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Me
Which games do you come from? Are you soulsbros?
Path of Exile, I've played it since the alpha
And me
uhhh me
Me, I fricking hate zoomzoom shit like you wouldn't believe.
People calling it boring and slow because you have to play it like an actual videogame as opposed to the cookie-clicker clone POE turned into. Addicts.
But there are plenty of game catered to you already.
You’d think PoE 2 would be catered to the PoE 1 audience instead of the blizzdrone audience?
It isn't catered to blizzard fans
Oh it absolutely is. Its decimated everything PoE to streamline it with Diablo, to make it more welcoming to blizzdrones
What did it decimate? Every change that was made was an improvement from PoE1 and then they one upped the homosexuals like you who RagePiss "Not my PoE!" with deciding not to merge the games to keep the first game in tact with the same team that is making leagues for them currently.
>to make it more welcoming to blizzdrones
not possible dude, there's boobies in it
not really. the combat is more dark souls than it is diablo 4 currently. Cope homosexuallord LMAO
But D4 plays much faster than what they showed for PoE2.
I fricking hate nu-poe zoomers so much. I played poe before you were even born, when we farmed act 2 fellshrine ruins in a 6 man public party and we liked it. Poe2 is taking us home and there is nothing you can do about it.
boooooooooring
poe is best enjoyed zooming through maps as fast as possible because that is the endgame
mapping
and you want to be as efficient as possible
Sounds like you’d enjoy Diablo 4 more
You people keep saying this as though it's true, everyone at this point knows D4 was a huge fricking flop and I'm glad I waited to see because I had my suspicions. Good Blizzard is gone, this is exactly the quality of shit that they put out with everything now days.
Wdym, it has the exact same philosophy to combat. Slow, tactical. It is very unlike PoE 1. But you seem to prefer slow and steady?
So if you like FPS games, Overwatch is up your ally then? You must like Call of Duty as well then. Maybe some Escape from Tarkov. You must also like Destiny 2 and Battlefield at the same time.
They're the same genres, the philosophies are the same, Diablo 4 was a copium that players who enjoy the slower, more methodical impactful gameplay was hoping to provide but though it gives that, it drops the ball in every other way. It's like having a cake that's only sprinkles and nothing else, it's just sprinkles on a plate. They don't taste good without the rest of the cake there, which they forgot to bake.
>noooooooooooo you must like daaablo1!!!11
Why are you like this? Even fricking Grim Dawn is infinitely closer to the original PoE than D4.
D4 plays much faster than PoE2
what poe audience? 99% players haven't gotten to red maps. should they really sacrifice their artistic vision and integrity catering to the 0.000001% of the playerbase autists that spam group 100% delirious juiced maps that are so far detached from how the rest of the game plays that it may as well be a different game?
There's an entire genre for you zoomfricks that keeps constantly releasing new games.
Meanwhile proper ARPGs release like twice a decade and then one of them is trash like D4. Just give us this, you ADHD-riddled spastics. PoE 1 will still be around to go fricking zoomtroon in.
Why not just play PoE builds that are not zoom zoom then? Because others are zooming around and you are at a disadvantage?
But they have already confirmed you would be able to somewhat zoom zoom and clear screens in poe2 if you wanted to. Where is your logic now? You would still be at disadvantage in this case.
Either way I don't care about speed as I enjoy both, what worries me is the game is unironically 2.5-3 years away from being out and even then there is no way it has the same amount of content as poe1 does.
Because it feels like shit. None of the anti-zoom homosexuals will ever admit it, because they think it can somehow be made good. It can't in a game like poe. The problem isn't mechanics but the nature of the game being always online. Everything has a network latency, with slower cast time on shit it starts feeling super unresponsive.
If you ever actually played the end game you'd know really fast builds tend to suck at bosses. Zoomie shit is just for maps
Lot of builds switch the main damage gems in 6L right before the boss door, from the speed clear ability to single-target ability.
And those builds aren't that zoomie or they suck at bosses. Map bosses aren't "bosses" moron
>Map bosses aren't "bosses"
>If you ever actually played the end game you'd know really fast builds tend to suck at bosses.
If you actually played the end game you'd know that the majority of people skip bosses because they won't stop increasing their health while simultaneously refusing to make bosses worthwhile to kill. You only need to do it once to unlock the Atlas entry.
Wrong
Thing is if you wanted to build a dedicated bosser and have the patience/resources for it, you would completely and utterly trivialize bosses. End game bosses are balanced around builds that can map, maybe not the most efficient and brainless, but not around dedicated bossers.
Try doing Uber sirus on some ts build you'll get fricking wrecked unless you have a mirror build
Tornado Shot? Is that build even good at mapping without mirror quality gear? There are plenty of balanced builds that offer adequate if not top-tier mapping that can do Uber Sirus, that's the point. It's very rare to have someone have a dedicated mapper and a dedicated bosser; they just pick whether bossing is important to them and choose a build that can do both (generally at the cost of something, be it riskier bossing, riskier or slower mapping, or just more annoying gameplay).
Because PoE's in a perpetual battle against professional streamers and their autistic fanbase and if streamers can zoom zoom to the final end game in 3 days then they nerf player power relative to enemy power into the ground and good luck making it to early end game bosses within a season with a character that doesn't clear four entire screens per second.
