Shadowlands was hot garbage but it did give me Ardenweald which instantly became my new favorite zone the second I set foot in it.
Before SL it was probably Valley of the Four Winds
Tirisfal Glades, Durotar, Gnome and Dwarf starting area, Burning Steppes, Un'Goro, the place below the shimmering flats, the place east of thousand needles, the barrens, the place near booty bay
Stranglethorn. Booty Bay is my favorite city in the game.
Drustvar, Vashj'ir, Shadowmoon Valley WoD, Duskwood, Valley of the Four Winds, and Zuldazar are also great.
>Teldrassil was my first contact with WoW
This. It's so dark and densely forested with verticality and caves and a variety of fantastic inhabitants from demons to furbolgs to giant spiders to stalking panthers to monstrous elementals. And the music is heartbreakingly beautiful and haunting. The whole thing just engulfs you - swallows you whole into another world.
Undead and Dorf starting areas are pretty compelling too, but I think Tirisfal is too dark and miserable, and Dun Murogh(?) doesn't have the same magical fantasy feeling, although the snowy mountains are kino.
Grizzly Hills
honestly Northrend in general is incredibly kino and fun to just frick around in. Dragonblight and Icecrown are the only two I think are mediocre
It's technically a dungeon but inner maraudon was my favorite because of the water falls, color scheme, and theme. Out of all the places in WoW, it really felt the most pure I guess.
Old Ashenvale will always hold a special place just because that's where I leveled in OG and all the ganking and pvp that took place.
I always forget that place even exists
In hindsight it is pretty cool though, wish they did more with the Wildhammer city
I second this. Always had to go there for the ZF egg quest and had the best outdoor dungeon. Wildhammer got crapped on though. Only show up there and once in TBC.
I can never remember how the frick you get to hinterlands. Like there's a tunnel or something or you can follow a river and I think there's also a path from the plaguelands? I never remember.
there's a tunnel from Arathi Highlands, a path near Durnhold keep in Hillsbrad, or another Tunnel from the plaguelands IIRC.
I always forget that place even exists
In hindsight it is pretty cool though, wish they did more with the Wildhammer city
it's fitting ironically enough given it was supposed to be the middle of bumfrick nowhere which is why the Wildhammer fled there, and there are still high elves and forest trolls running about. But yeah the writers basically forget to connect it with other regions in any meaningful way and you only went there by accident or by a bread crumb quest
I remember on cata's launch Vashjir was buggy as frick and like half the quests barely worked. I think it took me like a week to make it through that zone and I was really behind in my guild because damn near everyone did Hyjal instead. It really wasn't worth doing Vashjir over Hyjal honestly, especially when they added Firelands and you needed to do Hyjal to access the dailies.
The two quests I got stuck on the hardest in Vashjir was this one quest inside the giant clam where you had to break these quest nodes, and the nodes just didn't respawn so I couldn't complete it until the server reset.
The other one was that one quest near the VERY end of the zone where you're in a submarine. All you had to do was watch some dialogue play out but the submarine was bugged and kept activating the fatigue bar so I kept dying inside it.
Fun fact. The final quest in Vashjir is STILL bugged so they just made it a talk quest. Same goes for Gilneas penultimate quest that is also bugged so vehicle kills dont count so you have to manually kill 100 homosexuals traveling in huge packs and 3 elites while being level 19
Yeah that doesn't surprise me at all. Blizzard's policy on broken quests from old expansions was always to either just fricking delete it or make players deal with it. They don't care to fix it and they don't know how to fix it.
And yeah frick vehicle quests. As bad as that Worgen quest sounds (I know the one you're talking about didn't know it broke though) some of those vehicle quests are easier to beat without the fricking vehicle because they're always fricking gimped and underpowered compared to your normal abilities. Like I know there's one quest in Westfall where you have to use some vehicle to destroy harvest watchers but it's slower at killing them than just using your normal abilities, which is why the quest specifies that you have to kill them using the vehicle because frick you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is that still the case? I imagine it would be harder after heirlooms got fricked because of kharazhan solo xp farm. Now quest blues are unironically better and heirlooms still cost a fortune to upgrade
Back when Cata released I made a DK, finished the questline, learnt flying and ran into Deathwing. Flew right to his fire for the achievement but it did nothing.
>Cata release day >Server crashed while I was on the boat >Logged back in and I was a mile away from anything and had to swim to where the boat was supposed to sink
Frick you, blizzard
they apparently did some event for the undead to reclaim UC in one of the latest patches I guess. though idk what that means in practice I just caught that tidbit in another thread
they apparently did some event for the undead to reclaim UC in one of the latest patches I guess. though idk what that means in practice I just caught that tidbit in another thread
Atm they are in the process of being rebuilt and fixed up. It may be an ongoing thing that happens over the course of the next expansion but who knows. It also looks like the upper part of Undercity may actually be turned into a city.
>Here is Lillian Voss >lets make it very VERY clear she has some kind of super powers and she is gonna be important >explain her powers? develop her? naw. >lets mostly ignore her. Use he as some kind of npc follower you can get on your team. >Ok lets bring her back to being apart of the game....but lets just ignore the thing that made her stand out. She is now just a undead rogue. >oh yea she is supposed to be important and we are putting slyvanas behind some glass...i guess she can be the leader.
No one remembers Gunther Arcanus. >there on an island in the middle of a lake in Tirisfal since vanilla >described as a powerful lich, despite just being an undead mage >quest involved recruiting him into the Forsaken after his old friend Benthor realizes its him >never fricking heard of ever again, having an actual lich in the Forsaken ranks would've been great but Blizzard remembers jack shit about their own world
Though with how the lore eventually got, maybe it's best he didn't deal with Sylvannas bullshit.
Blizzard has blundered so many characters/plot lines so they can keep the spot light on the main WC3 characters.
Then for the WC3 characters they keep them around so they can milk that nostalgia....and try their hardest to ruin them. Some how Illidan Smugged his was though their bullshit and Garrosh just noped the frick out.
Cata and MoP WAS when they put more focus on side/new characters.
WoD was when they went running back to the WC1-3 cast and have not stopped since. They also killed of Garrosh.
Legion was filled with 'member berries and revolved around Illidan coming back from the dead to save WoW.
BFA actually did have new characters and some I even like would like to be a part of the story. Too bad after a while it went right back to "hey guys...War...craft...3"
Shadowlands launch content was fricking filled to the brim with Nostalgia pandering hidden in every fricking corner, and nothing else. The whole story once again revolved around the WC3 characters. Thrall is the Not Warchief of the Orcs. Jaina is a hippy. Sylvanas is a person who was manipulated and is now free and must redeem herself. Tyrande got shafted the worse because she is the only one that really changed much from the end of WC3. She is still the same boring semi b***hty character, but with no tree and knows he godess is a moron.
>Shadowlands launch content
where?
also there was kael thas and vashj and that was it. kel thuzad was in 9.1
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hakkar, ZulJin, Uther, Ursoc, the list goes on and on of various little references that just amount to "hey you memeber this" and then they moved on. They put absolutely 0 effort in to most of them but they are there if you take the time to look at some of the NPCs around the zones.
Battle for Azeroth
but frankly speaking everyone who cares about the lore should just pretend the game ended with Legion.
You should have stopped caring about the lore in WoD. Everything before was fine. Yes, even MoP. It expanded the world/lore in a good way. Them dropping the idea of Aspects being a thing was stupid, but everything else about Cata was fine to great. Really the biggest let down about Cata is we SHOULD have got more.
Then there is WoD. Introducing AU/ATs is a mistake 90% of the time and just leads a lazy reason to bring back characters. Gul Dan. Now the idea of "hey why don't we get back up from these other universes" is always there. We KNOW the door is not closed. AU Yrel is gonna come purge some heritics sooner or later. Horde even has AU Orcs on their side. It was also a glorified movie tie in that was gutted the moment the movie was not gonna spawn a franchise. AUs existing in lore just makes it so nothing really matters or they have to pump the power levels up to such levels that is not seen outside of the yearly events in western cape comics.
>This Super Void Lord is a threat to the multiverse! >You will beat it to death with glowing things. The exact same way you killed some random pig men out in the middle of a fricking desert. Same way you killed druid. Same way you killed Ragnaros. Thus stopping it from ripping the Multiverse apart >but you will also die from falling from a little to high up.
It's hilarious to me that they basically tanked their franchise during WoD. Even up to MoP as you said the story was still good and still kept people interested. WoD was clearly an expansion that was rushed and had terrible writing just by its very existence. It was obviously pushed to the forefront to get subscribers used to the characters that would appear in the Warcraft movie. All of that work rushing an expansion to act as an ad for their big cinematic debut and it completely shot the franchise story-wise and eventually just complete innovation-wise
2 years ago
Anonymous
What I find even more funny is they were like 5ish years too late to capitalize on WoWs success to launch a multimedia franchise.
Seriously if they released a WoW movie in Lk or even in Cata, it would have been HUGE.
no shit. Everything about the patch was so bad that I quit and have not had the itch to play at all since. Even with all the new shit coming out. I've been freed from the WoW curse.
BUT
pay attention. There was a sub zone in there before uninstalling the game.
WoD zones were ludokino, Wrath sucked ass for the most part. I know people love Grizzly Hills but I thought it was shit and the music almost drove me insane
druids as a class in vanilla were pretty underdeveloped in general so that is pretty fitting
I still always thought it was neat having a super sekrit clubhouse all to ourselves
Ungoro is a runner up, im also fond of Jade Forest. In case you can't tell i like the jungle zones, but basin takes the cake since i have some nice comfy memories doing dailies and going for the Egg lottery back in the day with the comfy mist and great atmosphere.
Classic Hinterlands, Jintha'alor was probably my favorite spot in all of classic. I liked how big and open it was and fighting other people up the levels and the different quests that finish there (mostly the fraak mallet)
There was a nice horde fishing rod there too if I remember.
