Isn't that just typical 'make your own story' shit? As in the companion character stories become part of your own story rather than overtaking it
Tav (the player character) has something that makes them unique compared to the companions: being the descendant of a Bhaalspawn which will almost surely be a relevant to the plot point given the role The Dead Three in said plot.
It's the default name but you can change it of course.
I think short for Gustav which if I remember correctly is the name one of the developer's dog.
The main question is which will have better fashion
I prefer the armor and outfit designs in BG3 but it's kinda like comparing apples to oranges.
They come out a week apart. Even if you'll be playing 16-20 hours a day you won't finish it. Not unless you plan to play as a murderhobo and just slaughter your way through the entire game without doing any side content and skipping through all dialogue.
Yeah that's why I said I doubt I'll be able to finish it before SF comes out. My first playthrough of the EA clocked in at around 60 hours or so because I like exploring every nook and cranny. And that's not even the entirety of act 1 so yeah, probably not going to happen.
It's someone's else's character.
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/images/281
I'm just grabbing images from the nexus.
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And yet the city won't even top the one from the same franchise 20 years ago
They even admitted it was a late development decision to make it seamless
They said they initially decided to have the city split up in different sections (similar to the the one from BG1) and eventually someone proposed they make it seamless which is why they ended up dedicating a lot more time to the city itself than they initially predicted.
It was never stated that this was done late in development.
I played DOS2 day 1. It was plenty polieshed the whole way trough. People that cry about the game either played lone wolf or did not play the game at all.
That wasn't my experience.
Time will tell how the approach pans out for BG3.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Is it gay to make a character you want to frick? It's gotta be gay on some kind of level right?
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's what the waifu designer is for. Take it from the antilarian schizo
11 months ago
Anonymous
I was in that thread. Seeing the screencap makes me smile still.
>It's the default name but you can change it of course. >I think short for Gustav which if I remember correctly is the name one of the developer's dog.
That's pretty cute. I thought they might be doing a Shepard, and the character has a pre-established last name or something
BG3 is the best rpg ever made and will probably be game of the decade. Starfield is a buggy, janky, soullesss, procgen space sim. The choice is pretty obvious.
I'll probably finish a playthrough of BG3 before starting SF but I doubt I'll be able to play SF on release if I do that.
I'm fine with that, there's no rush.
Or I'll just bounce between them. I have a friend that I played through DOS1 and 2 with and we might be playing BG3 together and if that happens then I'll probably play Starfield when I'm not playing BG3 with him.
IDK on one hand I'd love to play BG3 with him but on the other having 2 player controlled characters in the party means less time you get to spend with the companions to see their character develop and being able to set your own pace is always nice. Maybe I'll play a solo campaign in parallel.
Larian are really going over and beyond with the city. People that have not played the early access might not be able to appreciate this screenshot but i've played it and my mind is blown.
But the City is not available in EA.
I'm excited about it myself but don't overhype yourself too much only to be disappointed it's not the game you imagined in your head, anon.
They come out a week apart. Even if you'll be playing 16-20 hours a day you won't finish it. Not unless you plan to play as a murderhobo and just slaughter your way through the entire game without doing any side content and skipping through all dialogue.
>Cyberpunk 2077
Played it on release and absolutely loved it.
Depends on how buggy BG3 is at launch.
Although if I skip it for starfield and that also comes out buggy, then at that moment BG3 will probably have been patched enough to play
It will have been just a week so don't expect anything major it terms of patches.
It's one of my concerns about BG3: looking at DOS1&2 the final acts were no very polished.
Starfield will be buggy out the ass. Have you ever played a Bethesda game before?
Allegedly they did more QA this time around to iron things out.
I'll probably finish a playthrough of BG3 before starting SF but I doubt I'll be able to play SF on release if I do that.
I'm fine with that, there's no rush.
Or I'll just bounce between them. I have a friend that I played through DOS1 and 2 with and we might be playing BG3 together and if that happens then I'll probably play Starfield when I'm not playing BG3 with him.
IDK on one hand I'd love to play BG3 with him but on the other having 2 player controlled characters in the party means less time you get to spend with the companions to see their character develop and being able to set your own pace is always nice. Maybe I'll play a solo campaign in parallel.
[...] But the City is not available in EA.
I'm excited about it myself but don't overhype yourself too much only to be disappointed it's not the game you imagined in your head, anon.
It releases at the end of august. I have around 200-ish hours in it and had a blast.
I say give it a pirate, try it out and if you like it buy the normal edition before it comes out since everyone that gets in the early access gets upgraded to the special edition or whatever it's called when the full game releases.
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Wasn't aware of them doing that. Nevermind then.
It's the default name but you can change it of course.
I think short for Gustav which if I remember correctly is the name one of the developer's dog.
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I prefer the armor and outfit designs in BG3 but it's kinda like comparing apples to oranges.
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Yeah that's why I said I doubt I'll be able to finish it before SF comes out. My first playthrough of the EA clocked in at around 60 hours or so because I like exploring every nook and cranny. And that's not even the entirety of act 1 so yeah, probably not going to happen.
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You can but not all of them. Only the ones that have a tadpole I think.
Right now that's Gale, Wyll, Astarion, Shadowheart and Lae'zel.
Maybe Karlach too but not sure.
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Larian already sold it to the niche audience that is super interested in BG3.
Now they'll want to go for the rest so there's definitely some overlap and I think Starfield has them beat in that category since it has a lot more broad appeal given that it's made by the dudes that made Skyrim.
I agree with some of your points but I think you're underestimating Starfield and its appeal especially after that Starfield presentation they had.
Everyone and their mom was talking about i after thatt, it goes beyond just spacesim fans (I wouldn't even consider Starfield to be one but that's beyond my point).
Bethesda and MS had a good opportunity to get people hyped for their game and they absolutely nailed it.
You cant make characters like this without mods. The base models for females are all hideous
>sims vs fallout/skyrim in space
i take skyrim in space. Left all the info i got look mediocre at best, Larian can't write good characters, story, can't make good locations, etc. The name Baldur's gate is there just to bait people, that game is divinity 3.