>But they have already confirmed you would be able to somewhat zoom zoom and clear screens in poe2 if you wanted to
>Clear screens
THERE ARE NO ENEMIES ON SCREEN, THAT'S THE FRICKING POINT
>Why not just play PoE builds that are not zoom zoom then?
Nobody is going to lift their hands up and tap out of participating in the economy so that they can play a worse build that does the game's core function at a significantly slower rate when the majority of activities are time-limited.
>Where is your logic now? You would still be at disadvantage in this case.
What are you even arguing about, you schizo c**t? You are no different than Blizzard telling people to "just play the game less" because "you're finishing it too fast". What a stupid poster.
>what worries me is the game is unironically 2.5-3 years away from being out and even then there is no way it has the same amount of content as poe1 does.
Good. PoE1 would be better if you casually patched out 9 or 10 of the random league mechanics that nobody even wants to do that all require special stashes to hold specific items and currencies to do content that is not only less fun than the game's core end game, but less rewarding. I don't know how people like to sit there and pretend they're pumped to run Delve again every league or how happy they are to level up Syndicates. I just assume those people are either lying, or moronic, but I already said which one you are.
Really sounds like you would enjoy Ruthless mode. The drop rates are so ass in that mode that you will spend a lot of time in story mode alone farming Act 3 Docks and Blood Aqueducts. Funny how much the lack of access to good loot instantly slows the game down and heavily so.
>participating in the economy
>he doesn't play ssf
>he doesnt even play hc
casual moronic frick wants to slow down the game, huh?
Why the frick would they have PoE 1 speed at the beginning. How stupid do you think it would get 10 years in? This isn't Diablo 3 or 4 where they have minimal support for it after launch
>You’d think PoE 2 would be catered to the PoE 1 audience instead of the blizzdrone audience?
Judging from Kripp playing Act 2 yesterday, its more aimed at Nioh audience than anything else. The Elden Ring inspiration really shows in their new design.
If you've ever played Nioh 2, it has a simplistic diablo-loot system, you usually fight 1-3 enemies at a time and combat is fast but killing one target takes a while. And theres a lot of bosses to fight.
They actually ripped off Grim Dawn. People were already laughing about this during the reveal. That's what you're noticing.
>They actually ripped off Grim Dawn.
Grim Dawn melee hits are still auto-confirm so not really. When a giant undead abomination in Grim Dawn does that silly super-fast charge attack, theres nothing you can do to avoid it, you WILL get hit by it. I remember in the Malmouth DLC I shot one of those giants in a dungeon from other side of a broken bridge. The monster started the superfast-charge attack, then disappeared further into dungeon. 12 seconds later he appears still doing the charging animation, I try to dodge to the right side and the monster does a perfect 90 degree angle turn to hit with the charge.
Theres only a couple of gameplay skill checks in Grim Dawn, everything else is purely just gear check because lot of monster attacks are unavoidable. Meanwhile PoE melee attacks haven't been auto-hit since Legion League and now the game has a dodge roll with iframes. They're really trying to turn it something closer to Nioh, or Elden Ring I guess.
Sure, obviously. I'm not saying the whole game was copied, but that's where all that is from, yeah. And I mean shit, that's a great game, they could do far worse.
PoE1 doesn't even cater to the PoE1 audience, you homosexual frick. The game wasn't this high speed clearfest for the first half of it's lifespan before people started picking up Arc and Cyclone. You morons who want that shit are legitimately not even the original Path of Exile audience. They used to do "builds of the week" with elemental hit and fireball, and the game thrived. You are nothing more than a bandwagoner who is trying to manipulate something you didn't even play until you caught your favorite streamer playing it. You are, for all intents and purposes, the cancer killing video games.
Yes it was. As soon 2.0 it was zoomy as frick
And me. I also dislike the zoom zoom shit that PoE has turned into. Though I'm okay with people getting to do it, ala Flicker Strike, every time you see anything on the game it's just people flicking around the map as though they were using flicker strike, farting in a general direction, actually unaware of what the mobs are, they just explode with Herald of MTX#21, it's become less about a video game of progression and more about a video game of optimization, efficiency, spreadsheets, third party tools and pretty much just becoming what I hear EVE Online to be.
There's a level of speed that's fine, the fantasy of going faster has to exist, but everyone's now playing at 1,100% increased action speed and there's no draw backs to being something menacingly tanky because it will just be shit. Kill or be killed.
PoE2 looks pretty slow but anyone with a brain larger than a walnut figured out the gear given was absolute trash and it wouldn't surprise me if no passive points were allocated at all.
The game will be faster than what they showed off and people played, but I don't expect it to reach a quarter of what PoE1 has become.
Good news though, PoE1 lovers can stay in PoE1. I'll be playing both because I enjoy both.
I hate how the beta (even if the full game) is a fricking year away though.
Spreadsheets Online actually has a lot more tactics, thought and player skill required to actually fly anything no matter how theorycrafted (unless you are merely a f1 monkey in a large fleet) and no single ship can do everything. I'm quite a PoE 'newb' shitter with 300h of only ever self-made builds. I was completely put off by the day I spent partied with some giganerd many-mirror built guy. The screen was just entirely coated in sparks that instantly deleted everything on the screen and beyond the edges. I've seen more game'play' in microsoft excel and I get what you say.
>eve
>spin ship in station, then you get told to undock and f1 broadcasted target to wipe overview
>poe
>sit in hideout trading, then you get your item and go mapping hitting q to wipe the screen
Goodbye speedslop. You will not be missed.
