Which “hobbies” are a waste of time and will get you nowhere in life/hurt your gains? I’ll list a few:
>gaming
>porn
>playing instruments
>listening to music
>reading fiction
>drinking/smoking
Which hobbies are a waste of time and will get you nowhere in life/hurt your gains? Ill list a few:. >gaming
>playing instruments
Dumbest c**t
Cope. Unless you’re making money off of music then it’s a waste. Learn a valuable skill like carpentry or shooting.
Cope. You will never justify time wasted on carpentry, economically it's more logical to just buy furniture
You will never shoot anyone outside designated ranges which is just videogames for men with small penises.
>carpentry
>furniture
Yeah why are you making cucked shit like that? Build some farm structures or other shit you can't just pick up at a furniture store.
>You will never shoot anyone outside designated ranges
Hunting and defense against hordes of urban youth.
Buying is a shack is time-inefficient it's easier to get contractors.
Hunting is a waste of time and money, it's cheaper to buy meat at the store. You never shot any "urban youth" and never will, homosexual
>it's cheaper to buy meat at the store
The cheapest way to buy meat per lb is order an animal directly from a farm and have it butchered. Hunting is a similar story depending on which animal you're shooting. That's especially true if you aren't some city slicker who has to go to a meme hunting resort. If you know how to butcher, it's even cheaper.
imagine hunting and not butchering
I taught myself. Its not that hard
There's zero chance hunting saves money unless you live innawoods. The time it takes you to drive to the range is the time I made enough money to buy a dozen steaks.
Actual hunter here. First of all, it depends what you're hunting, trapping, foraging.
With hunting there is a big initial investment, for camo, firearms, ammo, other stuff you may need, but after that all you really pay for is a tag.
With a whitetail deer, which is the most popular animal in America to hunt, You'll get about 50lbs of meat for Roughly 50$ if you include ammo, the gas to drive somewhere to go hunting unless you already live there like me, and a tag.
Obviously there are cheap hunts and expensive hunts. If you're flying on a bushplane to go into Alaska and kill a Caribou during the great Caribou migration, that'll cost you more than if you trap or hunt bunny rabbits in your back yard with a .22LR or bow & arrow
This is correct. Of course the purpose of any patrician hobby should not be to "save money", that almost by definition makes it not patrician.
>Buying is a shack is time-inefficient it's easier to get contractors.
Buying a shack is time-inefficient? What?
>it's cheaper to buy meat at the store
It's not about cost, it's about learning a skill in the event things go bad and also hearing the scream of an animal as you exact your will over it
>in the event things go bad
>You will when things go south
You do know that if whatever apocalypse you're praying for does come fruition, you'd be dead in under a week, right? No amount of prepping will save you from a nuclear holocaust
But fantasizing about killing brown people like a zombie movie makes me feel less pathetic and unfulfilled
>No amount of prepping will save you from a nuclear holocaust
Why the frick are we talking about a "nuclear holocaust"?
Let's just say the dollar completely collapses and we can't keep cutting limitless checks to feed brown people, law enforcement is overwhelmed and it's hard to get food. Watts riots, George Floyd nonsense, covid-level shortages everywhere as mass looting and a lack of law enforcement have basically made getting shit dangerous to impossible.
Then sitting on a farm, many miles from urban youth, with plenty of food in the cellar and chickens I'm raising, nice bustling garden is pretty nice.
Nuke-wise, under 500 or even 2,000 warheads hitting the US large parts of the country are going to be untouched or minimally affected. If you're not within or right next to a major city or military base you're not going to be vaporized. Then it'd mostly be a matter of staying inside a radiation-protected area with filtered air for a few days to weeks to avoid fallout. Radiation from an atomic blast drops off dramatically both as a function of distance from the blast epicenter and time.
You can adjust for larger bombs today, but point is you can have a massive nuclear strike that kills hundreds of millions of people but doesn't touch you if you're just a bit away from really big targets.
you sound like an immense homosexual frfr
The time it takes to build a shed/shack, buy the materials is really not that much. Like 8 hours? Maybe an extra hour or so for painting, which if its treated lumber you won't have to anyways. Plus it feels great to work with your hands and build something good and sturdy.
>Which “hobbies” are a waste of time and will get you nowhere in life
all of them including lifting
>hurt your gains
all of them except lifting
as someone already pointed to you its more sensible to pay someone else to do it. assuming you earn a decent living and value your free time more than your hourly rate at your job, it very rarely makes sense to do any kind of construction or resource gathering yourself.
all hobbies are a waste of time if you only put value on some kind of tangible product coming from it. time spent enjoying wasting time i not wasted.
>time spent enjoying wasting time i not wasted
Based. That's what makes it a hobby, not a hustle.
>tryhard self improover detected
I'd shoot you if I could OP.
>NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LEARN LE EPIC USEFULL SKILL
cringe
actual bugman mindset
Lol. Imagine being so fricked in a yad that you allow yourself to have hobbies only to make money.
>Shooting
Fricking military cosplaying LARPers man...
>Hey guys, check out all the Velcro pockets on my tactical vest. They go perfectly with my new tac flashlight, tac pocket knife and tac visor in my black lifted jeep. So cool guys. Guys....?
>valuable skill
>shooting
Suppose, if your entire life plan is to be the next Ulvade shooter or something
grindset beta minded homosexual
>you've gotta be part of the system in order to have meaning to what you enjoy doing, if you ain't making money from it then it's useless
the state of homosexuals nowadays
yeah. i guess they don't know all the hobos that played music during the depression to stay sane.
the israelite dillian stole their mudic and called it folk music.
do what you love to do anons
As someone who taught himself how to play guitar, yes. It's fricking pointless if you aren't a Henson or Abasi, or if you don't play in a band and have a presence in the music scene.
oopsie woopsie, i was a bit moronic just then
>if you can’t be the best at something don’t even try
All hobbies are pointless man. Not everything needs to make you money. I play piano and I will most likely never make a dime from it but it is one of the handful of things that bring me joy. I play for friends and family members occasionally but mostly I play for me.
Then don't call it pointless. You can't call something pointless then make a case for why it's worth doing.
not him but self enjoyment is literally the point of hobbies. Beyond that they're pointless. did you really need to be told that?
Idiot.
>As someone who taught himself how to play guitar, yes. It's fricking pointless if you aren't a Henson or Abasi,
I'm guessing you learned how to play rock on an electric, which is a band style, and you don't have a band? Transition to a solo string instrument, like acoustic, classical, lute, or slide guitar.
