Who is the current king of MMOs?

And why?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    swtor because it has cute chiss in it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Swtor is the best mmo because its a singleplayer game.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Twitch numbers
    Zoomer moment

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What other indicators do we have to showcase a live metric of popularity?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        there isn't any
        ffxivgays have always been in denial

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The only reason wow is so high up is because all the streamers are doing it for twitch drops
          Once the feldrake promotion is over the numbers are going to tank again
          Also asmon is streaming it and he's 60k viewers alone

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            speaking of asmon is that gay playing a character where he acts moronic and whines like a little b***h or is that actually him? I saw a video of him reacting to something (cant rememebr lol) and he just cried for like 10 minutes.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              A character for the most part because your average twitch viewer eats that shit up.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              he's playing a character, he streams on another account and acts like a normal person

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >like a normal person
                >10 minute rants about why people hating titty streamers are just like the modern day witch huts
                he's moronic. He's simply moronic but with inflections in his voice in the main channel

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >>10 minute rants about why people hating titty streamers are just like the modern day witch huts

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >cries when people make fun of him and goes on banning sprees when people don't agree with him
                >acts like a normal person
                His "acting" needs work

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Frick you. FFXIV has likely double or even triple the players WoW had and it's not even up for debate.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Source: It was revealed to me in a dream

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Exquisite bait. Have a (You)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Earning calls?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Mmo players tend to be older, my ff14 guild was about 36 on average .Zoomers/kids are more into competitive fotm. Boomers dont watch twitch.
        Just look at player numbers, if any are out there.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Zoomers/kids are more into competitive fotm. Boomers dont watch twitch
          No zoomer has ever played world of worlocraft, it’s all boomers in their containment zone

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >use a number of people currently watching someone else play a game indicates how many people are playing it
        What kind of brainworms do you have to have to come to this conclusion

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >What other indicators do we have to showcase a live metric of popularity?
        if I play it or not
        that's the only metric I need to know if a game is popular or not
        and if I like the game it's good, if I don't like it, it's bad

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How long it takes to pop a queue. 24 mans in XIV are currently taking 18 minutes as DPS in EU. Which was pretty much instant about 6 months ago.
        There's still a lot of people in Limsa though, so numbers I'd say are stable. A good amount of people, using it as their chat room.
        WoW seems to be picking up in numbers, but that's to be expected given the next expansion is around the corner. Is removing content enough to save WoW? Maybe... It looks promising so far, but we'll see.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Almost like dps is the most popular role and reset happened several hours ago. So theres less people doing roulettes

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            DPS is the fastest queue for Ally raids, and people are going to need coins for 6.3 gear. The point stands.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Twitch numbers are a shit metric cause the game doesn't matter. Only the creator does.
        Asmongloid gets 50k+ viewers on World of Warcraft but he also gets 50k viewers streaming dead shit like New World. People watch the streams for the streamer and not the shit they get paid to play.
        RIght now we will see many people stream WoW because Blizzard enables drops but they also pay streamers to give their game attention. Riot is doing that shit constantly with their titles too.
        If the top 10 streamers of twitch all decide to stream fricking Ultima Online for some reason does that automatically make Ultima Online the most popular MMO ever? Of course not - Assuming that would be stupid. Fricking Final Fantasy XI was a top watched game on Twitch some time ago all because Ninja streamed it for a bit playing on his private server.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          literally the biggest cope of all time, asmon used to be a nobody but his channel got big because every other big wow streamer left, the game makes the streamer

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Damn, can't believe XIV made Asmon

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >made over $30k in a single stream of XIV
              I fricking hate zoomers so much.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              he makes more than that from wow streames moronic newbie

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He makes about 1/10 of that with wow streams. He admitted it himself last July in his stream.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            WoW has nothing to do with that. People watch Assmongloid because he is a disgusting neckbeard who has literal wienerroaches feasting on his toes. Watching him shittalk others and living like a neckbeard is the entertaining part. Nobody cares about the shit that he is playing while doing so. Asmongold could stream Barbies Island Festival and he would get tens of thousands of viewers.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Are people still watching him? He seems pretty washed up now.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Less but mostly because he is streaming on his dead alt-channel.

                He claims that he is doing that because he "can't put up with the stress" but apparently thats a lie and he is actually negotiating with Twitch for a better cut/contract and currently only streaming on his not-monetized alt-channel because it loses Twitch money in the process.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >currently only streaming on his not-monetized alt-channel because it loses Twitch money in the process
                actually based

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >only streaming on his not-monetized alt-channel because it loses Twitch money in the process.
                Well shit, maybe I was wrong about Asmongold.
                Might give him a watch.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yes dood wow is still the best game ever

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                WHAT THE FRICK

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, finally a McConnel face reveal

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          well it's which numbers you're looking at and for what purpose that determines how good they are as metrics. the ratio of viewers to streamers is also an important metric. all the numbers matter in some way. for example, genshin impact is moderately popular with fairly consistent viewership, but it has no dominant channels, its viewership is well distributed across many streamers, most of whom are not solely genshin streamers, which reflects its organic popularity across a large swath of people. it's just unfortunate that the default sort order for twitch is concurrent viewers

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's still reflective of how entertaining the game is to watch. Alot of people are interested in the state of WoW as they'd rather watch a frickup then play it, but its more reflective of the size of other communities too. Why do you think OSRS has consistently had 2-3x the amount of viewers than FF14 despite being a browser point and click game? FF14's UI is a visual clusterfrick that is miserable to watch (and play) whilst people enjoy watching and playing OSRS so people have generated a community around OSRS.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            That's only half-true. A game doesn't need to be entertaining to watch - It needs to give the streamer content that he uses to entertain people.

            Casino shit gets tone of views because people love seeing their favorite streamer lose or win massive amounts of money but the "gameplay" in that case is just pressing buttons.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How many players it has?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not Twitch viewership, that's for certain. If a game is good people would rather play than watch.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you care? The best games are mostly on the bottom of twitch AND steamcharts.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Twitch numbers are not a metric of the quality of games. They are a metric of
        >amount of advertising the game receives (I will add bot viewers to this metric for brevity's sake)
        >number of huge streamers currently playing the game (viewers will watch streamers play mostly any game really)
        >how much people like the idea of playing the game versus actually playing it (i.e. high risk games like tarkov, long-commitment games like mobas)
        >how likely it is for a "huge moment" to happen and for them to experience it first-hand (i.e. gambling streams, competitive games)
        >number of benefits on receives from watching the stream (i.e. during twitchdrop events)
        Popular games on twitch are first and foremost entertaining to watch, not exactly entertaining to play. Streamerbait games like Dead by Daylight or Getting Over It are popular for these reasons.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Remember when Asmon was playing FF for like a week and twitch numbers were suddenly the de facto metric?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Who?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What other indicators do we have to showcase a live metric of popularity?

        twitch numbers are, and always will be a shit metric because there's a small number of streamers who can skew any game just by playing it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This. There was a thread about GoW:R and how it had 300k+ viewers, so I checked out the viewership and 5-7 streamers had 20k+ viewers and the rest were 1-2k and hundreds of 50-100 viewer streamers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure Roblox has like 3k views on twitch but like 50+ million daily players so yea twitch views is a fricking moronic metric

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Delete this FFXIV trannies don't like you bringing up the past.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      barry has nothing else in life but twitch numbers

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Even google trends would be a better metric. The fact that one or two big streamers can inflate the numbers makes it unreliable, just like

      This. There was a thread about GoW:R and how it had 300k+ viewers, so I checked out the viewership and 5-7 streamers had 20k+ viewers and the rest were 1-2k and hundreds of 50-100 viewer streamers.

      said.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      nobody plays ff14 or cares to watch it be played like all the other big multiplayer games

      ff14trannies are eternally on suicide watch

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >watching someone else playing a MMO
    do people really?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand it either, paint drying sounds more engaging
      I asked someone about it and apparently a good chunk of them aren't even doing shit worth watching, just daily shit and some grinds, that's it

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    NO NO NO NO FRICK 14SISTERS DONT LOOK AHHHHHH

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >mmos in 2022
    >world of goyslop, in twenty fricking twenty two
    oy vey goyim! make sure you eat your slop before bed!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You need to go back

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I will most assuredly NOT 'go black'.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      oh nonoNONONONONONO

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >you could show actual dialogue and people will see how bad the writing is
      >yet Gankerirgins still insist on showing fake ones
      why waste the effort?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      god this game looks like hot shit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it's totally fine and the "new" race is totally not recycled models that can't even wear custom armor