You will not be missed lil trannies. Hope you enjoy D4 until PoE 2 releases
>D4
Disgusting trash, go shill your D4 fetish else where. It's a failed game
Going faster doesn't necessarily equate to being good. In fact slowing combat down to dodges and engage and disengage on melee skills is the exact remedy to the issues that have made PoE entirely about projectiles.
>POE gameplay
>watch a guide and copy literally everything
>wow guys i am playing path of exile
How is using guides any better than just watching a walkthrough on youtube and claiming you played a game?
then just... don't use a guide? you're capable of having your own thoughts, right anon?
right?
No guide users are respectable but probably less than 1% of the playerbase.
Sounds like a shiity game with shitty playerbase.
I don't do guides. I've gotten to endgame and killed maven with my own, self-made builds several times.
As for the people who follow guides... even the less advantaged of us deserve to have their fun, I suppose.
Have you ever looked at guide builds? They are theory crafts that you can't even copy. It's just so you can prevent yourself from spending 20 hours just to plateau on life/damage and not understand why something is good or bad. Not a hard concept
I haven't played poe, because everyone Ive ever talked to about it told me that its impossible to play without using guides and imo thats no better than watching a stream.
Redditors who are incapable of doing anything by themselves will tell you the only way to play is to use a guide.
PoE has a frickton of different mechanics, and even after 1000 hours you might now be aware of all of them. This doesn't mean it's impossible to play, it just means that the game takes a while to figure out. That's why most of the players find it fun.
>Me, I fricking hate zoomzoom shit like you wouldn't believe.
Kek poe1 was the same slow boring shit
zoom zoom is pinnacle
Poe 2 will become zoom too at some point
>Poe 2 will become zoom too at some point
Anyone who thinks it isn't going to become this wasn't there to experience PoE1 in its entirety.
I was there when Chris pressed the button to turn server on and frick my wife with dildo big as burger and had asked me in the eyes "have you exalt today exile?" and I respond yes sir and press log in
The true PoE experience
>I fricking hate zoomzoom
PoE2 will be zoomzoom. there's no stopping it.
>I fricking hate zoomzoom shit like you wouldn't believe.
>likes the game that is about teleporting over the map one-shotting everything until you get one-shot by a random rare mob with a bad modifier roll and get deported back to shitcrow league
This, just dislike what PoE has become, simple as. Maybe 2 becomes zoomzoom later, maybe they just buff non zoom zoom builds in PoE1 to make the nu-ARPG crowd leave... I just want the chance to have old style melee builds of all kinds have SOME relevance!
0/7
me
Me too
Me
People who love chink spyware.
People like this who they paid to parade in front of us.
What the frick is this?
Average PoE player on stage at Exilecon. The absolute state of this industry.
Me
It unironically looks more fun than poe1
The thing is a lot of people have their brain absolutely fricking fried by PoE1 endgame, and they loathe the idea that you'd have to actually PLAY a game again that you can't cheese and autistically optimize the shit out of (right away)
The new systems are very cool, and you will still be able to zoomzoom plenty, as long as you get to the endgame
If the endgame power fantasy fulfillment is missing (which i doubt very much), then the game will suffer hard as a consequence, but people fail to realize that everything we've seen so far is constantly subject to change
I'm willing to give GGG time, I have enough trust in them, they're clever guys, and will do the appropriate things. If it was balanced by your average redditard, PoE would spiral out of control in a week and become just a game where every rare mob drops ten thousand mirrors and gives 10 billion xp, and you just oneshot everything all the time
souls players. poe2 looks like isometric dark souls
>chris really was just delaying the truly devastating vision of jonathan
The only improvement is the graphics look great. Everything they showed of gameplay looks awful.
No one
Dark souls gays don't like anything that isn't third person homosexualry and autistically slow and dumb gameplay for people who don't play vidya will scare away everyone else.
I don't know how people can still play this
>Start up game
>new character
>mindlessly running around and spamming 1 ability for a few hours
I played POE back when it had only 3 acts and it's still just as bad
Thanks Looneytroon!
>play an FPS game
>all you do is mindlessly running around and clicking heads for a few hours
>play an RTS
>all you do is mindlessly running around and clicking units for a few hours
>play a sony game
>all you do is mindlessly running around and watching movies for a few hours
>play a racing game
>all you do is mindlessly running around and driving cars for a few hours
>play an ARPG
>mindlessly running around and spamming 1 ability for a few hours
Yes moron, welcome to video games
Some people find things that you don't personally like fun
>>play an FPS game
>>all you do is mindlessly running around and clicking heads for a few hours
Every FPS has more options available from the get-go than POE. I can literally start up a Halo game and have access to dozens of game modes all with different vehicles or weapons and maps.
>>play an RTS
>>all you do is mindlessly running around and clicking units for a few hours
Every single RTS has multiple factions and different strategies you can use per game and due to the nature of the game you'll more than likely need to change the strategy you're using on the fly. Once again, all of this is available from the get-go.
>>play a sony game
>>all you do is mindlessly running around and watching movies for a few hours
Don't care, not a console player.
>>play a racing game
>>all you do is mindlessly running around and driving cars for a few hours
Yeah, racing games blow ass.
>>play an ARPG
running around and spamming 1 ability for a few hours
Yeah, lots of dogshit ARPG's like Grim Dawn.
Couldn't be more dishonest with your post.
>i-it gets better 100 hours in!!!