I was just a fan
this
compared to wod the legion zones felt like hot garbage and the only good one was timegated to shit >the travesty that was bfa and sl made me miss wod
what the frick
They are alright by themselves but they were very disconnected from each other unlike in WoD where you went on an adventure from establishing a foothold in a foreign land to making your way into Gorgrond so you can start preparing an assault on the foundry then you move on to Talador to drive the demons back of Shattrath which was supposed to be a raid and finally chasing down Garrosh and dealing with the ogres in Highmaul. Only Spires felt out of place.
Meanwhile the zones in Legion had frickall to do with each other. Even the quest hubs were disjointed >oh you just helped an ancient elven king redeem himself a little bit? go help some dragon cucks deal with spiders >we are interrupting this program to bring you pirates >our ship just crashed and we should take care of the survivors. now go solve puzzles for some viking homosexuals >demons are assaulting the world tree? time to collect apples for a village on the other side of the map
OK I am disingenuous but I really miss the zones being connected story wise. Legion took the worst parts of WoD
Legion is legitimately the worst WoW expansion and more importantly the expansion DIRECTLY responsible for killing the game. WoD was mismanaged in terms of content but the game was still salvageable at the time. Legion was the death knell.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the game was still salvageable at the time
No. Besides the lack of content, what did WoD really introduce to WoW? functionally infinite grinds and mandatory mini game interaction for progress. Along with time gating in a way with the mission table times. Everything bad about Legion started with WoD. Legion just turned all the worse aspects up to 11.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what the hell are you on about
none of that started in WoD
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ignored the garrison mission tables
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Legion just turned all the worse aspects up to 11.
thats the problem. people complained about those systems and instead of blizzard learning their lesson they introduce more of them and make the much more cancerous
>Time-gating that kino was a massive blunder
timegating in general has been ruining WoW for years. It's honestly the #1 problem with the game currently.
Blizzards hears the players and understands their concerns. That is why from next expansion (because we cant apply a hotfix for some reason) we are making every other character gay to give the players a sense of PRIDE™ and accomplishment when they are collecting bear asses. As for the timegating we are afraid this is just a vocal minority as our engagement metrics clearly show the system is working as intended. Don't forget to buy the rat which comes FOR FREE with a 6 month sub
>engagement metrics
This right here is what killed wow.
Well, that and the drunken rape gang roaming the cubicles causing Titan to implode and the WoW team being gutted during cata to salvage it's remains and make Overwatch.
>Titan to implode and the WoW team being gutted during cata to salvage it's remains and make Overwatch.
Trying to make a 2nd MMO when you currently had the biggest MMO in the world was already a moronic decision.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You'd think they would have learned that lesson from everquest and everquest 2, but I guess not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I look at it as proof that at that point in time Bobby had already started to push for more money.
I honestly think Bobby was giving Blizzard the Origin systems treatment. Run the studio in to the ground and take all the IPs for himself.
But then you know, rape.
>engagement metrics
I hate that this is the actual cause of all the issues in WoW. These shit eating nu-wow devs really think that more players logging in on tuesday is better than tons of playing logging in at all times.
Ilse of Thunder is great. >has a in game reason why you can not use your flying mount, that you can actually SEE >Has alot of shit to do on it >not too big so you can find people to do rares/group quests with or murder but not too small that you are always on top of each other >Leads to an actual good raid >Lorthemar is actually a character that is allowed to step outside of his city and interact with the world. >Troll content
Her lust is actually going down.
Back in mists she was shilling for horde destruction
Back in wrath she personally teleported to undercity to stop varian from killing both sylvanas and thrall and then voljin who was chilling outside
Maybe Dun Morogh. Not sure if its nostalgia or if i just like snow, i always like snowy areas in games. My first character was a gnome and i really enjoyed playing in that area.
For a game with so many kino zones, it's probably still Ardenweald, if I could have a house in any WoW zone it would be there
Honorable mentions:
Pre-cata stranglethorn vale
Hellfire peninsula for the sheer WTF factor of entering outland for the first time and that insane skybox
Revendreth, i always wanted a city that was so big it was an entire zone, giant dracula castle is close enough
What did they end up doing with Sylvanas anyway?
Insane and possessed? Or Playing 3D chess and is actually committing atrocities to help people for the greater good? It’s a coin flip for blizz
Who cares? This is a story that has had its entire world and how it functions retconned multiple times, sometimes after they explicitly stated the retconned material was being listed for the purpose of describing the world.
>world works a certain way for 30 years >lore is established >baddest guys are established >dead woman decides to do some random shit >everyone thinks she is crazy or going full hitler >2 expansions later it turns out she was serving some literal who that is supposed to be satan in the afterlife no one knew about >the entire expansion explains nothing about the motives and shit >but that bad guy apparently is 300 iq gigabrain that knew everything in advance >somehow knew about the first big bad >knew about the second one too and predicted his actions despite being a titan (meant god until now) >knew titan guy would link up with the demons he was busy killing until now >actually the demons are working for biggest baddy's secretary without them interacting with him at all >all of warcraft 3 was also part of his plan >including that other planet that has its own afterlife was part of the plan
basically a literal who comes out of nowhere and is supposed to be THE most powerful baddie in existence and predicted or is outright responsible for everything in the lore without even interacting with it while also being a jobber and sylvanas joined him for some reason >
People have complained about powercreep and wanted to go back to comfy boars in the messa instead of yet another world ending threat. BFA was supposed to be just that but instead we get more old gods which would be ok if the expansion was focused around it and not faction war. They wasted entire expansions on content patches. Argus could have been its own expansion but that was in Legion. Nazjatar was a fan favourite for a long time and it was just 1 zone. Mechagon was in the SAME PATCH as Nazjatar and was just a shitty island with some rares to kill for mounts. Zuldazar and Kultiras in the same expansion too which would have been fine if it was centered around WAR but no you have some 4 daily quests about killing random npcs and shit goes nowhere. You establish a small port on each zone and thats it. One of them is literally 2 tents on the beach. Then comes nyalotha which you barely even see because its not even a zone with quests just a raid and a shitty one too
point is there were plenty of big bads that we know about already. Instead they retcon literally everything to introduce some bald jobber that is responsible for quite literally everything including the downfall of arthas
wow that’s really terrible but I guess that power creep is to be expected after going this long. I stopped playing at Wrath
Oh my man you forgot the best part.
After not explaining what this guy intends to do or why or what that even means. They reveal that he was secretly good all along. His 5000 iq giga brain not only knew how to plan for people that didn't even exist yet, But understood that theres an even bigger bad guy that the universe cannot stop divided will show up and he had to be the big bad and do these bad things so that his new reality would be strong enough to fight it.
>There is no hope until Bobby is gone.
Its not even Bobby at this point this shit is what the team actually wants to make and do. They don't understand at all why people liked wow ever. It took classic for them to actually replay classic and understand why talent trees were good for the game and the purpose they served. I am sure after Wrath Classic they will remember why badge systems can be a good thing and reimplement them.
damn they actually pulled that shit off? I finally quit shortly after sanctum becasue it was obvious they were pulling a wod 2 and frick waiting half an year for that. to think I would once go for days without sleep just so I can keep playing
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah its fricking moronic. But if you left in 9.1 did you miss the amazing return of Arthas and what Blizzard fricking did to him?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah but nah I saw he was just a floating wisp that checked itself out while sylvanas is yapping and jaina and uther who should be talking are just staying silent. its not as based as garrosh deleting himself from the game but still funny how he absolutely ignores everyone and fricks off
Two Sylvanases!
One was actually good and did nothing wrong, The other is the 'real' Sylvanas. Turns out that frostmourne has soul-splitting powers or something. Fricking awful.
Last time I had the plot explained to me by a cynical ex-blizzdrone, she turned good because she got her soul back from the sneedolands forgetting the fact that she's a ghost inhabiting her corpse i.e. she's always literally just been her own fricking soul and it didn't go anywhere and felt bad about her crimes because her eyes turned blue so everyone forgave her
I want to like feralas but the green filter in that zone is ridiculous. Like that's past the point of jungle ambience, it feels like I'm walking around inside a lime jello cube when I'm in there.
I figured it was a magical jungle as apposed to Vietnam Vale. You don't spend too long suffering in gruesome strife in Feralas so it's more impressionistic
Vashj’ir. I really liked the idea of a vast underwater comfy zone. FF14 is a better game but the underwater parts in that game were a letdown. WoW did underwater right (I know people b***h about movement and combat but idgaf, I just want something vast, detailed, otherworldly, and comfy)
>dragonflight looking like the most rushed barebones xpac yet >new talent trees taking more away from classes than losing borrowed power >added actual fun new flying mechanic but only let the new class use it >devs pulling a "we're listening" stunt while ignoring the games major problems of class balance and timegating >attempting to pander to everything except people who play WoW
I'm so tired. I just want WoW to be good again. It's not as hard as it seems to fix the game but the nu-devs will never take even a single step in the right direction.
There is no hope until Bobby is gone.
Phil and MS might also be israelites but there is atleast a CHANCE without Bobby and his mega israelite ways that Blizzard can make a game that does not revolve around micro transactions and keeping the MRUs up.
Just find a private server or something.
I remember those that let you run your own world with NPC players and shit. I kinda wish that thing had something like STALKER's A-Life as well, creating more unique encounters, motives for NPCs and etcetera.
>Vanilla
I really liked Duskwood >TBC
Nagrand is the easy pick when every other zone is just coloured rocks, but Netherstorm was cool >Wrath
Grizzly Hills was max comfy, I also loved Storm Peaks and honeslty the 'final level' feel of Ice Crown. Wrath had great zones across the board
Even though BFA was a total fricking dumpster heap I actually did like Tiragarde Sound a lot, Kul Tiras as a whole is one of the few locations in WoW that genuinely felt like a functioning society. It's almost insane how badly they fricked up Zandalar in comparison.
Desolace is kino for a human start. You have to trek to the ass end of nowhere through multiple contested zones to get there, for like 10 quests if XP. You really feel like you are scraping the desolate ass of nowhere's ville in danger of getting jumped from all angles.
