I like Arcanum. Like the world, like the mechanics, love the writing.
I couldn't get into Underrail for whatever reason, it just felt exhausting to play.
>it just felt exhausting to play.
I agree. I have over 100 hours in the game and I haven't even scratched deep caverns. 80 of those hours were on one playthrough. I've also never touched the expansion. It's best suited to marathon gamers. Those who can spend a whole weekend doing nothing but playing one game without breaks.
They get a lot better if you turn off autosaves. Autosaving every transition is over the top. It should do it once every five transitions or something instead.
is there a recommended way to play this in the current year? I remember trying a few months ago even with the big popular patch or whatever and it was still fricked up, I forgot what exactly
Disco Elysium, underrails end game is terrible with plenty of opportunity to soft lock yourself
>need to do a bunch of random bullshit around the map to get to the final boss
>respawning enemies everywhere when the whole game up until the final area mostly doesn't
>constantly respawning enemies and the boss heals 200 health every turn unless you run around the arena and destroy the 3 tanks first.
The DLC is all excellent but the main game ending sucks so much dick I can't rate the game higher than 8/10. I finished it today but it would be worse than pounding nails in your dick without a guide and premade build.
>Didn’t manage the stacking Tchort debuffs >Got filtered by the final boss
Tell me your build’s shit without telling me your build’s shit
my first run I did my own psi focused build and didn't use a guide and just gave up because finding all the parts on a squishy build was obnxious. I actually beat it with a stealth crossbow build but the final area is still a boring slog and the final boss still sucks. You just nuke the tanks, kill the tentacles one at a time while peaking out of one of the closets and then you just wail-on the eyeball till it's dead, it's boring and it sucks.
The trick is to never go down to deep caverns. I've only completed the game once on hard. But I've finished everything prior to deep caverns on dominating probably five times.
>The DLC is all excellent but the main game ending sucks so much dick I can't rate the game higher than 8/10. I finished it today but it would be worse than pounding nails in your dick without a guide and premade build.
that is why most powah gamers finish the game at the tchort institute and then reroll
>The DLC is all excellent
Is it actually good? I played through the game but couldn't be assed to do the DLC with how much there was to do in the basegame.
>first time playing Underrail >never TRULY specialized in anything on Normal >only save from before DC was a lot of levels prior >get DPS-blocked by the final boss
Underrail is not well designed. I finished the game on Dominating later on.
Doing the mutagen puzzle is the only way to survive for more than one or two turns.
The mutagen tanks themselves require either a lot of damage to blow up or TNT, but you can't use the TNT if you aren't in stealth otherwise you'll just get battered by the tentacles all the way through.
What do you mean? The expedition doesn’t start until you initiate it, I did 80% of the game first then did the expedition with no time expiration issues
Did you steal a jetski somewhere else before beginning the questline at Core City docks? I think they're only hostile if you somehow managed to get a jetski before beginning the quest - which should be hard to do since you aren't intended to have one before it, though it's supposedly doable by shit like luring the Protectorate dock jetski enemies to a landing spot before killing the riders - and stumble upon Aegis base in the expansion area.
Also, even if you somehow managed to muck it up I think you should be able to join pirates and the main questline through them.
>I bought the jetski from the guy in Camp Hathor
Oh, I legit didn't know that was even possible. But still, shouldn't you be able to just go head to Core City docks and ask to join? I've never had the expedition crew leave even late into the game.
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I did talk to them and backed out because I was still pretty early in the game. I think that caused them to leave eventually. They are not at the docks anymore.
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Well that sucks big dick. But yeah, you still should be able to join the pirates and do roughly the same main story + extra pirate quests in the waterways. Assuming they're neutral you could just talk to Razor and ask to join.
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aye I'll try to pick it up again then.
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the have an in built check up on your character in the form of dialogue. When the chief asks you about your accomplishments to prove your worth it is some rough measurement on where you are progression wise in the main campaign. If you do not pass no timer or anything starts.
You must have triggered the timer. Even then it is stopped when you are not present in the expansion area. At least in the newest builds, not sure what it was upon release. Did you try the DLC years ago?
