it was always normie slop, homosexual
AC has always been the big game marketed to normies at game shows ever since it was first revealed
everyone went wild about the little assassin dude hopping over the wooden beams really fast and since then it has been a normie AAA game series
I'll do my best to hide my contrarianism and say "2007". Putting technical issues and DRM aside, revelations was when it became certified slop. You could say that Black Flag was "alright", but by that point the story is such a convoluted mess that it makes your head spin.
The only thing I ever see people bring up is the parkour, which outside of the wall hop and shit with this being back to go through houses I never noticed any difference from the prior games.
>unity >good
Lmao
Its the game that made me quit asscreed and i was playing it when it got 'fixed'.
The whole game is nothing but bloat, held together by flimsy characters and story, that for how thin they are might as well not be there.
Its biggest achievement for me, is that it made me hate open world games in general
>nothing but bloat
There's frick all for bloat. Even if you do all of the side missions and collectible trash hunt the game is still smaller in volume than AC2.
Spend 5~10 minutes on the companion app missions and you already have enough money to buy the best/usable gear(the legendary 8 shot pistol and any 5star+ weapon) to just breeze through the entire main campaign.
How can one company frick up so badly? >Ruin every franchise they own >Not selling your new games on steam >No achievments
??? Its like they want us to not buy their shit.
Depends on what you valued.
2 made pretty much all the weapons play the same, removing the high-risk counter-only hidden blade funtimes.
Brotherhood continued jerking off Ezio, when he already had a perfect ending in 2
Revelations didn't bring much new to the table, and was kinda boring
3 had the insufferable protag, and the less dense settlements were way less fun than all the previous games.
Black Flag absolutely ruined the modern-day aspect. The gameplay was getting stale too, and now I don't care about the plot at all, so I dropped it here. Battle boats and shanties with the boys couldn't save it for me.
Later they went hard into loot and stats or something, which sounds like a fricking awful direction for this series.
You just play the game cause you don't fricking care about the passion these people put into the story and all you care about is just the action in game. Not all games need to be all action. The rest of us gamers play these games for the story, and gameplay. Assassins creed is a good franchise because they put passion in the games (most of them). Hey how about you make a video on the new AC: Origins. I'm sure your review isn't as fricking terrible as this one. This wasn't even a good rant it was just shit arguments that you can't back up cause your a pussy. And I will say it... Black person... What you gonna do about it
Origins started the RPG trend that ruined the series but I'd argue Odyssey did the most damage for making the game fantasy-based instead of alternate history. Origins was at least an AC game.
Only for the whole siding-with-the-Templars thing. The icy ship areas were also pretty cool I guess, and IIRC it had a better version of NY than III did.
Siding with the Templars was dogshit because the only way they knew how to make the Templars seem reasonable was to turn every Assassin into a Saturday morning cartoon villain.
Does Rogue let you commit piracy? I heard they took out piracy and capturing forts back when it released so I never bought it. That and it only released on PS3 and 360.
You can attack random people, but the bounty ships are now telepathic and know where you are going and even spawn ahead of you. Only real way to avoid them is zoning out or getting lucky with their spawn.
Black Flag but the cracks were already appearing in Brotherhood. It became total normieslop by Black Flag and Origins doubled down on it. Just look at the posts in this thread.
North Atlantic > Caribbean
Does Rogue let you commit piracy? I heard they took out piracy and capturing forts back when it released so I never bought it. That and it only released on PS3 and 360.
You're not a pirate anymore. You're a privateer and have British allies. Capturing forts still exist.
(1/2)
1 was a decent proof of concept, but no more. Too much asset reuse even for a series plagued with the problem. Too sbort. Boring protag. Acre was terrible, only Damascus was really good. On the plus side, gave you actual prep work to do for assassinations, and was about the historical order.
2 was the peak of the series. Good 3d platforming dungeons. Excellent cities, including the minor ones. Used the Italian Wars more than future instalments would use their settings, albeit still not enough. Modern setting OK.
Brotherhood had pretty good modern bits, and Rome was alright if not on the level of previous settings. Slightly weird time to set a Rome game (why not make AC: Rome?), but a ballsy move in its way. Buying up shops was pointless, Cesare was a boring villain. Borgia towers were fun.
Revelations was also set in a weird time period for Constantinople, and was very brown-filtered. No-one cares about tower-defence minigames. A bit too short.
3 was good in places, but lost a lot of the AC magic by being set in such boringly forgettable places. Ubisoft didn't have the courage to "both sides" the setting, though they would correct this in Rogue since they knew no-one was going to play it. Connor is the worst protagonist. Ship stuff pointless, at this stage.
4 is joint best after 2. Havana was good, Kingston and Nassau serviceable. The best pirate game since Sid Meier. Following/assassination missions were indeed a bit stale, but they were same as they've ever been in Asscreed. They just felt worse because the rest of the game was so damn good. Neither the British nor the Spanish are presented as villains, they just stop us from making more pirate money so they have to go.
Unity was 2 in Paris. Best city in the series by FAR. Stupid plot but who cares. Best looking game in the series. A bit ruined by always online bullshit which is now switched off but still festers in the game.
(2/2)
Syndicate was a huge disappointment. London not reproduced with as much authenticity as every preceding asscreed city. Roads made America-wide for benefit of carriage driving, since ubi don't trust their players to brake for corners. Parkour impossible because of wide roads. Story truly moronic, with flourishes like "Indians made Britain great" and "Karl Marx was a liberal-moderate aktually". They also made Disraeli into a dribbling moron dominated by his wife, which I can't forgive.
