While it's safe to say there never will be another type introduced into Pokemon IF there were to be what new type would you want that to be?
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While it's safe to say there never will be another type introduced into Pokemon IF there were to be what new type would you want that to be?
Penis type
And balls type
Cosmic is so strongly associated with Psychic that we have 2 gyms centered around outer space, an Elite Four room with elements of outer space and stars, and a group of Legendary and Mythical Pokémon centered around celestial bodies.
Cosmic since Psychic is such a bloated type, but as said it’s not even the Pokémon but the characters that make it way less feasible. So I could maybe see it in a soft/hard reboot but not as it is now.
Maybe Nuclear/Radioactive if GameFreak gets over TWO BOMBS but I can see why not.
>But Poi-
Poison’s only link to nuclear power is Muk’s original Dex entries.
>Light and Sound
Lol
I genuinely think Psychic has become the vaguest type, beating out Fairy. It's telepathy, telekinesis, light, magic, and cosmos all in one.
I can see why psychic has ended up as the cosmic type. There's a lot of modern mythology about aliens having more advanced brains, especially with stuff like greys, which comes packaged with telekinesis and telepathy. It can represent having higher or forbidden knowledge of the workings of the universe for the more deific legendaries, or the ability to just control aspects of the world through their thoughts. If you get into sort of modern spiritual, wu stuff then psionics, magic and cosmic knowledge all get kind of rolled into one. I'd dare say there's a little bit of Lovecraft influence there too, especially with Pokemon like Deoxys, wherein the Mythos entities have levels of thought and understanding that are above and beyond humans, and in the most famous Call of Cthulhu, Cthulhu has psychic powers which drive people crazy and manifest in dreams. It's true that 'psychic' might be more accurately called something like 'mystic' or 'supernatural' though.
I mean when you look at it
>Starmie
Based on a star (Well, and a starfish) and is said to send unknown radio waves and signals into space.. Part pyschic type
>Elgyem & Beeheyem
Literal ayy lmao aliens.. Pyschic type
>Deoxys
A virus from space. Psychic type
A lot of cults in the 70's and 80's were founded by cranks who believed they were receiving telepathic revelations from aliens instead of divine revelations from gods. There's a pretty clear connection between psychic powers and outer space, but only if you know about what self-proclaimed psychics were doing in the 70's.
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rubber
>chart says cosmic type
>lists sound-type moves
???
Sound would be cool honestly
What about Crystal type? I love her!
There's a dark type but no light type, what's the deal with that?
Dark type means Evil type in Japanese. Just the Western devs thought that "evil type" was too much so they changed it to "dark"
This isn't true. The root word that's used in Japanese has many potential meanings, with Evil being one of them, but also literal darkness, wickedness, demons, etc.. The type represents dirty fighting, brutality, and yes, literal darkness. "Dark" is a good approximation of these concepts.
You could argue Fairy is meant as a stand in for Light type in many cases, though, but its not its central focus.
>but also literal darkness
Can you point to any compound words that demonstrate this?
https://jisho.org/word/%E6%82%AA
Jisho clearly shows that it means wicked, evil, bad but doesn't mention "darkness." The association of Dark type with darkness seems to be a secondary association. The association with night time is because criminals often work under cover of darkness; it's secondary, and tied directly to the original meaning (evil, wickedness).
>The association with night time is because criminals often work under cover of darkness
yep
Personally prefer Dark over Evil. The idea that a pokemon is a “bad guy” because solely because of their type is cringe
>The idea that a pokemon is a “bad guy” because solely because of their type is cringe
I mean, if you look at humans IRL..
>Normal becomes Coomer type and it’s stock image turns to coomer white.
Every Normal type gets Protean/Libero
'Wicked' Type makes the intention clear with Dark Type.
But look at Johto's Dark types in particular, along with *some* Hoenn Dark types, and you see that the darkness aspect does come in to play.
Tyranitar, isolated mountain caves.
Houndour and Houndoom, nocturnal.
Sneasel, frozen caves at night.
Murkrow, nocturnal.
Sableye, isolated caves.
Crawdaunt, alone in the depths of ponds.
Sharpedo, Super Rod (deepest depths of the ocean).
