actual arena- fps aka actual first person shooter fans
nobody else has taken more punishment since consoleBlack folk ruined the entire industry with halo
Kingdom Hearts, not one game has lived up to the original. The closest were Chain of Memories which had a god tier story and shit tier gameplay, and Kingdom Hearts II which was the exact opposite.
>Kingdom Hearts, not one game has lived up to the original.
I don't see a lot of people saying this but it's 100% true. 2 was a great game and all but it didn't work as well as the first game. Ironically they should have kept the story and gameplay "simple and clean" instead of the web of overcomplicated vomit it became
Yeah, this. I waited 20 years for Konami to make another Silent Hill game, and they gave me this
I never realized it until the last trailer of the remake, SH has suffered an identity crisis for decades and they just cant make a good game. The only one with actual potential got cancelled
>was WoW's main competitor for 10 years >saved SE from bankruptcy twice >first 3 expansions were the hands down best MMORPG experience ever created >most social MMO in its prime >most difficult MMO in its prime >was the hardest mainline FF game >still holds the world record for longest undefeated boss in a video game >was grindy but the grind itself was the fun and rewarding part of the game >was punishing, you lost 10% of your lvl's exp when you died and you could level down >even had Tetra Master attached to it for an extra $1/mo, still the best online card game ever made >ran on PC, PS2, Xbox360 and unofficial support for Linux and Mac on a dial-up connection, very poorgay/3rdie friendly
then >4th expansion started casualizing the game >then it raised the level cap, completely invalidating all the gear people had collected for the previous 10 years >3 shit DLC mini-expansions were released that were basically pay2win armor sets >then 3 more DLC mini-expansions that you had to have to even be able to play the game anymore because they killed all previous content >14 came out and it was shelved to make way for new game >14 flopped at first, so a shit 2 expansions were rushed out designed around solo play with summonable bots >devs claimed they lost the PS2 devkits so they couldnt make any more content xD sorry guys >singleplayer offline version was hinted at, then outsourced to Nexon who canned it then went under >20th anniversary was a stream of the devs saying "wow so nostalgic tbh ne xD" over and over, no fanfest no announcements, no classic, no reboot/remaster nothing >got officially named as end of life couple weeks ago >private servers are OK but they're all janky reverse-engineered shit and suffer from pserver drama
FFXI
It had its flaws, but frick me it was a great game with unlimited potential, killed off for no reason.
Look at WoW and Eve Online which came out a year after XI and how far theyve come graphically and content-wise
SimCity. >cucked by SimCity Societies >taken for a ride by Cities XL >every third party project dies >cucked by SimCity 2013 >Cities Skylines splits the fanbase >nobody like Cities Skylines 2 >everyone is stuck with their aged games with a bunch of mods duct-taped to it
i agree
though i thought 2013 couldve been good but the morons clearly didnt playtest it, ask for feedback or use their brains
like it had some cool ideas, but limiting people to tiny cucksquares, fricking up the simulation and always-online for a single player citybuilder screamed corporate douchebags who just want to sell max copies to 40yo women.
SimCity 2013 was the nail in the coffin. I've just been playing modded SimCity 4 since it came out in 2003. Good lord... I think there are more mods for SimCity 4 than there are for Half-Life.
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts fans >really fun vehicle making game comes out >unfortunately attached to the most severely autistic raging homosexual fanbase in the universe >game gets review bombed into oblivion >Rare gives up on the entire series forever
They killed their own fricking franchise because they hated cars so much. Fricking morons, you deserve nothing, and now you get nothing. It's your own fault.
Man I can't wait for Nintendo to dust off that series again, the fans get all excited, then it ends up being yet another fricking remake/port of Starfox 64.
Frank o conman has been ruining halo lore since his involvment in 3 he is the absolute worse person to have steer the ship of halo the most greedy gacha bugman wouldve been perferable to that homosexual.
Saint's Row fate is just fricking tragic. 2 was a masterpiece and they did NOTHING with it. 3 and 4 were okay, but just didn't have the same quality.
And then the reboot came out. At least for some fanbases their games just died, Saint's Row was stripped of everything it was.
