It's no fun discussing anything on /tg/ I don't know, while the posters there seem of much higher quality than this moron swamped shithole, they are also jaded as frick
Tough, you're stuck with us now.
Anyway, yes, beholders are visually neat but bizarre, they're socially neat but bizarre, and their game purpose is Prismatic Bullshit on steroids. 10/10.
Yes they are very methodical and adhere to their strict schizophrenic ideas so much so that all the IQ in the world can't break them out of their mold.
They're not mindless beasts. They do have some form of society/culture/religion. Theoretically you can also bargain with them if there's something to override their innate xenophobic disposition to just kill you on sight.
How the frick do you develop culture when you despise every single other member of your species and live in total isolation seething about the existance of things that are not you
Racial memory and also some Beholders are born with the innate power to dominate other Beholders, which can be further amplified and expanded by specially "made" relay creatures.
This can grow into whole surveillance nightmare cities of them
>you despise every single other member of your species and live in total isolation seething about the existence of things that are not you
That's just your average Gankerirgin, no?
Beholders are schizos but as long as you don't trip their autism/paranoia they can be reasoned with, or if they have something greater to gain from working with you instead of zapping you into dust
>that one dnd campaign where you have to replace a dead goldfish because a beholder thinks it lives forever and if it finds out the truth it'll go on a rampage and kill all its henchmen
0 AC is effectively 20AC in the modern system, %in lair is the chance a randomencounter in the overworld is within 1 mile of its lair, treasure types refers to a table of loot that will found in its lair, listed by letter type assuming the maximum for the range is present (though beholder is only ever 1 so it doesnt matter)
so a beholder will have a 30% chance for 3d6x100platinum pieces, 55% 2d10 gems, 50% 1d12 israeliteellry, 15% Any 1 magical item, 40% 2d4 potions, and 50% 1d4 scrolls
Only the lore and specific in-universe names are trademarked, like Illithid or Githyanki. You can still make Mindflayers in anything, it's public domain. Beholders are the only creatures Hasbro has a very specific copyright for that prevents their use in anything else.
Not a D&D creation. Lifted almost wholesale from a sci-fi story from 1939.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Destroyer
7 months ago
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Yes I know, hence I said Coeurl because Wizards wouldn't have the legal precedent to actually defend people using the animal and its likeness.
7 months ago
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They can't, which is why Final Fantasy has Coeurls too (which is what I thought you were referring to).
7 months ago
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FF's has a more different look to them, having its tentacles its whiskers rather than on its back like it originally was
Not a D&D creation. Lifted almost wholesale from a sci-fi story from 1939.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Destroyer
which Wizards just didn't even bother to alter when transplanting it to Forgotten Realms.
7 months ago
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A story that old is almost surely public domain by now. They can use stuff from it wholesale without altering it, and so can anyone else. The only thing Wizards can copyright is their own original alterations, so one else can use the name "displacer beast" for example.
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I believe I went through all of FF15 without fight one of these
Modrons are fricking cool, dunno about the rest of the game but as somebody who only cares about the monsters I'm glad we are out of that fricking 13 year old phase that was 4E, where everything had to be menacing and edgy.
I love dumb monsters like this, and animated armor. It makes the players really paranoid, and it's funny to watch them start vandalizing things in fear.
There are like 10 different monsters with this gimmick and you can tell they come from a time when people would actually play these games to go dungeoneering instead of having an interactive soap opera with epic stakes.
>you can tell they come from a time when people would actually play these games to go dungeoneering instead of having an interactive soap opera
People who play DnD for RP are so moronic, there's so many better systems for adventuring and RP.
I can't get this to load. Can anyone post the name, so I can find it elsewhere?
Okay I found it. the name is:
Teikyuu Zako Inma no Shokushu ga Fukai nanode Kankaku Shadan Mahou o Tenkai Shimashita wa!! | This Lowly Incubus Trap's Tentacles Felt Gross So I Cast Sensory Deprivation Magic On Myself!
imo this is the peak of h writing
lots of other people went on the sensory-deprivation-tentacle-pit bandwagon but NOT got the reason why this is so hot. it's the magic contraception and purity devices she has slowly being chipped away by the monster. the sensory deprivation pit is just a way to deliver it in a way that isn't her doing the typical
AIEEEEEEEEEEE IM BEING RAPED
I love dumb monsters like this, and animated armor. It makes the players really paranoid, and it's funny to watch them start vandalizing things in fear.