They made a seamless Baldur's Gate city, you fricking moron. That city will have 10x more content than the entirety of Starfield.
Stop listening to mentally ill shitposters like an NPC and form your own opinion.
>They made a seamless Baldur's Gate city
that's what they said loser, did you played the entire game? play some Larian games then start talking, stop defending Larian, only larian drones do that, oh wait, i talk with 2 of them, a lot lately.
>nice arguments gay >WHY DIDNT YOU HECKIN ARGUE MY WEAKASS POINTS
Calling the game 'Divinity 3' is so stale at this point. You could've gotten away with it in 2019 when it was like that. But its been 3 years. The two games are nothing alike
He is right. Starfield is procedually generated copy pasted planets. If this is what you consider content i'd say that you're moronic and should just play Minecraft/No Man's Sky.
Larian are really going over and beyond with the city. People that have not played the early access might not be able to appreciate this screenshot but i've played it and my mind is blown.
>combat, great exploration
You call exploring empty procedurally generated worlds great? BG3 has carefully handcrafted maps filled to brim with so much content you'll still be finding new secrets and content after hundreds of hours and dozens of playthroughs.
>what's the catch
You need to learn all the game mechanics in order to enjoy it fully. Brainlets will hate it. It's not an action game. It has tactical combat and complex interactions while exploring. If you're dumb you should play Starfield instead. I am not memeing. Dumb people will fail way too hard in BG3 and will be unhappy with the game.
>5e rules >tactical combat and complex interactions
LOL
11 months ago
Anonymous
He is right. BG3 combat is way more complex than BG2 combat.
11 months ago
Anonymous
first of all >whataboutism, stop that
second, let's say you are right and when we rate them on a scale from 1 to 10, BG2 is a 1 and BG3 is a 2, then yeah you are correct it is more "complex" but that doesn't make it complex as a whole
you should rather tell me why BG3 is complex and a good game instead of proving that you hate the baldurs gate series and just get off to wotc parading it's corpse around
It releases at the end of august. I have around 200-ish hours in it and had a blast.
I say give it a pirate, try it out and if you like it buy the normal edition before it comes out since everyone that gets in the early access gets upgraded to the special edition or whatever it's called when the full game releases.
I think maybe he might have meant the secret beta test that Larian did that you had to sign an NDA about
Depends on how buggy BG3 is at launch.
Although if I skip it for starfield and that also comes out buggy, then at that moment BG3 will probably have been patched enough to play
I doubt it will be that buggy this time. They had over a million people play through the EA for 3 years and Larian has expanded their team from 150 to 500 devs for BG3.
You are a fricking shill. There is nothing else that explains your post there.
The god damn game has been in EA for years, with almost no change what so ever. Paladin as a class, took over two fricking years. That is a complete joke.
I don't need to play some three year old sixty dollar EA trash that any reasonable person has pointed out a complete lack of content having been added.
You are a homosexual shill, and the worst part is, you're probably doing it for free.
How is it even possible to be this supid? I'm actually face-palming and cringing irl. Why is that every rabid Larian hater doesn't know anything about the games they hate ao much? What makes people like this?
>They had over a million people play through the EA for 3 years
The great majority played only act 1 tho. If I'm not mistaken it was the same with the Original Sin games which is why those games had a lot more polished first acts compared to the rest of the game.
You are a fricking shill. There is nothing else that explains your post there.
The god damn game has been in EA for years, with almost no change what so ever. Paladin as a class, took over two fricking years. That is a complete joke.
>with almost no change what so ever.
So you haven't played it I guess.
Have you ever play a Larian game? Cringe comedy dialogue and weak storytelling. They couldn’t have been a worse game studio to work on a Baldurs Gate game.
It was one of my concerns going into the EA but they dialed it down quite a bit compared to DOS.
The overall tone of the interactions and how things are presented is more serious.
I played DOS2 day 1. It was plenty polieshed the whole way trough. People that cry about the game either played lone wolf or did not play the game at all.
I don't need to play some three year old sixty dollar EA trash that any reasonable person has pointed out a complete lack of content having been added.
You are a homosexual shill, and the worst part is, you're probably doing it for free.
nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week, only people like me who play CRPG, normal gays don't play them, also a lot shilling for this game, i wonder how much larian is paying them, the launch is in 2 months
You're a moron. A lot of people already bought the game years ago and played the early access. We are not shills. We simply played act 1 of the game already.
>Cyberpunk 2077
Played it on release and absolutely loved it.
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It will have been just a week so don't expect anything major it terms of patches.
It's one of my concerns about BG3: looking at DOS1&2 the final acts were no very polished.
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Allegedly they did more QA this time around to iron things out.
>Allegedly they did more QA this time around to iron things out.
After Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 i've pretty much lost all respect i had for Bethesda and i am one of the people that actually loved Fallout 3.
>nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week
They should unironically release it a few weeks ahead of schedule, bugs be damned. Terrible timing to launch at the same time as a Bethesda juggernaut, there's a good amount of overlap between their playerbases. Releasing later sounds risky too, because people will be consumed by Starfield for a couple of months at least.
>nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week
They should unironically release it a few weeks ahead of schedule, bugs be damned. Terrible timing to launch at the same time as a Bethesda juggernaut, there's a good amount of overlap between their playerbases. Releasing later sounds risky too, because people will be consumed by Starfield for a couple of months at least.
>nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week
Am I the only one who doesn't see this? It's two very different RPG audiences imo
Bethesda slop aren't even rpgs. They're closer to action-adventure games like BOTW, Assassin's Creed, RDR, Cyberpunk 2077 and GTA than to rpgs. That's who their audience is - normalgays. RPG connoisseurs will be playing BG3.
>nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week
They should unironically release it a few weeks ahead of schedule, bugs be damned. Terrible timing to launch at the same time as a Bethesda juggernaut, there's a good amount of overlap between their playerbases. Releasing later sounds risky too, because people will be consumed by Starfield for a couple of months at least.
And this after Sven went on and on about releasing in a good window in that one Dos2 documentary.
