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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    This franchise is bad

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      not really a hot take

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It is when SV made 10 million dollarydoos in 3 days.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but sales numbers and critical reception can be diametrically opposed quite often. Sonic 06 is horrible but it was one of the Xbox 360s best sellers for a long time, outselling sonic Unleashed and Generations.
          A game can sell super well but still be called an objective piece of shit.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Room temperature. Only normalgays are still convinced this mediocre, enshittified JRPG is anything special. If it weren’t for the creatures themselves this shit would be dead.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    hoenn fricking sucks

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    meowscarda is garbage and skeledirge is better

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is just the truth

      there isn't a single thing gen 5 does better than gen 6

      I used to think at least the story is better but nah the story is dogshit in gen 5 too.

      I think they’re about equal

      Gen 9 has the best designs since gen 1

      They’re solid but not the best

      gen 5 is the worst looking gen in the series

      this shouldn't be a hot take but I see tons of morons unironically praise this game's graphics for some reason. I think zoomers just automatically praise any game that uses sprites regardless of the quality of said sprites.

      To be fully animated sprites on DS, best you could possibly do is maybe something between those images. That said, the best possible scenario WOULD have been a continual improvement upon B2W2’s visual style. Add battle backgrounds, give more variety to sprite animations, and improve the sprites themselves, etc.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >To be fully animated sprites on DS, best you could possibly do is maybe something between those images
        Anon what the frick are you talking about. Mario and Luigi BiS alone blow this argument out of the water.
        The problem is that they had too many Pokemon to animate, so they just half-assed it and settled on some looking decent and the rest looking like the sprite equivalent of a midday flash-animated cartoon from Canada

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't conceive the fact that this is actually kind of a hot take.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      A real hot take.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sword & Shield was enjoyable even though you can feel the cut content.

    Also, Dexit was necessary and the people who cry over it are literally stupid children who don't comprehend what it means to work with 3D assets.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      People who comment this don’t know how games are made or that all the models are from xy

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I may be moronic but I’m not wrong.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >posts texture when talking about models
          Smartest nu pokemon shill.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Uhhhh... the models were already made and ready. GF was either to lazy to do some basic data entry, or TCPI made them do the dexit in order to make HOME a money printer.

      Source: i'm a gamedev college graduate

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Checked. Pro-dexit brand monkey homosexuals blown the frick out. Imagine knowing shitfreak lied to your face and still sucking the shit right out of their bug-infested anus. Pokegays are an embarrassment.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >"Gamedev college graduate"
        >Thinks that 3D models are just drag-and-drop then work perfectly
        Your "degree" is worth shit, bro.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          he got quads so you better shut the frick up. dexit was a mistake

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          If they could asset import one Pokémon model, they could do it for all 1020+ with barely any effort. It really is just a simple importing of assets at this point with a small amount of coding, which woul take no more than 10 minutes each. GF is either lazy with data entry (which could be done with a team of interns over a month) or TCPI is holding them back to make miney off of HOME.

          So STFU and GTFO, dexit shill.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have never even heard of "rigging," have you?

            That includes FrLg and HgSs you knob.

            And for the record, those are all remakes of the old games.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You have never even heard of "rigging," have you?
              If rigging was such a difficult task then the ingame animations wouldn't be a completele copy of the XY animations.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              They’re still the same in terms of how much exp you’re getting.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              When GF made all the models, they were rigged too, genius, along with their skins and basic animations were finished. All of it was ready and future-proofed so they wouldn't have to keep making new models for every Pokémon every game. GF is lying, or TCPI is lying. End of. Take your L already.

              Also, explain this:

              >You have never even heard of "rigging," have you?
              If rigging was such a difficult task then the ingame animations wouldn't be a completele copy of the XY animations.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      While I agree that Dexit had to come eventually, the idea of a fully 3D adventure with our bro-mon has been my, and probably many others, dream for decades. It being done as the chance of it was coming into realization was a definite sore spot. The salt on the wound was that neither the game before or after were particularly great, so there was no Dexit ending on a high note nor obvious proof that Dexit was good in the long run. The 3D models take up space argument doesn't even hold that much water seeing just how unoptimized S/M is with the whole "50 Lillies" fiasco. It's likely Sw/Sh has even worse optimization.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    PLA is the best pokemon game since the DS era

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is objectively true
      Also, SV is worst than SHSW

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >This is objectively true
        no, because it implies the DS era games are good.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >implying it’s not true

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dexcut was good.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What a bunch of scorching takes, this could be reddit you guys are so controversial!