*yawn*
>I can literally start up a Halo game and have access to dozens of game modes all with different vehicles or weapons and maps.
Right, excuse me while I go start up PoE and have access to dozens of types of content, all with different builds, bosses and mechanics.
Sorceress has oriental clothing. Instant download.
goys who enjoy rollslop
Through all the down-votes and salt, we have done it.
Hardcore players? RIP'd by stream delay.
Solo-self-found players? Chanced their stream rewards.
League players? At the Q&A asking if we'll get two league starts.
Standard players? Waiting for the 4.0 announcement stream.
Ruthless chads?
Secretly Alpha testing PoE2 with the launch of ruthless mode.
Beta tested the new gold mechanic in the ruthless exclusive league.
Live testing the new roll mechanic with the beloved addition of Quickstep.
I love ruthless. Eager for PoE2.
>unironically defending speedslop over rollkino
Constantly needing to roll is fricking shit
I was at exile con and played the hunteress and warrior a bunch.
The warrior's abilities and gameplay was reminding me of greatsword/mace of monster hunter and poe1 brainlets were incapable of comprehending a gameplay style like this.
That said all the abilities were 0 link, gear was trash and there was no passive tree. So I'm expecting the actual game to be easy. As I was able to clear everything, only having issues with 1 boss on warrior.
>the gameplay was all shown on 0 links
Well then, no wonder it seemed slow as frick
Try playing PoE 1 on no links, you will have a similar experience
>Try playing PoE 1 on no links, you will have a similar experience
what do you mean everything they showed us at exilecon was the end game, factually, the entire game plays like this, Ruthless wasn't a side project it went core into PoE2 and PoE1 got fricked as a result of Chris Wilson's vision and now we pay the price the game is not salvageable and now d4 troony clone exists in the form of PoE2 and all hype is dead game will be kill on release because its slow and slow is boring and unfun
poe2 already has more content pre beta than diablo 4 in season 1
let that sink in
Me
Not me, I prefer PoE 1
i got you
>poedrones still cant stop talking about d4 even during their convention
haha the fricking validation required
PoE2 is actually going to fix everything
REST IN FRICKING PISS
>gold
>cooldowns
>flask no longer automatically fill in town, you have to press a well
>quicksilver flask removed
>movement abilities removed
>slow combat
>rotations
>you have to defeat all 100 bosses to unlock all their stat boosts, its character bound
>scour and alt removed
>crafting bench removed
>metacraft removed
its so fricking over before it even started
I'm glad you're not going to infest my game
>you have to defeat all 100 bosses to unlock all their stat boosts, its character bound
Actually fricking based. I didn't know that.
>you have to defeat all 100 bosses to unlock all their stat boosts, its character bound
>crafting bench removed
>metacraft removed
Here it is fellas, the obvious, disengenious "I didn't actually listen or watch anything they showed, I just went to reddit and looked what the top threads told me to think about it" post, with a snoy on top to boot. Truly the uniquest post of all time. So unique you might qualify to the level of a mageblood.
>REST IN FRICKING PISS
>
>>gold
no longer automatically fill in town, you have to press a well
flask removed
abilities removed
>>slow combat
>>you have to defeat all 100 bosses to unlock all their stat boosts, its character bound
and alt removed
bench removed
removed
>
>
>its so fricking over before it even started
>>gold
Good
Already said it'd be for a few skills, not the norm
no longer automatically fill in town, you have to press a well
Slightly tedious
flask removed
abilities removed
>>slow combat
Good, zoom zooms in shambles
Using more than one skill is good
>>you have to defeat all 100 bosses to unlock all their stat boosts, its character bound
Boss fights are kino
and alt removed
bench removed
removed
Good
You're mazed
no need to post selfies
>you have to defeat all 100 bosses to unlock all their stat boosts, its character bound
What the frick I have to do this every season on every character? No way are they that stupid.
Yes, literally. A lot of them are on the campaign but still
They said there are 100 unique bosses in the game.
They said later in a completely separate discussion that there are SOME optional bosses which give stat boosts.
How Ganker connected two separete things to create a moronic agenda is beyond me.
We literally saw Kripp get +10% fire res permanently yesterday after defeating a boss
>They said later in a completely separate discussion that there are SOME optional bosses which give stat boosts.
Did I fricking stutter?
Black person read the post you replied to
Genuinly over
why wasnt tarke cat at tennocon? anyone got the deets?
not dadgamers and kfc enjoyers that for sure
no one ever believed they would combine both games because everyone would just do the campaign that was faster
just a big ol cope from the poewhales
the target audience is mentally ill people with depression who hate themselves chasing a dopamine hit to feel anything at all for even a brief moment. that's the entire gameplay loop.
>Brodamine
Reddit post
deflect some more, the game is nothing but a slot machine for addicts.
Me
>Game is too slow
>Haha zoomshits will be btfo
We haven't even seen highly optimized endgame gameplay and the beta from exilecon the characters aren't even allowed to mess with the tree or have support gems. The real gameplay will be closer to what we saw in trailer 1 and 2.
Gameplay will definitely be faster in release because players are always better at optimizing than devs, but I wonder why did they choose to display so slow gameplay at Exilecon this year.
looks slow as shit bro
Here's how it will be and I will love every second of it
>PoE chinks suddenly defending cooldowns after shitting on them for a decade
I always knew this was disingenuous seethe.
What's up with morons always coming to PoE threads and straight up lying like miserable homosexuals?