Origins was the best of the Witcher-clones. Better graphics, better writing and a better protagonist than its sequels. Again, slightly weird time period for Egypt, but at least that let them do all the Caesar/Cleo/Anthony content.
Odyssey is aggressively committed to wasting your time. The game is tightly auto-levelled, you can never be much better than your enemies and you always have to be looting new gear to be competitive. Stealth is not as viable as previously. Asset-reuse has reached epidemic proportions, all of Hellas looks the same. Athens are some other towns are painstakingly accurately laid out, but others pure speculation. Stoopid giant statues everywhere. Conflict between Athens and Sparta is excessively both-sidesed, to the point where you become a hero of both and slaughter soldiers of any stripe. Ripped off Shadow of Mordor's nemesis system in the gayest possible way. The final big-bad reveal was underwhelming, and doesn't even make sense.
Valhalla is the worst game in the series. Don't know what it is about Ubisoft and Britain, but again they stepped completely away from accuracy, Layout of London totally wrong based on archaeology. "Viking" aesthetics are pure HBO / heavy metal. Slaughtering monks is good, actually. Saxons won't accept us bringing diversity, the shitlords. Alfred the Great portrayed as a scheming pussy. Still awful levelling. Whole game looks grey and dull. Do not play this out of curiosity.
It went wrong at 3. They followed up someone as great as ezio with fricking CONNOR. They salvaged themselves with 4 being a fun game but it was a fun pirate game. Not a fun assassins creed game. Anything after that is just garbage.
Even if you like AC2, you have to recognise that the series made a mistake when it pivoted to an action adventure formula but kept calling itself "assassin's" creed.
All I've wanted from Ubisoft since Black Flag released was a game dedicated solely to the naval mechanics. Not necessarily even expanding upon them. I just want to do half the shit you can do in Sid Meier's Pirates with better game mechanics and maybe some branching narrative paths based on the country you side with. It would be cool to single handedly dominate the Caribbean for The Netherlands or completely push out the colonial powers in solidarity with the natives or to build a huge network of pirate republics.
I hate that Skull and Bones has been a giant waste of time and resources that they're going to take the wrong lessons from.
3
It was supposed to be the conclusion of a story arc, instead they just killed off the protagonist and everything was rendered pointless
Also WHERE IS CHARLES LEE?!
>Have incredible historically based AAA game series >For whatever reason, have everything take place in the DNA memories of some loser
I'm amazed they kept that part of the story up for so long, I would've had it completely gutted by AC4 (which you can sorta tell they tried to do I mean the whole game plays out like a big FU to Ubisoft)
>I'm amazed they kept that part of the story up for so long, I would've had it completely gutted by AC4 (which you can sorta tell they tried to do I mean the whole game plays out like a big FU to Ubisoft)
this is unironically why AC died
>Where did it go wrong?
story wise halfway into brotherhood when lead writer departed
gameplay wise 3 when they turned all parkour into rt does everything
4 is fun because its barely an ass creed game but the ac parts that are still in it are just slogs of eavesdrop and tailing shit that drag the pirate story down, rogue could have been better but maps are too small for sailing
origins and odyssey were okay but because like 4 they are barely ac games or like odyssey wasn't an ac game at all until they shoehorned it with first blade garbage dlc but if you skip that its okay
Even cattle gets bored of the same slop every year. It never recovered from releasing unity and rogue the same year, then the shitty movie flopping, then ubishit truly becoming a zombie corporation and making the games bloated grind fests made it even worse
how the frick people are feeling nostalgic for old ac games? >combat was just counter spam >parkour got stale 2 games in
brotherhood filtered me because it was more of the same shit, odyssey and valhalla was legit the first time since 2 i had fun playing this garbage >inb4 muh story
lol, lmao
If the RPG ones werent so bloated (origins is almost there) they actually are fun. Ubisoft should stop the copy paste slop and rather create shorter games, but with more quality and actually fun missions
>combat was just counter spam
if you're a fricking moron that liked standing around because of how passive as frick the AI can be. AC1 and 2 did the bare minimum to make you an active participant through guard breaks, throws, power attacks.
AC Brotherhood then made the counter kill an insta nuke button which was a fricking cancer that aggravated with AC3.
Very subjective. I recently got to replay the entire series, and it varies heavily from title to title.
>AC 1 has a decent start, but it's almost just a tech demo, very short and underdeveloped with features not clicking most of the time >AC 2 is an overall improvement, although some argue the story took a dive >Brotherhood introduced the rebuilding of said Brotherhood, which people generally adore, but also the story went more into what some describe as "cape shit" warmachine missions. >Revelations has mixed feedback, but for me it was fine and I liked the ending of Ezio trilogy >AC 3 introduced ship combat and more RPG elements, although again, the story and characters are a bit lackluster >Blackflag is considered one of the best, yet it is the first big diviation from a classic Assassin story, focusing more on pirate life >Rogue is short, but generally loved and you get to run a town again >Unity would be (in my opinion) the best game in the series, had the devs taken extra year or 2 to polish it and get the bugs out >Syndicate was where the RPG really took a turn and introduced Skills, although the characters are generally liked >Origins took a leap of faith with said skills and has mixed feedback, the story is pretty good though >Oddysey was a mixed bag for me. It was too long and the main story was not that good. But the side quests are some of the best jn the series. >Valhalla has been seen as the nail in the coffin for the RPG formula and appears to have made the series go into reverse, so to speak. Not a very good game in my opinion, too bloated. >Mirage is an undercooked game, literally. You can see why it was supposed to be an expansion. None of it really clicks.
