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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want new game+ hard mode

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mogged by RR and Unbound sadly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Unbound
      Fair tbh. Haven't played it but I hear nothing but great things. Should put it on my backlog while I wait for Clover 2.0.
      >RR
      Lmao.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You def should, greatest hack I ever played. One thing Unbound def has over RR that would make it more palatable to most is 4 difficulty modes. I only played Expert and Insane mode, for someone playing their first time I think Normal or Difficult might be best.
        Didn't mean to hijack this thread with my propaganda though

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah don't worry. This is a general Clover thread I wanted to make talking about the game but I do welcome recommendations. Been binging Pokerogue for shits so once that wears off I'm gonna hop on Unbound next.

          when Pokemon Sage comes out

          Considering this is a major update I'll expect this being done by next year or in 2 years tops, at best.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bet, I should check that one out. I've also heard amazing things about Gaia but I've yet to play it myself.

            nothing will ever top minimal grinding RR from a gameplay perspective

            Agreed, every run of RR I've used it + the nature changer and ability changing freedom is too good.
            If you take someone on Reddit's save file for Unbound who's unlocked the "God Scanner" you can pretty much edit the attributes for mons like it's Showdown so it's almost like having a different minimal grinding mode, wish more hacks implement stuff like that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're a tasteless moron for comparing a shitty difficulty romhack like RR to an actual new game like Unbound.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. Unbound isn’t as good as Clover but it’s still leagues above shitty slop like radical reddit or any other "game freak game but worse" shit
            If you can’t at the very least make a new region and story then your project is pointless, stop working on it. There are like 5 autists who will play it over the original and that’s it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nothing will ever top minimal grinding RR from a gameplay perspective

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No fakemon, no play.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RR has Seviian forms tho

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Does it have a wiki with them, and if not can you post them? I want to see how many/if they're good. I've seen some hacks with regional forms that are literally just recolors and that's shameless.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're all terrible, to save you the time.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Damn, no play then.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gotchu bro, you can go to https://dex.radicalred.net/ and type in "Sevii" to see the full current list of them (they're all pretty strong), the shinies you might have to look up on Google Images.

            I also recommend Altered Platinum for Sinnohan forms, there's 30ish of them and they're also really sick, the hack uses Renegade Platinum as a base too and even has custom shinies!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://projectpokemon.org/home/forums/topic/60361-pok%C3%A9mon-altered-platinum-sinnohan-forms-increased-difficulty-and-more/

              They're all terrible, to save you the time.

              I liked a lot of them, I think Lokix-S is the most underwhelming power wise but it does get Dragon Dance (I haven't used it tbf)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most of these are alright, though I don't see why Sinnoh's environment would turn Flygon into an airplane.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think so too, they're all reallly strong too.
                I think Flygon is supposed to be a rocket ship, a random npc in Sunnyshore says that nobody knows how they came to be, and maybe just appeared one day like Magnemites.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              A few of the shinies + Mega-Seviskorch-S

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://projectpokemon.org/home/forums/topic/60361-pok%C3%A9mon-altered-platinum-sinnohan-forms-increased-difficulty-and-more/
              [...]
              I liked a lot of them, I think Lokix-S is the most underwhelming power wise but it does get Dragon Dance (I haven't used it tbf)

              Man they look like shit. Quarantine Crystal remains the only game with good creature design.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >nugen garbage gimmick forms
          Thank you for proving our point

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll add one more recommendation, although I haven't played this one yet, Blazing Emerald: https://pokemon-blazing-emerald.fandom.com/wiki/Hoennian_forms
        Most of the new forms look really cool imo so I'm definitely planning to get around to it myself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RR has Seviian forms tho

        RR also added pic related recently too

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >palworld
          how low will radical reddit stoop?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cool another good reason not to play RR

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >radical reddit
      I say this with complete sincerity. You need to commit suicide. Clover is a new game. radical reddit is a gay fricking difficulty mod of an existing game. If I wanted to play fire red the millionth time I would fricking play fire red again. Go frick yourself you moronic Black person brained c**t.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're just dogshit at the game and filtered, also a worthless chud, kys.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >chud
          Thanks for proving my point that radical redditors are trannies.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >chud
          Thanks for proving my point that radical redditors are trannies.