Unironically Sonic fans. A mascot so iconic they were able to make 3 generations of consoles off of it, he was so big he stood next to Mario and become a multi-media franchise. Now hes reduced to some of the most fundamentally broken and stupid releases every year, and even normies see Sonic fans as loser autists.
They are my favorite fanbase to interact with as an outsider. As autistic as they can be, they can be really fricking funny.
I don't know if there's enough of us to be considered a fanbase but waiting 30 years for something new and getting this garbage was a kick in the nuts.
From the outside and looking at them i want to say WoW players because they weren't just disappointed or neglected, they actively abused by their devs for 20 years until it turned them all twisted inside.
Final Fantasy is a series that's been "in decline" since fricking 2006, if not earlier. Every time they seem like they may be turning things around, or some hope can be gleamed, the frickups at Square turn around and screw it all up yet again.
>biggest icon in the world in the 90s >almost completely forgotten today
i think it's safe to say that tomb raider fans have been punished for far too long
Star wars >Kotor 3 never ever, any and all potential squandered by book and mmo >RepCom 2 canned before the first game even came out >Battlefront 3 canned like 90% to completion >Rogue Squadron dead on account of factor 5 being dead >starfighter 3 never ever, dunno why >empire at war sequel / expansions never ever despite the fact that the devs have been pitching it for 20 years >TFU3 canned because of buyout >high quality 3d darth talon model scrapped on account of the maul game getting canned on account of the buyout >M-rated star wars game, 1313 (which probably wouldn't have been good, but still) canned >Jedi Academy sequel following the DS ending never ever
>Nu-Battlefront is barebones >Nu-Battlefront 2 becoming a complete paypig fest over loot boxes >Force unleashed 3 is cancelled >Outlaws is open world slop from the ubishitters behind The Division >Squadrons already forgotten
Gothic
Gothic 3 was an utter trainwreck at release. PB wanted to fix it, publisher Deep Silver said no. Eventually the people behind the community patch get paid for an "official" fan patch. G3 becomes playable. Modders (CSP) are trying to fix the game (for real this time), release never ever.
The G3 addon was literally outsourced to inida and managed to be worse.
Arcania (Gothic 4) was so bad that it is no longer part of the franchise.
>Nu Battlefront 2 removes pay2win >content updates >even more content updates >EA kills it in favour of new Battlefield >new Battlefield flops
The game was actually fun. Super optimized too.
>game was actually fun
i heard that too
i didnt buy it cuz it was way too expensive, if it was $15 i wouldve played it but by the time it was no-one was playing it anymore
>people saying Halo
Halo is getting exactly what it deserves for pretty much being responsible for opening the door for dudebros, casuals, DLC slop consumers, and every other bad practice that plagues video games today.
Unironically Sonic fans. A mascot so iconic they were able to make 3 generations of consoles off of it, he was so big he stood next to Mario and become a multi-media franchise. Now hes reduced to some of the most fundamentally broken and stupid releases every year, and even normies see Sonic fans as loser autists.
I would agree with you if the Fandom wasn't some of the worst bottom of the barrel scum on the planet. You fricks basically farmed your own karma for that franchise.
Not every game after 06 is fundamentally broken but every single game after Sega dropped out of the console market with the exception of Mania ranges from "mediocre" to "dogshit"
There is genuinely not a single good 3D Sonic game released after SA2
The team made stuff towards TF3.
Devs were all in on it and talented too.
Project was shattered. Years pass. Servers get DDOS'd for years by a brazilian troony.
Company that owns the game releases a vastly worse game, which succeeds 100x better.
Third game never to be made.
One day the servers will disappear, because EA.
At least we've had the northstar autists helping out recently, I guess.
Final Fantasy.
The decline in quality of the mainline games since X has been outstanding. The whole Fabula Nova Cristallis fiasco has been a disaster for the series, to the paint that Square doesn’t know what FF’s identity is anymore and think it can just be anything, even DMC-lite with MMO-tier side quests.
7R is the best the series has been since XII and even that is plagued with problem like padding, moronic multi-timeline story, and some of worst side quests I’ve seen in a video game (though Rebirth actually seems to address 2/3 of those points)
>since X
XII is great, shut the frick up. It's still a FF game true and through, unlike XIII and XV's autobattle bullshit, and XVI's wannabe Nioh action gameplay that gets mogged by Stranger of Paradise.
