who even buys these games?
is it just a money laundering scheme and esg cheque for ubisoft at this point
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who even buys these games? is it just a money laundering scheme and esg cheque for ubisoft at this point
Unironically women.
It proves there is a serious market for games with historical settings like ancient Greece, Egypt, the Middle-East in general and more.
I wish we had a competent developer making historic games like that. im tired of ubis trannified history takes
My dad loves and plays through every single AC game for this reason. He says he likes seeing the historical figures and he's retired so he really likes the open world checkbox style gameplay of them. He has 100%-ed every AC game so far and has like 200-400 hours in most of them.
Sounds pretty based tbqh. It must be nice to enjoy video games. I wouldn't know, personally.
Yeah he's pretty cool. I play those games just because he wanted someone to talk to about them.
He also loves company of heroes and we used to take turns playing shit like Half Life MP servers and swap any time one of us died
being a skinnerbox enjoying golem is NOT based.
>doesn't even know what skinnerbox means
Being an ESL is not based.
Poor guy... asks him if euthanasia might be the best option.
fatherless response
That's why I like them too. Yeah the assassin vs templar plot is shit but I love just walking around these cool historical settings and appreciating the architecture
>be me
>see Origins trailer
>holy frick Late Kingdom Egypt, my favourite period ever
>map looks lush and expansive
>has a cool museum mode thing that really delves into the locations' IRL history
>....is attached to an utter nightmare of Ubisoft grinding bollox and a dogshit story written by people who haven't slept in days at a time
That company holds so much talent hostage. Why can't they just make a good fricking game? Just let it be a sandbox where all of the gindy shit is replaced with fun minigames and side activities like San Andreas was, and that assassin-ing is like the first game? They half heartedly tried it with Mirage but fricked it up and now will use that as an excuse to go back to the shit RPG stuff forever.
Because they can sell time-savers to you anon.
>Don't play with time saver
>Have to grind for levels in every 2 main quest
>Play it with time saver
>No grinding whatsoever, you will always be at the level main mission wants you to be
That's the entire reason why they turned it into an RPG
Aside from how insidious that is, I have never even remotely felt motivated to use something like that in a game. They just ruined their games, and it makes me not want to play them. It's depressing that apparently so many people fall for such a casino-like scam, but it's even worse that it happens to a series I'd love otherwise.
Is there any mods for these things that just make level scaling work better?
>Is there any mods for these things that just make level scaling work better?
I don't know. NG+? I've played Odyssey with NG+ a little bit and it was night and day because everything was on my level.
>Is there any mods for these things that just make level scaling work better?
You can just use Cheat Engine to bypass the grinding in the nu-Creeds.
Honestly I've always thought Ubisoft could just contract out their world tech or something. They are masterclass at making a gameworld but are some of the worst people when it comes to actually filling the world with interesting shit to do
>utter nightmare of Ubisoft grinding bollox
Origins isn't even that grindy. You should see the shitstain that is Odyssey.
I don't even want to think about it. The last three games are periods I love. Valhalla is a bit too Heilung or some shit though, but Dublin, where I lived for years and literally did viking re-enactment in, is in it and it's heartbreaking.
Frick, I might just find a rake of mods to make these games not shit and play it like that from the beginning.
Origins isn't grindy at all. Its problem is like 3/4 of the zones are utterly redundant as you'll overlevel them ridiculously quickly. I have no idea who the game was balanced for. Someone who just rushes from main story mission to the next and ignores everything else?
Delusional as frick. These games sell millions with every release.
>b-b-b-but my epic Ganker circlejerk friends said ubisoft bad!
Ganker doesn't play games.
>Ubisoft grinding bollox
lolwut
You just do quests and then equip the weapon with the highest number. There is zero grinding.
>dogshit story
Can't argue with that.
Imagine if there were devs like KCD who even had a remote amount of sovl when producing games in these settings.
Problem is that non-europeans are just lowers souls and some euro would have to do the heavy lifting while having no personal connection to the history being portrayed.
I loved the "real" afterlife depicted in that expansion, part of me really wants a game set in historical egypt but with actual genuine supernatural elements that also dives into the religion and beliefs at the time.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind a Prince of Persia styled ancient Egyptian game either. POP had fantasy elements, and you can make up plenty of fantasy shit about ancient Egypt as well. Plenty of mythology to focus on like Apep
>origins
>only game without a database
how much of the game was made up bullshit?
>the game has accumulated 5 million players and estimated $250 million in revenue.[61]
i tried doing a playthrough of every game and gave up at unity (should have gave up after 2) also bought a bundle and the fricking Black folk at ubisoft and steam ripped me off by not sending me the verification codes you have to enter. serves me right
People who want more AC. It's not that difficult. Some genuinely like the series.
>who even buys these games?
>One of the best selling game series on the market
You are fricking moron.
>esg cheque
A sub 50 IQ moron at that.
This guy understands.
