>early-gen-z core
Undertale is the only game that belongs on this list, everything else came out after I turned 18. Earlyzoomercore is 2006-2013. >t. 98 zoomer
If the games came out when you were a teenager then how can you say they're not from your generation?
>Cuphead
Shitty game hard carried by art style and overblown due to normies being impressed by mild difficulty >Persona 5
Good game but still a downgrade when compared to previous instances in the franchise, luckily most fans of the game haven't played P3 or even P4 >Nier Automata
Masterpiece. Only contrarians dislike it. It is a very philosophical game but to this day I think the actual thesis of the game flew over most people's head, both supporters and detractors. Most discussions on the game's story and themes were centered around ideas that were mostly superficial, such as "le androids are... just the same as le robots, get it?", which are kind of a thematic red herring and have little to do with the actual ending of the game. >Undertale
Solid, great game. Deconstructions of game mechanics weren't new when it came out but the execution was really good. Some of the characters were pretty weak and the message could be pretty blunt at times, but overall it just works (tm). Having said all of that, I do think it is somewhat overrated.
I watched all the classic Mickey Mouse shorts from the 30s as a kid but I'm not going to rave on a game just because they imitate that style. Honestly I think the game is kinda ugly and the music is pretty uninspired. So the presentation, which is by far the strongest aspect of the game, didn't do it for me.
The story and characters are basically irrelevant.
That only leaves the gameplay itself, which is ok I guess. Again, nothing blew my mind.
Also it is pretty rich to complain about the length of an RPG while defending a platformer-shooter that vastly overstays its welcome like Cuphead.
Classic Megaman games had more charm in just a few couple levels.
>caring about story and characters in an arcadey run and gun action game >the game is kinda ugly >music is pretty uninspired >45 minute long game overstays its welcome
you are just straight moronic, I don't know what else to say. Just a really asinine unfounded opinion.
see above.
I have played my fair share of games that boil down to "shoot enemy while dodging enemy bullets", Cuphead didn't impress me.
[...]
Fair enough. I don't think that everybody must love the game, I was referring only to people who claim that it is a bad game
Combat has the issue that it relies a lot on your level. Thus when you are lower level than the enemy you barely make a dent on their health and then once you are level 99 you pretty much instakill bosses.
>I have played my fair share of games that boil down to "shoot enemy while dodging enemy bullets", Cuphead didn't impress me.
"Played" means very little. "Cleared" means a whole lot more. You are a shitter with zero clears so your opinion isn't relevant. When you call Nier Automata a masterpiece (lol), the fricking awful opinions start to make sense.
>When you call Nier Automata a masterpiece (lol), the fricking awful opinions start to make sense.
For real lmao. I didn't hate Nier Automata but I will literally never respect anybody that calls the game with genuinely garbage gameplay, and zero game design whatsoever, a "masterpiece" and then goes on to jerk themselves "heh...I understood le story...but most did not understand le story". This is fricking moronic. The story is not that complicated, nobody reduces it only to "le robots are humans" that's like the most obvious hammered theme from the beginning, the game isn't deep or subtle. You're just moronic lmfao Jesus Christ.
This has to be weebs right? I can only imagine weebs having THIS much...how do I put it...lack of self awareness?
Anyway. I didn't like Cuphead either. I have never played a single run and gun or whatever it's called. I just tried to engage with the level design and hated it. I don't remember why, I think I hated how rigid the shooting felt. It was like, either you only shoot at an angle, or straight forward, and that's triggered me because the levels DELIBERATELY try to annoy you with some moronic bullshit so...yeah. Games shit as far as I'm concerned. No idea why OP mentioned Cuphead instead of hollow knight, the better game anyway.
yeah anon you are such an epic hardcore gaymer for playing the normie-friendly shooter that everybody else played
>When you call Nier Automata a masterpiece (lol), the fricking awful opinions start to make sense.
For real lmao. I didn't hate Nier Automata but I will literally never respect anybody that calls the game with genuinely garbage gameplay, and zero game design whatsoever, a "masterpiece" and then goes on to jerk themselves "heh...I understood le story...but most did not understand le story". This is fricking moronic. The story is not that complicated, nobody reduces it only to "le robots are humans" that's like the most obvious hammered theme from the beginning, the game isn't deep or subtle. You're just moronic lmfao Jesus Christ.