          >he doesn't know everyone can tell this is a samegay
          lol
          keep posting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            samegay

            Swing and a miss

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >chud
          Thanks for proving my point that radical redditors are trannies.

          samegay

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you first tourist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Let's do it together 🙂

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you first autist, also pokemon clover is a shoddy kanto "repaint" with shitty fakemons (mostly stolen along with their assets) and transphobic remarks that makes twitter karens seethe, also don't forget le anti-cheat measurement that can be triggered randomly even if you don't use rare candies or illegal critters.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >filtered because he can't cheat
          >filtered because he will never be a real woman
          Clover really is based kek

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >see, the autist admited to chop his own dick and put in a time capsule
            lol lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stay mad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No u glowie

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You actually used the term 'transphobic' unironically. Opinion disregarded.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Uronically you're still a b***h and still mocking twitter karens, Opinion discarded.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't respond to the robot, you'll just feed into their ChatGPT response that rephrases whatever you say to it

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >le robot
              >le ChatGPT
              Jesus christ, autists like you are insufferable and pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Let me try harder than you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Say a factual criticism
                >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUH CANNED RESPONSE

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"factual" criticism
                Arguing in bad faith is not criticism.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yet another boogeyman
                I don’t even have the slightest clue about this one.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm well aware you have no idea what a bad faith argument is. You're in this thread proving that fact every time you post.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >xir sharts xir misses

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm going to piss and shit myself and no one can stop me!
                Bold strategy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >normal day in pokemon clover's discord.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >aislop

                >"factual" criticism
                Arguing in bad faith is not criticism.

                >parroting

                I'm well aware you have no idea what a bad faith argument is. You're in this thread proving that fact every time you post.

                There was no argument to begin with. Pokemon clover is the worst bullshit ever; that’s a fact. Poclowns lost so hard you all stopped even trying to argue.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God I hate AI

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Peak autism

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based.
        Reminder! Every single rom hack that has an official game title in its name is objectively worse than said official game. Every. Single. One. No exceptions.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. Unbound isn’t as good as Clover but it’s still leagues above shitty slop like radical reddit or any other "game freak game but worse" shit
          If you can’t at the very least make a new region and story then your project is pointless, stop working on it. There are like 5 autists who will play it over the original and that’s it

          Vanilla Pokemon games can be beaten by 5 year olds who have no concept of type matchups and base stats and no knowledge of what most moves and abilities do. Such a fricking stupid thing to say that you gotta be trolling. Drayano hacks alone with the ability to get nearlyvall national dex mons by the E4 and solid boss teams is a major improvement, and he includes optional patches for Pokemon changes too.

          >This hack gets [spammed and brought up for no reason in an unrelated thread] and then and you guys lose it because [headcanon]
          I genuinely don't get your reasoning. You act moronic and then you act like it's a big surprise when other people call you a moron. And your only response to people telling you to stop shilling this game when it's offtopic is "uhhh g-git gud lol".
          Seriously, you're an actual parasite. Not even the incessive coomers on this board are as bad or moronic as you are.
          [...]
          Kek, this.

          I'm not just talking about this thread, and I already apologized to OP twice for getting off-topic and derailing the thread, even though I don't care for Clover lol.
          Every single time someone mentions Radical Red in any context and even in its own dedicated threads these buttholes complain and cry about it. Most of the time the reason given is the difficulty, so yeah, I wouldn't call it headcanon. It would be better if they just hid or saged or filtered the threads, but they always gotta chime in to let us know how shit they are.
          The other complaints about bloat and QoL are so worthless they're not even worth addressing.

          I beat Radical Reddit, it's not difficult it's a puzzle game. You figure out the optimal team for each gym, waste 10 hours of your life grinding up a whole new team for that gym, then repeat for all the gyms and the E4/champion. It is as far from an actually difficult game as you can get, because there are objectively best ways to beat each roadblock. It doesn't make you think, it doesn't test your skill at the game, it makes you waste time and figure out how to cheese the AI the easiest.

          Maybe on Hardcore Mode I'd agree, but Normal isn't that brutal unless you're using multiple shitmons, and training up new mons takes virtually no time between minimal grinding mode, nature changer in every center, built-in rare candy code, move tutor in the summary screen, dexnav scouting... cmon bro... actual minutes to make a new team of 6.