They are surface level, but they're there.
It's more of a bait and switch than anything, it has that similar structure in the first couple hours and then goes full Ivalice geopolitics autism.
i mean, probably there was inspiration, but stuff like a dashing pirate and the fight vs an evil empire where the villain is related to a main character are extremely common tropes in media even before star wars
i mean, probably there was inspiration, but stuff like a dashing pirate and the fight vs an evil empire where the villain is related to a main character are extremely common tropes in media even before star wars
>Even it its heyday was "Second Best" to stuff like Starcraft and Warcraft >Westwood got EA'd. >Generals (which wasn't even intended to be C&C) got people moralcrusading due it having Terrorists and China in it. >Invoke Meme Cheesecake games I kinda like RA3 personally though. >Tiberian Twilight and Mobage.
eh being kind of harsh
C&C1 was the first proper mainstream RTS game and was super popular
Red Alert introduced Skirmish modes letting people play matches that went campaign levels
Tiberian Sun was shit at the time but came into its own years and years later with source ports and mods
and Generals was one of the holy trinity of perfect early 00s RTS games along with AOE2 and SC.
If you were at a lan party in 2004 you were guaranteed playing C&C Generals.
Series dropped off hard after that, feels bad.
kind of redeemed themselves with the $10 "every C&C game" pack and the C&C Remasters, also not C&Ding the openRA ports.
Here's every I love that makes me suffer because of who owns it:
.hack//
Xenogears/Saga
Digimon World and Digimon in general
Medabots
Gravity Rush (WHY IS SONY MAKING A MOVIE AFTER KILLINB THE STUDIO LOL)
Star Fox
Fzero
Zelda after BotW
Animal Crossing after New Horizons
Shin Megami Tensei and Atlus (I hate Persona)
Suda 51 games
As a Super Monkey Ball fan, I have suffered. As a Mario Party/Golf/Tennis fan, I have suffered. As a Final Fantasy fan, and a fan of the true 3D Zelda games, I have suffered. But nothing comes close to the suffering I have endured as a Halo fan. 343 is the worst studio to ever play the game.
Splinter Cell >first 3 games are good at the minimum, nearly perfect at best >extremely loved asymmetrical multiplayer >DA comes out >2 versions neither is that horrible tbh (ignoring the fact that the pc port is completely busted) but still a step down >conviction becomes a generic 3rd person shooter >blacklist tries to fix it but still isn't anywhere near the first 4 >only thing now is random cameos in other ubisoft garbage
With that said the series should stay dead because i have 0 faith in ubisoft
FFVII
They just won't let it rest in peace.
Every couple years they come up with some bullshit.
Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, """"Remake""" , 1st Soldier (Already EOS btw), another gacha game that literally prostitutes out every character, and 2 more """remake""" timeline games on the horizon.
You're not going to make a remake like you promised and advertised, fine, but why won't you just let me keep the memories?
Do you really have to go through everything and milk it for everything its worth?
It's disgusting what they're doing to VII.
Probably warcraft, particularly the fans of the the RTS game, but also the WoW fans.
Imagine paying subscription fees just for devs to take massive shits all over the lore and Blizzard going full wokeshit.
I dunno if they suffered the most, but they're up there.
