Whats your favorite Vic2 mod?
Im sorta basic so I like the DOD fanfork mod.
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Whats your favorite Vic2 mod? Im sorta basic so I like the DOD fanfork mod.
Tried this out as Moscow and couldn't justify a war, immediate uninstall. I hate when mods gimp you for no reason. I can't justify war on my neighbor because...?
Also it ran like shit in 1836
Yeah this mod is very larp, but beornia is fun on this mod
For me it's Victoria universalis. It does a good job of fixing the economy and the mechanics it adds makes nation building more fun and interactive. I recently finished a game where I did nothing but manage my industry. If I weren't so technologically illiterate I'd make a submod that implements those features for every other mod.
This. I played as Moscow as well and it railroads the game every step of the way. I then switched to Teheran and it's even more railroad galore. I never want to touch that mod every again especially since there is an HPM version of DOD that runs and plays infinitely better.
HPM DOD > DOD fanfork, its way too railroaded and they use I think its a PDM system? with different technologies and resources, its way too confusing for me
I had plans to play Thrones of Lorraine at one point, but unfortunately I only found out about it towards the end of my time with Victoria II. I'm simply too bored with the game for mods to spice things up for me after having done basically everything the game has to offer over a 10 year period of playing it.
Having said that, I still have a few ideas for mods I wanted to try making:
>mod that changes the base game to have fewer events, basically I wanted to remove most of the events that just gave prestige spam to certain countries like all the events Prussia/Germany gets that are just like "some philosopher figured out something, here's 5 prestige" because most countries that get them are strong enough as is and don't need the extra prestige buffs.
>mod that changes the tech trees to give you tanks much sooner so that people actually had a reason to build them. Maybe somehow tie Gettysburg: Armored Warfare references into the campaign, but people will probably hate that since no one likes cringepunk
>post-nuclear apocalypse mod where all the civilized countries are in Africa. Would involve heavy modifications to the map to increase the province density in Africa and decrease it in depopulated Europe, but making maps is my autistic hyperfixation so I'd probably have a blast making it. People would probably hate it because "muh wakanda", but I'm so sick of fighting every war in Europe and Asia that I'm willing to give Africa a chance.
>just a generic map mod to make province density across the map more uniform so that fighting wars outside of Europe is actually fun instead of just clicking on big-ass tiles and not being able to maneuver at all
I had all these in mind before Vic3 came out, but I wanted to see if maybe the community will jump ship to the new game before making them for Vic2
TNO ruined an entire generation of mods I think Divergences predates TNO, so maybe I should have said Kaiserreich here
>post-nuclear apocalypse mod where all the civilized countries are in Africa. Would involve heavy modifications to the map to increase the province density in Africa and decrease it in depopulated Europe, but making maps is my autistic hyperfixation so I'd probably have a blast making it. People would probably hate it because "muh wakanda", but I'm so sick of fighting every war in Europe and Asia that I'm willing to give Africa a chance.
someone has been making a mod about precisely that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/victoria2/comments/wo7w2n/the_world_of_the_last_lancer_alt_history_mod/?rdt=34574
That looks very neat at first glance, but after seeing how many mods end up having railroaded campaigns I'm kinda iffy with depending on someone else to make a mod. Despite them having a very similar premise, I really feel like the loose vision I have will only satisfy me if I make the mod myself. I'm very particular about major changes to the map being involved to truly get what I want out of this mod idea.
>I can't justify war on my neighbor because...?
Because muh narrative and muh event chains and you WILL read all the event text.
I tried doing it as Novgorod in that mod and its even worse since at least there's the excuse that Moscow is a Polish puppet, but Novgorod can't do shit either and they start independent
I first played Plantagenia and an event made me lose a war then I played Tartaria and got an event that deleted my country and army
Blood and iron.
>upsides
Better scramble for africa
Better cbs
More historical flavor
Alt hist flavor is at least pretty realistic
Fixes some balance issues
>downsides
Most games are pretty samey. Different stuff happens each game but not as much as vanilla
Mod doesnt get updates anymore leaving some things unpatched forever
My homie. I only ever use Blood and Iron as It's basically vanilla+. Are there any other mods that are similar? I've never used HFM/HPM, but heard they railroad quite a bit so I'm not as interested in them.
HPM is great. It has almost no railroading.
Curiously enough HPM is the mod I consider vainilla+ or a third DLC for Vic II.
I'll give it a look in that case. Maybe it's HFM that is railroaded.