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ORAS doesn't have enough water.

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    SV is not only bad, but the worst Pokemon game by a wide margin
    And that shouldn't be a hot take

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it's a mess of a game
      SV was the first Pokémon game I didn't complete

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The process of transferring was needlessly obnoxious prior to Gen 6

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    BDSP is the best remake

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    People who post hot takes that are this cold are ugly.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    there isn't a single thing gen 5 does better than gen 6

    I used to think at least the story is better but nah the story is dogshit in gen 5 too.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      elite 4 rematches
      manga
      keep the focus on your its own generation (no, the "kanto clone dex" meme argument doesn't count)
      yes, the story is better
      difficulty (no, the "it's not hard, you just grew up" excuse doesn't work here)

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >elite 4 rematches
        I can rematch the e4 and mindlessly mash A them all I want in gen 6 just like in gen 5. npc rematches are fricking worthless content.

        >keep the focus on your its own generation
        you being asshurt at kanto pokemon existing doesn't mean gen 6 didn't focus on its own generation

        >difficulty
        clicking A to beat the NPC isn't harder than clicking A to beat the NPC.
        there were actually more battles in gen 6 I had a non-zero percent chance of losing thanks to Sky Battles existing.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you being asshurt at kanto pokemon existing doesn't mean gen 6 didn't focus on its own generation
          It doesn't matter, Unova still does a better job than Kalos at this, even with this weak attempt to hide this flaw.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Unova still does a better job than Kalos at this
            In what way?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >flaw
            Explain how it's a flaw.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Unova still does a better job than Kalos at this
              In what way?

              Because Mega Evolution has a shit distribution and both Z-Moves and Gigantamax "fixed" this problem.

              Yes, Kanto pandering (region and characters) hate is overrated on this board, but species pandering is unbearable, especially the Lucario circlejerk moment.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"doesn't matter" posting
          >misinterpreting the criticism to make it's critics looks dumb
          >"doesn't count because everything is shit, ignoring all nuance"
          This is tiring after years anon. Are you okay?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >strawman posting
            >crying when people respond to what your post actually said
            >things that are literally equal are nuanced because....I said so
            This is tiring after years anon. Are you okay?

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              I should have known copy pasta was coming right up.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        How is a game with 2 additional easy modes supposed to be harder?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          More challenging level curve, better AI, and a mode that actually let's you fine tune difficulty instead of easy and easier with XY.
          I don't care if you think the whole franchise is easy because you play like an autist speed runner instead of for fun, but Gen 5 is objectively harder than Gen 6.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >objectively
            lmao and the autism reveals itself.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Kalosgays use the word under every breath, oftentimes moronicly
              >Nothing
              >A Unovagay uses it once, arguably in an applicable way
              >NOOOOOOO YOU CANT USE THAT WORD

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's just as moronic when fans of other regions use it too.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking based.

        https://i.imgur.com/Ll1Qdx8.jpg

        what's your Pokémon hot take

        Every single pokémon created at the time MUST be included in the game. Otherwise, the game is absolute dogshit.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >elite 4 rematches
        fricking with e4 level 75 mons with level 50 mons is fun in the chauteau, and being poor in kalos IS a skill issue

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The entire Pokédex should only ever be cutemon, and waifumon. “Cool” is entirely wasted on this franchise. Design focus should only be on the aspects this franchise is excels at, cute and sexy cute.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're a gay.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The level curve in johto games is fine. You're just supposed to beat the pokemon league with a team of level 33-37 mons, then the level of trainers in kanto will finally start to make sense.

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Using age-related buzzwords, saying flaws are meme arguments and using future games as a scapegoat do not take away the flaws of your favorite games.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have any, all my opinions are cold as frick.
    >PLA is one of the best pokemon games ever
    >Gen 3-5 are the best
    >Gen 6-9 are trash

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cold but gold. Everything you said was true.

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have any, all my opinions are cold as frick.
    >gen 5 is shit

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Objectmons are generally good.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Skitty.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which mons are these from?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know!

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't the red thing on the right from that mosquito ultra beast?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pupitar or Gliscor on the left? The color reminds me of another pokemon too but I cant remember.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        left one is the mlp abomination from gen 5
        don't know what the other one is

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        left one is the mlp abomination from gen 5
        don't know what the other one is

        Apparently it's the Capture Styler from Ranger. Only way I could've been able to tell was if I recognized the beam.

        [...]

        kys noncontributory massreply homosexual

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite generation is better than your favorite generation

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nate is underrated

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Discordtrannies are now on moderation and banning the proofs.

