you didn't even finish it. You didn't even get 5% into it.
>that doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the VN at all, and that is debatably a big mistake (I think it isn't, but it relates to the ending of the VN)
Worded that poorly, I meant to say that you only really understand what chapter 1 is about after 40 hours, and the other first chapters are not related to it.
Honestly, I'm glad it exists and it filters you homosexuals. Stay out of my medium. Get an attention span longer than a goldfish or frick off.
Subahibi rocks
Like other anon said, you didn't get anywhere close to the good parts.
i got to looking glass insects chapter which has been like maybe 20-25 hrs and its been utter dogshit till then and didn't look like it was getting any better so i dropped that shit, anyone who says its good like these morons are bait
>Subahibi has a beginning that doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the VN at all
The first chapter of Subahibi is literally the most important one. Go reread it.
vlr only felt bad to me at first, once I got used to the 3d I ended up liking it better than 999. ztd though is hot trash, tried to get into it a few times, I just really like this setting/story, but damn, they should've stuck to the vn presentation style, reading a bit of neutral text is much better than having to stare at horribly acted 3d anime scenes for hours on end, really puts in the perspective as to why most poor studios who want to make an anime story game usually stick to the vn genre, trying to make an anime with no budget or experience is just sad.
Idk, I feel like basically half of the cast of VLR could be deleted from the game and nothing will change. The plot was somewhat predictable and a little too over the top for me. And I fricking hated route structure in VLR. Maybe it's just my luck, but I remember being blocked from progressing at least 3 times before I picked the "correct" route.
Shoutout to that one homosexual on twitter that keeps avatargayging this character.
I hate him but I hate twitter more. Random nobodies constantly posting an opinions nobody give a shit about trying to GOTCHA everyone. Also I don’t play any VNs so frick you OP
999
I honestly thought it will get better, since i got it gifted, but what the frick, it got worse every moment till the end
Then i looked up writer QnA and realized that moron didn't even tried to cover up every his asspull
At least now i know that if someone speaks good of 999, poster is ultimately moronic beyond saving
Fate Stay Night is my choice too.
There are probably worse VNs out there, but when I find them I stop reading pretty quick. I liked Tsukihime so I forced myself to keep going with FS/N, but it never got better. Muv Luv is great though, frick you.
Oh boy, can't wait to read a thread full of people posting stuff from the top 50 slots of VNDB's ranking page and not actual kusoge.
Anyway for me it's this. Not really bad, just boring as all hell
AI: The Somnium Files 2: Nirvana Initiative
horrible game
the big twist is beyond pointless
irrelevant side characters take up so much screen time
reused and overused gags
the villain is practically a non-entity
the somnium sections make slightly more logical sense than the first game's, but it's still just guessing most of the time. there is exactly 1 entertaining somnium in the whole game
I agree the twist is dumb, but I really kind of like how audacious it is.
Like the whole game has to be structure in such a weird way that no-one would ever reasonably do. And because it's such insane thing to do for a story, I kind of respect it. I don't think any other game or story will really have a twist like that. But again the whole story crumbles in on itself to pull that twist off. That being said, the game is nowhere near bad, nor is it in the worst 500 VNs ever made.
you got scammed by the gays, it's mainly a train nerd VN
the company pissed off the fans massively though with their next release so they're gonna probably die eventually
Yes actually, and the OG is one of my favorites because I am around the same age as OG Shiki so the OG's 2000's setting really speaks to me.
I am looking forward to the Far Side routes to see how off the rails shit gets.
I would highly recommend the original first so you can compare how things changed.
I will admit original Tsukihime's music is extremely comfy. I could listen to it on loop (you pretty much have to since the game is long).
The remake has the highest production value of any VN though and it's worth it for that alone.
I went into thinking the worst >OLD GOOD >NEW BAD >LOL FGO SHIT FOR ZOOMERS
and it still won me over despite the one of the key fights on Ciel's routes being moronic as shit. If they keep it up, I can't wait to see what's up with Burned Man and Spider Tiddies.
I will admit original Tsukihime's music is extremely comfy. I could listen to it on loop (you pretty much have to since the game is long).
The remake has the highest production value of any VN though and it's worth it for that alone.
I went into thinking the worst >OLD GOOD >NEW BAD >LOL FGO SHIT FOR ZOOMERS
and it still won me over despite the one of the key fights on Ciel's routes being moronic as shit. If they keep it up, I can't wait to see what's up with Burned Man and Spider Tiddies.
based Tsukihimebros
I enjoyed it far more than F/SN, regardless of quality
Literally anything that starts in a school setting and only 20 hours later you get to the ACTUAL good part of the plot in a post-apocalypse or some shit. But the school is "totally important, guys!".
VN is plagued with some abhorrent tropes that are lifted from trashy romance self-fulfilment romps.
I thought Yumina the Etheral was quite fun on that aspect
https://i.imgur.com/DkLfiJr.jpg
What's the worst VN you ever read?
Ayakashabito
I think Minato is a deep and well written character whose struggles resonate with most well meaning people. Shame you didn't like it anon.
Goddamn i hated Kageaki when it was about his mindset on killing and the whole talk about killing was just shit, at least chachamaru and muramasa routes were fun
I think what really annoyed me is that i tried to force myself into continuing so i kinda started hating on it with no good reason, its my fault still can't help but dislike it
I'm still mad ZTD was phoned in because the Uchikoshi got fricking bored after he begged the Zero Escape fandom to help get part 3 greenlit.
I will never forgive that frick.
The entirety of the animation for ZTD was outsourced because the budget was fricked seven ways from Sunday.
The jump cuts were extremely obvious if you ever look for them. Any time a character interacts with something in ZTD, it's always accompanied with a quick shot of the ceiling or something irrelevant. They literally couldn't animate them picking up a bottle, the locked safes, etc.
Not counting bad shitty nukige, but only "serious" ones trying to tells a real story...
Chaos;Head, Steins;Gate 0 and Subahibi are all pretty trash. Hard to pick among those.
Both Muv-Luv and S;G is garbage. Unless you like waifus, I guess. Which tells a lot about the type of individual who makes S;G and M-L threads for the past decade+.
S;G 0 is largely shit outside of comedic relief, they only made it because S;G was lightning in a bottle and nothing else they made ever compared
It's why they're going bankrupt and trying to desperately milk the frick out of S;G
Fruit of Grisaia is like the perfect example of how a lot of ero-VNs try to mash too much shit together >Some boy transfers to a high school >But this isn't just any ordinary high school, it's an all girls high school >But the girls in the school aren't just normal high school girls, they're high school girls who are mentally unstable and struggling with deep seated trauma >Also the boy isn't just any ordinary teenage boy, he's also a highly skilled assassin who works for a super secret shadow organization
Sorry lads, the best among the best VNs are JOP exclusive and I really do mean this however, that'll be changing during 2024-2025
About 7 of the 34 infamous -and famous- kamiges are all scheduled to get TL'd in 2024 alone.
Around 8 of them predictably by 2025.
Not sure what'll happen after.
it's funny as frick when I see someone call S;G 'pseud' when the game never ever pretends to be anything other than pop sci and leaning in to it, such as the inclusion of urban legends like the IBM and Titor
it lets me know the poster is an abject moron
if you don't like chuuni DI is going to be painful but if you think magical Nazis shooting beams at each other like DBZ is cool, then it's a fricking blast.
was hoping moreso for a high fantasy martial nationstate philosphy epic that takes advantage of the enormous storytelling freedom afforded to the medium
but it's low-brow 'im firin mah lazer pew pew' set to choral music?
the fights in di are really bad. most of it boils down to ‘AND THE MC HIT THE OPPONENT HARDER’ because he has no powers other than timestop. for a chuunige, it was a huge disappointment
The worst one I read was Fata Morgana. After the utter disappointment of Door 1 and the horrible lukewarm edge shit of Door 2, I am convinced that anyone who likes that VN only enjoyed the music and the above-average sprite drawing, which are still shit because they have one or two reaction, making them shit. I refuse to read dogshit writing just so that the sequel has the potential to be good.
No, stay far away from Fata Morgana.
Raging Loop is the only one the I felt like respects my time while being of substantive length. Best "death-game" I've encountered in media over even Liar Game and Kaiji
Are you serious? It was the most wasteful of your time since it had three mafia/werewolf games in 30+ hours, and none of the dynamics or whodunnit were interesting. Even the final one where you're finally the werewolf was fricking boring. To even compare it to Liar's Game and Kaiji is an insult to both.
Easily chaos child. First chapters are good and then some schizo shit with blades start happening and MC becomes more and more of a gay it's unberable. Also the "twist" of the main girl was stupid.
Raging Loop is the only one the I felt like respects my time while being of substantive length. Best "death-game" I've encountered in media over even Liar Game and Kaiji
I liked this, but I really wish it didn't turn into capeshit at the end after all the side-stories.
I do wish we'd get more Mafia/Town of Salem/Werewolf game premises, though. Was Gnosia was supposed to be one? Haven't tried it yet.
>that spoiler
hey, nice. I don't often see too many people who actually read the after stories and the Rev mode and understood what the frick happened.
It was kind of fun going back at and looking at everything Fusaishi decided had a logical explanation even if it was contrived because he believed it had to be that. Like the electronic door locks on rickety old wooden shack doors
did you do the new game + or whatever it's called? lost my save file before I could
For Raging Loop? Yeah, unlocked everything. Too bad I played it on the Switch or I'd toss a file your way.
>respects your time
lmao, VN went to shit the moment they showed that big spider and went full meta with the sheep. Don't even remember anything about the VN because of that, my brain just shut down and I finished it on auto pilot
did anything good come out in the last 6 months? I go through VN phases, and I used to go to /vn/ to catch up but I've found that place unusable for the last year or so. It's too bad too; I went there since the board split.
I could really go for some gameplayge like Uta or Amayui/Kamidori.
How is that Oshtor based JRPG they came out with? I slept on it because it doesn't have Haku and it's kind of lame to know how Oshtor is going to end up and then go back to play his past.
>Play Saya no Uta, it doesn't waste a fricking second
except the whole thing is a waste
watch David Cronenberg's best films in that time span instead, much more rewarding
If it's inspired by anything, it's Lovecraft. But I'm glad you think some random leaf is so important that you need to bring him up in an unrelated discussion, good for you.
>moron
don't recommend garbage VNs then
I'm not even bringing it up for its overall quality, he said he doesn't like the long drawn out intros that "all" VNs have so I recommended one that doesn't have that specific problem he mentioned.
I liked Summer Pockets a lot, having it read it just this year. My only complaints were that the big sad ending scene in the true route drags out just a little too long, and Tenzen being an actual non-character. Ryoichi was comedic relief but he proved to pull his weight when the story needed it while actually having a bit more to him than his gag.
Have you read the earlier Key VNs?
I don't absolutely hate Summer Pockets like some people do, but I also can't see it as anything other than a much shittier off-brand version of the real Key VNs.
it's kinda weird, I was pretty alone in hating it early on I felt like. Everyone else seemed to like it and I thought I was in bizarroland. I guess some distance from the release and some reflection on older Key titles changed the perspective on it.
all the shitting on him and it turns out he was the secret sauce and now he's buckbroken into not wanting to do games ever again because of the gachashit blowback.
>Doki Doki Literature Club
I hate it, I hate the good ending and I hate the author gushing about challenging the status quo while making western irony slop. It makes me sick every time I see normies gushing about it on the places people discuss vns.
Reddit has better taste in VNs than 4chins. That's VNDB though, not Reddit. You seem confused. If you check EGS, you'll see that the Moon People have generally the same taste as VNDB westoids.
Therefore, I fit in, they fit in, but you don't.
idk how you can say totono’s sexual content is a selling point for it unless you have an unironic cuckold fetish. There’s just straight up fetish-level cuck shit multiple times throughout the game that is unavoidable.
It's just babbys first fourth wall breaking VN
Totono for midwits and SJWs that think everything from japan is problematic so we need to whitewash it
A shallow, soulless copy of the original master work
>Filtered by a little cucking
Here are said midwits that can't appreciate a story without self inserting as the protagonist. Completely ignoring that was the whole point of the plot.
If you aren’t willing to eat out your girlfriend’s pussy after she got creampied by another man, did you really even love her? Definitely relevant to the plot as a test of love.
Muv Luv is not worth it. There are some really cool scenese but you have to slog through hours of the moronic mc repeating the same shit over and over. The epilogue is kino gotta admit that.
Bro, being here in 2011 when Amaterasu first dropped the games was god tier.
We also didn't read them back to back since there was the whole MangaGAYmer drama.
Not so sure I would ever recommend tackling all three at once.
Muvluv doesn't get good, it IS good. But only if you have shit eating grin from reading haremshit that occassionally drops sci-fi elements on you and shows you how things "already happened" and how each event reverbs in the alternative timelines.
I frankly can't stand the folk wanking to MUH ALTERNATIVE MUH DRAMA cause it's not the fricking point until like 70h in. You either like it or not, I liked it, I had fun with it. If you don't like it from the start, like at least give it 5h, then you won't like the rest. It's just that simple.
You had your turn, you don't like it, so don't play it. People who force themselves into playing vidya they don't like because someone told them "but it gets good 40h in!" are fricking morons without the sense of their own self that will listen like sheep to anything that was told to them.
reddits gate
umineko
muv luv
take your pick, quite telling that these so called "kamiges" are all from the top ten on vndb, which should tell you of the taste of western vntroons
>n..no....the Japs don't count....Reddit doesn't count.....VNDB doesn't count.../vn/ polls don't count...only me and what I made up in my head with no evidence counts....
L
>BUT REDDIT! >BUT /VN/!! >BUT NIPS!!!
Yes. You don't even exist homosexual.
actually the Japs do and the Western VN fanbase does, but please cope and seethe and tell me more about how "it doesn't count"
Your b***h tears are comedy
this buzzword spamming moron thinks he has a point?