>be FFXIV player >1.0 is very soulful, but nonfunctional on a tech level. The game is fricked, but the content is good. >game dies >2.0 comes out >it's just world of warcraft on a 600ms (or more) server side delay >all the cool concepts from 1.0 are removed >maps are streamlined >cutscenes aren't as good >but the game is a lot more playable, so stick with it because it's FF >2.X goes through, and the content is kinda scarce, but Yoshi-P keeps saying "We regret this, and want to deliver and wider breadth of content once we overcome the technical debt of 1.0" >ok I believe you >3.0 comes around >server side lag is now down to 200~300ms server side, a big improvement, it's like playing a different game >content for all of 3.X is streamlined >Jobs get more homogenized >interesting mechanics like Crossclass skills get streamlined >the content update cycle is now more or less set in stone, and has become very predictable and boring >the Raiding is fricking hard, which would be OK if the server side lag wasn't still too bad for this type of challenge to be taking place in this game >4.0 comes out >No mention of technical debt other than for netcode and server issues anymore >promising a wider breadth of content and some new fresh shit >hype >Said content comes out: Eureka >it's fricking AMAZING >4 regions that basically play like FFXI or Vanilla WoW with their own leveling system >it all culminates in a 48+8man raid where anyone who dies gets kicked out of the raid >music from BA still makes people sweat it was so fricking tense >story is great (unless you're a brainlet) >antagonist was so good they reused him in another expansion >RDM released, extremely well received >4.X overall extremely good >but the game is not garnering popularity
>Fast forward to 5.X >writer replaced, story retconned >gameplay features GUTTED >itemization GUTTED >jobs completely homogenized >nothing to do >extreme social media viral success because of Blizzard scandals >shittiest xpac, biggest success
Monster Hunter.
Smash fans, at first they were smelly and then pedos AND now "forgotten"
Monhungays havent suffered at all since theyve always behaved like that
actual arena- fps aka actual first person shooter fans
nobody else has taken more punishment since consoleBlack folk ruined the entire industry with halo
consoletards ruined video games as a whole
Seethe harder b***h Halo is the best fps of all time
You being little pussies doesn't mean you suffered, sorry sweetums
/v/
Kingdom Hearts, not one game has lived up to the original. The closest were Chain of Memories which had a god tier story and shit tier gameplay, and Kingdom Hearts II which was the exact opposite.
This easily, just due to the fact that KH fanbase has to play all those shitty KH games to keep up with the story.
>Kingdom Hearts, not one game has lived up to the original.
I don't see a lot of people saying this but it's 100% true. 2 was a great game and all but it didn't work as well as the first game. Ironically they should have kept the story and gameplay "simple and clean" instead of the web of overcomplicated vomit it became
I love all of Kingdom Hearts.
But 1 is the best and everyone is shitty to me because I love this series. Especially the fans
the one where it was the end of themselves but it was split up into 1 or 2 parts for raisins
Silent Hill no contest, when Konami isn't spitting in their mouth then their own moronic fan base is sperging about circumcision
Yeah, this. I waited 20 years for Konami to make another Silent Hill game, and they gave me this
I never realized it until the last trailer of the remake, SH has suffered an identity crisis for decades and they just cant make a good game. The only one with actual potential got cancelled
Silent Hill is a series that has been described as declining for as far back as I can remember becoming aware of it. And I'm not a zoomer.
It's incredible how it only has 4 good games and even then people argue that it's only three
This. The series has been raped, left for dead, and then resurrected to be raped some more.
palword, truly been attacked since it released
Overwatch fans
Xbox
Ragnarok Online
Frick everything that Gravity has done for the last 16 years
Best answer. Being a RO fan has been nothing but suffering for far over a decade.
suikoden
The Marathon fanbase, what in the living frick is this garbage?
it looks cool and original. when you have ever seen a white colored asian woman wearing high-vis
>it looks cool and original
It looks like moronic shit and
>original
It is supposed to look like fricking Marathon. It is garbage.
idk what the original marathon is and idc, this looks cool on its own
The thread is about fanbases and it looks like moronic shit for morons like you that hate marathon
That shit will never be released.
F Zero
this without a doubt. we tasted but a drop of the holy grail in 2003 and we have yet to experience it again since
Halo, but in a broader sense, Bungie fans.
From the seventh column to seven different microtransaction currencies in Destiny. What a downfall.
The next closest thing is probably WoW.
This. Halo, probably Crash Bandicoot or Spyro as well. Any big name mascot that fricking died and became a reanimated corpse.
All because of a moronic blad scotsman.