You guessed wrong. I learned theory and the fretboard with octaves and scales and chord scales on an acoustic. I have friends that play in bands. They sold albums and make money with what they do, but they've been doing since since they were still in high school.
I started playing guitar when I was 28. Waaaay too late to do anything that would make me money but I do it for the love of the instrument now.
Nah, not too late if you go all out
Those guys in IDKHBTFM started in their 40s.
>It's fricking pointless
What the frick do you mean pointless? As in if you're not top1% in skills it's difficult to gain money from it? Sure. But it doesn't mean it's useless, artistic skills are good for the soul. Maybe you're too israeli for that
What makes no sense at all lmao.
You don’t have to play like Abasi to be successful in a band setting, like nowhere near close to that good. Maybe you just suck lmao
bait
just because someone is moronic doesn't mean it's bait
>YOU MUST MONETISE EVERYTHING!!1!
I don't give a FRICK about your israelite cash
Begone.
Carpentry and shooting are two of the most useless skills hahahahahahah. Appreciating life through art is a much higher pursuit.
yea who needs to fix shit around the house
What are you breaking in your house that requires a carpenter to fix?
There is a difference between being a carpenter and carpentry. Just like you don't need to be a mechanic to give your truck an oil change. Anyway. What does being good with wood help you with when you own a home?
>putting up trim, coat racks, building furniture, fixing a broken couch leg perhaps, build your kids a bookshelf, fixing your deck, fixing a tear on your roof, building planting boxes for gardening, fixing a closet door
You can tell you aren't a homeowner anon. Literally shit just breaks and if you don't fix it you're a basketball american
every time i play online video games with black people they have a smoke detector going off in the background and you can hear it on the mic
Also, mexicans seem to have their entire family in the background
The shit you're describing can be done by looking up tutorials on YouTube, like how to drypatch a wall or fix a leak. It's not a hobby.
Building furniture sounds fricking stupid, especially when FB Marketplace exists. I furnished my last apartment in a day for $300.
holy gen z
You'll get it one day kid.
Bro, I'm 30. Whatever you think life is like, you're wrong. It's all about hussle today and I keep moving.
Yeah hustling so hard you're furnishing an apartment from furniture you buy from trailer rats on Facebook
All I'm saying is knowing how to fix shit is a good thing to have in your tackle box, and shooting accurately is fun (even more so if you hunt). Calm down
Legit, what the frick are you breaking that requires advanced knowledge only obtained from making this shit into a hobby?
Why would I waste all afternoon building a bookshelf when I can buy one for $15? That's probably cheaper than the fricking lumber at Home Depot. Plus, it can be a way meet people.
I wouldn't consider it a hobby as much as "DIY" in and of itself is a hobby. I take pride in my home, and don't mind having it finely tuned, Shit breaks, I fix it. I see something I can do that can increase sweat equity, I do it to make more money on the eventual sale. We see something that we want to change and process improve if you will--then I'll improve upon it and do a project. What I particularly enjoy is burning calories while customizing my home or fixing my home and having it work as intended, nothing better than having my lawn mowed, a bunch of shit on the honey-do list checked off, fixing something that was busted for a few days, and enjoying a nice meal with the family after a nice shower. I guess I just like being busy and productive. Carpentry can be helpful, as can plumbing skills, and painting skills, and landscaping/gardening skills when you are talking about the meta.
You are not Hank Hill. If you have fun with this shit, that's fine, but acting as if this something every man needs to learn is makes you sound moronic.
I prefer traveling and hiking. I've moved 4 times this year already, moving again this weekend, and twice more this year. Tinkering around the house like you is a complete waste of time for me. I'm not a fricking ape, so shit doesn't break around me.
I don't know who Hank Hill is, and its very obvious you are not a homeowner. You seem a bit of a nomad
Your life reads like a 24yo roastie's tinder bio. Unironically mogged by hank hill anon.
My guy, a 15 dollar bookshelf does not look as good nor would it match a room as good as a home had shelf.
*Homemade
I own a house and have done a lot of those things. I also work on my own truck. I've hung multiple fans. Done drywall repair. Small time plumbing (I'm afraid to frick up water fixtures will call a plumber in a minute). HVAC work.
I say all this because literally every single bit of that work was done after I spent 30min - hour watch youtube videos. I don't know fricking shit about any of it. I just watch videos and use common sense.
You sound like you only do something if it's approved by Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson
Girls love a man that plays an instrument and hate military LARPers. Go figure
homie, I actually do carpentry as a hobby. It's good in the sense I can do simple home repairs, but I am waaaaaaay net negative on $, even after rebuilding a deck and a porch in my house.
You know how much wood costs? Are you stealing from construction sites? Stock 2x4x88 are $5 each. Plywood is like $30 a sheet. Forget if you want nicer wood like oak or cedar you will be paying $15+ a beam.
What are you cutting that wood with anon? Are you really using a skil saw on some horses? Even that will cost you $150+. Of course you are using a table saw which start at $300. You probably habe a miter saw too for those angle cuts. Another $400. Then there's drills, clamps (corner clamp costs $40), nail guns....... You did know you need at least two different nail guns right anon?
Wow this hobby really makes me a lot of money. So glad I never learned how to play an instrument. Then I'd have to buy one and derive pleasure from it for years. What a money sink
women get wet when they hear a boy playing guitar
>You can only learn skills your money master approves
I hate to break it to you but your line of thinking is similar to that of a dog
Just gonna add onto the avalanche of replies calling you a gay, cause you've got some pretty dumb viewpoints
Grifting "hustlers" completely warped your view of reality.
>basing personal value off of your use to other people
the reason this thread is shit is because a pooplack made it
Actually based, although I have pulled ass by singing before.
>choosing not to enjoy playing music because you can’t make money off of it is based
It’s actually tragic
how is shooting a valuable skill?
It's mostly a chud larp fantasy. Being comfortable with firearms is important in case you ever need to use one though, plus shooting is extremely fun and you can get very autistic about it, great hobby. Unfortunately it's also a hobby filled with TONS of delusional tacticool larpers whose brains are filled with propaganda and call of duty.
The more I get into hobbies the more I realize they're all filled with really fricking awful people, probably because the most devoted people to that hobby are going to base their lives around the hobby and that's kind of weird.