So there's my feedback on the AC series, what do you think Anon?
>Syndicate was where the RPG really took a turn and introduced Skills, although the characters are generally liked
What? The twins are very boring and generic. Only time Evie made me laugh was when she said "Requiescat in Pace" when discarding her ball robe, and for Jacob it was that time where he escorted the old lady with a Corgi dog.
Almost everyone else was either unsuffurable, boring or underused. Why was Charles Darwin even in the story?
Historical figures have always made appearance in AC games. You could say the same about Marx as the other poster pointed our. Or Da Vinci, or Leonidas and so on.
Yeah but Leonardo actually served a purpose in the story and him and Ezio’s friendship was something that developed over the course of the story. With Syndicate it’s just having them show up with little to no bearing on what’s actually happening.
The overarching Assassins vs. Templars theme was actually still pretty big in Black Flag, but the gameplay, pirating and story are just so good, that you mostly forgot about it.
Edward Kenway was single handedly the best protagonist in any AC game ever. Rogue should've been about his son but I guess they wanted to put in the naval mechanics.
>AC3 >the story and characters are a bit lackluster
the guy discovering that his "ally" was in fact the one who burnt down his village all those years ago and shrugging it off is more than "lacklustre" story writing
man AC has such a nice logo, I can't think of many others that get to frick around with it as much as some of these and still be instantly recognizable
is the last one wiccan, is there gonna be witches, i'd actually be kind of interested in that
as a series AC lost it's identity pretty early
i think the only "real" ACs story wise are AC1, AC2(directed by Désilets) and to a lesser extent brotherhood(partial Désilets involvement)
a lot of people like AC4 and for good reasons, i'm one of them, but whether you like it or not you have to admit that it was the game that completely killed the identity of the franchise, it was the biggest departure both gameplay wise and story wise. you spend more than half of the game on your ship, the urban centers are tiny, and therefore the usual gameplay of urban stealth and parkour that defined most of the previous games are new just a small portion of the game. the modern world is basically almost completely gone, what little remains of it is basically unimportant filler radically different from the desmond sections of the previous games both in gameplay/presentation and importance. the success of this game ironically cemented these changes that will eventually lead to odyssey/valhalla
as i hinted before, ac revelations and 3 were already blind story wise, they didn't follow the Désilets project that ac1, 2 and to a lesser extent brotherhood followed, the AC franchise was already dead, but at least they still followed a similar formula
i think ultimately it's ubisoft's fault, their cowardice is to blame, they should have simply let the franchise die and stop using the AC title, but they didn't want to risk losing some money over it
they should have just made ac4 a pirate game unrelated to AC(that's actually what it was supposed to be initially), same with any of the following games, valhalla/odyssey should have been a viking/greece game unrelated to AC...
this is an unpopular opinion but i also think that AC gamers hold a little bit of the blame too, some of the aspects that defined AC were not very liked by AC fans themselves, like the modern world sections with desmond, but you have to accept that this was one of the things that defined the identity of AC
In Italy you had actual historical figures of meaning: Medici, Borgias, even da Vinci. Pirates on the other hand were just useless Black folk of the sea
Origins is literally only second to Black Flag and you're a fricking moron or contrarian for the sake of it if you disagree. Origins did an amazing job widening the scope, it was only overdone with Odyssey and Valhalla. Bayek is also one of the best protags in the entire franchise with some of the most human and believable motivations in the entire franchise. The weakest part of the narrative was the very end with the formation of the Hidden Ones but the rest of it fricked.
Bayek was great IMO. So friendly to kids. Very compassionate, and he does have personality, like when he refused to kneel for Cleopatra, or took Apollodorus's entire bottle instead of taking the cup that was offered yo him.
>I'm amazed they kept that part of the story up for so long, I would've had it completely gutted by AC4 (which you can sorta tell they tried to do I mean the whole game plays out like a big FU to Ubisoft)
this is unironically why AC died
if you want to know why AC turned into random slop that follows the most recent trends and has nothing to do with AC you have to look no further than your mirror
you want an rpg(odyssey) pirate game(black flag) with no modern day overarching story, you want a completely different game
nothing wrong with that, and it even seems to be the normie opinion of the average ACgay, but it's the exact reason why the franchise is dead in the water
He’s just the reverse Ezio that spends the game hunting his sons killers and dealing with his wife’s bullshit. He has little to no personality outside of that, it’s either some shit about Khemu or staying out of the affairs of the crown.
It came 2 years later, ofcourse it looked better (but now w3 looks better because of the update to graphics) and both have janky combat that tries to mimic dark souls, but AC has more weapon variety and skyrim stealth archery
3. Dogshit resolution to Desmond's story, ancient civilizations over-over-arching plot going bananas (I don't remember then specifics but I didn't like it, that I remember for sure).
4 was fun, I really liked the ship gameplay but it felt like a filler. And digital god or some shit.
I don't know about you guys, but the novels are what saved AC for me. If you're sick of the games, listen to the audiobooks up to and including forsaken. Unity never went to audiobook but book is good. Underworld was shite just like the game.
Forsaken probably my favourite of the lot as it follow Haytham and limits exposure to the insufferable Connor.