          Wrong, all three are the same tier of dogshit unfun garbage. Except Clover is also full of outdated, unfunny garbage.

          Curious about what's your ideal hack? Do you even play any?

          You're a tasteless moron for comparing a shitty difficulty romhack like RR to an actual new game like Unbound.

          The only comparison I made between them was the difficulty options in Unbound being much more diverse than RR which is my one main gripe with it personally, in the context of speaking to someone who wasn't interested in RR. Obviously they're incomparable otherwise, asides from RR using Unbound creators CFRU engine (shoutouts to Skeli).

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Vanilla Pokemon games can be beaten by 5 year olds who have no concept of type matchups and base stats and no knowledge of what most moves and abilities do
            And?
            I didn’t say they were harder, I said they were better.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >And?
              I didn’t say they were harder, I said they were better.
              .__. ... you haven't even given a single reason why, I'd love to hear this.

              >minimal grinding mode, nature changer in every center, built-in rare candy code, move tutor in the summary screen, dexnav scouting... cmon bro... actual minutes to make a new team of 6.
              So it's just a shitty battle sim and not an actual game. Got it.

              >So it's just a shitty battle sim and not an actual game. Got it.
              It's just a harder FireRed with some new modern shit, that's it. It's still the Kanto campaign. With that logic every Pokemon game is just a shitty battle sim, but even shittier.

              >Vanilla Pokemon games can be beaten by 5 year olds who have no concept of type matchups and base stats and no knowledge of what most moves and abilities do.
              Unovatroony and beyond detected. Just so you know, before GF made the games super easy for your newfan ass, Kanto Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh were an actual challenge for kids all the way up to fourteen. You don't think they're hard because you only played classic Pokémon when you were already an adult and used guides/bulbapedia.

              >Unovatroony and beyond detected. Just so you know, before GF made the games super easy for your newfan ass, Kanto Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh were an actual challenge for kids all the way up to fourteen. You don't think they're hard because you only played classic Pokémon when you were already an adult and used guides/bulbapedia.
              It's funny how you couldn't be more wrong if you tried about me, you missed every dart. I grew up with gen 3/4. I was able to beat the games with an overleveled starter, some healing fodder, and a frickton of Revival Herb spam. If you lose to the E4 you probably got enough levels to brute force it even further. Stop coping, Pokemon is only difficult if you're a child and/or know absolutely nothing about the mechanics. That's why there's such a large romhacking scene, among other reasons.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's still the Kanto campaign.
                Because nobody here has ever played Kanto before, am I right?
                >With that logic every Pokemon game is just a shitty battle sim, but even shittier.
                Other Pokemon games don't load you up on instant gratification mechanics right out of the gate if you don't actually feel like playing the game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because nobody here has ever played Kanto before, am I right?
                That wasn't your point though, but yeah even dusty ass Kanto is much more engaging when the fights are harder, you have more variety, and you got new story elements like Teaming with Brendan vs Archie and Arianna or battling Giovanni with Lance in Cerulean.
                >Other Pokemon games don't load you up on instant gratification mechanics right out of the gate if you don't actually feel like playing the game.
                You're not even making sense. You were the same anon that complained about taking hours to train up new mons? But now the options you missed are instant gratification mechanics? I've grinded for natures and levels a lot in my life, I don't miss doing it one bit, the gameplay is the battles. They're all optional too.

                > you haven't even given a single reason why
                Actually coherent ecosystem and region design instead of fan service spam distribution
                Actual exploration to get items instead of the game giving you everything for free
                Coherent level curve instead of muh rare candy level cap homosexualry
                IVs and nature actually make the ecosystem believable instead of being stuff you can change at will
                EVs actually serve their purpose, being EFFORT values that reward effort
                1/8192 shiny odds
                HMs, which help with the adventurous feel of the game
                Doesn’t randomly add shit like Johto gym leader out of nowhere before each gym (especially since it makes zero narrative sense why they’re there, you just happen to find one before each gym, all in order, wow what a coincidence)