>firearms: chud larpers who think they're going to need to take down a roving mexican drug gang
>HAM radio operators: A bunch of nerds who make radio their life and put many thousands of dollars into specialized radio equipment to make contacts around the world with other people using specialized radio equipment to talk to them about radio equipment and the weather. They'll say they do it "to make friends all over the world" and other bullshit but then you start asking questions like "well why not just use discord or twitch or reddit or whatever service to talk to strangers?" and they get really uncomfortable. I passed all three exams in one sitting and then realized how awful everyone is.
>Watches: a bunch of fat ugly people who get so obsessed with minor details that only other fat ugly people into watches recognize or care about. A $10 quartz watch is more accurate than anything they slobber over so they have to do mental gymnastics to pretend like they're cultured in spending $20,000 on a "timepiece"
Yeah most hobbies have a vocal minority of ubernerds. Blame lies on the nerds not the hobbies themselves though. A lot of "hobbies" are really just a very niche type of consoomption. Watches for example, hardly anyone is building custom watches, hacking them, restoring them etc. it's mostly people just buying watches and talking about how much they want to buy whatever tudor/rolex they can't get on the list for.
IMO hobbies are healthy and beneficial if you have a goal in mind. If not then you're kind of just dicking around and missing out on some life gainz.
>play guitar? make a goal to play "insert song" from memory
>ham radio? make a goal to make a contact with a ham from "insert continent"
>firearms? I want to shoot a sub moa group at 150yds with "insert rifle" from the bench
If you can't define an actionable goal then it's not a hobby, just consoomption.
Actionable goals are preferred, are all actionable goals desirable? I think it kind of still gets weird at some point.
Like using a radio to reach people in 7 continents? Like you know, that's kind of cool.
Every country? Every state? City? I dunno man. Exactly where it gets weird I won't say precisely, there's a range ift "well I think it's weird but I'm glad you're working hard at something that keeps you busy" but there's some point it still gets really truly weird.
A worthwhile hobby would be to “learn piano”. You’ll never totally “master” the piano (you’ll probably never be the best piano player in the world). But the pursuit of perfection is about the journey, not the destination. In order to make progress, you set goals, which gives you the dopamine you crave as you attain these goals and master new pieces of piano music. It’s something that can last a lifetime if you find that you love it.
>(you’ll probably never be the best piano player in the world)
I don't think you can comprehend how far removed the people who pick up piano for the hell of it are from clasically-trained pianists
it's like comparing minecraft players with civil engineers or crackheads with chem phds
not that it matters since your average normie can't fricking tell a midi piano roll from a real player, but whatever
I know, but it’s still statistically possible to be the best piano player in the world (if all the best players all died spontaneously or something). But yeah if you like piano music and the idea of playing it, you should learn how to play, even if you’ll never be the best player in the world. If it makes you happy that’s all that matters
Moron autist
>hobbies
>making money
Those aren't the same thing dumb moron, of course your OP picture was a stupid marine, someone who has no appreciation for art or beauty
have a nice day
> Unless you earn money from music you shouldn't learn an instrument
> You have to be competent on an instrument in order to make music
By your logic there would be no music in the world, anon.
You can pick up women if you know how to play guitar.
Even a bassist can pick up women by playing his instrument. A drummer probably can't tho.
Meh, idk man. I can play guitar, I also get laid a decent amount. Never once has playing the guitar been the difference between getting pussy and not getting pussy.
It doesn't make or break it but being good at something a female is interested in can be a foot in the door, especially works if you have a look to go with it like hipster douche to go with acoustic guitar coffeeshop music, emo gay for emo gay music or long hair and piercings and tats to go with heavy shit.
You’re extra special, besides how fricking stupid this is in general, you can literally sit down on a sidewalk in a busy area, play your favorite tunes and get money. I have watched my cousin make $200 in 30mins playing the same three songs on his banjo, how are you so moronic.
>valuable skill
>shooting
As someone who frickin loves sending lead down range, pick fricking one. If you're not infantry or a navy seal, knowing how to shoot isn't gonna make you any fricking money or fame. Jesus christ you're so desperate to make a point but you don't have the education or the experience to do so it's pathetic.
I already do that as well as play an instrument though.
BOOMER.
>Yes hello my tradeskill is my hobby
What
Ganker and other social media, internet addiction, scroooooling
How the hell is porn a hobby?
>"Hey jim still at the ol' porn?"
>"I am indeed, been on a natives/colonialism kick recently"
>"And do you imagine yourself as their master while jerking off?"
>"Sure as shit I do."
>"Fascinating."
Kek. Based Jim. I wonder how I could get into that hobby.
In fact, theremay be yet another kind of temporal anticipation,implying notthe clicks for clips but the climax of clips: cases in which the jerking off viewer tries to ‘synchronize’ his orgasm with a cum shot in the clip. I can offer no empirical data on this phenomenon, but anecdotal evidence from a couple of porn users I have talked to indicates that it is rather common. In this case the parallel ejaculations constitute a kind of double closure: the diegetic climax ending the mini-narrative within the clip; and the climax of the jerking off viewer in front of the screen.
If we combine this desire for ‘synchronization’ with the aforementioned search for the new, better and more satisfying clip, we end up with an interesting scenario. Since every search comes to its end when the porn consumer finally and for whatever reasons chooses his last clip, the thrilling anticipation of the search disappears, while suddenly a new kind of thrill erupts. Will the clip end with an ejaculation? And will the cum shot be a satisfying one?
Even if there is a quantitative dominance of cum-shot clips on Internet sites like YouPorn, obviously not every clip contains an ejaculation, let alone a satisfying one. Now, for the ‘synchronizing’ user the time line of the clip that was (at least temporarily) deemed satisfying enough will move inexorably from left to right. Since for him this clip can only be the last one if it turns out reasonably satisfying and it will be satisfying only when it ends with a cum shot, he will hope for a suspension of time the closer the timeline approaches its end so that a cum shot can still fit in the remaining time slot. But the more he hopes for this suspension of time and the arrival of the cum shot, the denser and more intense his time experience will be. This specific phenomenology of time is not unlike the one we know from scenes of suspense (for the phenomenology of time in two types of suspense, see Hanich 2010a).
I collect and sort my porn by actress and year, and then further sub-categorize by sex act, then gender, race and number of sexual partners in the scene. I'm a connoisseur you see.
You missed your opportunity for coomisseur. You had 1 fricking job.
Dedicated sorting software or physical?