Contrary to most anons itt, i dont think the problem is story related. The problem is ubisoft open world design of "make a huge map and fill it with the same 5 sidequests copy pasted 100 times". It might have worked in 2009 for AC 2 but it gets stale very fast.
Same reason i also dont give a shit about Far Cry anymore.
the story after unity started sucking real hard. it's like they couldn't follow the standard 'must obtain apple', so they made it all convoluted and about other gay shit. valhalla was unplayable for me, and mirage sucks even more ass. I want to like it, but i have no idea what the frick is going on.
after ac2. 1 had the prince of persia vibe and 2 had the conspiracy feel etc. when they turned ezios story into a 4 part series it got old quick. haytham was good in 3 but i lost all interest after 3. 4 was essentially a pirate game with ac slapped on
Dunno, only played the first two, some mobile game where you absorbed the soul of people you killed and I watched some people play Black Flag and it seemed fun.
Anyone looking to "get into the series" only even consider playing 2, 4 and Origins. That gives you peak Asscreed, peak naval, and peak RPGlite, respectively
I assume you never played any of them. It's the opposite actually. Syndicate is twice more fun because they added Batman grapple hook, two protagonists and ww1 segment with Winston Churchill. Setting in general was much more explored in Syndicate that it was in Unity. Unity was more about Arno love story and it's pretty boring.
"there was no variety in the b***hwork you do to learn where the target will be, its surroundings, opportunities etc."
AC2: "Okay, we will just fill the main campaign with a whole lot of meandering. Only occasionally remembering that you're here to assassinate and tie missions together so they are relevant to it."
"The politics of Assassins and Templars was told in the most unengaging way"
AC2: "Okay, we will just don't bother exploring that so the main plot is Olio Spaghetti's revenge against the pope"
"The game's too easy"
AC2: "Okay, we will make it even easier"
"The world is small and was made for assassinating and nothing else"
AC2: "Okay, we will bukkake it with fricking chests everywhere"
"I want RPG stats and gear"
AC2: "Okay, here is a linear tier of gears you can buy as an illusion of choice when AC1 just automatically did that for you."
It was all over by brotherhood. Everything, including that, and beyond has been normieslop.
This. AC2 is the only good game. Brotherhood and AC4 are just fun slop. Ac1 is a tech demo. Everything else is trash
fpbp
One of the first instances where i was weirded out by a one year gap between sequels, didn't feel right even at the time
it was always normie slop, homosexual
AC has always been the big game marketed to normies at game shows ever since it was first revealed
everyone went wild about the little assassin dude hopping over the wooden beams really fast and since then it has been a normie AAA game series
I'll do my best to hide my contrarianism and say "2007". Putting technical issues and DRM aside, revelations was when it became certified slop. You could say that Black Flag was "alright", but by that point the story is such a convoluted mess that it makes your head spin.
Actually revelations online was pretty fun still also based
Origins ruined the franchise.
How do we stop ubisoft bros?
Black Flag was the last truly good Ass Creed game. The series has been on a major decline since then. Valhalla was particularly awful.
Unity was good, it is pretty much AC2 but in Paris.
came out so broken they gave the dlc for free
>Unity was good
Literally the one Ass Creed I skipped, because it had performance problems back in the day. I will have to check it out.
They fixed the performance issues, took a while but they did fix it.
If you enjoyed AC2 you should enjoj Unity. It is actually about Assassins and Templars, unlike the more recent games.
it's a lot about chasing ginger puss tbh (in a slightly incestuous way)
which is not bad
>gameplay is glitchy ass
>story is copy pasted from AC2, but forgettable
>worst case of ubisoft markers
>F*ench
Who actually enjoyed that trash?
The only thing I ever see people bring up is the parkour, which outside of the wall hop and shit with this being back to go through houses I never noticed any difference from the prior games.
For ac fans that is alot I guess
>unity
>good
Lmao
Its the game that made me quit asscreed and i was playing it when it got 'fixed'.
The whole game is nothing but bloat, held together by flimsy characters and story, that for how thin they are might as well not be there.
Its biggest achievement for me, is that it made me hate open world games in general
>nothing but bloat
There's frick all for bloat. Even if you do all of the side missions and collectible trash hunt the game is still smaller in volume than AC2.
Spend 5~10 minutes on the companion app missions and you already have enough money to buy the best/usable gear(the legendary 8 shot pistol and any 5star+ weapon) to just breeze through the entire main campaign.
Unity was unironically a game ahead of it's time
You're ahead of your time
How can one company frick up so badly?
>Ruin every franchise they own
>Not selling your new games on steam
>No achievments
??? Its like they want us to not buy their shit.
>No achievements
Who the frick actually cares about that shit? I bet you collect funko pop
haven't played any past 3, what did I miss out on?
4 can be frustrating with the eavesdropping missions but it's boat ludo
Nothing
Depends on what you valued.
2 made pretty much all the weapons play the same, removing the high-risk counter-only hidden blade funtimes.
Brotherhood continued jerking off Ezio, when he already had a perfect ending in 2
Revelations didn't bring much new to the table, and was kinda boring
3 had the insufferable protag, and the less dense settlements were way less fun than all the previous games.
Black Flag absolutely ruined the modern-day aspect. The gameplay was getting stale too, and now I don't care about the plot at all, so I dropped it here. Battle boats and shanties with the boys couldn't save it for me.