There are no cooldowns in PoE2 except for a couple obvious exceptions. They've literally said that on the stream you humongous moron.
>straight up lying
>There are no cooldowns in PoE2
Oh, okay-
>except for a couple obvious exceptions
How can anyone be as moronic as you are and still manage type words without swallowing your own tongue? Even funnier that you morons call everyone else liars, as your first and last argument.
>Even funnier that you morons call everyone else liars, as your first and last argument.
They're disciples of the great bald one, having suffered under him for years they now adopt his methods.
You both remember wrong, they said they try to have as little cooldowns as possible in the game. Unleash is a Support gem from PoE 1 that reserves extra spells that come out simultaneously if you don't use your spells for a while, basically like loading more bullets into your gun and shooting them all at once. So of course that support gem has and always will have a cooldown. It does nothing when you're spamming spells, it does its thing when theres downtime in combat.
The new Meteor spell didn't have a cooldown and it didn't need one because it had slow spell cast animation and its damage was highly dependent on Charge that you need to build up with other spells first. Its like a finishing right hook after left jabs.
Better to admit when you're wrong than to perpetuate bad ideas forever.
Why is this shit online only? Why can't I play single player with mods?
Frick you.
Also me
Its built for Kripp because Chris loves Kripp
Chris is not working on 2
>people STILL believe the words of a habitual liar
kek
Nah. Chris was working on poe2, but then harvest happened which allowed people to gear on their own and he completely sperged out about how they're "ruining the game". Now he's locked in an endless cycle of fricking up the game for muh vision, making an apology tour because nobody likes his vision (not even himself, he doesn't play past like A7), then rolling back his stupid changes, bit slightly less.
Chris has become the company moron that fricks up everything they touch, so they have to be kept busy with other shit. The worse poe1 gets the better because that means Chris iskept away from poe2. Poe1 is unsalvageable anyway, fixing it is too large to get past the company moron who also happens to be the ceo
Now this guy is in charge and he says you're not allowed to refill your flasks unless you go to the town toilet.
Good. Stop thinking in terms of what's the best and start thinking in terms of what you can get past the company moron.
>we're removing flasks / making them auto apply
Will get veto'd
>nerfing flasks to becoming near useless
Will not. Then later you can rework them.
>Good.
moron
Was he involved heavily in making launch-2021 poe? He looks like a slimy, arrogant c**t whos been out of shape his whole life. Was poe1 good because of some of his philosophy or not?
Here
Fixing PoE1 is quite easy (stop making it a gambling sim with time-gated zoom-zoom-much-needed content). Dont give a frick about PoE2 - they can frick it with a volcano for all i care.
Veto'd by moron, skip to unemployment, don't pass start
So you have no argument whatsoever, except "please dont change gambling simulator into something else".
giga manlets
clown 69
Btw is that norwegian homie tip toeing
are quin, mathil, and lily the only based poe streamers? alk is ok but kind of too tryhard and whiny sometimes
>based
define
quin is a whiny israelite from the gaygiest country on Earth, so he's definitely not based
Is he really a israelite?
1/4 israelite according to him
more like 1/8
12% or so he says
quin is a homosexual if his D4 videos are any indicator.
he knows d4 is shit but he knows playing it makes him money which he needs to support his 4 aryan kids and wife
I'm not an ARPG elitist (I love D4) I just think he is genuinely a homosexual and his content is cancer.
I don't watch Quinn but i appreciate his don't give a shit attitude. It's like he's doing everything ironically
>don't give a shit attitude
is that why he's seething 24/7 and constantly banning people that expose his moronation?
it's a meme, people want him to ban them because it's funny
are you a groyper or something
>manlets staying on toes to look taller
>meanwhile nugi
KWAB
>Mathil is shorter than Quin
My world-view is shattered.
Why doesnt the larger streamer simply eat the smaller ones?
Autistic gambling addicts that love doing the same mindless thing for days/weeks/months. Just put them in the hamsterwheel and they're happy, I honestly envy their simple minds.
People who like cookie clicker with a bit more involvement
>Who is the target audience for this game?
Content creators just play it because they're getting paid, the actual audience is way more sad.
i'm looking forward to it. I definitely don't zoomzoom even in PoE 1. I have a slower playstyle but still enjoy all the things to do, so PoE 2 looks like it'll be fun
Me
I'm a 2 meter muscular heterosexual man
people who still play poe buy don't like poe
>poegays smugly talked shit about diablo 4 for months non stop
>hyped up exilecon like it's gonna change the whole world
>poe2 revealed to be its own separate thing,toning things down,some aspects much closer to diablo
>poegays are now coping and dooming hard
rofl
We got btfo in our own con
how was your rented account going?
got any gifts from daddy troony?
Not enough passives.
That passive tree looks like shit. No symmetry, no masteries, pathing looks like hell, and its just a tree from 1 with gimmicks. What a shitflop.
gacha phone whales
>still a year away
>walks on stage to kill all hype
>still a year away
That's not true. Only the closed beta is a year away. Most likely the game will be out in 2025
me, screenrape zoomies get fricked
Diablo fans
PoE2 will steal away those burned by D4 the same way PoE1 did for D3
too bad 99% of them quit after the first week
me
I play SSFHC and spend more hours autistically thinking about different builds I could do than actually playing
i dunno, arpg games are boring
Hopefully me, if they keep it way slower than PoE is, way less cluttered with garbage loot, more focus on interactive combat and cool skills.