Every Northrend zone was pretty great they hit it out the park. even the boring ones like Tundra has some cool bits like the mecha gnome village. ZD had that cool questline where you disguised as a ghoul
TROLL ZONE was a fricking meme back then with people complaining it was over-done by that point, so I think they dialed down the trollness of ZD and cranked up the undeadness
I know about that and the troll raid too but I was expecting some frozen Mayan stuff from looking at the minimap. I was hyped for some troll kino when I got close to Gundrak and then the zone was over 🙁
I think it's time to admit that WoW needs a cata 2.0 but on a much grander scale.
By cata 2.0 I mean redo every single zone in the game to bring them up to the current time frame. Like If I go to Hellfire in Outland I want to see how much it has changed since BC. I want to go Storm Peaks and see how the keepers being active in the area again has effect the world. Hell how did the Deathwing ripping Azeroths old scar open effect Northrend? How about the Amani?
WoW just needs to fricking end, it should have ended around 2015 if Blizzard didnt scrap Titan. Since then theyve just been making shit up, the story is now a soap opera that will go on forever.
Expansion 5 could have just been the end, kill Sargarus, wrap up story lines of characters, keep a rivalry between horde and alliance to allow for some future stories in another game and stick a bow on it and moved everyone to the new MMO. Now blizzard has to deal with making more and more shit up for a game with 2004 source code everyone who knows about quit
I know about that and the troll raid too but I was expecting some frozen Mayan stuff from looking at the minimap. I was hyped for some troll kino when I got close to Gundrak and then the zone was over 🙁
you will never know what was up with that giant snake
>WoW just needs to fricking end
Yeah probably. If they wanted to salvage though, they'd need to fire the current writers because 99% of what they're producing is terrible. If you're left to ponder the incompetence of characters, and said incompetence is not an intentional characteristic of the character, that's very indicative of bad writer. This doesn't even touch upon shoehorning in LGBT crap into the game.
It also needs more cohesive game design and it's running into a design bloat problem. With the addition of the dracthyr and classes, they now have to design that many class sets, balance that many classes, and all this takes away from the class RP apparent in earlier expansions that made for good immersion.
Other way around
Say what? I thought Night Elves were there first and trolls came later.
SoO was when I realized WoW could never have a good story, regardless of Blizzard.
When Varian had the Horde at his feet, Warchief captured, his armies in the Horde capital, and he turned around and said 'okay back to status quo' and continued the war that has killed millions, I knew right then and there that they'd never have the guts to make any real changes and nothing will matter with any stakes whatsoever.
Sylvanas is the perfect example of that. In BFA, all her actions were absolutely in character and perfectly justifiable and only morons who don't know anything about what the character has done and is about would say otherwise. She's always been about not dying (after she saw what it was like, when she killed herself after Icecrown) and using everyone as a meatshield to keep herself alive. The entire Forsaken race is literally this (Sylvanas aligned ones, at least), she went up to them and said 'join me or I'll kill you, and you can't fight us because nobody else will accept you'.
BUT OF COURSE she was being mind controlled. Of COURSE. Because neither of the factions can have an evil character, EVER, because the playerbase would whine and cry and unsub about unfairness, and favoritism and other moronic shit. Imagine people shitting on George R. R. Martin when Eddard died, even though his death sets the entire story in motion. That's what this is. And it happened over and over with Garrosh. And Jaina. And others. They can NEVER be evil, or do something wrong, or win, or lose. It's all just set dressing for faction slurping children who HAVE to always be on equal standing. It's tiring. The world is super cool, there's a lot of cool lore and shit, but frick, I really wish Blizz stopped listening to the players. They're absolutely fricking moronic.
In an alternate timeline Blizzard used the Caverns of Time to do AU content so we can see Jaina lose her shit and destroy orgimar or Varion and Garrosh fighting ass to ass on the broken shore. Imagine, Iron Stars and Mecha Skorpids along with gnome/dwarf air support wrecking the Burning Legion right then and there. A timeline where Illidan is not a cuck.
>AU content so we can see Jaina lose her shit and destroy orgimar or Varion and Garrosh fighting ass to ass on the broken shore.
It'd be wild if they turned that into a new BG or something.
Man, it's so weird to imagine. The ingredients are all there; workshop brimming with state-of-the-art tools and materials, endless funding, countless pages of lore and characters to use and what they managed to build is a unicycle with rainbow paint and a flat tire.
But that's the magically thing about Garrosh. He is not a WC3 character but he mattered to the story. He IS a bad guy, no matter how much we meme about him doing nothing wrong. Garrosh IS evil. They never tried to redeem him. Never tried to say "oh well you see it was because the OLD GODs whispering to him."
It was just Garrosh being a dick.
There is a reason why him and Arthas got a double death. Because they were actually evil characters.
Double death seems infinitely better than staying alive so you can become a parody of yourself thanks to the new writers. Look at Uther. Hell Kael'thas would have set his own soul on fire back in TBC if he knew what would become of him 6 expansions later
Garrosh was a dick, but he wasn't 'evil'. The whole scene of him executing that one dude for being dishonorable, the duel with Cairne, etc. He's a warchief, in the truest sense of the word. He likes war and he's good at it. Even Thrall acknowledges this and knows full well Garrosh would turn the Horde into a war machine if he became Warchief, and he still let him do it.
The pandaria shit was again, Blizz just going 'well, he's being a dick and the players are getting mad, guess we gotta kill him off, ah it's okay the heart is corrupting him, see he's gone evil it's okay to kill him now haha'.
Then he escapes gay baby jail and goes back in time, but we don't talk about that.
>it was because of the old gods whispering to him
I never got this. Garry's character is all over the place in Cata, but in MoP is when he goes genocidal maniac. In Pandaria, the place with physical manifestations of evil emotions constantly possessing people, and making them go mad so much so that the leader of the group meant to stop them got possessed. Yet no one thinks it might have impacted Garrosh, and everyone blames him for everything? I'm not saying it would have been better to forgive him, but it feels like a lot of bullshit for no one to even think twice.
Like you said, Garry was all over the place in Cata. That's because the writers did not talk with each other. Even with that in mind there is plenty of stuff in cata that shows he can go off the deep end.
In MoP when someone was being controlled by the Sha it was clear. Garrosh outside of the very last fight in MoP never has even a wisp of Sha smog on him.
Garrosh was such a arrogant prick that he refused to be controlled by anyone.
I really think everybody liking Garrosh's exit underlines how bad blizz messed up the plot. Yeah, Garrosh was a bad guy but at least he had principles, at least he had honor, at least he's willing to die than compromise those.
All we have left is >Khadgar who's too old >Jaina who wimped in BFA >Thrall "I have a family" Doomhammer >Greymane although he's serially underused >Anduin who's suffering a double dose of PTSD from shadowlands and varian dying >Tyrande "cucked by elune" Whisperwind >Malfurion who's gonna die to "bring back ysera"
I don't even know who the alliance has left really. The horde is even worse. They left sylvanas alive and you know that the cucked writing team are going to try to bring her back.
>didn't get varian and garrosh putting aside squabbles to fight the legion
game was fricked narratively from that point anyway, like more than usual
2 years ago
Anonymous
>yes I hate alliance dogs but I hate demons more
how much more kino can the varian death cinematic become if garrosh was there? how would he react to guldan still not being dealt with? how would guldan react after being cucked from pozzing the brown orcs?
The only leaders I still care about are Lor'themar who already became a b***h to the nightborne chick, Greymane and maybe Vellen who already had his 2 min of fame in legion >all we have left
bro? Talanji? Neltharion's wienersleeve Menethil?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Talanji
Strong female self-insert who has nothing special of herself. Rastakhan was an actual character. >Neltharion's wienersleeve Menethil
Notice how they always have to add Menethil to her name, because she's irrelevant without bringing up Arthas because the writers are so crap they couldn't come up with a compelling character other than "Arthas actually had a sister". This is despite the fact that Arthas's family other than his father is never brought up EVER until this literal who shows up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
she was one of the more memorable literal whos before legion and bfa
I remember the speculations about her being one of the npcs in theramore
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look at the reason why this literal who is even in the spotlight. It's not strength, she didn't study under some archmage like Jaina, she isn't some renowned archer like the Windrunner sisters, she's not the leader and priest of an entire faction.
Her entire graft in the game is that she's Arthas' sister. That's it. She has no special powers other than being undead like the rest of the forsaken. She's not fought in any wars or even listed to be trained in the art of war.
Worst literal who ever.
2 years ago
Anonymous
isnt she also the first "lightforged undead"? she doesnt look like a rotting corpse >worst literal who
that you've heard of. still better than that moron draenei paladin in wod that died because of mushrooms and got his own statue in the class hall or the idiot troll druid that can turn himself into aquatic form on land and cast damaging spells on himself
2 years ago
Anonymous
>isnt she also the first "lightforged undead"? she doesnt look like a rotting corpse
I don't know, but if she is that's even more BS plotwise as of all the people to get this treatment, it's Arthas' sister. She'd be a more compelling character if she was anyone except Arthas' sister. >still better than that moron draenei paladin
They're still characters that still had powers of war and either died or proved the world was still dangerous. In this sense you can forget them because numerous other have fallen and died already. But contrast this to Arthas' sister who has nothing, done nothing, and only claim is being Arthas' sister.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>isnt she also the first "lightforged undead"? she doesnt look like a rotting corpse >I don't know, but if she is that's even more BS plotwise as of all the people to get this treatment, it's Arthas' sister. She'd be a more compelling character if she was anyone except Arthas' sister.
She is a Lightforged Undead and is now one of the 5 undead leaders. Whats even dumber is they have a quest where a Lich in the Shadowlands tries to justify her being a lightforged undead is the same as the forsaken and all undead are the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I really hope nobody buys dragonflight, they need to be stopped.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bro i hope so. The writing team is infuriating. I don't know how you have that many people writing a story but manage to tell no actual story with only the dumbest ideas. Dragonflight has a quest involving gay frogs and uniting the gay frogs together. That gets more story and explanation than any important things.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That gets more story and explanation than any important things.
didn't they cut out half of expansion story recently?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shadowlands feels like they cut out a bunch of explanation and rewrote that shit multiple times throughout its development and launch.
