Rillaboom is literally the worst of the trio just for this i don't give a frick what butthurt contrarians say https://youtu.be/dJ5oaIxI-aE?si=y5SC4aVvw40spD7G&t=83
>Literally runs away with the drum in had doesn't even use it for combat
What a failure of a design
[...] >Rillaboom is inoffensive
>With the drum is moronic >But without it he's Just a shitty recolored animal
Man it's garbage either way i can't see any good side
It still takes inspo from multiple primates and looks fantastical enough to not be a cartoon animal. I don't really care for it but it just doesn't do anything crazy, outlandish or new enough to warrant hate. Maybe hating it in comp is justifyable but being autistic about rillaboom is like hating the color white.
It really is. It's just a gorilla with goofy leaf hair. If you don't like the drum, I get it. But the other two gen 8 starters are just moronic human fursuit looking trash. I hate all three of them are bipeds, but again, it makes sense for a gorilla.
Rillaboom is literately the worst of these 6, what are you talking about?
It might be literately the worst starter design period if Incineroar didnt exist.
hard sell. galar's are just shitty, but with regards to, paldea game freak's habit of favoring one while intentionally sabotaging the other two is so apparent it's genuinely upsetting this time. you think it can't get worse, but if there's one thing game freak is adept at, it's defying expectations
>game freak's habit of favoring one while intentionally sabotaging the other two is so apparent it's genuinely upsetting this time
Yet it was fine when they did it with greninja, right?
This is karma anon. you got shilled at, now you gotta sit and watch others get shilled at, just as we had to sit and watch you get the love.
Personally, I hated when they did it with Greninja and I hate it even more now with Meowscarada. At least with Greninja they were aiming mostly at the otaku kiddos who looked up to Naruto, not to furrywaifu frickers.
It’s hard to say. Out of all 6 mons, Skeledirge is easily the best IMO. But Quaquaval and Meowscarada are painfully bad, maybe even slightly worse than Inteleon and Rillaboom.
Good point, that's probably why I like Skeledirge.
Finally a new starter that doesn't look like a man in a fursuit. Rillaboom can be sort of excused for being an ape, but still.
Making two overly humanoid starters in the gen that already has an ape starter was peak idiocy.
quadruped meme
people tricked themselves into liking skeledirge just because it walks on all fours
(even though in most promotional material, it stands up...)
Did some deranged cat or duck fan make this pic as some kind of weird cope?
Yes, Skeledirge stands up to use its signature singing move, we know. It's just like how in real life if you want to be louder, you straighten your posture. It's an interesting aspect to its design but 99% of the time its walking on all fours.
Both trios are terrible, but Rillaboom would be decent without the drums, and Cinderace kind of grew on me despite its underdeveloped stubby hands.
Meowscarada is terrible because it's so blatantly furry+waifubait it's not even funny and Quaquaval's big butt and overly humanoid legs are embarrassing.
Skeledirge is somewhat alright, would change some things but it's probably the one I dislike the least in the past two Gens.
This is really hard. I don't think I can pick one, they're both a disgrace.
I think Inteleon would be somewhat alright if it wasn't standing perfectly on two legs in such a human-like way.
I know people use "it's a Basilisk Lizard" as a counter-argument, but even so, those lizards stand on four legs and only get bipedal for the brief time where they need to walk across a water surface ... And they rightfully do so while walking in a reptile-like way and not like a man.
I was hoping for Sobble's evolution line to be inspired at least partially to the Loch Ness Monster, but I wouldn't hate Inteleon if only its demeanour wasn't so strikingly humanoid.
I wish it at least had a more curved spine and its limbs were placed accordingly to a creature that *can* stand on two legs if needed but whose spine isn't fit for keeping that pose for too long.
Anatomy similar to Salazzle would've helped making it look less uncanny as a lizard/chameleon creature, imo.
Being less cool looking than the real-world version is a strange kind of curse to put on a Pokémon. Usually they are exaggerated versions with superpowers.
hate is a strong word but i've used both cinderace and rillaboom now and i can't say i really like either of them much. inteleon is kind of irredeemable as a design which makes me sad, it has some cool features but looks ridiculous, sobble didn't deserve that.
the gen 9 starters are all fine, i wish meowscarada had an actual tail, skeledirge was basically entirely different from the neck down, and quaquaval had tail feathers instead of just spawning the weird levitating water droplet things, but i don't really hate any of them i just wish they were better. it's not like of these are incineroar tier or anything.
Since both final stages have an entire irredeemable set, it's hard to say which one I hate more.