I enjoyed it but it feels like a third of the game is inventory management/vendor trash mitigation, and the oddities system is too needle in a haystack searching to justify going into 50 different out of the way dungeons that have no bearing on quests
>and why isn't it Underrail?
Because the RPG in CRPG stands for ROLEPLAYING. That game didn't care at all to explain its universe or any of its characters, so I didn't care to do anything but refund it.
>That game didn't care at all to explain its universe or any of its characters
But that isn't true. Were you expecting every character you met to vomit a 200 word essay telling you their life story or something?
>That game didn't care at all to explain its universe or any of its characters
But that isn't true. Were you expecting every character you met to vomit a 200 word essay telling you their life story or something?
Admittedly the lore in Underrail is initially a bit obtuse and you actually have to work for lore tidbits. In worst case scenario you can easily stumble into the final dungeon not knowing anything about what's going on, since the esoteric stuff is hidden behind stat and skill checks or the one long questline that you can fail which opens up swathes of lore and foreshadowing, especially if you do it before a certain point in the main quest. The beginning is also legit slow since everything up to Depot A is basically an extended tutorial where you perform meaningless odd jobs, and it's only after that the actual main story gets going.
Just smaller content updates and tweaks, like a hidden questline to advance the main quest without joining any of the Oligarchs. They're seemingly just working on Underrail: Infusion (new game) now. Can't recall if it's going to feature Hexagon or if they're saving it for Underrail 2.
The game is trying to go for a "hardcore" mentality but ends up just tedious, anti-fun, and forgoing QoL. I played ~80 Hrs, but I couldn't bring myself to finish it after the initial novelty wore off and theorycrafting autism got too obtuse and RNG-based. Shame really, because the game does have some brilliant moments, especially it's approach to solving problems and finishing quests in a multitude of ways.
I approached Underrail twice, always dropping around reaching capital city or something. It's not bad game but built with minmaxing in mind and this is something I don't like. It supposed to be "Fallout like" (the older ones I mean) but it forces you to pick skills from the start and level them and only them to be able to actually be able to put them in use. You can't just have few points in pickpocketing like in Fallout, you HAVE to keep pumping it points or higher level npcs won't allow you to take anything. You HAVE to keep pumping points into persuasion or you won't pass the threshold for checks, no more "pump to 100 like in Fallout few times and be fine for the rest of the game". Crafting is split into several skills and thus out of question since you need those precious skill points to be able to do fricking anything. And you can't even try anything else than what you picked from the start because of mentioned skill checks. In these both approaches, I made psionic character and every fricking fight played the same because - surprise, surprise - I would either cheese and play optimal sequence or get pasted across the wall.
I played first two Fallouts few times and always had fun. I tried playing Underrail twice and never bothered to finish. It's overrated game.
I was afraid of some of the points you made when I first started playing it, but honestly even squandering points into crafting which I never got around to doing), not putting any points into social skills, and just playing with a revolver, I didn't have much trouble.
Traps and bombs solve just about everything my little W&S couldn't.
Mine is Shadowrun: Dragonfall. I love cyberpunk in general, and Shadowrun's setting in particular just hits all the right spots. I got pleasantly surprised by the characters and the writing too. Shame that the character development and combat are kinda sucky.
I like Arcanum. Like the world, like the mechanics, love the writing.
I couldn't get into Underrail for whatever reason, it just felt exhausting to play.
>it just felt exhausting to play.
I agree. I have over 100 hours in the game and I haven't even scratched deep caverns. 80 of those hours were on one playthrough. I've also never touched the expansion. It's best suited to marathon gamers. Those who can spend a whole weekend doing nothing but playing one game without breaks.
It's the fricking loading screen. This shit gets to me so much when you needs to backtrack a lot.