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ribbongays are the true discordtrannies

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The duck isn't that bad. Actually it grew on me quite a bit.
    Just a very bold final evolution but thematically it fits well into the game.

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alolagays are slowly becoming the worst part of /vp/, and I imagine they will become the worst part once gens 10 or 11 come out.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      why's that?

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing wrong with DPPT's distribution. Just use the Game Corner TMs and/or the Move Tutor for coverage, it's actually quite easy to make different builds of pokemon compared to some of the other games.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      To add onto this, people use mons like Staraptor, Luxray, Lucario and Garchomp not because there's no other options (there very obviously is), but because these mons are so fricking damn cool.
      You don't see people claim Kanto has bad distribution because people use Nidoking.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      > it's actually quite easy to make different builds of pokemon compared to some of the other games.
      People don’t tend to really consider that sort of thing, but I suspect they made the dex smaller than hoenns to account for this exact reason. Players are given less options for Pokémon but in turn are more easily able to customized each mons movepool. I always find myself making use of coverage moves in gen 4, whereas I don’t as much in earlier Gens due to resources like TMs being rarer.

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 9 has the best designs since gen 1

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hot takes thread
    >it's flooded with the coldest takes ever

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      A Fire-type OHKO move doesn't exist yet, so everyone has to settle with using Sheer Cold.

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    pmd is one of the most unfun and boring spinoff titles in the entire franchise and there is absolutely nothing that warrants it having eleven different entries

  31. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon generally has good monster designs but will never have truly great monster designs because it is too focused on being marketable. Digimon, SMT, Dragon Quest, and even Yokai Watch will always blow Pokemon out of the water because they have found their niche.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Ironically Pokemon designs need to appear less monstrous for "marketability" whereas the more "niche" franchises can go all out

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    praising a game for how much """postgame""" it has is fricking moronic 99% of the time and a lot of the time the """postgame""" ends up just being a detriment to the game.

    >hurfff platinum locking off all its interesting encounters to moronic pokeradar/swarm/dual slot postgame gimmicks makes it good!
    >hurfff bw2 not even letting you fricking breed until the credits and having random NPCs nonsensically blocking half the routes makes it good!

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      gen 5 is the worst looking gen in the series

      this shouldn't be a hot take but I see tons of morons unironically praise this game's graphics for some reason. I think zoomers just automatically praise any game that uses sprites regardless of the quality of said sprites.

      Daring today, aren’t we. These are all objectively debunked several times over.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's impossible to defend no daycare or fossils before the post game.

  33. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    entry war discussion is completely moronic in a series where every entry is fundamentally the same game

    this isn't zelda. this isn't resident evil. it sure as frick isn't final fantasy.

    it's the same fricking game. the series has been so stale you can literally port the battle system from a 2023 title into a 2003 entry with ease

  34. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    gen 5 is the worst looking gen in the series

    this shouldn't be a hot take but I see tons of morons unironically praise this game's graphics for some reason. I think zoomers just automatically praise any game that uses sprites regardless of the quality of said sprites.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      praising a game for how much """postgame""" it has is fricking moronic 99% of the time and a lot of the time the """postgame""" ends up just being a detriment to the game.

      >hurfff platinum locking off all its interesting encounters to moronic pokeradar/swarm/dual slot postgame gimmicks makes it good!
      >hurfff bw2 not even letting you fricking breed until the credits and having random NPCs nonsensically blocking half the routes makes it good!

      >elite 4 rematches
      I can rematch the e4 and mindlessly mash A them all I want in gen 6 just like in gen 5. NPC rematches are fricking worthless content.

      >keep the focus on your its own generation
      you being asshurt at kanto pokemon existing doesn't mean gen 6 didn't focus on its own generation

      >difficulty
      clicking A to beat the NPC isn't harder than clicking A to beat the NPC.
      there were actually more battles in gen 6 I had a non-zero percent chance of losing thanks to Sky Battles existing.

      you get to share ONE (1) opinion with us, yawngay. not 3

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      who the frick looks at the back sprites during battle?

  35. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hoenn is really mediocre outside a few routes and most people praise it for nostalgia (or the BF)

  36. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 5 has a good, solid dex and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't. Alot of the pokemon here are underrated as frick.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      the most overrated ugly dogshit i've ever seen in my life

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >overrated
        What AU do you live on?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          true, they're properly rated outside of this contrarian mutt troony board

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw it's muttschizo again
            Okay, conversation done.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Anyone who can't criticize something without using some shitty nickname or buzzword is best disregarded.