Unironically unemployed guys.
Hopefully not Chris
FRICK TRADE
ALL MY HOMIES HATE TRADE
Frick off blizzdrone
>NOOOO YOU CANT SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT MUH DAFY CHRIST WILLSON NOO
>I JUST LOVE THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF A BOT HIDEOUT
never bought a blizzard game in my life
Cringe F2Piggy “gamers”
There's literally nothing wrong with slowing POE1's spastic gameplay down
There's everything wrong with divorcing POE1 and 2 when the entire idea was sold on being a POE1 overhaul, then using the separation of the game as an excuse to not update the things you said you'd update and remove content
POE2's gameplay? Looks fun, especially after they retuned the demo for Kripp it just seemed like a more fun POE-ized Diablo 4
Removing Scion, reducing campaign from 10 acts to 6, homogenizing classes by making their start skill locations far closer, NO-LUBE RAPING the crafting system, NO-LUBE SPIKED CONDOM RAPING Solo Self-Found? Frick you.
They stole every dev from POE and justified it by saying they were overhauling POE, and now we've found out that POE just got fricked for no reason because POE2 is unrelated.
Slow gameplay in poe will nevrr feel good due to network delay
They solved this 60 years ago with predictive networking.
Did you not play during desync? oos?
Predictive is still server authorative and thus subject to delay, or desync. The longer the delay on an action (on top of network) the higher chance for desync
Only way to see it is to try zooming without phasing or to be on wifi.
>it just seemed like a more fun POE-ized Diablo 4
Except that Diablo 4 is so anti-fun, so far into the negative values, that anything remotely like it can never, ever be considered good.
But otherwise I agree, the fact that they put their entire dev weight behind PoE2, and the end result is just that they're making a more casual, less interesting game and leaving real PoE to rot is unforgivable.
You could have just made PoE1 better. You could have done that. That was an option. Instead you chose to make Diablo 4.
>Removing Scion
I called this 8 threads before the con. I just knew it. White blonde woman who is smart, sexy, and a trad wife is problematic in the current year.
>trad wife
Didn't she literally murder her husband on her wedding night?
Tradwives are typically schizophrenic from over-prescription of diazepam as a treatment general anxiety.
her husband tried to rape and murder her, it's only natural she killed him.
ITS POEVER
Incels
I get the appeal of a slower and more methodical ARPG, more similar to old PoE, but I have zero faith GGG is able to make that kind of game anymore and have it be fun on top. They'll do the same endless layered RNG treadmill shit, except now you'll progress even slower. It will be even more of a job that regular PoE, except it'll also play sluggishly, without the speed and screen explosions to trick you into thinking you're making progress.
ok, explain to someone who isn't a hardcore ARPG player why this game seems to be bad?
Because ARPG games are by their very nature bad.
here's the qrd
>POE1 becomes huge in the wake of D3's release sucking wiener
>POE1 becomes known for its extreme depth of character builds
>Mechanically, builds are incredibly interesting and have interactions beyond literally any other game I can think of, functionally, you run around at mach 10 and instakill nearly everything, that's how every build plays
>In 2019 dev announces POE2, which is like Overwatch 2 in that it's a gigantic overhaul that changes engine, double the number of character classes, adds tons of new features, and revitalizes the game
>During this announcement, the devs mock what a terrible idea a true sequel to POE1 would be, because abandoning POE1's DECADE of development/progression is just asking for a game that will take a decade to live up
>For the years after, fixes to POE1 are postponed by claiming those issues are overhauled in POE2 (notably all melee builds are lame and identical, POE2's new animation system would allow devs to solve it)
>Cut to 2023
>Devs out of nowhere announce POE2 is now a totally separate game to be developed and supported at the same time as POE1
>Announced fixes? Never coming. New engine? Never coming. Decade of POE1 post-release expansions and features? Not being ported
>POE2 gameplay playable, enemies are spongy as shit, every spell has long and interruptible cast times, low enemy density, far worse item drop rates, player moves at 5 miles an hour, seasoned POE1 streamers die constantly and try to gloss over that it's just not as fun as POE1
>Basically they just made Diablo 4 and hit every single pitfall they pointed out as avoidable in 2019
>Convention QnAs paint a worse picture: POE1 was relegated to EIGHT devs to make room for POE2 development only for POE2 to get separated from POE1, series main dev Chris Wilson is barely even touching POE2, A class got removed for POE2, the insanely in-depth and cool crafting system of POE1 is being removed
You morons have just decided to hate it based on literally leveling gameplay from Act 1-2 lmao. AHHH NEW THING BAD OLD THING GOOD SAVE ME CHRIS FROM 13 YEARS AGO
Cope blizztroon. Noone is interested in your dogshit slow tactical combat
You are actually so fricking stupid you managed to miss the point of my post lmao. Here, let me rephrase: what would you think about current PoE if they showed you leveling gameplay from Act1-2?