LOL
Everyone knows S;G is literally the only good thing Chiyomaru has made, as multiple people ITT have stated already you illiterate moron
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Chiyomaru has made
It wasn't even Chiyomaru, Chaos;Head and Steins;Gate are Nitroplus writers works
5 months ago
Anonymous
You know what, fair point. After Nitro+ was no longer in the picture, the games went to shit. Absolutely correct.
Thanks for proving the point that S;G is great but all the other games they came out with after it were terrible and doomed the company.
5 months ago
Anonymous
pretty funny how badly the other stuff performed
5 months ago
Anonymous
>NPC can't cope, starts spewing randomly
kek, I overheated it
this buzzword spamming moron thinks he has a point?
LOL
Everyone knows S;G is literally the only good thing Chiyomaru has made, as multiple people ITT have stated already you illiterate moron
>Refuse to make a direct sequel to S;G >Interquel makes them money but they shat the bed with the ending >Interquel anime lacks the soul of the original VN or anime >try to ham fist SG characters in their other games to trick fans into buying games they don't care about >Steins;Gate Elite didn't anime everything >Confirm Zero Elite and then make a different game instead >broke, bankrupt, and in danger of losing everything
they fricking deserve it, all we wanted was Okabe living happily ever after with Kurisu.
5 months ago
Anonymous
They deserved worse, they lost money just by being greedy. It was easier to make money and they chose not to.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Greedy would be fricking over Chaosgays by never making a sequel to that series, scrap all the other tales, and go full speed making Steins;Gate games and stories for 30 years.
Instead what happened was they wanted to make all these other games that were not interesting at all and then making the argument that if we don't buy them then they won't make more Steins;Gate content.
They were just arrogant stupid fricks.
5 months ago
Anonymous
They were so greedy they defy rationality. Thought that they can get 5 another IPs and milk them before releasing anything sg
5 months ago
Anonymous
>They were so greedy they defy rationality
I can agree with this.
Frick them.
Chaos;Head
It starts out as a cool mystery novel about random brutal murders with an amnesiac protagonist that somehow finds himself near the scene of the crime. It's pretty cool for a while, then it turns into dragon ball with anime women and it goes to shit
To be fair, how were they supposed to end it when the trajectory of the plot was tending towards more and more supernatural?
Also what's you're favourite Takumi scream, the one with the hand never gets old
I've enjoyed pretty much enjoyed all vns I have read. I feel like if you cannot enjoy umineko, s;g, or muv luv it's because you forced yourself to read it when you were clearly not in the mood to read it thinking the hype would carry it.
These reads require investment for their emotional payoffs and once it clicks for you, you "get" it.
The secret to enjoying Umineko's later chapters is to be too stupid to solve the mystery therefore avoiding the mindset of getting too obsessed with the mystery part. That's what I did and my stupidity led me to enjoy it way more
I hate a lot of the well praised VNs because they tend to be fricking shit for 90% of their runtime, but they're good because le epic twist happens.
Little Busters, Rewrite, G-Senjou, Muv Luv (Extra), Ever17, Grisaia and probably others I'm forgetting. They're all truly horrible to read for the most part.
Ever17's twist was FRICKING stupid to be fair, shat all over it. It was so much fun figuring shit out before that
>The secret to enjoying Umineko's later chapters is to be too stupid to solve the mystery therefore avoiding the mindset of getting too obsessed with the mystery part.
This was literally me while reading Umineko. I started to just treat it as a regular story which made the later chapters more enjoyable (although chapter 7 and 8 really tested my patience with how much of a slog it became at certain parts)
>The secret to enjoying Umineko's later chapters is to be too stupid to solve the mystery therefore avoiding the mindset of getting too obsessed with the mystery part. That's what I did and my stupidity led me to enjoy it way more
I just started chapter 6 last night. I'll put it this way, I don't feel too stupid to try to solve the mystery, however, a thing that deters me is that the game is just extremely long. I didn't take notes as I was reading the early parts of the game, and I started it over a month ago, so there's definitely things I don't remember. I also don't really understand how some red statements carry over through games, and some don't (but perhaps this is a mistake I'm making and actually everything is logically consistent)/
I didn't really like how the time I spent trying to figure out the witch's epitaph was essentially wasted and made meaningless by the characters just figuring it out in their heads, with little to no explanation, then reading books (that the reader doesn't have access to) to confirm, and then you don't get told what the answer even is. I guess the riddle really isn't that important after all, but I resent that the game presents it as something that you can and should try to solve. I also don't understand why Battler wasn't instantly made the golden witch (sorcerer) after he found the gold in episode 5. That's what happened with Eva in episode 3 (or 4? I forget). Isn't this inconsistent? Why does he have to fully understand everything to become the sorcerer? Eva didn't.
Also, about the Gold truth. At first I figured that the Gold Truth is a level above red, since Battler knows everything, he can definitely confirm which one of two proposed truths is real, however the other witches says sometime the Gold is weaker and sometimes stronger, then Erika complains and says she wants an explanation of what the gold truth is, but one isn't really given. I wanted to know too.
I ran out of text by the way. I don't really want answers now to the things I'm confused about, I would just like to know if these things are addressed later.
The solution to the epitaph is given in EP7. The reason it doesn't show the process to solving it is because you're not given the answer yet, not because it's made irrelevant. Also the books the characters check only have historical and geographic information if I recall, not any information the reader can't find out about.
Oh, right on. I thought it was just "done" now. My theory was that the "river"/"it" in these: >Behold the sweetfish river running through my beloved hometown. >You who seek the Golden Land, follow its path downstream in search of the key. >As you travel down it, you will see a village.
is actually a road, a highway or something like that. So I figured I'd have to look at some maps and follow roads to something. You confirming that it's addressed again wants to make me take a look at maps and try to figure it out. Of course, I don't want you to confirm or deny it. Just wanted to share. Thanks for the reply anon.
I hate a lot of the well praised VNs because they tend to be fricking shit for 90% of their runtime, but they're good because le epic twist happens.
Little Busters, Rewrite, G-Senjou, Muv Luv (Extra), Ever17, Grisaia and probably others I'm forgetting. They're all truly horrible to read for the most part.
Little Busters, Rewrite and Muv Luv are all good before the twist(s), no one is praising those just for some supposed twist. G-Senjou is good UNTIL the twist, which is moronic and the story immediately goes to shit afterwards. The others are just bad, I don't think Grisaia even has a twist.
The only Japanese example of what you're talking about that I can think of is Sharin No Kuni, but in its defence, that was a pretty damn good twist. Usually it's western "ironic" VNs that have a twist or a weird concept and nothing else going for them.
>Little Busters, Rewrite and Muv Luv are all good before the twist(s), no one is praising those just for some supposed twist. G-Senjou is good UNTIL the twist, which is moronic and the story immediately goes to shit afterwards. The others are just bad, I don't think Grisaia even has a twist.
based correct opinion
The side-routes in all of them are pretty bad.
Little Busters has one good moment, which is confronting Kengo and Masato (I think this is his name).
Rewrite's characters are so bad that I was completely astonished when Sakuya turned out to be my favorite.
Everyone but fanboys knows Muv Luv Extra is trash.
G-Senjou's true route is its only good part.
I don't have anything against Sharin no Kuni's twist, which is why I didn't even mention it. I don't think it's very good either, but nowadays almost nobody talks about it.
dropped it halfway through the second route, was too boring >Thoughts on Not Araragi?
making the main character bland on purpose is a fricking moronic idea and I wish writers would stop doing this.
If you dislike >muvluv(kino) >totono(kino) >steins gate(kino)
and/or >rance(kino)
You're a Black person, simple as.
Never ever post in one of these threads.
Also, you should consider killing yourself.
>poorly written harem trying to be a war epic with shit ending >OMG EPIC FOURTH WALL KEKOLDING!!! >popscience harem nonsense >le funny rapeman
literally all kusoges. have a nice day my Black person
I want to say, I'm not a huge VN guy (I've read some of the most popular ones, that's it) but the original Tsukihime is my favorite. Saya no Uta was my first but Tsukihime was my first long one and it gripped me very well. I've been wanting to re-read it recently. Hisui is best girl btw.
they have to sit there never getting dicked because his mind and heart are with Kuon, hence the epilogue.
I'm sure YOU like ball and wiener torture but that's a weird definition of 'winning'
you could play more stuff from the same studio, they made some pretty good stuff. If you want something that focuses on action, try Ouka Sengoku. If you want something that's mostly comedy, Yunibaru. If you want something in between, Maple Colors 2
I'll tell you why I didn't like it at least. It was written to be a mystery first and then have character second. Nobody speaks or thinks like a real human. Let's say Dude McGuy walks into a room and Gal O'Lass says, "Dude, over here!". The game would be like >Dude saw Gal waving at him from the corner of the room but his eyes were drawn to the black smoke staining the ceiling. Truly, this celi... >*insert 6 paragraphs about the ceiling and wall curtains* >three pages later, Dude finally said, "Hello.".
You WILL frantically scrawl detailed notes on how the pattern of mould on the wallpaper relates to every other clue you've seen thus far and you WILL like it
>The secret to enjoying Umineko's later chapters is to be too stupid to solve the mystery therefore avoiding the mindset of getting too obsessed with the mystery part.
This was literally me while reading Umineko. I started to just treat it as a regular story which made the later chapters more enjoyable (although chapter 7 and 8 really tested my patience with how much of a slog it became at certain parts)
Yeah when he focuses too much on the mystery it sucks because the mystery sucks
yeah which makes the mystery reveal of dude it's more teleporting MAGIC rock dude infinitely more infuriating than when a Japanese game does it. When it's literal magic, trying to frame it as an authentic mystery goes out the window
It's a mystery written with an extreme level of autism. I liked it, but just as another anon said, don't expect good characters or prose out of it. But man, it gets fricking insane.
Literally every Nasu property I ever touched. I could only force myself through the UBW route and that was enough. Couldn't even get through a single route in Tsukihime because of how he has absolutely no fricking idea how to write human dialog. The description of what the character sees also sounds like a robot trying to analyze his surroundings. >Oh, no! Heracles/Gilgamesh/Roa are so powerful because they're the true descendants of the paradox eclipse lunar mechanism and have "become" the true incantation of eternal stigma engine. What is Shiro/Shiki gonna do? >"Turacu on!" >*Takes off glasses*
Also everyone is everyone else's brother/sister/future self and they all got raped at some point. Fricking moronic.
Does anyone know where to find the JP lyrics of Sanctus, the Dies Irae ending song?
I've been looking everywhere and literally cannot find anything on it. I like to listen to it as I go to sleep and I like to know the lyrics of JP songs so it better resonates with me
Oh, you haven't played the Super Sentai themed Stryker? One of the best VNs ever?
Heh... better not show your face around here anymore, kid. This is where the pros hang out, and you?
You're not a pro.
I've not read a truly bad VN outside of porn, and I will not consider those part of the question.
Thus, my answer is Chaos;Child. I would like to give a special shoutout to the brainless morons that heavily suggest playing Chaos;Head before Chaos;Child. I am sorry they are so stupid they cannot understand an incredibly simple plot without first playing a game that spells absolutely everything out and spoils most of the spiritual successor/remake.
Chaos;Child is simply Chaos;Head with everything interesting and unique removed for the purpose of trying to capture a more normie audience. I would not consider Chaos;Head good, but Chaos;Child manages to be much worse.
The twist at the very end was maybe the most moronic thing I've ever seen in a published work. The antagonist's decisions were entirely non-sensical. Steins;Gate is the only good thing that company made. It's shocking how mediocre to bad everything else they've done is.
>The twist at the very end was maybe the most moronic thing I've ever seen in a published work.
Your post sounds like a pasta but fricking thank you, finally. Someone with some fricking brain cells. They clearly ran out of time and went >uuuh we out of time, quick need epic tweest
I loved Head for the atmosphere but yeah child was by far the worst VN i've ever read. Reminder that the big reveal gets fixed like 30 minutes after it's introduced and adds NOTHING to the story. Add a forced sad ending plus route padding and you have a fricking shitshow, every sequel from this developer is a warcrime and I wish they never bothered.
Don't forget >uhhhh we passed some laws so everyone has to pretend everything is normal and everyone follows that law perfectly >uhhhh no other SciAdv story mentions that an entire ward in Tokyo turned into morons, which would be the biggest happening in the last 100 years
>uhhhh no other SciAdv story mentions that an entire ward in Tokyo turned into morons, which would be the biggest happening in the last 100 years
to be fair just like IRL I imagine the committee controls the media and any journalist who would try to talk about it to a wider audience would suddenly get the urge to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head. It's still dumb though because it would take just one gaijin to go >WOW LOOK AT THIS GUYS
and post evidence on social media for it to spiral out of control
we passed some laws so everyone has to pretend everything is normal and everyone follows that law perfectly
the C;C syndrome patients don't know about it not just because of the laws but also because of the delusion from the syndrome itself
no other SciAdv story mentions that an entire ward in Tokyo turned into...
the only SciADV entry that takes place after C;C are the Robotics;Notes, and there's no reason why the R;N protagonists would care about the chaos child syndrome
>I am sorry they are so stupid they cannot understand an incredibly simple plot without first playing a game that spells absolutely everything out and spoils most of the spiritual successor/remake.
Imagine being too moronic to understand why people recommend to read Chaos;Head before Chaos;Child. You unironically got filtered.
yeah but chaos;head fricking sucks balls. I am literally the protagonist (long-time neet and useless person) and I fricking hate him. I of course don't hate him for being a gamer neet, I hate him for how whiny he is.
morons recommend playing Chaos;Head first because they find the powers of Chaos;Child too confusing unless they play an entire game to spell them out. I'm not a moron though, so I would have been absolutely fine with the way everything is explained in Chaos;Child.
I think it's actually a bad thing when I can guess 70% of the plot twists and reveals in a game because it's a spiritual successor to another game I was recommended to play first. When I can play the game for 30 minutes and correctly guess 'pink haired girl is a delusion created by the MC and she's the primary antagonist' maybe playing Chaos;Head first is a BAD FRICKING IDEA TO ANYONE WITH A BRAIN.