  37. 6 months ago
    Chris “My Movies Make a Billion Dollars” Pratt

    Every rival, gym leader, elite 4, and champion should only use Pokemon that were introduced in their gen.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomer take

      SwSh was a better game than S/V

      Based

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really a hot take

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gen 3 baby

  38. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's been all downhill since gen 4

  39. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Powkemon was never good

  40. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    pokemon had already lost what made it interesting by the time GSC came out

  41. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon has never been particularly amazing compared to it's competition (even with the first gen notwithstanding as they were finding their footing) and by the time Gen 4 rolled around it was behind its' contemporaries in tons of ways that should've been called out. The fact that the quality has slipped so much as of late is 100% the fault of the completely uncritical masses who bought the games without question before, and the fact that people are now fuming about how the series' gone "downhill" while they get ignored by GF and sales continue to remain high is just karma.
    I say this as someone who's been playing since Gen 2 and loves the series to death btw. I was 100% part of the problem, but unlike a lot of people I actually admit it.

  42. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's ok to gen and competitive Pokémon isn't meant to measure your ability to brainlessly press buttons and grind items for 1 hour

  43. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Diantha is way hotter than Cynthia

  44. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sinnoh games are the only ones with actually well designed NPC teams

  45. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sinnoh is a better designed region than hoenn (and I love hoenn). It literally has all the same positives while having a better balance of water and land. I think what leads to people preferring Hoenn is that Hoenn is tropical and exotic while Sinnoh is quite simple and down-to-earth. None of the cities are as fantastical as places like Fortree, and none of the biomes are as unique as something like route 113. The environments and tilesets can get a little samey as well, especially in DP. But I think this is actually a positive thing overall, Sinnoh really benefits from the change in tone. Everything about it indicates it’s supposed to be a more grounded, believable region, right down to the focus on history and world-building for the Pokémon universe.

    Tldr I think Sinnoh is actually a top tier region but people just don’t really appreciate the value of what its trying to be

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      tbh it's just the current trend to shit on Sinnoh, people will move on in a few years.
      The road to Snowpoint City has yet to be topped in any pokemon game

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The road to Snowpoint City has yet to be topped in any pokemon game
        Based, finally another man with good taste in routes. Route 216/217 were the first time the series attempted a snowy area and they got it perfectly. The experience of trucking through an open snowscape in a thick blizzard, only staying coordinated due to a few scattered trees, before eventually reaching an isolated town at the northern tip of the region is absolutely amazing, helped in no small part by phenomenal music. People b***h that Sinnoh have more snowy areas, but I’m glad it didn’t, it made first reaching northern Sinnoh that much more impactful

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's why i can't take seriously anyone who claims Sinnoh has "no variety", like, entering route 216 for the first time honestly feels like you're entering another region entirely.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      tbh it's just the current trend to shit on Sinnoh, people will move on in a few years.
      The road to Snowpoint City has yet to be topped in any pokemon game

      >The road to Snowpoint City has yet to be topped in any pokemon game
      Based, finally another man with good taste in routes. Route 216/217 were the first time the series attempted a snowy area and they got it perfectly. The experience of trucking through an open snowscape in a thick blizzard, only staying coordinated due to a few scattered trees, before eventually reaching an isolated town at the northern tip of the region is absolutely amazing, helped in no small part by phenomenal music. People b***h that Sinnoh have more snowy areas, but I’m glad it didn’t, it made first reaching northern Sinnoh that much more impactful

      That's why i can't take seriously anyone who claims Sinnoh has "no variety", like, entering route 216 for the first time honestly feels like you're entering another region entirely.

  46. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    People who play Gen 1-3 using lower case letters in their names are homosexuals. Scream your pokemon's name like a man you fricking pussies.

  47. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    A Lv75 Seviper can wipe the floor with Cynthia's team.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      show us the battle

  48. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    apparently rare around here
    regarding GS leaks: we weren't robbed. not even a little bit. the vast majority of the beta designs were very bad and the ones that weren't are no great loss

  49. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    gen 5 where the last games worth playing

  50. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    XY are actually pretty good.

  51. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    SwSh was a better game than S/V

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      100%, especially with the DLC

  52. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon games are all shit
    i don't get these genwars it's like saying trash is better than garbage

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The spinoffs are better than the mainline games

  53. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >There is no such thing a bad Pokémon design.
    >SV is great and would have been better if delayed to a more powerful console.
    >Paradox mons were not a mistake
    >Smogon is filled with overrated whiners who's only response is "Ban it!" to something that takes more than 3 brain cells to outthink

  54. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Coomers are valid pokemon fans.