                I could go on, qolshit hacks like radical reddit are no better than BDSP

                >Actually coherent ecosystem and region design instead of fan service spam distribution
                Like we haven't all heard the Sinnoh fire types meme before, even in Platinum when they improved it one of them was a trade evo[lol], one was a starter, and one was a rare Eeveelution. More mons actually makes this better because you get more diversity between the jungles, caves, forests, rivers, oceans, ect. If you love only seeing Wingulls and Tentacools when half the region is an ocean be my guest. Greatly improves replay value and strategy freedom too.
                >Actual exploration to get items instead of the game giving you everything for free
                Very romhack dependant. Some like Dio Vento's hacks place emphasis on comp item availability, in most they're still usually rare. In RR you get rewarded for exploration with Mega Stones scattered about.
                >Coherent level curve instead of muh rare candy level cap f*ggotry
                Drayano's SGSS fix Johto (and Kanto's) fricked curve by linearizing the region to great effect. The higher average levels and exp gain means you get access to late-evos sooner. Also level caps are based, you don't need to overlevel to beat CPU opponents, you have everything going for you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > you haven't even given a single reason why
                Actually coherent ecosystem and region design instead of fan service spam distribution
                Actual exploration to get items instead of the game giving you everything for free
                Coherent level curve instead of muh rare candy level cap homosexualry
                IVs and nature actually make the ecosystem believable instead of being stuff you can change at will
                EVs actually serve their purpose, being EFFORT values that reward effort
                1/8192 shiny odds
                HMs, which help with the adventurous feel of the game
                Doesn’t randomly add shit like Johto gym leader out of nowhere before each gym (especially since it makes zero narrative sense why they’re there, you just happen to find one before each gym, all in order, wow what a coincidence)

                I could go on, qolshit hacks like radical reddit are no better than BDSP

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally don't care about any of the stupid shit you mentioned.
                If I want muh comfy adventure with super slow burn RPG stat increasing and item drops being rare I'll just replay a mainline game like Legends Arceus or get into cart breeding/competitive.

                When I play a *rom hack*, I already know it's going to be a little janky and will never have the new region fresh luster of an official game. It's existing tilesets etc. slapped together by a Hispanic in his basement, and that's fine. Perfectly fresh regions and pure polish/novelty will never be their strengths.
                If I go into a rom hack I want things I can't get in mainline games.
                Harder fights. Different stats and types. QoL. Things that prevent cheese unlike main games (level caps, hyper potions in battle). Ability redistribution. etc.
                This has been the standard expectation for hacks since the beginning of the concept. Hyper Metroid, Shin Megami Tensei III Hardtype etc., there are countless fanbases for different games who know exactly what they're getting into when they decide to play a completely free hack that makes shit hard, removes fluff but still uses a lot of the base game.
                PokéBlack folk are the only morons and manchildren who complain about free rom hacks actually doing exactly what rom hacks are supposed to do.

                but your opinion doesn't matter, the public has decided games like RR and Elite Redux are kino and so they appropriately get the most fanfare, updates and videos made about them. I'd say make your own hack but I know you're incapable. Cry more

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >making up moronic shit: the post
                Turns out the things that matter in romhacks are having a new experience, not autistic number tweaking and rereleasing the same shitty game that gamefreak already laid out. That's why Unbound and Clover blow your shitty reddit hack out of the water.
                >uses the term kino unironically
                lmao I knew you were one of those types

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's why Unbound and Cloaca
                just like diarrhea in the pool.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > When I play a *rom hack*, I already know it's going to be a little janky and will never have the new region fresh luster of an official game
                Sounds like you just play bad rom hacks.

                >Because nobody here has ever played Kanto before, am I right?
                That wasn't your point though, but yeah even dusty ass Kanto is much more engaging when the fights are harder, you have more variety, and you got new story elements like Teaming with Brendan vs Archie and Arianna or battling Giovanni with Lance in Cerulean.
                >Other Pokemon games don't load you up on instant gratification mechanics right out of the gate if you don't actually feel like playing the game.
                You're not even making sense. You were the same anon that complained about taking hours to train up new mons? But now the options you missed are instant gratification mechanics? I've grinded for natures and levels a lot in my life, I don't miss doing it one bit, the gameplay is the battles. They're all optional too.