What if the ceiling was a monster..
>campaign where a town gets a mimic infestation >playground that eats kids >Doors that open up to a brick wall only to swing the opposite way and slam you into the wall >curtains grappling PCs >The final boss was the entire church throwing up bodies from the catacombs
It was fun at first but when it turned into combat around every other corner it stopped being fun.
one of the meanest traps I ever saw was a simple pit trap that had barbed wire hidden inside the rope that the players were "supposed" to use to swing across the pit.
This was a pun. It was beholder in the manga too and someone complained that he didn't have the rights so he renamed it dogezaemon after the deep kneeling Japanese apology
They are extremely xenophobic schizos, this extends the most to their own very mutable race.
>So what the frick do they even do all day?
Scheme for power, hunt food and rack their brains how everyone wants to backstab them because they are the perfect Beholder >What do they want?
Ideally complete and utter domination over all sentient races so they can't be backstabbed but they aren't stupid and will settle for what is in reach like the town next door or something >What is their problem?
Literally everybody else
>Scheme for power, hunt food and rack their brains how everyone wants to backstab them because they are the perfect Beholder
everything reminds me of them
They're very greedy and territorial They hoard either knowledge or material wealth. They're also incredibly xenophobic to the point where they will declare war on other beholders because they're a slightly different shade of brown or have a different number of eyestalks.
>They're also incredibly xenophobic to the point where they will declare war on other beholders because they're a slightly different shade of brown or have a different number of eyestalks.
They are literally me
They make deep fortresses and fill them with traps. They're crazy paranoid, but also like collecting things.
Schizo paranoid autists who accidentally bend reality with their dreams and hallucinations.
The sometimes just kill themselves by dreaming about creating something nastier than themselves, or dreaming up a litter of kids/clones that go into battle royale mode or quickly run away
Why don't you just dream about whatever you want to accomplish? They're not lucid dreamers
>New edition lore
Trash.
Beholder's have a womb under their tongue that self impregnates. When the time comes they chew it off and up to six baby beholder rip out of the sac.
The parent Beholder then seeks the Beholder that looks the most like it and attempts to eat the others who either parish or flee.
>B-but anon-sama, won't you join me under my parasol? Don't you think the blossoms look lovely this time of year? >Y-you think the pink makes my eyes pop? Oh, anon! You're too kind to me, I just can't take my gaze off you
So this game pretends that no race is evil but then there are goblins that even writer self inserts like the dog calls ugly and stupid? and the game pretends that genociding them is just like grinding random monsters?
>Golarion
Hold the FRICK up you're telling me that that motherfricking Mephistopheles that barged into my keep like he owned the place is the very same Mephy that I dabbed on way back in NWN?
Boy is he persistent.
>SO IT'S A GIANT MONSTER EYEBALL RIGHT >EXCEPT IT HAS ALL THESE EYESTALKS COMING OFF IT TOO, SO IT'S LIKE A GIANT MONSTER EYEBALL WITH A BUNCHA EYESTALKS WRIGGLING AROUND ON IT >AND GET THIS - ALL OF THE EYESTALK EYES FIRE A DIFFERENT MAGIC BEAM THAT HAS A UNIQUE MAGICAL EFFECT >OH MY GOD I'M WRITING MY FRICKING ASS OFF OVER HERE, SOMEBODY SET ME UP ANOTHER LINE
I fricked up a high level group pretty good with a cube once >They try to teleport directly into a dragon's lair >Dragon had a protection spell set up that any teleport attempts get redirected into a small basement room, hidden trapdoor on the ceiling to leave >But also a huge gelatinous cube directly above them slowly sliding down >They were so busy examining the floor/walls for a way out that none of them asked to look above them, and in the dark none of them had the perception to see the cube until it was literally on top of their heads
Why the frick do japs portray slimes as small fry? They're fricking frightening, and extremely powerful. Immunity to all physical attacks, and the ability to immobilize and kill you regardless of your physical ability.
7 months ago
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Because of basic b***h slimes are unthreatening. Also dragon quest.