I think I'd have to determine which base starter set had the most potential, and had it stolen from them, at which point, Gen 9 has a bigger disparity from base to final. Mostly because Grookey was always doomed to be ugly, bringing the average from Gen 8 way down, but seeing what Fuecoco turned into hurts my soul
>Bad ass gorilla, chad soccer player and cool sniper
Vs >Gay magician, moronic dinosaur thing and gay duck
You're delusional if you think Paldea is better
>Treecko
A cute little rascal >Grovyle
is stil the same rascal but bigger it has cool three feathers on the arms and looks pretty agile I can imagine him running on the branches of trees in a forest >Sceptile
Drops the cool head leaf and has less leaf on the arms with a moronic pear-shaped like body this one looks like he's about to break the branch of the tree he's on, he doesn't look like an agile pokemon at all even though he should be
at least pokken sceptile looks more agile and sleek
are you a turbo autist who mentions the "sceptile is fat and would break a branch" thing at every possible opportunity? i refuse to believe there is more than one of you. it's big and strong enough to live on the forest floor anyways, it doesn't need to live in trees in the first place - and if it did it wouldn't break them because it's not even fat in the first place, its body shape DOES NOT CHANGE when it evolves.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>the "sceptile is fat and would break a branch" thing at every possible opportunity?
i've mentioned that only twice but it's funny to know that was enough to mind break sceptilegays >it's big and strong enough to live on the forest floor anyways, it doesn't need to live in trees in the first place
Who said about living? i said about agility
grovyle looks like could run on trees sorta like a stealthy ninja
sceptile doesn't look like he could do that with that fugly pear body and fails convey agility in its design
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm really glad you're not a Pokemon designer.
7 months ago
Anonymous
That's not an argument fatgay
7 months ago
Anonymous
nah it is and stop protecting
7 months ago
Anonymous
>fugly pear body
dude it has the exact same body are you on crack
7 months ago
Anonymous
>dude it has the exact same body
Are you blind? you must be
7 months ago
Anonymous
confirmed: this user smokes crack
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Sceptilegay accusing others of smoking weed
You love to see it
7 months ago
Anonymous
this frickin moron thinks crack and weed are the same thing, you're a riot dude
7 months ago
Anonymous
This fricking moron thinks sceptile is a good design you're on a riot dude
7 months ago
Anonymous
see the thing is, you did something stupid and hilarious after completely sperging out about something normal, while i am guilty of... liking a very cool pokémon? which is not nearly as funny.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Sceptile being a cool pokemon
Now trolling is against the rules anon
7 months ago
Anonymous
this frickin moron thinks crack and weed are the same thing, you're a riot dude
7 months ago
Anonymous
it is a good design
7 months ago
Anonymous
I honestly thought most Sceptile fans were just Grovyle fans that begrudgingly accept the final evolution.
Didnt know there was anyone who genuinely defends the design as a stand alone pokemon.
7 months ago
Anonymous
the only concievable reason i can imagine liking grovyle more is if you were a big fan of pokémon mystery dungeon, sceptile is literally just cooler grovyle
Galar without a doubt.
Meowscarada mogs Rillaboom and Skeledirge mogs Cinderace. Inteleon and Quaquaval are both some of the single worst designs in the franchise so they're tied for the most part
It's genuinely impressive how fricking terrible the past few gens of new starters are. It's like they're hand-crafted just to disgust me
If it makes you feel any better I think Meowscarada is an incredibly mediocre design that just fills the cookie cutter "we need to have a waifumon" starter slot that Game Freak has felt the need to do every generation since Gen VI, it still mogs Rillaboom by virtue of Rillaboom being one of the single worst designs in the series
top easily
Meowscarada is uninspired, Skeledirge is flawed but cool, and the duck only sucks in motion otherwise I love it's color scheme as well.
The top 3 are just shit.
>well you are blind all 3 of them look shit
Cope with the projection. >especially cindershit
It's the most tolerable out of them, I'd argue — besides, so is the cat at the bottom. The others... mostly disappointing, anyhow.
Can't believe /vp/ has become so shit that multiple people are actively disliking Sceptile now. It's so utterly bewildering to me I'm actually inclined to believe it's just one guy.
>Can't believe /vp/ has become so shit that multiple people are actively disliking Sceptile now. It's so utterly bewildering to me I'm actually inclined to believe it's just one guy.
Galar for me easily, because Cinderace looks goofy as frick and Inteleon is one of the worst pokemon of all time let alone starters
I don't understand why gamefreak feels the need to self sabotage by designing dogshit purposefully polarizing anthro starters like this, they shill the kanto starters like they're the pinnacle of pokemon design so why haven't they made more starters in that same vein? Why does everything need to be a furry jobmon now?
>Why does everything need to be a furry jobmon now?
There's an interview where Masuda or someone discusses this. I don't have it now but maybe I can dig it up later. Basically he says attributing specific personalities to starters makes them better mascots or something along those lines.
Okay, but look at how much they've shilled shit like Charizard, and Pikachu isn't a jobmon either, clearly you can just be an appealing monster and still be very very marketable
>Why does everything need to be a furry jobmon now?