I wouldnt give a shit because theres tons of content of endgame gameplay online already
Leveling in act 1-2 is a shit ton faster than poe2slop gameplay. Also it was act 4 you Black person
>the insanely in-depth and cool crafting system of POE1 is being removed
Anon, are you sure you have been playing PoE?
it's in-depth and cool assuming you're not a gigahomosexual who only uses divine orbs as trade currency and only interacts with the crafting bench to put resistances on leveling gear
shut the frick up
>it's in-depth and cool
Boy howdy, I sure do love clicking alts 20,000+ times.
literally all they need to do is make it so orbs auto-apply until you get what you ask for. of course, there's not enough FRICTION in that so chris fricking dumbass moron bald fricking homosexual would never implement it
Name a game with a more complex crafting system
Non ironically this
The concept of an ARPG today is you rapidly rush through copy pasted zones obliterating thousands of enemies per second with tiny RNG progression. If you've played any ARPG in the last decade you have literally played them all, they are identical and exceptionally bad.
but this is exactly why PoE2 looks good. They're trying very hard to make every enemy meaningful instead of just "speedslop explode 500 enemies per second and then die to on death explosion"
The moment I saw the dodgeroll I realized this won't be PoE 2 but an entirely different beast. It might still be bad but they are trying really fricking hard to escape the ARPG blueprint you're talking about.
They're trying hard to market it, they've shown no evidence its different. Fast forward to release and end game when everyone is one ability screen clearing and the suckers who bought the lie get burned but the whales who fund PoE stick around sucking the dopamine draining mindless gameplay paying for cosmetics.
All of the gameplay they've shown looks absolutely nothing like poe1, aside from superficial similarities. Even if you compare early game poe to poe2 it's very different.
Like I said, you might be right that it will just turn into the same slop but nothing they've shown points in that direction.
The game used to be about clearing maps and killing mobs to get xp but now it's an isometric dark souls boss rush.
Soulsgays with potential ARPG schizophrenia in their minds
'tis I. I am he.
Me
From how they were talking about it
Me
Most of the people playing the demo on stream made me not want to play the game, it looked pretty awful. It seemed like the mobs were like PoE1 mobs, but the player character had a 50% temp chains going the entire time. I remember watching someone (Nugiyen?) playing the new Marauder and getting obliterated by a lightning totem + mana drain circle Archnem mod stacking rare. The AN mods were not designed for player characters that move this slow.
A slower game can work, but they need to fix the balance. That boss that calls like 80 wolf adds midfight also showed off how the game is kind of fricky. People just getting surrounded by a ton of wolves that move much faster than them and then stunlocked to death.
Thoughts?
Frankly I think it’s disgraceful
chaos orb not pictured but also looks like shit
also I don't know why they would change the effects of orbs like this and remove some, removing scours in particular was a fricking awful change
This is… seriously bad
>annul and exalt rolled into one
HOOO LEEE
I can't wait for the first homosexual to use a chaos and get the same item back.
Exalt is trash and has been for a while. Annul was somewhat good because of metamods (which are gone)
Thats a shit crafting item
Good evaluation. Considering a poe2 chaos orb in poe 1 contexts. Very intelligent.
I can tell you've read some guides in some discords on how to play.
Kys blizztroon
They look indistinct as frick. The current ones all have completely different shapes that make them easy to tell apart. Once you shrink those ones down to inventory size it's going to be a mess.
Ah yes... the orb of uh transmutation
I don't care that it looks abstract, I care that it looks different
yeah those middle 3 gold ones look too similar at a small size. don't know why everyone was sucking off the artists for this
If you can't tell the difference between those you can't tell the difference between the current orbs either.
What. All the ones that have changed show you exactly what they do on the item itself.
>They look indistinct as frick.
They're way better color coded than previous orbs. All orbs with Blue faces in them= Does something with Magic (Blue) Item. All Yellow faces= Does something with Rare (Yellow) item.
>hmm i guess people thought the face orbs were cool
>LETS PUT FACE ON EVERY ORB
what the frick lmao
I really hope those designs aren't final. They look cool individually but as a set they just all look identical
me ofc, poe nowdays is vampire survivors speed shit i want to play the old poe, this will do
the guy on the left
Just stick to 1 if you don't like 2. Meanwhile, I will be enjoying the superior fixed experience in 2.
Given that PoE1 is about 1 ability damage stacking, mass speed AoE clears I doubt this game is new or different no matter the marketing.
There is a market for ultra casual screen clearing, they wont forsake it just to make a good game, so PoE2 will be dogshit just like the whole modern ARPG market.
me
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Me.
Oh look, another F2P skinner box with insane RNG gacha crafting designed toi grift you for cash.
> What's that, you just spent 60 hrs grinding for this pull to make something cool? Ok, here we g-ACK. Whoops, looks like the crafting failed, Black. Oh well, there's this cash shop with stuff for hundreds of dollars. Go on, treat yourself...
I mean get fricked. Anybody that wastes time on gambling is a fricking idiot.
>Anybody that wastes time on gambling is a fricking idiot.
gambling is objectively fun. gambling with monopoly money is a perfectly acceptable past time. If you're sad because you lost imaginary currency then you're the idiot
moron
diablo 4 enjoyers
Anybody else notice the sheer volume of lies in this thread? Apparently you never use any real money in this game, and apparently it's completely different from the first, even though it quite obviously moves and plays like the first. Which means it plays like a mobile game. These dumbfricks are completely gone. Man, imagine lying on the internet for a Chinese company. What the frick is wrong with these junky fricks? What a shit community. That's how shit this game is. These subhuman crackheads are worse than Genshin addicts.
>Anybody else notice the sheer volume of lies in this thread?
Projection: The Post.
>Apparently you never use any real money in this game
There's an upfront cost of maybe ~50 USD to buy all the stash tabs you'll need. Rest is cosmetic MTX.
>apparently it's completely different from the first
just watch the gameplay. If you can't see the differences then you haven't played the first game and your opinion is invalid.