  55. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    megas were really fricking lame; ORAS sucked (because megas were fricking lame)

  56. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 1 is the worst gen.

  57. 6 months ago
    ethawnartist

    typhlosion is objectively better than charizard, and of course ethawn is above all ships

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kino

  58. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Switch era is objectively the best era.
    Old games aren't hard but they're very grindy if you actually want to use more than 2 Pokemon.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      What the actual frick are you talking about? I use like 12 mons on rotation in playthroughs of Gens 3 and 4 and still end up slightly overleveled as long as I don’t skip any battles. If you wanna argue the exp share better incentivizes using other mons that’s one thing, but to imply that the old games were inherently grindy in ANY capacity is tantamount to shouting loud and clear for all to hear that you were, are, and always will be a mega-shitter who’s opinion is worthless. For that to be the case, you’d have to actively try and fail to use pokemon at the levels they’d be at pre-grinding, an occurrence only possible if you’re a certified supreme-shitter

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Gens 3 and 4
        He said OLD games, child.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          That includes FrLg and HgSs you knob.

  59. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    pokemon is still good, you just got older

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pokemon is still good, but they really need to give the devs more time for what they've come to ask of them.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      no the modern games have many aspects that make them worse than older games. this just sounds trolling, either that or you're coping

  60. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    LGPE is the best and most fun Pokemon game since HGSS.

  61. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    z moves are better than megas

  62. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Galar is the was the only soulful 3D game

  63. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll never understand why people make such a big deal out of linearity/non-linearity. this board acts like linear game progression is a crime against humanity and that it's the worst thing ever. the fact that people say SV is better than anything since the 2D era games or simply a good game in general is proof of that. SV is a rancid dogshit that fixed none of SWSH's flaws but it has the open world meme so it's automatically good in their eyes

  64. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone treats Team Plasma as this understandable but misguided evil team when they're actually just a bunch of thugs who use people's empathy to steal their Pokemon.

    What annoys is people are still saying this ten years later.

  65. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I THINK ALL POKEMON SHOULD BE ANIMAL + ELEMENT

    ANYTHING ELSE IS WHACK AS FRICK

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I always found anti-animalgays incredibly dumb when an elemental mouse was used as the franchise mascot

  66. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 2 is overhated and complaining about the elite 4 level curve is for idiots who can't spend 10 minutes grinding in Victory Road.
    Gen 3 and 5 are peak.
    Sinnoh is very slow and boring. Has some of the most boring Pokémon and was the beginning of the power creep which instantly diamondized in future gens.

    Mewtwo and Ho-oh are the best legendary Pokemon lorewise. Everything else is weird JRPG tripe.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gen 2 is overhated and complaining about the elite 4 level curve is for idiots who can't spend 10 minutes grinding in Victory Road.
      Honestly, While I do agree that the level curve could adjusted better I never really got the complaints about Elite Four. Your pretty much expected to be underlevel but I never had much issues because my team tends to be in late 30s to early 40s. The only really difficulty is Lance and his hyper beams and outrages in gen 4

  67. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anti bbnders are trash because they treat me like trash. They are also hypocrites who get mad at us autistic people for caring about our imaginary animals even though it's not a big deal in real life but they care about about "muh internet Fandom discourse" and the reply section of a corporate Twitter account.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      this shouldn't be a hot take. pokemon are the namesake of the franchise. they are the most important aspect about the series

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Calling people trash is mean and therefore a hot take

  68. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Removing HMs was moronic game design
    >Random encounters aren't "outdated"
    >Convergent Pokémon like Toedscool are good and what all regional forms should have always been instead of cluttering up existing mons
    >Dexit was a necessary evil that was handled in the worst possible way in order to grift people into a subscription service. Transfers between games should have stopped entirely
    >There's no good reason for Pokémon games to have dropped the tile overworld

  69. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    There was no excuse for the Dexcut, and Game Freak lied to your faces.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tantrum thread is the other way, buddy.

  70. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate Taijiri's take on the series. A lot.

  71. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    the physical special split was the beginning of the end for anything resembling balance in the competitive scene.

  72. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dexcut turned out to be a blessing in disguise because it actually is giving us time to spend with old Pokémon that we normally would have just cast aside in older titles where they all came back at once. That said, cutting moves is stupid as frick and GF should just work harder to make them function better and feel balanced. Cutting moves produces less diversity and cuts out actual strategies fo certain Pokémon who feel the brunt of the cuts

  73. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Each new game is better than the last.