7 months ago
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Even basic b***h slimes should be threatening if they had the most basic predator drive. All they have to do is drop on their prey's head.
7 months ago
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It's just a JRPG meme, they are among the badder "mundane" monsters to meet in DnD, with some being an outright frick you if the dm uses the right sort at the wrong time.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Because you're consuming the wrong Japanese games.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's a shame, but I must admit that I've always liked how Flans look like in Final Fantasy games.
7 months ago
Anonymous
DQ used slimes as the starter enemies instead of rats or whatever
There's still a lot of tougher variations of them at this point in DQ though, Slime Kings, Drake Slimes, Platinum Slimes, etc
7 months ago
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like other anons said, dragon quest decided that slimes were fodder enemies and the majority of JRPG's copy dragon quest
7 months ago
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Someone made a good post about it, something about how they view acid and parasites or something. I forget.
7 months ago
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>Immunity to all physical attacks
Resistant to some, but they're jelly organisms, not living water. >and the ability to immobilize and kill you regardless of your physical ability
Strength to pull yourself out.
Sounds like you're the kind of chump who thinks skeletons are OP, too.
7 months ago
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Skeletons are OP as frick. It's already inside you, and if you try to remove it, you die.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Jokes on you skellygay, i'm deficient in calcium and vitamin D.
I'm crashing this body, WITH NO SURVIVORS!
Nah it goes really fricking indepth with a few of them including Beholders covering everything from biology to culture for like two thirds of the book, the rest is some ontopic game mechanic related stuff, ideas for campaigns and only a very small section with new monsters.
Speaking of D&D I just picked up a pretty spotless copy of Dungeons and Dragons Warriors of the Eternal Sun on the Sega Genesis at a yard sale.
Was this game any good or well recieved? Would old crusty D&D collectors want to give me dosh for it?
Id forgotten I owned Eye of the Beholder but could never play it because I sucked at it. Good times. Maybe I should revisit these kinds of games now that I finished BG3
Just get yourself all seeing eye auto map.
It makes it a bit easier to have the maps ready. Or go full mental and draw your own map. The games are really fun, although a b***h sometimes.
If you really enjoyed them I would also suggest the first Lands of Lore The throne of chaos.
Prime Westwood studios and a fun adventure.
>was on crack
Tell me you've never done crack without telling me you've never done crack. It is more of an intense euphoria than any alteration of your perception. It feels like you've just won a trillion dollars and been declared ruler of the world, all within a few seconds of inhaling. Then, a few minutes later it feels like the world has lost all its colors and you need that high as soon as possible.
One of my childhood friends turn into a crackhead. When he went into recovery I asked him why he smoked it. Told me the world was brighter and everything just made sense and that he was just chasing that first high feeling every other time.
ehm sorry sweaty that is a bit too complex for dnd rules
wait it didn't even used to be they had different ACs for touch attacks and whatnot. man frick 5e
>Yep one of the most powerful monsters in our whole setting is a homosexual hyena man with a flail
He still looks really really unimpressive even in the most tryhard depictions but what the frick were they even thinking with the original illustration, like make him atleast snarl.
Because their dazzling smile always shines! Bad breath? Never! With our new Baldursgate MaxFresh, you'll have whiter teeth in just 3 days! 9 out of 10 dentists recommend it!
What is even the idea behind this post, we know it was created by literally HP bullshit from a far dimension bleeding into the already very creationist DnD setting.
>Monocular
Large compound eye with coloration that mimics a larger animal's eye >Lack of limbs
Some form of gastropod, such as a slug. >Many eyes on stalks
Again, mimicry. Make it appear like there's multiple creatures. >Floating
I got nothing here. That's impossible with our current understanding of biology. However, it could hang down from transparent mucus, kind of like an adaptation similar to a spider. Gotta be some thick ass mucus though. >Death eye beam
Impossible...or is it? Glands underneath the large compound eye could expel a horrific concoction of materials that irritate the skin, as well as another chemical that could potentially cause a severe burn. There are animals capable of firing projectiles from their body, and with a large gastropod, it could easily hide numerous organs that exist purely to produce these horrific chemical reactions.
It isn't a super powerful interdimensional monster, but it sure as hell is something I don't ever want to see become real.