>Which “hobbies” are a waste of time and will get you nowhere
Living
youre one of those turbo autists who want to min max everything
hobbies arent a waste of time even dumb ones like vidya. good time enjoyed isnt necessarily time wasted. people need decompression and they need enjoyment. you arent some mindless robot. you have a 40~ hour work week to work and the rest is so you can go to work and feel happy
bingo. its always 15 year olds who think like this. I dont care if OP is 30, hes still mentally 15 and wont ever make it whilst thinking like this
>youre one of those turbo autists who want to min max everything
Welcome to Ganker
What is min max
It means being a tryhard that tries to maximize monetary and socials gains in both his professional and private life
you got it OP strive to be the least interesting person in the room
>porn
>hobby
phew, smoking weed isn't listed. I'm safe.
No greater sign of an npc than disregard for music (commercial pop music doesn't count)
I don't play an instrument but you've got to be an absolute smooth brained homosexual to think playing one or even listening to music is in any way detrimental to you at all, also what said
It’s as if making/listening to music is a key part of the human experience and it’s ok to enjoy things.
the other anon must just be all about his 9-5 office job, 2 hours each way drive, music has no priority in an office drones life
I’m an office drone and music is one of the only things that keep me from going insane
If you can live off of making music, THAT is priority. Otherwise, you copers pretend like the time to have leisure comes for free. You can enjoy your music but don't sit there and act like it wouldn't be a better use of your time to invest in more valuable skills.
>BBUT BUT THE MATRIX AND THE SYSTEM
Can you live off your musical enjoyment? No? Then shut the frick up.
What “more valuable” skills are you talking about? Side hustles? Music is a passion for me but no one is saying that you should quit your day job to play music.
Are you a moron who doesn't understand what a hobby is? Hobbies are leisure time. If you were working because it netted you the most money it wouldn't be a hobby, it'd be a hustle.
The story is older than time, you make your hobby to your hussle (even partially) and after a good while you start to hate what you loved
instruments
Proven to raise soft IQ, fricking moron
to music
Fine in moderation, occasionally when working or relaxing
fiction
Proven to lower cortisol, the stress hormone, so actually ideal as a 30mim pre-bed routine.
Porn and games? Absolutely, mind, thought and time drain, damages brain receptors.
>Fine in moderation, occasionally when working or relaxing
Huge cope, “moderation” is a fallacy and a slippery slope. Alcoholic mentality
Believing moderation is a fallacy is what dumbass wingnuts believe. And they're usually stuck in their own circle jerk hugboxes so they can't think outside of that
>Proven to raise soft IQ, fricking moron
>Science told me!
Music is just as bad if not worse than video games.
t. brainlet that cant coordinate his limbs
You will never impress women at a party by picking up a controller and getting teh hi scorez at bing bing wahoo like you will with a guitar or piano
>reading fiction
>Proven to lower cortisol
Yep that's how I know you're moronic. The advertisement israelites paid some other israelites to do an experiment with like 20 people and had them read fiction vs not and cortisol was lower?
You're then fricking moronic in concluding reading fiction should be done, holy shit a billion things will lower cortisol.
Lmao The same questionable type of study that you're referencing to speek positively about music and books most definitely exists for porn and videogames. That's called confirmation bias kids. Maybe you should have played more piano or whatever and you'd realize how silly you look.
Hey! You're just mad because I'm able to do something with my fricking guitar hands that you'll never be able to achieve in your fricking life, kid.
So yeah, You're gay.
Important too is to remember there's an optimal stopping point to most hobbies per month or per life, after which you should do something else.
Halfway decent:
>Raising your own chickens, pigs, ducks, geese etc.
>Setting up irrigation and rain capture systems to keep your land well watered even in times of drought or if the well fails
>Building a greenhouse for your wife to grow crops in
>Getting solar set up so you can run off the grid in the event of a power outage
>Learning radio communications, getting a repeater and base station up and running to talk to anyone on your property and HF to talk much, much further in the event of comms failure
>Building shelves to store dry foods with long shelf-lives.
I don't need any of this because of my earning power. Is this thread just poor cope?
You will when things go south, that's the point of a patrician homestead. You can obviously pay Jose to manage it once you understand how it works.
Hunting and Fishing
Just go buy food from the store you Joe Rogan wannabee
Next thing you know cooking isn't acceptable because you can just go pay for a three-star Michelin meal. And painting or sculptor isn't because you can hire someone to do that.
Are you too moronic to understand a hobby? Or are the only acceptable hobbies consuming vidya, porn and movies?
>drinking/smoking
>gaming
>porn
Yes
>playing instruments
>listening to music
>reading fiction
wrong
Not being happy or having some form of variety in your applied mental effort will lead to an unhealthy mind. This guy is really trying to tell us not to have fun?
More so, if you're trying to make yourself interesting to others in social settings or learn how to create things which could lead to a side hustle, like writing your own story or creating your own game, all of these are totally legit things to be doing.
I'VE BEEN GAMING SINCE 1988!
VIDEO GAMES ARE THE WORST POSSIBLE WASTE OF TIME. I WOULD'VE EVEN CALL THEM UNPRODUCTIVE, THEY ARE ANTIPRODUCTIVE. THEY'RE FINE AS A SOCIAL BONDING ACTIVITY, BUT PLAYING GAMES BY YOURSELF IN ANY CAPACITY IS THE DUMBEST SHIT YOU CAN DO TO YOURSELF.
I am 34 and nobody my age or anyone I know with kids plays video games. It is truly a waste of time activity for losers. Wooo you won the Super Bowl in Madden. You won a Mario-Kart race! Zip Zam Yahoo! Nobody cares. You could have spent that time learning something or working out.
Do you work in an office? Because I think the people who price you out of you being their friends might have different tastes.
tbf I know a state's attorney general (with kids) who spends probably the majority of his free time playing vidya. Major fatass, but whatever. Doesn't disprove your rule.
That is why he is fat
People have their interests. I don't judge them unless they're really weird like being a furry or something, so all I ask is they don't judge me
I agree he's fat and vidya contributes, but he does have kids and he's extremely well educated and has had a successful career. So he's not really a loser.
>being on Ganker
>thinks he has any authority to tell people what productive hobbies are
If lowering stress isn't valuable to you then you aren't working a serious job. You're most likely some trailer trash that thinks he totally works harder than white collars.
I think the most wasteful is playing "holier than thou Ubermensch" on 4chab.