This has to be weebs right? I can only imagine weebs having THIS much...how do I put it...lack of self awareness?
Anyway. I didn't like Cuphead either. I have never played a single run and gun or whatever it's called. I just tried to engage with the level design and hated it. I don't remember why, I think I hated how rigid the shooting felt. It was like, either you only shoot at an angle, or straight forward, and that's triggered me because the levels DELIBERATELY try to annoy you with some moronic bullshit so...yeah. Games shit as far as I'm concerned. No idea why OP mentioned Cuphead instead of hollow knight, the better game anyway.
>with genuinely garbage gameplay >and zero game design >The story is not that complicated
Funny how all you do is just throw buzzword after buzzword but you can't make an actual concrete criticism.
>yeah anon you are such an epic hardcore gaymer for playing the normie-friendly shooter that everybody else played
A game being popular doesn't change the fact that it is still brutally difficult and only a tiny percentage got Expert S-ranks. It's much more difficult and skill-intensive than some shitty jarpig or adventure game.
>shallow, braindead simple button-mashing combat >your dash is not actually for positioning but just gives you a ton of i-frames. It's just a braindead react button that nullifies all damage, just spam it in any direction to prevent damage >world is empty and soulless, filled with constant invisible walls, random garbage lying around arbitrarily, and bullet sponge enemies (if you run past will just lead to you being underleveled/undergeared) >quest design is extremely basic and repetitive fetch quests >camera has constant jarring forced switches >free camera is terrible even after messing around with the options; really weird angle and constantly gets caught on walls in smaller spaces >enemies are braindead hordes of harmless trash mobs with tons of hp >bosses are boring fights against generic robots with basic attacks but absolutely massive pools of health >enemies and bosses are extremely unbalanced since your damage and stats increase so much with upgrades. If you aren't wasting time wandering the empty world for shitty fetch quests, gathering crafting garbage, or grinding trash mobs, then the enemies quickly become massive sponges >"open-world" game that is an on-rails linear path with invisible walls absolutely everywhere >outside of the tutorial, items are absurdly cheap and you can just spam them with no downside >pseudointellectual snoozefest story with completely unappealing characters >tons of half-baked ideas like praying for player corpses, shitty tedious hacking sections, acting like saving is core to the story then you can like every two minutes including from the menu after the prologue, copying Souls bloodstain but doesn't matter because you never die and you lose very little if you do, all the half-assed shmup sections, etc.
Nier Automata is legitimately dogshit
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>combat is too easy
Have you tried increasing the difficulty? >world is empty
homie did you even play the game? Or are you mad that not every single square inch is littered with stuff?
I'm honestly scratching my head trying to figure out in what sense I'm supposed to look at an area like the amusement park and think that it is "empty". >fetch quests
Patently false. Again did you actually play the game or did you just look at some youtube video? There's a pretty varied amount of side quests. >the camera
I never got any issues with it. >level affects your damage too much
Fair, I mentioned it above. >"open-world" game
??????????????????????????????????? >you can spam items
Did you try increasing the difficulty? >pseudointellectual snoozefest story with completely unappealing characters
In what way? Again, the fact that you can't say anything specific and instead default to super vague statements is what leads me to think that you genuinely, unironically, simply didn't get it.
This sort of complaints are the equivalent of watching a film such as The Seventh Seal and saying that it is bad because there aren't enough flashy fight scenes. The game is trying to do something rather specific and you are complaining because it isn't doing something completely different.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the enemies are already massive bullet sponges >BRO JUST MAKE THE ENEMIES EVEN BIGGER BULLET SPONGES
moron
>Shitty game hard carried by art style and overblown due to normies being impressed by mild difficulty
moron-tier opinion. Cuphead has top-tier gameplay to match its visual style. Post Expert S-ranks.
see above.
I have played my fair share of games that boil down to "shoot enemy while dodging enemy bullets", Cuphead didn't impress me.
I liked Automata's setting and story, but if I'm being honest the combat and exploration were extremely boring. Combat is either perfect dodge spam or half-baked shmup.
I promise I'm not being contrarian. Really wanted to fall in love with the game but it's only fine to me.