  74. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The easiest way to tell that the latest 2 generations are the worst to date is that people only make porn of about 3 pokemon from each gen. Horrible numbers, even gen 6 and 7 had a couple dozen decent options.

  75. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >room-temp
    Gen V is the second best after KANTOOOO
    >warm
    Despite all Ganker's "water and horns" shitflinging RSE are actually roughly as good as GSC.
    >hot
    SwSh are good, and better than the past two gens

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SwSh are good, and better than the past two gens
      I can agree with this.
      With all it's flaws, SwSh is still better than Gens 6 and 7

  76. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon needs a hard reboot if Game Freak refuses to hire more terminate positions to make the game. And we know Nintendo won't do anything as long as these games effortlessly sell over 15 million copes in three days.

    I mean a hard reboot. Scrap every single Pokemon that currently exists, give us a roster of 210 completely new mons. This will also be the perfect opportunity to overhaul entire mechanics.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cynthiagay
      Jesus Christ, SHUT UP.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        schizo?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          No Home

  77. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cynthia was never hard and Wallace is a more challenging champion than her

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wallace suffers from being monotype, of the same type the last gym leader had too.

  78. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    pokemon fans really like walking now

  79. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every long-time pokemon fan owes it to themselves and to this franchise to fap to a pokemon at least once.

  80. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    One day, technology will make technical limitations for game development a thing of the past; at least as we think of it today. When that day comes, it will be widely understood that Pokémon is the greatest concept for an entertainment franchise ever conceived.

  81. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sun and Moon are great games.

  82. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    just a good suggestion for TPCi: before they think of a new gimmick/move/ability/pokemon for the future games, they should always ask themselves first:
    >will Finchinator ban this on OU?
    if not, go through with it. if yes, forget it!

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      friendly reminder that red shirt guy cucked out and played immortal and d4

  83. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dexcut is largely irrelevant
    Pokemon games should never get voice acting
    Light dating sim aspects should be expanded on a little
    Grass should resist Fighting

  84. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 8 introduced some of my favorite Pokemon ever
    >Dracovish
    >Thievul
    >Dragapult
    >Toxtricity
    And the games were fine too. Nothing to get too excited about, but getting to know and use those four made it more than worth it. I still use the same Toxitricity from my first Sword playthrough in SV. I'm looking forward to seeing my Thievul and Dracovish again someday.

  85. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Clefable is the biggest piece of shit that was ever created. I'd love to put a bullet right between it's stupid fricking beady eyes

  86. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dex cut killed part of the mystic of Pokémon.
    At least for me. I no longer feel compelled to collect them all, and I don't care about gimmicks I know will not be there for the next generation.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You never actually enjoyed the games. You're just a mindless consoomer who only cares about the next product.

  87. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are only 151 Pokémon

    Completely unironic

  88. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon Consierge looks terrible and I hope it flops

  89. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    They should get rid of repetitive trainer battles and also rework the battle system. Focus on exploration and carching pokémon. Basically what they did with PLA but better.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. Replaying older games made me realize I actually fricking hate NPC trainer battles and 99% of the time they’re worthless filler content.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right? I feel like less battles make them feel more special. Specially if they are story-related.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      i think they should do the opposite. bring back battke facilities and make a Stadium 3

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think battle facilities are fine in theory, cause they are not mandatory and they usually have some kind of gimmick that makes them interesting. Maybe they need some rework too, though, since just doing long winning streaks is not necessarily a challenge but more like a pain in the ass, specially considering sometimes you lose because of RGN.

  90. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Breeding, IVs, EVs, and other optimization is still a pain in the ass.

  91. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bug types should be buffed. Significantly.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's a hot take? i've seen people complain about bug types being shit quite often

  92. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather a T-Rated Pokemon game be inspired by Earthbound instead of doing shit like Reborn.

    The Pokemon Company should just make an official statement about how that they'll never add the sound type.

    It'd be cool if we got a Pokemon game where the Pokemon rebel.... against Team Plasma. Like imagine exploring Unova in a timeline where Team Plasma won in Black and White, only for N's plans to separate humans and Pokemon, ends up spurring the Pokemon to rebel with several trainers working with them.

  93. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bug type should be the strongest type and frick over Fairies.

  94. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ice and Water should be immune to each other.