>I've just always used that free time to make money or workout or play sports
I make $65k and I have a home gym, a car, a laptop, a tablet, and a digital piano. I train in my gym almost daily, play my piano, and I attend a piano lesson once a week. I have no use for any additional money and I've been saving it for like two years now buying only food, a picture for my wall, or a hardcover book on occasion. I really don't see the use of money once you have everything you want.
Yeah but you probably live in rural America. Yuck
No I live in the suburbs which is more gross but my commute to work is only 15 minutes so I'm not complaining. I do have great big public park a two block walk away from my house so I go for runs there or just walk around and enjoy the trees.
I work from home. I hunt, fish, and garden during working hours. I'm in IT Security which basically means I work 2 hours a day, go to 1 meeting for daily stand up, and bullshit everything. No one actually does any work or knows what they're doing. I used to work really hard but I kinda capped my salary at 135,000$/year. I realized if I put on mousejiggle and caffiene and sign into Teams on my personal PC I always stay green. I get my work done, and my boss does the same thing. No one cares. Millenials getting into management was the best thing to ever happen. No one has to drive in, no one does bullshit busy work anymore.
Either way, I made a change and tried to become the chad I wanted to be in life. I play with my kids, take them outside every day weather permitting. Wife and I cook home cooked meals, we both head to the gym. Typically after they go to bed we read books or frick, occaisionally watch a movie, or do projects around the house. We bought a fixer upper for 220,000$ and right now its valued at half a million. We also own 80 acres in a rural part of my state so that takes a bit of time and maintenance as well. My goal is to raise outdoor kids in an inside world, and hunt, fish, and garden my family into living off the land as much as possible. Its impossible to be 100%, but goal is around 85%.
Either way, video games are a waste of time, especially the ones you don't play with others. I can understand doing them every so often like a board game with friends.
I personally play single player games with strong story components. You beat the game, then it’s over. It’s like reading a book: there’s a beginning middle and end. Super addictive online games with no definitive conclusion I find pointless time wasters.
Yeah after gardening, hunting, fishing, playing with the kids, cooking, cleaning, DIY project, whatever I did that day--I just don't have the brain power. Like I said
this is pretty normal for people my age in my area at least. Typically I like reading books more because I fall asleep after about a chapter and it helps me sleep maxx which helps my gainz
I tried this, but I've yet to find a single game with a story as good as a good film. Some games have stories that are better than a mediocre anime, but it never surpasses that. I've been playing since the 80s so I've experienced my share of these stories.
It’s a matter of taste of course but there are plenty of game stories that shouldn’t be overlooked, especially recently when most movies are dogshit
>especially recently when most movies are dogshit
This applies to all media these days, games included. It's fine that you like video games stories and all, but I personally have never seen one beat out a good movie.
Couldn't you just go on youtube and type in "x video game story only" and watch it?
Yeah but the interactivity is part of the experience.
Ideally the interactive aspect will add to the experience in ways linear media cannot. Unfortunately a lot of videogames defect to using smoke and mirrors to merely make the player feel as if their choices matter when they don't which supports what you're saying, but for a good videogame that really shouldn't be the case.
If you're actually asking that and are a nonfiction reader, try the book "Hamlet on the Holodeck". It explains the value of interactive media far better than I can.
I actually make around 1,000,000 a year and work as a professional actor. It could be more but I hardly do any work since most of the time I'm not actually at a shoot. My big break was talking to an exec I randomly met in an elevator when I overheard him saying he played the latest triple A release which I also played. Now I own multiple beach front properties and have a harem of women with around 15 or so kids total- all of them go to expensive private schools and love their papa.
Reading your thing... Like major OOF. Should have played videogames. Just yesterday I met a manager for a bigger company while playing an online shooter, we were both like the highest rank and us fragging together created a bond in between us. He's now offering me to work with his company which will earn me something like 5M a year, but I dunno I'm not so poor I need that kind of thing. I might actually have to work like an average of 4 days a month instead of my current 3 days a month, but he is offering an exclusive entrance pass to Epistien Island's spiritual successor so there's that.
Incredibly based and what I'm working towards.
I've got the IT security job, not quite as much money, and I'm still in the city. I've got a kid and a wife and we'll get out to the country in some time. Thanks for the inspiration anon.
>thread about hobbies
>hey everyone look how much money I make and I do nothing at the job look at what I do in my job and lie to pretend to work and also I own tons of land and my house is worth so much and look what I do with my kids and nothing else about hobbies
>btw video games bad lol
It’s sad to see how empty you are that you need to blog about your life on Ganker because you desperately need validation about how well you’re doing with your ugly wife and children because you have no friends in your real life to do it for you
The other anon asked why I don't play video games and what I do for fun. I simply explained my life in a nutshell. I'm not empty at all. I'm just trying to paint a picture of why something like learning to play a guitar at 34 or spending 3 hours on MarioKart is a massive waste of time for me. I could care less what you people think of me. From what I've gathered, most people here are autistic fatsos living with their mom in their 30s. I'm just here to try to help you guys while I'm bored in this meeting.
No one asked you anything. You clearly need to come to Ganker to brag about your life when you start going on and on about your salary and home value and all that shit in completely unrelated threads. Keep pretending like your life isn’t empty though. Sorry your work from home life has clearly made you not have any friends outside of your wife and kids
I wasn't bragging. I don't make that much money. In fact I'm embarrassed I make so little. I'm the poorest one out of my friends. As far as the home, I was encouraging other anons to get into Ganker as a hobby and pouring some sweat equity into their home
Unless they're european, in which case they're probably butthurt since they'll never own a home unless they inherit it and have to live in a 'flat' their entire lives.
>haha see I make so little money and actually all my “friends” are so rich and I’m so embarrassed by how little money I make
Yeah your LARP is old
Whatever you say buckaroo. I'm just going to keep trying to self improve. I hope you have a really good day and enjoy your hobbies.