Because recolored and cartoon animals sucks
>baiting this hard
I'll take a thousand recolored animals over that skinnyfat homosexual galar lizard any day even if that was what the old starters were (they aren't)
>I'll take a thousand recolored animals
Then why the frick are you a fan of a game called pocket MONSTERS? you wanted plain lame animals? go to the zoo schizoid
Black person look me in the eyes and tell me that the galar starters are more monstrous than the original kanto starters, or the hoenn or sinnoh starters for that matter, you can't in good faith cause that shit was bait and you're still begging for replies
i think you have a weird and twisted definition of "Monster"
just because dracula is different from a werewolf doesn't mean it's not a monster they're both monsters
7 months ago
Anonymous
Giga cope, and in any case I accept your concession that the old starters were monsters and not just recolored animals, so I hold that those starters were way better than shit like Cinderace, Inteleon, or Quaquaval have any hope being, this isn't a controversial statement unless you're a shitposter
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Giga cope
No arguments? oh well >the old starters were monsters and not just recolored animals
only blaziken, swampert, charizard, venusaur,feraligatr and blastoise are monsters the other are just themed animals
7 months ago
Anonymous
What analogue to typhlosion exists in the real world? And yeah I don't need to argue over obvious bait, you're telling me Typhlosion and Sceptile aren't monsters, but Cinderace (just a soccer themed anthro rabbit) and Rillaboom (literally just a gorilla that plays drums) are? Lol, lmao
7 months ago
Anonymous
>What analogue to typhlosion exists in the real world?
it's a badger anon even a 12 years old knows that >Typhlosion and Sceptile aren't monsters
Dinosaurs and badgers aren't monsters >but Cinderace (just a soccer themed anthro rabbit)
So not a plain recolored animal? >Rillaboom
i'll give you that rillaboom is a lame recolored animal
7 months ago
Anonymous
I forgot that badgers notoriously walk on two legs and have fire manes, it's obviously based on a badger but it's far more of a monster than a literal mascot, is the trix rabbit a monster to you? Because that's all cinderace is except it also plays soccer
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Typhlosion walks on two legs
And you just played yourself you clearly don't know what you're talking about https://youtu.be/Ke4ERHx3Jrw?si=stqCBGMs19O1ZtIC&t=464
(though both occasionally stand up)
7 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't address anything else I said
Yeah this is worthless I'll stop feeding you now, shill your gay furry starters all you want they still suck
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Gets proven wrong >G-Guess i'll stop talking to you
Good
7 months ago
Anonymous
What is your actual argument, what makes Cinderace, Inteleon, and Quaquaval superior to Typhlosion? Does being humanoid vs animalistic inherently make them better? They objectively look worse
Noth only have 1 good and manhood member, though gen 8's Cinderace is somewhat, barely torelable, inteleon is borripilus but theres no proper femshit member nor shitteleon is as effeminate as quaqquaraqqua
Also, gen 8's lines are prefty much perfect apart from cinderace and tardteleon, whereas gen 9's cat is already repetitive, the duck is good only in the first stage.
Also, while Skeledirge is one of the best starters, it's almost perfect and it's really good and better than Rillaboom, Gigamax Inteleon and Gigacnderace pretty much redeem even their designs. Gigarilaboom isntead is possibly worse
So, unless Tera forms coming that will be so amazing for each, gen 8's wins by a landslide
Galar has Harambees, Ronaldo Rabbit and Gex.
Paldea has 87.5% Male, Cocodile and Down and Party Duck.
Both are shit but like british music and spies so Galar starters win for me.
Impossible when decidueye exists - a design so fricking garbage, Game Freak went and completely re-designed it 4 years later as it didn't sell to ANYONE, let alone moron kids.
Cinderace at least sells to those same moron kids. So what if you don't like it - unless you're only turning 10 now, you're irrelevant.
Yeah. Got a leaky roof, but a top-notch builder on speed-dial, I need to pay for an oil tank lock, so can mention it to him then.
But that's beside the point. Decidueye's the youngest starter to get a re-tool to make it popular with people. When the re-tool's only been handed out to shit people either ignored due to sheer mass of numbers (my mom's fire horse/fox) or actively shunned in favour of something more popular (Raichu).
>When the re-tool's only been handed out to shit people either ignored
Are you going to just ignore that Charizard is the most 're-tooled' pokemon ever?
They retool pokemon because someone at gamefreak wants to retool them. It doesn't mean no one likes them, it just means someone at gamefreak wants to play around with the design.
Not according to key market, which is all that matters. kids not liking a native in-region 'mon, fair enough> Kids not liking a starter, despite liking the archetype a Gen prior? Shit, re-tool it, see if we can salvage it. Expect masculine Quaqeval next Legends starter.
Galar. Despite Cinderace being pure sexoo the other two ugly shits ruin the overall appeal of the starter trio.
With Paldea at least Meowscarada and Skeledirge look cool enough to offset the homosexual duck's ugliness.
Paldea are acceptable bad. Waifu bait cat & Croc are fine, gayduck is in offensive at worst
Galar are all atrocious to mankind, Inceleon sucks , CInderace looks like a mid evo & Rillaboom had a drum and tacked-on music motive. Need I say more?
>wahh im a homosexual millennial i miss gen 1 >wait an animal design with two main colours? THIS IS UNINSPIRED
So what's the issue, uninspired or overdesigned pokemon?
They would be good, if only they weren't doing human activities. Rillaboom without the drum, Cinderace without being obsessed with football, and Inteleon without doing gay spy poses would be upgrades to their design.
Paldean starters are a little less aggressive in that regard, but only a little bit
Galar is easily the worst, yet Arceus I would say is actually top-tier in it's designs. All of the pokemon there is a good mix of cool and cute at the same time.
There was once a time we could stand together as brothers and agree that Gen 8 starters all sucked ass....
it was unanimous across millions of people, across continents
Meow and Dirge are passable and Quaquaval "just" bad.