In varian's defense it was kind of a bad idea to start a war when the army is a miss match of horde and alliance soldiers and all the faction leaders are in the same spot + taran zhu being a wildcard + pozzed garrosh possibly regaining a bit of strength to frick everyone up. not to mention the remaining horde leaders were >thrall, a pacifist cuck >voljin, a pacifist cuck and a jobber like his father >baine, a pacifist cuck >the pandaBlack person, a pacifist cuck on a deathbed he wasnt even in the war room cinematic in bfa lmao >gallywix, a israelite who only cares about profit and doesnt really like war nor would start one >sylvanas, a b***h who only cares about her people and couldnt care less about the horde this was before danuser fricked her character up >lorthemar, unironically the best living leader at the time who is still a pacifist cuck
there was no reason to start another world war and peace never seemed closer
In defense of the Alliance, how many people died in future wars by his refusal to wipe out the heads of the horde right there? All of that pacifism didn't mean anything come BFA, but I guess you can chalk that up to bad writing. Still, there had to be some form of chastisement and rebuke.
and what happened in bfa? sylvanas went full schizo and most of the horde formed an army with the alliance and prepared for a second siege which was avoided just with the death of boomerfang
every other leader was pro peace except for gallywix who was just leeching from the highest bidder and was busy burning documents right before the duel
the war has gone on for too long and the horde is here to stay and both sides know it. ironically the alliance had more warmongers than the horde
Why is it the super late night NA/morning EU WoW threads are the best? There's been almost no sexual posts and there's some considerable lore dropping here. Almost reminds me of the 2004-2008 era of the forums.
Shame the game has turned to crap though.
I havent played with since about a month after Lich King raid was open.
But I'd say Stranglethorn Vale. I can't even recall any other locations' names but I fondly remember that lv 30-40 ish place because it had a shitton of horde/alliance fighting and of course that small arena area where everyone can just kill eachother over a chest every few hours. Ended up joining a guild that had teamspeak or that older Vsomething chatting program when I was screwing around in that arena and found out the Warrior/Priest duo I killed & eventually helped was some 64+ year old couple.
They were still playing when I quit, I wonder how they're doing now.
Yes. Warmongering characters in general. Pretty tired of everyone in WARcraft being all about honor and peace, it's fricking stupid. Raze some fricking cities already jesus frick.
I actually thought she was going to do some shit in BFA. Her warbringers cinematic was pure fricking kino.
And then nothing.
Eastern Plaguelands, specifically the old version.
Nothing is more intemidating than seeing the silhouette of Naxxramas in the distance as you fight the strongest open world monsters in the game, at the end of your long leveling journey.
The elites everywhere, actually having to go around places like Corin's Crossing because you're not strong enough to handle that amount of mob density, finally pushing your way into Tyr's Hand.
To say nothing of Stratholme, a top tier dungeon experience.
Eastern Plaguelands in early WoW was peak player fantasy. Your mind running wild of what awaits you in just another level or two.
>all these people sleeping on hellfire
yikes >the zone that most nails the otherworldish feel that a place like Outland should have >the gate >the alliance expedition and the idea of a group of humans stuck in literal hell, battling for their lives for twenty fricking years >the old school, soulful buildings >the skybox
best zone of Outland and possibly the game
There are some shit quests there but i don't mind get 30 boar asses sometimes its fun to just have a bunch of grinding you can do and complete a bunch of quests at once.
>pick up all the boar ass quests at once >go out exploring the area and killing everything you see >come back and hand them all in at the same time
sovl
>map has more question marks than the forums after the latest blizzard frick up
truly the most soulful experience
I hate how you can barely pick up more than 2 quests in a hub now and your quest log is still full because all the time gated shit with 50 steps you cant afford to abandon
>I remember there being giant succubi roaming around and jerking off to em a few times.
For me, it was those demon b***hes with the multiple arms and thongs.
Darkshore back when I started early 2005 cos I met a chick playing and we spent weeks just running up and down the coast fishing together and talking together.
She lived too far away to fugg tho 🙁
>What's your favorite WoW zone?
Lordaeron, Andorhal, Hearthglen, Stratholme, Burning Steppes, Searing Gorge and The Blackrock
Warcraft to me was always terribly boring but the human campaign in WC3 really struck a nerve.
Yeah, it's great how the environment tells the story of both horde and alliance throwing up their hands and saying 'frick it' after failing to tame the region.
A lot of the contested zones had that great feeling. Seeing camps of both sides in the same zone with the quests trying to accomplish different objectives.
Eoranus
I liked the halloween zone. I don't remember what it's called. Every game should have a halloween zone.
There's more than one, right? There's that graveyard town and then the undercity place with the undead.
there are a lot of spooky ass zones in WoW but im gonna guess you were talking about Tirisfal Glades
I know exactly what the frick you are talking about and I wont name it. Anyone halloweenpilled would know it instantly
Single favorite zone is probably Grizzly Hills. Love the ambiance and the aesthetic.
>grizzly hills and howling fjord
Shame this isn’t the first post
I'll also throw Storm Peaks in there. Loved flying around in that zone. The skybox was fantastic.
>Grizzly Hills
why is azeroth a goatse
holy shit, I just saw that
Eorzea
Rent free. WoW will permanently be better than FF14 no matter how shit WoW is currently.
Chink looking mobile game.
Thousand Needles, specifically Shimmering Flats.
I stopped playing at the Cata pre-patch.
Good choice.
Deadwind Pass
All other answers are wrong
Duskwood
Based and spookpilled
Taking sweet breaks between levelling by jumping out the bushes and ganking ally all night
Tirisfal Glades
stonetalon mountains, hunting night elves as an orc hunter was an unparallelled experience
Stonetalon mountains. Hunting orcs on a night elf hunter was an unparalleled experience.
2nd homosexual identification complete
OG Azshara and the only good zone in warlords of draenor, shadowmoon valley.
Probably ghostlands for the nostalgia. Playing wow for the first time and leveling a belf pally at night was great.
homosexual identified
There is a shitload, but i liked the maw with warmode on in season 1 of shadowlands. too many normies got filtered by it.
you're playing wow during shadowlands, you are the normie homosexual
WoW hasn't been normie since Wrath. Normies complain WoW isn't on their PS4 because PC's are scary to them.
>WoW hasn't been normie since Wrath
There's no way you're not trolling
I think he meant wow has been normalgay since wrath
wotlk might be a little too early but it hasnt been a big thing or normie for around a decade regardless
Storm Peaks and Howling Fjord
Loch Modan before Cata
Shadowlands was hot garbage but it did give me Ardenweald which instantly became my new favorite zone the second I set foot in it.
Before SL it was probably Valley of the Four Winds
Most of Mists of Pandaria was gorgeous, but the Valley...it was cozy. Really felt like a land untouched by war or strife.
Tirisfal Glades, Durotar, Gnome and Dwarf starting area, Burning Steppes, Un'Goro, the place below the shimmering flats, the place east of thousand needles, the barrens, the place near booty bay
Stranglethorn. Booty Bay is my favorite city in the game.
Drustvar, Vashj'ir, Shadowmoon Valley WoD, Duskwood, Valley of the Four Winds, and Zuldazar are also great.
Teldrassil was my first contact with WoW, WoD was really nice leveling for the first time so prolly Spires of Arak or Talador close second
>Teldrassil was my first contact with WoW
This. It's so dark and densely forested with verticality and caves and a variety of fantastic inhabitants from demons to furbolgs to giant spiders to stalking panthers to monstrous elementals. And the music is heartbreakingly beautiful and haunting. The whole thing just engulfs you - swallows you whole into another world.
Undead and Dorf starting areas are pretty compelling too, but I think Tirisfal is too dark and miserable, and Dun Murogh(?) doesn't have the same magical fantasy feeling, although the snowy mountains are kino.
Grizzly Hills
honestly Northrend in general is incredibly kino and fun to just frick around in. Dragonblight and Icecrown are the only two I think are mediocre
Icecrown is a good example of a zone in WoW ruined by flying. it's a scary zone on foot but with flying it's eh.
Zangarmarsh
It's technically a dungeon but inner maraudon was my favorite because of the water falls, color scheme, and theme. Out of all the places in WoW, it really felt the most pure I guess.
Old Ashenvale will always hold a special place just because that's where I leveled in OG and all the ganking and pvp that took place.
Storm Peaks
It also had the best raid
No love for Nagrand?
I always loved Zangarmarsh more of the Outland zones but it's a solid second place.
Nagrand is beautiful, but the quests there are just such a pain to play through.
Nagrand has the 2nd best audio theme next to howling fjord
Hinterlands
Often forgotten about, undeveloped in terms of quests, and still has an air of mystery to it.
I always forget that place even exists
In hindsight it is pretty cool though, wish they did more with the Wildhammer city
I wish they did more with dwarves period. The writers forgot they existed.
On second thought, I don't want the current writers touching them.
wow lore is dead and buried anon, you can't unfrick it from the raping shadowlands did.
Who thought it would be a great idea to pull back the curtain on the mystery of a large chunk of WoW mythos and do a quarter-assed job on it?
Furthermore, why haven't they been fired?
I second this. Always had to go there for the ZF egg quest and had the best outdoor dungeon. Wildhammer got crapped on though. Only show up there and once in TBC.
I can never remember how the frick you get to hinterlands. Like there's a tunnel or something or you can follow a river and I think there's also a path from the plaguelands? I never remember.
It's not really obvious, there's an unmarked path behind Durnholde Keep and they don't really expect you to go through the pass from the Plaguelands
there's a tunnel from Arathi Highlands, a path near Durnhold keep in Hillsbrad, or another Tunnel from the plaguelands IIRC.
it's fitting ironically enough given it was supposed to be the middle of bumfrick nowhere which is why the Wildhammer fled there, and there are still high elves and forest trolls running about. But yeah the writers basically forget to connect it with other regions in any meaningful way and you only went there by accident or by a bread crumb quest
Jintha Alor bros...take me back
Blackrock Mountain
probably ashenvale for vanilla, and easily zangar for tbc
vashjir is the coolest zone I've seen in any game ever and it makes me sad knowing I will never get anything like that again
Rift had an xpac called Nightmare Tide that was underwater themed
Frick I miss that game
I remember on cata's launch Vashjir was buggy as frick and like half the quests barely worked. I think it took me like a week to make it through that zone and I was really behind in my guild because damn near everyone did Hyjal instead. It really wasn't worth doing Vashjir over Hyjal honestly, especially when they added Firelands and you needed to do Hyjal to access the dailies.