They even announced the date after starfield's was fixed
DOS2 had the third biggest rpg launch on steam, after Skyrim and Fallout 4. That was just a niche, indie eurojank game with no marketing. Larian is much more popular and beloved today, and they're making a game for a very popular and iconic franchise. There is far bigger interest in BG3 than there was for DOS2, and EA numbers show that. DOS2 peaked at 3k players during EA, BG3 at 50k. DOS2 then launched with nearly 100k players. How much players will BG3 have at launch if it follows the same pattern as DOS1 and DOS2? 300k 500k? Even more than that? It's going to be one of the biggest steam launches for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if it even beats Starfield. It's cheaper, has lower spec requirements, has far more popular genre and has 4 player co-op. Starfield is a new IP, and Bethesda has lost a ton of reputation with the general audience over the past years. Who even likes space sims besides autists? This game will have zero appeal with the usual normalgay audience that Skyrim and Fallout appealed to. Basically, what I'm saying is to not write off BG3 just yet. Larian is still an indie company and don't have the resources to market their games like AAA slop to shove it into everyone's face all the time, but that doesn't mean they aren't popular.
Anon, you should be able to notice when you're crossing over from 'The evidence obviously points to this' to 'I really want all these specific things to happen in the exact ways I imagine because I like this game'.
BG3 is nowhere near as popular as Starfield. Every single metric possible confirms this.
I agree with some of your points but I think you're underestimating Starfield and its appeal especially after that Starfield presentation they had.
Everyone and their mom was talking about i after thatt, it goes beyond just spacesim fans (I wouldn't even consider Starfield to be one but that's beyond my point).
Bethesda and MS had a good opportunity to get people hyped for their game and they absolutely nailed it.
They're not that far apart as you think even after Starfield's recent big marketing push, pic related. Anyway, you missed the point I was making. AAA slop relies on big budget marketing campaigns to generate buzz and sell their games, Larian games rely entirely on positive word of mouth, good reviews and free advertising from streamers/youtubers. The non-linear gameplay and co-op is perfect for content makers because it's fun to play and fun to watch. BG3's "marketing" will start when reviewers and content makers will get their hands on the game. That's when most people outside of the larian/bg/dnd/crpg bubble will learn about it and notice it for the first time.
Yes, i base what games i play on GoogleTrends. See a lot of morons will be playing final Fantasy so so should I. Jesus i had no idea that Ganker was filled with NPCs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, the claim was that BG3 is nowhere near as popular Starfield, I then made an argument that they're not so far apart and provided data to support it. My claim isn't based on gut feeling or wishful thinking like the other anon was saying.
Anon, the claim was that BG3 is nowhere near as popular Starfield, I then made an argument that they're not so far apart and provided data to support it. My claim isn't based on gut feeling or wishful thinking like the other anon was saying.
>All trending at rock bottom pre-release. >All exploded at release. >The one you're making a point against hasn't released yet.
I wonder why you would do this
I agree with some of your points but I think you're underestimating Starfield and its appeal especially after that Starfield presentation they had.
Everyone and their mom was talking about i after thatt, it goes beyond just spacesim fans (I wouldn't even consider Starfield to be one but that's beyond my point).
Bethesda and MS had a good opportunity to get people hyped for their game and they absolutely nailed it.
Jesus Christ kiddo, you will choke on Larian wiener, take it easy. Is this redddit postor bot post? >DOS2 had the third biggest rpg launch on steam
hahaha, this is bait, no point to argue further, but why not, gay go read some steam stats, DOS2 is not even in top 30 most buyed or biggest launched game on steam in the RPG genre.
CRPG genre is not that big. Starfield will sell 5-10 million in the first week, BG3 will be lucky if they sell 5 million in 3-4 years. They have money for marketing, a lot of shilling of this game lately
>They have money for marketing, a lot of shilling of this game lately
Obviously not. Any and all 'shilling' mostly comes from autismo superfans like me. Larian's biggest misstep is the absolutely abysmal marketing that doesn't appeal to anyone who isn't already interested. It's because of this alone that BG3 will not sell as well as it could.
I'm a new player, I was hooked by the super cool cgi cthulu movie they made a few years ago and the city reveal recently looked cool. Apart from that nothing makes me want to play the game. Still planning on buying it though because of all the shilling on Ganker.
>Apart from that nothing makes me want to play the game
Yeah, the city thing was the best thing they've done marketing wise, because it actually showed new gameplay things we haven't seen before. Seeing Minsc and the villains is nice for people in the know like me, but as marketing they are absolutely not the way to go. They should be selling this as a 5e game for normalgays.
>Starfield will sell 5-10 million in the first week
On what system? It's not on Switch, it's on on PS4 or PS5, it's not on Xbox One. It's only on PC and Xbox Series X/S. It's also free on game pass day 1. Who the frick is even going to buy it except steam cuck mustards with their $2000 rigs? Cyberpunk, ER and Hogwarts Legacy sold under 10m on PC, and they're 10x more popular than Starfield. They're so far apart in popularity and hype that Starfield is a literal who in comparison, and you think it will sell anywhere in the same ballpark as those giants? Bethesda drones are completely out of touch and are living in the past. The company has lost most of its good will with the general audience after repeated blunders in the past ten years.
>All trending at rock bottom pre-release. >All exploded at release. >The one you're making a point against hasn't released yet.
I wonder why you would do this
Have you ever play a Larian game? Cringe comedy dialogue and weak storytelling. They couldn’t have been a worse game studio to work on a Baldurs Gate game.
Not interested in pozzed fantasy garbage wearing my beloved franchise's name. Do be interested in Todd's newest kino that may or may not be his magnum opus and the best game ever made.
BG3 is the best game.
It follows Larian's "play as companion" formula, right? Means that you can probably play as the vampire guy and make him straight. Remove homosexuals, lmao.
I don't think you can play as the companions this time
You can but not all of them. Only the ones that have a tadpole I think.
Right now that's Gale, Wyll, Astarion, Shadowheart and Lae'zel.
Maybe Karlach too but not sure.