>Many eyes
Rather than lazy mimicry with no real value, these could just be extensions of the organs that spray the chemicals. The central eye expulsions would be one chemical, while the tentacle eyes would spray the other.
The hummingbird was something to think of, but unless it was super tiny and required an absurd amount of sugar to survive, fast wings wouldn't work for this.
eh, just make them hungry omnivores that need to eat a lot to survive. they don't have to be super big, even something grapefruit size (max) with that description would be a fricking nightmare
You could make it some kind of arachnid I guess but I feel like bugs are cheating with this kind of thing >eye-colored thorax >hanging down via transparent threads >white bulbous bits on the legs to look like more eyes >spits a venomous/corrosive fluid from either end, whichever makes sense
You are actually fricking moronic.
Stalked eyeballs =/= Snake hair
Huge cyclops potato head =/= normal woman face, at best some reptilian features
NO BODY =/= Female human body, at best a snakes lower body
automatic anti magic field (Central eye) =/= automatic petrifiying gaze
Swiss knive magic lazer battery (eye stalks) =/= just sneks
Not a thing outside of Castlevania, everything above still applies
>Anon drops trow to flash his dick at a beholder >Beholder looks directly at it for a moment >Bends one of its tentacles closer to its face and inspects it, gazing back and forth between anon's dick and its own tentacle >Beholder then laughs its floating ass off, using multiple tentacles to mock your lacking length, and lets you by out of pity >Anon's D&D character later dies from mental damage after the humiliating encounter
can anyone explain how realms work?
I understand that solar systems are inside big crystal spheres, and those big crystal spheres are floating around an opaque rainbow liquid called phlogiston
so, what is a plane and what is a realm? what's surrounding the elemental planes? where are other planes like feywild, carceri, and other stuff?
>so, what is a plane and what is a realm?
Planes are, well, planes of existence. Like parallel dimensions.
I don't think realm is used in D&D cosmology, it just means a region of a prime material world, a kingdom or somesuch. >what's surrounding the elemental planes?
I believe Elemental Planes are infinite in size, so there's nothing surrounding them per se. But in the big scheme of things they should all be connected with the Outer Planes and Prime Material via transition planes, like Astral, and maybe Ethereal? Not sure if Ethereal reaches all the way out to even Elemental Planes though. It's usually pretty limited. >where are other planes like feywild, carceri, and other stuff?
Feywild is a recent (I'm old okay) addition. It's a mirror plane (I can't remember the proper term) to Prime Material, like the Plane of Shadows (now Shadowfell). Those two are like warped reflections of the Prime Material. One bleak and dark, and the other is lush and green.
Carceri is one of the many Outer Planes.
I would recommend 3.5s Manual of the Planes, which also was just one google search away
http://dnd.etherealspheres.com/eBooks/DnD_3.5/core/D&D%203.5%20Manual%20of%20the%20Planes.PDF
DnD or not the ideas and explanations how the expanded cosmology supposedly works in that setting is just fricking cool.
It's also relevant again in 5E, 4E was garbage, so if you care about canon this still is.
If that isnt the case, why arent there more beholders then? Really, armed gangs should pass by every game company and force them to add beholders at gunpoint.
Most of DND licensed monsters are stolen anyway. These were nerds without artistic talent that were trying to turn Lord of the Rings into a tabletop game. They used whatever toys they had lying around for set pieces.
I'm sure whatever starving deprived asiatic or jap that designed this kaiju creatures is basically died completely unaware that Wizards of the Coast would make bank on their designs.
Hell, considering nobody has figured out where these monsters originate, they were probably an attempt to make "not Ultraman Monsters" and have no presence in any media, a pure fabrication of some miserable Chinese "artist" in a sweat shop.
Also. frick the Mods this thread is clearly a BGIII thread.
Yeah, we're on /tg/ now, but this was originally on Ganker. I don't know shit about the DnDdex that's 5x as big as Pokemon outside of the most common things. Most of those toys looked familiar, but the rust monster was odd as hell.
Truth is I don't remember what most of these are either. I think the yellow one is the owl bear and the brown one beside it is the landshark with the funny name.