Later they went hard into loot and stats or something, which sounds like a fricking awful direction for this series.
the first one
odyssey is the best ac
It's not even about Assassins or Templars. It's an action game, not even a rpg.
Every after Black flag is mediocre or crap
I miss the multiplayer
You just play the game cause you don't fricking care about the passion these people put into the story and all you care about is just the action in game. Not all games need to be all action. The rest of us gamers play these games for the story, and gameplay. Assassins creed is a good franchise because they put passion in the games (most of them). Hey how about you make a video on the new AC: Origins. I'm sure your review isn't as fricking terrible as this one. This wasn't even a good rant it was just shit arguments that you can't back up cause your a pussy. And I will say it... Black person... What you gonna do about it
Origins started the RPG trend that ruined the series but I'd argue Odyssey did the most damage for making the game fantasy-based instead of alternate history. Origins was at least an AC game.
This is the episode where we pretend Black Flag and Rogue were good again right
Black Flag was good but does anyone even pretend to like Rogue?
Only for the whole siding-with-the-Templars thing. The icy ship areas were also pretty cool I guess, and IIRC it had a better version of NY than III did.
Siding with the Templars was dogshit because the only way they knew how to make the Templars seem reasonable was to turn every Assassin into a Saturday morning cartoon villain.
Does Rogue let you commit piracy? I heard they took out piracy and capturing forts back when it released so I never bought it. That and it only released on PS3 and 360.
You can attack random people, but the bounty ships are now telepathic and know where you are going and even spawn ahead of you. Only real way to avoid them is zoning out or getting lucky with their spawn.
rogue came out on pc like 3 months after consoles. you can get it for like 5 bucks these days or just pirate it
Black Flag but the cracks were already appearing in Brotherhood. It became total normieslop by Black Flag and Origins doubled down on it. Just look at the posts in this thread.
North Atlantic > Caribbean
You're not a pirate anymore. You're a privateer and have British allies. Capturing forts still exist.
(1/2)
1 was a decent proof of concept, but no more. Too much asset reuse even for a series plagued with the problem. Too sbort. Boring protag. Acre was terrible, only Damascus was really good. On the plus side, gave you actual prep work to do for assassinations, and was about the historical order.
2 was the peak of the series. Good 3d platforming dungeons. Excellent cities, including the minor ones. Used the Italian Wars more than future instalments would use their settings, albeit still not enough. Modern setting OK.
Brotherhood had pretty good modern bits, and Rome was alright if not on the level of previous settings. Slightly weird time to set a Rome game (why not make AC: Rome?), but a ballsy move in its way. Buying up shops was pointless, Cesare was a boring villain. Borgia towers were fun.
Revelations was also set in a weird time period for Constantinople, and was very brown-filtered. No-one cares about tower-defence minigames. A bit too short.
3 was good in places, but lost a lot of the AC magic by being set in such boringly forgettable places. Ubisoft didn't have the courage to "both sides" the setting, though they would correct this in Rogue since they knew no-one was going to play it. Connor is the worst protagonist. Ship stuff pointless, at this stage.
4 is joint best after 2. Havana was good, Kingston and Nassau serviceable. The best pirate game since Sid Meier. Following/assassination missions were indeed a bit stale, but they were same as they've ever been in Asscreed. They just felt worse because the rest of the game was so damn good. Neither the British nor the Spanish are presented as villains, they just stop us from making more pirate money so they have to go.
Unity was 2 in Paris. Best city in the series by FAR. Stupid plot but who cares. Best looking game in the series. A bit ruined by always online bullshit which is now switched off but still festers in the game.
(2/2)
Syndicate was a huge disappointment. London not reproduced with as much authenticity as every preceding asscreed city. Roads made America-wide for benefit of carriage driving, since ubi don't trust their players to brake for corners. Parkour impossible because of wide roads. Story truly moronic, with flourishes like "Indians made Britain great" and "Karl Marx was a liberal-moderate aktually". They also made Disraeli into a dribbling moron dominated by his wife, which I can't forgive.
Origins was the best of the Witcher-clones. Better graphics, better writing and a better protagonist than its sequels. Again, slightly weird time period for Egypt, but at least that let them do all the Caesar/Cleo/Anthony content.
Odyssey is aggressively committed to wasting your time. The game is tightly auto-levelled, you can never be much better than your enemies and you always have to be looting new gear to be competitive. Stealth is not as viable as previously. Asset-reuse has reached epidemic proportions, all of Hellas looks the same. Athens are some other towns are painstakingly accurately laid out, but others pure speculation. Stoopid giant statues everywhere. Conflict between Athens and Sparta is excessively both-sidesed, to the point where you become a hero of both and slaughter soldiers of any stripe. Ripped off Shadow of Mordor's nemesis system in the gayest possible way. The final big-bad reveal was underwhelming, and doesn't even make sense.
Valhalla is the worst game in the series. Don't know what it is about Ubisoft and Britain, but again they stepped completely away from accuracy, Layout of London totally wrong based on archaeology. "Viking" aesthetics are pure HBO / heavy metal. Slaughtering monks is good, actually. Saxons won't accept us bringing diversity, the shitlords. Alfred the Great portrayed as a scheming pussy. Still awful levelling. Whole game looks grey and dull. Do not play this out of curiosity.
It went wrong at 3. They followed up someone as great as ezio with fricking CONNOR. They salvaged themselves with 4 being a fun game but it was a fun pirate game. Not a fun assassins creed game. Anything after that is just garbage.