                [...]
                >Actually coherent ecosystem and region design instead of fan service spam distribution
                Like we haven't all heard the Sinnoh fire types meme before, even in Platinum when they improved it one of them was a trade evo[lol], one was a starter, and one was a rare Eeveelution. More mons actually makes this better because you get more diversity between the jungles, caves, forests, rivers, oceans, ect. If you love only seeing Wingulls and Tentacools when half the region is an ocean be my guest. Greatly improves replay value and strategy freedom too.
                >Actual exploration to get items instead of the game giving you everything for free
                Very romhack dependant. Some like Dio Vento's hacks place emphasis on comp item availability, in most they're still usually rare. In RR you get rewarded for exploration with Mega Stones scattered about.
                >Coherent level curve instead of muh rare candy level cap f*ggotry
                Drayano's SGSS fix Johto (and Kanto's) fricked curve by linearizing the region to great effect. The higher average levels and exp gain means you get access to late-evos sooner. Also level caps are based, you don't need to overlevel to beat CPU opponents, you have everything going for you.

                > Like we haven't all heard the Sinnoh fire types meme before
                Yes and it’s a dogshit meme, fire types are not important and there’s nothing wrong with DP’s distribution
                > Very romhack dependant
                Yeah, some rom hacks are good, others are trash
                >censoring homosexualry when quoting my post
                Holy shit, have a nice day troony

                So much to address here I need to make 2 posts...
                >IVs and nature actually make the ecosystem believable instead of being stuff you can change at will
                >EVs actually serve their purpose, being EFFORT values that reward effort
                Again, romhack dependant. Most I've seen don't even have options to change natures or IV's, or it's a taxing process. Same with EV's. Minimal Grinding modes are rare, and a lot of people hate the arbitrariness of these systems anyways. If you don't want to interact with QoL features you don't have to.
                >1/8192 shiny odds
                Drayano includes optional shiny rate patches, some more hacks that use gen 6+ odds could stand to do it more though. I used to care about this a lot too but not so much these days.
                >HMs, which help with the adventurous feel of the game
                Gen 7 and BDSP had the only good applications for field moves. HM's like Cut, Flash, and Rock Smash are just obnoxiously bad and nobody likes wasting move slots on moves that aren't Surf or Waterfall, and if you had a water type that leans physical or special then the other move is still problematic, to say nothing of Dive. HM's would be great if they were all solid moves with extremely deep learnsets, but they weren't, and they're antiqated now.
                >Doesn’t randomly add shit like Johto gym leader out of nowhere before each gym (especially since it makes zero narrative sense why they’re there, you just happen to find one before each gym, all in order, wow what a coincidence)
                Johto is right next to Kanto, so it's not so Farfetch'd. The fights are all optional iirc, and spice up the region with familiar faces and new challenges to round out some of the types not used by the other gym leaders. You even get cool items out of them like an Eviolite from Whitney. I thought you didn't want items for free? A random npc nobody in a random building in Castelia City is the first one to ever hand out an Eviolite, maybe rewarding exploration but not something hard fought.
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                > Gen 7 and BDSP had the only good applications for field moves
                LMAO
                God I actually hate your generation of players so much. You’re the reason why modern pokemon games AND fangames suck ass. Gens 6+ were a mistake and should never have existed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes and it’s a dogshit meme, fire types are not important and there’s nothing wrong with DP’s distribution
                Majority of people disagree, that's why people complain about it so much.

                >Yeah, some rom hacks are good, others are trash
                This coming from the person that said every single romhack with a maingame title in it is worse than its namesake? Horseshit, you're not even consistent. How would they be good if they're worse than the vanilla base? All my argumejts have been around games like RR, Inclement Enerald, Drayano/Dio Venti hacks, not shit like Unbound or Gaia.

                f*ggotry when quoting my post
                I knew your dumbass was gonna hone in on that instead of the countless other arguments that you have no response to, fricking troglodyte.

                >God I actually hate your generation of players so much. You’re the reason why modern pokemon games AND fangames suck ass. Gens 6+ were a mistake and should never have existed.
                Nobody sane misses wasting move slots on an HM so they don't have to wack through Rock Tunnel blind or get through Victory Road. Modern games suck ass because Pokemon is too big to fail and they know it. If they followed your ideals they'd be even shittier which is an accomplishment.