The remark about /tg/ was a joke but come on, Rust Monster is like still among the top 20 most iconic DnD monsters or something, more obscure than the Bullet for sure
>White
Rust Monster.
I've scoured for any evidence of a remotely similar Kaiju in japanese media and have found nothing that looks like a shrimp fused with a toad. Truly distinct which is what WotC capitalized on. That poor chink... >Brown beaked creature
Bullete/Land Shark. >Yellow beaked monster
Owlbear.
Supposedly among these Umber Hulks were also derived, however none of these creatures look like the first edition artwork of the Umber Hulk, where as the aforementioned monsters are literally 1:1 direct sketches of these toys.
The red therapod dinosaur to the left has mandibles, so it's possible that was the inspiration for the Umber Hulk but they didn't directly plagiarize it considering it's kind of dumb looking.
The Green accordion lizard, bird, Armadillo man, alligator man and horned nose dino don't appear to have ever been used in DND.
I tried again to search the origin of the "dinosaur" toys and at least one listing capitalizing on it being the inspiration for the Rust Monster identifies it as being loosely based on Ultraman monster Kemular
Looking at the tail, I can kind of see how a chinese knock off artist could take this big guy and give us a weird shrimp monster. Notice distinct tail.
I'm actually more interested now in what Ultraman monsters each of these toys is knocking off, rather than whether or not more DND monsters aside from Owlbears, Bulletes or Rust Monsters were inspired by these toys.
That's a first, usually these morons put everything in /b/ or /trash/, an off-topic thread actually moved to where it belongs? LMAO, hope it killed a slow but serious thread.
/v/'s janitors are the biggest group of selective bias homosexuals I have ever had the misfortune of interacting with. Trim your fricking cumbrain drawthread general to /trash/ where it belongs if you want to start somewhere.
So Ganker, I mean, /tg/bros, have you ever fought a beholder? Can you really call yourself a serious RPG fan if you never fought such an iconic monster?
>>>/tg/
This, how dare OP take valuable catalog space from another gacha porn thread
It's no fun discussing anything on /tg/ I don't know, while the posters there seem of much higher quality than this moron swamped shithole, they are also jaded as frick
dont forget slow as shit.
no thread on v could survive as long as some of the threads on tg do
and thats a good thing!
Every /tg/ thread starts with some fat, janny-loving neckbeard saying "it depends on the setting" and shilling his janky furry ERP homebrew system.
Aw little chuddy got chased out instead of farming (You)s with his moronic Ganker questions.
Tough, you're stuck with us now.
Anyway, yes, beholders are visually neat but bizarre, they're socially neat but bizarre, and their game purpose is Prismatic Bullshit on steroids. 10/10.
It's good to know that there are still moderators on Ganker that are at least trying to do their job by moving threads to the appropriate boards.
It is just sad that none of those moderators come to /tg/.
That thread at the bottom of page 11 was just about to become popular!
OP is a thread murderer!
THREAD MURDERER!
BEHOLD
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NIGG
? i hardly know
ER!
I'm not beholden to behold anything!
>Lawful Evil
what
Yes they are very methodical and adhere to their strict schizophrenic ideas so much so that all the IQ in the world can't break them out of their mold.
They're not mindless beasts. They do have some form of society/culture/religion. Theoretically you can also bargain with them if there's something to override their innate xenophobic disposition to just kill you on sight.
How the frick do you develop culture when you despise every single other member of your species and live in total isolation seething about the existance of things that are not you
Racial memory and also some Beholders are born with the innate power to dominate other Beholders, which can be further amplified and expanded by specially "made" relay creatures.
This can grow into whole surveillance nightmare cities of them
By being under the magical influence of a hive mother. Also, beholders *can* tolerate other beholders that are identical to them.
Never met a israelite?
As someone who married a israelite I can tell you they're just tsundere about outsiders.
okay rabbi, now frick off
I stepped on a metal d4 once. That bled a fair bit.
Jews don't tend to murder each other if the nose size differs half an inch
you may want to read up on the history of israel m8
Qrd?
Ashkenazi get killed all the time in isreal because semitic israelites consider them golems or just ter goshav at best.