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          why are the dragon heads so small?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >oh hey lets give the gamers a new race
            >something cool and unique? nah
            >heres your years old models, but this time they have horns
            >oh and heres a dragon form that LITERALLY nobody likes, and that has been getting hated on since its first teaser
            >have fun lel, thanks for the 60$

            Sorry, the Chad Dragons are too toxic to be playable.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I did fail at cropping, sorry.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That fricking hurts man, id 100% play a Drakonid warrior.
                Frick these devs, FRICK them, FRICKING c**tS.
                I heard they already said we're not getting them as allied races either.
                FRICK.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Problem, chud?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >oh hey lets give the gamers a new race
          >something cool and unique? nah
          >heres your years old models, but this time they have horns
          >oh and heres a dragon form that LITERALLY nobody likes, and that has been getting hated on since its first teaser
          >have fun lel, thanks for the 60$

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I don't even care about the recycled models. Nothing in the game looks aesthetically pleasing to begin with. Not a single armor or character from trailers, teasers, or gameplay footage made me want to play this ugly cartoon shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ahahaha holy frick, i was gonna question if this was real but then i remembered it was blizzard

      jesus christ, the absoloute state

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you're a moron if you've played WoW before and can't recognize it's a fake picture

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Man, you all get so triggered by this phrase it's borderline pathetic at this point

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      what is the context of this?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        He's from the black dragonflight.
        It's also a fake text.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I think the true damage isn't that the text is fake but that people wholesale believe it and don't question that Nu-Nu-Blizzard would do it.

          Imagine your companies' reputation being so low, so down in the dirt with the shit and piss, that something like

          >mmos in 2022
          >world of goyslop, in twenty fricking twenty two
          oy vey goyim! make sure you eat your slop before bed!

          is just taken at face value and believed unquestionably because the people "expect" you to do something that fricking stupid.

          Even the homosexuals who are going to buy the new wow expansion, not because they like it but because their addiction demands it, probably saw that image and said that "Ya it's probably real".

          Meanwhile we have real shit that's magnitudes worse. Expecting "nothing" from blizzard is giving them far too much credit to their names, you should expect worse every single time because they've got a track record of it at this point.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Meanwhile we have real shit that's magnitudes worse.
            Yup, I know. I leveled in Dragonflight beta. There are multiple quests based around relationships and NOT A SINGLE ONE is hetero. It's all gay/queer.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And yet you shill your gacha trash daily

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Um… what are you talking about anon?
        Did you reply to the wrong post?

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    People love to WATCH people play WoW.
    People love to PLAY FFXIV.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      neither of those statements are true and I wish you would die.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        people do love to watch people play wow. specifically they love to watch asmongold play wow

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          it has nothing to do with wow. wow is the most boring shit to watch.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >people do love to watch people play wow. specifically they love to watch asmongold play wow
          Nawe, I'm convinced it's just a thing people do because they've been doing it for so long. Sort of like how TF2 is almost unplayable now and no new talent is involved in it's scene.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >play
      >ff14
      You could savage raid with a guitar hero controller

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And yet a lot of people got FILTERED by P8S

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. So much this. I'm so TIRED of people saying wow has more players than FFXIV. Its so obviously untrue and stupid to say that. The only reason WoW has a higher Twitch audience is because nobody plays it or cares about it so they just watch how bad it is. Final Fantasys low twitch viewership is due to the majority of people too busy enjoying the game rather than watching. It's simple math.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Expecting any modicum of logic from a WoW player was your first mistake.

        Lets be honest, the majority of the games playerbase is children, and the only ones who aren't children are the mentally ill adults who are too addicted to quit.

        Most sane, normal, mentally healthy adults, who actually have standards, moved on to FFXIV ages ago. The game is just straight up superior in ever way, so why wouldn't they.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This. And it's a good thing. Final Fantasy 14 has easily triple the wow players and these twitch numbers are all bots. Thank you for bringing me some sanity. These past few days watching people say otherwise has had be shaking with anger.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed. And I literally say this as someone who played WoW for over a decade.

            The game was at the top once, but those days are long gone. Long long gone.

            Last time I played, all the cities and hubs would be borderline barren wastelands, queue times could range in the 30 mins to an hour sometimes, the entire game world is dead, none of the players actually talk or communicate outside of being toxic and kicking people and linking DPS meters in levelling dungeons, trade / general chat is a shadow of what it used to be, all the LFG tabs are just full of advertisement bots and boosting groups, bot farms plague almost every map you go on, the auction houses are dead and full of the same 10 people manipulating it, and the list honestly just keeps going.

            It is clear to anyone who isn't delusional that the game is dead as frick. But Blizzard have a good marketing budget, and that's all that matters for these brainlets.

            Its honestly just sad at this point. Just let the game die out with atleast a fraction of glory, instead of this slow and pathetic public withering.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              So true sister! It's so obvious final fantasy xiv (critically acclaimed and award winning game) has 20 million players while wow has at best? Maybe 10k

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Haha spoken like a true wow need.

                I think I need to spend more time on r/ffxiv because some of the posting here about wow having more players is starting to have an effect on my mental health.

                Glad to see people on this specific sub agree that the twitch numbers are a false alarm and FFXIV is still the number one game out right now. ^_^

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Your samegayging isn't fooling anyone

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You posted the character literally everyone who plays ff14 makes fun of for having a face made of three pixels on "stretch to fit" setting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I did, very good anon!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                ff14 won less awards than ff15 lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                that's because 15 is mega comfy ludo kino

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          theyre both bad but nobody plays xiv
          more people play fricking ff mobage than ffxiv

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >more people play fricking ff mobage than ffxiv
            That's true for all mmos. They're basically a dead genre at this point. Even peak wow couldn't compete with the top mobile shit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I see people on WoW everyday, yet I still hear people say nobody plays it anymore. I'm starting to think some anons are just lying to themselves and they secretly play WoW without telling anyone here because they don't want to be scrutinized.
      I mean, I don't care what MMO you play, just don't lie to me.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        of course people still play wow, but it's nowhere near the number it used to be

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        WoW isn't dead, it's just past it's prime and has aged a lot. Even if it has lost most than half it'sd playerbase i think they still have around1-2M active players.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Wait you can play FFXIV?

      I thought it was just for modding.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        thick slovenly lalas get me so goddamn hard

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I do both

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I do both

        post more hot potatoes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Can't wait to see the reverse of this when Asmongold or some other big streamer plays FF.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      is that why less than 1m people have even played endwalker?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >is that why less than 1m people have even played endwalker?
        [citation needed]

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Where is the source for this information? More "estimation" and reddit homosexualry? Never mind that this is for finishing Endwalker, not simply playing it.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Still king

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't even make it past character creation on an evoker. Dragonform looks moronic and weird, human form looks like a troony pride mascot

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >wowchuds resort to e-celeb dicksucking to attempt to prove their point
    embarrasing.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >twitch viewership is through the roof
    oh wow that must be a good sign for the game
    >drops enabled
    nvm

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Runescape

    btw FFXIV will win 2 goty awards this year again

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lost ark had 1.2 mil with drops on

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Lost Ark had 1.2 mil with drops on
      >It peaked around 1.3 mil on steam
      So it's safe to say that WoW prepatch has 300k live players

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      isn't Lost ark filled with bots?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah?
        Isn't wow filled with chink multiboxers?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          idk man, i don't play wow

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Just saying it's the same thing.
            Twitch metrics are shit and always will be shit.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Come home white man

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      your game is full of troon devs and you should feel ashamed

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They actually fired or forced out many of the troony types at anet

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ok, where is my wife?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        she is dead and is replaced by her moronic son

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Come home white man

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The only interaction I've had with Guild Wars is Asura porn and this video, and I think a bunch of reddit posts aren't really a good source to base opinion on.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Picked this back up after a 5 year break and have been having a lot of fun with it.

      I got a few friends to join in now that its on Steam and it is nice having an MMO where the leveling experience is actually fun and you can play together. With most other MMOs it seems like you are supposed to play solo for 75% of the game and only do raids/dungeons together.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Twitch numbers only matter when you game has an update or drops running at the moment. When the numbers decline it suddenly becomes a "shit metric".

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WoW lives matter.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    1. Wow is paying streamers to play WoW
    2. Twitch drops have people leaving WoW streams tabbed
    3. Twitch views can rapidly change just by having a popular streamer decide to play a game. When Asmon was playing XIV it shot above WoW.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >mods removing 14threads
    They fear us...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Today is WoW's day, animeBlack person!