The Galar trio are all absolute fricking garbage, with Inteleon having the honor of being bottom 3 starters of all time.
The Gen 9 starters are stupid but at least there was a lot of effort put into them. You can tell that they really tried to make the concepts work, even if they failed. The Gen 8 starters are just dumb and lazy.
However, they are all pretty good during their 2nd stage EXCEPT for the bird, so it's the only one that can't be salvaged. Make of that what you will.
>Galar
Rillaboom is alright but could let go of the drum. It's a gorilla, it could just use its torso.
Cinderace is boring. I wish its design leaned more on its gmax form.
Inteleon is way too bad on all front. Delete it
All three of them are monotype, it's lame.
>Paldea
Meowscarada is a bit boring.
Skeledirge is kind of mess. I don't think that its design translates well the singing part or even its ghost type.
Quaquaval handles its concept well. I like it for this. Real bird legs instead of pants would have been much better.
Galar gets my vote, it was a terrible batch, if not the worst.
Galar. There isn't a single good design there
Rillaboom, while not good, is pretty inoffensive at worst. There is no way you really think that generic furbait but green and gay duck are superior.
Rillaboom is literally the worst of the trio just for this i don't give a frick what butthurt contrarians say https://youtu.be/dJ5oaIxI-aE?si=y5SC4aVvw40spD7G&t=83
>Literally runs away with the drum in had doesn't even use it for combat
What a failure of a design
It still takes inspo from multiple primates and looks fantastical enough to not be a cartoon animal. I don't really care for it but it just doesn't do anything crazy, outlandish or new enough to warrant hate. Maybe hating it in comp is justifyable but being autistic about rillaboom is like hating the color white.
The color white sucks orange and purple are way better
White is not a color
White is not right
It's just kinda there, but I hate the dumb log drum. The rabbit and lizard look distinctly terrible to me, even worse than the duck. Skeledirge a cute
>Rillaboom is inoffensive
It really is. It's just a gorilla with goofy leaf hair. If you don't like the drum, I get it. But the other two gen 8 starters are just moronic human fursuit looking trash. I hate all three of them are bipeds, but again, it makes sense for a gorilla.
>With the drum is moronic
>But without it he's Just a shitty recolored animal
Man it's garbage either way i can't see any good side
Rillaboom is literately the worst of these 6, what are you talking about?
It might be literately the worst starter design period if Incineroar didnt exist.
>is pretty inoffensive
>more uglier than the the singing croc and gay spy
They're not better than Rilaboom but they're better than their counterparts enough for Galar to be the worst
There’s no good design here
galar is by far the least interesting and least varied starter trio ever
paldea is just regular bad
I only like Cinderace so, Paldea
thats because you have shit taste Cinderace is the worst starter design of all time
Same I like the Inazuma Eleven rabbit
thats because you have shit taste
the fight is really between gay lizard and gay duck
>Fight
No they should just make out instead
The duck is the only bad design. Overall, I like Galar more, but Meowscarada is great.
hard sell. galar's are just shitty, but with regards to, paldea game freak's habit of favoring one while intentionally sabotaging the other two is so apparent it's genuinely upsetting this time. you think it can't get worse, but if there's one thing game freak is adept at, it's defying expectations
>game freak's habit of favoring one while intentionally sabotaging the other two is so apparent it's genuinely upsetting this time
Yet it was fine when they did it with greninja, right?
This is karma anon. you got shilled at, now you gotta sit and watch others get shilled at, just as we had to sit and watch you get the love.
They could at least choose the one that's not a complete abomination to shill
Fricking disgusting
I change my mind, Paldea
Don't know what you're on about, that looks great
Personally, I hated when they did it with Greninja and I hate it even more now with Meowscarada. At least with Greninja they were aiming mostly at the otaku kiddos who looked up to Naruto, not to furrywaifu frickers.
greninja is utterly irrelevant to the discussion at hand. your personal problems with it mean less than nothing to me.
gen 8 had the worst starter trio in the series
Paldea's starters are fricking trash, I at least had fun using Galar's starters (Cinderace and Rillaboom).
thats because you got shit taste
Same, Cinderace and Rillaboom are cool with me, everyone else can frick clean off, Paldea
nah cinderace is the worst design there
Cinderace has a boring and uninspired design
gen 5
/Thread
>thread explicitly not about gen 5
>gen 5 hate out of nowhere
?
yep, shartnovabominations will always be the worst
Hisui
Skeledirge >> Inteleon > Cinderace >> Rillaboom > Quaquaval > Meowscarada
It’s hard to say. Out of all 6 mons, Skeledirge is easily the best IMO. But Quaquaval and Meowscarada are painfully bad, maybe even slightly worse than Inteleon and Rillaboom.
Paldea, Meowscarada is a fricking abomination
Skeledirge wins out. Galar's starters are too homogenous in terms of body type.
Good point, that's probably why I like Skeledirge.
Finally a new starter that doesn't look like a man in a fursuit. Rillaboom can be sort of excused for being an ape, but still.
Making two overly humanoid starters in the gen that already has an ape starter was peak idiocy.