About that
You have America do it's bidding
>you despise every single other member of your species and live in total isolation seething about the existence of things that are not you
That's just your average Gankerirgin, no?
they are demons and those are baaically forced to abide by their word or any contract they enter.
monkey paw rules apply
>lawful evil
>demon
Devil. But D&D raped those terms a long time ago
Beholders are schizos but as long as you don't trip their autism/paranoia they can be reasoned with, or if they have something greater to gain from working with you instead of zapping you into dust
They're also known as eye tyrants and they are beholder supremecists.
>that one dnd campaign where you have to replace a dead goldfish because a beholder thinks it lives forever and if it finds out the truth it'll go on a rampage and kill all its henchmen
A LOT of things were Lawful Evil in older rules. Orcs were Lawful Evil up through till third, it's why Gruumsh was on Acheron fighting Maglubiyet.
>Armor Class: 0/2/7
>% in Lair: 80%
>Treasure Types: I, S, T
what the frick was going on in old dnd
0 AC is effectively 20AC in the modern system, %in lair is the chance a randomencounter in the overworld is within 1 mile of its lair, treasure types refers to a table of loot that will found in its lair, listed by letter type assuming the maximum for the range is present (though beholder is only ever 1 so it doesnt matter)
so a beholder will have a 30% chance for 3d6x100platinum pieces, 55% 2d10 gems, 50% 1d12 israeliteellry, 15% Any 1 magical item, 40% 2d4 potions, and 50% 1d4 scrolls
Old school D&D had tables to roll for everything quickly instead of intentionally crafting every encounter
kino
GENTLEMEN
beauty is in this guy's eye?
You have to pass his catwalk test.
I think old school D&D looks really cool. The newer stuff (made after the 90's) seems pretty gay.
t. neve touched a ttrpg because no friends
beholder? i hardly even know 'er!
I have beheld it.
I beholding deez nuts.
I can't hold that
Eyeball monsters are such a natural thing to come up with, it's simply laughable Wizards tries to guard them as their intellectual property.
It's the only DnD monster they claimed for their IP.
Not true.
There's also mindflayers and a bunch of others.
Only the lore and specific in-universe names are trademarked, like Illithid or Githyanki. You can still make Mindflayers in anything, it's public domain. Beholders are the only creatures Hasbro has a very specific copyright for that prevents their use in anything else.
So Displacer Beasts (Coeurls) are free game?
Not a D&D creation. Lifted almost wholesale from a sci-fi story from 1939.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Destroyer
Yes I know, hence I said Coeurl because Wizards wouldn't have the legal precedent to actually defend people using the animal and its likeness.
They can't, which is why Final Fantasy has Coeurls too (which is what I thought you were referring to).
FF's has a more different look to them, having its tentacles its whiskers rather than on its back like it originally was
which Wizards just didn't even bother to alter when transplanting it to Forgotten Realms.
A story that old is almost surely public domain by now. They can use stuff from it wholesale without altering it, and so can anyone else. The only thing Wizards can copyright is their own original alterations, so one else can use the name "displacer beast" for example.
I believe I went through all of FF15 without fight one of these
Lots of other fiction still have intelligent deathray eyeball monsters, beholders are just a very specific strain of eyeball monster autism.
>that dude in the middle
how is that homie casting chain lightning while the main eye is looking at him
Maybe those are just very long, bioluminiscent fingernails.
That's clearly shocking touch and it's looking past him
>kills itself if it spins too fast
Wish more games would do that.
It's a big eye and he shoots magic at you and he's super tough
Most cool things imagined back then was done on drugs, or so I'm told
Gary Gygax was pretty much writing down the first thing that comes to mind.
Modrons were when he said "frick it, the dice are enemies now".
Modrons are fricking cool, dunno about the rest of the game but as somebody who only cares about the monsters I'm glad we are out of that fricking 13 year old phase that was 4E, where everything had to be menacing and edgy.
If you've ever stepped on a 1d4 you'd understand.
dude...what if the floor was actually a monster
I love dumb monsters like this, and animated armor. It makes the players really paranoid, and it's funny to watch them start vandalizing things in fear.
There are like 10 different monsters with this gimmick and you can tell they come from a time when people would actually play these games to go dungeoneering instead of having an interactive soap opera with epic stakes.
>you can tell they come from a time when people would actually play these games to go dungeoneering instead of having an interactive soap opera
People who play DnD for RP are so moronic, there's so many better systems for adventuring and RP.