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's just the flock of Blizz hopers flocking to check out the new product before they remember Blizz still sucks balls and they leave again.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can we compare to games on steam one of them have more current players played but less streaming views? While the other one has less current players played but have more people stream it?

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people still play WoW? Is it just Stockholm Syndrome and sunk cost at this point?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You pretty much hit the nail on the head, anon.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV is the better game in all aspects besides PvP
    WoW has the better content creators by a wide margin

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >in all aspects
      combat is worse
      leveling is worse
      class design is worse
      servers are worse
      loot/gearing system is worse

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >combat is worse
        Are there really boomers who unironically think WoW has good combat?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Can the WoWgays here tell me why XIV PVP is shit? I've played it myself and heard plenty of complaints from XIVgays, but I just wanna get a different point of view on it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Blizz copied their OW2 Push gamemode from FFXIV PVP
        You really cant make this shit up

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Awful tickrate ruins the mode

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >net code is ass
        >game mode is littered with cheaters because the cheat programs are client side and cannot be detected
        >dogshit balance
        >no reason to play casual after rewards obtained
        >no reason to play ranked because it is plagued with win trading and cheats that gate keep anything above the lowest skill tier

        Game mode is DOA and simply checks a box much like many other patch updates.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >no reason to play casual after rewards obtained

          I hate zoomers so much it's unreal bros. Zoomers will refuse to play a game unless it gives you some kind of prize.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'd play if the devs could sort out the cheating which defeats the entire purpose of the mode.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        that webm right there is a good example. some jobs get limit breaks that instantly kill half the team in the right situation, others get something that barely buffs their damage (black mage), or does alot of potential damage but is very easy to avoid (dragoon)

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Black mage was stupidly broken for a while in crystal conflict and DRG is the best melee only tied with NIN with how fricking strong its LB is to just team wipe.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Incredibly unbalanced job designs means some jobs just simply matter more. Movement still feels clunky and the server rate can frick you over.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The pvp is fine its a much better state than wow you can hop in and have fun immediately versus wow where you need to be a no life mae buck with ilvl 5000 with all your borrowed power bullshit and legendarys to even begin messing around in even the casual modes.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker shits on gow Ragnarok
    >gets btfo by normal humans with jobs who like it
    >Ganker shits on the dracthyr
    >everyone loves them
    >Ganker sucks off final fantasy
    >everyone jumps back on to wow
    LMAO will Ganker ever get anything right?
    Even cyberpunk is loved now after you idiots tried to tortanic it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >ow2
      >elden ring
      >etc.

      The list goes on. Face it, if Ganker likes your game it's either for degenerate losers or salty fricking virgins.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Ganker shits on the dracthyr
      >everyone loves them
      200k with drops enabled when Lost Shart had 1 mllion viewers on twitch KEK

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >>Ganker shits on the dracthyr
      loves them
      Dude. Even the most mazed WoW player think the model of the dracthyr is weird as hell. People may like the class but only scalies like the way the race looks.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >>Ganker shits on how Ragnarok
      They only shit on Gravity milking the series with a million different sequels and mobile games no one asked for
      >>gets btfo by normal humans with jobs who like it
      What fricking normie has the time to play RO outside of high-rate servers?

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I got an FFXIV account to 90 in all jobs and cleared multiple raid tiers only to realize I wasn't actually having fun with the game. There's no fricking content outside of raiding (which isn't fun if you know the fight, and getting a group of people who don't know the fight without having to teach the same goddamn lessons over and over is impossible) and a few scripted story quests with completely unengaging mechanics every three months or so - they're alright, yes, but you can get the same shit anywhere.

    I've started playing OSRS recently which is better, IMO - lot more breadth in the gameplay experience. I wish socializing was actually important to the core gameplay rather than everybody just ironmanning/using the GE and soloing all content until endgame, but at least in OSRS you can start a discussion based on the different ways in which you've built your accounts. In FFXIV? The only real variables are "what's your favorite job" and "how far are you in the MSQ", so it really may as well just be singleplayer - and singleplayer in the sense of a cinematic Sony game, not Runescape, which is more singleplayer in the sense of a metroidvania that admittedly has Cookie Clicker elements.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I got an FFXIV account to 90 in all jobs and cleared multiple raid tiers only to realize I wasn't actually having fun with the game.
      serious question, how the frick is this possible?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Mental illness or they’re a liar

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Sunk cost.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          sunk cost implies that you at least like the game at the start

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I got an FFXIV account to 90 in all jobs and cleared multiple raid tiers only to realize I wasn't actually having fun with the game.
      I feel like there are a boatload of people that are in this position but are in denial about it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        more like raiders intentionally make the game not fun just so they can raid and then realize it was pointless

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been playing the same dungeons/raids for months.
      >I cleared the content I wanted to clear.
      >Now I can't do anything but keep doing it because there's nothing else to do
      >Gee, why am I not having fun?
      Yoshi P said it himself, you don't want to keep playing, then just stop and come back later if you want. It's not like WoW where just a month without playing puts you hopelessly behind the competitive autists in the grind, and has no other incentives to stay besides mythics, raids, PvP and furry ERP if you're into that.
      Disregarding Ganker, I started playing FF XIV and I'm taking my time and enjoying myself. I like the story, the dumb activities and just hanging around in the FC house, playing hide and seek and stuff. Will the time come when I'll get bored and stop playing? Absolutely. But by then I'll just quit and wait until it picks my interest again. It's not like there's some time gated arbitrary system keeping me chained to my character.
      My point is, going at any game, nay activity, with the WoW mentality and expecting not to get burned out is moronic. I'll just say, had you actually found the game boring before hitting 90 on multiple jobs only show that the game did a good job in keeping you entertained until then. That or you're a completionist autist with zero willpower and your opinion shouldn't be heard.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Playing a subscription fee to play hide and seek with other grown men in a virtual house.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the idea of doing silly social shit in an mmo that alien to you?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Idk in wow I'm in discord with my guild every week doing cool raids and shit not playing footsie at the fountain lmao go outside

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              just sounds like you're mad that people like doing things you dont like bud.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Idk man I feel like running around with other dudes going "ttehee I got you" and paying 12.99 + tip a month for it appeals to a certain group of folk.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >why yes, i don't have any friends, how could you tell?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Tends to be dnd nerds and women in my expirience.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                "Women"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yes, them too. but women also.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Keep telling yourself that lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                haha wimmin arnt on the interwebs , borgir updoot pls.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If you finished all the content that you were intested then just stop playing and resub when they add something that catchs you eye. This isn't hard, no need to have a life crisis and even less need to talk about how the game isn't good because it don't only focus on things you find fun.
        People need to stop with this idea that MMOs need to be the kind of game you can play everyday, 4 hours per day for the rest of your life. That is how you get borrowed power grinds.

        Fricking this. FFXIV isn’t supposed to be your “main” game like WoW, League, etc. are. It’s a side hoe that you flirt with on the weekends in between playing real games. FFXIV isn’t serious. It’s a playground with story and some light endgame and that’s it. FFXIV has way more in common with shit like visual novels that you pick up and put back down. That’s how it was designed to be, that’s how the director wants you to think, and that’s how we LIKE it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Close but not quiet, xiv has extensive amounts of sidecontent both casual and hardcore, just neither of them are designed to be grinded out ad infinum. its perfectly fine to have xiv be your main game, but its not something you can do for more than 2-3 years once the content dries up.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off. I'm sorry, frick right off with this "it's designed to let you leave when you want!" bullshit. Spoken like someone who hasn't experienced the agony of endgame gearing.

          >Decide to hop on and do weekly Savage raids
          >Only a single roll allowed per fight per week
          >7 other people to roll against, nobody ever passes since they know nobody else will
          >Go 8 fricking weeks without winning a chest coffer.
          >Congratulations!
          >Rewarded with a single chestpiece for one job for 8 weeks of work because lolrng
          >If you wait even half the week before going in for reclears your chances of actually clearing diminish severely as the shitters are the only ones still trying.
          >If you have shit luck on the Weapon/Chest coffers dropped by the final fight you're looking at *16 WEEKS* of clears before you're BiS on a single job.