Lifting is kind of a waste of time from what you described
>"Stuff I dont know how to do or patience to learn is a waste of time"
Yeah buddy keep coping
In practical terms, yes. Humanity has abundance of specialists in virtually every field willing to lend their services for affordable price. It's much better to spend money on skilled labor than to waste time learning it yourself, then waste time doing it yourself, so you can save up and spend money on goyslop and goytertainment
They're all a waste of time but other than survival and procreation that's pretty much all there is to life. You could argue that reading classical literature improves your intellectual ability (if only superficially) that can potentially benefit you. Lifting has obvious benefits to an extent.
hobby's are important brother find what you love and become obsessed with it
>instruments
>listening to music
>reading fiction
This is how I know you're a DYEL. Physical culture shows you the value of these things. It does not diminish them.
at least fiction doesn't claim to be true. be careful of what "non-fiction" you trust to enter your brain. fiction or non-fiction is quite useful for philosophy, which is not a waste as it improves your ability to form arguments, ethics and convictions
>playing instruments
people who become fluent with a musical instrument in their youth are just cognitively better, get fricked
>gaming
can be productive and beneficial, and doesn't imply just video gaming. professional gambler here laughing at your pathetic worldview. but maybe self-deprivation is the only way you can function. best wishes
You guys are really trying to be gains goblins for my musical progress. I started taking piano lessons 2 months ago and made a ton of progress but frickers in this thread are telling me it’s a waste of time.
Hey I started three months ago! Keep at it bro, you're getting mental gains.
Oh yeah? Well I started four months ago. I mog you.
Damn, I kneel
A time will come be it at a social gathering of some kind or whatever reason, where there will be a piano present, and you will be able to impress at that time. Keep it up anon
>hobbies
>not career
kys
Drinking, smoking, and porn aren’t hobbies lol. Listening to music makes you cultured and more interesting, along with learning an instrument; this is coming from a guy who only knows pop songs and gets laughed at when I don’t know the trendy artists and don’t get invited to venues (+social points). Also learning an instrument is great as you can pass it on to your kid.
I would also disagree on your carpentry statement as it is very expensive hobby, some tools are expensive and the price of lumber is way too high nowadays.
Shooting is alright, not really that interesting as anyone can do it.
A hobby that makes you interesting and helps with gains are usually sports related. I recommend snowboarding and surfing for social and physical gains, and basketball or football - basketball very easy to make friends through pick up. Also golf for later life as most men over 30 start golf who are rich and successful - good for networking.
instruments
This will get you laid you dip
LMAO at all the cucks who think they have to constantly push their own shit in.
Learn to appreciate your downtime and find something that makes you happy.
Nothing wrong with music, videogames, reading fiction etc.
Life isn't a race, if it was you wouldn't be winning it anyways being here. I'll be happy with where I and continue to grow in a balanced way.
Post hobbies.
I like painting minis. Its calming and lets me paint beautiful things with tiny details. Like frick, I'm so proud of my handprints on that vampire knight.
Its not my main hobby, mma, which has become my lifestyle and consumed me at this point, but it has a calming effect.
Idc if it doesnt make me money or hone a "useful skill".
Bro from real mf to a real mf, frick the money bs, if you got a job that brings in some capital, great you can if want to build your own business on the side while working your job but nothing absolutly nothing beats peace of mind, that thing you enjoy doing that just makes you smile like that, oh man cant nobody pay me money to feel that way about shit i dont like. Tldr youre doing everything right. Also those figures look absolutly amazing, i am into sewing and stiching stuff myself and i appreciate the little detaills, its the little things that bring the most joy
>your hobbies need to make money or serve some utilitarian purpose
what a bunch of soulless bugs
All hobbies are a waste of time.
They are meant to be a way to relax and forget about your problems.
I have been doing martial arts for years thinking it was usefull, I now wish I had spend all that time going out and enjoying life rather than sweat around with 20 year olds.
I don't consider lifting a hobby, like brushing your teeth it's something you do to be healthy and to give a good image
>listening to music and reading are bad hobbies
what the hell is wrong with people
first, delineate hobbies, habits, and addictions. i think that video games or board games as a hobby can be healthy, video games as a habit/addiction is unhealthy. drinking can be a hobby, and is probably not a good hobby, but is a terrible habit; same with smoking. weed tends to become a hobby with those who make it a habit. Ganker is a much a habit for all of us here, clearly. other social media is the same.
as a note, somehow music and books made the list of bad habits, but youtube/films didn't. my guess? you got filtered by rainbow 6 and instead just want to watch jack reacher and shooter over and over between new milsurp EDC videos.
Why is fit obsessed with making these hobby threads so much? Why are you all so obsessed with talking about your hobbies
People want validation, and if someone talks shit about their pastimes they have an existential crisis
My only hobbies are drinking, porn, weed, chan and marvel movies.
>playing instruments
>listening to music
>reading fiction
Every time one of you spergs complain about harmless pleasures in life I just KNOW you all are virgins and autistic fricks
>muh you have to earn money with ur hobbie
Get a job hippie
OP doesn't understand intrinsic rewards, just extrinsic carrots dangled in front of him to keep him continuously sacrificing his effort/time/joy to keep Mr. Shekelstein free to pursue his own 'pointless' hobbies.
Money is a means to an end, and I just use it to get me more stuff that is intrinsically rewarding. Yes it feels nice getting more, but that's just because all progress feels good. If you start classifying things with intrinsic enjoyment as a 'waste of time' your brain follows suit and you literally lose the ability to enjoy them at all. These bitter, resentful people reach retirement after years of striving and suffering and then succumb to boredom and existential despair after a few years as they don't know what to do with themselves.
Enjoying things is a skill, and it needs to be practiced continuously or be lost.
Any hobby that does not involve creation and/or does not have a direct impact on real life is a waste of time.
>shooting
Fun but you probably have no friends/ yall don't train together. Have fun getting rekt by a stack up if the slim chance of your shtf fantasy happens.
> carpentry
I can throw a rock and hit a dude with a "carpentry" hobby. You know what's more valuable & rare? Doing work that someone will actually pay off ie joinery, cabinetry, etc.
> not being into hobby programing, digital electronics, 3d design/ printing
OP probably believes that bs of if he enjoys a hobby he'll enjoy it as his livelihood. He probably hasn't worked in construction and met the type of people carpenters are.
> pic related its OP as a child listening to his uncle tell him how great carpentry is.
Is bringing me joy and pleasure not a good enough reason to pursue a hobby nowadays? You gays need to relax
NOO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE MONEY MONEY MONEY ALL THE TIME.
This is why I genuinely despise this board so much. These autistic morons can’t even discuss their hobbies (that everyone here picks up to desperately try to bring meaning to their lonely lives) with fighting and arguing and insulting everyone about them. And especially talking about money because the only thing that brings anyone on this board any self worth is money. Look at the regard above who just randomly started talking about his salary and workload for no reason
You should not be conversing with anyone from this shithole
Do you think maybe everyone just talks about their lives and gives each other shit in heartfelt harmless banter and you are maybe just really threatened or self conscious of your own life because you aren't as successful as you thought you would be by this point in your life?