Anything after Brotherhood and Revelation is just not worth playing except maybe Black Flag.
Brotherhood and revelation were boring slop, 3 killed any interest in the story and black flag was incidentally good for different reasons
Revelations was the beginning of the end, 3 was the final nail in the coffin.
Title Screen rating :-
Syndicate > ACIII >= ACIVBF > AC Liberations > Unity > AC1 >= ACII >= ACBro >> Mirage > Origins = Odyssey = Valhalla
>Steampunk homosexual
YIKES
Even if you like AC2, you have to recognise that the series made a mistake when it pivoted to an action adventure formula but kept calling itself "assassin's" creed.
Black Flag was the only one I really liked
It was never good
All I've wanted from Ubisoft since Black Flag released was a game dedicated solely to the naval mechanics. Not necessarily even expanding upon them. I just want to do half the shit you can do in Sid Meier's Pirates with better game mechanics and maybe some branching narrative paths based on the country you side with. It would be cool to single handedly dominate the Caribbean for The Netherlands or completely push out the colonial powers in solidarity with the natives or to build a huge network of pirate republics.
I hate that Skull and Bones has been a giant waste of time and resources that they're going to take the wrong lessons from.
You can add Sea of Thieves to the list of "dogshit games that butchered the concept and put investors off it", as well.
Only played 2,brotherhood, 3 and BF. Is Unity worth it?
Yes, but it's the last game that is.
Unity. They dropped the ball with the new sluggish combat turning it into slugfest. Unity with Black Flag's combat system would've been good game.
Unity's combat was unironically peak AC
No it wasn't, it was a sluggish hack and slasher with artificial difficulty based on npc and player level. TTK was too long unless you are maxed out.
3
It was supposed to be the conclusion of a story arc, instead they just killed off the protagonist and everything was rendered pointless
Also WHERE IS CHARLES LEE?!
Too many fricking games
for me with assassins creed 3, black flag was the last ac i played. ubisoft pumped with each year a new part out and this killed the series for me.
>Have incredible historically based AAA game series
>For whatever reason, have everything take place in the DNA memories of some loser
I'm amazed they kept that part of the story up for so long, I would've had it completely gutted by AC4 (which you can sorta tell they tried to do I mean the whole game plays out like a big FU to Ubisoft)
AC 4 is unironically fricking great.
I love AC4, even outside of AC games it's one of my favorite games ever made. I'm a massive bawd for pirate games.
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>I'm amazed they kept that part of the story up for so long, I would've had it completely gutted by AC4 (which you can sorta tell they tried to do I mean the whole game plays out like a big FU to Ubisoft)
this is unironically why AC died
>Where did it go wrong?
story wise halfway into brotherhood when lead writer departed
gameplay wise 3 when they turned all parkour into rt does everything
4 is fun because its barely an ass creed game but the ac parts that are still in it are just slogs of eavesdrop and tailing shit that drag the pirate story down, rogue could have been better but maps are too small for sailing
origins and odyssey were okay but because like 4 they are barely ac games or like odyssey wasn't an ac game at all until they shoehorned it with first blade garbage dlc but if you skip that its okay
Even cattle gets bored of the same slop every year. It never recovered from releasing unity and rogue the same year, then the shitty movie flopping, then ubishit truly becoming a zombie corporation and making the games bloated grind fests made it even worse
how the frick people are feeling nostalgic for old ac games?
>combat was just counter spam
>parkour got stale 2 games in
brotherhood filtered me because it was more of the same shit, odyssey and valhalla was legit the first time since 2 i had fun playing this garbage
>inb4 muh story
lol, lmao
If the RPG ones werent so bloated (origins is almost there) they actually are fun. Ubisoft should stop the copy paste slop and rather create shorter games, but with more quality and actually fun missions
was just counter spam
And it was the perfect assassin power fantasy. If you can't understand that, you're gay.
>combat was just counter spam
if you're a fricking moron that liked standing around because of how passive as frick the AI can be. AC1 and 2 did the bare minimum to make you an active participant through guard breaks, throws, power attacks.
AC Brotherhood then made the counter kill an insta nuke button which was a fricking cancer that aggravated with AC3.
>playing ASS creed after 3
uhh desmond died and the world ended, what are you even doing.
>didn't play Black Flag
You missed out on so much
might get the PS3 version
>still playing on ps3
>BUYING no less
homie ps3 can be easily cracked with a HEN loader
PS3 is soul and runs better than 360 with an overclocked GPU which you can do with evilnat.
Very subjective. I recently got to replay the entire series, and it varies heavily from title to title.
>AC 1 has a decent start, but it's almost just a tech demo, very short and underdeveloped with features not clicking most of the time
>AC 2 is an overall improvement, although some argue the story took a dive
>Brotherhood introduced the rebuilding of said Brotherhood, which people generally adore, but also the story went more into what some describe as "cape shit" warmachine missions.
>Revelations has mixed feedback, but for me it was fine and I liked the ending of Ezio trilogy
>AC 3 introduced ship combat and more RPG elements, although again, the story and characters are a bit lackluster
>Blackflag is considered one of the best, yet it is the first big diviation from a classic Assassin story, focusing more on pirate life
>Rogue is short, but generally loved and you get to run a town again
>Unity would be (in my opinion) the best game in the series, had the devs taken extra year or 2 to polish it and get the bugs out
>Syndicate was where the RPG really took a turn and introduced Skills, although the characters are generally liked
>Origins took a leap of faith with said skills and has mixed feedback, the story is pretty good though
>Oddysey was a mixed bag for me. It was too long and the main story was not that good. But the side quests are some of the best jn the series.