The hardest part of RP is finding a stable group, so the best system is one that has has the most people, even if its the worst
What if the ceiling was a monster..
The entire fricking dungeon? You'd better it's a monster.
>well that dungeon was rough
>thank god my wife's not a monster
That was one of the monsters in the Lankhamar novels and it was genuinely pretty unsettling
Mimic type enemies are my favorite, shame so few games use them.
m-moar?
https://exhentai.org/g/2192407/c38371cbaa/
it has some jelly enema play near the end if you're not into that stuff but the rest is complete gold
i enjoy
>https://exhentai.org/g/2192407/c38371cbaa/
I can't get this to load. Can anyone post the name, so I can find it elsewhere?
google c38371cbaa
>c38371cbaa
well at least I found this thread.
https://e-hentai.org/lofi/g/2192407/c38371cbaa/
this anon has the patience of a zen master
based spoonfeeder
Thanks for the spoonfeeding, it's rare to find this specific fetish fulfilled.
I can share some others if people are into it.
I had to restart my computer because searching this froze my pc
Okay I found it. the name is:
Teikyuu Zako Inma no Shokushu ga Fukai nanode Kankaku Shadan Mahou o Tenkai Shimashita wa!! | This Lowly Incubus Trap's Tentacles Felt Gross So I Cast Sensory Deprivation Magic On Myself!
You probably got logged out of the forums. Just log back in.
That was hotter than I expected.
imo this is the peak of h writing
lots of other people went on the sensory-deprivation-tentacle-pit bandwagon but NOT got the reason why this is so hot. it's the magic contraception and purity devices she has slowly being chipped away by the monster. the sensory deprivation pit is just a way to deliver it in a way that isn't her doing the typical
AIEEEEEEEEEEE IM BEING RAPED
really the peak of fiction if im honest
>rips her soul out of her butthole
>rips all her limbs off
>gives her a penis and a crotch tattoo
Japan is quite something,
was going to call you a liar, but I didn't read the afterward until now
It wasn't her soul, it's mana extraction. Through the ass.
Don't forget level 10 begging for mercy
Imagine the babies between a fricking floor and a woman
starts off okay then goes off the deep end fast wtf
Is there a game that makes use of birch tree monsters? Seems like an easy thing to make.
Video games?
Dunno maybe something Japanese with lots of Yokais.
Table Top?
Just stat it and put it the frick in whenever wherever you want.
Poison birchnut trees from Don't Starve
>campaign where a town gets a mimic infestation
>playground that eats kids
>Doors that open up to a brick wall only to swing the opposite way and slam you into the wall
>curtains grappling PCs
>The final boss was the entire church throwing up bodies from the catacombs
It was fun at first but when it turned into combat around every other corner it stopped being fun.
That's how D&D was made. Just a bunch of people on crack.
Beholders are literally a pun/joke monster
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
one of the meanest traps I ever saw was a simple pit trap that had barbed wire hidden inside the rope that the players were "supposed" to use to swing across the pit.
Oh that's evil. I'm going to have to steal it.
glorified cacodemon
I knew this creature as a Dogezaimon from the original bastard ova before i knew it as a Beholder
This was a pun. It was beholder in the manga too and someone complained that he didn't have the rights so he renamed it dogezaemon after the deep kneeling Japanese apology
D&D is so fricking gay and cringe, holy shit.
die fugger:---DD
Sbegdador :DDD
ʘDDDD
>extremely intelligent
So what the frick do they even do all day? What do they want? What is their problem?
They are extremely xenophobic schizos, this extends the most to their own very mutable race.
>So what the frick do they even do all day?
Scheme for power, hunt food and rack their brains how everyone wants to backstab them because they are the perfect Beholder
>What do they want?
Ideally complete and utter domination over all sentient races so they can't be backstabbed but they aren't stupid and will settle for what is in reach like the town next door or something
>What is their problem?
Literally everybody else
>Scheme for power, hunt food and rack their brains how everyone wants to backstab them because they are the perfect Beholder
everything reminds me of them
Beholder are simply slightly more perceptive and schizo Skaven
>>What is their problem?
>Literally everybody else
I can relate.