                > that piece of shit joke of a remake is about as faithful to vanilla DP as you can get
                Damn really? How do I use an HM in BDSP? How do I catch my friend’s flag in BDSP? How do I focus my training on a single pokemon in BDSP? How do I get a full odds shiny in BDSP? Why am I overleveled all the time? Why do I have amie shit? Why are letters removed from the ball capsules? Why is there random mons shoehorned into the underground with them scaling to my level (ah yes level 68 Ralts) and not even having entries in the regional dex?
                BDSP has more in common with your shitty qolslop hacks than DP, you even have the pkhex qolshit in the post game

                Yes I exaggerated a bit, but my point was that most of what you listed as "pluses" for vanilla games line up more with BDSP being mostly faithful to DP which is funny. BDSP is faithful and unfaithful in all the wrong places, even the following mechanic is scuffed. Non-optional exp share and amie shit is turbo aids too I'm glad we can at least agree on that.
                The underground exclusives are just Platinum mons no? Don't tell me your "coherent ecosystem" brainrot reaches even to 3rd version dex expansion mons. It's not as faithful but it's also one of the only things they kinda did right.
                >postgame pkhex qolshit
                I couldn't be fricked to play the postgame, what are you talking about exactly?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Majority of people disagree
                Majority of people are moronic especially in the modern world
                > How would they be good if they're worse than the vanilla base?
                Cause they’re usually based on good games. Not many people do gens 6+ rom hacks.
                > I knew your dumbass was gonna hone in on that
                Doesn’t explain why you did it doe
                > Nobody sane misses wasting move slots on an HM
                That’s the opposite, only sane people do which is why sane people don’t play nugen games and qolshit rom hacks, these communities are full of mentally ill trannies.
                > If they followed your ideals they'd be even shittier
                But the old games follow my ideals and they’re objectively better.
                > but my point was that most of what you listed as "pluses" for vanilla games line up more with BDSP being mostly faithful to DP
                But this is wrong? BDSP is full of moronic qolshit. Give me one thing I listed that BDSP does.
                > The underground exclusives are just Platinum mons no?
                No, and even if they were it wouldn’t change the fact that they aren’t in the regional dex like in Platinum, that them being in the underground makes no sense, that them scaling to your level is janky game design.
                > I couldn't be fricked to play the postgame, what are you talking about exactly?
                IV and nature changers, the usual horse shit you find in qolshit rom hacks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So much to address here I need to make 2 posts...
                >IVs and nature actually make the ecosystem believable instead of being stuff you can change at will
                >EVs actually serve their purpose, being EFFORT values that reward effort
                Again, romhack dependant. Most I've seen don't even have options to change natures or IV's, or it's a taxing process. Same with EV's. Minimal Grinding modes are rare, and a lot of people hate the arbitrariness of these systems anyways. If you don't want to interact with QoL features you don't have to.
                >1/8192 shiny odds
                Drayano includes optional shiny rate patches, some more hacks that use gen 6+ odds could stand to do it more though. I used to care about this a lot too but not so much these days.
                >HMs, which help with the adventurous feel of the game
                Gen 7 and BDSP had the only good applications for field moves. HM's like Cut, Flash, and Rock Smash are just obnoxiously bad and nobody likes wasting move slots on moves that aren't Surf or Waterfall, and if you had a water type that leans physical or special then the other move is still problematic, to say nothing of Dive. HM's would be great if they were all solid moves with extremely deep learnsets, but they weren't, and they're antiqated now.
                >Doesn’t randomly add shit like Johto gym leader out of nowhere before each gym (especially since it makes zero narrative sense why they’re there, you just happen to find one before each gym, all in order, wow what a coincidence)
                Johto is right next to Kanto, so it's not so Farfetch'd. The fights are all optional iirc, and spice up the region with familiar faces and new challenges to round out some of the types not used by the other gym leaders. You even get cool items out of them like an Eviolite from Whitney. I thought you didn't want items for free? A random npc nobody in a random building in Castelia City is the first one to ever hand out an Eviolite, maybe rewarding exploration but not something hard fought.
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              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I guess make that 3 posts, can't say I give lazy responses.