  95. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got plenty

    If your first game was from Gen 3 your opinion on Pokemon games is completely worthless.
    Every single fully evolved mon should be BST 500 at a minimum or have an ability that makes up for it.
    Every Pokemon that sucks without it's Mega should have gotten it's Mega turned into a Permanent Evo
    VGC is a trash format when it allows "Uber" legendaries.
    TPC should turn a blind eye to Genned mons if the stats/moves/ability etc are completely possible/legal

    Natures are bad for the game and actively make them worse

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      did you mean to say gne 3+? are you seriously singling out gen 3? what if my first gens were 1 and 4 at the same time
      >Every single fully evolved mon should be BST 500 at a minimum or have an ability that makes up for it
      holy shit yes. also, no SFMAs
      >TPC should turn a blind eye to Genned mons if the stats/moves/ability etc are completely possible/legal
      i have to agree with this too. if the set is still legal then complaining about genning and hacking is just pure autism

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >did you mean to say gne 3+? are you seriously singling out gen 3?
        I've seen a ton of very specifically bad opinions formed by gen 3 babies

  96. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Coomerbait Pokemon are fricking cringe and a pleague on the franchise. Also literal 10 year olds in the anime shouldn't be wearing crop tops with booty shorts.

  97. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lucario is not hot. Neither female nor male, on or off model.

  98. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    EVs are really dumb.

  99. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    not much of a hot take but I hate that pikachu and charizard are STILL everyone's favorites. Also feel that way slightly less about the eeveelutions.

  100. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The gameplay doesn't matter, as evidenced by continuously shit games printing money continuously. Gen wars don't matter. Linearity or PvP balance or level curve or graphics or bugs or whatever the frick nerd bullshit complaint you have doesn't matter.

    Plush. Cartoons. Comics. Cards. Fricking sleep apps. That matters. THE GAMEPLAY DOESN'T MATTER. You will continue to get expensive corporate slop that preys on the sunk cost of your childhood and you will buy it anyway.

    Look at it this way. Marvel. Cars. Internet. Food. Life. Literally everything is falling apart and worse than you remember and it doesn't matter BECAUSE YOU WILL BUY IT ANYWAY. People defend mediocrity because the alternative is admitting to wasting your life on worthless addictions. The fans doomed the franchise. Pokemon Red and Blue was a statement about postwar japan and RPGs at that moment. Everything after is money. Enjoy your cope.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >was a statement about postwar japan
      u wot

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        it was, unironically. a large part of it was criticizing rapid industrialization of rural japanese cities.

        the early pokemon gens do touch on issues that were talked about in japan at the time and of course it flies over our heads.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not really a hot take. The fandom is the worst part about this already mediocre franchise.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        > The fandom is the worst part about this already mediocre franchise.

        The fandom is the only thing keeping it alive. I would never have poured so many hours of my life into Pokémon if it weren’t for things like shoddy battle and showdown, Pokesav and PKHeX, countless romhacks and fan art and I even had a giant drinking game monopoly thing that was so fun to get smashed to with friends. Pokémon has the most passionate fans out of any game series I know. People put so much work into mons FOR FREE. Even /vp/ counts, as a consistently entertaining message board and probably the best place to shitpost about mons on the internet. I love the fans. I just wish some of the more fervent fans wouldn’t defend a corporation that doesn’t love them back. We deserve better.

  101. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love the Gen IV cross evos.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      same, froslass, gliscor, and migmagius are some of my all time favorite designs. only ones i don't like are ambipom, rhyperior, and lickilicky

  102. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    the age of consent is 18

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      😮

  103. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The dex cut was necessary to avoid meeting the same fate as Yu-gi-oh

  104. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game Freak should capitalize on the human characters more.

    Like have a webseries of them doing random stupid things.

  105. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It should be possible to raise any pokemon's base stats once it is fully evolved. They would follow the same base stat ratio, just keep going up until it hits a max (probably 600) that is the same for every pokemon. (Legendaries/mythics/whatever and gimmick mons like Slaking could be exceptions to this.)
    So your Metagross has a BST of 600, so there you go, no effort required. Your Beedrill can get to BST 600 but it'll just take a lot of grinding/work/items/something to show you training your shitmon to be the very best that no one ever was.
    I didn't think this was a hot take but I mentioned it to some pokemon players once and they lost their shit about how it would make strong pokemon worthless or something.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's literally what EVs are for

  106. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >heh, pokemon is actually......le bad
    Wow we've got badasses around here.