          The game may be designed to "come back later" when it comes to the story, but literally every single bit of content from the Island Sanctuary to Savage raiding punishes you for missing even a single week. I'm currently grinding for BiS on SCH for the next Ultimate coming up, and we're legitimately concerned I might not have my weapon/chest in the next 10 weeks because my RNG for rolls has been notoriously garbage. Think about that for even a second; I'm concerned that I might not have enough time with 10 FRICKING WEEKS ahead of me to just get TWO pieces of gear. That's fricking insane, and something I'd expect from an MMO 10 years ago when CBT was the norm. The fact that this archaic loot system is still in the game is an outright insult to the playerbase.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You know we're comparing this to wow right? Xivs BiS system is drastically simpler to manage and calculate and quicker to achieve.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It doesn't matter what we're comparing it to. The person I replied to said it was "designed" to let you come and go as you please, and it blatantly isn't in almost every aspect of the game. Hell, even it's weekly tomestone caps are oppressive, since you need two weeks to get a chest/pant piece, meaning even a single week missed is another tacked on for that *single* piece of BiS gear. It doesn't matter if it's better than WoW's; it's still utterly garbage for anyone familiar with it.

              Maybe stop doing it in PF like a moron

              I've been in five different statics since Eden's Verse. They've all been significantly more of a headache to play with than just PFing, and if the solution to XIV's shit gearing system is to just have people funnel it to you, that doesn't make it look any better.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Do the most hardcore content the game has to offer, wich 90% don't do
              >complain that isn't easy and acessible to everyone
              I do agree that the loot system could be improved it's still miles better than other MMOs. Take whatever you want from this.

              Okay look, I’m one of /ourguys/, I support FFXIV, I love this game to death and it’s so much better than WoW, etc. But…these posts don’t fit in with our narrative.

              >most people don’t do savage
              But if you don’t do Savage, you run out of stuff to do quickly…not a good argument for our side…

              >our treadmill is still better than their treadmill
              The successful shill tactic is to say that we DON’T have a treadmill, at all. Say that it’s one hour a week at most and that they don’t have to play outside of that. Uh, you can also say stuff like “BiS is irrelevant”, which I’ve seen among normies pulling the ilevel 610 cope. That way you never need to gear up before a fight. Now, what the purpose of gear drops is then, I have no clue. To save gil, I suppose? That’s a part of our shill tactic that needs refining.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The successful shill tactic is to say that we DON’T have a treadmill, at all.
                Every game has a treadmill in one way or another, some are just better at disguising it. The selling point of FFXIV is that the entire game doesn't revolve around a treadmill and it isn't as opressive as in games like WoW or Lost Ark were falling off means extra grinding to compensate.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe stop doing it in PF like a moron

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Do the most hardcore content the game has to offer, wich 90% don't do
            >complain that isn't easy and acessible to everyone
            I do agree that the loot system could be improved it's still miles better than other MMOs. Take whatever you want from this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you finished all the content that you were intested then just stop playing and resub when they add something that catchs you eye. This isn't hard, no need to have a life crisis and even less need to talk about how the game isn't good because it don't only focus on things you find fun.
      People need to stop with this idea that MMOs need to be the kind of game you can play everyday, 4 hours per day for the rest of your life. That is how you get borrowed power grinds.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >got an FFXIV account to 90 in all jobs and cleared multiple raid tiers only to realize I wasn't actually having fun

      This type of post will never not crack me up.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I've been trying to max jobs and a lot feel the same in how they play. But I don't really know how you could even make them feel different without breaking them.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I need a name a s a p please

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I got an FFXIV account to 90 in all jobs and cleared multiple raid tiers only to realize I wasn't actually having fun with the game.
      I agree with this, but mainly because the new 2 minute meta-design for the jobs is unfun cancer

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    didnt the dragon expansion just released?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No, but the "phase 2 of pre-patch" started yesterday. People who bought the exp can level their nu-dragons. Full release on 28th I think.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There has only been one king all along!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cool animation though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Thank god this is a parody and doesnt actually exist haha…

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FF14 has non woke devs and better casual content.
    Dogshit hardcore endgame content tho, raiding and ultimates ? no thanks, raiding is aids.

    WoW has better gameplay in general, terrible casual content, homosexual sjw Black person woke devs
    but the best endgame content you can do in an MMO, best pvp, and M+, if you're a homosexual you can raid there too.

    Both have pros and cons, if FF played better and had m+ it would win imo, but with the way classes work there m+ would be unfun.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >FF14 has non woke devs
      Not after what happened with FF16.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Im out of touch, not a ff fan, just played 14 because friends told me to give it a shot.
        There isn't any woke homosexualry in there afaik.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          FF16 is being made by the same studio that makes FF14 and there was a little issue a week ago that might make them reconsider how not-woke they are going forward.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The only people I see caring about this is Ganker.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              then why come back here?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The game is 95% done. They're just polishing and bug fixing now. They aren't going to make major changes to the story or cast this late.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Japanese devs caring about the opnion of gaijins
            lol, lmao even

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >that might make them

            So you're speaking out of your own arse, gotcha

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ff14 localization lead is literally woke

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >People watch wow played
    >People play xiv

    Huh

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Now let's wait a month and see how many people are watching Wow when it isn't the day after an expansion.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It is not the day after expansion.
      This is a PR move to generate hype. PhAsE 2 of PrE-pAtCh.
      Blizzard even is reusing the TCG loot as Twitch drops. This is the only reason for the numbers - bribery.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who wants to make a new vulpera and RP with me?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kys

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WoW is giving away shit you used to have to buy thousands of dollars worth of trading cards to get. For free. Just for watching twitch. That's where they're at right now.

    I won't go back because the new expansion seems like it has no features. They fricked up all of the systems since Pandaria, but instead of fixing it, they're just not doing anything beyond the bog standard new dungeons/zones/raid

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Good choice, breaking the cycle is the only right way.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > talent trees
      > crafting overhaul
      > zero borrowed power
      This new expansion is literally MoP remastered.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        MoP minus the good story + Nu-internet era

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's the opposite of MoP in terms of class design. There's too few abilities. Depending on your class it might be good or bad, good for shamans since they don't need 3 separate keyboards like in MoP.
        They are still holding some stuff back artificially like the set reforge being timegated for 6 weeks, not everything being account-wide, etc.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lol have you seen outlaw rogue or enhancement? You don't know what you are talking about.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I do main enh, and have been in MoP too (I'm never forgiving them for changing Stormblast animation), so yeah.
            Depending on the build you can run out of stuff to press pretty easily. Even with hekili playing the game for you you'll have periods of time when it will not suggest anything.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              If you are using hekili you don't know what you are doing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                If your skill is as high as your understanding of the English language I have bad news for you.
                Surely you were an expert the moment you laid your eyes on the prepatch and are able to play flawlessly 100% of the time, lmao.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Features that are introduced to the game should remain in the game forever. That's the design principle Blizzard should be sticking to.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >WoW is giving away shit you used to have to buy thousands of dollars worth of trading cards to get. For free. Just for watching twitch. That's where they're at right now
      Levels of desperation ive never seen before within a company the size of Blizzard.

      Its sad honestly.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Or it's just modern marketing? The state of this board...

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Acts of desperation =/= Marketing
          The absolute state of zoomers

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'd probably say it goes
    XIV
    WoW
    OSRS
    GW2
    Tossup between ESO or Lost Ark

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >WoW fans watch WoW
    >XIV fans play XIV

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Play Wow, the furry MMO!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      based kutar_g enjoyer

      >Ganker shits on the dracthyr
      >everyone loves them
      200k with drops enabled when Lost Shart had 1 mllion viewers on twitch KEK

      loves them
      [citation needed]
      why would you like a recycled genderless warlock pet model with recycled male be/female hum ViSaGe models?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        look to who I'm replying anon

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you cited incorrectly

          I don't know but it's funny to see how badly people are starving for a genuinely good new MMO to play long term. You know it's bad when people were looking forward to Bless Online.
          Ashes of Creation, Riot MMO, Blue Protocol. You think the next generation of MMOs will deliver?

          they aren't, all they want is to go back(tm) to a time where it was a safe space, ironically, for neets to be neets online

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Normal days no drops, wow views hover around 25-30k on a good day and 10-15k on average day.
    since drop is enable for a rare mount and pet, i'd wager 200K is the closest well see to the live wow player count.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    OH NONONONONONONONNOO WOWSISTERS NOT LIKE THIS

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ppfffftt-AHAHAHAHAHAHA NO WAYY

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      XIV WON

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this cant be real....

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        shitty as WoW is you can't play it on Steam so it's always been 0

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >literally fricking 0
      Sisters…. I might ACK

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the WoWbucks have fled the thread

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know but it's funny to see how badly people are starving for a genuinely good new MMO to play long term. You know it's bad when people were looking forward to Bless Online.
    Ashes of Creation, Riot MMO, Blue Protocol. You think the next generation of MMOs will deliver?