Post a pic of your body anon, whats wrong? Whats not going well in life, I can try and help. Its pretty obvious you have some skeletons in the closet
>heartfelt harmless banter
lmao
You don’t get it anon, every thread on fit turning into endless insults, ridicule and slurs between posters is just harmless fun
This has been Ganker since its inception
t.oldgay
I referee multiple sports, two of which I didn’t know jack shit about before becoming a referee for them. It is generally fun, keeps me active, and is mentally stimulating
Freaking out about hobbies is just the most tiny dick energy thing I can think off
Just do anything you like, but in moderation.
Appeal to moderation is a fallacy. Moderation is an illusion and slippery slope to addiction.
Only if you're a impressionable midwit or worse
A true man controls his passions
He’s just a projecting addict of some kind who thinks everyone is like hime
>gaming
good with friends, social activity
>porn
not a hobby
>playing music
good
>listening to music
good
>reading fiction
good
>drinking/smoking
good with friends, social activity
Next you'll be telling us shitposting on Ganker isn't a hobby.
I like to read horror stories and pretty much any fiction. Read non-fiction occasionally too. Listen to metal albums when I'm training. Listen to country/folk and other music in my car. Ride my bike run in local park. Like to lift of course. In summer and autumn i like to fish for pike and gather mushrooms and berries in forests.
Op is a homosexual btw.
I am very jealous of everyone ITT. I wish I had the interest and motivation to get hobbies. All the things I see in here seem good but I just say what’s the point. I have no initiative to put in the work required to do hobbies. All I do is lie around and rot. My only hobby now at 30 is being miserable and researching suicide methods.
I felt this way until I got a better job with coworkers who I actually enjoy being around. Now I want to get good at stuff so I can mog them and they'll think I'm cool.
I act in community theatre
So serious question: is learning Guitar a good hobby? I’ve always wanted to learn and instrument, even if I’ll probably never play in a band.
If you think you’ll enjoy it then go for it. You can get rock smith on Xbox PlayStation ir pc and play a game like guitar hero with your real guitar
best to play a niche instrument like the accordian or a harmonica or maybe a cwrth. This way if someone needs you for their song there is less competition.
Learn the keyboard or synth, more useful these days for production etc as well.
I would say learn piano for the keyboard stuff yeah. I always hear about people regretting they never learned piano.
Dude I came back to piano after 17 years because I didn’t appreciate being forced to learn as a kid and I’m having a great time.
I don't have a piano. Can i learn/do the same shit with an old keyboard?
Yep. Cheap old keyboards won’t be as good sounding of course but it’s an ok place to start practicing.
Yeah. The feel will be off if your trying to learn piano. Synth style keyboards are more similiar to organs unless its specifically piano action.
Yes it's very fun and has helped with my mental health immensely.
Listening to an album and learning songs from it is a super fun time and writing helps me internalize things better.
No hobby is a waste of time because a hobby is something you do for pleasure in your spare time by definition.
>forced to take piano lessons as a kid
>barely ever practiced
>not good whatsoever
>quit and haven’t touched a piano in 15 years since
Pathetic
>Which “hobbies” are a waste of time
Watching Andrew tate. You should stop, now.
Not liking music as en entire concept means your brain is broken. Do you dislike all movies, books, etc as well? Seems you're basically entirely analytic brain with zero creative side. So probably a really boring person.
>Porn is not a hobby
Post balls.
yes but this thread is about worthless hobbies not unfit ones. not everbody base their lifes around hardstyles edits
In my limited experience, people like the guy you replied to who claim they don’t like music are lying. They probably hate modern pop music but if you’re a mentally healthy human with working ears there is probably some kind of music you enjoy
I’m 30 and have never really been into music. The only “music” I sort of like is rap instrumentals because of the heavy bass. I don’t go out of my way to listen to music. In fact I get pretty annoyed by most of it.
Im just a worthless autist who hates everything and every one most of all myself.
>reading fiction
lol you moron this is one with a well-developed empirical literature supporting its benefits
>reading fiction
what about movies?
Movies are ok because I like movies. I don’t like reading so reading is bad.
I’m very intelligent
>posting on Ganker
fiction
American fingers wrote this.
I don't get why they're like this. I really don't.
Because fantasy is for BABIES
IM A MAN AND I DEMAND TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY
Dull tryhard. Hemingway (no, not Blaha) would laugh at you.
>gaming
true
>porn
not a hobby kys coombrain
>playing instruments
literally the dumbest shit on this site rn
>listening to music
how does this waste your time?
>reading fiction
moron again
>drinking/smoking
false but not worth the long term consequences and hangovers
Wait, instruments are the dumbest shit on this site rn?
no. saying learning to play is pointless is
Tbh there’s very few hobbies that will get you nowhere so long as it’s mindfully done. Take watching fiction tv shows, if it’s a famous enough show u can talk about it with others, understand their references, something to bond over. If your watching 30 year old trash isekai than that probably isn’t a good use of time though.
>you have to prioritize what you find entertaining based on what other people are doing
This is some of the softest shit I have ever heard
There is no meaning in life but the enjoyment we get out of it. Hobbies are meant to be something you enjoy in your free time. There is nothing wrong with any of them.
>What "hobbies" will hurt my gains?
Using hobbies as an excuse as to why you have no gains is the only thing thats going to "hurt" you
Some hobbies are superior to others. That's the bottom fricking line. And id you aren't striving for excellence in your hobbies, then you are neither enjoying them fully, or cultivating enough value that you can one day monetize it.
>fit is incapable of looking at any hobbies outside the scope of if you can make money off of it
This place is truly an incredible shit hole. Now I see why you all hate israelites so much, it’s just insane projection
>AAHH ALL OF Ganker IS ONE PERSON AND SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN MEN I HATES IIIITTTTTT *cries*
Do you know what an open forum is?
What the frick are you babbling about
According to your mentality 99% of hobbies are a waste of time, what is a good hobby to you, being a landlord?
But if I'd have to list shitty hobbies:
>collecting anything, especially capeshit stuff
The most consumer kind of hobby. The more money you spend, the better you are at it, there's no skill to gain, the whole idea of it is giving money to the israelites for you to have expensive (and usually really overpriced) things on your shelves.
>Horses and horse riding
Expensive as frick, dangerous, horses are stupid and can get spooked by any random thing so there's a lot of outside factors that decide if you'll end up in a wheelchair or not, if you want to go pro then you basically need to starve yourself everyday.