It's a shame Mirage was a glorified stand alone DLC episode for Valhalla, that shamelessly didn't even try to hide it.
Who actually likes Valhalla in general, though? There's nothing people outright praise about it.
Me
this guy
One thing it unabashed fixed was going back from loot galore of Odyssey to look being far rare and actually mattering again.
I prefer the loot system in Odyssey. There's not enough materials in Valhalla to upgrade all of your equipment to the max without heavy grinding, meanwhile if you use the NG+ system in Odyssey you can easily max out all the legendary gear to level 99 because it always scales to your level. Valhalla's grind is why everyone just upgrades the default equipment and rolls with that for their entire playthrough.
>There's not enough materials in Valhalla to upgrade all of your equipment to the max without heavy grinding
Why do you need to max out all your equips? Valhalla doesn't have "builds", you don't need to max more than like a handful of weapons and armor pieces and the game gives you way more than enough to max out at least two or three armor sets and 2 weapons in each category even if you're not doing a 100% run. They even added the ability to get back every material you threw into upgrading an item for little or no cost so it's not like resources matter anymore. Just pull materials from an equip and slap it on another if you want to prioritize that.
The Diablo Loot in Odyssey is complete trash because
>It forces builds (Something an AC game should never ever have).
>It forces you to get Epics with good stats which is complete RNG because the Legendaries are objectively worse unless they're weapons due to the missing passive and the fact that you can just slap their full set effect onto a single item's engraving slot.
>It forces you to play the "Sort items and sell things to vendors" game every few hours because of the volume of drops you get.
>Upgrading equips costs an arm and a leg if you aren't keeping it in parity with yourself every single level up.
2 levels of difference is already a massive amount of materials to upgrade an equip and 3 levels or more of difference is the max amount of materials required to upgrade something to level parity which is an absurd amount if you aren't rushing to a blacksmith every single time you level. Until you reach level 91 you don't even get the max amount of material drops from wood, stone, etc.
Runes alone are a massive step in the right direction from the Diablo Loot, and a weapon with like three to five upgrades is more or less viable even on the hardest difficulty so you don't even need to max it
It also fixed enemy variety, instead of 5 you have 25 of them
It also fixed hidden blade assassinations, level doesn't matter now
It also fixed boring combat loop that's spamming skills 25 times in every encounter
It also fixed assassin, hunter, warrior damage shit, Eivor is jack-of-all trades just like every other assassin character
It also fixed level and grinding shit, only RPG AC game that allows you to go against high level enemies, impossible to win against enemies 3 levels higher than you in others
It's also the only AC game with a good modern day plot since 3
Valhalla is the best AC RPG game.
my problem is I'm just burned out on the series
>Some genuinely like the series.
This is what I cannot comprehend. What is there to like about it?
>>What is there to like about it?
>Kingdom Hearts level Modern Day story.
>The Templar vs. Assassin story is interesting and it's fun to see who in history was or wasn't one.
>Virtual tourism of various periods of time.
>Characters are usually interesting and you want to see their story through.
>The Hidden Blade is cool and so are the robes.
>Always a bunch of variety in the game in what you can do.
>It's fun to sneak around stabbing people.
>Each game is a 40-60+ hour experience if you go for 100%.
They're good $20-$40 games. Never pay full price for an AC game. t. 100%ed every single one except Mirage since the Deluxe Edition still hasn't dropped to $30.
Wrath of the Druids is how the main story quests should have been done because you actually care about the characters. The map is nice, there's a Dark Souls boss in it, and Gae Bolg is the most overpowered weapon in the entire game.
Siege of Paris is a lot like old AC main story missions. The map is great though the story is kind of "meh", Plague of Rats is easily one of the best skills in the entire game, but everything else is more or less pointless or boring especially the grind to buy out the rebel's shop.
Dawn of Ragnarok is just boring. Boring boring boring. None of the items you get from it are good, the main story is beyond boring and awful, the boss fights are okay, the areas are nothing special and it's just more of the same Asgard content, Havi pulls a Gears of War 5 during a "serious" moment and it's hilarious, and the arena isn't fun because you are required to use a bunch of debuffs to get any points at all which makes fights boring and take forever. Some of them also nerf you so much that you deal nothing to the bosses and are borderline impossible (Like the unarmed ones) on anything but the lowest difficulties because you deal like 2 damage while they two tap you.
Name me one other game set in Abbasid Baghdad. You literally can't. Say what you want about Ubisoft but there is a market for historical games and no one else tries to do it. Whenever they do it it's either heavily fantasy version of it like Nioh or God of War or they are using ''safe/pop'' historical settings like Japan(Ghost of Tsushima).
It really sucks that the other side of the cook for historical games is just hyper autistic strategy or 4X games. So you either play Ubisoft games or those without there really being a middle ground. I guess it's because market research says most gamers are morons so I doubt people think historical stuff is very lucrative
Is any of the Valhalla DLC worth it? All the season pass shit for this games is always mixed on steam and I assume because people have sunk cost after dropping 120+ dollars on a game
Druids is good. Paris is even better than the main game(sadly you can't frick Toka). Haven't played Ragnarok DLC.
