When did it peak and why did it die?
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>peak
sun/RA2
>why did it die
it didn't sell call of duty numbers so must kill it
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Unironically soul
i played up until ra2. nothing after that looked good.
>missed out on Generals
really homie
that's the only CNC that still has an active scene because it's a true gemmie
no big deal
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT IF WE MADE A BASE BUILDING GAME BUT REMOVED ALL THE BASE BUILDING IN MOST OF THE MISSIONS
WHAT IF WE MADE IT ABOUT EXPLOIITING THE SHITTY AI AND HOPIGNTO T GOD THAT THE GRENADIER DOESN'T EXPLODE YOUR ENTIRE ARMY IN ONE SHOT WHAT WHAT WHAT IF WE GAVE THE PLAYER A FEW SHITTY UNITS AND FORCED THEM OT VERY S SLOWLY AGGRO ENEMIES ONE BY ONE AND PUNISHED THEM FOR EVER ATTACKING A HARVESTER BECAUSE THAT WILL AGGRO THE ENTIRE MAP AND END THE MISSION LOL WHAT IF WHAT IF WE MADE EVERY PROPER BASE BUILDING MISSION A VERY SLOW SLOG TOO WHERE YOU HAVE TO VERY SLOWLY ABUSE CHOKE THE AI INTO SUBMISSION UNTIL IT CAN'T CHEAT SPAWN A BILLION UNITS DUE TO THE MASIVE MONEY BOOST IT GETS BUT WHAT IF WE ALSO PUT A BILLION TURRETS EVERYWHERE SO THAT THE PLAYER IS STILL FORCED TO ABUSE ORCAS FOR HALF AN HOUR BECAUSE THE BASE IS OTHERWISE IMPENETRABLE WHAT IF WE PUNISHED ANY KIDN FO OFFISENSIVE BY MAKING THE AI SELL ITS BUILDINGS WHICK ALLOWS IT TO BUILD ANOTHER FRICKING OBELISK OH AND SELLING ALSO SPANWS EVEN MORE UNITS FOR HTEM TO DEAL WITH LOL
>peak
generals
>decline
zero hour. specifically rushing it
>why
ea are israelites
not saying zero hour was bad, i played it more than basegame generals, but it really isn't what it could have been
What was it supposed to be? I can't imagine playing Generals without all the cool-ass generals.
zero hour was supposed to be more content, more units, more individuality for each general. for example there are no maps for infantry general and demo general in zero hour but they where in work. you can play against demo in the shockwave mod btw, which literally advertises itself with being zero hour like it was meant to be. mod is a great deal of fun either way
I loved Shockwave back in the day and it's what I stayed on after getting bored of ZH, but it's just an expansion to the expansion and ZH still does a lot to improve upon vanilla. Vanilla doesn't even have the titular generals for fricks sake.
What are you thoughts on Contra? It seems to be the current go-to mod.
ZH has more content than generals, and arguably better (i have a grudge against the last few china missions in ZH though), but that's not my argument. My argument is that in ZH is the point where the decline starts because they took shortcuts on the side of content to rush a product that could have been even better. If you imagine it on a line chart, you will see the point of decline is the highest point of the charge. that's what i mean.
>thoughts on Contra
i haven't played it in depth because i found it too gimicky
>usa cyborg general / china flame general
>rank requirement for too many techs
>super units
i see from a game design standpoint where they came from, like rank requirements encouraging early skirmishing and super units breaking a lategame stalemate, but it just didn't click for me. Maybe because it felt like it encouraged playing streamlined metas in multiplayer matches which i never enjoyed.
For the most part i still just play shockwave
>I loved shockwave back in the day
just because ZH is old and i dont know what you mean by >back in the day: are you aware they updated it up to 2016?
>Peak
Tib Sun Firestorm
>peak
aesthetically, Tiberian Sun and RA2
gameplay-wise, Generals
>why did it die
EA bought them.
Heard the collection EA sells is actually good, can anyone confirm?
it's all of the games ready to play in one click
if you want to pay for your games or not deal with the hassle of mounting ancient boomer iso's then yes. even renegade was fun and that's the worst game in the pack.
it works and it's at a reasonable price. gotta get origin on your machine though which is kinda gay. also sometimes a little messy with patching / modding
I read online the steam version doesnt need origin.
>When did it peak
generals was the last good cnc game
they declined because EA got ahold of it and made nothing for a few years, then shit out soulless nu-cnc instead of generals 2.
the games aesthetic decline went from campy sci-fi/red scare parody RTS world with decent lore to goofy meme world with cnc 3 + ra. the modding community is still alive and people still play all of the games i consider good so it's not really a big deal.
generals
because EA
I never played a C&C