>Mod doesnt get updates anymore leaving some things unpatched forever
Huh? Last update was in July
HPM
pros:
you support Grandi
makes all gsgsisters seethe
exclusive acess to the grandifa fan club
cons:
you have to play HPM
I like GFM but it's so fricking slow.
If it did not exist I would still play HPM.
EEM, mainly. Having an extra 20 years with working techs and so on makes the Great War period feel less pointless since you have some time to work on your country afterwards. It also fixes up some other stuff like China wars.
I also enjoy regular DOD since it's a pretty well-made scenario. Not a fan of the fan fork since I get SJW vibes from it.
It's pretty much HPM+ and a submod let's you make some wacky formable nations.
If only HPM would have continued development.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/bronies-crusaders
damn i thought this would be a mlp mod
im disappointed
I like EEM
I kind of enjoy Throne of Lorraine. It's pretty unique but also kind of crazy.
too bad they stopped updating it
It's a shame, they went all in for the V3 fork and we never heard a thing from them again
Same goes with HtA and they fricking halted development when Byz was about to get reworked HNNNGH
Yeah, I played Bavaria in that mod and it was soo fun.
CWE mod. I like the cold war mod even if its clunky.
universalis
Pop Demand Mod for me. It's how Vanilla Vic2 should've been
I like GFM
CWE by far and above, it has the most content and depth too a mod I've seen in vic2. Hopefully someone expands on it a little when the openvic stuff gets done.
the grand chud (until microprovince wank started)
crimeamod is pretty fun
>NOOOOO MY HALLERINO
Carlsbad is that you?
Yes, unfortunately Bulgarian gypsies blackmailed me into deleting my blog so I'm now a openvic contributer.
Carlsbad mentioned therefore gem
What does the grand combination actually do that is better than GFM?
I played TGC, GFM, HPM, CWE, I liked most TGC, CWE could've been better but is limited by the game itself, too much railroading and at the same time too little, world war 3 happens too often when it should barely happen
What are the diferences between TGC and GFM?
I see a lot of people playing the former nowadays.
The latter is a bloated gay reddit mod. The former is, for good and ill, pure autism
Can you give anything that is not buzzwords?
No
GFM Is HPM filled with bloat, TGC takes that bloat to cavemen to cosmos level
Explain.
GFM is made by a kvetching israelite who doesn't want you to be able to commit genocide because his grandparents died in duh shoah or whatever the frick
https://www.moddb.com/mods/resurrected-genocide-mod
Crimeamod forever and always
is it still being worked on? haven't seen anything in months
I like GFM with the fantasy formables submod, but the mod is painfully slow even on a good computer, doesn't help all new overhaul mods use it as the framework (such as Thrones of Lorraine). so HPM is still king for me but I modded some of the things I didn't like about it
Is there a reason why GFM is so fricking slow? Normally is not a problem, but playing an unciv nation is a fricking pain in the ass.
probably the amount of new events, decisions, and countries added
based taste.
The HPM fork might be the most "structured" of all the current DODR forks out there but the rework one at least tries to be a bit more fluid and flavor rich
Why does GFM crash every five minutes for me even without the genocide enabler?
Did you enable the dynamic flag submod thing? Disabling that was the solution for me
>download the latest release
>crash
>download the repo directly
>crash
I don't get it
I already played crimeamod, I wanted to play something else for once but fricking reddit mod doesn't want to work with my pc, guess I just have to accept it.
>removes Ukrainians
>adds Aromanians and Occitans
I applaud
I like HPMP, the recently added province selector with the supply depot decision makes army management so much easier
As default I use crimeamod because it´s simply the best. For modern day I use CWE.
I really want to keep playing GFM but it's still in development (and apparetly will be forever) and it's slow as frick.
I might have to get back to HPM.
I'm pretty torn right now.
Try HPMP, it’s mostly like HPM, but has a lot of more modern mods QoL features, and very good AI compared to HPM or GFM
you just play GFM whenever and update it when they add cool stuff, its not a TNO type mod with "new update coming out in 2 weeks", its just the modders adding new shit to the github everyday and one guy making a bunch of shit for X country
I understand, but if I come back to it in like 8 months I will probably want to use GFM and my old saves won't be compatible.
thats just a new opportunity to make a new campaign and experience all the new things anon
I dont do mods, only vanilla sex
Crimeamod
Victoria universalis
HPM plus
Blood and Iron.
how is the Age of Enlightenment mod? Ive always wanted to play something specifically focused on the 18th c.
not great
constant rebellions due to needs not met and your armies being full of red brigades 3 years after the start date
might be fun if you modded it to have soldiers in state capitals only
Very true the population is too low to support vanilla economy and military, also most of Asia has nothing interesting going on probably would be fun for multiplayer but otherwise it's not really an improvement on anything
HIP
GFM or Crimeamod.