Also if you are getting Druids don't forget to buy celtic hair. I literally forgot that you could buy hair styles from merchants and only noticed it after finishing almost everything.
gay how every hairstyle they let you have is Hollywood viking
AC2 and the sequels were the only good games in the series.
It's fast food equivalent, might as well ask who buys CoD or FIFA.
Normoid NPCs buy whatever slop comes out with the latest "realistic" graphics.
I do, although I haven't bought Mirage because it doesn't interest me. I've bought and played every mainstream title, and got the season pass content for both Origins and Odyssey. I've done three 100% playthroughs of Origins and stopped playing near the end of a fourth one. I've done three high 90% playthroughs of Odyssey (NG+ helps so much with getting all the legendary gear up to level 99) and I'm planning on going through all the DLC for one final true 100% playthrough now that I have the season pass, which I bought last year. I've got about ~90% of Valhalla's base game done and have no interest in any of the DLC. I'm looking forward to AC Red, but Valhalla was pretty buggy at launch and ultimately mediocre so I'm planning on waiting until the base game is 30% off ($50) before buying it, if I'm interested. Of the AssCreed DLC I've played I think Curse of the Pharaohs was the only one worth a damn.
they're actually okay games with amazing settings. the settings are what carry the franchise.
the reason everyone hates ubisoft is the predatory monetization, forced drm, always online, telemetry, etc.
it's fine to play them after a few years they're out though.
right now you can get odyssey with all dlcs and content at <15$ which also includes AC 3 remastered, AC liberation remastered, and discovery tour ancient greece.
it's a pretty good deal if you ask me.
what you need to do to enjoy them is not play every single one, just pick the ones with the settings you like, or you're gonna get burned out very fast.
The normiest of normgroids. People with no internal monologue who don't understand hypotheticals and can't imagine an apple.
my brother unironically loves the AC games.
Gaming "culture" moves quick and giant companies can't pivot fast enough. People were saying they wanted a "classic" AC game since odyssey was unveiled, ubishit heard this eventually but it took them until 2023 to get it out the door when it really should have released right after Valhalla or even at the same time if it wanted any hope of being successful
>who even buys these games?
Me, just an hour ago, because I found it for $15 and I like the historical environment wank from this franchise.
RPG mechanics don't belong in assassins creed games, they should lean into being immersive sims and historical fiction. Play more like Deus Ex, the thing they should have expanded on are the social elements not making the combat deeper. Assassins using social tricks to get past guards are an obvious way forward for the game but it doesn't pull in as many zoomers with flashy combat (the worst part of AC1)
>Liked 1
>Loved 2 (didn't play the sequels to 2)
>Disliked 3
>Liked Blackflag
>Liked Unity
>Didn't play anything else until Odyssey, liked it, somewhat
Why did they do it, why did they cram RPG elements into AC?
Before, it was actual strategy and making sure you didn't frick shit up. Now, it's all about numbers, dps, upgrades, spells, skills, grind, farm, etc,. I'm not going to pretend there weren't some RPG elements in the past, but now it's outrageous how... diluted the franchise feels.
I used to play the AC games so I could visit places from the past, I greatly enjoy doing so, but all this kuhrazy shit, I don't know.
>why did they cram RPG elements into AC?
same reason why they crammed ship combat before, people were getting tired of just stabbing people off the rooftops
>why did they cram RPG elements into AC?
AC games were having an identity crisis and one of the most common complaints about AC games was how easy they were and their combat. Obviously Unity fixed this but Unity also completely bombed so they viewed everything about that as poison until people during Odyssey's released got so vocal that even Yves had to respond that people like Unity. I think that gave Ubisoft a reality check because they immediately did an about face and started toning down the RPG mechanics in Valhalla and Mirage, and Red is apparently going to lean more towards Valhalla with more stealth than Odyssey thankfully.
Unity and Syndicate being widely hated at the time forced them to reboot the series with Origins by changing up combat and mechanics, and Origins ended up being one of the best selling games in the series so they followed through with it. Nowadays people just complain about the system and the grind so they're starting to pivot away from it more or less. Jade is seemingly the only thing sort of sticking to what Odyssey did and even it seems like it's doing that more for mobile game milking purposes than them thinking it's a good idea.
most of Ganker are absolute buttbawds for AAA slop
you'll get loads of excuses
>i had to buy it because my discord friends did!
>i played it but i hated it so that makes it okay
>it sucked, but for $70 (and the $843 of microtransactions) it really wasn't too bad of a deal
>i got it as a gift! i swear!
>i only bought it because e-celeb #379 made a cameo!
>the main girl is so cute! she's e-celeb #379's IRL gf you know
even redditors are more principled than you guys