I recommend reading C;H before C;C just so you know who the Takumi you're talking to in C;C is, just how reading Higurashi before Umineko is recommended, so you know who Bernkastel is.
Shitty advice because knowing Takumi doesn't really make C;C better or worse. The only reason it would matter is if you're the kind of fricking moron who claps when they see a reference they know. However, your reasoning is better than the reasoning I was given, so I give you a pass.
Anon, people told you to read C;H first because the first minute of C;C spoils the end of the previous game.
Yeah, it makes C;Cs twists a bit obvious, but it's better than the alternatives.
Anon, my past isn't negotiable in the way you're trying to make it. I have a very detailed recollection of looking this up in several different places, as I really only wanted to play C;C, and didn't care much for C;H. The majority of the advice was to read C;H first because it explains the mechanics of the powers better than C;C does, and C;C would be extra confusing without this info.
That's not to say there weren't other opinions. Some did say to play C;H first because it gets spoiled in C;C. Some said playing C;H first was uneccesary. These were minority opinions. The majority opinion was that C;C is strengthened as an experience with knowledge of C;H, as people are overly obsessed with understanding magic on a mechanical level these days.
>Shitty advice because knowing Takumi doesn't really make C;C better or worse.
Takuru's idolization of Takumi and the parallels between him and Takumi are literally a central part of his character you dumbass >The majority of the advice was to read C;H first because it explains the mechanics of the powers better than C;C does, and C;C would be extra confusing without this info.
The problem isn't that the powers are confusing, the problem is that their reveal feels like an asspull if you haven't read C;H.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Takuru's idolization of Takumi and the parallels between him and Takumi are literally a central part of his character you dumbass
I don't agree the paralells are a central part of his character more than they are a result of C;C being essentially a spiritual successor to the first game. Nearly everything in the first game is paralleled hard in the second game, which is my entire issue.
>The problem isn't that the powers are confusing, the problem is that their reveal feels like an asspull if you haven't read C;H.
No. C;C does a perfectly fine job of contextualizing and explaining the powers in its own way. It was very much written to be played by people who had never touched C;H, and it works better as a stand-alone.
The real problem with the powers in both games is that the writers have no idea how to make a satisfying, or even convinving, plot at the power level the characters have. The vast lowering of the overall power level in most of C;C was also a bit of a disappointment in comparison to the first game, but I understand why the writers went that way.
Anon, people told you to read C;H first because the first minute of C;C spoils the end of the previous game.
Yeah, it makes C;Cs twists a bit obvious, but it's better than the alternatives.
The absolute worst are the western shit like DDLC and I'm Sorry Babe etc etc. I haven't really enjoyed any of the western friendly gameplay heavy VN's like Dangonrompa and 999. If we're talking proper VN's then Nekopara has to be the worst. It wasn't awful, but it's so mundane compared to the reaction it gets from your average moron. Princess Evangile bored me to the point I never finished it. There's some good VN's like Saya no Uta and Making Lovers that while objectively good were disappointing compared to how much they were built up for me.
>poorly written harem trying to be a war epic with shit ending >OMG EPIC FOURTH WALL KEKOLDING!!! >popscience harem nonsense >le funny rapeman
literally all kusoges. have a nice day my Black person
Bait.
Also, holy frick are you trying to put as many buzzwords as you can on your shitpost or what?
the first Somnium Files almost fried my braincells with its sheer amount of redundant flashbacks, especially towards the end. it would replay conversations that i had read just a few moments before.
i've never seen a VN that has so little trust in its readers. the second game came out and i assume it's just as infuriating as the first.
your fault for subjecting yourself to that joke of an author after ZTD.
>the fanbase is a complete cancer circle jerk
I started reading it a few weeks ago. I frankly don't really give a shit about the fanbase, I just enjoy it as it is. I agree that it drags on sometimes.
I was told that I would either hate it or think it's the greatest piece of fiction made in the last 100 years or something. That is wrong. I don't hate it, I like it, but I think that statement is way too much. It's good, I like the characters and all but it's not mind blowing to me. I have 2 episodes left to go through. I seriously doubt those 2 episodes will make me go "okay nevermind this is the best shit ever". From what I hear the last 2 episodes are shit.
The problem with Umineko is that it was an episodic release. You were waiting for a half a year to a year between chapters. So you went to internet to discuss everything about it, that was R07's intent. Just shoot the shit with anons, shitpost, make theories. So if you're reading it now that whole large part of what made Umineko great is just gone.
tl;dr you just had to be there
I got filtered after one route. I can't put my finger on it, but it's so fricking bland for a chuunige. I also don't really care about the carpet muncher MC, and of course they made the leader of the team some weird cuckhold fetishist just because. When I finished the route, I just didn't care to go see the others.
we passed some laws so everyone has to pretend everything is normal and everyone follows that law perfectly
the C;C syndrome patients don't know about it not just because of the laws but also because of the delusion from the syndrome itself
no other SciAdv story mentions that an entire ward in Tokyo turned into...
the only SciADV entry that takes place after C;C are the Robotics;Notes, and there's no reason why the R;N protagonists would care about the chaos child syndrome
Considering they got their powers from the modified backpacks from the first Head, I think they would.
>These accursed Western VNs are so poisoned with irony, it's clear they are afraid to like anything
This thread would have quickly died if OP asked for your favorite VN instead of baiting for negative responses.
This is Ganker after all, no one likes videogames.
Doki Doki Literature Club
You can really tell it was made by someone who's never played a VN in his life outside a couple entry level moege and the one he plagiarized of course
the first Somnium Files almost fried my braincells with its sheer amount of redundant flashbacks, especially towards the end. it would replay conversations that i had read just a few moments before.
i've never seen a VN that has so little trust in its readers. the second game came out and i assume it's just as infuriating as the first.
I just had tonal whiplash all game. I can't take murder or death being the stakes seriously when a group of paramilitary soldiers get distracted by a porno mag mid fire fight, or a character shoots a bullet through a spinning pipe in midair to make it ricochet into another target.
A game that mixed the silly with the macabre better was Danganronpa. AI just made me confused and not really care when people died because it was probably just a joke, bro.
yeah it was pretty bad in that aspect. most of the time there is no real sense of danger or urgency in the story.
also, the somnium sections could've been so much better. i feel like the "dreams" were too literal. they should have mindbending physics and weird events.
not a visual novel, but blassritter was made by nitro+ so close enough
i genuinely tried to like it, but it kept getting worse after gerd killed himself
Grisaia common route was kino. Sachi and Yumiko were good but generic, Amane was boring, Michiru started off good but ended up being shit, didn't bother with the annoying one
The only reason I picked this up because I remembered enjoying the Nanaca Crash flash game from literally 20 years ago. I tried reading the actual VN and it was absolute dogshit and I dropped it after about 3 hours of trying to read through the first chapter.
This is the guy with the dragon profile picture on youtube that made bloodborne/dark souls reviews right? I recognize the name but what happened to his voice. Did he start doing estrogen or something? I watched those videos years and years ago while working out and there's just no way I would have been able to endure a whiny voice like that. Unironically what happened?
Not the worst, but Utawarerumono Mask of deception was kinda shit. I couldn't play it for more than like 10 hours.
The original one was much better. Comfy setting, cool characters, great soundtrack.
You HAVE to be a raging contrarian to drop a VN within 10 hours, especially with that VN since it starts extremely slowly. All non-contrarians who loved the first VN also loved the sequels, and most of them preferred the sequels.
Besides, the things you liked about the first game are also in the sequels. You'll notice them if you didn't read the VN with a rage boner.
According to vndb, Uta 1-3 are 35, 37, and 53 hours on average respectively. I also don't know if they included the gameplay there or not. In Uta 1, it's quite fast compared to the sequels, not that that's necessarily a bad or a good thing.
Also, the war started quite fast in that game. Like literally after 3 hours if I remember correctly. I also hated that part since Nuwangi was basically a lost potential as a character. They could've made him a lot more likeable but they didn't.
If you actually read the second VN, you would know that the main story only starts like 2/3 of that VN and the prologue for the actual war only started literally at the very end of the second game, and that scene alone was better than any of the scenes in the first game imo. Though for me, the first game was good as a whole, not their specific scenes so it's not really a good comparison but I digress.
Now, I'm not necessarily telling you to go back and read the VN since it's not for everyone of course but if you really want to read it, you better let go of your rage boner and contrarian mindset first. You'll just have a bad time, and this is not exclusive to VNs.
5 months ago
Anonymous
btw you are not replying to the guy who said the vn is shit, I was just saying that 10 hours is often enough to judge since every time I tried to push beyound 10h of smth I don't like I end up not liking it even after 20h.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You should've said that then. I think my point still stands especially if you haven't read that much VN. It would make sense in other forms of media but I've read not just a few VN where they started quite slowly on the plot. Granted, I almost only read plotge so if you only read moege, it should be fine I guess.
the VN part of this shit is so bad. The terrible pacing and short length is completely covered up by the good gameplay. >oh no, a rape slime pit >save me, timed rescue mission!
the VN part of this shit is so bad. The terrible pacing and short length is completely covered up by the good gameplay. >oh no, a rape slime pit >save me, timed rescue mission!
The VN part is pretty good though. Assembler is a great idea, the city's atmosphere is hard to forget and the story really nails the past-present storytelling and manage to make you feel almost as nostalgic as Kou.
It's a straightforward story in a cool setting executed well enough.
On the topic of S;G0: Did anyone actually really enjoy the start of it, the first maybe 3-5 hours? The idea that Kurisu is dead and that Okabe is depressed, trying to live without her, or at least with this artificial reconstruction of what has some likeness to the real thing. Man, there were so many areas that the story could have gone in; the start actually made me rather emotional.
It's okay, though. The AI Kurisu went nowhere but we also got other forms of Kurisu if we were missing the real thing: Maho as a copy of her interests, and whatever her name was, who was a lookalike. I'm still mad at how deceived I was!
I dunno about worse game, but I remember really hating this chick's route from Hatsukoi 1/1 back in the day. She was so fricking passive. She comes from a strict family, so when her dad found out she was dating the MC early on in her route, he forced her to break up with him. After that, she was just really mopey and sad the entire rest of the game, and brushed off MC anytime she saw him. The last hour or so was just the MC motivating her from the sidelines to do well on a collage entrance exam, since she was so mopey, her grades were slipping. Five minutes before the credits, her dad showed up, extended an olive branch, and said it was alright to date her now. What a waste of time, she didn't fight for or earn that relationship at all.
dad realized his daughter was useless and now on top of that depressed. realized it was better if she had a boyfriend after all rather than be sad and useless forever. makes sense to me though it makes for a boring story
>MC gets two childhood friends and both of their routes are half-dedicated to melodrama about MC hooking up with the other one >retired actor girl is forced by MC to go back into acting despite how much she hated it
Pizza girl was the only saving grace of this VN.
Isn't this the one where one of the heroines is introduced as a girl who "makes a point to never sleep with the same guy twice"?
The one where one of the girls is terminally ill and only dies in her own route?
Danganronpa V3 was pretty boring outside of a few moments so that’s probably my pick, but if I could pick an individual section from a VN it has to be the Ange stuff from Umineko episode 4, I think that’s the only time I’ve ever skipped through entire parts of a VN just because it was sending me to sleep trying to get through it.
I've read Umineko, Higurashi and raging loop, enjoyed all of them
Tried subahibi and it managed to make me fall asleep on my night shift at work, boring as FRICK and apparently the whole plot is "it's all just a gay dream" with some schlock shock value
If it was an actual yuri VN with mystery in it I'd like it a lot more, but all the girls are just le imagination or whatever.
When you're unemployed and your time is worth NOTHING Vn's are a frick load of fun, I loved reading Vn's when I was a unemployed homosexual
I cannot waste my time reading hours and hours of inane shit like >What's your favorite flavor of miso soup >Why is the sky blue >Funny le sex joke
It feels like I'm fading away while reading crap like this, if you're a visual novel fanatic DO NOT get a job/social life, you will hate Vn's after that
literally OP's pic
the common route was so fricking BORING I quit right as the story was gonna get good
the big titty girl was in her room opening her heart and that's where I got fed up, only years later I saw a youtube video about the anime adaptation that showed she was about to tell me about how her classmates became rabid cannibals that ate people and had sex in the woods
>MC's loser friend goes from sacrificing his life for the MC in one route to beating him up and attempting to gangrape the heroine with his fellow losers in another route
Don't you hate it when routes are clearly written by different people who don't communicate with each other at all to keep things consistent?
Reminder that anyone who says FSN, S;G, Muramasa, Muv Luv, or Umineko is a moronic newbie who has either only read 2 vns in total, or none at all and is just trying to fit in.
I made it my goal to play through all 10 rance games as well as kichikuou at some point. I wouldn't say IV is bad but the gameplay is dragging on a lot. 01 and 03 were really enjoyable though
This pile of shit. MUSICUS! The bad ending where the MC knocks a girl up and then neglects her so hard that she walks into traffic and gets taken out was the only route that actually engaged me. The rest were just completely pointless.
>Brown haired girl's route is basically just you being frickbuddies briefly, it never amounts to anything beyond that and there was no deeper story to get invested in >Main girl's route is built entirely around her relationship with the MC, and it's genuinely enjoyable to watch them help each other grow as people, but then at the height of their relationship there's a time skip wherein they break up and then the story just ends
It's like the writer wanted a story about band drama but then also wanted a traditional romance VN and settled on half-assing both elements.
I just finished Steins Gate and it was enjoyable. Never got the Kurisu hype, though. Mayuri is best girl with Suzuha coming in 2nd place. I'm looking forward to reading Muv Luv now.
The closest thing I've played would be the story modes in ArcSys fighting games. By that merit I suppose the first Persona 4 Arena had a pretty weak story mode. There's way too much overlap between character stories, I lost count of how many times a few FMVs were replayed.