[...] >nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week
Am I the only one who doesn't see this? It's two very different RPG audiences imo
Larian already sold it to the niche audience that is super interested in BG3.
Now they'll want to go for the rest so there's definitely some overlap and I think Starfield has them beat in that category since it has a lot more broad appeal given that it's made by the dudes that made Skyrim.
obviously starfield
baldurs gate is pozzed to the ears with lgbt stuff + prostitute normalizing stuff
if you're really into it, buy starfield and pirate bg3
that way you wont regret it
>baldurs gate is pozzed to the ears with lgbt stuff + prostitute normalizing stuff
Starfield is the king of pozz. What the frick is this complete cognitive dissonance with Bethesda drones?
I'll pirate both but obviously play Starfield first. I can't even imagine how much of a reeking incel one must be to prioritize BG3 after the cringy DOS2 writing fiasco.
>all the troons seething at BG3
KEK there are trannies in this thread that will keep telling you that BG3 is pozzed without having played the game. They will keep posting articles and lines upon lines of text without actually posting anything from the game. I've played the game. It is GOTY 2023. Anyone who says that the game is pozzed is a shitposting troon.
first of all >whataboutism, stop that
second, let's say you are right and when we rate them on a scale from 1 to 10, BG2 is a 1 and BG3 is a 2, then yeah you are correct it is more "complex" but that doesn't make it complex as a whole
you should rather tell me why BG3 is complex and a good game instead of proving that you hate the baldurs gate series and just get off to wotc parading it's corpse around
>complex as a whole
BG3 is complex as a whole. The only other game that is similar in complexity is DOS2.
Gotta be troons. Nobody straight can hate on BG3.
[...] >complex as a whole
BG3 is complex as a whole. The only other game that is similar in complexity is DOS2.
what is complex about a warlock spamming eldritch blast? or a fighter just hitting a dude 1-4 times and maybe doing some extra damage and pushing him once in a while?
>fighter just hitting a dude 1-4 times
Depends on what type of fighter you're playing. Battle Master has his combat skills and also has access to akk weapon specific skills that come from equipping different weapons. >staves can trip enemies >maces can daze enemies >greatswords can cleave
Play the fricking game, i am tiered of fricking imbeciles talking about the game without actually playing it.
For starters. >you can sneak in turn based mode >elevation matters >most objects around you you can interact with even during combat
About this one i'll give you a specific example. You're in combat and the enemy is too far for you to reach them, you can literally pick up a chair that in next to you and throw it at them. >consumables are usefull and can affect the environment
Another example. You can have one of your party members throw a waterbottle dousing a few enemies and have your caster go and zap them with shocking grasp since it transmits trough water. >enemy AI is reactive
You can sleep on enemies and they will try to wake up one another. >quests have multiple solutions the the point of being ridiculus
Do i have to write a whole fricking review of the first act to prove my point?
This has to be bait, you cannot be that fricking stupid. >you can sneak in turn based mode
Stealth is busted in this game, it trivializes the game. >most objects around you you can interact with even during combat
Barrels are everywhere, it trivializes the game. >you can literally pick up a chair that in next to you and throw it at them.
To do what? 3 DMG? moronic example. >consumables are usefull and can affect the environment
The wet status is moronic, it doubles lightning DMG, it trivializes the game. >enemy AI is reactive >You can sleep on enemies and they will try to wake up one another.
Too bad they turned shove into a bonus action, you can now one shot people with a BA, it trivializes the game. >quests have multiple solutions the the point of being ridiculus
Too bad Larian's writing is garbage and their writers are notorious cucks.
oh, you're just shitposting and haven't actually played the game.
Oh well.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Barrels are everywhere
The frick are you talking about troon? There are only a lot of barrels at the goblin camp since they are having a feast. I have the game installed right now. Go shitpost with your copy pasted twitted shitposts somewhere else.
Classic Lariancucks disregarding criticism, barrels are everywhere. You can literally one shot the tutorial mindflayer with alien barrels. Same shit in the Goblin camp or the Zentharim hideout. Lariantroons are something else, what a disingenuous bunch.
11 months ago
Anonymous
AAAAAAAAHHHHH
11 months ago
Anonymous
>there's barrels everywhere >literally only in the tutorial section to teach you about explosives and at one other spot
THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!!! YOU HEAR ME!! EVERYWHERE!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Reddit's still down huh?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>there's barrels everywhere >literally only in the tutorial section to teach you about explosives and at one other spot
THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!!! YOU HEAR ME!! EVERYWHERE!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
>Barrels are everywhere
The frick are you talking about troon? There are only a lot of barrels at the goblin camp since they are having a feast. I have the game installed right now. Go shitpost with your copy pasted twitted shitposts somewhere else.
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Classic Lariancucks disregarding criticism, barrels are everywhere. You can literally one shot the tutorial mindflayer with alien barrels. Same shit in the Goblin camp or the Zentharim hideout. Lariantroons are something else, what a disingenuous bunch.
Why are you deluding yourself into thinking that trannies won't love BG3? BG3 is going to be absolutely beloved and supported by trannies and you can't do anything about it.
You can't deny it's very liberal left leaning. Meaning you get a lot of women in positions of power, lots of "refugees good" talk and homos and Black folk are seen as normal.
>women in a position of power >Kagha is evil >Minthara is evil >Auntie Ethel is evil >the man Halsin in a position of power is good
You did not play the game if you are this delusional. BG3 is redpilled. You're just a seething troon.
I have several genre-specific character backgrounds. >me, but in space sci-fi >me, but in fantasy >me, but in a post-apocalyptic setting >me, but as an age-of-sail pirate >me, but in monster hunter
Probably a safe bet. They only showed one companion saying your name despite having a section where several companions could have said it. Instead they just repeatedly referred to you as "captain".
Although they could also have intended to leave the subject of companion dialogue vague just for the trailer so people watching could self-insert
I personally wouldn't say that BG3's combat is 'complex', not that it isn't or that it's simple but complexity (a word that could mean a great many things) isn't the first thing I think of.