>Finally a new starter that doesn't look like a man in a fursuit.
If you ignore all the times it looks like a man in a fursuit of course.
Behold, a man.
Paldea easily, up there as the worst with Gen 5 shitters
>Based around music
>Plain lame animal body type
>Competitive viability
So why one is well liked meanwhile the other is either hated or ignored?
quadruped meme
people tricked themselves into liking skeledirge just because it walks on all fours
(even though in most promotional material, it stands up...)
Did some deranged cat or duck fan make this pic as some kind of weird cope?
Yes, Skeledirge stands up to use its signature singing move, we know. It's just like how in real life if you want to be louder, you straighten your posture. It's an interesting aspect to its design but 99% of the time its walking on all fours.
Remove kongs
Both trios are terrible, but Rillaboom would be decent without the drums, and Cinderace kind of grew on me despite its underdeveloped stubby hands.
Meowscarada is terrible because it's so blatantly furry+waifubait it's not even funny and Quaquaval's big butt and overly humanoid legs are embarrassing.
Skeledirge is somewhat alright, would change some things but it's probably the one I dislike the least in the past two Gens.
This is really hard. I don't think I can pick one, they're both a disgrace.
What about Inteleon? I agree with the things you said about the other five.
I think Inteleon would be somewhat alright if it wasn't standing perfectly on two legs in such a human-like way.
I know people use "it's a Basilisk Lizard" as a counter-argument, but even so, those lizards stand on four legs and only get bipedal for the brief time where they need to walk across a water surface ... And they rightfully do so while walking in a reptile-like way and not like a man.
I was hoping for Sobble's evolution line to be inspired at least partially to the Loch Ness Monster, but I wouldn't hate Inteleon if only its demeanour wasn't so strikingly humanoid.
I wish it at least had a more curved spine and its limbs were placed accordingly to a creature that *can* stand on two legs if needed but whose spine isn't fit for keeping that pose for too long.
Anatomy similar to Salazzle would've helped making it look less uncanny as a lizard/chameleon creature, imo.
Being less cool looking than the real-world version is a strange kind of curse to put on a Pokémon. Usually they are exaggerated versions with superpowers.
one of those is just a musical animal
the other is like ten different concepts mixed into a big shit stew
hate is a strong word but i've used both cinderace and rillaboom now and i can't say i really like either of them much. inteleon is kind of irredeemable as a design which makes me sad, it has some cool features but looks ridiculous, sobble didn't deserve that.
the gen 9 starters are all fine, i wish meowscarada had an actual tail, skeledirge was basically entirely different from the neck down, and quaquaval had tail feathers instead of just spawning the weird levitating water droplet things, but i don't really hate any of them i just wish they were better. it's not like of these are incineroar tier or anything.
Rillaboom is inoffensive and I really like Skeledirge.
The other four are just so equally fricking awful it's hard to pic which set I hate more.
Since both final stages have an entire irredeemable set, it's hard to say which one I hate more.
I think I'd have to determine which base starter set had the most potential, and had it stolen from them, at which point, Gen 9 has a bigger disparity from base to final. Mostly because Grookey was always doomed to be ugly, bringing the average from Gen 8 way down, but seeing what Fuecoco turned into hurts my soul
Skeledirge is the best starter in years though?
Paldea
thats 2 gay strikes
Galar only has one
Paldea is like when you realize things can get 1000X worse
Gay Cat, Gay Duck >>>> Gay lizard
>Gay gay gay gay gay lizard gay duck gay cat gay gay
Gay just became the new meaningless buzzword huh?
Gay Duck
>new
you're gay
Thanks for proving his point
>Bad ass gorilla, chad soccer player and cool sniper
Vs
>Gay magician, moronic dinosaur thing and gay duck
You're delusional if you think Paldea is better
>crocodilles are dinosaurs
Boomer moment
Case in point
Was meant for
there is nothing chad about Cinderace it has a boring and uninspired design
>liking rillaboom
>liking inceleon
Top has bnuuy so I will tolerate Inceleon and Expand Drum
>hasn't been a good Water starter in over a DECADE
How do Watergays cope?
Honestly, better than firegays.
Hasn't had a good evolution since... Typlosion, really.
>Blaziken above infernape
Trash list
yes he is Blaziken is way cooler then infernape
I liked the Hisui trio but otherwise passable
>troony seal that high
>sceptile that low
Your entire list is beyond worthless.
Sceptile ruined the line.
nah it perfected it
Kys pmdcoomer
Look at this and tell me you aren't immediately disgusted by what Grovyle and Treeko turned into.
>Treecko
A cute little rascal
>Grovyle
is stil the same rascal but bigger it has cool three feathers on the arms and looks pretty agile I can imagine him running on the branches of trees in a forest
>Sceptile
Drops the cool head leaf and has less leaf on the arms with a moronic pear-shaped like body this one looks like he's about to break the branch of the tree he's on, he doesn't look like an agile pokemon at all even though he should be
at least pokken sceptile looks more agile and sleek
are you a turbo autist who mentions the "sceptile is fat and would break a branch" thing at every possible opportunity? i refuse to believe there is more than one of you. it's big and strong enough to live on the forest floor anyways, it doesn't need to live in trees in the first place - and if it did it wouldn't break them because it's not even fat in the first place, its body shape DOES NOT CHANGE when it evolves.