>There's an upfront cost of maybe ~50 USD
You don't know what 'upfront' means. You can spend tens or even hundreds of hours without buying anything.
If you get to maps you should really buy a set of map + currency tabs. Sure, you can probably get to red with just base tabs, but your experience will not be fun.
Sounds like a skill issue.
Stop hoarding trash and you won't need to buy anything.
if you enjoy playing tetris with dozens of currency items and maps then sure, have fun. Any sane person will want at least a currency + fragment + map.
At the absolute very minimum you need a single premium tab so you can trade.
I agree with the premium tab, which is laughably cheap during sales anyway.
Rest is skippable.
>Rest is skippable.
cool then show me your 5 tab setup 200 hours into a league.
Oh let me guess you do use all of those tabs that are supposedly not necessary
I already bought more of them, out of convenience, not necessity.
That was after like 600 hours of playing though.
correct, so why would you recommend someone be inconvenienced for hundreds of hours instead of just spending less money than for another game?
>moving the goalpost and concern trolling
Okay moron.
If you don't think paying for convenience is essential then you're just a moron. The game is objectively shittier to play without those tabs and recommending people play without them is moronic.
Convenience by definition isn't essential, moron.
Yeah it is. Which is why selling convenience in videogames is controversial.
Spoken like a true moron.
No skin off my back if you get filtered by inventory management.
my currency tab wastes 2 normal tabs, 1 tab for map and fragments, so i have only 1 tab for trade, essences, div cards, fossils etc. Are you moronic?
If you want to play the game comfortably you'll have to spend some money as soon as you reach the endgame. I'd say spending about $50 gives you the "full game" experience.
Yes, it's technically free but playing the game without buying any tabs is a pain.
There's always that 1 moronic third worlder coming into every thread to talk about the monetization instead of the actual game
Get fricked third worlder
SoulsGODS like me
People who claim the game is perfectly playable without tabs only beat the campaign and then stop.
Stop projecting your shitty management skills on others.
Post 40/40
I played the game for free with the 4 stash tabs since beta, 4th stash tab was always organized that left side is organized for maps, right side for fragments. When 10 Acts came out I finally put actual money into the game, not because I was tired of organizing, but because I thought Act 5 and 10 were such cool acts, Kitava is a chad and I don't want to spend money on some stupid glowing wings that make the game harder to see. So I got Currency and other stash tabs instead.
I've gotten to 91 in hardcore before. Just don't pick up heaps of shit.
>tab 1: currency, use lower tiers as needed
>tab 2: crafting projects, powerful rares or expensive/useful uniques
>tab 3: div cards and vaal fragments and shit (don't pick up the truly shit cards)
>tab 4: maps, vendoring lower tiers as needed
>don't worry about melee, it'll get fixed in PoE2
>LOL you guys don't even play melee why would we bother
>One game. Two Campaigns. LOL make that Two Games. Melee in PoE1? LMOA
>just roll to avoid damage!
>everything is slow just like hecking eldenslop
>10 enemies on screen
>we changed our mind gold is good now
>no loot
>no crafting bench
>divination cards? what are those I don't play PoE1
>speak to this npc to refill your flask goy
>bosses take 5 minutes
>you died on the boss? it's full health again get fricked lol
>trade improvements? we don't need them current trade is fine
>we don't put cooldowns on our skills haha that's shitty game design
>well sometimes we do but it's ok when we do it LOL
>we just want you to use your skills when you want to because that's fun
>don't forget to carry a mana pot though hehe wouldn't want to run out of mana every 10 seconds
>forced weapon swap meta
>remember to do all your boss kills in the campaign for every character in every season
>but it's totally optional since you only need them to gain character power 🙂
>releasing soon in 2025
why are people so upset about poe2?
Will you add cream on these?
no, they're like salted caramel croissants
i would have said me, but all the big strong melee classes are genderlocked to male and i'm a waifugay so i guess i'm skipping PoE 2 just like i skipped PoE.
Former / Old Diablo fans that like their math autism.
Amazon should work if you like spears. Personally I'm salty there is no male version of the Witch.
me
frick zoom zoom shit
zoom zoom shit is good but should only happen at the very end game. It should be the ultimate reward, not the default.
No idea.
I miss old PoE (the Forsaken Masters and Legacy league). This new shit, and what it has been for past 2 years... not good at all.
asmongold and his legion of fromsoftdrones
thank god poe1 is still a thing and FBR's vision is still alive
people who are dumb enough to sink thousands of hours into clicking mobs but not dumb enough to play blizzshit
It's literally Diablo IV for third worlders who can't afford Diablo IV.
>love d4
>love poe2
me 🙂
me
Only moronic Black folks hate poe2, they fear learning new stuff. Hate to adapt they are reddit incarnate.
It's not about adapting it's about what you find fun. Having some pseudo-ds combat is shit in a game like poe. Roll dodge is clunky and will turn the design into some abomination where you are constantly rolling in boss fights. It'd be better if it were removed so timing dodges could be base around regular movement instead of roll dodge spam but now that it's there devs will make spammy boss fights like we saw with the one large beast where your dodging for half the fight waiting for a 2sec open window. No one finds that shit e joyable its fricking moronic
presumably people who want to play diablo 4 but can't afford the $70
Cope blizztroon
>slow ass leveling
>crazy fast endgame with one spell spam that the clear the screen
Same as the first
???