  107. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the Jannies are alright. Don’t (You) me

  108. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon go is for npc

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Pokémon is for npc
      fify

  109. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >oras shelly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old shelly
    I laught at people saying the older one was better, like they didnt even give a frick about her until oras came out. also I recommend to these gays stop using shigino sohuzi's fanart of old shelly like it was an official art for comparisons

  110. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Masters EX is good

  111. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 9 is the best nugen.

  112. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    ORAS is the best Pokémon game.

    >Main story is solid
    >Can choose between playing as best girl May or dating her
    >Exp Share can be toggled off for challenge runs.
    >Together with X&Y, you can get all national dex entries except for the mythicals which are not needed for the shiny charm.
    >Stays playable after bank shuts down due to full national dex access.
    >Strong ebay market for loaded cartridges if you want mythicals.
    >Dexnav
    >Great soundtrack
    >Has a battle facility
    >Megas
    >Soaring
    >Dive is actually good in ORAS
    >Solve mysteries
    >Delta Episode
    >You go to space!

  113. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    XY were the last decent Pokemon games, despite it's faults it added a lot of new features and felt ambitious overall they clearly had a vision that they didn't get to fully realize, like clearly story was unfinished and while I'm not into pokemon for story it feels rushed out and that normally isn't good, along with End game content being very weak.
    What makes is worse than most of the DS era is that it lacks that end game.
    And the routes aren't complete hallways like SM/USUM they did try.
    While on the lower end I still think they the best of the 3D era which is kind of pathetic shows how much heart was lost going forward.
    Even ORAS tried a little unlike BDSP.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >like clearly story was unfinished
      no it wasn’t

      the people who say this either didn’t pay attention to the game or are just patterngayging redditors who think it’s automatically unfinished just because GF didn’t resell them a copy of the game with a different thing on the box

      > What makes is worse than most of the DS era is that it lacks that end game
      this is also a moronic NPC take
      making 90% of the encounters geodude and zubat and locking all the good encounters to postgame like gen 4 doesn’t make the game better
      adding a copious amount of npc roadblocks that magically disappear after the credits to the point where I can’t even breed or revive fossils until postgame like gen 5 doesn’t make the game better

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        discord post

  114. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 1 isn't as good as we remember it, and the only reason it's important is because it's what started the series.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not even by today's standards gen 1 was trash even back then honestly, and Kanto is fricking nothing region.
      What pisses me off the most is that we got three remakes and non of them have made Kanto interesting, Kanto needs a glow up desperately, FRLG are the closest we got and they just added a few islands and that was it.
      LGPE had the chance to reimagine the region and they still reused the layout of an old Gameboy game that was outdated even back then.

  115. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know if it's a Hot take anymore...
    But Hoenn does have to much water and the issue comes down to so little variety in the water you have like one sunken ship and that's kind of it, not enough dive locations that have hidden dungeons or more sunken ships to make the amount of water feel justifiable.
    While having what are multiple islands is cool the fact that the ocean has the least to explore and find makes it much more of a drag not mention the encounters are really shit, 90% tentacool, why does a region that has so much water have the most repetitive encounters in the water, at the starting route I at least could find 3 Pokemon but in the water it feels like only 1 Pokemon exists, like so many Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn mons could have been placed in water but they fricking did so little like why!?

  116. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Instead of doing Dexit, they should've just made less new Pokémon. Maybe do only like 50 new ones per generation.

  117. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    they should just get rid of all the redundant abilities

  118. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are gen 6 defenders so autistic?
    They feel like modern day gen wunners but even most Gen wunners realized RBY were shit but frick you it was the shit for them so they still like it.

  119. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cartoon and recolored animals are the laziest designs and they should just stop making those

  120. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    hoenn's water is fine because most of the water routes are optional

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not in emerald

  121. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    All pokemon games after B/W2 are dogshit, with the exception of New Pokemon Snap.
    Yes that includes Arceus, dogshit.

  122. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's great that they are pandering more to female players now.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      women don't play the games. they play Pokemon go and collect stuffed toys

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a little sad that you don't even know how wrong you are.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh, sorry, CIS women

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >cis
            Go back to twitter.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              sorry sweaty, cis is a slur on X

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, so you're a falseflagging troony, got it.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                No i'm making fun of you for being a moron.
                Women don't play the mainline games

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Again, it's a bit sad that you're wrong and don't even know it. I know a handful of real women who do. I recommend talking to people sometimes.

  123. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 5 is the catalyst that started the downfall of Pokemon.

    it was a failed reboot

  124. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You should not catch them all.
    I did, and I regret it.

  125. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Charizard will not have a Terashill special form

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