>MMOs
Most of them are pay to win, all you do is grind for hours and hours on end just to flex on others that your sword has a higher dps number than somebody else's.
>reading fiction.
Absolutely moronic and KYS. There is plenty of fiction that teaches you about life, how to be a man, how to act, the importance of courage, camaraderie, how to think about death, etc. A lot of the greatest pieces of literature are not essays.
>Iliad
>Consolation of Philosophy
>Divine Comedy
>The Death of Ivan Ilyich
>Macbeth
>Othello
Actually KYS homosexual, if you accept "fiction" as being fake and think that because it has not happened it has nothing to offer then you're a homosexual Black person.
Those are historically significant. Not OP but I usually assume that when people talk about "fiction" they aren't referring to classics and antiquity but modern schlock like stephen king or tom clancy.
that Black person should define his terms then. But so should I. tfw Black person just like OP
5/6 of those aren't hobbies
>playing instruments
You're moronic, b***hes get wet when they see me play piano. I've also made money off it teaching other people how to play.
I’ve made friends talking about music and playing piano with people, and I’m not even very good.
fiction
fiction can be edifying if the underlying message is sufficiently meaningful
read Crime and Punishment (and stuff like that)
>zog
The zog food they'll give you will definitely frick your gains up if you're not excessively selective. They have to keep it cheap, so it'll be beef jerky steaks and whatnot.
I can guarantee that the hobbiless NPC normies are much happier than all of you “hobbymaxxers”
You forgot
>posting on Ganker
god this thread is so pointless and gay. Ganker really fricking sucks now.
I really have to stop posting here
>reading fiction
Even tho this is a moronic troll post, there are actually studies that suggest that people actually have more empathy when they read fictionally stories compared to real ones.
>People are nicer if they read about imaginary people in fictional words than actual people in the real world
Basically explains liberalism in a nutshell. If liberals actually knew real poor people they wouldn't be so keen on handing out checks
>people actually have more empathy when they read fictionally stories compared to real ones.
Why yes, and empathy is the CORRECT opinion!
>Ganker absolutely filled with bitter losers who can't comprehend just having fun sometimes
Lol
Normal people just do things they enjoy and also spend time with their friends. It’s not supposed to be this miserable struggle of unhappy people craving validation of their hobbies I’m seeing in this thread. I can’t believe people need to be told that learning a fricking instrument or READING is ok as a hobby.
>Normal people just do things they enjoy and also spend time with their friends.
Normal people just get drunk with a group of people they are acquainted with and claim these people are their friends and not just an excuse to use alcohol to forget their problems.
>REEEEE I HAVE NO ONE TO DRINK WITH SO ALL ALCOHOL USERS ARE ALCOHOLICS WHO I AN BETTER THAN
alcohol is haram
Im not a fan of booze but browsing /adv theres enough incels that claim they dont drink or do drugs. Im starting to think its related.
The issue is a lot of lonely guys have this weird perception that they are missing out on what they think male friendships should be. They seem to think having friends is some hollywood comedy flick borderline homosexual bromance type thing or an anime big brother friend relationship.
They are emotional leeches, believe me I've tried to befriend these types of guys before and they always end up being fricking weirdos who get passive aggressive and start hating you when you shut down their "deep" conversations about how they are still butthurt about being an outcast in high school or whatever.
>fricking weirdos who get passive aggressive and start hating you when you shut down their "deep" conversations about how they are still butthurt about being an outcast in high school or whatever.
>I can’t believe people need to be told that learning a fricking instrument or READING is ok as a hobby.
Everyone who needs to talk about their hobby, especially not to people engaged in their hobby is seeking validation for their hobby.
Well anon i approve of your hobby, whatever it is. You have been validated.
twohundredfifteenth post is best post
playing an instrument and being into music in general is god-tier
>cheap as frick to get into (but scales up well with income if you need to fill a void through wanton consooming)
>whether you're a sperg or a social butterfly, it's a great conduit for socializing (but being an schizoid shut-in is fine too)
>let's you connect with your feelings and express yourself on an axis separate from verbal language
>if you're rabbinically-inclined you can have lots of fun trading gear shalom
>or you can learn to fix shit and be hands-on if that's your roll
>you're not bound by externalities, you can partake in it pretty much anywhere and at any time. frick, if you're autistic enough you can use audiation or solfege to compose in your head no instruments required.
and most important of all
>bitches love it
>playing instruments
>waste of time
Someone clearly hasn't read their Plato. Tsk tsk you silly billy
I'm learning Gwyn's theme on classic guitar, it's so beautiful
Imagine being so autistic learning stuff like this feels useless because it doesn't produce israeli green pieces of paper
I’m working on the piano version myself, that’s awesome
moron gay
I have played music since childhood and it's never got in the way of anything. It was getting me pussy before lifting was also.
Liberal Black folk/Euros in here afraid of shooting. It is your job as a free American male to own and be proficient with modern weaponry.
Everyone on Ganker saying "Black person" in every thread, meanwhile they are renting in some shithole Black person city so they be victims of the BLM murders when the Great Depression 2.0 finally drops.
Be fit, be good at shooting, and be self-reliant.
What's the most physically demanding gun to operate? I'm talking forearm, shoulder, back gains. I want something that less strong men would literally injure themselves using.
50 cal?
>I don't really like music. Like its okay, but I usually listen to podcasts or talk radio or drive in silence. I don't exactly put it on when I'm cooking or something. I like it like to pull out emotions. I don't mind it in a movie
That being said most instruments are not Ganker activities. Most of us were playing sports while you were a band geek. I don't care if you play instruments, but there are definitely more fit hobbies. I never really got it tbh, IDK, I guess I just don't like music enough to go and try and play a guitar. I've just always used that free time to make money or workout or play sports
COPE YOU BUGMAN.
>Listening to music
>reading fiction
>He's never heard tales of heroism and legend sung to him by fellows around the bonfire
Hahah what a fricking homosexual
>shitposting
>making threads about hobbies
>going on 4chins
those won't only get you nowhere and are a waste of time but will actually make things worse than if you just hadn't don't anything to begin with
instruments
Learning instruments improves your motor skills, memory, and is a great social activity for you to hang out with other musicians and make music together.
>It's a lot of fun to do sparingly.
If you do it sparingly it's not a hobby.
Thank you for wasting your time posting this useless comment