Fair enough. I don't think that everybody must love the game, I was referring only to people who claim that it is a bad game
Combat has the issue that it relies a lot on your level. Thus when you are lower level than the enemy you barely make a dent on their health and then once you are level 99 you pretty much instakill bosses.
I liked Automata's setting and story, but if I'm being honest the combat and exploration were extremely boring. Combat is either perfect dodge spam or half-baked shmup.
I promise I'm not being contrarian. Really wanted to fall in love with the game but it's only fine to me.
the philosophical shit isn't any more interesting than the "le robots are le people too???" shit, it's just summarizing the basic ideas of different existentialist philosophers, it has nothing original to say beyond sucking off camus. claiming "the actual thesis of the game flew over most people's head" is a ridiculous cope - everyone who took high school english gets it, we just didn't think it was as interesting as you did
> it's just summarizing the basic ideas of different existentialist philosophers
It's not like the game is just a slideshow of wikipedia-tier introductions to different ideas.
There's a narrative upon which they are built upon, which is coherent and quite tight on the details.
All the characters are there for a purpose, they all have aspects in common, they all represent different outlooks towards a similar issue.
If you saw all that and it didn't impress you then that's fine. > everyone who took high school english gets it
lmao no
The average Joe is genuinely moronic and can't grasp any story that goes beyond Marvel capeshit.
>early
i was 20 when cuphead came out. do the millennials of Ganker really forget how old zoomers actually are? have millennials on here this whole time conflated gen z with really late gen z/gen alpha?
t. 1997 zoomer
>i was 20 when cuphead came out. do the millennials of Ganker really forget how old zoomers actually are? have millennials on here this whole time conflated gen z with really late gen z/gen alpha?
I was 15 when Cuphead came out. And it had no influence or effect on me because that was the political era for people my age so I had other shit to focus on. But yeah. People don't seem to know what actual zoomers are. It just seems to be a word that arbitrarily means "kids" which is moronic.
no, because people have lives outside of fatly playing video games all day in their basement and was focused on other stuff so didnt have the time to get into it at that time. is that a hard concept to understand? do fat loser neets really?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Chad was playing Cuphead with his friends while you were wasting your youth thinking about Trump lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no. there were just more interesting games to play when i had the time, fatty.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's not what you said, you said "it had no influence or effect on me because that was the political era for people my age ", you fricking loser
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
NTA but it's called socialization. That's simply the shit people talked about around that time. Everyone was talking about that shit, because that's when SJW became a word, when Ben Shapiro was becoming a thing, and Jordan Peterson to, and if anyone remembers clearly, that's REALLY when all the trans shit started to take off because the attack helicopter meme comes from around that year.
So yeah. It's not exactly like I didn't have time to play videogames, it's just that it wasn't my focus and so I wasn't obsessively looking for new releases to play all the time. I guess you were a nerd or whatever?
yes..? do you not remember the election at that time?
>I was 15 >that was the political era for people my age so I had other shit to focus on.
what exactly did you spend your time and energy on in politics when you couldn't even vote
>Cuphead
Content sparse but a fun game, if you're not shit you can S rank everything in 2-3 hours and have not much else to do >Nier Automata
Gameplay overstays its welcome, good story and I do like the waifus >Persona 5
I like persona/smt turn based gameplay but the cast of this game specifically was pretty weak, so it was just ok for me >Undertale
Probably my favorite out of these 4. Really good outside of the lgbt shit and the meta elements, but it does characterization and worldbuilding very well with the fast 6 hour playthrough time it has, and I really like gimmicky turn-based games which this does pretty well.
>if you're not shit you can S rank everything in 2-3 hours
lol bullshit, show Cuphead playtime and S-ranks fraud. Cupheard S-ranks are brutally hard even for someone with a ton of retro, run and gun and shmup experience.
Meant to type A rank, those weren't bad.
Forgot expert got unlocked (and conversely S ranks) after beating the game or something so yes I am fraudulent :^)
Not that anon, but I could S rank almost all the bosses without that much trouble thanks to Miss Chalice. The only ones I have left are the bird one and a couple of the DLC ones. They made her too OP.
Nevermind, just a moronic poser. Completing Contra on NES no deaths with just the starting weapon is still easier than even just getting A-ranks on Cuphead.