I like BG3's gameplay systems because it provides a good mix of player freedom, interesting character building, all while still having engaging moment to moment gameplay
>finally bit the bullet and started a DOS II run >autism tells me to do an honor mode run after that >will have baldur's gate 3 around the time I'm done with these
Let's be honest, not a single man out there believes Starfield will be ready at launch and most people will wait for the unofficial patch because Bethesda is known for not fixing their own games.
With my luck, I will probably get filtered at the first Alexandar fight by getting 2 crit backstabs in a row and the worm focusing and oneshotting my squad.
Got Todd?
I still don't know what this means
Probably just a 'got milk?' thing
It isn't fair this thread will die inactive.
This is a HUGE summer for janky rpgs
I really hate how Larian prioritises their super special OC donut steel party member storylines over the player character.
Isn't that just typical 'make your own story' shit? As in the companion character stories become part of your own story rather than overtaking it
To add to what this anon said
Tav (the player character) has something that makes them unique compared to the companions: being the descendant of a Bhaalspawn which will almost surely be a relevant to the plot point given the role The Dead Three in said plot.
>Tav (the player character)
Wait, what the frick is a Tav? Did they actually name your main character for you?
It's the default name but you can change it of course.
I think short for Gustav which if I remember correctly is the name one of the developer's dog.
I prefer the armor and outfit designs in BG3 but it's kinda like comparing apples to oranges.
Yeah that's why I said I doubt I'll be able to finish it before SF comes out. My first playthrough of the EA clocked in at around 60 hours or so because I like exploring every nook and cranny. And that's not even the entirety of act 1 so yeah, probably not going to happen.
Who is this QT elf
It's someone's else's character.
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/images/281
I'm just grabbing images from the nexus.
They said they initially decided to have the city split up in different sections (similar to the the one from BG1) and eventually someone proposed they make it seamless which is why they ended up dedicating a lot more time to the city itself than they initially predicted.
It was never stated that this was done late in development.
That wasn't my experience.
Time will tell how the approach pans out for BG3.
Is it gay to make a character you want to frick? It's gotta be gay on some kind of level right?
That's what the waifu designer is for. Take it from the antilarian schizo
I was in that thread. Seeing the screencap makes me smile still.
>It's the default name but you can change it of course.
>I think short for Gustav which if I remember correctly is the name one of the developer's dog.
That's pretty cute. I thought they might be doing a Shepard, and the character has a pre-established last name or something
> Which?
Baldur's Gate 3. Easy answer.
BG3 is the best rpg ever made and will probably be game of the decade. Starfield is a buggy, janky, soullesss, procgen space sim. The choice is pretty obvious.
I don't know, anon, sf seems to have more roleplaying potential
I'll be playing both.
They release within a week of each other though
I'll probably finish a playthrough of BG3 before starting SF but I doubt I'll be able to play SF on release if I do that.
I'm fine with that, there's no rush.
Or I'll just bounce between them. I have a friend that I played through DOS1 and 2 with and we might be playing BG3 together and if that happens then I'll probably play Starfield when I'm not playing BG3 with him.
IDK on one hand I'd love to play BG3 with him but on the other having 2 player controlled characters in the party means less time you get to spend with the companions to see their character develop and being able to set your own pace is always nice. Maybe I'll play a solo campaign in parallel.
But the City is not available in EA.
I'm excited about it myself but don't overhype yourself too much only to be disappointed it's not the game you imagined in your head, anon.
I think maybe he might have meant the secret beta test that Larian did that you had to sign an NDA about
They come out a week apart. Even if you'll be playing 16-20 hours a day you won't finish it. Not unless you plan to play as a murderhobo and just slaughter your way through the entire game without doing any side content and skipping through all dialogue.
I never overhype myself. I always hype myself the right amount. That's why i also had a ton of fun with Cyberpunk 2077.
>Cyberpunk 2077
Played it on release and absolutely loved it.
It will have been just a week so don't expect anything major it terms of patches.
It's one of my concerns about BG3: looking at DOS1&2 the final acts were no very polished.
Allegedly they did more QA this time around to iron things out.
You cant make characters like this without mods. The base models for females are all hideous
Starfield obviously. It's not even a competition.
>sims vs fallout/skyrim in space
i take skyrim in space. Left all the info i got look mediocre at best, Larian can't write good characters, story, can't make good locations, etc. The name Baldur's gate is there just to bait people, that game is divinity 3.
>2019 bait
nice arguments gay
>They made a seamless Baldur's Gate city
that's what they said loser, did you played the entire game? play some Larian games then start talking, stop defending Larian, only larian drones do that, oh wait, i talk with 2 of them, a lot lately.
>nice arguments gay
>WHY DIDNT YOU HECKIN ARGUE MY WEAKASS POINTS
Calling the game 'Divinity 3' is so stale at this point. You could've gotten away with it in 2019 when it was like that. But its been 3 years. The two games are nothing alike
They made a seamless Baldur's Gate city, you fricking moron. That city will have 10x more content than the entirety of Starfield.
Stop listening to mentally ill shitposters like an NPC and form your own opinion.
>That city will have 10x more content than the entirety of Starfield.
>Stop listening to mentally ill shitposters
He is right. Starfield is procedually generated copy pasted planets. If this is what you consider content i'd say that you're moronic and should just play Minecraft/No Man's Sky.
Larian are really going over and beyond with the city. People that have not played the early access might not be able to appreciate this screenshot but i've played it and my mind is blown.
>you can see the city walls even from the guard bridge
I need to find some better screenshots. I hate youtube compression.
And yet the city won't even top the one from the same franchise 20 years ago
They even admitted it was a late development decision to make it seamless
25 years ago* godamn
Are you moronic? It's obviously better. You gotta be baiting by writing crap like that.
Have you played through it?
>Which?
You tell me.
Neither
Great combat, shit exploration vs shit combat, great exploration
I don't know, play either until I get tired of their shitty aspects
>combat, great exploration
You call exploring empty procedurally generated worlds great? BG3 has carefully handcrafted maps filled to brim with so much content you'll still be finding new secrets and content after hundreds of hours and dozens of playthroughs.