Wicked could work too, yeah.
I'd take your examples further. Most Dark pokemon are nocturnal or outright associated with night (Umbreon, Darkrai for ex, even Roaring Moon), and some moves are outright about darkness. Hell, the big "type representing" Z-moves and Dynamax moves are about literal darkness. Black Hole Eclipse is about as physically dark as you can get.
There's some demonology there too. Houndoom as a hellhound, Hydreigon as Orochi and what not. It's a multi faceted type in the same way that others are multi faceted-- Grass type includes mushrooms which aren't plants, for example.
Thing is some make sense some don't. Like why is Mabosstiff a dark type? It's Pokedex even says it's a friendly family dog.
But then you get Pokemon like Liepard and Thievul who are more "evil" via the fact they are known for being all sneaky and sly
Even Alolan Raticate and Persian kind of fits that with it being all greedy and selfish
hence why nugen shit was not mentioned
consistency regularly thrown out the window
only one instance of it in old gens as Absol which is le subversion of expectations
Dark incorporates dirty fighting and underhandedness. Thieving Pokemon fit the type still, it's also why Thief the move is Dark. I agree with Mabostiff though, may as well have just been a Normal type. Doesnt really have much to do with Dark outside of just looking mean.
"Evil" alone isn't good enough a description for the type, though. Not only are there plenty of counter examples within the type (Absol and Darkrai for example), and plenty of other qualities the type clearly interacts with, but the ironically the most outwardly malevolent Pokemon are almost all Ghost types.
Generally Dark Pokemon can fit into at least one of three categories
>Dirty fighting
Scrafty, Thievul, Impidimp
>The brutality of nature
Hydreigon, Sharpedo, Tyranitar
>Literal darkness
Umbreon, Darkrai, Greninja
>but the ironically the most outwardly malevolent Pokemon are almost all Ghost types.
false
Incorrect. Several Ghost entries explicitly state that they are outright malevolent. Example:
>This frightful, malevolent spirit can glide through walls, appearing wherever it likes. According to rumor, victims of a Haunter's lick will wither to death day by day.
yes let's conveniently ignore the Dark types' entries
Seems your problem is reading comprehension, moron-kun
boy do I love engaging with falacious uppity cherry-pickers like you
I feel at this point adding a new type for the sack of adding a new type is kinda pointless. However I think some small rebalances would be nice. Poison strong against Fighting, Give Ice another resistance, maybe grass? Change the types of a few pokemon.
This person doesn't understand balancing, first of all, and there's also a few questionable decisions like Recover, but overall the type makes sense for the mons featured.
The creator just has no clue how to incorporate it into the metagame.
For example, UV Light (Cosmic) vs germs (Poison), super effective hit, but this ninny did the opposite, as if space cares about poison or banes in general.
Yeah, plus they gave Ghost a buff too, which is fricking dumb. I do like Dragon having an advantage though, whether the creator is aware or not, Dragons are often associated with cosmic entities in japanese mythology (hence things like Draco Meteor)
Itd need some more careful balancing, but yeah I like this approach, as if it has dominion over the base elements.
Also make it immune to flying. No air in space. And those flying types have had it too good for too long
Space type as I like to call it should be SE against things like Water, Electric, and Fire. Energies and states of matter that are snuffed out by the harsh vacuum of space. While tough materials that can survive in the vacuum would resist. Ice, Rock, and Steel. Give Psychic the edge too, since they've been associated with space for so long and you could bend space with psychic powers or something
>tough materials that can survive in the vacuum would resist. Ice, Rock, and Steel.
agree
>SE against things like Water, Electric, and Fire. Energies and states of matter that are snuffed out by the harsh vacuum of space.
eh maybe
forgetting Poison as well
Fire and Electric represent Light to some extent
Normal would also be snuffed
Psychic could resist, but super effecting doesn't strike me as sensical.
Dragon and Flying must also factor in because of Rayquaza; in fact, Mega Rayquaza *could* be Cosmic type instead of Flying.
I'd make Space more a balance type than a concept type
>SE vs Fairy, Water, Steel
>NVE vs Bug, Ice, Rock
>Weak to Normal, Grass, Bug
>Resists Ice, Ground, Rock
Its a mess to explain why they are the way they are besides its strong against strong types, weak against weak types, weak to types that are bad coverage, and resists types that are good coverage.