>le "Dark Souls" of platformers >entry that was responsible for casualizing the series >coomer meme game >Cave Story for Zoomers who don't know what Cave Story is
Glad I grew up with older siblings who introduced me to gaming early on so I actually got to grow up playing good games
I'm gonna be honest, it's Undertale. Nothing wrong with Persona 5, Nier, or Cuphead though they're good in their own right. I liked the run and gun aspects and the classic cartoon style of Cuphead, and I liked the visuals on Nier despite the game not really to my likings, and Persona 5 was alright I'm more of a Shin Megami Tensei type of guy.
Sell me on Cuphead. Maybe I misunderstood it. I really did want to like it but I just didn't. I'm this anon: >Anyway. I didn't like Cuphead either. I have never played a single run and gun or whatever it's called. I just tried to engage with the level design and hated it. I don't remember why, I think I hated how rigid the shooting felt. It was like, either you only shoot at an angle, or straight forward, and that's triggered me because the levels DELIBERATELY try to annoy you with some moronic bullshit so...yeah. Games shit as far as I'm concerned. No idea why OP mentioned Cuphead instead of hollow knight, the better game anyway.
>early-gen-z core
Undertale is the only game that belongs on this list, everything else came out after I turned 18. Earlyzoomercore is 2006-2013. >t. 98 zoomer
Fnaf: Kinda mid franchise. The first few games were good, but made on a shitty outdated 2000’s engine.
Old Fnaf fan games: A lot of them aged like shit. IP + Fnaf gameplay got old quick.
Mascot horror as a whole: Primarly Slop, except for maybe Fnaf and Bendy.
Fortnite: Just slop
Happy Wheels: One of the few flash games I play today for real.
Minecraft: Kinda got old. Don’t want to deal with Microsoft’s bullshit.
Terraria: Could not figure out what to do without 9 gorrilion resources. Also the favourite game of one of my least liked YouTubers, Reddit Guy Mask.
Dark Souls: Became the COD of Single Player Games. Also phased out the based brawler (not calling it kharcuter actuion) genre.
Hollow Knight: One of the most overrated Reddit games. While not bad, still leaves a lot to be desired. With such a big map, the character moves to slow.
Shovel Knight: Actually based 8-bit throwback. Best part was the Kratos and Battletoads Cameos.
>undertale
Mogged by a literal puzzle game both in gameplay and a more clever and intricate use of a 4th wall gimmick.
Even the so praised and overrated music gets BTFO by it by Irisu's beautiful piano tracks.
Story is better also.
Zoomer indie shit is soulless nowdays.
>early
I was 15 when these came out, kys
If the games came out when you were a teenager then how can you say they're not from your generation?
There has to be a cutoff somewhere and my cutoff is 18, simple as.
Probably gonna get shit for this but Persona 5. Deserving of the praise it gets and still replay it to this day.
>undertale
*pukes* more like an early-gen-troony-tumblr core game.
>Cuphead
Shitty game hard carried by art style and overblown due to normies being impressed by mild difficulty
>Persona 5
Good game but still a downgrade when compared to previous instances in the franchise, luckily most fans of the game haven't played P3 or even P4
>Nier Automata
Masterpiece. Only contrarians dislike it. It is a very philosophical game but to this day I think the actual thesis of the game flew over most people's head, both supporters and detractors. Most discussions on the game's story and themes were centered around ideas that were mostly superficial, such as "le androids are... just the same as le robots, get it?", which are kind of a thematic red herring and have little to do with the actual ending of the game.
>Undertale
Solid, great game. Deconstructions of game mechanics weren't new when it came out but the execution was really good. Some of the characters were pretty weak and the message could be pretty blunt at times, but overall it just works (tm). Having said all of that, I do think it is somewhat overrated.
>Cuphead, shitty game
>Slogsona 500 hours, good game
your taste is immaculately shit
I watched all the classic Mickey Mouse shorts from the 30s as a kid but I'm not going to rave on a game just because they imitate that style. Honestly I think the game is kinda ugly and the music is pretty uninspired. So the presentation, which is by far the strongest aspect of the game, didn't do it for me.
The story and characters are basically irrelevant.
That only leaves the gameplay itself, which is ok I guess. Again, nothing blew my mind.
Also it is pretty rich to complain about the length of an RPG while defending a platformer-shooter that vastly overstays its welcome like Cuphead.
Classic Megaman games had more charm in just a few couple levels.