This entire thread is full of underage morons who read maybe a dozen VNs in their life and finished a couple of them after they became the hot new trend a few years back and think their opinions matter.
90% of the games mentioned are by far the most famous and popular and so far from the worst things the medium has to offer.
maybe a dozen Grisaia is pretty shit though it's better as a comedy SOL VN and all the other parts are fricking shit. The only thing from the non-common routes that are good are the parts that are just more of the antics from the common route and the e-girl's sex scene which is funny as shit
The fact that no one has said WA2 means it's that good huh.
Ive been meaning to go through it, how much of a pain in the ass is it to get it on the steam deck?
Alternatively I should probably give YUNO or Utaware a go
>The fact that no one has said WA2 means it's that good huh.
Actually, the more popular a VN, or anything actually, the more haters it gets. WA2 as a whole also has a lot of bad scenes. But yes, WA2 is hell good overall. I suggest watching the anime first before going into the VN, but still read the prologue regardless. I think the direction of the anime is better, and the VN just has more details on it.
Garage: Bad Dream >A man upload his brain to virtual reality >He's a tiny monster nside of this cave, he meet other tiny monsters. Because everybody are male, the social system of dominance and privileges are primarily held by the male monsters fricking this Lou creature. >Protagonist is forced to find the "Shadows" that are the only female humans here..
Muv Luv.
It's just a shitty edgy anime with ecchi. Literal seasonal ecchi anime tier slop that only appeals to otaku permavirgin scum. Unrealistic characters without depth or personality, horrible dialogue written by some shut in who doesn't know how real people talk. It's more embarassing to read than 90% of eroges. >hurr durr you're just a contrarian hating a popular thing
A few actually good VNs off the top of my head: Umineko, Higurashi, Ace Attorney, Rance (and a lot of Alicesoft kamige in general), the House in Fata Morgana, F/SN.
It would require an entire novel to explain why ZTD is so bad; You really should play it an experience it yourself.
It's one of the greatest comedies of our time.
But to surmise: >Uchi tried to be more "cinematic like telltale games" (yes this was his actual reason) >he did so without the budget to actually pull it off
The entirety of the animation for ZTD was outsourced because the budget was fricked seven ways from Sunday.
The jump cuts were extremely obvious if you ever look for them. Any time a character interacts with something in ZTD, it's always accompanied with a quick shot of the ceiling or something irrelevant. They literally couldn't animate them picking up a bottle, the locked safes, etc. >all returning characters undergo massive personality changes for no reason >as in complete 180 shifts (heh), or they become completely moronic when they should be experts at this by now >the plot is moronic >the plot is so moronic >the twists are tied heavily into the worst aspect of the game, the whole "cinematic" angle >unsuprisingly, it is also meme worthy >important plot points and loose threads from ZTD are flat out forgotten
>Can someone give me a quick qrd on why ZTD is so bad?
The words "alien fax machine" are used in the game unironically as a serious plot point
Among other things
No matter what you do despite all your shifting powers, the dog always survives in every single ending.
Him killing the dog was demonstrating that he has the power to change things that are otherwise constant.
Except they never really draw attention to the dog besides one shot lingering on him in every bad ending, so it just seems like he shoots the dog for no reason.
The decisions in ZTD honestly had me in tears the entire time.
You were consistently given two options: >The logical option that made sense >The completely suicidal stupid one
Then a returning character who has survived several death games before would for no reason demand you pick the clearly labeled "Button that blows up the facility"
I legitimately thought there had to be some plot reason Junpei became so moronic.
>You were consistently given two options: >>The logical option that made sense >>The completely suicidal stupid one
I felt incentivized to pick the stupid moronic options especially when I found out both the russian roulette and the dice roll(?) where it was 1/100 chance result gave you multiple branching paths on dumb RNG alone but it didn't feel fun.
muramasa
all style no substance and lots of text
I think Minato is a deep and well written character whose struggles resonate with most well meaning people. Shame you didn't like it anon.
it has been more than a year since i installed it and still don't feel like reading
only have like 1-2 hours of play time done
This one. Lots of pretentious moralhomosexualry and NTR with nothing to back it up.
>all style no substance
absolute midwit sentence, you've been filtered
danganronpa
Umineko easy. Biggest waste of my time.
This.
Every umineko people I talked with were unhinged, so I was curious about the VN, and it was one of the worst thing I have ever read, I stopped at chapter 2 because it was just wasting my time.
It's like Mushishi, Monster, Steins;gate or Evangelion, things for autists or underage people to circlejerk about because they think it makes them look smart.
I agree with your Umineko take but sounds like you are just a moebuta moron
>being too dumb for fricking Steins;Gate
Jesus Christ.
I hate stein cucks like you so much. frick off already, no one cares for your reddit ass story
actually the Japs do and the Western VN fanbase does, but please cope and seethe and tell me more about how "it doesn't count"
Your b***h tears are comedy
>lowest 0
I kneel. Good to see not everyone in nipland just eats up nitroslop
Posts like this invariably make the person look like a fricking brainlet who didn't like x but got the vague idea that it's smart so needed to work that into their "criticism" of it.
so post what you like then, gay
I can understand thinking that Eva and steins;gate is pretentious and overrated (Eva's still a masterpiece though), but the fact you called Mushi-shi pretentious probably means you're a brainlett that's never read a book not assigned by a teacher or listened to an album without some accompying activity like driving or being at an event.
>Mushihi
It's just a fun and comfy little manga. Don't bring it into this. Nobody claims it's a literary masterpiece lol
same. at least ost was nice
troonyNeko was fun.
Without love it cannot be seen :^)
Good to see this near the top. Umi made me look at actual plane tickets to Japan because I wanted to plant my fist into R07's face after sitting through that dreck.
Probably subahibi. I was promised schizo kino and all I got is y*ri pseudo-intellectual sol. Or maybe the worst one is VLR if it counts as vn. After awesome 999, VLR feels like a complete downgrade
The drawings of angels attacking him on a rooftop wasn't schizo enough for you?
I dropped it in the first chapter. Maybe I'll try again some time
OH NO NO NO You dropped it in the bait chapter you dweeb
ZTD makes both of them look like a masterpiece
Well yeah, it's one of the worst vn ever made
ZTD at least has comedy value, but yeah it's pretty shit too.
ZTD is overhated and is better than VLR though
If you take ZTD as a comedy then it's a pretty fun experience but taking it seriously I don't understand how anyone can say it's better than any of the other two games.
>akane the cold calculating mastermind who has seen millions of timelines and planned two nonary games turns into a yandere whenever junpei dies
>sigma and phi do nothing despite training the entire last game for this specific mission
>meanwhile this random fireman immediately masters shifting once he finds out about it and speedruns the game
>the main villain is slightly off screen the entire game
>also the main villain isn't the main villain it's actually this random terrorist mentioned at the end
>the decision game is just a bunch of arbitrary saw traps where your decisions don't matter most of the time
>also you control each team leader so shit like the execution vote or the acid shower button has no tension even the first time around
>eric and mira exist just to frick over everyone else and their characters don't go anywhere
>ending turns shifting into a moral dilemma even though you've been casually shifting all over the place this entire time
the cold calculating mastermind who has seen millions of timelines and planned two nonary games turns into a yandere whenever junpei dies
This shit always made me mad because she treated Junpei like shit from emotionally manipulating him in 999, giving him the cold shoulder in the VLR timeline, and then acting like a scatterbrained c**t in ZTD despite the implication of her having lived out so many lifetimes yet acting like an immature kid.
And then she has the audacity to act like she is a blameless victim?
Yea I mentally checked out of the game around then.
>also the main villain isn't the main villain it's actually this random terrorist mentioned at the end
You didn't do it justice.
The entire plot of all three games all happened due to a snail. The main villain's sole motives are to ensure that the chain of events from this snail remains unbroken, so that he can exist to catch the real main villain.
The current antagonist has access to literal mind bending powers, alien cloning teleportation machines, an army of killer robots, a quantum computer that lets him peer into alternate realties at will, and he can read the minds of SHIFTers who travel across parallel worlds.
He is so inept that despite all of this at his disposal he literally cannot find the leader of a prominent cult.
We never see the true villain.
We never confront him.
We never find out who he is.
The series ends with the main villain saying "guess you are really motivated to find him now huh :)" and then we have a cliffhanger.
I will never forgive Uchi for this.
It's also gay af
>Drop a 65 hour VN in the first 3 hours
Subahibi has a beginning that doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the VN at all, and that is debatably a big mistake (I think it isn't, but it relates to the ending of the VN), but you're a subhuman homosexual for calling it the worst VN you've ever read when you didn't even finish it. You didn't even get 5% into it.
>that doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the VN at all, and that is debatably a big mistake (I think it isn't, but it relates to the ending of the VN)
Worded that poorly, I meant to say that you only really understand what chapter 1 is about after 40 hours, and the other first chapters are not related to it.
Honestly, I'm glad it exists and it filters you homosexuals. Stay out of my medium. Get an attention span longer than a goldfish or frick off.
>I swear it gets good 40 hours in, I promise!
If you like this shit - good for you, no need to get this defensive
>when it gets "good" is debauched dog and father fricking edge
woah so deep
I dropped it after the table molester from his pov did what he did at the rooftop in front of the chuuni b***h. I too think its pseud garbage
i got to looking glass insects chapter which has been like maybe 20-25 hrs and its been utter dogshit till then and didn't look like it was getting any better so i dropped that shit, anyone who says its good like these morons are bait
Filtered. Maybe you should go back to Umineko, bud, and let the intellectuals enjoy true ludo.
>muh deep philosophy refrences that i dont even understand!
so intellectual
Literally filtered
Besides, even beyond the pseud stuff its just a fun and cool story.
>deep philosophy so you drop because you are dumb
Thats what make a kino a kino homosexual, stop reading VNs and go to naruto.
>Subahibi has a beginning that doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the VN at all
The first chapter of Subahibi is literally the most important one. Go reread it.
vlr only felt bad to me at first, once I got used to the 3d I ended up liking it better than 999. ztd though is hot trash, tried to get into it a few times, I just really like this setting/story, but damn, they should've stuck to the vn presentation style, reading a bit of neutral text is much better than having to stare at horribly acted 3d anime scenes for hours on end, really puts in the perspective as to why most poor studios who want to make an anime story game usually stick to the vn genre, trying to make an anime with no budget or experience is just sad.
Idk, I feel like basically half of the cast of VLR could be deleted from the game and nothing will change. The plot was somewhat predictable and a little too over the top for me. And I fricking hated route structure in VLR. Maybe it's just my luck, but I remember being blocked from progressing at least 3 times before I picked the "correct" route.
Forgot to add that the designs of characters are hideous
Even if you liked VLR, it doesn't really stand on its own. The entire plot exists solely to setup ZTD and we all know how that turned out.
Subahibi rocks
Like other anon said, you didn't get anywhere close to the good parts.
>subahibi
Isn't that the bestiality game? Why would you expect anything good from that?
No it's the hedgeclipper game
>Why would you expect anything good from that?
He probably knew more about it than a single image that flashes up for a few seconds in a 50 hour VN.
>Agatha Christie but the culprit is a troony
Umineko
Shoutout to that one homosexual on twitter that keeps avatargayging this character.
I hate him but I hate twitter more. Random nobodies constantly posting an opinions nobody give a shit about trying to GOTCHA everyone. Also I don’t play any VNs so frick you OP
Kill the princess
999
I honestly thought it will get better, since i got it gifted, but what the frick, it got worse every moment till the end
Then i looked up writer QnA and realized that moron didn't even tried to cover up every his asspull
At least now i know that if someone speaks good of 999, poster is ultimately moronic beyond saving
Here's your (you)
Fate Stay Night was pretty shit
But Muv Luv was abyssmal.
Fate Stay Night is my choice too.
There are probably worse VNs out there, but when I find them I stop reading pretty quick. I liked Tsukihime so I forced myself to keep going with FS/N, but it never got better.
Muv Luv is great though, frick you.
>people shitting on Muv Luv
Objectively wrong and you got filtered out from KINO.
>alternative garbabge
Only the original muv luv is good. Where my lacrosse enjoyers at?
Oh man I fricking loved these mission briefings. And the music they play during these.
You posted it.
It should be G-Senjou because of that moronic plot twist, but I still enjoyed it more than Fate.
Blackgate
Aokana
Oh boy, can't wait to read a thread full of people posting stuff from the top 50 slots of VNDB's ranking page and not actual kusoge.
Anyway for me it's this. Not really bad, just boring as all hell
All VN is kusoge because they aren't gemu to begin with
Anonymous;Code
What a huge letdown after the long wait
would you mind writing a few words about it without spoiling anything? story and characters are garbage in general?
Fate Stay Night. Literally just Japanese Twilight
shut up steins cuck
AI: The Somnium Files 2: Nirvana Initiative
horrible game
the big twist is beyond pointless
irrelevant side characters take up so much screen time
reused and overused gags
the villain is practically a non-entity
the somnium sections make slightly more logical sense than the first game's, but it's still just guessing most of the time. there is exactly 1 entertaining somnium in the whole game
I agree the twist is dumb, but I really kind of like how audacious it is.
Like the whole game has to be structure in such a weird way that no-one would ever reasonably do. And because it's such insane thing to do for a story, I kind of respect it. I don't think any other game or story will really have a twist like that. But again the whole story crumbles in on itself to pull that twist off. That being said, the game is nowhere near bad, nor is it in the worst 500 VNs ever made.
>It gets good 400 hours in
Like soap operas... yikes, nevermind
I mean Grisaia was so bad I didn't even bother reading the two later works. At least Umineko had good music
Maitetsu, it's just so god damned boring.
you got scammed by the gays, it's mainly a train nerd VN
the company pissed off the fans massively though with their next release so they're gonna probably die eventually
you played the Other M
WHERE'S THE troonySLATION
If something is not good 20 minutes in, I uninstall it.
hey bros, im thinking about playing tsukihime?
is it good?
Yes actually, and the OG is one of my favorites because I am around the same age as OG Shiki so the OG's 2000's setting really speaks to me.