>the "sceptile is fat and would break a branch" thing at every possible opportunity?
i've mentioned that only twice but it's funny to know that was enough to mind break sceptilegays
>it's big and strong enough to live on the forest floor anyways, it doesn't need to live in trees in the first place
Who said about living? i said about agility
grovyle looks like could run on trees sorta like a stealthy ninja
sceptile doesn't look like he could do that with that fugly pear body and fails convey agility in its design
I'm really glad you're not a Pokemon designer.
That's not an argument fatgay
nah it is and stop protecting
>fugly pear body
dude it has the exact same body are you on crack
>dude it has the exact same body
Are you blind? you must be
confirmed: this user smokes crack
>Sceptilegay accusing others of smoking weed
You love to see it
this frickin moron thinks crack and weed are the same thing, you're a riot dude
This fricking moron thinks sceptile is a good design you're on a riot dude
see the thing is, you did something stupid and hilarious after completely sperging out about something normal, while i am guilty of... liking a very cool pokémon? which is not nearly as funny.
>Sceptile being a cool pokemon
Now trolling is against the rules anon
it is a good design
I honestly thought most Sceptile fans were just Grovyle fans that begrudgingly accept the final evolution.
Didnt know there was anyone who genuinely defends the design as a stand alone pokemon.
the only concievable reason i can imagine liking grovyle more is if you were a big fan of pokémon mystery dungeon, sceptile is literally just cooler grovyle
nah it is very badass
sceptile is just big treecko, grovyle has always been the odd one out
Fricking disgusting
Horrendous taste
Too much gayness in Paldea
>Croc hard carries its trio
>Quaquaval is fun to watch in battle
Galar easily, not a single decent one
Galar without a doubt.
Meowscarada mogs Rillaboom and Skeledirge mogs Cinderace. Inteleon and Quaquaval are both some of the single worst designs in the franchise so they're tied for the most part
It's genuinely impressive how fricking terrible the past few gens of new starters are. It's like they're hand-crafted just to disgust me
>Meowscarada mogs Rillaboom
You just want to frick cats, we get it.
If it makes you feel any better I think Meowscarada is an incredibly mediocre design that just fills the cookie cutter "we need to have a waifumon" starter slot that Game Freak has felt the need to do every generation since Gen VI, it still mogs Rillaboom by virtue of Rillaboom being one of the single worst designs in the series
But all the Galar starters have male jobs.
Why are they so similar?
>furbait greninja clones
>music theme is only apparant with an awkward prop
>gay designs
top easily
Meowscarada is uninspired, Skeledirge is flawed but cool, and the duck only sucks in motion otherwise I love it's color scheme as well.
The top 3 are just shit.
Meowscarada is my favorite 3 stage pokemon now, but she won't save the trio. All other 5 are a disgrace. I guess Rillaboom is okay
As a trio I hate the Paldea one more, but Skeledirge mogs all 5 others so there's that.
The bottom one: haven't really much to say in terms of negatives about the top trio.
i do the top is garbage
Don't remember asking: besides, I'm not seeing much wrong with them.
well you are blind all 3 of them look shit especially cindershit
>well you are blind all 3 of them look shit
Cope with the projection.
>especially cindershit
It's the most tolerable out of them, I'd argue — besides, so is the cat at the bottom. The others... mostly disappointing, anyhow.
Can't believe /vp/ has become so shit that multiple people are actively disliking Sceptile now. It's so utterly bewildering to me I'm actually inclined to believe it's just one guy.
>Can't believe /vp/ has become so shit that multiple people are actively disliking Sceptile now. It's so utterly bewildering to me I'm actually inclined to believe it's just one guy.
Sceptile is so shit that they even made an entire episode where he gets cucked
nah you're shit and a cuck
Hate every single Galar starter.
SV grass starter is sort of cool. Fire guy is neutral for me. Hate SV water starter more than all 3 Galars
Galar for me easily, because Cinderace looks goofy as frick and Inteleon is one of the worst pokemon of all time let alone starters
I don't understand why gamefreak feels the need to self sabotage by designing dogshit purposefully polarizing anthro starters like this, they shill the kanto starters like they're the pinnacle of pokemon design so why haven't they made more starters in that same vein? Why does everything need to be a furry jobmon now?
>Why does everything need to be a furry jobmon now?
Because recolored and cartoon animals sucks
>Why does everything need to be a furry jobmon now?
There's an interview where Masuda or someone discusses this. I don't have it now but maybe I can dig it up later. Basically he says attributing specific personalities to starters makes them better mascots or something along those lines.