Both, obviously
I have two eyes, two hands and two computers
>check out BG3
>early access
from all the threads i thought it was pretty much done by now... worth buying?
>worth buying?
Yes.
>inb4 shill
Call me shill as much as you like, the game is great.
Nah you just like larian trash, at least shills get paid for pushing such opinions. Really though some of the posts in this thread do seem suspect.
Wait till it's out. August 31st is just 2 months away
If he is going to be buying the game he might as well do it now since you get the digital delux for free if you bought the game early.
this game looks cool, what's the catch
It's pretty pozzed.
>what's the catch
You need to learn all the game mechanics in order to enjoy it fully. Brainlets will hate it. It's not an action game. It has tactical combat and complex interactions while exploring. If you're dumb you should play Starfield instead. I am not memeing. Dumb people will fail way too hard in BG3 and will be unhappy with the game.
>5e rules
>tactical combat and complex interactions
LOL
He is right. BG3 combat is way more complex than BG2 combat.
first of all >whataboutism, stop that
second, let's say you are right and when we rate them on a scale from 1 to 10, BG2 is a 1 and BG3 is a 2, then yeah you are correct it is more "complex" but that doesn't make it complex as a whole
you should rather tell me why BG3 is complex and a good game instead of proving that you hate the baldurs gate series and just get off to wotc parading it's corpse around
I'm dumb and played thru dos2 fairly competently.
if bg3 is similar then I should have no problem.
no, too many issues, + larian homosexualry, wait a year after launch or more.
if is your first CRPG yeah sure, also shilling
>the numbers of the posters remain the same
It releases at the end of august. I have around 200-ish hours in it and had a blast.
I say give it a pirate, try it out and if you like it buy the normal edition before it comes out since everyone that gets in the early access gets upgraded to the special edition or whatever it's called when the full game releases.
Wasn't aware of them doing that. Nevermind then.
Both look like shit, bg3 will have extra cuckoldry in it though
The main question is which will have better fashion
Depends on how buggy BG3 is at launch.
Although if I skip it for starfield and that also comes out buggy, then at that moment BG3 will probably have been patched enough to play
Starfield will be buggy out the ass. Have you ever played a Bethesda game before?
I doubt it will be that buggy this time. They had over a million people play through the EA for 3 years and Larian has expanded their team from 150 to 500 devs for BG3.
You are a fricking shill. There is nothing else that explains your post there.
The god damn game has been in EA for years, with almost no change what so ever. Paladin as a class, took over two fricking years. That is a complete joke.
How is it even possible to be this supid? I'm actually face-palming and cringing irl. Why is that every rabid Larian hater doesn't know anything about the games they hate ao much? What makes people like this?
>They had over a million people play through the EA for 3 years
The great majority played only act 1 tho. If I'm not mistaken it was the same with the Original Sin games which is why those games had a lot more polished first acts compared to the rest of the game.
>with almost no change what so ever.
So you haven't played it I guess.
It was one of my concerns going into the EA but they dialed it down quite a bit compared to DOS.
The overall tone of the interactions and how things are presented is more serious.
I played DOS2 day 1. It was plenty polieshed the whole way trough. People that cry about the game either played lone wolf or did not play the game at all.
I don't need to play some three year old sixty dollar EA trash that any reasonable person has pointed out a complete lack of content having been added.
You are a homosexual shill, and the worst part is, you're probably doing it for free.
nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week, only people like me who play CRPG, normal gays don't play them, also a lot shilling for this game, i wonder how much larian is paying them, the launch is in 2 months
You're a moron. A lot of people already bought the game years ago and played the early access. We are not shills. We simply played act 1 of the game already.
>Allegedly they did more QA this time around to iron things out.
After Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 i've pretty much lost all respect i had for Bethesda and i am one of the people that actually loved Fallout 3.
>nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week
They should unironically release it a few weeks ahead of schedule, bugs be damned. Terrible timing to launch at the same time as a Bethesda juggernaut, there's a good amount of overlap between their playerbases. Releasing later sounds risky too, because people will be consumed by Starfield for a couple of months at least.
>nobody will give a frick about BG3 when Starfield launch after a week
Am I the only one who doesn't see this? It's two very different RPG audiences imo
Bethesda slop aren't even rpgs. They're closer to action-adventure games like BOTW, Assassin's Creed, RDR, Cyberpunk 2077 and GTA than to rpgs. That's who their audience is - normalgays. RPG connoisseurs will be playing BG3.
What aspect of roleplaying will bg3 allow that starfield won't?
Saying "no".
You get to lick goblin feet.
And this after Sven went on and on about releasing in a good window in that one Dos2 documentary.
They even announced the date after starfield's was fixed
DOS2 had the third biggest rpg launch on steam, after Skyrim and Fallout 4. That was just a niche, indie eurojank game with no marketing. Larian is much more popular and beloved today, and they're making a game for a very popular and iconic franchise. There is far bigger interest in BG3 than there was for DOS2, and EA numbers show that. DOS2 peaked at 3k players during EA, BG3 at 50k. DOS2 then launched with nearly 100k players. How much players will BG3 have at launch if it follows the same pattern as DOS1 and DOS2? 300k 500k? Even more than that? It's going to be one of the biggest steam launches for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if it even beats Starfield. It's cheaper, has lower spec requirements, has far more popular genre and has 4 player co-op. Starfield is a new IP, and Bethesda has lost a ton of reputation with the general audience over the past years. Who even likes space sims besides autists? This game will have zero appeal with the usual normalgay audience that Skyrim and Fallout appealed to. Basically, what I'm saying is to not write off BG3 just yet. Larian is still an indie company and don't have the resources to market their games like AAA slop to shove it into everyone's face all the time, but that doesn't mean they aren't popular.
Anon, you should be able to notice when you're crossing over from 'The evidence obviously points to this' to 'I really want all these specific things to happen in the exact ways I imagine because I like this game'.
BG3 is nowhere near as popular as Starfield. Every single metric possible confirms this.