I am looking forward to the Far Side routes to see how off the rails shit gets.
I would highly recommend the original first so you can compare how things changed.
I will admit original Tsukihime's music is extremely comfy. I could listen to it on loop (you pretty much have to since the game is long).
The remake has the highest production value of any VN though and it's worth it for that alone.
I went into thinking the worst
>OLD GOOD
>NEW BAD
>LOL FGO SHIT FOR ZOOMERS
and it still won me over despite the one of the key fights on Ciel's routes being moronic as shit. If they keep it up, I can't wait to see what's up with Burned Man and Spider Tiddies.
>The remake has the highest production value of any VN though and it's worth it for that alone
Mahoyo runs circles around it as far as production values go, though it's a really unfair comparison, admittedly.
I like to play these games as blind as possible.
I will play it.
Ty bro
based Tsukihimebros
I enjoyed it far more than F/SN, regardless of quality
I'm a simple man, and I don't play any NTR or rape games.
I only play moe and vanilla. Simple as.
Rance rapes all your waifus
I respect you anon but how do you not get bored after a while?
I'll boot up a AAA game for one minute and then I'll be reminded why I play moe VNs over most video games.
extremely based and comfy pilled. don't listen to the freaks. hope ya have a nice day and christmas!
may you lovely people have a blessed Christmas time.
we need more chill moe appreciators on here, like we used to. oh well, one can dream.
What's your favorite yuzuge?
The anime was kino though
Literally anything that starts in a school setting and only 20 hours later you get to the ACTUAL good part of the plot in a post-apocalypse or some shit. But the school is "totally important, guys!".
VN is plagued with some abhorrent tropes that are lifted from trashy romance self-fulfilment romps.
I thought Yumina the Etheral was quite fun on that aspect
Ayakashabito
Goddamn i hated Kageaki when it was about his mindset on killing and the whole talk about killing was just shit, at least chachamaru and muramasa routes were fun
ayakashibito was *FINE*
Like it wasn’t GOOD but it wasn’t awful
I think what really annoyed me is that i tried to force myself into continuing so i kinda started hating on it with no good reason, its my fault still can't help but dislike it
homies really get up and say "time for video games" before clicking an .exe to a 250mb virtual slideshow
I look like that and say that
My first thought was Muv-Luv, and that was ONLY because I managed to finally memoryhole ZTD.
I'm still mad ZTD was phoned in because the Uchikoshi got fricking bored after he begged the Zero Escape fandom to help get part 3 greenlit.
I will never forgive that frick.
Every year some anon makes a new twitter account to ask Uchi if he still remembers Kyle.
He gets blocked every time but I appreciate his dedication.
Man why is that so lazy. Just a white flash, 0 damage modeling on the torse from getting shot...
The entirety of the animation for ZTD was outsourced because the budget was fricked seven ways from Sunday.
The jump cuts were extremely obvious if you ever look for them. Any time a character interacts with something in ZTD, it's always accompanied with a quick shot of the ceiling or something irrelevant. They literally couldn't animate them picking up a bottle, the locked safes, etc.
Well thats disappointing.
Mother fricker also forgot about Blink Winkel after he had the audacity to bring him (You) back from time displaced jail.
Fate/Stay Night or Summer Pockets, no idea which is worse.
Not counting bad shitty nukige, but only "serious" ones trying to tells a real story...
Chaos;Head, Steins;Gate 0 and Subahibi are all pretty trash. Hard to pick among those.
>hurr durr all the highly rated good VNs are actually....LE BAD
wow a contrarian moron on Ganker, never seen that before
>le
wow a newbie on Ganker, never seen that before
moron
You will always be a newbie presenting nothing of worth to this website nor your external life.
My favorite VNs are Muvluv Alternative and Fate/stay night, both giga popular and highly rated. Stuff I listed is just genuinely bad.
>MuvLuv good
>S;G bad
hahahaha
HAHAHAHA
Original Steins;Gate is great actually. 0 is the most insulting low effort cash grab I've seen in the medium.
I actually agree but that's basically every single VN Chiyomaru made outside of Shits;Great. The man is just not good and got lucky one time
You convinced me to never read Muv Luv (as if I needed convincing).
If you like any of the 3 I listed, then good, you're a moron who wouldn't appreciate it lol.
Yeah I'm missing your palate for shounen slop
no one cares frog homosexual.
No one cares about Mub Luv. Enjoy the gacha flopping and the studio's bankruptcy which they said would happen if the Muv Luv gacha flopped
See I can be mean too
>Fate/stay night
Both Muv-Luv and S;G is garbage. Unless you like waifus, I guess. Which tells a lot about the type of individual who makes S;G and M-L threads for the past decade+.
>a moron who thinks democracy means good.
*tips fedora*
I liked Chaos;Head more than Child. But I agree that S;G 0 shouldn't exist
S;G 0 is largely shit outside of comedic relief, they only made it because S;G was lightning in a bottle and nothing else they made ever compared
It's why they're going bankrupt and trying to desperately milk the frick out of S;G
not video games
ITT people that only read 5 VNs
Fate stay night
no joke
muv luv is overrated, it's one of those things thats praised as being amazing because people thought the west would never read it
homie what, it's had a fanTL since 2011. Are you thinking of Muramasa? Dies Irae?
disco elysium
what's the best feet vn
Fruit of Grisaia is like the perfect example of how a lot of ero-VNs try to mash too much shit together
>Some boy transfers to a high school
>But this isn't just any ordinary high school, it's an all girls high school
>But the girls in the school aren't just normal high school girls, they're high school girls who are mentally unstable and struggling with deep seated trauma
>Also the boy isn't just any ordinary teenage boy, he's also a highly skilled assassin who works for a super secret shadow organization
A ridiculous premise can work with good writing.
Grisaia starts bland, stays bland and ends bland.
Sorry lads, the best among the best VNs are JOP exclusive and I really do mean this however, that'll be changing during 2024-2025
About 7 of the 34 infamous -and famous- kamiges are all scheduled to get TL'd in 2024 alone.
Around 8 of them predictably by 2025.
Not sure what'll happen after.
yeah... people in the west will finally play Rance 03 and Sakuroki - and realize they suck
kotori's route is great but dear god everything else is fricking awful
I saw the anime of this garbage and the school trip arc still stands out as the one of the most moronic things I ever seen in anime.
Saya no Uta and no I'm no joking, I just read it as an already matured adult not an angsty hormonal teen
Honestly, how would anyone fall for it?
Steins;Gate, it's just overhyped tripe for pseuds.
whoa, no fricking way!
kurisu is cute thou
Seconded.
It was boring and the MC was stupid.
>It was boring and the MC was stupid.
this sums up like 98% of VNs out there
cope, steins cuck
>He was filtered by Steins;Gate
How unintelligent do you have to be to not understand such a straightforward and clear story?
it's funny as frick when I see someone call S;G 'pseud' when the game never ever pretends to be anything other than pop sci and leaning in to it, such as the inclusion of urban legends like the IBM and Titor
it lets me know the poster is an abject moron
These are the same posters that think fateshit is intelligent, it's infuriating.
>liked Muramasa but too long
>liked Umineko but too long
should I bother with Fata Morgana, Kara no Shojo or Dies Irae?
if you don't like chuuni DI is going to be painful but if you think magical Nazis shooting beams at each other like DBZ is cool, then it's a fricking blast.
was hoping moreso for a high fantasy martial nationstate philosphy epic that takes advantage of the enormous storytelling freedom afforded to the medium
but it's low-brow 'im firin mah lazer pew pew' set to choral music?
>but it's low-brow 'im firin mah lazer pew pew' set to choral music?
Yes, and it's amazing. I had a good time reading it. Pic unrelated.
that is best girl
her route took me by surprise and is the high bar to which I compare every single Ojou type to, and they are all found lacking.
the fights in di are really bad. most of it boils down to ‘AND THE MC HIT THE OPPONENT HARDER’ because he has no powers other than timestop. for a chuunige, it was a huge disappointment
The worst one I read was Fata Morgana. After the utter disappointment of Door 1 and the horrible lukewarm edge shit of Door 2, I am convinced that anyone who likes that VN only enjoyed the music and the above-average sprite drawing, which are still shit because they have one or two reaction, making them shit. I refuse to read dogshit writing just so that the sequel has the potential to be good.
No, stay far away from Fata Morgana.
Are you serious? It was the most wasteful of your time since it had three mafia/werewolf games in 30+ hours, and none of the dynamics or whodunnit were interesting. Even the final one where you're finally the werewolf was fricking boring. To even compare it to Liar's Game and Kaiji is an insult to both.
Easily chaos child. First chapters are good and then some schizo shit with blades start happening and MC becomes more and more of a gay it's unberable. Also the "twist" of the main girl was stupid.
Raging Loop is the only one the I felt like respects my time while being of substantive length. Best "death-game" I've encountered in media over even Liar Game and Kaiji
I liked this, but I really wish it didn't turn into capeshit at the end after all the side-stories.
I do wish we'd get more Mafia/Town of Salem/Werewolf game premises, though. Was Gnosia was supposed to be one? Haven't tried it yet.
>that spoiler
hey, nice. I don't often see too many people who actually read the after stories and the Rev mode and understood what the frick happened.
It was kind of fun going back at and looking at everything Fusaishi decided had a logical explanation even if it was contrived because he believed it had to be that. Like the electronic door locks on rickety old wooden shack doors
For Raging Loop? Yeah, unlocked everything. Too bad I played it on the Switch or I'd toss a file your way.
did you do the new game + or whatever it's called? lost my save file before I could
>respects your time
lmao, VN went to shit the moment they showed that big spider and went full meta with the sheep. Don't even remember anything about the VN because of that, my brain just shut down and I finished it on auto pilot
Not counting shitty porn ones I dropped after 30 minutes, 11 eyes
did anything good come out in the last 6 months? I go through VN phases, and I used to go to /vn/ to catch up but I've found that place unusable for the last year or so. It's too bad too; I went there since the board split.
I could really go for some gameplayge like Uta or Amayui/Kamidori.
How is that Oshtor based JRPG they came out with? I slept on it because it doesn't have Haku and it's kind of lame to know how Oshtor is going to end up and then go back to play his past.
>try to get into VNs
>always get filtered by the first few hours of nothing going on that every VN has
Play Saya no Uta, it doesn't waste a fricking second, it starts interesting and doesn't relent.
>Play Saya no Uta, it doesn't waste a fricking second
except the whole thing is a waste
watch David Cronenberg's best films in that time span instead, much more rewarding
moron... he didn't ask about movies....
then it shouldn't have ripped them off
If it's inspired by anything, it's Lovecraft. But I'm glad you think some random leaf is so important that you need to bring him up in an unrelated discussion, good for you.
I'm not even bringing it up for its overall quality, he said he doesn't like the long drawn out intros that "all" VNs have so I recommended one that doesn't have that specific problem he mentioned.
>moron
don't recommend garbage VNs then
Play Sona-Nyl. This is one of the first things that happens.
I just hate the Steampunk series. Every single one of its games just picks the most annoying and pretentious way to narrate shit.
Filtered.
>oh this looks pretty exciting
>first couple of hours are fun
>slows down considerably
>homosexual characters are literally talking about the grocery
Ive never read a KEY vn which one should I read
Clannad. It's the most consistent of their works.
Little Busters! is my favorite, but every route was written by a different guy and it shows.
not as badly as Summer Hot Pockets. Game straight up has 4 pointless routes that mean and do nothing.
I liked Summer Pockets a lot, having it read it just this year. My only complaints were that the big sad ending scene in the true route drags out just a little too long, and Tenzen being an actual non-character. Ryoichi was comedic relief but he proved to pull his weight when the story needed it while actually having a bit more to him than his gag.
Have you read the earlier Key VNs?
I don't absolutely hate Summer Pockets like some people do, but I also can't see it as anything other than a much shittier off-brand version of the real Key VNs.
it's kinda weird, I was pretty alone in hating it early on I felt like. Everyone else seemed to like it and I thought I was in bizarroland. I guess some distance from the release and some reflection on older Key titles changed the perspective on it.
I have, yeah. It just leans into the Key slice of life/fricking around part of their games more due to the nature of the premise I think.
>tfw Little Busters is one of like three fictional pieces of media to make me cry
All of them in order. Until you hit the point where Jun Maeda left and they turned shit.
all the shitting on him and it turns out he was the secret sauce and now he's buckbroken into not wanting to do games ever again because of the gachashit blowback.
World End Syndrome. It's like it doesn't know if it wants to be a dating sim or a plotge, so both parts are fricking boring.
>Doki Doki Literature Club
I hate it, I hate the good ending and I hate the author gushing about challenging the status quo while making western irony slop. It makes me sick every time I see normies gushing about it on the places people discuss vns.
Doki Doki is better than Irisu and Totono
you may now cope and seethe for me
Reddit has very similar opinions, you might consider going there to find like minded people.
Reddit has better taste in VNs than 4chins. That's VNDB though, not Reddit. You seem confused. If you check EGS, you'll see that the Moon People have generally the same taste as VNDB westoids.
Therefore, I fit in, they fit in, but you don't.
Sorry, time to go, normalgay moron.
>reddit has better taste than Ganker
>calls others normalgay morons
lol. ok, Black person
pssst hey normalgay, this site isn't your sekrit klub and hasn't been in 10 years
fricking moron kek
>Reddit has better taste in VNs than 4chins.
That's a given since Ganker in the biggest part is the most moronic subset of reddit.
the blackest pill of all
idk how you can say totono’s sexual content is a selling point for it unless you have an unironic cuckold fetish. There’s just straight up fetish-level cuck shit multiple times throughout the game that is unavoidable.
Simple, he's a cuck.
only good answer itt
It's just babbys first fourth wall breaking VN
Totono for midwits and SJWs that think everything from japan is problematic so we need to whitewash it
A shallow, soulless copy of the original master work
Doesn't the MC lick her vegana out after another man creampied inside her?