Okay, but look at how much they've shilled shit like Charizard, and Pikachu isn't a jobmon either, clearly you can just be an appealing monster and still be very very marketable
>baiting this hard
I'll take a thousand recolored animals over that skinnyfat homosexual galar lizard any day even if that was what the old starters were (they aren't)
>i'd take over literal shit
Oh well
Yes, dumb esl poster, I would take something tolerable and pretty inoffensive over something dogshit thank you
>I'll take a thousand recolored animals
Then why the frick are you a fan of a game called pocket MONSTERS? you wanted plain lame animals? go to the zoo schizoid
Black person look me in the eyes and tell me that the galar starters are more monstrous than the original kanto starters, or the hoenn or sinnoh starters for that matter, you can't in good faith cause that shit was bait and you're still begging for replies
i think you have a weird and twisted definition of "Monster"
just because dracula is different from a werewolf doesn't mean it's not a monster they're both monsters
Giga cope, and in any case I accept your concession that the old starters were monsters and not just recolored animals, so I hold that those starters were way better than shit like Cinderace, Inteleon, or Quaquaval have any hope being, this isn't a controversial statement unless you're a shitposter
>Giga cope
No arguments? oh well
>the old starters were monsters and not just recolored animals
only blaziken, swampert, charizard, venusaur,feraligatr and blastoise are monsters the other are just themed animals
What analogue to typhlosion exists in the real world? And yeah I don't need to argue over obvious bait, you're telling me Typhlosion and Sceptile aren't monsters, but Cinderace (just a soccer themed anthro rabbit) and Rillaboom (literally just a gorilla that plays drums) are? Lol, lmao
>What analogue to typhlosion exists in the real world?
it's a badger anon even a 12 years old knows that
>Typhlosion and Sceptile aren't monsters
Dinosaurs and badgers aren't monsters
>but Cinderace (just a soccer themed anthro rabbit)
So not a plain recolored animal?
>Rillaboom
i'll give you that rillaboom is a lame recolored animal
I forgot that badgers notoriously walk on two legs and have fire manes, it's obviously based on a badger but it's far more of a monster than a literal mascot, is the trix rabbit a monster to you? Because that's all cinderace is except it also plays soccer
>Typhlosion walks on two legs
And you just played yourself you clearly don't know what you're talking about https://youtu.be/Ke4ERHx3Jrw?si=stqCBGMs19O1ZtIC&t=464
(though both occasionally stand up)
>doesn't address anything else I said
Yeah this is worthless I'll stop feeding you now, shill your gay furry starters all you want they still suck
>Gets proven wrong
>G-Guess i'll stop talking to you
Good
What is your actual argument, what makes Cinderace, Inteleon, and Quaquaval superior to Typhlosion? Does being humanoid vs animalistic inherently make them better? They objectively look worse
Ekans and Pidgey are gen 1 pokemon anon
>you wanted plain lame animals?
Don’t see the issue when “plain animal but different” were here since the beginning instead of being a recent thing
This, Game freak was always unoriginal
First they ripoff dragon ball and dragon quest, then they ripoff robotrek, now this
>were here since the beginning
More like they always have been shit since the beginning
Cinderace and Skeledirge are cool, so ummmmm I guess Paldea, that duck is ungodly bad.
no Cinderace is not cool its the worst design of them all
The unova starters
Meowscarada is fricking garbage
galar, because skeledirge is not that bad
I hate the Drum Monkey and the Lizard thing more than the gay duck, so its galar
Noth only have 1 good and manhood member, though gen 8's Cinderace is somewhat, barely torelable, inteleon is borripilus but theres no proper femshit member nor shitteleon is as effeminate as quaqquaraqqua
Also, gen 8's lines are prefty much perfect apart from cinderace and tardteleon, whereas gen 9's cat is already repetitive, the duck is good only in the first stage.
Also, while Skeledirge is one of the best starters, it's almost perfect and it's really good and better than Rillaboom, Gigamax Inteleon and Gigacnderace pretty much redeem even their designs. Gigarilaboom isntead is possibly worse
So, unless Tera forms coming that will be so amazing for each, gen 8's wins by a landslide
I only really dislike the gay duck on the bottom, while only the bunny on the top isn't completely ugly, easy choice
Galar has Harambees, Ronaldo Rabbit and Gex.
Paldea has 87.5% Male, Cocodile and Down and Party Duck.
Both are shit but like british music and spies so Galar starters win for me.
Contrarians hating on mons that stand up like Meowscarada or Cinderace just to fit in are embarassing lmao
Cinderace is the worst starter design in the series you stupid homosexual
Impossible when decidueye exists - a design so fricking garbage, Game Freak went and completely re-designed it 4 years later as it didn't sell to ANYONE, let alone moron kids.
Cinderace at least sells to those same moron kids. So what if you don't like it - unless you're only turning 10 now, you're irrelevant.
everything ok at home anon?
Yeah. Got a leaky roof, but a top-notch builder on speed-dial, I need to pay for an oil tank lock, so can mention it to him then.
But that's beside the point. Decidueye's the youngest starter to get a re-tool to make it popular with people. When the re-tool's only been handed out to shit people either ignored due to sheer mass of numbers (my mom's fire horse/fox) or actively shunned in favour of something more popular (Raichu).
>When the re-tool's only been handed out to shit people either ignored
Are you going to just ignore that Charizard is the most 're-tooled' pokemon ever?