They're not that far apart as you think even after Starfield's recent big marketing push, pic related. Anyway, you missed the point I was making. AAA slop relies on big budget marketing campaigns to generate buzz and sell their games, Larian games rely entirely on positive word of mouth, good reviews and free advertising from streamers/youtubers. The non-linear gameplay and co-op is perfect for content makers because it's fun to play and fun to watch. BG3's "marketing" will start when reviewers and content makers will get their hands on the game. That's when most people outside of the larian/bg/dnd/crpg bubble will learn about it and notice it for the first time.
Forgot pic
Yes, i base what games i play on GoogleTrends. See a lot of morons will be playing final Fantasy so so should I. Jesus i had no idea that Ganker was filled with NPCs.
Anon, the claim was that BG3 is nowhere near as popular Starfield, I then made an argument that they're not so far apart and provided data to support it. My claim isn't based on gut feeling or wishful thinking like the other anon was saying.
I agree with some of your points but I think you're underestimating Starfield and its appeal especially after that Starfield presentation they had.
Everyone and their mom was talking about i after thatt, it goes beyond just spacesim fans (I wouldn't even consider Starfield to be one but that's beyond my point).
Bethesda and MS had a good opportunity to get people hyped for their game and they absolutely nailed it.
Jesus Christ kiddo, you will choke on Larian wiener, take it easy. Is this redddit postor bot post?
>DOS2 had the third biggest rpg launch on steam
hahaha, this is bait, no point to argue further, but why not, gay go read some steam stats, DOS2 is not even in top 30 most buyed or biggest launched game on steam in the RPG genre.
CRPG genre is not that big. Starfield will sell 5-10 million in the first week, BG3 will be lucky if they sell 5 million in 3-4 years. They have money for marketing, a lot of shilling of this game lately
>They have money for marketing, a lot of shilling of this game lately
Obviously not. Any and all 'shilling' mostly comes from autismo superfans like me. Larian's biggest misstep is the absolutely abysmal marketing that doesn't appeal to anyone who isn't already interested. It's because of this alone that BG3 will not sell as well as it could.
I'm a new player, I was hooked by the super cool cgi cthulu movie they made a few years ago and the city reveal recently looked cool. Apart from that nothing makes me want to play the game. Still planning on buying it though because of all the shilling on Ganker.
>Still planning on buying it though because of all the shilling on Ganker.
Seethe posts like this only make me want to buy it even more 🙂
>Apart from that nothing makes me want to play the game
Yeah, the city thing was the best thing they've done marketing wise, because it actually showed new gameplay things we haven't seen before. Seeing Minsc and the villains is nice for people in the know like me, but as marketing they are absolutely not the way to go. They should be selling this as a 5e game for normalgays.
>Starfield will sell 5-10 million in the first week
On what system? It's not on Switch, it's on on PS4 or PS5, it's not on Xbox One. It's only on PC and Xbox Series X/S. It's also free on game pass day 1. Who the frick is even going to buy it except steam cuck mustards with their $2000 rigs? Cyberpunk, ER and Hogwarts Legacy sold under 10m on PC, and they're 10x more popular than Starfield. They're so far apart in popularity and hype that Starfield is a literal who in comparison, and you think it will sell anywhere in the same ballpark as those giants? Bethesda drones are completely out of touch and are living in the past. The company has lost most of its good will with the general audience after repeated blunders in the past ten years.
>All trending at rock bottom pre-release.
>All exploded at release.
>The one you're making a point against hasn't released yet.
I wonder why you would do this
BG3 might not even break even it's that niche. Starfield will dominate the gaming landscape for 3 months minimum.
COD also sells a lot. COD is also trash, so what is your point?
It already broke even with its EA, which is $60.
Neither
Have you ever play a Larian game? Cringe comedy dialogue and weak storytelling. They couldn’t have been a worse game studio to work on a Baldurs Gate game.
>They couldn’t have been a worse game studio to work on a Baldurs Gate game.
bioware
>They couldn’t have been a worse game studio to work on a Baldurs Gate game.
Bethesda
Please
trash FromSlop
Not interested in pozzed fantasy garbage wearing my beloved franchise's name. Do be interested in Todd's newest kino that may or may not be his magnum opus and the best game ever made.
Turn-based dice rolling sucks so it's definitely Starfield.
Todds shitty burger
moron
It’s obviously Todd’s Famous Patty Melt
BG3 is the best game.
It follows Larian's "play as companion" formula, right? Means that you can probably play as the vampire guy and make him straight. Remove homosexuals, lmao.
I don't think you can play as the companions this time
You can. Just not in the early access.
You can but not all of them. Only the ones that have a tadpole I think.
Right now that's Gale, Wyll, Astarion, Shadowheart and Lae'zel.
Maybe Karlach too but not sure.
Larian already sold it to the niche audience that is super interested in BG3.
Now they'll want to go for the rest so there's definitely some overlap and I think Starfield has them beat in that category since it has a lot more broad appeal given that it's made by the dudes that made Skyrim.
I HATE SYNTHETIC MEAT!!!!!!!!!
What does the gastronomy skill do?
>gay shit with Black folk or troony shit with Black folk
>with Black folk
>with Black folk
You obviously skipped 75% of all rpgs ever made so why even come to the thread
obviously starfield
baldurs gate is pozzed to the ears with lgbt stuff + prostitute normalizing stuff
if you're really into it, buy starfield and pirate bg3
that way you wont regret it
>baldurs gate is pozzed to the ears with lgbt stuff + prostitute normalizing stuff
Starfield is the king of pozz. What the frick is this complete cognitive dissonance with Bethesda drones?
I'll pirate both but obviously play Starfield first. I can't even imagine how much of a reeking incel one must be to prioritize BG3 after the cringy DOS2 writing fiasco.
>after the cringy DOS2 writing fiasco
You never played the game.
>BG3
>great
>Starfield
>No Man's Skyrimslop
>BG3
>cuckshit
>Starfield
>troonyshit
Imagine wanting to support Wizards of the Pozz. Lariandrones are literal cattle.