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No one gives a shit about game genres that were only popular on Digg back in 2007

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you watch 4 hours of a stream you get a free pet. When the game drops youll get a mount and those numbers will skyrocket

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Been playing for years, over 6k hours in FFXIV. Have been saving raiding since late Stormblood, and cleared my first ultimate, DSR, on-content back in July. The game is going downhill, fast.

    The EW story was borderline incomprehensible with how many plotholes, dropped ideas, and awful filler stories there were. Don't even get me started about how despite the expansion being apparently the culmination of all before it, the end villain ends up being brand new to the expac, the dynamis concept is again, brand new to the expac (and directly fricks up the last expansion's post-game story,) and the only characters that are *ever* in any danger at all, are nameless or one-time NPCs. It's become a dating sim with how fricking invincible the main cast is and how often they try to play up the memes. Don't even get me started about Elpis and how fricking fan-service-y that was.

    I'm not going to speak to how WoW is fairing, because I'm not playing it. But what I *can* say is that this Savage tier was so bad, that most of the high-end players I know have basically dropped the game outside of 2-hour reclears on Tuesdays for WoW, to get something fresh.

    Hell, the last major patch introduced a SINGLE dungeon with some extra boss lines you can go through if you want lore, and an extremely short story where you get a weapon at the end. The devs are dropping the ball like a fricking free weight.

    And based on the fact that they're talking about "reworking" PLD, DRG, and AST in a similar vein to how they "reworked" SMN (they absolutely butchered a fun job and turned it into a particle effect spectacle so simple to play that someone made a one-button macro,) alongside the massive balance issues early on this tier, I'm not confident that the devs have any idea what they're doing at this point.

    You know it's bad when we were getting significantly better content in the middle of the COVID drawback. Like Jesus Christ, if you aren't some ERP goblin, the game is losing it's touch *fast.*

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > that most of the high-end players I know have basically dropped the game outside of 2-hour reclears on Tuesdays for WoW
      Good falseflag attempt, but don’t you have some gay frogs to be riding?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nah I'm with him. I've been playing since Shadowbringers and done most of the engaging content in the game. I attempted raiding first tier of EW and it felt as unfulfilling as wow raiding so I gave up before clearing Phase 2 of P4S.
        I think the game doesn't add enough content for casual players and the devs spend way too much time on making the raids and ultimates.
        They were able to get away with the whole "sorry for no content" during covid but if this continues into next expansion I'm expecting a huge dropoff.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >casual content
          Yes because WoW has so much of that

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oh don't get me wrong I think XIV has more "timeless" content. Eureka, Bozja, Triple Triad, leveling classes through the first time, island sanctuary before it became a spreadsheet simulator, and extreme and hildebrand storylines are all great the first time. But once you complete them there's no replayability to them.
            Wow has at least SOME replayability (low level M+ is very casual) and sometimes I just want to nuke some mobs and grind out a mount or meaningless rewards (I enjoyed Zereth mortis up until about 1/4 into revered)
            I think the XIV Devs are banking too much on the sheer amount of earlier content that players still have to clear through. But just like me, eventually most of those players will complete it, there will be ZERO content for them in game and they'll drop the game like I have (until the next expac) and I'd just like if the devs actually provided some meaningful and replayable content.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >do thousands of hours worth of content
              >wtf there’s no content, better go back to WoW and run the same exact dungeon I’ve run 100 times before, but now with 10% more mob health
              Moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                bet you think action games are bad because they're designed to be replayed, don't you zoom zoom?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You’re not supposed to put so much effort into bait.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >enjoy playing game for 1000s of hours
                >want more content not tailored to raidloggers cause game is good
                Nothing wrong with this

                >doesn't understand the concept of replayability
                The pot calling the kettle a Black person

                >Claims WoW has more replayable content
                WoW has…. mythic plus is genuinely the only thing outside of worthless world quests and raid logging that’s replayable

                Stop being a homosexual

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                1 is still greater than 0

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Roulettes
                >triple triad
                >gold saucer
                >beast tribes
                >relics
                That’s just off the top of my head stop being disingenuous, WoW lost

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Boring challengeless grinds. Remember when you had to use your brain in MMOs

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >boring challengeless grinds
                But enough about mythic plus
                t. pushed 20s week one of season 4

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry homosexual, not even M+ is a redeeming feature anymore. Literally half the rotation is recycled content LOL

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >roulettes
                pointless once everything is leveled, but basically the same thing as running dungeons in wow
                >triple triad
                This is an acceptable answer but not everyone plays mmos for card games
                >gold saucer
                Replayable but not meaningful in any capacity, you sit and wait every 15 minutes for 1 of 3 minigames for pennies
                >beast tribes
                Dailies in Wow
                >relics
                Once you've done one from each you've done them all and unfortunately grinding fates in XIV is less fun than grinding mobs in Wow. While this is definitely replayable AND meaningful its not a casual grind by any means, especially to obtain ALL of them.
                If anyone is being disingenuous its you.
                For the record, I think both games are shit for their own reasons, with XIV only being better cause the story isn't offensive

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >le XIV has no repeatable content while WoW has 1
                >ok, here’s some repeatable content, multiple forms
                >NOOOOOO IT DOESNT COUNT YOURE BEING DISINGENIOUS
                lol lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >wow has more casual replayable content
                >what about all these things that nobody gives a shit about?
                >+1
                I already accepted Wow is shit. Accept you have Yoshi-P's wiener in your mouth.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >P-please don’t talk about WoW badly
                >I think it’s shit too, I’m not bias
                Mindbroken

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >things that didn't happen
                Schizo

                the way WoWbucks talk bout XIV just makes me want to resub to it
                >think about XIV
                >remember all the fun i had doing the content
                >remember the collections
                >remember the character i was attached to
                >remember the story i was excited for
                >think about WoW
                >remember deserted queues
                >remember content as a full time job
                >remember raped lore
                >remember growing furgay cancer
                >all good memories are decades old and soiled by the new ones

                I have played maybe 100 hours of Wow in the last year.
                I have played at LEAST 1000 of XIV in the last year.
                Xiv is the better game. Nobody is debating that. But you can't deny that the whole "worthwhile" content they've added to EW is the raids and DSR. The criterion dungeon system and upcoming deep dungeon are a step in the right direction and if they continue supporting it I'll be happy but I shouldn't have had to wait a year for content that should have been in the game at launch.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon but i've always stood by the idea that the longer xiv goes on the better it is for newer players, the sheer amount of content you can run through for the first time just grows and grows and the game is great for that.
                when you're 3000+ hours deep however, and you've expirienced everything you want to expirience there isnt just that repetative value to keep you going, and i dont think retention systems are an inherently bad thing, i just think theres def a balance between what xiv does and what wow does.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for putting it that way for me. I was in love with XIV for years because of how much I was able to do but you're right, now that I've done mostly everything there's nothing left for me other than, like Yoshi says, just unsubbing and coming back later.
                Problem is I don't WANT to come back later. I just want to play now. Maybe I'm asking for too much.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                God you sound pathetic

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                ?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                the guy literally just expressed exasperation at wanting to play a social mmo but not finding much pve justification in doing so given extensive play, remembering games arent meant to be an infinity treadmill but still feeling that conditioning deep set in is pretty common. emotionally stunted much?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Because, whether you like it or not, FFXIV is the new MMO. He’ll be back. There’s no real alternative these days. FFXIV won and we all support that. Basically no one out there would choose WoW over it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That guy again.
                I never said I left.
                I stated how many hours I put into the game already.
                I know there's no real alternative, hence why I barely touched Wow in the last year.
                I have states several times XIV is the better game.
                I just want more content in the game to engage in with my friends that isn't Savage or Ultimate.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                the way WoWbucks talk bout XIV just makes me want to resub to it
                >think about XIV
                >remember all the fun i had doing the content
                >remember the collections
                >remember the character i was attached to
                >remember the story i was excited for
                >think about WoW
                >remember deserted queues
                >remember content as a full time job
                >remember raped lore
                >remember growing furgay cancer
                >all good memories are decades old and soiled by the new ones

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This person is currently subbed and is projecting an advanced form of cope.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What are you even talking about. Schizo

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This is basically everyone’s opinion. FFXIV is one of the most critically-acclaimed and beloved games of all time, while WoW is one of the most hated. There isn’t even a competition anymore. We ALL agree that FFXIV is the better game. It’s over.