GFM for flavor and alt his options, Crimeamod for an actual functional mod that doesn't run like I'm trying to play the game on a computer from the 90s.
How the hell can one man like both Crimeamod and GFM. They're the antithesis of eachother.
Why are people still shilling that infantile racist mod, Crimeamod?
Yeah! Merge all of Africa! Yeah! African-American Haiti! Yeah! Merge Russian and Ukrainian! Yeah! Epic expansion of le slavery!
Haiti is both American and African. I don't see an issue there.
>merges all of central asia because le bloat
>realises he's exterminated the tajiks and adds persian pops to tajikistan as a compromise, thus increasing bloat
crimeadev is a fricking schizo who justifies his decisions by rambling about bloat and then adds intercolonial migration, letting chinks and indians migrate to africa and thus add more split up pops, while also encouraging "le colonial bleaching" which adds even more separate pop types
You know colonial migration exists in vanilla, right?
yes but you think with a developer as obsessively and autistically obsessed with removing bloat aka things he doesn't like, he'd prevent non-primary or accepted cultures from migrating between different colonies
>"le colonial bleaching" which adds even more separate pop types
I'm talking about this, which is a major selling point of Victoria 2 and its timeline. I don't have much of an opinion on intercolonial migration other than it being historical.
it literally only happened in south africa and rhodesia and only to a small extent
there were like 600 belgians in the congo at any given time as an example
And Aruba, all 3 Guyanas, treaty ports, Malaya (including Singapore), French colonies.
Crimeamod has the Boer states start on the map in 1836 so you don't have to wait for them to spawn.
ok ngay
go back to /gsg/
your next line is "make me israelite" to iu
i don't know what you're talking about
i'm a v2geer through and through
>i'm not from /gsg/ i'm just from a /gsg/ splinter like t./gsg/ or /big/
and you are from a /gsg/ splinter called /vst/, big fricking deal
the world doesn't revolve around you autistic Black folk who refuse to use a basic functionality of Ganker because "muh general culture" (in actuality a symptom of /kspg/ esque stagnation)
well you are currently revolving around my non-replying like your mother revolves around my dick
whats the best mod to meme with oranje-rhodesia?
>DOD
Do it still have the Code Geass nation in South America?Haven't played it in a while.
Is there a decent mod that extends the timeline and adds new content for it now that Grey Eminence is dead?
TGC extends the timeline to the 90s
EEM extends it to 1956
PDM: Congress of Europe sets back the start date to 1821
Got tired of DoD, decided to check Trail of Khans
>Pic related
I will now play your mod
>kiev
it's a chudmod
>Danelaw not a satellite state of Denmark
>Roman empire and a free Byzantium co-existing
>Novgorod owns Finland
>Jerusalem
empire and a free Byzantium co-existing
1) that happened irl
2) that's not byzantium, that's indep gayreek states
Is there a SP mod that just improves the game's basics: AI, CBs, econ, parties, rebels, etc... without throwing in meme decisions/formation content and fricking pixel sized provinces?
HPM is the only properly balanced mod.
TGC
TGC mod team just exploded so I guess that's off the list
The team split over a mapping issue and half the team won't be working on any new updates because of it. (Possibly more then half)
Crimeamod is really good. Fighting AI is really challenging and game performs better without 300 different bloat cultures
>bloat
code word for not white/the autistic NEETsoc zigger dev didn't like them (see: ukrainian)
So he's not racist, huh? He just doesn't like em.
Check out the culture map of Africa or primary culture in Haiti.
>culture map of Africa
I agree, he should have separated the Khoisan, Ethiopid and Somalid peoples from b*ntu dogs.
>primary culture in Haiti
What seems to be the issue? Haitians are Africans in America, African Americans.
the problem is the african-american culture is the US one so you wind up with haitians with blatantly anglo names instead of Black personfied french ones
Names of the generals is your issue? That's even more of a non-issue than map colour.
yes, seeing a revolt in haiti lead by some corneilius deshawn unironically kills my immersion
Then you better not play HPM or you'll see orange Papal States.
map colours are entirely arbitrary, but you can't argue that haitians actually exist and have names that are separate to US blacks, crimeanon
*don't exist
i'm tired cut me some slack
Provide 7 (seven) peer reviewed sources Haitien Bantus exist and are ethnically different from USA Bantus.
if you're going into genetic autism and not cultural autism you should replace cultures with haplogroups you moron
Ethnicity is a combination of race and culture, so if one of these is different the ethnicity as a whole is different.
wtf is a “hatien” you moronic fricking third worlder. this website made a mistake letting you people in
haitien is the french way of saying haitian you uncultured americ**t
>bloat cultures removed
>kept in Walloon, Picard, and Occitan
I do agree that the African cultures were kinda irrelevant for most people and breaking them up into three or four main cultures would have been a lot more time consuming than just hitting 'replace all'. Anyway, as good as crimeamod is in places, there's a lot of brainrot at work.