                >I could go on, qolshit hacks like radical reddit are no better than BDSP
                HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHA
                the only good thing BDSP did was the Poketch HM's. With all your points made I'm surprised you don't like BDSP, that piece of shit joke of a remake is about as faithful to vanilla DP as you can get, and they tick a lot of your boxes.

                well, I appreciate you listing out your reasons, even if I agree with almost none of them. I returned the favour and addressed all of them, maybe we find common ground on at least a few points.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > that piece of shit joke of a remake is about as faithful to vanilla DP as you can get
                Damn really? How do I use an HM in BDSP? How do I catch my friend’s flag in BDSP? How do I focus my training on a single pokemon in BDSP? How do I get a full odds shiny in BDSP? Why am I overleveled all the time? Why do I have amie shit? Why are letters removed from the ball capsules? Why is there random mons shoehorned into the underground with them scaling to my level (ah yes level 68 Ralts) and not even having entries in the regional dex?
                BDSP has more in common with your shitty qolslop hacks than DP, you even have the pkhex qolshit in the post game

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >minimal grinding mode, nature changer in every center, built-in rare candy code, move tutor in the summary screen, dexnav scouting... cmon bro... actual minutes to make a new team of 6.
            So it's just a shitty battle sim and not an actual game. Got it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Vanilla Pokemon games can be beaten by 5 year olds who have no concept of type matchups and base stats and no knowledge of what most moves and abilities do.
            Unovatroony and beyond detected. Just so you know, before GF made the games super easy for your newfan ass, Kanto Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh were an actual challenge for kids all the way up to fourteen. You don't think they're hard because you only played classic Pokémon when you were already an adult and used guides/bulbapedia.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, Quarantine Crystal is better than Crystal. Only example though. Aside from ones that just do QOL stuff.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Quarantine Crystal is better than Crystal
            How?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Unironically better designs. It’s the only fan game with good designs I’ll say that much though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s subjective though. What makes it objectively better than Crystal?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nothing special

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go have autism somewhere else, moron

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is an autism only site, frick off newbie zoomer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You post like an autist

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        giving autists internet access was a mistake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong, all three are the same tier of dogshit unfun garbage. Except Clover is also full of outdated, unfunny garbage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >outdated, unfunny garbage
        you got mad about troony portrayal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thread immediately derailed
      Ffs, anyway I played Radred like 3 times I think and it always gets boring as hell before even reaching the 3rd gym.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did the Clover devs ever say what their opinion on Minimal Grinding modes were?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    when Pokemon Sage comes out

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    was thinking of playing this but was gonna wait for this update. How much would I be missing out on if I just bit the bullet and played it now?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      2.0 is gonna bring some massive QoL updates. Making the dex good so you don't have to rely on Reddit 80% of the time, an music player, alongside some other aspects that'll completely make the game feel "new". I'd say play the newest version anyway since some of this stuff seems post game. Also new OST tracks from what I've seen.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also don't forget to donate to our patreon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s already the best pokemon game. Play it now, 2.0 won’t be for another several years

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will never stop being amazed by how Radical Red makes people seethe to this day just by existing. It causes even more seethe here than the hacks with pronoun selectors and non-binary characters, it's amazing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah go figure why an astroturfed piece of shit babies first number tweaker hack is disliked by people being aggressed by you spamming it.
      Buy an ad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That anon isn't even the one who mentioned it, it was me. Radical Red has a lot going for it, and it has every Pokemon in existence now too, even the dlc mons.
        This hack gets brought up in a random thread now and then and you guys lose it because you can't even beat it lol. I don't like pokegirl thread spam or majority of the other threads pushed here but I don't throw tantrums in them, get a grip.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a tumblr tier number tweaker that is bloated to frick trying to stuff 1000 pokemon into Kanto and has nothing going for it when you can just play fire red since it's otherwise the exact same game. Frick off shill.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bloated meme again lol. You mean it has more options? More replayability? More QoL and freedom? You can add a built-in code to have a completed dexnav then use the dexnav to instant-search any mon, you can change the time of the day at anytime. In FireRed you can't even evolve a Golbat lol. I'm not a shill because I kentioned something I like, I'm not being paid and I'm not on the dev team, you guys are just contrarians.
            Anyways we've really gotten off-topic.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I mean you should QoL yourself

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This hack gets [spammed and brought up for no reason in an unrelated thread] and then and you guys lose it because [headcanon]
          I genuinely don't get your reasoning. You act moronic and then you act like it's a big surprise when other people call you a moron. And your only response to people telling you to stop shilling this game when it's offtopic is "uhhh g-git gud lol".
          Seriously, you're an actual parasite. Not even the incessive coomers on this board are as bad or moronic as you are.