That was mainly because it was so crowded that it broke a lot of the scripting. Took forever to get captured by a naga to continue the chain.
The two quests I got stuck on the hardest in Vashjir was this one quest inside the giant clam where you had to break these quest nodes, and the nodes just didn't respawn so I couldn't complete it until the server reset.
The other one was that one quest near the VERY end of the zone where you're in a submarine. All you had to do was watch some dialogue play out but the submarine was bugged and kept activating the fatigue bar so I kept dying inside it.
Fun fact. The final quest in Vashjir is STILL bugged so they just made it a talk quest. Same goes for Gilneas penultimate quest that is also bugged so vehicle kills dont count so you have to manually kill 100 homosexuals traveling in huge packs and 3 elites while being level 19
Yeah that doesn't surprise me at all. Blizzard's policy on broken quests from old expansions was always to either just fricking delete it or make players deal with it. They don't care to fix it and they don't know how to fix it.
And yeah frick vehicle quests. As bad as that Worgen quest sounds (I know the one you're talking about didn't know it broke though) some of those vehicle quests are easier to beat without the fricking vehicle because they're always fricking gimped and underpowered compared to your normal abilities. Like I know there's one quest in Westfall where you have to use some vehicle to destroy harvest watchers but it's slower at killing them than just using your normal abilities, which is why the quest specifies that you have to kill them using the vehicle because frick you.
Is that still the case? I imagine it would be harder after heirlooms got fricked because of kharazhan solo xp farm. Now quest blues are unironically better and heirlooms still cost a fortune to upgrade
Back when Cata released I made a DK, finished the questline, learnt flying and ran into Deathwing. Flew right to his fire for the achievement but it did nothing.
>Cata release day
>Server crashed while I was on the boat
>Logged back in and I was a mile away from anything and had to swim to where the boat was supposed to sink
Frick you, blizzard
It's a shame how badly this place filtered people to the point that they cut all related content
tirisfal glades, i was very bummed to learn that brill and UC are destroyed now
they apparently did some event for the undead to reclaim UC in one of the latest patches I guess. though idk what that means in practice I just caught that tidbit in another thread
Atm they are in the process of being rebuilt and fixed up. It may be an ongoing thing that happens over the course of the next expansion but who knows. It also looks like the upper part of Undercity may actually be turned into a city.
>Here is Lillian Voss
>lets make it very VERY clear she has some kind of super powers and she is gonna be important
>explain her powers? develop her? naw.
>lets mostly ignore her. Use he as some kind of npc follower you can get on your team.
>Ok lets bring her back to being apart of the game....but lets just ignore the thing that made her stand out. She is now just a undead rogue.
>oh yea she is supposed to be important and we are putting slyvanas behind some glass...i guess she can be the leader.
No one remembers Gunther Arcanus.
>there on an island in the middle of a lake in Tirisfal since vanilla
>described as a powerful lich, despite just being an undead mage
>quest involved recruiting him into the Forsaken after his old friend Benthor realizes its him
>never fricking heard of ever again, having an actual lich in the Forsaken ranks would've been great but Blizzard remembers jack shit about their own world
Though with how the lore eventually got, maybe it's best he didn't deal with Sylvannas bullshit.
Blizzard has blundered so many characters/plot lines so they can keep the spot light on the main WC3 characters.
Then for the WC3 characters they keep them around so they can milk that nostalgia....and try their hardest to ruin them. Some how Illidan Smugged his was though their bullshit and Garrosh just noped the frick out.
I find it crazy how the only character they managed to keep consistent to the very end was Garrosh even with the ~~*modern*~~ team
>calls Thrall a coward one last time before exploding
Blizzard really failed to develop any new characters and it really started showing in Cataclysm/MoP.
Cata and MoP WAS when they put more focus on side/new characters.
WoD was when they went running back to the WC1-3 cast and have not stopped since. They also killed of Garrosh.
Legion was filled with 'member berries and revolved around Illidan coming back from the dead to save WoW.
BFA actually did have new characters and some I even like would like to be a part of the story. Too bad after a while it went right back to "hey guys...War...craft...3"
Shadowlands launch content was fricking filled to the brim with Nostalgia pandering hidden in every fricking corner, and nothing else. The whole story once again revolved around the WC3 characters. Thrall is the Not Warchief of the Orcs. Jaina is a hippy. Sylvanas is a person who was manipulated and is now free and must redeem herself. Tyrande got shafted the worse because she is the only one that really changed much from the end of WC3. She is still the same boring semi b***hty character, but with no tree and knows he godess is a moron.
>Shadowlands launch content
where?
also there was kael thas and vashj and that was it. kel thuzad was in 9.1
Hakkar, ZulJin, Uther, Ursoc, the list goes on and on of various little references that just amount to "hey you memeber this" and then they moved on. They put absolutely 0 effort in to most of them but they are there if you take the time to look at some of the NPCs around the zones.
They no longer had metzen or like 80% of his team. Metzen really was the glue holding it all together.
Wait what, when the frick did that happen?
Battle for Azeroth
but frankly speaking everyone who cares about the lore should just pretend the game ended with Legion.
>everyone who cares about the lore should just pretend the game ended with Legion.
More like Wrath of the lich king.
More like BC, i remember the Space Goat Retcon drama.
You should have stopped caring about the lore in WoD. Everything before was fine. Yes, even MoP. It expanded the world/lore in a good way. Them dropping the idea of Aspects being a thing was stupid, but everything else about Cata was fine to great. Really the biggest let down about Cata is we SHOULD have got more.
Then there is WoD. Introducing AU/ATs is a mistake 90% of the time and just leads a lazy reason to bring back characters. Gul Dan. Now the idea of "hey why don't we get back up from these other universes" is always there. We KNOW the door is not closed. AU Yrel is gonna come purge some heritics sooner or later. Horde even has AU Orcs on their side. It was also a glorified movie tie in that was gutted the moment the movie was not gonna spawn a franchise. AUs existing in lore just makes it so nothing really matters or they have to pump the power levels up to such levels that is not seen outside of the yearly events in western cape comics.
>This Super Void Lord is a threat to the multiverse!
>You will beat it to death with glowing things. The exact same way you killed some random pig men out in the middle of a fricking desert. Same way you killed druid. Same way you killed Ragnaros. Thus stopping it from ripping the Multiverse apart
>but you will also die from falling from a little to high up.
Still the last expansion that got to 10m subs. Shame they fricked it up blizzard style and everyone left again. Also bringing Gul'dan back was kino
It's hilarious to me that they basically tanked their franchise during WoD. Even up to MoP as you said the story was still good and still kept people interested. WoD was clearly an expansion that was rushed and had terrible writing just by its very existence. It was obviously pushed to the forefront to get subscribers used to the characters that would appear in the Warcraft movie. All of that work rushing an expansion to act as an ad for their big cinematic debut and it completely shot the franchise story-wise and eventually just complete innovation-wise
What I find even more funny is they were like 5ish years too late to capitalize on WoWs success to launch a multimedia franchise.
Seriously if they released a WoW movie in Lk or even in Cata, it would have been HUGE.
Nothing between killing Arthas and fighting the Burning Legion again mattered.
>Vanilla
Blackrock Mountain
>BC
Hellfire
>Wrath
None, northren is shit.
>Cata
Hyjal
>MoP
Timeless
>WoD
Garrison
>Legion
Suramar, quit after killing Xavius so I can't say anything about the post launch content
>BFA
Mechagon
>SL
Sanctum of Domination, Torture Chamber, then the uninstall screen.
>Sanctum of Domination
I dislike you for saying this. Sanctum of Domination has been the worst place added to the game ever.
no shit. Everything about the patch was so bad that I quit and have not had the itch to play at all since. Even with all the new shit coming out. I've been freed from the WoW curse.
BUT
pay attention. There was a sub zone in there before uninstalling the game.
>>BC
>Hellfire
>None, northren is shit.
C'mon anon, you can't just say none of the Northrend zones are good when you put Hellfire as your favorite for BC
You had to be there on release to understand how glorious it was and my nostalgia/love for it.
Frostfire Ridge, Gorgrond, Spires of Arak, Darkmoon Faire, Deepholm, Zangarmarsh, Highmountain, Maldraxxus, Sholazar, Stranglethorn
WoD zones were ludokino, Wrath sucked ass for the most part. I know people love Grizzly Hills but I thought it was shit and the music almost drove me insane
Wintergrasp is the best Northrend zone. Best music too.
grizzly hills was a masterpiece and miles ahead of your gay zone
Overrated as frick
any other druidbros here?
it always felt too sterile and empty/dead to me. I feel like it could've been kino but they bungled it
druids as a class in vanilla were pretty underdeveloped in general so that is pretty fitting
I still always thought it was neat having a super sekrit clubhouse all to ourselves
I didn't know this for the longest time but regular classes could take the Timbermaw hold tunnel from Felwood into Moonglade
t. Warlock that took a fat infernal shit in the Moonglade pools
I wish there was more to do there. It barely even feels like a town when it should have been a proper Druid only city.
Sholazar Basin without a single doubt.
Ungoro is a runner up, im also fond of Jade Forest. In case you can't tell i like the jungle zones, but basin takes the cake since i have some nice comfy memories doing dailies and going for the Egg lottery back in the day with the comfy mist and great atmosphere.
>Ungoro
Incredibly based opinion. I like ungoro too.
I really liked all the desert areas. Tanaris, Silithis, and Uldum were all supremely enjoyable to me. Not sure why I like deserts so much.
You forgot the eastern end of thousand needles.