>was WoW's main competitor for 10 years
>saved SE from bankruptcy twice
>first 3 expansions were the hands down best MMORPG experience ever created
>most social MMO in its prime
>most difficult MMO in its prime
>was the hardest mainline FF game
>still holds the world record for longest undefeated boss in a video game
>was grindy but the grind itself was the fun and rewarding part of the game
>was punishing, you lost 10% of your lvl's exp when you died and you could level down
>even had Tetra Master attached to it for an extra $1/mo, still the best online card game ever made
>ran on PC, PS2, Xbox360 and unofficial support for Linux and Mac on a dial-up connection, very poorgay/3rdie friendly
then
>4th expansion started casualizing the game
>then it raised the level cap, completely invalidating all the gear people had collected for the previous 10 years
>3 shit DLC mini-expansions were released that were basically pay2win armor sets
>then 3 more DLC mini-expansions that you had to have to even be able to play the game anymore because they killed all previous content
>14 came out and it was shelved to make way for new game
>14 flopped at first, so a shit 2 expansions were rushed out designed around solo play with summonable bots
>devs claimed they lost the PS2 devkits so they couldnt make any more content xD sorry guys
>singleplayer offline version was hinted at, then outsourced to Nexon who canned it then went under
>20th anniversary was a stream of the devs saying "wow so nostalgic tbh ne xD" over and over, no fanfest no announcements, no classic, no reboot/remaster nothing
>got officially named as end of life couple weeks ago
>private servers are OK but they're all janky reverse-engineered shit and suffer from pserver drama
FFXI
It had its flaws, but frick me it was a great game with unlimited potential, killed off for no reason.
Look at WoW and Eve Online which came out a year after XI and how far theyve come graphically and content-wise
this is what addiction does to a man
>liking a good game is addiction
Gravity Rush
Conker and its not even close
Metroid Prime
SimCity.
>cucked by SimCity Societies
>taken for a ride by Cities XL
>every third party project dies
>cucked by SimCity 2013
>Cities Skylines splits the fanbase
>nobody like Cities Skylines 2
>everyone is stuck with their aged games with a bunch of mods duct-taped to it
i agree
though i thought 2013 couldve been good but the morons clearly didnt playtest it, ask for feedback or use their brains
like it had some cool ideas, but limiting people to tiny cucksquares, fricking up the simulation and always-online for a single player citybuilder screamed corporate douchebags who just want to sell max copies to 40yo women.
SimCity 2013 was the nail in the coffin. I've just been playing modded SimCity 4 since it came out in 2003. Good lord... I think there are more mods for SimCity 4 than there are for Half-Life.
>I think there are more mods for SimCity 4 than there are for Half-Life.
what are some good ones?
I loved SimCity and grew up playing Maxis games. It is wild to think the SC franchise has been fricked now for longer than it was good.
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts fans
>really fun vehicle making game comes out
>unfortunately attached to the most severely autistic raging homosexual fanbase in the universe
>game gets review bombed into oblivion
>Rare gives up on the entire series forever
They killed their own fricking franchise because they hated cars so much. Fricking morons, you deserve nothing, and now you get nothing. It's your own fault.
Star Fox fans
Man I can't wait for Nintendo to dust off that series again, the fans get all excited, then it ends up being yet another fricking remake/port of Starfox 64.
Rayman
Zero Escape. We had two really great games and rallied together for 2 years to convince cucksoft to make the third game. We all got burned so badly.
Out of every game mentioned ITT, I gotta go with this. I couldn't even stomach ZTD enough to play more than 2 or 3 scenes after loving 999 and VLR.
Punch Out
Frank o conman has been ruining halo lore since his involvment in 3 he is the absolute worse person to have steer the ship of halo the most greedy gacha bugman wouldve been perferable to that homosexual.
Saint's Row fate is just fricking tragic. 2 was a masterpiece and they did NOTHING with it. 3 and 4 were okay, but just didn't have the same quality.
And then the reboot came out. At least for some fanbases their games just died, Saint's Row was stripped of everything it was.
>The last man to truly care about it died of cancer
>taking all hope of a stable PC version with him
Surely that patch they promised the guy on his deathbed they'd finish is on the way
Half Life fans
Sonic
Pokemon
Star Fox
Tony Hawk
Skate
SSX
Need for speed
>Pokegays
>Suffering
Anon is th opposite, they eat any shit that GF release and ask for seconds, they have no standards and deserve the current state of the franchise
t.Pokegay.
/vp/ actively shilling and defending the Switch games has to be their biggest cope.