They get a lot better if you turn off autosaves. Autosaving every transition is over the top. It should do it once every five transitions or something instead.
is there a recommended way to play this in the current year? I remember trying a few months ago even with the big popular patch or whatever and it was still fricked up, I forgot what exactly
Disco Elysium, underrails end game is terrible with plenty of opportunity to soft lock yourself
>need to do a bunch of random bullshit around the map to get to the final boss
>respawning enemies everywhere when the whole game up until the final area mostly doesn't
>constantly respawning enemies and the boss heals 200 health every turn unless you run around the arena and destroy the 3 tanks first.
The DLC is all excellent but the main game ending sucks so much dick I can't rate the game higher than 8/10. I finished it today but it would be worse than pounding nails in your dick without a guide and premade build.
what difficulty
normal
my first run I did my own psi focused build and didn't use a guide and just gave up because finding all the parts on a squishy build was obnxious. I actually beat it with a stealth crossbow build but the final area is still a boring slog and the final boss still sucks. You just nuke the tanks, kill the tentacles one at a time while peaking out of one of the closets and then you just wail-on the eyeball till it's dead, it's boring and it sucks.
>Didn’t manage the stacking Tchort debuffs
>Got filtered by the final boss
Tell me your build’s shit without telling me your build’s shit
The trick is to never go down to deep caverns. I've only completed the game once on hard. But I've finished everything prior to deep caverns on dominating probably five times.
Disco Elysium fails because there's no reason to do a second run, everything is the same.
>The DLC is all excellent but the main game ending sucks so much dick I can't rate the game higher than 8/10. I finished it today but it would be worse than pounding nails in your dick without a guide and premade build.
that is why most powah gamers finish the game at the tchort institute and then reroll
>dogshit moronium
Ok discord troony
>The DLC is all excellent
Is it actually good? I played through the game but couldn't be assed to do the DLC with how much there was to do in the basegame.
Yeah it's great, lot of lore.
better then the base. Really should have been its own separate campaign
>first time playing Underrail
>never TRULY specialized in anything on Normal
>only save from before DC was a lot of levels prior
>get DPS-blocked by the final boss
Underrail is not well designed. I finished the game on Dominating later on.
will you really get dps locked if you do the mutagen puzzle and blow up the warehouses?
Doing the mutagen puzzle is the only way to survive for more than one or two turns.
The mutagen tanks themselves require either a lot of damage to blow up or TNT, but you can't use the TNT if you aren't in stealth otherwise you'll just get battered by the tentacles all the way through.
Because I'm playing Fallout 2 having beat Fallout 1 today. I'll geto to underrail eventually but I'm shit at these games so I need to finally learn.
because I keep filtering myself at character creation.
I stopped playing after I realized not going on the expedition fast enough would lock me out of that quest line. I was having fun up to that point
What do you mean? The expedition doesn’t start until you initiate it, I did 80% of the game first then did the expedition with no time expiration issues
They took off without me and the ageis guys in the expansion area are hostile to me
Did you steal a jetski somewhere else before beginning the questline at Core City docks? I think they're only hostile if you somehow managed to get a jetski before beginning the quest - which should be hard to do since you aren't intended to have one before it, though it's supposedly doable by shit like luring the Protectorate dock jetski enemies to a landing spot before killing the riders - and stumble upon Aegis base in the expansion area.
Also, even if you somehow managed to muck it up I think you should be able to join pirates and the main questline through them.
I bought the jetski from the guy in Camp Hathor and explored a bit before hitting up Core City
>I bought the jetski from the guy in Camp Hathor
Oh, I legit didn't know that was even possible. But still, shouldn't you be able to just go head to Core City docks and ask to join? I've never had the expedition crew leave even late into the game.
I did talk to them and backed out because I was still pretty early in the game. I think that caused them to leave eventually. They are not at the docks anymore.
Well that sucks big dick. But yeah, you still should be able to join the pirates and do roughly the same main story + extra pirate quests in the waterways. Assuming they're neutral you could just talk to Razor and ask to join.
aye I'll try to pick it up again then.
the have an in built check up on your character in the form of dialogue. When the chief asks you about your accomplishments to prove your worth it is some rough measurement on where you are progression wise in the main campaign. If you do not pass no timer or anything starts.