Its really weird how this small group of shitposters desperately trying to shill this moronic broken mememod
Have you not considered it might just be people legitimately enjoying the mod simply because their tastes are different from yours?
Yeah, and all of them happen to share Crimeanon's beliefs re:race and culture
Being racist is fairly popular among people both on Ganker and irl. Not everyone is a BLM Ally like GFM players.
Yeah, but the kind of ridiculously petty racism (merging all of Africa into a culture he might as well have called Black person, removing Ukrainian because of the Russo-Ukrainian War) he embodies is very specific.
>slandering random other mods
yep you're crimeanon
Petty? Have you seen how well the colonial migration looks on the culture map of Africa? Boerstaats, South Rhodesia, German East Africa all show up real nicely on the culture map mode.
random other mods
>yep you're crimeanon
And yet you're the one with schizo theories about all Crimeamod players being an international clique...
>muh colonial bleaching
broken record
Yes, you'd be surprised people play the mod to experience its main features.
It serves no purpose for Africans to have more than one culture represented in the game, having multi ethnic Bantus represented serves no gameplay purpose
You say this but you would shit your pants if all of South America was represented by one “Mutt” culture and all of Eastern Europe was just a singular “Slavoid” block. Ironically that would be more accurate than all of Africa being le Black person xD
get a better computer thirdie
But that group you mention is racist.
Cool it with the antisemitism.
Crimea Mod, it actually has competent AI and you don't have iron shortages 50% of the game.
The Cold War mod
It’s bloat city but pretty much the only game about the Cold War that’s actually about the politics and environment and not LAUNCHING DA NOOKS
Trying to get into Victoria modding, specifically trying to add more flavor to the United States. Any suggestions?
Look up the "Many houses divided" mod and improve upon it.
It's honestly a briliant idea. Other than that you could look up historical US states populations and try to emulate homesteading by directing migrants west instead of east. The Illinois area also had a huge boom in population irl V2 doesn't come close.
An option of annexing Canada is always nice.
Modeling the importance of the Erie Canal and Mississippi would be good. IRL it was the transport ability that made the Great Lakes the population center of America for a while. In V2 there's no reason to build outside of the Northeast Coast
Haitian-style slave revolt in the Confederacy for wholesome big chungus r*ddit points
either have it as an alternative to the Free States of America spawning, or maybe have it happen within the Confederacy if they win the civil war
More options for US to take land in Mexican-American war; Yucatan and Cuba added as slave states; William Walker and the filibuster wars with the potential to add parts (or the entirety) of central America as states; Columbia and/or Canada in the Union; expelling remaining Euros from the Americas; possibly more expansion in the Pacific, so either Philippines and Guam, or potentially even the conquest of Australia and New Zealand; meme invasion of the UK, burning down Westminster as revenge for the burning of Washington D.C. in 1814, possible annexation/puppeting/dissolving
>Columbia and/or Canada in the Union
You could make it that taking Southern Ontario dissolves Canada in some way since Ontario is like 90% of Canada's population
I’ve always felt that it was strange that if the US ever occupied all of Canada in a war with the UK, they didn’t simply take it. Canada was a potential goal in both the Revolutionary war and the war of 1812, but they were beaten back both times. But if the US ever went to war over Oregon for instance I feel like they should just get all of Canada if they occupy it. Though that would definitely be a bit too exploit-y since the AI barely garrisons so I can see why people don’t make that an option very often.
The rainbow plans IRL called for permanently annexing Canada and turning it into a bunch of US states in the event of a war with the UK where the US occupied it. But the preferred plan was for Canada to be "neutral" (garrisoned by US troops as a guarantee that Britain couldn't easily ship troops over of course)
>Though that would definitely be a bit too exploit-y
I agree. I think the solution is that if the USA takes Ontario, they unlock a decision that gives them some infamy (maybe 10) and starts a war with Canada using the Annex CB. That way they don't get cores (since that'd be too OP) but they also don't have to spend the 30+ infamy eating barren tundra states
FROM THE ARCTIC CIRCLE TO THE ISTHMUS OF PANAMA
He's right though, crimeamod removed all the African countries so there's no reason to have them be separate. If the mod was extended I could see the reason for adding them but there's not. Indonesia is just full malay in tons of mods and nobody seems to complain about that. I do think there should be Ukrainian though since it's relative to the era. Maybe just have the culture instant convert if Russian goes Soviet Union or something. You could do the same if any African nations are released as well.