Sonic.
They are my favorite fanbase to interact with as an outsider. As autistic as they can be, they can be really fricking funny.
unlike other fanbases they actually produce stuff, sometimes even good. like, really good, sonic robo blast 2 is great
castlevania
>Duke Nukem
>Saints Row
>Freelancer
>Warcraft
sega fans
Resident Evil.
The closest we got to the good old days was 7. Then they went back on their bullshit.
sonic but they deserve it
It's between Rayman, Blood and Silent Hill.
Beyond good & evil too.
I don't know if there's enough of us to be considered a fanbase but waiting 30 years for something new and getting this garbage was a kick in the nuts.
A few to consider
VtM
Valve's entire fanbase
Paper mario
Dead Space
Saints row
From the outside and looking at them i want to say WoW players because they weren't just disappointed or neglected, they actively abused by their devs for 20 years until it turned them all twisted inside.
Gundam. Nothing ever beat journey to jaburo.
söylent hill
Nights into dreams.
Y'all don't even know what its like being a MegaMan Battle Network fan. scratch that. A Megaman fan in general.
Phantasy star
VTMB
Final Fantasy is a series that's been "in decline" since fricking 2006, if not earlier. Every time they seem like they may be turning things around, or some hope can be gleamed, the frickups at Square turn around and screw it all up yet again.
>biggest icon in the world in the 90s
>almost completely forgotten today
i think it's safe to say that tomb raider fans have been punished for far too long
Star wars
>Kotor 3 never ever, any and all potential squandered by book and mmo
>RepCom 2 canned before the first game even came out
>Battlefront 3 canned like 90% to completion
>Rogue Squadron dead on account of factor 5 being dead
>starfighter 3 never ever, dunno why
>empire at war sequel / expansions never ever despite the fact that the devs have been pitching it for 20 years
>TFU3 canned because of buyout
>high quality 3d darth talon model scrapped on account of the maul game getting canned on account of the buyout
>M-rated star wars game, 1313 (which probably wouldn't have been good, but still) canned
>Jedi Academy sequel following the DS ending never ever
>Nu-Battlefront is barebones
>Nu-Battlefront 2 becoming a complete paypig fest over loot boxes
>Force unleashed 3 is cancelled
>Outlaws is open world slop from the ubishitters behind The Division
>Squadrons already forgotten
Gothic
Gothic 3 was an utter trainwreck at release. PB wanted to fix it, publisher Deep Silver said no. Eventually the people behind the community patch get paid for an "official" fan patch. G3 becomes playable. Modders (CSP) are trying to fix the game (for real this time), release never ever.
The G3 addon was literally outsourced to inida and managed to be worse.
Arcania (Gothic 4) was so bad that it is no longer part of the franchise.
>Nu Battlefront 2 removes pay2win
>content updates
>even more content updates
>EA kills it in favour of new Battlefield
>new Battlefield flops
The game was actually fun. Super optimized too.
>game was actually fun
i heard that too
i didnt buy it cuz it was way too expensive, if it was $15 i wouldve played it but by the time it was no-one was playing it anymore
Halo as they’ve been handed a succession of shit games since Reach
TF2.
>people saying Halo
Halo is getting exactly what it deserves for pretty much being responsible for opening the door for dudebros, casuals, DLC slop consumers, and every other bad practice that plagues video games today.
Low tier bait
still never understood what the comic was supposed to be parodying
Silent Hill and is about to get worse
Unironically Sonic fans. A mascot so iconic they were able to make 3 generations of consoles off of it, he was so big he stood next to Mario and become a multi-media franchise. Now hes reduced to some of the most fundamentally broken and stupid releases every year, and even normies see Sonic fans as loser autists.
I would agree with you if the Fandom wasn't some of the worst bottom of the barrel scum on the planet. You fricks basically farmed your own karma for that franchise.
I beg you to play a sonic game after 06
Not every game after 06 is fundamentally broken but every single game after Sega dropped out of the console market with the exception of Mania ranges from "mediocre" to "dogshit"
There is genuinely not a single good 3D Sonic game released after SA2
League of legends
Its players are pure masochists
Fricking crash and spyro are both cursed ass franchises that keep getting tied to shit studios then crap occurs.