Easily Timeless Isle nothing comes close. Shame WoWs a big hunk of shit only for autistic addon addicted freaks and speedrunning trannies.
troll starting area
?t=120
>ywn walk into ironforge for the first time again
playin wow classic really hit it home that we're never going back when we were young and had so much free time and no responsibilities
I have plenty of free time and no responsibilities, sounds like a personal issue
Lagforge was peak early 00's MMO city design. Loved it.
The breasts
home
The troll area is kino. Had some great times getting destroyed there back in the day.
>zones Horde will never understand
but it's primarily a horde questing zone
>rainy pine forest with nothing going on besides a few squatting trolls
kino.
Vashj'ir
Classic Hinterlands, Jintha'alor was probably my favorite spot in all of classic. I liked how big and open it was and fighting other people up the levels and the different quests that finish there (mostly the fraak mallet)
There was a nice horde fishing rod there too if I remember.
I was just a fan
Duskwood
In expansion order
Dun Morogh
Zangarmarsh
Grizzly Hills
Vashj'ir
Isle of Thunder
Frostfire Ridge
Suramar
Zuldazar
Revendreth
Legion would have been 10x better if every zone were a different area of Suramar. Time-gating that kino was a massive blunder
this
compared to wod the legion zones felt like hot garbage and the only good one was timegated to shit
>the travesty that was bfa and sl made me miss wod
what the frick
Eh, I liked Highmountain and Stormheim.
They are alright by themselves but they were very disconnected from each other unlike in WoD where you went on an adventure from establishing a foothold in a foreign land to making your way into Gorgrond so you can start preparing an assault on the foundry then you move on to Talador to drive the demons back of Shattrath which was supposed to be a raid and finally chasing down Garrosh and dealing with the ogres in Highmaul. Only Spires felt out of place.
Meanwhile the zones in Legion had frickall to do with each other. Even the quest hubs were disjointed
>oh you just helped an ancient elven king redeem himself a little bit? go help some dragon cucks deal with spiders
>we are interrupting this program to bring you pirates
>our ship just crashed and we should take care of the survivors. now go solve puzzles for some viking homosexuals
>demons are assaulting the world tree? time to collect apples for a village on the other side of the map
OK I am disingenuous but I really miss the zones being connected story wise. Legion took the worst parts of WoD
Legion is legitimately the worst WoW expansion and more importantly the expansion DIRECTLY responsible for killing the game. WoD was mismanaged in terms of content but the game was still salvageable at the time. Legion was the death knell.
>the game was still salvageable at the time
No. Besides the lack of content, what did WoD really introduce to WoW? functionally infinite grinds and mandatory mini game interaction for progress. Along with time gating in a way with the mission table times. Everything bad about Legion started with WoD. Legion just turned all the worse aspects up to 11.
what the hell are you on about
none of that started in WoD
>ignored the garrison mission tables
>Legion just turned all the worse aspects up to 11.
thats the problem. people complained about those systems and instead of blizzard learning their lesson they introduce more of them and make the much more cancerous
WoD was probably one of the best launch expansions. A real treat to level through and explore the first time. After that, yeesh.
>An illusion? What are you hiding?
hmmmmmmmmmmmno
>Time-gating that kino was a massive blunder
timegating in general has been ruining WoW for years. It's honestly the #1 problem with the game currently.
Blizzards hears the players and understands their concerns. That is why from next expansion (because we cant apply a hotfix for some reason) we are making every other character gay to give the players a sense of PRIDE™ and accomplishment when they are collecting bear asses. As for the timegating we are afraid this is just a vocal minority as our engagement metrics clearly show the system is working as intended. Don't forget to buy the rat which comes FOR FREE with a 6 month sub
>engagement metrics
This right here is what killed wow.
Well, that and the drunken rape gang roaming the cubicles causing Titan to implode and the WoW team being gutted during cata to salvage it's remains and make Overwatch.
>Titan to implode and the WoW team being gutted during cata to salvage it's remains and make Overwatch.
Trying to make a 2nd MMO when you currently had the biggest MMO in the world was already a moronic decision.
You'd think they would have learned that lesson from everquest and everquest 2, but I guess not.
I look at it as proof that at that point in time Bobby had already started to push for more money.
I honestly think Bobby was giving Blizzard the Origin systems treatment. Run the studio in to the ground and take all the IPs for himself.
But then you know, rape.
>engagement metrics
I hate that this is the actual cause of all the issues in WoW. These shit eating nu-wow devs really think that more players logging in on tuesday is better than tons of playing logging in at all times.
>Isle of Thunder
Out of all the amazing zones in {andaland you pick the Warcraft equivalent of Britain?
Ilse of Thunder is great.
>has a in game reason why you can not use your flying mount, that you can actually SEE
>Has alot of shit to do on it
>not too big so you can find people to do rares/group quests with or murder but not too small that you are always on top of each other
>Leads to an actual good raid
>Lorthemar is actually a character that is allowed to step outside of his city and interact with the world.
>Troll content
Just really like the atmosphere and troll designs in the zone
Loch Modan (vanilla)
Fishing as a level 11 Dwarf there was absolutely serene
*sips*
Winterspring, but as horde.
>danushit confirmed a three years timeskip between the end of SL and the start of DF
She's coming back, right?
>three years
this cant be real
how much time passed between classic and bfa in game?
Jaina would be too old for children after that. It's over.
the wall is real
My beard started turning white at 33 so I feel for her.
her age is going up just like her lust for orc wiener
Her lust is actually going down.
Back in mists she was shilling for horde destruction
Back in wrath she personally teleported to undercity to stop varian from killing both sylvanas and thrall and then voljin who was chilling outside
Maybe Dun Morogh. Not sure if its nostalgia or if i just like snow, i always like snowy areas in games. My first character was a gnome and i really enjoyed playing in that area.
For a game with so many kino zones, it's probably still Ardenweald, if I could have a house in any WoW zone it would be there
Honorable mentions:
Pre-cata stranglethorn vale
Hellfire peninsula for the sheer WTF factor of entering outland for the first time and that insane skybox
Revendreth, i always wanted a city that was so big it was an entire zone, giant dracula castle is close enough
Mulgore, Nagrand, Grizzly Hills
Simple talaga
zul'drak
The uninstall wizard.
frick it
warmane is the current go-to server, right?
Warmane is the most popular wotlk server
Ascension is overall the best server but it's all custom content if you are into that
the go-to is just moving on
What did they end up doing with Sylvanas anyway?
Insane and possessed? Or Playing 3D chess and is actually committing atrocities to help people for the greater good? It’s a coin flip for blizz
Who cares? This is a story that has had its entire world and how it functions retconned multiple times, sometimes after they explicitly stated the retconned material was being listed for the purpose of describing the world.
Curious enough to ask for a qrd on Ganker, not enough to google it and get a long ass wiki or some half hour youtube video
Rethink ur life
>world works a certain way for 30 years
>lore is established
>baddest guys are established
>dead woman decides to do some random shit
>everyone thinks she is crazy or going full hitler
>2 expansions later it turns out she was serving some literal who that is supposed to be satan in the afterlife no one knew about
>the entire expansion explains nothing about the motives and shit
>but that bad guy apparently is 300 iq gigabrain that knew everything in advance
>somehow knew about the first big bad
>knew about the second one too and predicted his actions despite being a titan (meant god until now)
>knew titan guy would link up with the demons he was busy killing until now
>actually the demons are working for biggest baddy's secretary without them interacting with him at all
>all of warcraft 3 was also part of his plan
>including that other planet that has its own afterlife was part of the plan
basically a literal who comes out of nowhere and is supposed to be THE most powerful baddie in existence and predicted or is outright responsible for everything in the lore without even interacting with it while also being a jobber and sylvanas joined him for some reason
>
u rike?
wow that’s really terrible but I guess that power creep is to be expected after going this long. I stopped playing at Wrath
People have complained about powercreep and wanted to go back to comfy boars in the messa instead of yet another world ending threat. BFA was supposed to be just that but instead we get more old gods which would be ok if the expansion was focused around it and not faction war. They wasted entire expansions on content patches. Argus could have been its own expansion but that was in Legion. Nazjatar was a fan favourite for a long time and it was just 1 zone. Mechagon was in the SAME PATCH as Nazjatar and was just a shitty island with some rares to kill for mounts. Zuldazar and Kultiras in the same expansion too which would have been fine if it was centered around WAR but no you have some 4 daily quests about killing random npcs and shit goes nowhere. You establish a small port on each zone and thats it. One of them is literally 2 tents on the beach. Then comes nyalotha which you barely even see because its not even a zone with quests just a raid and a shitty one too
point is there were plenty of big bads that we know about already. Instead they retcon literally everything to introduce some bald jobber that is responsible for quite literally everything including the downfall of arthas
Oh my man you forgot the best part.
After not explaining what this guy intends to do or why or what that even means. They reveal that he was secretly good all along. His 5000 iq giga brain not only knew how to plan for people that didn't even exist yet, But understood that theres an even bigger bad guy that the universe cannot stop divided will show up and he had to be the big bad and do these bad things so that his new reality would be strong enough to fight it.
>There is no hope until Bobby is gone.
Its not even Bobby at this point this shit is what the team actually wants to make and do. They don't understand at all why people liked wow ever. It took classic for them to actually replay classic and understand why talent trees were good for the game and the purpose they served. I am sure after Wrath Classic they will remember why badge systems can be a good thing and reimplement them.
damn they actually pulled that shit off? I finally quit shortly after sanctum becasue it was obvious they were pulling a wod 2 and frick waiting half an year for that. to think I would once go for days without sleep just so I can keep playing
Yeah its fricking moronic. But if you left in 9.1 did you miss the amazing return of Arthas and what Blizzard fricking did to him?
yeah but nah I saw he was just a floating wisp that checked itself out while sylvanas is yapping and jaina and uther who should be talking are just staying silent. its not as based as garrosh deleting himself from the game but still funny how he absolutely ignores everyone and fricks off
Two Sylvanases!
One was actually good and did nothing wrong, The other is the 'real' Sylvanas. Turns out that frostmourne has soul-splitting powers or something. Fricking awful.