          >make bad game
          >start shilling bad game everywhere
          >people play it
          >"wow that’s bad"
          >I will never stop being amazed by how Radical Red makes people seethe to this day just by existing. It causes even more seethe here than the hacks with pronoun selectors and non-binary characters, it's amazing

          Kek, this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buy an escape rope.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          while hearing the song "we are the champions"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SouperCell made lightning in a bottle, a romhack that makes some people start seething as soon as it's mentioned. A revolutionary really.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >make bad game
      >start shilling bad game everywhere
      >people play it
      >"wow that’s bad"
      >I will never stop being amazed by how Radical Red makes people seethe to this day just by existing. It causes even more seethe here than the hacks with pronoun selectors and non-binary characters, it's amazing

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss when people talked about genuine romhacks and Pokemon Clover threads without Radical Red moronation clogging up the thread and derailing it beyond comprehension.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do they get so mad at Clover threads that they always come and shit them up so nobody can talk about Clover? They are even starting to do the parroting thing where they copy posts and change a few keywords for their argument.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody's stopping anyone from posting about Clover though, only a couple guy even mentioned it so far..

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >radical reddit
    buy an ad

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pokemon clover
    buy an ad

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If/When this does eventually come out, I plan to do a NG+ with all my animu shiny clovermons I grinded. Although if they keep the EVs the early game will certainly be a sweep

    I love Unjoy and Senketula. Such beautifully created messes.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >try to talk about a good romhack
    >radical redditors show up and kill the thread
    many such cases

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Once again I'm sorry to OP, just wanted to make a cheeky joke, shit got outta hand

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >so many butthurt casuals filtered because they are shit at video games
    RR chads can't stop winning

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I beat Radical Reddit, it's not difficult it's a puzzle game. You figure out the optimal team for each gym, waste 10 hours of your life grinding up a whole new team for that gym, then repeat for all the gyms and the E4/champion. It is as far from an actually difficult game as you can get, because there are objectively best ways to beat each roadblock. It doesn't make you think, it doesn't test your skill at the game, it makes you waste time and figure out how to cheese the AI the easiest.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    radical red is literally the dark souls of pokemon
    can i suck your wiener if you're such a gamer god that you can win at the pokemon game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RR is the dark souls of pokemon hacks. I'm trans btw not sure if that matters.

      >le dark souls
      get a new material

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >get new material
        Don't tell that to Drayano.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          think you're funny snide c**t

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't fix what isn't broken. Aurora Crystal GOTY, you'll see

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i love how RR causes so much butthurt
    cope, seethe, and dilate

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ohhh CLOVERDEEEEVS?
    I'm respecting the fact that you removed this but asserting my authority as a shitposter by posting this anyway!
    Stop cheating!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s still illegal in the current build.
      But then again it’s an unevolved shitmon, who gives a shit.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seriously, I want to replay pokemon clover sometime though I am waiting for 2.0 so I'm sticking it out with fangames (insurgence rn, it's okay)

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just finished clover. Any other Pokemon romhack I should try out? Anything that isn’t a difficulty hack like RR

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      try this one if you still haven't, it's completed.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Drayano hacks
    You should drink drano if you think this shit is good.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PLEASE ADD THE IV/EV/NATURE SYSTEM FROM ELITE REDUX

    I don't care about anything else, I will literally play any hack if it removes IV rng / EV micromanagement/ Nature resetting.
    >ROWE has it
    kino game
    >Elite Redux has it
    best game

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RR is the dark souls of pokemon hacks. I'm trans btw not sure if that matters.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >FF now trips anti-cheat

    moronic as hell. There's no fricking reason for it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?
      No it doesn’t.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aware

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No it doesn't, moron.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scale x Fang moment
      Say sike

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Soon

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never

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