>caring about story and characters in an arcadey run and gun action game
>the game is kinda ugly
>music is pretty uninspired
>45 minute long game overstays its welcome
you are just straight moronic, I don't know what else to say. Just a really asinine unfounded opinion.
>I have played my fair share of games that boil down to "shoot enemy while dodging enemy bullets", Cuphead didn't impress me.
"Played" means very little. "Cleared" means a whole lot more. You are a shitter with zero clears so your opinion isn't relevant. When you call Nier Automata a masterpiece (lol), the fricking awful opinions start to make sense.
>When you call Nier Automata a masterpiece (lol), the fricking awful opinions start to make sense.
For real lmao. I didn't hate Nier Automata but I will literally never respect anybody that calls the game with genuinely garbage gameplay, and zero game design whatsoever, a "masterpiece" and then goes on to jerk themselves "heh...I understood le story...but most did not understand le story". This is fricking moronic. The story is not that complicated, nobody reduces it only to "le robots are humans" that's like the most obvious hammered theme from the beginning, the game isn't deep or subtle. You're just moronic lmfao Jesus Christ.
This has to be weebs right? I can only imagine weebs having THIS much...how do I put it...lack of self awareness?
Anyway. I didn't like Cuphead either. I have never played a single run and gun or whatever it's called. I just tried to engage with the level design and hated it. I don't remember why, I think I hated how rigid the shooting felt. It was like, either you only shoot at an angle, or straight forward, and that's triggered me because the levels DELIBERATELY try to annoy you with some moronic bullshit so...yeah. Games shit as far as I'm concerned. No idea why OP mentioned Cuphead instead of hollow knight, the better game anyway.
yeah anon you are such an epic hardcore gaymer for playing the normie-friendly shooter that everybody else played
>with genuinely garbage gameplay
>and zero game design
>The story is not that complicated
Funny how all you do is just throw buzzword after buzzword but you can't make an actual concrete criticism.
>yeah anon you are such an epic hardcore gaymer for playing the normie-friendly shooter that everybody else played
A game being popular doesn't change the fact that it is still brutally difficult and only a tiny percentage got Expert S-ranks. It's much more difficult and skill-intensive than some shitty jarpig or adventure game.
?t=220
>shallow, braindead simple button-mashing combat
>your dash is not actually for positioning but just gives you a ton of i-frames. It's just a braindead react button that nullifies all damage, just spam it in any direction to prevent damage
>world is empty and soulless, filled with constant invisible walls, random garbage lying around arbitrarily, and bullet sponge enemies (if you run past will just lead to you being underleveled/undergeared)
>quest design is extremely basic and repetitive fetch quests
>camera has constant jarring forced switches
>free camera is terrible even after messing around with the options; really weird angle and constantly gets caught on walls in smaller spaces
>enemies are braindead hordes of harmless trash mobs with tons of hp
>bosses are boring fights against generic robots with basic attacks but absolutely massive pools of health
>enemies and bosses are extremely unbalanced since your damage and stats increase so much with upgrades. If you aren't wasting time wandering the empty world for shitty fetch quests, gathering crafting garbage, or grinding trash mobs, then the enemies quickly become massive sponges
>"open-world" game that is an on-rails linear path with invisible walls absolutely everywhere
>outside of the tutorial, items are absurdly cheap and you can just spam them with no downside
>pseudointellectual snoozefest story with completely unappealing characters
>tons of half-baked ideas like praying for player corpses, shitty tedious hacking sections, acting like saving is core to the story then you can like every two minutes including from the menu after the prologue, copying Souls bloodstain but doesn't matter because you never die and you lose very little if you do, all the half-assed shmup sections, etc.
Nier Automata is legitimately dogshit
>combat is too easy
Have you tried increasing the difficulty?
>world is empty
homie did you even play the game? Or are you mad that not every single square inch is littered with stuff?
I'm honestly scratching my head trying to figure out in what sense I'm supposed to look at an area like the amusement park and think that it is "empty".
>fetch quests
Patently false. Again did you actually play the game or did you just look at some youtube video? There's a pretty varied amount of side quests.
>the camera
I never got any issues with it.
>level affects your damage too much
Fair, I mentioned it above.
>"open-world" game
???????????????????????????????????
>you can spam items
Did you try increasing the difficulty?
