Which Primarchs would you say that Erda did a favor by yeeting them into the warp instead of leaving them to be raised by the Emperor?

Which Primarchs would you say that Erda did a favor by yeeting them into the warp instead of leaving them to be raised by the Emperor?
I'd say an obvious one is Roboutte Guilliman, Vulkan, and Sanguinious. But who else if any?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think Fulgrim and Magnus were both better off being raised by their adoptive parents than the Emeperor.
    >b-b-b-but their LE HERETIKS
    Fulgrim only became a psycho cus of the sword.
    Magnus was a good person until pushed to the very brink due to both Horus manipulation, and Leman Russ bullying.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Perutrabo might have actually turned out worse if he was raised by the Emperor, all things considered. At least Olympia appreciated him, for a time anyway.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Emperor would have beaten his son into heing less of a colossal homosexual. Perturabo needed less praise, not more. He’s like a kid whose called smart as a child and gets put into gifted and talented classes but becomes a lazy shithead who blames everyone else for his problems.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >posts proof that Perturabo would have wound up worse under the Emperor

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Erda
    >HH books in general

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unproductive comment
      DIE!

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Erda
    Who?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      A perptual Psyker and the mother of the Primarchs.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        No.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Die.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, sorry.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you SEEN what happens when the Emperor raises a Primarch? The Angel was even more insane then the others, and it didn't even get corrupted by Chaos.
    Do you really think that an Emperor who fumbled Angron as much as he did for absolutely no reason, the psychotic tyrant who saw everyone else as tools and did not have a gram of self awareness in his body, was qualified for raising them?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      So yeah I guess Erda was right?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Have you SEEN what happens when the Emperor raises a Primarch?
      He raised Alpharius and it actually turned out pretty fricking well all things considered.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >traitor primarch that fricks off and buys into what some xenos said and working to undermine the emperor
        >good
        Yeah he did a fantastic job.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he hasn't read Head of the Hydra

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            What's it gonna do? Hint more about how ambiguous their loyalty is? The simple fact of the matter is that no matter how much hinting, no matter how much Alpharius thinks he's doing what the emperor wants, all he's doing is serving chaos and fricking the Imperium. So it doesn't matter how "loyalist" he identifies as when he's functionally as antagonistic as any of the other chaos or xenos forces. Just going "hahaha i know i fricked you over, but le maybe im le on le your side" doesn't mean you are doing anything good.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Alpharius remained loyal. Omegon turned traitor.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >alpharius is loyal
                >yeah i know hes currently at war with the imperium and functionally no different than any of the other traitors but hes loyalist
                Did you miss where I said all the larping in the world won't change what he's actually doing? He's actively fricking over the emperor's vision even if he (Alpharius) believes himself to be loyal. But he's clearly not. He's just as fooled into going against the Emperor's interests as Magnus or any of the traitors were. He can believe he's loyal all he wants, that won't change what he's doing which is fricking over the imperium because some aliens said if you wipe out mankind chaos dies and he thinks the emperor would want it that way.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, he's opening a 5th Column in the ranks of Chaos when they least expect it.

                Also it's likely Alpharius isn't actively guiding what's going on now. We'll find out more in the HH but the last orders given to Pech were to activate the Alpha Legion seeded in Terra to side with the Emperor and against Horus at all costs.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        let's be fair, alpharius was raised by uncle malcador

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wish people talk more about the Angel

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        There isn't much to say about it. Unless you want lots of headcanon and theorycrafting.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The concept of Erda was dumb.
    Perpetuals also.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're dumb.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Erda or someone like her was sadly necessary. The simple fact of the matter is that the original myth of the primarchs getting scattered by chaos to frick with the Emperor was fine as a 1-line description in a very vague and zoomed out probably-not-even-true historical retelling that 40k used to operate one, but absolutely does no work with the zoomed in perspective and 'real true history' that the HH books are doing. The reality is that Chaos COULDN'T DO THAT. If they could just pluck whatever shit they wanted out of the material realm and shoot it across the galaxy without an open warp rift or demon ritual, they would be doing that kind of shit all the time. And if Chaos was the ones who scattered the primarchs, they probably would have dumped more of them into outright hostile places like dumping them into black holes and shit.
      A person, not the chaos gods, needed to be responsible for scattering the primarchs. It was the only way anything made sense.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    We can rule out the traitors. They all either died and/or got eternal damnation. Really the only one I think was genuinely better off for it was russ, and maybe ferus. Guilleman would have been no worse on Terra.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Primarchs were a mistake.
    Both in-and outside of the universe.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ferrus might not have had any preference in either direction, but he never seemed to really mind Medusa's shittiness or wish he'd grown up elsewhere. Frankly he seemed to enjoy growing up on such a shitty world.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >erda
    >perpetual so disliked by the fanbase she was written via death
    >performed by erebus of all people

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Erda never died moron-kun

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Erda is going to come back as a centerpiece sculpt for 11th, or for HH

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