                And when FFXIV has what kids call a “content drought”? We tell them to toughen up and get the frick over it. Life is hard, but the game itself is pretty flawless.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                wow is unironically too large and has too much content, it's overwhelming, that's why I prefer xiv

                about as subtle as a brick

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                stfu wowbuck

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                haha le funne false flag double down 😉

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                least schizophrenic wow player

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                triad
                >>gold saucer
                tribes

                it’s like saying farming invisible or tusks in wow is content, in that it’s technically true but you’re moronic if you do this

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >here’s some repeatable content
                >no that’s not REAL repeatable content
                Frick off

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Logging in and sitting in Limsa is repeatable anon
                Content that's repeatable is only noteworthy if its fulfilling and worthwhile for the player

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >mounts!
                >mogs!
                >cheevos!
                >alts!
                >dailies!
                >reps on all your 20 alts!
                omggg wow is winning so hard, 20 years of content!!!1

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >enjoy playing game for 1000s of hours
                >want more content not tailored to raidloggers cause game is good
                Nothing wrong with this

                >doesn't understand the concept of replayability
                The pot calling the kettle a Black person

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I wish I was kidding. Our #1 PLD in the World for DSR clears was just talking yesterday about getting through his characters "Trillers" or something on WoW. Spent the last week or so using some exploit with NPCs killing things around him to get all his classes to 50 prior to Dragonflight.

        All of them but myself are currently playing WoW more often than FFXIV now, with the exception of our BLM who is reprogging the tier as AST so he can fill for reclears if we need a regen.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This seems to be the sentiment even on the official xiv forums. Tell me, why does Ganker astroturf this game so hard when there are clear glaring problems as you've outlined?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Black person

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >japanese people at their best are incapable of making games as good as the worst american ones
      tale as old as time

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >twitch
    LMFAO. wow lost

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't Overwatch have like a million views for their twitch drops shit? Is wow so shit you have to brag about having a fraction of fricking Overwatch.
    Absolutely embarrassing that it's so low when 90% of the viewers are afk.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    World of Warcraft private servers, Turtle in particular

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >play World of Warcraft private server, Epsilon in particular.
      >It's filled with even MORE scalies, furries, trannies, homosexuals and degenerates than the retail game
      Sucks, I really enjoy some of the old lore of this game and had a lot of great times RPing but this game is really and truly fricking dead.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Turtle
      >Mods spy on your private chats and beat off to your rp
      pass.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    MMOs should go back to allowing full PvP in all areas and corpse looting. It was the entire appeal all along, and without it it's basically just a single player game with other people in it and shit gameplay.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WoWchads will NEVER stop winning!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      onions personified

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      remember bunny girls are nazis

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I threw my hands up in joy
      why?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I need to go rewatch his absolute meltdown where he equated bunny girls to nazis, got called out on it, and doubled down.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are they watching an mmo instead of playing it?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      for a free card mount

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    wtf you guys said the game was dead!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Is that a dragon orgy?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Wowbuck so broken he thinks this is impressive

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >WoW takes the launch of a new expansion and class starter zone to get the same level of player density that Limsa has every single day

        lmao cope

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Buck status: broken

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            troon status: dilated

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >uses troon as an insult when playing WoW
              Anon…

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >WoW takes the launch of a new expansion and class starter zone to get the same level of player density that Limsa has every single day

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >numbers manipulated through drops
    >worlo is bussin fr no cap on god

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >painted-on armor in 2022
    >the bucks eat it up

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How is that painted on?! It's very clearly 3D and looks amazing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It's very clearly 3D

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you're right it's not painted on, it's a halloween onesie.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >leveling in old zones in WoW
    >absolute ghost towns every single one, I’ll be lucky to see even one other player while questing
    >leveling in old XIV zones
    >frequently see other players of all different levels running around doing different things who are happy to help me if I need it
    Ya, I’m sticking with XIV

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you ever need help in ffxiv? You literally two tap every mob in between hours of shitty cutscenes

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I wanted to run through towards the teleport crystal in North Shroud but i kept getting murdered by the level 25 scorpions all along the path and I asked if someone could help and multiple people arrived in a couple seconds

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm sorry you can't use my potions they are painted on

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    UFF, FF XIIII chuddys destroyed.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Albion Online because it has the most active playerbase

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >one global server, tons of players everywhere
      >the only MMO with a working player-driven economy
      >no p2w cash shop items or gambling mechanics
      >no gold sellers and bots are banned within hours
      >perfect balance between solo and group play
      >frequent updates without content bloat
      >horizontal progression
      >runs on everything
      >full loot PvP
      >no cringe questing and handholding
      >tells you to go frick yourself after the tutorial
      Truly the best MMORPG in the world.

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I worked so fricking hard for my Warlock green fire title and artifact skins on my alts and it's all just dust in the wind now.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      wait, what is going on with the green fire title? I cyber bully my guild warlocks with it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing, it's just pointless to me because I don't play WoW anymore and have no intention of returning.

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ops post is outdated. FFXIV at a much healthier number now. Sorry wowbucks

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I really am impressed how Blizzard can frick up so massively and tank WoW's reputation continuously with no sign of things ever getting better and people still give a frick about it. Is it an entertaining trainwreck or are there really still this many people who actually care?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        same thing with league of legends, riot games fricks that game up every patch but everyone still plays it because dota just somehow manages to be even worse in every way

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The battle pass shit with Dota 2 is bafflingly israeli.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The one and only metric for them is money earned, and it is working beautifully.
        >World of Warcraft reach and engagement continues to benefit from the combination of the Modern game and Classic under a single subscription, and is on track to deliver its strongest engagement and net bookings outside of a Modern expansion year in a decade.
        >In a rare twist, Blizzard gained nearly 5 million monthly active users
        Their games are not designed for you, chud, but for maximizing profits of the shareholders.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm amazed trannies will abandon any semblance of progressiveness by giving the company with a Cosby suite money.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You shouldn't be, every group that's not white women only cares about itself

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              White women only care about themselves too what the frick are you talking about?

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >zivvies accuse wowies of having no one in game
    >wow player posts people in game
    >zivvies start malding and coping
    kekles

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      See

      OH NONONONONONONONNOO WOWSISTERS NOT LIKE THIS

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        coping and seething

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >literally 0 players
          Oh nonononononono

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          AHA, you claim I am coping and seething but it is in fact YOU who is coping and seething!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ?

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >WoW going down the shitter
    >ESO going down the shitter
    >FFXIV is shit
    >SWTOR may as well be dead
    Here i am just playing DDO while waiting for Ashes of Creation to release in a few years.

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We’re not allowed to like WoW. DF is a failure because it has LGBTQ, while FFXIV is the based and redpilled trad game. The WoW community has trannies and raidloggers, while FFXIV has grown heterosexual men. /wowg/ is filled with streamer crap, while /xivg/ has based online harassment and doxxing like real men.

    In short:
    >WoW = R*ddit
    >FFXIV = Ganker

    Any questions?

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://voca.ro/15DVd3xnkL5s

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that twitch viewer counts are faked by various wiki sites autoplaying twitch streams the moment you enter them. Anyone who has even one tab of wowhead open is a twitch viewer for WoW. This is how people like fextralife have hundreds of thousands of viewers despite being just awful.

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    wow is unironically too large and has too much content, it's overwhelming, that's why I prefer xiv

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, this isn’t supposed to be our line of attack. We say that FFXIV has MORE content than WoW because all WoW has is grinding and raidlogging. We’re supposed to list all the side content that FFXIV has. Did you not get the memo?

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I never heard the word scaly before this expansion. Game is absolutely full of fricking homosexuals these days.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Game is absolutely full of fricking homosexuals these days
      >these days

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do people actually play FFXIV?

    I thought it was just a meme.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why? It's white bread when it comes to the genre but it does what it should well so if you want a stable MMO it exists. Not like Guild Wars 2 will ever be relevant.

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really liked the variant dungeon, but at the same time it makes me wish that every dungeon was like that, which obviously will never happen because it's a lot more work than the usual hallway dungeon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Well, we're getting more of them in future. Just gotta be patient with these long-ass patch cycles.

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    blizzard's marketing department has been firing on all cylinders lately. they even tried to resuscitate hearthstone by sending 120 free packs to players.
    what's next, are they gonna revive HOTS?

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV is, without a doubt, the greatest game of all time. Not only does it have a ton of cool stuff like housing, card games, chocobo races, but it has so many OUTFITS! I can make my character like the woman I wish I was born as!