>Valhalla has been seen as the nail in the coffin for the RPG formula and appears to have made the series go into reverse, so to speak. Not a very good game in my opinion, too bloated.
>Mirage is an undercooked game, literally. You can see why it was supposed to be an expansion. None of it really clicks.
So there's my feedback on the AC series, what do you think Anon?
>Syndicate was where the RPG really took a turn and introduced Skills, although the characters are generally liked
What? The twins are very boring and generic. Only time Evie made me laugh was when she said "Requiescat in Pace" when discarding her ball robe, and for Jacob it was that time where he escorted the old lady with a Corgi dog.
Almost everyone else was either unsuffurable, boring or underused. Why was Charles Darwin even in the story?
The same reason why Marx was there.
Whats next tea time with Misc Pot?
Historical figures have always made appearance in AC games. You could say the same about Marx as the other poster pointed our. Or Da Vinci, or Leonidas and so on.
Yeah but Leonardo actually served a purpose in the story and him and Ezio’s friendship was something that developed over the course of the story. With Syndicate it’s just having them show up with little to no bearing on what’s actually happening.
I think you're a israelite for considering Unity a good game.
I said it would be a good game, it is not at the moment nor will it ever be, since Ubisoft has abandoned it
>what do you think Anon
Based Ass Creed enjoyer.
The overarching Assassins vs. Templars theme was actually still pretty big in Black Flag, but the gameplay, pirating and story are just so good, that you mostly forgot about it.
Edward Kenway was single handedly the best protagonist in any AC game ever. Rogue should've been about his son but I guess they wanted to put in the naval mechanics.
You play as his son in AC 3 and even his grandson
>AC3
>the story and characters are a bit lackluster
the guy discovering that his "ally" was in fact the one who burnt down his village all those years ago and shrugging it off is more than "lacklustre" story writing
'twas kino for sure
Every game that Corey May wasn't involved in writing was shit
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Would AC have fewer games like BamHam it would be remembered more fondly
man AC has such a nice logo, I can't think of many others that get to frick around with it as much as some of these and still be instantly recognizable
is the last one wiccan, is there gonna be witches, i'd actually be kind of interested in that
ubislop and its consequences were disastrous for open world games
as a series AC lost it's identity pretty early
i think the only "real" ACs story wise are AC1, AC2(directed by Désilets) and to a lesser extent brotherhood(partial Désilets involvement)
a lot of people like AC4 and for good reasons, i'm one of them, but whether you like it or not you have to admit that it was the game that completely killed the identity of the franchise, it was the biggest departure both gameplay wise and story wise. you spend more than half of the game on your ship, the urban centers are tiny, and therefore the usual gameplay of urban stealth and parkour that defined most of the previous games are new just a small portion of the game. the modern world is basically almost completely gone, what little remains of it is basically unimportant filler radically different from the desmond sections of the previous games both in gameplay/presentation and importance. the success of this game ironically cemented these changes that will eventually lead to odyssey/valhalla
as i hinted before, ac revelations and 3 were already blind story wise, they didn't follow the Désilets project that ac1, 2 and to a lesser extent brotherhood followed, the AC franchise was already dead, but at least they still followed a similar formula
i think ultimately it's ubisoft's fault, their cowardice is to blame, they should have simply let the franchise die and stop using the AC title, but they didn't want to risk losing some money over it
they should have just made ac4 a pirate game unrelated to AC(that's actually what it was supposed to be initially), same with any of the following games, valhalla/odyssey should have been a viking/greece game unrelated to AC...
this is an unpopular opinion but i also think that AC gamers hold a little bit of the blame too, some of the aspects that defined AC were not very liked by AC fans themselves, like the modern world sections with desmond, but you have to accept that this was one of the things that defined the identity of AC
I've been playing through Rogue for the first time and I'm enjoying it more than Black Flag, from a gameplay perspective
A shame the setting isn't as interesting (although the 18th century is still kino) and Shay is a lame protagonist with an atrocious VA
>old thing good
>new thing bad
every thread. any game series
If you like modern ASS Creed you are a bot
how about forming an opinion instead of spewing buzzwords
>Black Flag bad
Lol, lmao even.
It was. Italian renaissance cities are infinitely more interesting that shantytowns of the Caribbean
And pirates are infinitely more interesting than italian dandies
In Italy you had actual historical figures of meaning: Medici, Borgias, even da Vinci. Pirates on the other hand were just useless Black folk of the sea
>I clapped when I saw da Vinci
Yo-ho-hoing at (You)
Plundering with your bros > conversations with mamma mia pizzaronis
revelations is probably the tipping point
Origins is literally only second to Black Flag and you're a fricking moron or contrarian for the sake of it if you disagree. Origins did an amazing job widening the scope, it was only overdone with Odyssey and Valhalla. Bayek is also one of the best protags in the entire franchise with some of the most human and believable motivations in the entire franchise. The weakest part of the narrative was the very end with the formation of the Hidden Ones but the rest of it fricked.
Bayek was great IMO. So friendly to kids. Very compassionate, and he does have personality, like when he refused to kneel for Cleopatra, or took Apollodorus's entire bottle instead of taking the cup that was offered yo him.