Titanfall fans
The team made stuff towards TF3.
Devs were all in on it and talented too.
Project was shattered. Years pass. Servers get DDOS'd for years by a brazilian troony.
Company that owns the game releases a vastly worse game, which succeeds 100x better.
Third game never to be made.
One day the servers will disappear, because EA.
At least we've had the northstar autists helping out recently, I guess.
Metroid Prime
At least people think prime 4 will be a switch 2 opener game, so it could sell well.
As the main character, i feel starcraft fanbase has suffered worst.
Silent Hill
>responses to OP are majority of old franchises
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How many new franchises have started well? To suffer you actually need a good time to begin with
His point was that the majority of old franchises suffered the same fate.
It takes time to become a franchise
It takes more time for it to decline and cause suffering
What was your point?
Non autistic Sega fans.
Mega Man, fricking easily.
Final Fantasy.
The decline in quality of the mainline games since X has been outstanding. The whole Fabula Nova Cristallis fiasco has been a disaster for the series, to the paint that Square doesn’t know what FF’s identity is anymore and think it can just be anything, even DMC-lite with MMO-tier side quests.
7R is the best the series has been since XII and even that is plagued with problem like padding, moronic multi-timeline story, and some of worst side quests I’ve seen in a video game (though Rebirth actually seems to address 2/3 of those points)
>since X
XII is great, shut the frick up. It's still a FF game true and through, unlike XIII and XV's autobattle bullshit, and XVI's wannabe Nioh action gameplay that gets mogged by Stranger of Paradise.
i never understood the star wars comparisons when the similarities are some of the most surface level bullshit i've ever seen
They are surface level, but they're there.
It's more of a bait and switch than anything, it has that similar structure in the first couple hours and then goes full Ivalice geopolitics autism.
>i never understood the star wars comparisons
Yeah, there's no way the creators were inspired by Star Wars in any way.
it's not star wars just because there's robots
XII is obvious, but VI is really stretching it
Are you guys being moronic on purpose?
i mean, probably there was inspiration, but stuff like a dashing pirate and the fight vs an evil empire where the villain is related to a main character are extremely common tropes in media even before star wars
Probably Command and Conquer in my opinion.
>Even it its heyday was "Second Best" to stuff like Starcraft and Warcraft
>Westwood got EA'd.
>Generals (which wasn't even intended to be C&C) got people moralcrusading due it having Terrorists and China in it.
>Invoke Meme Cheesecake games I kinda like RA3 personally though.
>Tiberian Twilight and Mobage.
eh being kind of harsh
C&C1 was the first proper mainstream RTS game and was super popular
Red Alert introduced Skirmish modes letting people play matches that went campaign levels
Tiberian Sun was shit at the time but came into its own years and years later with source ports and mods
and Generals was one of the holy trinity of perfect early 00s RTS games along with AOE2 and SC.
If you were at a lan party in 2004 you were guaranteed playing C&C Generals.
Series dropped off hard after that, feels bad.
kind of redeemed themselves with the $10 "every C&C game" pack and the C&C Remasters, also not C&Ding the openRA ports.
Etrian Odyssey fans
Everyone
Hyperdimension Neptunia, like what the frick we had so much momentum 7-8 years ago and things just kinda crashed to a halt
Here's every I love that makes me suffer because of who owns it:
.hack//
Xenogears/Saga
Digimon World and Digimon in general
Medabots
Gravity Rush (WHY IS SONY MAKING A MOVIE AFTER KILLINB THE STUDIO LOL)
Star Fox
Fzero
Zelda after BotW
Animal Crossing after New Horizons
Shin Megami Tensei and Atlus (I hate Persona)
Suda 51 games
Fallout
Besides the obvious few, elder scrolls and C&C fans.
Cube World.
As a Super Monkey Ball fan, I have suffered. As a Mario Party/Golf/Tennis fan, I have suffered. As a Final Fantasy fan, and a fan of the true 3D Zelda games, I have suffered. But nothing comes close to the suffering I have endured as a Halo fan. 343 is the worst studio to ever play the game.