    Oh, and do you like microtransactions? Of course you do! Well, how about FAN-MADE microtransactions? With just $10, you can have your very own face sculpt! And you can even share mods with your friends! Doesn’t this look so beautiful? I love Final Fantasy XIV! Unlike WoW, which just has smelly homosexuals!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Please stop posting asiatic mods. God asiatics make the fricking worst faces.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >modbeast
      why are women like this?
      they do the same on the sims

  67. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV doesn't have a new expansion due out in a week or so.

    Both games are dull to watch, but modern WoW is a fricking joke of a game. Activision have completely destroyed Blizzard.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      FFXIV doesn't have an equivalent of Asmongold either.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        ffxiv doesn't have that poopsock elitist/ no-lifer culture that makes streamers like Asmongold popular.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          meanwhile wow world first raiders spending over 90 days clearing a xiv raid and having a blast.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            not hard to see why, i think wow raid bosses are more fun but the raiding experience itself is shit

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              completely fair take.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm kind of surprised people still ask for that after Tigole ruined the genre with demanded companies cater to them. The major issue with WoW was it's lack of content for casual players so I guess all that's left is poopsock no-lifers playing. XIV is way more casual but I'm enjoying it despite that. I don't feel like I have to prove anything anymore.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the most popular ff14 ever got was when wow streamers streamed it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >modern WoW
      Implying that somehow the game is actually, substantially different than it ever was? And even if you hated it, there’s the old version that anyone can play. Blizz literally gives you the option to play the old one. Stop whining.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        > Blizz literally gives you the option to play the old one.
        Classic is NOT original WoW. Not by a long shot.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Classic is NOT original WoW. Not by a long shot.
          True, it's better than the original.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Classic is better than original
            You disgust me.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not nostalgia-driven even though I played vanilla since its beta.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >People degenerate min-maxing and doing 3+ alt runs of... Naxx
            This is not the game I remember, and unlike vanilla and TBC. I have a very good relocation of how the game was back then. That's a community I want no fricking part of.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              So do I. Wiping in naxx because people were incredibly shit or even better: raiding MC with 4fps and 450ms. And by raiding i mean disconnecting on every pull.
              If you don't want to run sweaty raiding then join a casual guild.
              The beginning of classic vanilla is the best time I had in WoW.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Wiping in naxx
                I fricking cleared it in week 1 in levelling greens and a handful of blues. How can people be wiping to it a decade later?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You misunderstood. I mean that back in WotLK people were wiping in naxx, not to mention vanilla naxx which I was fortunate to do back then. Killed 3 bosses before TBC and it was a very painful experience because of how shit everyone and their computers/connections were.
                Classic versions are simply better because of the advancements in environment and #somechanges.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I want to agree with you, but the community has fricking ruined classic. Something about an easy game, and a solved meta turned it into the biggest fricking cesspool.
                Will be interesting to see what happens with Ulduar when the game started getting harder.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                My view might be spoiled by my guild, which I'd call "competent casuals". Most of us did play in vanilla/TBC, no WotLK babies lol.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'd happily argue vanilla-cata mop-legion and bfa-current are essentially distinct games.

  68. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    OH NO NO NO NO

  69. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Asmongold and Sodapoppin play WoW, woah

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      all the big streamers used to be WoW addicts. xqc, summit, shroud, lirik, etc.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, WoW used to be a massive game

  70. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who doesnt want to watch a trainwreck live

  71. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WoW is king.

  72. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really can't comprehend that ActiBlizzard were the biggest evil in gaming for about a week and after just paying people off and refusing to take responsibility are just back to making bank and the gaming public at large is back to buying their games and supporting them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What is virtue signaling?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        We really live in a consequence free world don't we?

  73. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    final fantasy is shit

  74. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    XIVsisters, new numbers are in... things aren't looking good

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >reddit
      >steam
      >twitch
      Why do zoomers only know how to use social media numbers to determine if they should be a sheep?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because to zoomers a person's worth is measured by how many followers they have

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because to zoomers a person's worth is measured by how many followers they have

        >NOOOOOOO STOP POSTING PROOF WOW IS MORE POPULAR STOP STOP STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPP

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        because zoomers are products

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It really is true, Blizzard could literally shovel shit down their throats and Blizzcucks will come back for a new expansion, every single time

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What do you think has been happening all this time? See

        Good choice, breaking the cycle is the only right way.

        , the latest incarnation skipped the x.3 phase altogether.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >got btfo in his own thread
      >runs to /wowg/
      >got btfo of /wowg/
      >crawl back here with hastly made pic
      It's like you get your high on being abused.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        xivtroon its not looking good

  75. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Streamers leave WoW because of the company scandals
    >"I'll never support a company that does this to their female employees!"
    >Blizzard offers same streamers money to play DF
    >"Well guys, I'm just gonna check the new expansion out. I'm still not supporting them..."
    Yikes

  76. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hate WoW troons so much it's unreal
    Fricking have a nice day the whole lot of you

  77. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Liquit is fricking dead lmfao

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Remember when the heckin wholesome ffxiv community conjured out of thin air that he was cheating because a wow raider was progressing on their sacred fights? That was a level of coping and seething unheard of.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >conjured
          >literally outed himself on stream
          huh?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Proof?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I could post you one of the dozens of videos going deep into the minutia of all the suspect shit he was doing but im sure that would just be toxic xiv players right?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >blind prog
          >very clearly not a blind prog

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Don't mate, he was cheating. It didn't matter than he was, but he kept making a big deal about how he was doing it "blind". It was a fricking laugh.

            See

            Proof?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >W-wait, I've got an idea.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >ok i just came up with this strat
              >it's just bilibili lions, the first result when googling for a strat for that fight
              >that time he showed "e2s strat" or whatever on his YT search history

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Don't mate, he was cheating. It didn't matter than he was, but he kept making a big deal about how he was doing it "blind". It was a fricking laugh.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >literally admitted to it on stream

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Proof. Should be something you can provide for these claims? I've searched and cannot find anything aside from the coping.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Why did he delete a vod if he claims his words were taken "out of context"
              Truly not suspicious

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              so with the base requirement being having half a step above fringe knowledge of how ffxiv raiding works, and then compare the progress of echo to limit.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This isn't proof. This is conjecture. Very heckin and wholesome.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Bro the guy said it outright, not that what he did was cheating the fight though, but he cheated his team who did want that blind experience, it was a dick move and the fact he initially lied about it was slimy as frick.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >ok i just came up with this strat
            >it's just bilibili lions, the first result when googling for a strat for that fight
            >that time he showed "e2s strat" or whatever on his YT search history

            I literally do not trust your community on these claims. Provide proof.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I watched this and is why I am asking the question. Also conjecture. You guys literally cannot provide proof lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >your community
                so you dont play xiv, so how can we explain to you how obvious it was? i can link you a vid going into it , but as you said, you dont trust the community, we are at an impasse of your own making.

                Like clockwork

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Its like doubting the mario autism speedrun community calling out that one blindfold speedrunner for doing shit that literally no other blindfolded runner was doing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I watched this
                Tell me about the swords then.
                Or the LB suspicions.
                Or the clouds.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >your community
              so you dont play xiv, so how can we explain to you how obvious it was? i can link you a vid going into it , but as you said, you dont trust the community, we are at an impasse of your own making.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                How is it an impasse of my own making when I am simply asking for proof that he cheated. Proof would be a de facto admission of guilt, addon use, etc. Not salty members of a fanatic community making analysis and pulling claims from thin air. Nobody has proof of the claim he cheated and the only proven fact is that the ffxiv community is full of people high on their own farts.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >addon use
                ??? do you even know what we are talking about here? what the frick

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Of course he doesn’t. Or actually yea he does and knows he’s wrong but is just shitposting

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                fair

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Liquit is fricking dead lmfao

      Is there a third horse for this expansion? Given there's a lot less hoops you have to jump through, it'd be nice to see some of the middle team raise to the top.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Liquit is fricking dead lmfao

      >Lost the world first race with a 16 hour headstart
      Max is such a frick up.

  78. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I support WoW because I support Trans Rights! Like all my fellow WoWbros!
    get lost chuds, this game is NOT for you!

  79. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Oh hey maybe World of Warcraft will be good after this expansion

  80. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Black Desert Online

  81. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Used to play XIV every weekend while getting drunk
    >Now do the same in VRChat instead
    XIV got superseded for me. I appreciate the way XIV does raids, but I much prefer the WoW combat and style of bossfight.