Last time I had the plot explained to me by a cynical ex-blizzdrone, she turned good because she got her soul back from the sneedolands forgetting the fact that she's a ghost inhabiting her corpse i.e. she's always literally just been her own fricking soul and it didn't go anywhere and felt bad about her crimes because her eyes turned blue so everyone forgave her
it had good trees. not as good as felwood, but still in my top 5 tree zones
I want to like feralas but the green filter in that zone is ridiculous. Like that's past the point of jungle ambience, it feels like I'm walking around inside a lime jello cube when I'm in there.
I figured it was a magical jungle as apposed to Vietnam Vale. You don't spend too long suffering in gruesome strife in Feralas so it's more impressionistic
Barrens chat
Vashj’ir. I really liked the idea of a vast underwater comfy zone. FF14 is a better game but the underwater parts in that game were a letdown. WoW did underwater right (I know people b***h about movement and combat but idgaf, I just want something vast, detailed, otherworldly, and comfy)
Dustwallow Marsh and Westfall for me.
>Outland and Azeroth both in all caps
>Draenor only does the first letter
Perfectly encapsulates the laziness of blizzard
>dragonflight looking like the most rushed barebones xpac yet
>new talent trees taking more away from classes than losing borrowed power
>added actual fun new flying mechanic but only let the new class use it
>devs pulling a "we're listening" stunt while ignoring the games major problems of class balance and timegating
>attempting to pander to everything except people who play WoW
I'm so tired. I just want WoW to be good again. It's not as hard as it seems to fix the game but the nu-devs will never take even a single step in the right direction.
There is no hope until Bobby is gone.
Phil and MS might also be israelites but there is atleast a CHANCE without Bobby and his mega israelite ways that Blizzard can make a game that does not revolve around micro transactions and keeping the MRUs up.
Just find a private server or something.
I remember those that let you run your own world with NPC players and shit. I kinda wish that thing had something like STALKER's A-Life as well, creating more unique encounters, motives for NPCs and etcetera.
the one that's fun
>Vanilla
I really liked Duskwood
>TBC
Nagrand is the easy pick when every other zone is just coloured rocks, but Netherstorm was cool
>Wrath
Grizzly Hills was max comfy, I also loved Storm Peaks and honeslty the 'final level' feel of Ice Crown. Wrath had great zones across the board
then I quit and you shoul have no
>Vanilla
Ashenvale
>TBC
Eversong
>Wrath
Howling Fjord
>Cata
Hyjal or Uldum
>MoP
Jade Forest
Your mum's wet zone, and when I enter it she's like WOW
Even though BFA was a total fricking dumpster heap I actually did like Tiragarde Sound a lot, Kul Tiras as a whole is one of the few locations in WoW that genuinely felt like a functioning society. It's almost insane how badly they fricked up Zandalar in comparison.
For me? Desolace.
Desolace is kino for a human start. You have to trek to the ass end of nowhere through multiple contested zones to get there, for like 10 quests if XP. You really feel like you are scraping the desolate ass of nowhere's ville in danger of getting jumped from all angles.
Every Northrend zone was pretty great they hit it out the park. even the boring ones like Tundra has some cool bits like the mecha gnome village. ZD had that cool questline where you disguised as a ghoul
Zul'Drak was the best WotLK zone and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>boot up random WoW OST video
>remember good times
>get sad
I wanted more troll stuff instead of zombies. Drakuru doesnt count
TROLL ZONE was a fricking meme back then with people complaining it was over-done by that point, so I think they dialed down the trollness of ZD and cranked up the undeadness
I know about that and the troll raid too but I was expecting some frozen Mayan stuff from looking at the minimap. I was hyped for some troll kino when I got close to Gundrak and then the zone was over 🙁
I thought it neat that an entire zone was a troll city. Really underlined how far trolls were. Weren't they just deformed night elves or something?
Other way around
where the frick are the mage talent tree changes
I think it's time to admit that WoW needs a cata 2.0 but on a much grander scale.
By cata 2.0 I mean redo every single zone in the game to bring them up to the current time frame. Like If I go to Hellfire in Outland I want to see how much it has changed since BC. I want to go Storm Peaks and see how the keepers being active in the area again has effect the world. Hell how did the Deathwing ripping Azeroths old scar open effect Northrend? How about the Amani?
WoW just needs to fricking end, it should have ended around 2015 if Blizzard didnt scrap Titan. Since then theyve just been making shit up, the story is now a soap opera that will go on forever.
Expansion 5 could have just been the end, kill Sargarus, wrap up story lines of characters, keep a rivalry between horde and alliance to allow for some future stories in another game and stick a bow on it and moved everyone to the new MMO. Now blizzard has to deal with making more and more shit up for a game with 2004 source code everyone who knows about quit
you will never know what was up with that giant snake
>WoW just needs to fricking end
Yeah probably. If they wanted to salvage though, they'd need to fire the current writers because 99% of what they're producing is terrible. If you're left to ponder the incompetence of characters, and said incompetence is not an intentional characteristic of the character, that's very indicative of bad writer. This doesn't even touch upon shoehorning in LGBT crap into the game.
It also needs more cohesive game design and it's running into a design bloat problem. With the addition of the dracthyr and classes, they now have to design that many class sets, balance that many classes, and all this takes away from the class RP apparent in earlier expansions that made for good immersion.
Say what? I thought Night Elves were there first and trolls came later.
Not before the trannies, homosexuals, and virtue signalers leave.
Dun morogh, i love the snow and feel to the place
Pre-cata hinterlands on horde
Hillsbrad
SoO was when I realized WoW could never have a good story, regardless of Blizzard.
When Varian had the Horde at his feet, Warchief captured, his armies in the Horde capital, and he turned around and said 'okay back to status quo' and continued the war that has killed millions, I knew right then and there that they'd never have the guts to make any real changes and nothing will matter with any stakes whatsoever.
Sylvanas is the perfect example of that. In BFA, all her actions were absolutely in character and perfectly justifiable and only morons who don't know anything about what the character has done and is about would say otherwise. She's always been about not dying (after she saw what it was like, when she killed herself after Icecrown) and using everyone as a meatshield to keep herself alive. The entire Forsaken race is literally this (Sylvanas aligned ones, at least), she went up to them and said 'join me or I'll kill you, and you can't fight us because nobody else will accept you'.
BUT OF COURSE she was being mind controlled. Of COURSE. Because neither of the factions can have an evil character, EVER, because the playerbase would whine and cry and unsub about unfairness, and favoritism and other moronic shit. Imagine people shitting on George R. R. Martin when Eddard died, even though his death sets the entire story in motion. That's what this is. And it happened over and over with Garrosh. And Jaina. And others. They can NEVER be evil, or do something wrong, or win, or lose. It's all just set dressing for faction slurping children who HAVE to always be on equal standing. It's tiring. The world is super cool, there's a lot of cool lore and shit, but frick, I really wish Blizz stopped listening to the players. They're absolutely fricking moronic.
this. just look at the whole sylvanas burning the tree, tyrande, etc.
Literally nothingburger.
imagine the kino if Jaina actually flooded orgrimmar
In an alternate timeline Blizzard used the Caverns of Time to do AU content so we can see Jaina lose her shit and destroy orgimar or Varion and Garrosh fighting ass to ass on the broken shore. Imagine, Iron Stars and Mecha Skorpids along with gnome/dwarf air support wrecking the Burning Legion right then and there. A timeline where Illidan is not a cuck.
>AU content so we can see Jaina lose her shit and destroy orgimar or Varion and Garrosh fighting ass to ass on the broken shore.
It'd be wild if they turned that into a new BG or something.
Man, it's so weird to imagine. The ingredients are all there; workshop brimming with state-of-the-art tools and materials, endless funding, countless pages of lore and characters to use and what they managed to build is a unicycle with rainbow paint and a flat tire.
But that's the magically thing about Garrosh. He is not a WC3 character but he mattered to the story. He IS a bad guy, no matter how much we meme about him doing nothing wrong. Garrosh IS evil. They never tried to redeem him. Never tried to say "oh well you see it was because the OLD GODs whispering to him."
It was just Garrosh being a dick.
There is a reason why him and Arthas got a double death. Because they were actually evil characters.
Double death seems infinitely better than staying alive so you can become a parody of yourself thanks to the new writers. Look at Uther. Hell Kael'thas would have set his own soul on fire back in TBC if he knew what would become of him 6 expansions later
Garrosh was a dick, but he wasn't 'evil'. The whole scene of him executing that one dude for being dishonorable, the duel with Cairne, etc. He's a warchief, in the truest sense of the word. He likes war and he's good at it. Even Thrall acknowledges this and knows full well Garrosh would turn the Horde into a war machine if he became Warchief, and he still let him do it.
The pandaria shit was again, Blizz just going 'well, he's being a dick and the players are getting mad, guess we gotta kill him off, ah it's okay the heart is corrupting him, see he's gone evil it's okay to kill him now haha'.
Then he escapes gay baby jail and goes back in time, but we don't talk about that.
>it was because of the old gods whispering to him
I never got this. Garry's character is all over the place in Cata, but in MoP is when he goes genocidal maniac. In Pandaria, the place with physical manifestations of evil emotions constantly possessing people, and making them go mad so much so that the leader of the group meant to stop them got possessed. Yet no one thinks it might have impacted Garrosh, and everyone blames him for everything? I'm not saying it would have been better to forgive him, but it feels like a lot of bullshit for no one to even think twice.
Like you said, Garry was all over the place in Cata. That's because the writers did not talk with each other. Even with that in mind there is plenty of stuff in cata that shows he can go off the deep end.
In MoP when someone was being controlled by the Sha it was clear. Garrosh outside of the very last fight in MoP never has even a wisp of Sha smog on him.
Garrosh was such a arrogant prick that he refused to be controlled by anyone.
I really think everybody liking Garrosh's exit underlines how bad blizz messed up the plot. Yeah, Garrosh was a bad guy but at least he had principles, at least he had honor, at least he's willing to die than compromise those.