I haven't suffered, but every fanbase in this thread deserves it.
Marathon fans don't, we didn't do anything for 20 years.
Splinter Cell
>first 3 games are good at the minimum, nearly perfect at best
>extremely loved asymmetrical multiplayer
>DA comes out
>2 versions neither is that horrible tbh (ignoring the fact that the pc port is completely busted) but still a step down
>conviction becomes a generic 3rd person shooter
>blacklist tries to fix it but still isn't anywhere near the first 4
>only thing now is random cameos in other ubisoft garbage
With that said the series should stay dead because i have 0 faith in ubisoft
artifact
Karnov's been MIA for over 20 years now. Someone needs to buy his rights
FFVII
They just won't let it rest in peace.
Every couple years they come up with some bullshit.
Dirge of Cerberus, Advent Children, """"Remake""" , 1st Soldier (Already EOS btw), another gacha game that literally prostitutes out every character, and 2 more """remake""" timeline games on the horizon.
You're not going to make a remake like you promised and advertised, fine, but why won't you just let me keep the memories?
Do you really have to go through everything and milk it for everything its worth?
It's disgusting what they're doing to VII.
Souls fans
>get attacked for simply telling people to git gud instead of complaining like b***hes
super duper unfair but thats life i guess
Halo
Skullgirls
seconding Skullgirls
every mmo fanbase, every mobile game fanbase, every moba fanbase, just about every fps fanbase
games designed to make you a paypiggy and/or addicted autist.
Probably warcraft, particularly the fans of the the RTS game, but also the WoW fans.
Imagine paying subscription fees just for devs to take massive shits all over the lore and Blizzard going full wokeshit.
I dunno if they suffered the most, but they're up there.
Warcraft or diablo
Halo
Please..... what did we even do to deserve this....
>be FFXIV player
>1.0 is very soulful, but nonfunctional on a tech level. The game is fricked, but the content is good.
>game dies
>2.0 comes out
>it's just world of warcraft on a 600ms (or more) server side delay
>all the cool concepts from 1.0 are removed
>maps are streamlined
>cutscenes aren't as good
>but the game is a lot more playable, so stick with it because it's FF
>2.X goes through, and the content is kinda scarce, but Yoshi-P keeps saying "We regret this, and want to deliver and wider breadth of content once we overcome the technical debt of 1.0"
>ok I believe you
>3.0 comes around
>server side lag is now down to 200~300ms server side, a big improvement, it's like playing a different game
>content for all of 3.X is streamlined
>Jobs get more homogenized
>interesting mechanics like Crossclass skills get streamlined
>the content update cycle is now more or less set in stone, and has become very predictable and boring
>the Raiding is fricking hard, which would be OK if the server side lag wasn't still too bad for this type of challenge to be taking place in this game
>4.0 comes out
>No mention of technical debt other than for netcode and server issues anymore
>promising a wider breadth of content and some new fresh shit
>hype
>Said content comes out: Eureka
>it's fricking AMAZING
>4 regions that basically play like FFXI or Vanilla WoW with their own leveling system
>it all culminates in a 48+8man raid where anyone who dies gets kicked out of the raid
>music from BA still makes people sweat it was so fricking tense
>story is great (unless you're a brainlet)
>antagonist was so good they reused him in another expansion
>RDM released, extremely well received
>4.X overall extremely good
>but the game is not garnering popularity
>Fast forward to 5.X
>writer replaced, story retconned
>gameplay features GUTTED
>itemization GUTTED
>jobs completely homogenized
>nothing to do
>extreme social media viral success because of Blizzard scandals
>shittiest xpac, biggest success
Final Fantasy
COMPANY OF HEROES FANS
team fortress 2 has gotta be up there on the suffer meter
Cube World fans.
Blizzard fans.
Duke Nukem.
Warcraft RTS fans, the one time a game gets remade it's fricking abysmal, and because of WoW they will never see another Warcraft RTS again
/v/
Fire Emblem, Xenoblade and Persona. Attract a lot of normalgay cancer, especially on this website.
Silent Hill or Mass Effect
No fanbase has suffered more than Project M fans. Literally the most traumatizing thing that could happen to any competitive game ever.