  82. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    everyone is watching the 1 person still playing WoW just to laugh at him
    meanwhile FFXIV chads are enjoying the story

  83. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I would rather play FFXIV or any game that is not Westernized.
    WoW breaks my immersion with its real life social problems put into the game. GW2 fell just like WoW too. Western games turned into Netflix adaptations with lame writers incorporating real life problems into art.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >real life social problems put into the game
      Mate...

  84. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Best model in the game
    I would stick my tongue so far up his butthole

  85. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who's spent many years on each one, they're both fricking garbage. It's incredibly depressing to see the mmo genre reduced to these two pieces of shit that barely even qualify as mmos. FFXIV is especially bad in this area; it's basically a single player jrpg at this point. It has absolutely none of the things that once defined mmos and wow is hard at work putting the last few nails in its own coffin by heading in that same direction.

  86. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Brutal mogging

  87. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    LMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  88. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing how much Blizzard exploited Twitch drops to make Overwatch 2 seem bigger than it is. I'm skeptical about all their games on twitch.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      wow has drops right now

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the absolute seething that happened when they announced they were giving out a TCG mount from twitch drops
        >MUH 3000 DOLLAR MOUNT
        almost made me want to give blizzard money just for the state of mountsmogscheevos autists

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Can't wait for them to do the spectral tiger and the chicken. They WILL do it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i spent 1.5 mil on my spec tiger lol

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Lots of the TCG items were duped, physical spectral tiger cards are approaching $8k.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                proof, back when i bought mine it was the only one on the ah, seems like a rumor

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Proof of what? The dupes? It was very server dependent due to inability of trading the items across servers.
                As for the physical cards - https://www.wowtcgloot.com/spectral_tiger.htm

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Giving away $3000 mounts
          >Still only getting 200k views
          Damn, wow is even more dead than I thought.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No mount is worth $3000

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That's what it was selling for on ebay before Blizz game them out for free. Whether or not it was actually worth that much is irrelevant.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            the mount isn't even available yet, it's just a stupid pet currently

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >give them money to spite neckbeards

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          sauce

  89. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lost Ark

  90. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ok... THAT is epic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that's the gayest shit i've seen all day
      was expecting the non-binary dragon to hit that yoinky sploinky when it jumped into the center of the room.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This really has nothing to do with WoW anymore at this point.
      You just know some lanky ass b***h working at Blizzard is creaming itself over le coolass dragons.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why are his spells so lame? People want dragons shooting fireballs, not magic missiles.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >t. darkness

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >even the fireballs are gay

  91. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  92. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i resubbed for wrath classic, theres just no better mmo, if there was id switch over

  93. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's still Asheron's Call, and it will always be Asheron's Call.
    https://emulator.ac/

  94. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    dqx, seriously... highly recommend you guys give it a try if you haven't, setting up translation take 15 minutes or so & works flawlessly.

    most fun I've had in an online game for years... that said, I am about 10 quests into HW in FFXIV & can't decide if I should continue or not, how good is it after ARR?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >how good is it after ARR?
      ARR is genuinely terrible compared to everything that comes after it.
      The worst part of FFIV is you have to slog through ARR to get to the actual cool stuff.

      If you’re already past ARR then you might as well keep on going unless you just stop having fun.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's an "Akhmon doesn't register the textboxes" episode
      More MMOs should have classes like Fortune Teller, even if everyone either runs ghetto Mage decks or Chariot decks.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A ton of people call HW one of the greatest Final Fantasy games of all time. That’s largely based on the story. So I recommend that you set auto-advance on, then just play another game on another monitor like you’re watching an anime. It’s basically like one anyway, there’s not much gameplay. And all of the gameplay you do have is solo. ARR has a lot of dungeons and NPCs that you have to walk around and interact with, while HW is much more in the movie territory, which is great for FFXIV fans because we all love a good movie game, don’t we?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        HW was only good around the time of it's release.

  95. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    sex with gnomes, sex with dwarves, sex with vulpera, sex with goblins, sex with draenei, sex with lalafells, sex with viera

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A man of culture, I see.

  96. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ah. Another successful thread. XIV firmly living rent free in WoWgays heads, and the buck status is officially broken

  97. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I played simultaneously for years, but dropped XIV when SB came out, then dropped WoW when after clearing Argus during Legion.

    Even now I only resub to XIV to do the story and some extremes/savages here and there. Once I get my clears I unsub for another year or so. The overworld in XIV sucks ass and I want to hang myself for playing a healer in this game because its so fricking brainded. Even tanking is too boring with its 1-2-3 on every fricking job.

    I just wish WoW had better lore and a frick ton of overworld content. That's all it would take to bring me back.

  98. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    618370246
    doesn't even get a (you)

  99. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    never playing wow ever again cope

  100. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I used to be a hardcore ffxiv shill but the game has gotten worse, the community is so fricking garbage now, and you're all obnoxious mmo tourists that don't shut the frick up.

    so now i just shit talk xiv threads with wow because i want you all to suffer. i have never played wow

  101. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >play wow
    >no trannies
    >play xiv
    >trannies everywhere
    I know which game I'm picking, simple as

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >play xiv
      >no trannies
      >play wow
      >trannies everywhere
      I know which game I'm picking, simple as

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You have literal troony NPCs in WoW, you actually literally can't escape them.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I have zero issue with transexuals, i just dislike when you make a pre-existing character one instead of making a new character to be that.

        its not different than how gays would be upset if they were to take a long running gay character and go "Actually, they just realized they're straight and just been confused till now".

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      kneel to your troony god, wowbuck

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      no mmo is troony free.

  102. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >twitch drops
    Ayylmao
    Btw, FF15 is a bad game

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      better than ff14 which cant even be called a game lmao

  103. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Before WoW expansion is released
    >"HAHAHA DEAD IN THE WATER NO ONE WILL PLAY THIS SHIT BLIZZARD IS DONE FFXIV IS THE BEST LOOK AT THOSE TWITCH NUMBERS"
    >after WoW expansion is released
    >"Ugh, these numbers mean nothing, who the frick cares about Twitch in 2022?"

    Why is Ganker like this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it's the same people.

      i still hate xieveBlack folk with a burning passion though.

  104. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Going by player numbers alone, WoW is still 3x bigger than FFXIV. There's really no debate there. The numbers are readily available. That doesn't necessarily make it better, but it's obvious what more people are playing. WoW is also hemorrhaging players as FFXIV continues to grow, though. There is no real metric to base anything on. It's all personal preference.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Going by player numbers alone, WoW is still 3x bigger than FFXIV. There's really no debate there. The numbers are readily available.
      Show them then

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.google.com/search?q=mmo+population+charts

        Gee golly that was hard.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >sources: dude, trust me

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What metric those guys use? There is some data there that doesn't make much sense.

            Did you even look at what you're linking to? Wow isn't anywhere close to 3x xiv's population.

            All bots. A specific source was never given. A list of hundreds of different sources and methodologies were provided.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You should have posted a specific source then instead of being a b***h and saying google it bro.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          So according to the top result

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What metric those guys use? There is some data there that doesn't make much sense.

            It's much worse than that.

            >So, we do it based on reddit subscriber information. We track the current subscribers, active users and history of both. T

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What metric those guys use? There is some data there that doesn't make much sense.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's all "estimation" no real number lmao. I wonder how much Blizzard pays them.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Did you even look at what you're linking to? Wow isn't anywhere close to 3x xiv's population.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          lol all the b***hes salty that a lot of people still play WoW. Grow up

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The last time I heard anything about how many people played WoW was from some apparent leak thanks to an add on which was incredibly low.

  105. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Being the current king of MMOs is like being the current king of a pile of garbage.

  106. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Who is the current king of MMOs?
    Whoever has the new Expansion/DLC just come out.
    >And why?
    Because they have a new Expansion/DLC just come out.
    Duh.

  107. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus the XIV hater responses are so low tier

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Have a lot to make up for an expansion that is abysmal in features and lacks general interest.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Have a lot to make up for an expansion that is abysmal in features and lacks general interest.

      samegayging this blatantly just makes you look pathetic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Cope all you want, Dragonflight practically has nothing going for it.
        New Race looks like shit and has more gear issues than mechagnomes. New Class only has two specs again and couldn't be bothered to also let it Tank. The two are forced together. Flying on Dragons is something people already have had since the Burning Crusade. Talent Trees has to take away even more abilities from classes just so they can give them right back to you. You won't even get all the new content as they're going to rotate dungeons with old ones.
        And that's not even all the issues.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >all this seethe over a supposedly "dead" game
          lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Don't you dare point out the flaws of my game

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