You must have triggered the timer. Even then it is stopped when you are not present in the expansion area. At least in the newest builds, not sure what it was upon release. Did you try the DLC years ago?
I enjoyed it but it feels like a third of the game is inventory management/vendor trash mitigation, and the oddities system is too needle in a haystack searching to justify going into 50 different out of the way dungeons that have no bearing on quests
Yeah, underrail is up there with Kingdom Come.
dafuq is crpg?
dicky rpg? crashbanicoot rpg?
Isometric rpgs are for subhumans.
It's the other way around.
Subhumans are for isometric rpgs?
Only true humans with souls play isometric rpgs
It's up there as one of my favorites.
>and why isn't it Underrail?
Because the RPG in CRPG stands for ROLEPLAYING. That game didn't care at all to explain its universe or any of its characters, so I didn't care to do anything but refund it.
>That game didn't care at all to explain its universe or any of its characters
But that isn't true. Were you expecting every character you met to vomit a 200 word essay telling you their life story or something?
dumb zoner
Admittedly the lore in Underrail is initially a bit obtuse and you actually have to work for lore tidbits. In worst case scenario you can easily stumble into the final dungeon not knowing anything about what's going on, since the esoteric stuff is hidden behind stat and skill checks or the one long questline that you can fail which opens up swathes of lore and foreshadowing, especially if you do it before a certain point in the main quest. The beginning is also legit slow since everything up to Depot A is basically an extended tutorial where you perform meaningless odd jobs, and it's only after that the actual main story gets going.
moron
Was there any new dlc released after the expedition? I remember some tech city being shilled
Just smaller content updates and tweaks, like a hidden questline to advance the main quest without joining any of the Oligarchs. They're seemingly just working on Underrail: Infusion (new game) now. Can't recall if it's going to feature Hexagon or if they're saving it for Underrail 2.
The game is trying to go for a "hardcore" mentality but ends up just tedious, anti-fun, and forgoing QoL. I played ~80 Hrs, but I couldn't bring myself to finish it after the initial novelty wore off and theorycrafting autism got too obtuse and RNG-based. Shame really, because the game does have some brilliant moments, especially it's approach to solving problems and finishing quests in a multitude of ways.
Underrail isn't a crpg.
How the hell is it not?
age of decadence. soon colony ship will release and claim rpg of the year award from bg3
>soon colony ship will release
I wouldn't get my hopes up, just waiting for the inevitable delay
Ultima V
Utlimaballs V
underrail would be the perfect crpg if it ran at 3x speed by default
You can increase the speed anon.
i cant force myself to play this game, the setting its too depressing and not fun.
I approached Underrail twice, always dropping around reaching capital city or something. It's not bad game but built with minmaxing in mind and this is something I don't like. It supposed to be "Fallout like" (the older ones I mean) but it forces you to pick skills from the start and level them and only them to be able to actually be able to put them in use. You can't just have few points in pickpocketing like in Fallout, you HAVE to keep pumping it points or higher level npcs won't allow you to take anything. You HAVE to keep pumping points into persuasion or you won't pass the threshold for checks, no more "pump to 100 like in Fallout few times and be fine for the rest of the game". Crafting is split into several skills and thus out of question since you need those precious skill points to be able to do fricking anything. And you can't even try anything else than what you picked from the start because of mentioned skill checks. In these both approaches, I made psionic character and every fricking fight played the same because - surprise, surprise - I would either cheese and play optimal sequence or get pasted across the wall.
I played first two Fallouts few times and always had fun. I tried playing Underrail twice and never bothered to finish. It's overrated game.
I was afraid of some of the points you made when I first started playing it, but honestly even squandering points into crafting which I never got around to doing), not putting any points into social skills, and just playing with a revolver, I didn't have much trouble.
Traps and bombs solve just about everything my little W&S couldn't.
I love Nox.
I liked DC.
Mine is Shadowrun: Dragonfall. I love cyberpunk in general, and Shadowrun's setting in particular just hits all the right spots. I got pleasantly surprised by the characters and the writing too. Shame that the character development and combat are kinda sucky.
>character development
I mean mechanically, builds and stuff.