>Its a mess to explain why they are the way they are
maybe because you made moronic decisions with no IRL grounding
It won't be light sound or cosmic
Japan is strict about IPs that means that they don't want to use anything created by others, so they won't be picking anything popular with the players especially a fan type
The more popular a fan type becomes the least likely it is to become a thing
We don't need another typing
food type
A flying type/wind type split would make sense conceptually, as I'd say moreso than any other type 'flying' is basically just a physical descriptor which means 'this Pokemon has wings/some other method of staying airborne' rather than 'this Pokemon has an elemental affinity for wind' - but there's so few Pokemon that fall in the latter category that giving them their own typing wouldn't really be worth it anyway. Like even after 9 generations they're still mostly birds, whereas the only ones I'd say are more like wind elementals are Rayquaza and the genie trio.
How would you split Water
Hot-Salt-Grease type
Would you remove Normal?
Yeah I mused about that actually. I said flying was the most physical descriptive type but it's also absolutely true that water means either/both
>Is elementally aligned with water
>Is a fish/frog/thing that lives in water
You could maybe split it between 'water' and 'aquatic' along that line of thought, with something like Bibarel or even Magikarp being 'aquatic' rather than water, but frankly that sounds kind of moronic.
If you really wanted to switch shit up I suppose you could add an additional category for Pokemon like 'environment' seperate from typing
>This thing flies/lives in the air but isn't elementally aligned with wind
>This thing lives in and around water but isn't elementally aligned with water
But obviously doing that for every single Pokemon and changing typings accordingly would never happen.
Pokemon did this in gens1-3 and you frickers complaint.
Most fish mons are aquatic, not water users, meaning they either don't have access to Water moves , or have low special
same with Mawile and Rhyhorn
Dratini, Lileep and Anorith are good examples of
>aquatic but not water type
but off the top of my head I can't think of many others or any fish from the first 3 gens who aren't water type.
I don't want anymore. If it was up to me fairy would be removed forever and types rebalanced.
This cosmic type is garbage
Type with a straight face Pokémon is done adding new types.
This
>nearly 3/4 of OP’s pic are just psychic types in the actual games already
>turning fricking Arceus into a dual type
I’ve still yet to see an actual compelling argument for cosmic, or at least a semi okay argument from someone who isn’t moronic.
We don’t need any more types, honestly. We have more than enough, and some of them (Psychic, Dark, Fairy, even Fighting and Normal in some cases) are stretched very thin in terms of what they actually represent.
Maybe a “Blessed type” as a counterpart to Dark if I had to pick something. Kit would revolve around using means of purifying, expelling evil, bringing righteous judgment, wielding divine light, exorcising, the power of friendship (now that return is cut), and so on. Certain moves like lucky chant and safeguard could be retyped. Would invariably like all fan types step in the toes of another type or two though. Fighting and Fairy obviously. The former has a couple of true paragon or monk themed pokemon (Gallade, Lucario, Kommo-o) while the latter has some “pure soul/savior” pokemon (Gardevoir, Togekiss, Magearna) though I could still probably excuse a “Blessed type” on the whole given that fighting types are focused more around martial arts and ki blasts, while fairies generally trend more to the girly/innocent/mischievous side. There’s no real “pure good” type yet anyway, and even Dark as the “pure evil” stand in type still has its key traits of brutality. malevolence, and subversion taken up by ghosts, poisons, and even dragons in places. At least with making a dark type counterpart you could excuse certain aspects of it overlapping with other types purely on precedent.
>While it's safe to say there never will be another type introduced into Pokemon
I thought the same thing before fairy.
>IF there were to be what new type would you want that to be?
Fungus type, plants are different enough from fungi that the type wouldnt feel super redundant (at least no more than ice and water, rock and ground AND psychic and fairy) and there are enough old mons related to mushrooms to retcon that it wouldnt feel like it was born yesterday, just that it was a rare type like ghost/dragon once were.
>While it's safe to say there never will be another type introduced into Pokemon
>He doesn't know about the nineteenth Tera Type