>Filtered by a little cucking
Here are said midwits that can't appreciate a story without self inserting as the protagonist. Completely ignoring that was the whole point of the plot.
but my post didn't mention the cucking and was instead implying that the plot itself was moronic?
Why do have cucking on the mind, tardbro?
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed the cuckolding filtered you
I see now you're just a tasteless moron
>tasteless moron
but you're the one defending totono?
KEK
Having another man frick and cream inside your girlfriend is important to the plot?
If you aren’t willing to eat out your girlfriend’s pussy after she got creampied by another man, did you really even love her? Definitely relevant to the plot as a test of love.
>totono
>"master work"
lmao
lol
Muv-luv
I always hear muv luv gets good, but I cannot get through the fricking first game it is so bad.
Don't listen to stockholm syndrome cultists, muv luv unironically gets worse the more you read.
Doesn’t matter to me if it’s the best game of all time or absolutely terrible. I will never be able to finish the first game to know either way.
Muv Luv is not worth it. There are some really cool scenese but you have to slog through hours of the moronic mc repeating the same shit over and over. The epilogue is kino gotta admit that.
Bro, being here in 2011 when Amaterasu first dropped the games was god tier.
We also didn't read them back to back since there was the whole MangaGAYmer drama.
Not so sure I would ever recommend tackling all three at once.
Muvluv doesn't get good, it IS good. But only if you have shit eating grin from reading haremshit that occassionally drops sci-fi elements on you and shows you how things "already happened" and how each event reverbs in the alternative timelines.
I frankly can't stand the folk wanking to MUH ALTERNATIVE MUH DRAMA cause it's not the fricking point until like 70h in. You either like it or not, I liked it, I had fun with it. If you don't like it from the start, like at least give it 5h, then you won't like the rest. It's just that simple.
You had your turn, you don't like it, so don't play it. People who force themselves into playing vidya they don't like because someone told them "but it gets good 40h in!" are fricking morons without the sense of their own self that will listen like sheep to anything that was told to them.
reddits gate
umineko
muv luv
take your pick, quite telling that these so called "kamiges" are all from the top ten on vndb, which should tell you of the taste of western vntroons
>quite telling that these so called "kamiges" are all from the top ten on vndb
go check the top ten on EGS you fricking LARPing moron
LOL
egs is a bot farm and is unreliable. Same with chinks.
>n..no....the Japs don't count....Reddit doesn't count.....VNDB doesn't count.../vn/ polls don't count...only me and what I made up in my head with no evidence counts....
L
O
L
>BUT REDDIT!
>BUT /VN/!!
>BUT NIPS!!!
Yes. You don't even exist homosexual.
ACK!
this buzzword spamming moron thinks he has a point?
LOL
Everyone knows S;G is literally the only good thing Chiyomaru has made, as multiple people ITT have stated already you illiterate moron
>Chiyomaru has made
It wasn't even Chiyomaru, Chaos;Head and Steins;Gate are Nitroplus writers works
You know what, fair point. After Nitro+ was no longer in the picture, the games went to shit. Absolutely correct.
your bot is broken, bro
>NPC can't cope, starts spewing randomly
kek, I overheated it
Thanks for proving the point that S;G is great but all the other games they came out with after it were terrible and doomed the company.
pretty funny how badly the other stuff performed
redditcord woke up
>Refuse to make a direct sequel to S;G
>Interquel makes them money but they shat the bed with the ending
>Interquel anime lacks the soul of the original VN or anime
>try to ham fist SG characters in their other games to trick fans into buying games they don't care about
>Steins;Gate Elite didn't anime everything
>Confirm Zero Elite and then make a different game instead
>broke, bankrupt, and in danger of losing everything
they fricking deserve it, all we wanted was Okabe living happily ever after with Kurisu.
They deserved worse, they lost money just by being greedy. It was easier to make money and they chose not to.
Greedy would be fricking over Chaosgays by never making a sequel to that series, scrap all the other tales, and go full speed making Steins;Gate games and stories for 30 years.
Instead what happened was they wanted to make all these other games that were not interesting at all and then making the argument that if we don't buy them then they won't make more Steins;Gate content.
They were just arrogant stupid fricks.
They were so greedy they defy rationality. Thought that they can get 5 another IPs and milk them before releasing anything sg
>They were so greedy they defy rationality
I can agree with this.
Frick them.
Slay the princess is a recent one I disliked
Pseudo intellectual slop
>I hate steins;gate look how cool I am!!1!!1!!
Just admit it homosexual, it might not be your cup of tea but it's fricking great. Same with chaos;head
Today's suppa issu fish
>VN
>read
i'm not a zoomer
zoomer literally don't read tho, boomers tho, you zooming turd
Chaos;Head
It starts out as a cool mystery novel about random brutal murders with an amnesiac protagonist that somehow finds himself near the scene of the crime. It's pretty cool for a while, then it turns into dragon ball with anime women and it goes to shit
To be fair, how were they supposed to end it when the trajectory of the plot was tending towards more and more supernatural?
Also what's you're favourite Takumi scream, the one with the hand never gets old
You just put that fricking ringtone back in my head.
Thanks, butthole.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Did you know that the German word for smartphone is das Handy?
All VNs have the same fundamental problem that they are too fricking slow.
Is there any VN worth reading over a real novel?
Musumate
mad that you NEVER see a LP of a nip vn that isn't danganshit by a popular eceleb, but rather western atrocities. Funny how that works.
>why don't my ecelebs play text based games featuring high school girls getting railed on stream
>I don't get it
zoomermind
most of the games discussed ITT have explicit pornographic scenes in them anon.
FSN or GBVH, finished both out of obligation.
I've enjoyed pretty much enjoyed all vns I have read. I feel like if you cannot enjoy umineko, s;g, or muv luv it's because you forced yourself to read it when you were clearly not in the mood to read it thinking the hype would carry it.
These reads require investment for their emotional payoffs and once it clicks for you, you "get" it.
I loved the early chapters of Umineko but it becomes garbage by the end of chapter 5.
The secret to enjoying Umineko's later chapters is to be too stupid to solve the mystery therefore avoiding the mindset of getting too obsessed with the mystery part. That's what I did and my stupidity led me to enjoy it way more
Ever17's twist was FRICKING stupid to be fair, shat all over it. It was so much fun figuring shit out before that
I enjoyed the umineko later parts because i didn't give a shit much to the mystery i simply liked the autistic confrotations
I was in it for the use of the mystery to examine the characters and their relationships and shit from various angles it was great
>The secret to enjoying Umineko's later chapters is to be too stupid to solve the mystery therefore avoiding the mindset of getting too obsessed with the mystery part.
This was literally me while reading Umineko. I started to just treat it as a regular story which made the later chapters more enjoyable (although chapter 7 and 8 really tested my patience with how much of a slog it became at certain parts)
>The secret to enjoying Umineko's later chapters is to be too stupid to solve the mystery therefore avoiding the mindset of getting too obsessed with the mystery part. That's what I did and my stupidity led me to enjoy it way more
I just started chapter 6 last night. I'll put it this way, I don't feel too stupid to try to solve the mystery, however, a thing that deters me is that the game is just extremely long. I didn't take notes as I was reading the early parts of the game, and I started it over a month ago, so there's definitely things I don't remember. I also don't really understand how some red statements carry over through games, and some don't (but perhaps this is a mistake I'm making and actually everything is logically consistent)/
I didn't really like how the time I spent trying to figure out the witch's epitaph was essentially wasted and made meaningless by the characters just figuring it out in their heads, with little to no explanation, then reading books (that the reader doesn't have access to) to confirm, and then you don't get told what the answer even is. I guess the riddle really isn't that important after all, but I resent that the game presents it as something that you can and should try to solve. I also don't understand why Battler wasn't instantly made the golden witch (sorcerer) after he found the gold in episode 5. That's what happened with Eva in episode 3 (or 4? I forget). Isn't this inconsistent? Why does he have to fully understand everything to become the sorcerer? Eva didn't.
Also, about the Gold truth. At first I figured that the Gold Truth is a level above red, since Battler knows everything, he can definitely confirm which one of two proposed truths is real, however the other witches says sometime the Gold is weaker and sometimes stronger, then Erika complains and says she wants an explanation of what the gold truth is, but one isn't really given. I wanted to know too.
I ran out of text by the way. I don't really want answers now to the things I'm confused about, I would just like to know if these things are addressed later.
The solution to the epitaph is given in EP7. The reason it doesn't show the process to solving it is because you're not given the answer yet, not because it's made irrelevant. Also the books the characters check only have historical and geographic information if I recall, not any information the reader can't find out about.
Oh, right on. I thought it was just "done" now. My theory was that the "river"/"it" in these:
>Behold the sweetfish river running through my beloved hometown.
>You who seek the Golden Land, follow its path downstream in search of the key.
>As you travel down it, you will see a village.
is actually a road, a highway or something like that. So I figured I'd have to look at some maps and follow roads to something. You confirming that it's addressed again wants to make me take a look at maps and try to figure it out. Of course, I don't want you to confirm or deny it. Just wanted to share. Thanks for the reply anon.
it's impossible to figure out the epitaph if you aren't japanese or at least obsessed with japan
Chaos;Head Noah. I don't know how I made it through the first route
I hate a lot of the well praised VNs because they tend to be fricking shit for 90% of their runtime, but they're good because le epic twist happens.
Little Busters, Rewrite, G-Senjou, Muv Luv (Extra), Ever17, Grisaia and probably others I'm forgetting. They're all truly horrible to read for the most part.
Little Busters, Rewrite and Muv Luv are all good before the twist(s), no one is praising those just for some supposed twist. G-Senjou is good UNTIL the twist, which is moronic and the story immediately goes to shit afterwards. The others are just bad, I don't think Grisaia even has a twist.
The only Japanese example of what you're talking about that I can think of is Sharin No Kuni, but in its defence, that was a pretty damn good twist. Usually it's western "ironic" VNs that have a twist or a weird concept and nothing else going for them.
>Little Busters, Rewrite and Muv Luv are all good before the twist(s), no one is praising those just for some supposed twist. G-Senjou is good UNTIL the twist, which is moronic and the story immediately goes to shit afterwards. The others are just bad, I don't think Grisaia even has a twist.
based correct opinion
The side-routes in all of them are pretty bad.
Little Busters has one good moment, which is confronting Kengo and Masato (I think this is his name).
Rewrite's characters are so bad that I was completely astonished when Sakuya turned out to be my favorite.
Everyone but fanboys knows Muv Luv Extra is trash.
G-Senjou's true route is its only good part.
I don't have anything against Sharin no Kuni's twist, which is why I didn't even mention it. I don't think it's very good either, but nowadays almost nobody talks about it.
Who read Tokyo Babel? Thoughts on Not Araragi ?
dropped it halfway through the second route, was too boring
>Thoughts on Not Araragi?
making the main character bland on purpose is a fricking moronic idea and I wish writers would stop doing this.
Fate CCC fan translation is out btw
I always drop a VN if I feel it will be bad within the first 5 hours, so I wouldn't say those ones count.
If you dislike
>muvluv(kino)
>totono(kino)
>steins gate(kino)
and/or
>rance(kino)
You're a Black person, simple as.
Never ever post in one of these threads.
Also, you should consider killing yourself.
what is a totono?
>poorly written harem trying to be a war epic with shit ending
>OMG EPIC FOURTH WALL KEKOLDING!!!
>popscience harem nonsense
>le funny rapeman
literally all kusoges. have a nice day my Black person
I want to say, I'm not a huge VN guy (I've read some of the most popular ones, that's it) but the original Tsukihime is my favorite. Saya no Uta was my first but Tsukihime was my first long one and it gripped me very well. I've been wanting to re-read it recently. Hisui is best girl btw.
Who's your Utawarerumono pick, lads? For me it has to be Aruruu best girl 3 games running
Anju, of course
Kuon. For main girl to win that hard is a feat, for her to win so hard when up against such competition is amazing.
They're all so fricking good except like Ulthury and Fumirul
MANY manly tears were shed at that scene as well as THAT scene some of the most emotionally impactful fiction I've ever read
>Kuon
>win
Haku doesn't even exist on the physical plane anymore yet the twins are still with him. They won.
they have to sit there never getting dicked because his mind and heart are with Kuon, hence the epilogue.
I'm sure YOU like ball and wiener torture but that's a weird definition of 'winning'
The twins won though
Haku. I just want the dude to be happy.
Well people, when it comes to chuuni vns what would you recommend? Japanese only games aren't a concern, I loved picrel
you could play more stuff from the same studio, they made some pretty good stuff. If you want something that focuses on action, try Ouka Sengoku. If you want something that's mostly comedy, Yunibaru. If you want something in between, Maple Colors 2
that's a good idea, MC was a hell of a game. In good and bad ways
someone redpill me on Sekimeiya
is it actually good or not
I'll tell you why I didn't like it at least. It was written to be a mystery first and then have character second. Nobody speaks or thinks like a real human. Let's say Dude McGuy walks into a room and Gal O'Lass says, "Dude, over here!". The game would be like
>Dude saw Gal waving at him from the corner of the room but his eyes were drawn to the black smoke staining the ceiling. Truly, this celi...
>*insert 6 paragraphs about the ceiling and wall curtains*
>three pages later, Dude finally said, "Hello.".
It's so fricking jarring.
You WILL frantically scrawl detailed notes on how the pattern of mould on the wallpaper relates to every other clue you've seen thus far and you WILL like it
Yeah when he focuses too much on the mystery it sucks because the mystery sucks
yeah which makes the mystery reveal of dude it's more teleporting MAGIC rock dude infinitely more infuriating than when a Japanese game does it. When it's literal magic, trying to frame it as an authentic mystery goes out the window
It's a mystery written with an extreme level of autism. I liked it, but just as another anon said, don't expect good characters or prose out of it. But man, it gets fricking insane.
Literally every Nasu property I ever touched. I could only force myself through the UBW route and that was enough. Couldn't even get through a single route in Tsukihime because of how he has absolutely no fricking idea how to write human dialog. The description of what the character sees also sounds like a robot trying to analyze his surroundings.