>all the troons seething at BG3
KEK there are trannies in this thread that will keep telling you that BG3 is pozzed without having played the game. They will keep posting articles and lines upon lines of text without actually posting anything from the game. I've played the game. It is GOTY 2023. Anyone who says that the game is pozzed is a shitposting troon.
>without actually posting anything from the game
Here's your dwarf bro
Is this the best you've got? This nothingburger? This is optional you turd. When Starfield has a literal golem character creator?
>w-w-what about Starfield
Here's your elf bro
>make a thing you find offensive
>get offended by it
If this isn't a sign of severe mental illness I don't know what is.
Gender freaks' mere existence is offensive.
Then don't play as a troon.
Gotta be troons. Nobody straight can hate on BG3.
>complex as a whole
BG3 is complex as a whole. The only other game that is similar in complexity is DOS2.
>BG3 is complex as a whole. The only other game that is similar in complexity is DOS2.
Prove it.
yeah i wanna hear that too
what is complex about a warlock spamming eldritch blast? or a fighter just hitting a dude 1-4 times and maybe doing some extra damage and pushing him once in a while?
>fighter just hitting a dude 1-4 times
Depends on what type of fighter you're playing. Battle Master has his combat skills and also has access to akk weapon specific skills that come from equipping different weapons.
>staves can trip enemies
>maces can daze enemies
>greatswords can cleave
Play the fricking game, i am tiered of fricking imbeciles talking about the game without actually playing it.
>Play the fricking game
Nope, keep seething
>Nope, keep seething
For starters.
>you can sneak in turn based mode
>elevation matters
>most objects around you you can interact with even during combat
About this one i'll give you a specific example. You're in combat and the enemy is too far for you to reach them, you can literally pick up a chair that in next to you and throw it at them.
>consumables are usefull and can affect the environment
Another example. You can have one of your party members throw a waterbottle dousing a few enemies and have your caster go and zap them with shocking grasp since it transmits trough water.
>enemy AI is reactive
You can sleep on enemies and they will try to wake up one another.
>quests have multiple solutions the the point of being ridiculus
Do i have to write a whole fricking review of the first act to prove my point?
This has to be bait, you cannot be that fricking stupid.
>you can sneak in turn based mode
Stealth is busted in this game, it trivializes the game.
>most objects around you you can interact with even during combat
Barrels are everywhere, it trivializes the game.
>you can literally pick up a chair that in next to you and throw it at them.
To do what? 3 DMG? moronic example.
>consumables are usefull and can affect the environment
The wet status is moronic, it doubles lightning DMG, it trivializes the game.
>enemy AI is reactive
>You can sleep on enemies and they will try to wake up one another.
Too bad they turned shove into a bonus action, you can now one shot people with a BA, it trivializes the game.
>quests have multiple solutions the the point of being ridiculus
Too bad Larian's writing is garbage and their writers are notorious cucks.
oh, you're just shitposting and haven't actually played the game.
Oh well.
Classic Lariancucks disregarding criticism, barrels are everywhere. You can literally one shot the tutorial mindflayer with alien barrels. Same shit in the Goblin camp or the Zentharim hideout. Lariantroons are something else, what a disingenuous bunch.
AAAAAAAAHHHHH
Reddit's still down huh?
>there's barrels everywhere
>literally only in the tutorial section to teach you about explosives and at one other spot
THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!!! YOU HEAR ME!! EVERYWHERE!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
>Barrels are everywhere
The frick are you talking about troon? There are only a lot of barrels at the goblin camp since they are having a feast. I have the game installed right now. Go shitpost with your copy pasted twitted shitposts somewhere else.
*crickets*
Yeah, but you're a troony and BG3 is bad divinity 2 clone! Did I mention the bad larian writing?
Why are you deluding yourself into thinking that trannies won't love BG3? BG3 is going to be absolutely beloved and supported by trannies and you can't do anything about it.
dilate
It's over, anon. Trannies love BG3, chuds hate it.
Dilate and kys.
I am not a troon and i love BG3. Now kys.
you have to be a troony if you love anything dnd related in current year
Nah, they'll be busy playing Starslop as evident by their posts itt.
You can't deny it's very liberal left leaning. Meaning you get a lot of women in positions of power, lots of "refugees good" talk and homos and Black folk are seen as normal.
>women in a position of power
>Kagha is evil
>Minthara is evil
>Auntie Ethel is evil
>the man Halsin in a position of power is good
You did not play the game if you are this delusional. BG3 is redpilled. You're just a seething troon.
I have several genre-specific character backgrounds.
>me, but in space sci-fi
>me, but in fantasy
>me, but in a post-apocalyptic setting
>me, but as an age-of-sail pirate
>me, but in monster hunter
I wonder if SF companions can call you anon
I hope it's not going to be just that robot with voiced names in dialogues like Codsworth in F4.
Probably a safe bet. They only showed one companion saying your name despite having a section where several companions could have said it. Instead they just repeatedly referred to you as "captain".
Although they could also have intended to leave the subject of companion dialogue vague just for the trailer so people watching could self-insert
I personally wouldn't say that BG3's combat is 'complex', not that it isn't or that it's simple but complexity (a word that could mean a great many things) isn't the first thing I think of.
I like BG3's gameplay systems because it provides a good mix of player freedom, interesting character building, all while still having engaging moment to moment gameplay
Then what do you consider to be complex combat or gameplay? Especially in the context of rpgs.
>non binary option in bg3 char creator
Frick out of here with your overpozzed garbage, shill
>finally bit the bullet and started a DOS II run
>autism tells me to do an honor mode run after that
>will have baldur's gate 3 around the time I'm done with these
Let's be honest, not a single man out there believes Starfield will be ready at launch and most people will wait for the unofficial patch because Bethesda is known for not fixing their own games.
>autism tells me to do an honor mode run after that
>honor mode
Good luck.
With my luck, I will probably get filtered at the first Alexandar fight by getting 2 crit backstabs in a row and the worm focusing and oneshotting my squad.
I already pre-ordered the premium edition of Starfield
I'll check out BG3 if it gets good reviews