>pseudointellectual snoozefest story with completely unappealing characters
In what way? Again, the fact that you can't say anything specific and instead default to super vague statements is what leads me to think that you genuinely, unironically, simply didn't get it.
This sort of complaints are the equivalent of watching a film such as The Seventh Seal and saying that it is bad because there aren't enough flashy fight scenes. The game is trying to do something rather specific and you are complaining because it isn't doing something completely different.
>the enemies are already massive bullet sponges
>BRO JUST MAKE THE ENEMIES EVEN BIGGER BULLET SPONGES
moron
>Shitty game hard carried by art style and overblown due to normies being impressed by mild difficulty
moron-tier opinion. Cuphead has top-tier gameplay to match its visual style. Post Expert S-ranks.
see above.
I have played my fair share of games that boil down to "shoot enemy while dodging enemy bullets", Cuphead didn't impress me.
Fair enough. I don't think that everybody must love the game, I was referring only to people who claim that it is a bad game
Combat has the issue that it relies a lot on your level. Thus when you are lower level than the enemy you barely make a dent on their health and then once you are level 99 you pretty much instakill bosses.
I agree the level scaling is ridiculous unless you're playing 9S
I liked Automata's setting and story, but if I'm being honest the combat and exploration were extremely boring. Combat is either perfect dodge spam or half-baked shmup.
I promise I'm not being contrarian. Really wanted to fall in love with the game but it's only fine to me.
the philosophical shit isn't any more interesting than the "le robots are le people too???" shit, it's just summarizing the basic ideas of different existentialist philosophers, it has nothing original to say beyond sucking off camus. claiming "the actual thesis of the game flew over most people's head" is a ridiculous cope - everyone who took high school english gets it, we just didn't think it was as interesting as you did
> it's just summarizing the basic ideas of different existentialist philosophers
It's not like the game is just a slideshow of wikipedia-tier introductions to different ideas.
There's a narrative upon which they are built upon, which is coherent and quite tight on the details.
All the characters are there for a purpose, they all have aspects in common, they all represent different outlooks towards a similar issue.
If you saw all that and it didn't impress you then that's fine.
> everyone who took high school english gets it
lmao no
The average Joe is genuinely moronic and can't grasp any story that goes beyond Marvel capeshit.
thats mid gen z
t. mid gen z
>early
i was 20 when cuphead came out. do the millennials of Ganker really forget how old zoomers actually are? have millennials on here this whole time conflated gen z with really late gen z/gen alpha?
t. 1997 zoomer
>i was 20 when cuphead came out. do the millennials of Ganker really forget how old zoomers actually are? have millennials on here this whole time conflated gen z with really late gen z/gen alpha?
I was 15 when Cuphead came out. And it had no influence or effect on me because that was the political era for people my age so I had other shit to focus on. But yeah. People don't seem to know what actual zoomers are. It just seems to be a word that arbitrarily means "kids" which is moronic.
>that was the political era for people my age
???
yes..? do you not remember the election at that time?
You couldn't enjoy Cuphead at 15 because you were too obsessed with politics? Do americans really?
no, because people have lives outside of fatly playing video games all day in their basement and was focused on other stuff so didnt have the time to get into it at that time. is that a hard concept to understand? do fat loser neets really?
Chad was playing Cuphead with his friends while you were wasting your youth thinking about Trump lmao
no. there were just more interesting games to play when i had the time, fatty.
That's not what you said, you said "it had no influence or effect on me because that was the political era for people my age ", you fricking loser
NTA but it's called socialization. That's simply the shit people talked about around that time. Everyone was talking about that shit, because that's when SJW became a word, when Ben Shapiro was becoming a thing, and Jordan Peterson to, and if anyone remembers clearly, that's REALLY when all the trans shit started to take off because the attack helicopter meme comes from around that year.
So yeah. It's not exactly like I didn't have time to play videogames, it's just that it wasn't my focus and so I wasn't obsessively looking for new releases to play all the time. I guess you were a nerd or whatever?