>Oh, no! Heracles/Gilgamesh/Roa are so powerful because they're the true descendants of the paradox eclipse lunar mechanism and have "become" the true incantation of eternal stigma engine. What is Shiro/Shiki gonna do?
>"Turacu on!"
>*Takes off glasses*
Also everyone is everyone else's brother/sister/future self and they all got raped at some point. Fricking moronic.
Does anyone know where to find the JP lyrics of Sanctus, the Dies Irae ending song?
I've been looking everywhere and literally cannot find anything on it. I like to listen to it as I go to sleep and I like to know the lyrics of JP songs so it better resonates with me
Oh, you haven't played the Super Sentai themed Stryker? One of the best VNs ever?
Heh... better not show your face around here anymore, kid. This is where the pros hang out, and you?
You're not a pro.
That VN was so fricking stupid. I loved it.
Also horrifically depressing, surprisingly.
Probably Shironagasu Island, and it wasn't trash just meh. I don't really play anything that looks like shovelware.
>The basedbug's first instinct is to gape open its mouth when faced with a camera
Like moths to a flame.
I've not read a truly bad VN outside of porn, and I will not consider those part of the question.
Thus, my answer is Chaos;Child. I would like to give a special shoutout to the brainless morons that heavily suggest playing Chaos;Head before Chaos;Child. I am sorry they are so stupid they cannot understand an incredibly simple plot without first playing a game that spells absolutely everything out and spoils most of the spiritual successor/remake.
Chaos;Child is simply Chaos;Head with everything interesting and unique removed for the purpose of trying to capture a more normie audience. I would not consider Chaos;Head good, but Chaos;Child manages to be much worse.
The twist at the very end was maybe the most moronic thing I've ever seen in a published work. The antagonist's decisions were entirely non-sensical. Steins;Gate is the only good thing that company made. It's shocking how mediocre to bad everything else they've done is.
Oh and the route mechanic completely destroys any sense of pacing right before the 'big climax'.
>The twist at the very end was maybe the most moronic thing I've ever seen in a published work.
Your post sounds like a pasta but fricking thank you, finally. Someone with some fricking brain cells. They clearly ran out of time and went
>uuuh we out of time, quick need epic tweest
>Senri shapeshifted into a perfect image of Nono
>still has the skin condition
Did no one think this shit through?
No, they didn't and it was clearly bolted on at the last second.
They didn't which is a shame because Senri's route is the only one that isn't worthless padding.
I loved Head for the atmosphere but yeah child was by far the worst VN i've ever read. Reminder that the big reveal gets fixed like 30 minutes after it's introduced and adds NOTHING to the story. Add a forced sad ending plus route padding and you have a fricking shitshow, every sequel from this developer is a warcrime and I wish they never bothered.
Don't forget
>uhhhh we passed some laws so everyone has to pretend everything is normal and everyone follows that law perfectly
>uhhhh no other SciAdv story mentions that an entire ward in Tokyo turned into morons, which would be the biggest happening in the last 100 years
>uhhhh no other SciAdv story mentions that an entire ward in Tokyo turned into morons, which would be the biggest happening in the last 100 years
to be fair just like IRL I imagine the committee controls the media and any journalist who would try to talk about it to a wider audience would suddenly get the urge to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head. It's still dumb though because it would take just one gaijin to go
>WOW LOOK AT THIS GUYS
and post evidence on social media for it to spiral out of control
we passed some laws so everyone has to pretend everything is normal and everyone follows that law perfectly
the C;C syndrome patients don't know about it not just because of the laws but also because of the delusion from the syndrome itself
no other SciAdv story mentions that an entire ward in Tokyo turned into...
the only SciADV entry that takes place after C;C are the Robotics;Notes, and there's no reason why the R;N protagonists would care about the chaos child syndrome
>I am sorry they are so stupid they cannot understand an incredibly simple plot without first playing a game that spells absolutely everything out and spoils most of the spiritual successor/remake.
Imagine being too moronic to understand why people recommend to read Chaos;Head before Chaos;Child. You unironically got filtered.
yeah but chaos;head fricking sucks balls. I am literally the protagonist (long-time neet and useless person) and I fricking hate him. I of course don't hate him for being a gamer neet, I hate him for how whiny he is.
morons recommend playing Chaos;Head first because they find the powers of Chaos;Child too confusing unless they play an entire game to spell them out. I'm not a moron though, so I would have been absolutely fine with the way everything is explained in Chaos;Child.
I think it's actually a bad thing when I can guess 70% of the plot twists and reveals in a game because it's a spiritual successor to another game I was recommended to play first. When I can play the game for 30 minutes and correctly guess 'pink haired girl is a delusion created by the MC and she's the primary antagonist' maybe playing Chaos;Head first is a BAD FRICKING IDEA TO ANYONE WITH A BRAIN.
midwit-core post
I recommend reading C;H before C;C just so you know who the Takumi you're talking to in C;C is, just how reading Higurashi before Umineko is recommended, so you know who Bernkastel is.
Or you can just read Steins;Gate and never have to bother with other SciAdv shit again
why would you read only the worst VN in the series?
The worst VNs in the series are the two Chaos games, stop being a gay
Steins;Gate 0 is an order of magnitude worse than the two Chaos; games
Shitty advice because knowing Takumi doesn't really make C;C better or worse. The only reason it would matter is if you're the kind of fricking moron who claps when they see a reference they know. However, your reasoning is better than the reasoning I was given, so I give you a pass.
Anon, my past isn't negotiable in the way you're trying to make it. I have a very detailed recollection of looking this up in several different places, as I really only wanted to play C;C, and didn't care much for C;H. The majority of the advice was to read C;H first because it explains the mechanics of the powers better than C;C does, and C;C would be extra confusing without this info.
That's not to say there weren't other opinions. Some did say to play C;H first because it gets spoiled in C;C. Some said playing C;H first was uneccesary. These were minority opinions. The majority opinion was that C;C is strengthened as an experience with knowledge of C;H, as people are overly obsessed with understanding magic on a mechanical level these days.
>Shitty advice because knowing Takumi doesn't really make C;C better or worse.
Takuru's idolization of Takumi and the parallels between him and Takumi are literally a central part of his character you dumbass
>The majority of the advice was to read C;H first because it explains the mechanics of the powers better than C;C does, and C;C would be extra confusing without this info.
The problem isn't that the powers are confusing, the problem is that their reveal feels like an asspull if you haven't read C;H.
>Takuru's idolization of Takumi and the parallels between him and Takumi are literally a central part of his character you dumbass
I don't agree the paralells are a central part of his character more than they are a result of C;C being essentially a spiritual successor to the first game. Nearly everything in the first game is paralleled hard in the second game, which is my entire issue.
>The problem isn't that the powers are confusing, the problem is that their reveal feels like an asspull if you haven't read C;H.
No. C;C does a perfectly fine job of contextualizing and explaining the powers in its own way. It was very much written to be played by people who had never touched C;H, and it works better as a stand-alone.
The real problem with the powers in both games is that the writers have no idea how to make a satisfying, or even convinving, plot at the power level the characters have. The vast lowering of the overall power level in most of C;C was also a bit of a disappointment in comparison to the first game, but I understand why the writers went that way.
Anon, people told you to read C;H first because the first minute of C;C spoils the end of the previous game.
Yeah, it makes C;Cs twists a bit obvious, but it's better than the alternatives.
Thanks for the spoiler
The absolute worst are the western shit like DDLC and I'm Sorry Babe etc etc. I haven't really enjoyed any of the western friendly gameplay heavy VN's like Dangonrompa and 999. If we're talking proper VN's then Nekopara has to be the worst. It wasn't awful, but it's so mundane compared to the reaction it gets from your average moron. Princess Evangile bored me to the point I never finished it. There's some good VN's like Saya no Uta and Making Lovers that while objectively good were disappointing compared to how much they were built up for me.
Frick you, Emily is Away and Hypnospace are both God Tier as frick.
>Emily is Away
garbage
your taste? Yup, I agree.
Based, but only the first Emily is Away.
Bait.
Also, holy frick are you trying to put as many buzzwords as you can on your shitpost or what?
there is a second one?
Even a third one!
I think I'll just stick with having enjoyed the first one and reliving my junior high days.
Very wise of you.
hypnospace is forced nostalgia
>hypnospace is forced nostalgia
the frick does this zoomer drivel mean?
stop feeding the troll anon-kun
your fault for subjecting yourself to that joke of an author after ZTD.
I can't call troonyneko complete shit because it has good moments but it drags on like nothing else and the fanbase is a complete cancer circle jerk
>the fanbase is a complete cancer circle jerk
I started reading it a few weeks ago. I frankly don't really give a shit about the fanbase, I just enjoy it as it is. I agree that it drags on sometimes.
I was told that I would either hate it or think it's the greatest piece of fiction made in the last 100 years or something. That is wrong. I don't hate it, I like it, but I think that statement is way too much. It's good, I like the characters and all but it's not mind blowing to me. I have 2 episodes left to go through. I seriously doubt those 2 episodes will make me go "okay nevermind this is the best shit ever". From what I hear the last 2 episodes are shit.
The problem with Umineko is that it was an episodic release. You were waiting for a half a year to a year between chapters. So you went to internet to discuss everything about it, that was R07's intent. Just shoot the shit with anons, shitpost, make theories. So if you're reading it now that whole large part of what made Umineko great is just gone.
tl;dr you just had to be there
>this cope
theorize all you want, still doesn't salvage the awful writing.
Symphonic Rain.
Thoughts on Tokyo Necro?
I got it for free from a friend
I got filtered after one route. I can't put my finger on it, but it's so fricking bland for a chuunige. I also don't really care about the carpet muncher MC, and of course they made the leader of the team some weird cuckhold fetishist just because. When I finished the route, I just didn't care to go see the others.
Considering they got their powers from the modified backpacks from the first Head, I think they would.
>These accursed Western VNs are so poisoned with irony, it's clear they are afraid to like anything
This thread would have quickly died if OP asked for your favorite VN instead of baiting for negative responses.
This is Ganker after all, no one likes videogames.
Doki Doki Literature Club
You can really tell it was made by someone who's never played a VN in his life outside a couple entry level moege and the one he plagiarized of course
>plagiarized
point out one example but we both know this is where you either deflect or don't answer
Totono
>deflects, doesn't name anything specific
thanks but I called it that you would do this already
Schizo?
you don't get it Anon, everyone knows that Totono invented the concept of breaking the fourth wall
I exclusively play yuzuge
the first Somnium Files almost fried my braincells with its sheer amount of redundant flashbacks, especially towards the end. it would replay conversations that i had read just a few moments before.
i've never seen a VN that has so little trust in its readers. the second game came out and i assume it's just as infuriating as the first.
I just had tonal whiplash all game. I can't take murder or death being the stakes seriously when a group of paramilitary soldiers get distracted by a porno mag mid fire fight, or a character shoots a bullet through a spinning pipe in midair to make it ricochet into another target.
A game that mixed the silly with the macabre better was Danganronpa. AI just made me confused and not really care when people died because it was probably just a joke, bro.
yeah it was pretty bad in that aspect. most of the time there is no real sense of danger or urgency in the story.
also, the somnium sections could've been so much better. i feel like the "dreams" were too literal. they should have mindbending physics and weird events.
Grisaia Series.
Umineko by a large margin.
Not Steins;Gate
>dude just be happy
slop
love these dorks
DUDE just BE HAPPY and if you dont its your fault
not a visual novel, but blassritter was made by nitro+ so close enough
i genuinely tried to like it, but it kept getting worse after gerd killed himself
Play Spirit Hunter 1 and 2. They are good but they have jump scares so don't be a pussy
no torrents for 1st one.
Really? Kind of a surprise. You don't need to play the 1st to play the second, though. They're only tangentially related at the very end.
Is your PC decent? I found the Switch NSP pretty easily.
I have it, i got it from some torrent that is dead nowadays
mind sharing it on gofile or something anon?
Last time i checked the 2(two) torrents i found for the game were dead.
The one you want is Death Mark right ?
yep
too lazy to upload i know the one in this link work https://mega.nz/file/U6slGZqK#AMzOP2XtJmVZ1yYphxRW5r0BNV9b8dCMLDEBSUWcSJM
thx bro
Thanks for the dolphin porn!
Thanks OP, i going to play every game in this thread, you all have trash taste.
I just want more chuuniges is that too much to ask
I haven't read too many vns but i have not read anything bad yet, they only ones i have dropped are nukige because those aren't my thing
Grisaia common route was kino. Sachi and Yumiko were good but generic, Amane was boring, Michiru started off good but ended up being shit, didn't bother with the annoying one
The annoying one unironically is one of the only good routes
The only reason I picked this up because I remembered enjoying the Nanaca Crash flash game from literally 20 years ago. I tried reading the actual VN and it was absolute dogshit and I dropped it after about 3 hours of trying to read through the first chapter.
>has 3 different translations
>all 3 of them are allegedly dogshit
How did this happen?
Read the GHS kino then
https://archive.org/details/on-cross-channel/page/n1/mode/2up
STEINS;GATE
Time travel is the most annoying bullshit in any medium and can never ever be handled well.
>Time travel is the most annoying bullshit in any medium and can never ever be handled well.
Counterpoint: Bill & Ted
I just started reading Umineko.
Give me three huge spoilers.
Make two of them real, make one of them fake, don't say which is which.
Bombs in the food
Secret WW2 bunker under the island
Battler is Maria's father
I have never read Umineko and never will but I am going to assume the last one is fake.
Magic is real
Magic isn't real
Battler is gay
Just read.