All we have left is
>Khadgar who's too old
>Jaina who wimped in BFA
>Thrall "I have a family" Doomhammer
>Greymane although he's serially underused
>Anduin who's suffering a double dose of PTSD from shadowlands and varian dying
>Tyrande "cucked by elune" Whisperwind
>Malfurion who's gonna die to "bring back ysera"
I don't even know who the alliance has left really. The horde is even worse. They left sylvanas alive and you know that the cucked writing team are going to try to bring her back.
>didn't get varian and garrosh putting aside squabbles to fight the legion
game was fricked narratively from that point anyway, like more than usual
>yes I hate alliance dogs but I hate demons more
how much more kino can the varian death cinematic become if garrosh was there? how would he react to guldan still not being dealt with? how would guldan react after being cucked from pozzing the brown orcs?
The only leaders I still care about are Lor'themar who already became a b***h to the nightborne chick, Greymane and maybe Vellen who already had his 2 min of fame in legion
>all we have left
bro? Talanji? Neltharion's wienersleeve Menethil?
>Talanji
Strong female self-insert who has nothing special of herself. Rastakhan was an actual character.
>Neltharion's wienersleeve Menethil
Notice how they always have to add Menethil to her name, because she's irrelevant without bringing up Arthas because the writers are so crap they couldn't come up with a compelling character other than "Arthas actually had a sister". This is despite the fact that Arthas's family other than his father is never brought up EVER until this literal who shows up.
she was one of the more memorable literal whos before legion and bfa
I remember the speculations about her being one of the npcs in theramore
Look at the reason why this literal who is even in the spotlight. It's not strength, she didn't study under some archmage like Jaina, she isn't some renowned archer like the Windrunner sisters, she's not the leader and priest of an entire faction.
Her entire graft in the game is that she's Arthas' sister. That's it. She has no special powers other than being undead like the rest of the forsaken. She's not fought in any wars or even listed to be trained in the art of war.
Worst literal who ever.
isnt she also the first "lightforged undead"? she doesnt look like a rotting corpse
>worst literal who
that you've heard of. still better than that moron draenei paladin in wod that died because of mushrooms and got his own statue in the class hall or the idiot troll druid that can turn himself into aquatic form on land and cast damaging spells on himself
>isnt she also the first "lightforged undead"? she doesnt look like a rotting corpse
I don't know, but if she is that's even more BS plotwise as of all the people to get this treatment, it's Arthas' sister. She'd be a more compelling character if she was anyone except Arthas' sister.
>still better than that moron draenei paladin
They're still characters that still had powers of war and either died or proved the world was still dangerous. In this sense you can forget them because numerous other have fallen and died already. But contrast this to Arthas' sister who has nothing, done nothing, and only claim is being Arthas' sister.
>>isnt she also the first "lightforged undead"? she doesnt look like a rotting corpse
>I don't know, but if she is that's even more BS plotwise as of all the people to get this treatment, it's Arthas' sister. She'd be a more compelling character if she was anyone except Arthas' sister.
She is a Lightforged Undead and is now one of the 5 undead leaders. Whats even dumber is they have a quest where a Lich in the Shadowlands tries to justify her being a lightforged undead is the same as the forsaken and all undead are the same.
I really hope nobody buys dragonflight, they need to be stopped.
Bro i hope so. The writing team is infuriating. I don't know how you have that many people writing a story but manage to tell no actual story with only the dumbest ideas. Dragonflight has a quest involving gay frogs and uniting the gay frogs together. That gets more story and explanation than any important things.
>That gets more story and explanation than any important things.
didn't they cut out half of expansion story recently?
Shadowlands feels like they cut out a bunch of explanation and rewrote that shit multiple times throughout its development and launch.
In varian's defense it was kind of a bad idea to start a war when the army is a miss match of horde and alliance soldiers and all the faction leaders are in the same spot + taran zhu being a wildcard + pozzed garrosh possibly regaining a bit of strength to frick everyone up. not to mention the remaining horde leaders were
>thrall, a pacifist cuck
>voljin, a pacifist cuck and a jobber like his father
>baine, a pacifist cuck
>the pandaBlack person, a pacifist cuck on a deathbed he wasnt even in the war room cinematic in bfa lmao
>gallywix, a israelite who only cares about profit and doesnt really like war nor would start one
>sylvanas, a b***h who only cares about her people and couldnt care less about the horde this was before danuser fricked her character up
>lorthemar, unironically the best living leader at the time who is still a pacifist cuck
there was no reason to start another world war and peace never seemed closer
In defense of the Alliance, how many people died in future wars by his refusal to wipe out the heads of the horde right there? All of that pacifism didn't mean anything come BFA, but I guess you can chalk that up to bad writing. Still, there had to be some form of chastisement and rebuke.
and what happened in bfa? sylvanas went full schizo and most of the horde formed an army with the alliance and prepared for a second siege which was avoided just with the death of boomerfang
every other leader was pro peace except for gallywix who was just leeching from the highest bidder and was busy burning documents right before the duel
the war has gone on for too long and the horde is here to stay and both sides know it. ironically the alliance had more warmongers than the horde
Blackrock Mountain. Had the best dungeons. Honorable mentions to Tanaris, Barrens, and Duskwood. Frick Silithus.
Why is it the super late night NA/morning EU WoW threads are the best? There's been almost no sexual posts and there's some considerable lore dropping here. Almost reminds me of the 2004-2008 era of the forums.
Shame the game has turned to crap though.
All the children who falseflag and shitpost are asleep.
Crazy how good Ganker could be if only let 24+ old people post.
I havent played with since about a month after Lich King raid was open.
But I'd say Stranglethorn Vale. I can't even recall any other locations' names but I fondly remember that lv 30-40 ish place because it had a shitton of horde/alliance fighting and of course that small arena area where everyone can just kill eachother over a chest every few hours. Ended up joining a guild that had teamspeak or that older Vsomething chatting program when I was screwing around in that arena and found out the Warrior/Priest duo I killed & eventually helped was some 64+ year old couple.
They were still playing when I quit, I wonder how they're doing now.
Duskwood, Drustvar (best music too), Revendreth because I'm a goth fanboy.
Blizzard just gets spooky. Even as they've declined in quality, even their modern team still can pump the spooks
Hard to say.
Westfall, then EPL/WPL.
post-cata thousand needles
Does anyone else miss Hateful Jaina?
Yes. Warmongering characters in general. Pretty tired of everyone in WARcraft being all about honor and peace, it's fricking stupid. Raze some fricking cities already jesus frick.
I actually thought she was going to do some shit in BFA. Her warbringers cinematic was pure fricking kino.
And then nothing.
I'll give blizzard this.
Their animation department is still top notch and they should just make a show/movie.
I want her back. She was perfect
It was fun while everyone was theorizing she was a dreadlord and shit.
Can't have that, the white woman must lust for orc/Black person wiener and sell out her entire race for it.
Somehow it's Grizzly Hills, the ambience there is like none other (the music is 10/10 aswell)
Un'goro
>volcano
>hotsprings
>hunting
>devilsaurs
Vanilla:
Winterspring
TBC:
Netherstorm
Wrath:
Stormpeaks
Cata:
The underwater one frick all the haters.
MoP:
Timeless Isle
WoD:
The horde starter one the snow one.
Legion:
Suramar
BFA:
N/A
Shadowlands:
N/A
Eastern Plaguelands, specifically the old version.
Nothing is more intemidating than seeing the silhouette of Naxxramas in the distance as you fight the strongest open world monsters in the game, at the end of your long leveling journey.
The elites everywhere, actually having to go around places like Corin's Crossing because you're not strong enough to handle that amount of mob density, finally pushing your way into Tyr's Hand.
To say nothing of Stratholme, a top tier dungeon experience.
Eastern Plaguelands in early WoW was peak player fantasy. Your mind running wild of what awaits you in just another level or two.
My top zones are Elwynn Forest and Tirisfal Glades.
dun morogh
>all these people sleeping on hellfire
yikes
>the zone that most nails the otherworldish feel that a place like Outland should have
>the gate
>the alliance expedition and the idea of a group of humans stuck in literal hell, battling for their lives for twenty fricking years
>the old school, soulful buildings
>the skybox
best zone of Outland and possibly the game
>Terrible quests
>Unplayable at launch, dungeon spamming was the only correct way to do the zone
>Collect 30 fel boar asses type of quests
No
There are some shit quests there but i don't mind get 30 boar asses sometimes its fun to just have a bunch of grinding you can do and complete a bunch of quests at once.
>pick up all the boar ass quests at once
>go out exploring the area and killing everything you see
>come back and hand them all in at the same time
sovl
>map has more question marks than the forums after the latest blizzard frick up
truly the most soulful experience
I hate how you can barely pick up more than 2 quests in a hub now and your quest log is still full because all the time gated shit with 50 steps you cant afford to abandon
I remember there being giant succubi roaming around and jerking off to em a few times.
Had to make it quick because of the roaming fel reavers.
>I remember there being giant succubi roaming around and jerking off to em a few times.
For me, it was those demon b***hes with the multiple arms and thongs.
Draenor zones >>>> SL
Darkshore back when I started early 2005 cos I met a chick playing and we spent weeks just running up and down the coast fishing together and talking together.
She lived too far away to fugg tho 🙁
>What's your favorite WoW zone?
Lordaeron, Andorhal, Hearthglen, Stratholme, Burning Steppes, Searing Gorge and The Blackrock
Warcraft to me was always terribly boring but the human campaign in WC3 really struck a nerve.
Eversong woods
Valley of the four winds
Mac'aree
So what private server are you using?
I'm using Chromiecraft
I like Swamp of Sorrows. I like swamps, and it does a very good job of creating the feeling of a borderland/noman's land.
I loved all the ogre camps and the paths through the swamp dipping in and out of the water.
Yeah, it's great how the environment tells the story of both horde and alliance throwing up their hands and saying 'frick it' after failing to tame the region.
A lot of the contested zones had that great feeling. Seeing camps of both sides in the same zone with the quests trying to accomplish different objectives.
Silvermoon and it's forests, really.
I do hate Dalaran with passion too.
sholazar basin and its not even close