They retool pokemon because someone at gamefreak wants to retool them. It doesn't mean no one likes them, it just means someone at gamefreak wants to play around with the design.
nah decidueye a cool design cindershit is shit
Not according to key market, which is all that matters. kids not liking a native in-region 'mon, fair enough> Kids not liking a starter, despite liking the archetype a Gen prior? Shit, re-tool it, see if we can salvage it. Expect masculine Quaqeval next Legends starter.
kids don't play pokemon
But Quaquaval is already masculine
>is the worst starter design in the series
That's rillaboom
Rillaboom > Meowscarada
Cinderace = Skeledirge
Inteleon < Quaquaval
no Skeledirge shits on Cinderace
Eh I like Cinderace more than Skeledirge other than that I agree
Galar. Despite Cinderace being pure sexoo the other two ugly shits ruin the overall appeal of the starter trio.
With Paldea at least Meowscarada and Skeledirge look cool enough to offset the homosexual duck's ugliness.
Gen 10 will be worse than both anyway
Paldea are acceptable bad. Waifu bait cat & Croc are fine, gayduck is in offensive at worst
Galar are all atrocious to mankind, Inceleon sucks , CInderace looks like a mid evo & Rillaboom had a drum and tacked-on music motive. Need I say more?
Tillaboom < Meow
CInderace < Skeledurge
Inceleon > Quaquaval
Intelion is far and away the worst starter final evo ever, and hile the others are ok it drags the trio down far below paldea
>cinderace isn't an amazing design
Contrarian tards
its not its the worst starter design in the series
wow you're so smart and contrarian. have a nice day tbh you're pond scum iq level
He's right tho...
>wahh im a homosexual millennial i miss gen 1
>wait an animal design with two main colours? THIS IS UNINSPIRED
So what's the issue, uninspired or overdesigned pokemon?
i like overdisigned pokemon so yes Cindershit is uninspired
>it has to be overdesigned and complicated to be good
i bet you think vanilla is a bad flavour
it is
and there it is. you're brown
nah you are
nah you should do that instead and only fedoras care about IQ
1. Skeledirge
2. Rillaboom
Power gap
3. Mewoscarada
4. Cinderace
Power gap
5. Intelleon
6. Gay duck
I guess Paldea barely wins because it has designs I like more despite having the one I like the least
Paldea
They would be good, if only they weren't doing human activities. Rillaboom without the drum, Cinderace without being obsessed with football, and Inteleon without doing gay spy poses would be upgrades to their design.
Paldean starters are a little less aggressive in that regard, but only a little bit
Cinderace is cool, Rillaboom grew on me a little, Skeledirge is good, everyone else is shit, so I guess Paldea.
Cinderace is not even remotely cool its the worst of them all
Galar by a country mile:
>Carrot Top the pokemon
>Just a person, that's it
>TwinkLizard homosexual b***h
Now Paldea on the other hand:
>Braixen but made into final stage
>BasedCroc making furcucks seethe
>QueerDuck hate mostly dying down
For mons rating (½-0-0 vs ½-1-½) makes it quite clear that Galar just fricking sucks outright
Galar is easily the worst, yet Arceus I would say is actually top-tier in it's designs. All of the pokemon there is a good mix of cool and cute at the same time.
Galar is the worst as a trio, but Paldea has the worst individual starter of the six.
>Meow
>Croc & Rilla
>Cinder & Intel
>Quaq
Paldea, Meowscrada and the Gay duck are monumentally bad
Unova has the worst starters and it’s not even close.
Unova is redeemed by royal snake whereas all the Galarmons are ugly as shit
Delusional voregay
Galar is a .5/3 with Cinderrace being just okay, while Paldea is a 2/3, BUT the Gay Duck is worse than any other starter.
Hard to say
Gen 5 and Gen 9 are tied for the worst
Gen 5 and 9
>1 good, 1 meh, 1 shit
Gen 8
>all shit
Nah
There was once a time we could stand together as brothers and agree that Gen 8 starters all sucked ass....
it was unanimous across millions of people, across continents
unova
Galar is the only region where I don't like any of the starters, so they're the worst.
Meow and Dirge are passable and Quaquaval "just" bad.
The Galar trio are all absolute fricking garbage, with Inteleon having the honor of being bottom 3 starters of all time.
Remember what they took from you
I am indifferent. Weapons are just weapons to me. If one breaks, I pick up another.
The Gen 9 starters are stupid but at least there was a lot of effort put into them. You can tell that they really tried to make the concepts work, even if they failed. The Gen 8 starters are just dumb and lazy.
However, they are all pretty good during their 2nd stage EXCEPT for the bird, so it's the only one that can't be salvaged. Make of that what you will.
They all suck.
munky, inceleon, and gay duck are all some of the worst pokemon has to offer
>Galar
Rillaboom is alright but could let go of the drum. It's a gorilla, it could just use its torso.
Cinderace is boring. I wish its design leaned more on its gmax form.
Inteleon is way too bad on all front. Delete it
All three of them are monotype, it's lame.
>Paldea
Meowscarada is a bit boring.
Skeledirge is kind of mess. I don't think that its design translates well the singing part or even its ghost type.
Quaquaval handles its concept well. I like it for this. Real bird legs instead of pants would have been much better.
Galar gets my vote, it was a terrible batch, if not the worst.
I like Cinderance
of those 6 I only like el croco, so I guess I hate the galar trio more
decent, average, average
bad, good, awful
so i say the first one