Erika wants Battler's dick
Rosa wants Battler's dick
Ange wants Battler's dick
Kannon is trans
Shannon is trans
Battler is trans
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Anderson is a midwit just like you.
just wanted to post a funny vid, nothing else anon
This is the guy with the dragon profile picture on youtube that made bloodborne/dark souls reviews right? I recognize the name but what happened to his voice. Did he start doing estrogen or something? I watched those videos years and years ago while working out and there's just no way I would have been able to endure a whiny voice like that. Unironically what happened?
no lmao. i think he's using an old mic or has a different set up for streaming vs making vids
Hatsukoi 1/1
Class of 09
Explain why
White Album 2
Not the worst, but Utawarerumono Mask of deception was kinda shit. I couldn't play it for more than like 10 hours.
The original one was much better. Comfy setting, cool characters, great soundtrack.
I completely disagree, imo prelude characters were boring af.
You HAVE to be a raging contrarian to drop a VN within 10 hours, especially with that VN since it starts extremely slowly. All non-contrarians who loved the first VN also loved the sequels, and most of them preferred the sequels.
Besides, the things you liked about the first game are also in the sequels. You'll notice them if you didn't read the VN with a rage boner.
10 hours is more than enough to judge.
Yeah, if you read 5 short VNs in your life. Utawarerumono 1 is medium length at best.
I havent read many but all of them were over 40h. How long is Utawarerumono?
According to vndb, Uta 1-3 are 35, 37, and 53 hours on average respectively. I also don't know if they included the gameplay there or not. In Uta 1, it's quite fast compared to the sequels, not that that's necessarily a bad or a good thing.
Also, the war started quite fast in that game. Like literally after 3 hours if I remember correctly. I also hated that part since Nuwangi was basically a lost potential as a character. They could've made him a lot more likeable but they didn't.
If you actually read the second VN, you would know that the main story only starts like 2/3 of that VN and the prologue for the actual war only started literally at the very end of the second game, and that scene alone was better than any of the scenes in the first game imo. Though for me, the first game was good as a whole, not their specific scenes so it's not really a good comparison but I digress.
Now, I'm not necessarily telling you to go back and read the VN since it's not for everyone of course but if you really want to read it, you better let go of your rage boner and contrarian mindset first. You'll just have a bad time, and this is not exclusive to VNs.
btw you are not replying to the guy who said the vn is shit, I was just saying that 10 hours is often enough to judge since every time I tried to push beyound 10h of smth I don't like I end up not liking it even after 20h.
You should've said that then. I think my point still stands especially if you haven't read that much VN. It would make sense in other forms of media but I've read not just a few VN where they started quite slowly on the plot. Granted, I almost only read plotge so if you only read moege, it should be fine I guess.
homestuck
Majikoi.
It's not the worst I've read but Baldr Sky was carried by its gameplay.
the VN part of this shit is so bad. The terrible pacing and short length is completely covered up by the good gameplay.
>oh no, a rape slime pit
>save me, timed rescue mission!
The VN part is pretty good though. Assembler is a great idea, the city's atmosphere is hard to forget and the story really nails the past-present storytelling and manage to make you feel almost as nostalgic as Kou.
It's a straightforward story in a cool setting executed well enough.
>shitsfarthomosexualcringegayreddit;gate
On the topic of S;G0: Did anyone actually really enjoy the start of it, the first maybe 3-5 hours? The idea that Kurisu is dead and that Okabe is depressed, trying to live without her, or at least with this artificial reconstruction of what has some likeness to the real thing. Man, there were so many areas that the story could have gone in; the start actually made me rather emotional.
It's okay, though. The AI Kurisu went nowhere but we also got other forms of Kurisu if we were missing the real thing: Maho as a copy of her interests, and whatever her name was, who was a lookalike. I'm still mad at how deceived I was!
I dunno about worse game, but I remember really hating this chick's route from Hatsukoi 1/1 back in the day. She was so fricking passive. She comes from a strict family, so when her dad found out she was dating the MC early on in her route, he forced her to break up with him. After that, she was just really mopey and sad the entire rest of the game, and brushed off MC anytime she saw him. The last hour or so was just the MC motivating her from the sidelines to do well on a collage entrance exam, since she was so mopey, her grades were slipping. Five minutes before the credits, her dad showed up, extended an olive branch, and said it was alright to date her now. What a waste of time, she didn't fight for or earn that relationship at all.
dad realized his daughter was useless and now on top of that depressed. realized it was better if she had a boyfriend after all rather than be sad and useless forever. makes sense to me though it makes for a boring story
>MC gets two childhood friends and both of their routes are half-dedicated to melodrama about MC hooking up with the other one
>retired actor girl is forced by MC to go back into acting despite how much she hated it
Pizza girl was the only saving grace of this VN.
I know nothing of pizza girl but I found this image explaining everything.
Needs more pics of girls giving blowjobs, because I swear that made up a quarter of her route.
Maya isn't bad if you read the real ending where MC didn't push her into becoming a prostitute
She gets worse
Isn't this the one where one of the heroines is introduced as a girl who "makes a point to never sleep with the same guy twice"?
The one where one of the girls is terminally ill and only dies in her own route?
Yes. She gets pouty when MC points this out after she decided to settle down for MC.
>used goods
Flandre is used goods too.
Vampires regenerate their hymen
Yes and I take her virginity every single day.
A well written used goods that acts as a good friend in other heroine's routes.
>I had my parents died in an accident
>Gets the girl with death parents.
>Skip entire family interaction.
>Profit.
Doki doki and I'm not even memeing
Danganronpa V3 was pretty boring outside of a few moments so that’s probably my pick, but if I could pick an individual section from a VN it has to be the Ange stuff from Umineko episode 4, I think that’s the only time I’ve ever skipped through entire parts of a VN just because it was sending me to sleep trying to get through it.
I've read Umineko, Higurashi and raging loop, enjoyed all of them
Tried subahibi and it managed to make me fall asleep on my night shift at work, boring as FRICK and apparently the whole plot is "it's all just a gay dream" with some schlock shock value
If it was an actual yuri VN with mystery in it I'd like it a lot more, but all the girls are just le imagination or whatever.
When you're unemployed and your time is worth NOTHING Vn's are a frick load of fun, I loved reading Vn's when I was a unemployed homosexual
I cannot waste my time reading hours and hours of inane shit like
>What's your favorite flavor of miso soup
>Why is the sky blue
>Funny le sex joke
It feels like I'm fading away while reading crap like this, if you're a visual novel fanatic DO NOT get a job/social life, you will hate Vn's after that
i'm gonna start this as soon as i get a better grasp of japanese, what am i getting myself into?
literally OP's pic
the common route was so fricking BORING I quit right as the story was gonna get good
the big titty girl was in her room opening her heart and that's where I got fed up, only years later I saw a youtube video about the anime adaptation that showed she was about to tell me about how her classmates became rabid cannibals that ate people and had sex in the woods
For me, it's Song of Memories; a kusoge through and through.
>MC's loser friend goes from sacrificing his life for the MC in one route to beating him up and attempting to gangrape the heroine with his fellow losers in another route
Don't you hate it when routes are clearly written by different people who don't communicate with each other at all to keep things consistent?
ONE
Everything about this vn is terrible - story, characters, art, ost...
I think they just released the remake on Steam.
I'm aware, shiravune is releasing the remake.
Cranked many nuts to the hentai
All I want is a VN that doesn't have animeshit. How the frick can you morons stomach the highschool shit.
There are plenty of VNs with no high school
Name 10
Souten no Celenaria
Sekien no Inganock
Shikkoku no Sharnoth
Hikari no Valusia
Shiei no Sona-Nyl
Ourai no Gahkthun
Steins;Gate
Ever17
Remember11
999
Reminder that anyone who says FSN, S;G, Muramasa, Muv Luv, or Umineko is a moronic newbie who has either only read 2 vns in total, or none at all and is just trying to fit in.
I made it my goal to play through all 10 rance games as well as kichikuou at some point. I wouldn't say IV is bad but the gameplay is dragging on a lot. 01 and 03 were really enjoyable though
This pile of shit. MUSICUS! The bad ending where the MC knocks a girl up and then neglects her so hard that she walks into traffic and gets taken out was the only route that actually engaged me. The rest were just completely pointless.
>Brown haired girl's route is basically just you being frickbuddies briefly, it never amounts to anything beyond that and there was no deeper story to get invested in
>Main girl's route is built entirely around her relationship with the MC, and it's genuinely enjoyable to watch them help each other grow as people, but then at the height of their relationship there's a time skip wherein they break up and then the story just ends
It's like the writer wanted a story about band drama but then also wanted a traditional romance VN and settled on half-assing both elements.
never EVER EVER forget that the JOPs shilled this as 'a never ever kamige' after Mememasa was announced to get a translation.
LOL
>what if Deardrops but worse
more like mucus
should've just stuck with releasing GGN expansions if BokuTen nearly bankrupted them anyway
After all these years and Tsukihime's atmosphere has yet to be topped.
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I just finished Steins Gate and it was enjoyable. Never got the Kurisu hype, though. Mayuri is best girl with Suzuha coming in 2nd place. I'm looking forward to reading Muv Luv now.
The closest thing I've played would be the story modes in ArcSys fighting games. By that merit I suppose the first Persona 4 Arena had a pretty weak story mode. There's way too much overlap between character stories, I lost count of how many times a few FMVs were replayed.
This entire thread is full of underage morons who read maybe a dozen VNs in their life and finished a couple of them after they became the hot new trend a few years back and think their opinions matter.
90% of the games mentioned are by far the most famous and popular and so far from the worst things the medium has to offer.
No I just don't play shit VNs, so Grisaia is unironically the worst one I've read.
how many VNs have you read that Grisaia is the worst one?
The common route alone is better than a lot of things.
maybe a dozen
Grisaia is pretty shit though it's better as a comedy SOL VN and all the other parts are fricking shit. The only thing from the non-common routes that are good are the parts that are just more of the antics from the common route and the e-girl's sex scene which is funny as shit
most VNs are only in japanese language and/or have porn with little girls. Nobody in this thread know Dohna Dohna or Maitetsu, VN really bad.
Most people in this thread are clearly not fans of VNs.
The fact that no one has said WA2 means it's that good huh.
Ive been meaning to go through it, how much of a pain in the ass is it to get it on the steam deck?
Alternatively I should probably give YUNO or Utaware a go
>The fact that no one has said WA2 means it's that good huh.
Actually, the more popular a VN, or anything actually, the more haters it gets. WA2 as a whole also has a lot of bad scenes. But yes, WA2 is hell good overall. I suggest watching the anime first before going into the VN, but still read the prologue regardless. I think the direction of the anime is better, and the VN just has more details on it.
Garage: Bad Dream
>A man upload his brain to virtual reality
>He's a tiny monster nside of this cave, he meet other tiny monsters. Because everybody are male, the social system of dominance and privileges are primarily held by the male monsters fricking this Lou creature.
>Protagonist is forced to find the "Shadows" that are the only female humans here..
Snoot Game
Rate every single VN you played, placing Fate/Stay Night at an arbitrary 50
Muv Luv.
It's just a shitty edgy anime with ecchi. Literal seasonal ecchi anime tier slop that only appeals to otaku permavirgin scum. Unrealistic characters without depth or personality, horrible dialogue written by some shut in who doesn't know how real people talk. It's more embarassing to read than 90% of eroges.
>hurr durr you're just a contrarian hating a popular thing
A few actually good VNs off the top of my head: Umineko, Higurashi, Ace Attorney, Rance (and a lot of Alicesoft kamige in general), the House in Fata Morgana, F/SN.
Can someone give me a quick qrd on why ZTD is so bad? I played 999 and VLR and liked them but haven't gotten around to playing ZTD yet.
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It would require an entire novel to explain why ZTD is so bad; You really should play it an experience it yourself.
It's one of the greatest comedies of our time.
But to surmise:
>Uchi tried to be more "cinematic like telltale games" (yes this was his actual reason)
>he did so without the budget to actually pull it off
The entirety of the animation for ZTD was outsourced because the budget was fricked seven ways from Sunday.
The jump cuts were extremely obvious if you ever look for them. Any time a character interacts with something in ZTD, it's always accompanied with a quick shot of the ceiling or something irrelevant. They literally couldn't animate them picking up a bottle, the locked safes, etc.
>all returning characters undergo massive personality changes for no reason
>as in complete 180 shifts (heh), or they become completely moronic when they should be experts at this by now
>the plot is moronic
>the plot is so moronic
>the twists are tied heavily into the worst aspect of the game, the whole "cinematic" angle
>unsuprisingly, it is also meme worthy
>important plot points and loose threads from ZTD are flat out forgotten
>filename
fitting
>Can someone give me a quick qrd on why ZTD is so bad?
The words "alien fax machine" are used in the game unironically as a serious plot point
Among other things
What was the complex motives behind killing the dog?
No matter what you do despite all your shifting powers, the dog always survives in every single ending.
Him killing the dog was demonstrating that he has the power to change things that are otherwise constant.
Except they never really draw attention to the dog besides one shot lingering on him in every bad ending, so it just seems like he shoots the dog for no reason.
Then why didn't he change ZTD so it wasn't constantly awful?
His motives are complex
Yume Miru Kusuri
>this choice determines your ending
Which choice did you make?
The decisions in ZTD honestly had me in tears the entire time.
You were consistently given two options:
>The logical option that made sense
>The completely suicidal stupid one
Then a returning character who has survived several death games before would for no reason demand you pick the clearly labeled "Button that blows up the facility"
I legitimately thought there had to be some plot reason Junpei became so moronic.
>You were consistently given two options:
>>The logical option that made sense
>>The completely suicidal stupid one
I felt incentivized to pick the stupid moronic options especially when I found out both the russian roulette and the dice roll(?) where it was 1/100 chance result gave you multiple branching paths on dumb RNG alone but it didn't feel fun.
>don't drink the antidote, what if it's actually poison and we get double poisoned?
Ciel's route (2021) should be a case of study on how the capeshit disease affects VNs
>newbie reveals this was his first Nasu VN on accident
lol
that I finished- steins gate 0
otherwise fate stay night
SG0 is understandable
But FSN?
I didnt see much of it because I dropped it after a couple of hours but what I did read was just dumb and boring
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