>I was 15
>that was the political era for people my age so I had other shit to focus on.
what exactly did you spend your time and energy on in politics when you couldn't even vote
Minecraft or FNAF
>Cuphead
Content sparse but a fun game, if you're not shit you can S rank everything in 2-3 hours and have not much else to do
>Nier Automata
Gameplay overstays its welcome, good story and I do like the waifus
>Persona 5
I like persona/smt turn based gameplay but the cast of this game specifically was pretty weak, so it was just ok for me
>Undertale
Probably my favorite out of these 4. Really good outside of the lgbt shit and the meta elements, but it does characterization and worldbuilding very well with the fast 6 hour playthrough time it has, and I really like gimmicky turn-based games which this does pretty well.
>if you're not shit you can S rank everything in 2-3 hours
lol bullshit, show Cuphead playtime and S-ranks fraud. Cupheard S-ranks are brutally hard even for someone with a ton of retro, run and gun and shmup experience.
Meant to type A rank, those weren't bad.
Forgot expert got unlocked (and conversely S ranks) after beating the game or something so yes I am fraudulent :^)
Not that anon, but I could S rank almost all the bosses without that much trouble thanks to Miss Chalice. The only ones I have left are the bird one and a couple of the DLC ones. They made her too OP.
Cuphead is great
Cuphead is braindead Zoomer shooter
Name a harder run and gun. There are a few correct answers, but you won't name them because you are a no clears poser.
>Name a harder run and gun.
Contra on the NES
Nevermind, just a moronic poser. Completing Contra on NES no deaths with just the starting weapon is still easier than even just getting A-ranks on Cuphead.
>le "Dark Souls" of platformers
>entry that was responsible for casualizing the series
>coomer meme game
>Cave Story for Zoomers who don't know what Cave Story is
Glad I grew up with older siblings who introduced me to gaming early on so I actually got to grow up playing good games
I'm gonna be honest, it's Undertale. Nothing wrong with Persona 5, Nier, or Cuphead though they're good in their own right. I liked the run and gun aspects and the classic cartoon style of Cuphead, and I liked the visuals on Nier despite the game not really to my likings, and Persona 5 was alright I'm more of a Shin Megami Tensei type of guy.
Sell me on Cuphead. Maybe I misunderstood it. I really did want to like it but I just didn't. I'm this anon:
>Anyway. I didn't like Cuphead either. I have never played a single run and gun or whatever it's called. I just tried to engage with the level design and hated it. I don't remember why, I think I hated how rigid the shooting felt. It was like, either you only shoot at an angle, or straight forward, and that's triggered me because the levels DELIBERATELY try to annoy you with some moronic bullshit so...yeah. Games shit as far as I'm concerned. No idea why OP mentioned Cuphead instead of hollow knight, the better game anyway.
shin megami tensei iv
>early-gen-z core
Undertale is the only game that belongs on this list, everything else came out after I turned 18. Earlyzoomercore is 2006-2013.
>t. 98 zoomer
Cuphead: Good game with pretty good visuals and boss design.
P5: Reddit the game
Nier: looks okay.
Undertale: Good ideas and good fights. The pixel art is pretty mid. Some of the characters like Alphys are unbearable.
Persona 5 is fun but after 80 hours i skipped all dialogue and rushed the end
Other Zoomercore
Fnaf: Kinda mid franchise. The first few games were good, but made on a shitty outdated 2000’s engine.
Old Fnaf fan games: A lot of them aged like shit. IP + Fnaf gameplay got old quick.
Mascot horror as a whole: Primarly Slop, except for maybe Fnaf and Bendy.
Fortnite: Just slop
Happy Wheels: One of the few flash games I play today for real.
Minecraft: Kinda got old. Don’t want to deal with Microsoft’s bullshit.
Terraria: Could not figure out what to do without 9 gorrilion resources. Also the favourite game of one of my least liked YouTubers, Reddit Guy Mask.
Dark Souls: Became the COD of Single Player Games. Also phased out the based brawler (not calling it kharcuter actuion) genre.
Hollow Knight: One of the most overrated Reddit games. While not bad, still leaves a lot to be desired. With such a big map, the character moves to slow.
Shovel Knight: Actually based 8-bit throwback. Best part was the Kratos and Battletoads Cameos.
>undertale
Mogged by a literal puzzle game both in gameplay and a more clever and intricate use of a 4th wall gimmick.
Even the so praised and overrated music gets BTFO by it by Irisu's beautiful piano tracks.
Story is better also.
Zoomer indie shit is soulless nowdays.
Void Stranger is not good.