Hot take: "Ukrainian" as a culture should exist solely for lower class pops, because "Ukrainian" is a bastard language, a cross between Russian and Polish that was only spoken as a primary language by the lowest of the low peasants prior to the 2014 coup d'etat establishing it as the national language. All of the wealthy and middle class were speaking Russian. Therefore, if you grew up speaking Ukrainian, you would learn Russian and try to marry into a Russian-speaking family as a way to advance yourself.
Ukrainian speakers who married other Ukrainian speakers were hopeless low-IQ individuals. Over an extended period of time, as intelligent people born to Ukrainian-speaking families became Russian speakers, the Ukrainian-speaker population’s IQ just continued to drop. Language often causes these sorts of dysgenic effects.
So, let’s consider the IQ.
Belarus is a pure Rus' country. At an average of 101, it has one of the highest average IQs in Europe. (This is a better metric to use, given that Russia-proper has a lot of ethnic minorities that drive down the average.)
The Ukraine, meanwhile, has an average IQ of 90, the lowest in Europe (save for those countries with high gypsy and/or Muslim populations)
If we consider that about 40-50% of the population of the Ukraine is Russian (or it was when these tests were done), then you have that population of 101 IQ individuals carrying the weight of the Ukrainian-speaking population, pulling up the average. You end up with "Ukrainian speakers" having an IQ in the low 80s or high 70s, which puts them on par with Africans.
sounds like a load of shit to be honest
t. ukie stan
i mean him being an ukrainian is probable, but him being the whole country of ukrainistan is quite unlikely, don't you think?
Чyткa зa yши пpитянyтo.
They should be in the game as "Ruthenian" together with Belarusians and Rusyns because that's how they were interpreted in the 19th century. Then there'd be an event to split them into Belarusian and Ukrainian like you said. I don't know if that's how Crimeamod already does things since I don't play this game with mods, but that's how I'd do it.
No he doesn't have that but that's sounds like it would work
sounds fricking stupid to be honest
I like New Era Mod, it has a setting close enough to CWE/Modern Age without the jank, lag and shitty economies, you can just jump in and go to war
the cold war one, even though it's buggy as shit
of course its vanilla
I just want a mod that expands on Greece, Megali Idea, the Balkan wars etc. without devolving into byzamemes
Which of the big overhaul mods is best for that?
Crimesmod
What's wrong with Greeks continuing their own identity based on a country that stopped existing 4 centuries prior? How is it any more of a meme than adopting a completely new identity invented by the British based on an antique larp?
Are you referring to Belgium?
No, i'm talking about the Mediterranean protobelgium also known as Greece.
when you learn about history and politics from Ganker and reddit
you forgot to throw the term esl in there somewhere
Because Greeks just didn't identify that way. You can go all the way back to Anna Komnene and even she brags about how hellenic she is and says how she's read all the classics. That is to say, even the Byzantine Greeks themselves considered themselves Greek. It's not even a larp, Greek's ancient cultural history is just deeply popular among Greeks, even when they were also Romans.
It also doesn't even make sense in context. The Greek Revolution was a nationalist revolution, "rhomaioi" nationalism doesn't even make sense. The Roman Empire was inherently anti-nationalist. To revive Byzantium would mean a multinational, christian monarchy of greek-speakers ruling over whoever happened to inhabit the territory, like setting up the Ottoman Empire with a cross on the flag instead. Even the originators of the Megali idea themselves didn't want that. Greece was the nation of Greeks for Greeks and Constantinople, Smyrna, etc. were Greek national territory in their eyes.
so yeah, it's a complete meme. If you're going to restore grobhelleniums, just go balls to the wall and make the name GREECE span the Aegean and run all the way to Trebizond, not some fake roman shit that nobody wanted. Even if you're some kind of time traveler light novel protagonist who throws a middle finger up to all the great powers at once and refuses their support, goes apeshit on the Turks and somehow wins, you still wouldn't crown yourself Basileus because everyone would laugh at you. It'd be like Ataturk giving himself the title of Khagan.
Is AoE good tho?
do you guys ever had any interesting ideas for alt hist mods for vicky?