>Black Flag
not an AC game
>Origins
not an AC game
as i said here
if you want to know why AC turned into random slop that follows the most recent trends and has nothing to do with AC you have to look no further than your mirror
you want an rpg(odyssey) pirate game(black flag) with no modern day overarching story, you want a completely different game
nothing wrong with that, and it even seems to be the normie opinion of the average ACgay, but it's the exact reason why the franchise is dead in the water
*you want an rpg(ORIGINS)
whatever they're the same shit
He’s just the reverse Ezio that spends the game hunting his sons killers and dealing with his wife’s bullshit. He has little to no personality outside of that, it’s either some shit about Khemu or staying out of the affairs of the crown.
The answer is ubishit
After Revelations.
>1 and 2 were next level
>revelations to get altairs story to a close
>origins and odyssey purely for the themes
everything else is ass
Origins is only good because its witcher 3 with parkour, but on a budget
I'd honestly say origins looked better and played better than witcher 3
Much worse writing, though, both in dialogue and thematic exploration. At the end of the day, that's what people remember.
It came 2 years later, ofcourse it looked better (but now w3 looks better because of the update to graphics) and both have janky combat that tries to mimic dark souls, but AC has more weapon variety and skyrim stealth archery
It looks like 3d google maps 200 meters away, how can you say it looked better?
Overstayed its welcome after 2.
The first Assassin's Creed is a barebones tech demo
Aged like milk
But which game had the best intro?
AC2. Introduced Ezios Family theme which is still the epitome of AC music, has a memorable quote and the scenery ain't bad.
2 and it's not even close
3. Dogshit resolution to Desmond's story, ancient civilizations over-over-arching plot going bananas (I don't remember then specifics but I didn't like it, that I remember for sure).
4 was fun, I really liked the ship gameplay but it felt like a filler. And digital god or some shit.
AC3
I don't know about you guys, but the novels are what saved AC for me. If you're sick of the games, listen to the audiobooks up to and including forsaken. Unity never went to audiobook but book is good. Underworld was shite just like the game.
Forsaken probably my favourite of the lot as it follow Haytham and limits exposure to the insufferable Connor.
Contrary to most anons itt, i dont think the problem is story related. The problem is ubisoft open world design of "make a huge map and fill it with the same 5 sidequests copy pasted 100 times". It might have worked in 2009 for AC 2 but it gets stale very fast.
Same reason i also dont give a shit about Far Cry anymore.
the story after unity started sucking real hard. it's like they couldn't follow the standard 'must obtain apple', so they made it all convoluted and about other gay shit. valhalla was unplayable for me, and mirage sucks even more ass. I want to like it, but i have no idea what the frick is going on.
Assassins creed 2. The first game is kino. Everything after is just copying the formula of the first game.
the moment Patrice got thrown out because he wasn't ok with changing 3 to make mindless sequels
the series has more bad games than good so around Brotherhood
Completely agree with you except that I'd give Revelations a cross.
After Brotherhood
after ac2. 1 had the prince of persia vibe and 2 had the conspiracy feel etc. when they turned ezios story into a 4 part series it got old quick. haytham was good in 3 but i lost all interest after 3. 4 was essentially a pirate game with ac slapped on
I actually finished them all except Mirage which is in progress. I'd say Unity was the worst excluding AC1.
Dunno, only played the first two, some mobile game where you absorbed the soul of people you killed and I watched some people play Black Flag and it seemed fun.
first one but then they started making good games
2 = 4 > Unity > Origins > Brotherhood > 1 > Revelations > Rogue > Syndicate > 3 > Odyssey > Valhalla
Anyone looking to "get into the series" only even consider playing 2, 4 and Origins. That gives you peak Asscreed, peak naval, and peak RPGlite, respectively
How do you have such shit fricking taste
>Unity
>Syndicate X
I assume you never played any of them. It's the opposite actually. Syndicate is twice more fun because they added Batman grapple hook, two protagonists and ww1 segment with Winston Churchill. Setting in general was much more explored in Syndicate that it was in Unity. Unity was more about Arno love story and it's pretty boring.
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AC2 because they listened to complaints of the first game from dipshits and did the most braindead solutions imaginable.
"Desmond sections were boring"
AC2: "Okay, we'll borderline completely remove it"
"there was no variety in the b***hwork you do to learn where the target will be, its surroundings, opportunities etc."
AC2: "Okay, we will just fill the main campaign with a whole lot of meandering. Only occasionally remembering that you're here to assassinate and tie missions together so they are relevant to it."
"The politics of Assassins and Templars was told in the most unengaging way"
AC2: "Okay, we will just don't bother exploring that so the main plot is Olio Spaghetti's revenge against the pope"
"The game's too easy"
AC2: "Okay, we will make it even easier"
"The world is small and was made for assassinating and nothing else"
AC2: "Okay, we will bukkake it with fricking chests everywhere"
"I want RPG stats and gear"
AC2: "Okay, here is a linear tier of gears you can buy as an illusion of choice when AC1 just automatically did that for you."
Why can’t normalgays just do their part and frick off? Are they just moronic and lazy?
i didnt even realised there were that many already, morons shitting them out like its call of duty
Ass Creed 1 was soulful but flawed
Ass Creed 2 was perfect
Brotherhood was good but the beginning of the end
Revelations onwards is trash
Frick, now i feel like replaying 2 and brotherhood. Maybe revelation too and godawful 3, gotta finish that modern day story
Assasins Creed 'Merica edition with the mopey, ugly protagonist.
It stopped being fun and sexy and became serious and woke.