They're very greedy and territorial They hoard either knowledge or material wealth. They're also incredibly xenophobic to the point where they will declare war on other beholders because they're a slightly different shade of brown or have a different number of eyestalks.
>They're also incredibly xenophobic to the point where they will declare war on other beholders because they're a slightly different shade of brown or have a different number of eyestalks.
They are literally me
How many eyestalks do you have anon?
They make deep fortresses and fill them with traps. They're crazy paranoid, but also like collecting things.
Schizo paranoid autists who accidentally bend reality with their dreams and hallucinations.
The sometimes just kill themselves by dreaming about creating something nastier than themselves, or dreaming up a litter of kids/clones that go into battle royale mode or quickly run away
Or sometimes they literally dream themselves into undeath.
>dude drugs lmao
No anon, some people are just capable of simple creativity.
>voiced by Tony Jay
Apparently they didn't do enough crack when designing this character.
>Whoever designed Beholders
Terry Kuntz apparently was on crack
Because GG was a big nerd and had a nightmare about behind pursued by a football/
I'm playing DDO and in Eberron, beholders are supposedly created by one of the overlords of the madness realm
Don't these motherfrickers make everything they dream about come true with reality warping? Why don't they just dream about ruling everything?
Why don't you just dream about whatever you want to accomplish? They're not lucid dreamers
You'd think that would be a skill they'd put time towards mastering, but I don't think I've ever seen it come up.
they get pregnant by dreaming about themselves or other beholders fricking them
Not really, it's more like they conjure some of it with can result in new tiny beholders.
babyholders
>New edition lore
Trash.
Beholder's have a womb under their tongue that self impregnates. When the time comes they chew it off and up to six baby beholder rip out of the sac.
The parent Beholder then seeks the Beholder that looks the most like it and attempts to eat the others who either parish or flee.
The dream thing is older than Lords of Madness absolute pretend homosexual.
Beholder's reproducing by dreaming of themselves came from Volo's Guide to monsters from 2016. It is newer than the tongue womb.
Beholders deserve to be friendly with one another.
Anon PLEASE I don't wanna be attracted to a fricking beholder!
Cut that out.
No?
>B-but anon-sama, won't you join me under my parasol? Don't you think the blossoms look lovely this time of year?
>Y-you think the pink makes my eyes pop? Oh, anon! You're too kind to me, I just can't take my gaze off you
The fun part is beholders are autistic enough to create weird personas like that.
Of course Ganker wants to frick a beholder
beholders are pretty cool, they could make a game out of them
>you’re a beholder
>you need to subjugate the adjacent town
> but also put traps in your lair
why are there so many little d&d games? the lore is really huge
a game like this would be really cool
Beholders are considered "product identity" by Wizards of the Coast and thus they are trademarked and you can be sued by making a product out of them.
Just the name Beholder, it's completely fine to use them as a concept
*ahem*
Dragon Dogma had Beholders but they called them something else.
Many Eyes or something
So this game pretends that no race is evil but then there are goblins that even writer self inserts like the dog calls ugly and stupid? and the game pretends that genociding them is just like grinding random monsters?
I'm still not sure how to beat them without the OP items in BG2
Rush and beat to death, reload if somebody died to a stray death beam.
>Beholder being anywhere near the floor
WTF
Army of summoned skeletons.
I like them in Dragon's Dogma.
Everything is better in Dragon's Dogma, specially motherfricking Grigori
One of the coolest enemy design in D&D.
Apparently they got some kind of space empire somewhere so far that it's not reasonable to even try to travel there.
Spell jammer lore is weird and poorly integrated.
You can basically treat them as a different race of beings all together.
>golarion and ebberron in spelljammer
DELETE THIS RIGHT FRICKING NOW
>just a planet called Rage
ah the video games planet.
>Golarion
Hold the FRICK up you're telling me that that motherfricking Mephistopheles that barged into my keep like he owned the place is the very same Mephy that I dabbed on way back in NWN?
Boy is he persistent.
>Forcelia
Okay I'm gonna need a full primer on Spelljammer.
>eye of the beholder
>beholder is a giant eye monster
It's not that deep
>Always thought the cacodemon was supposed to be a weird demonic beholder
>It's actually fricking this thing
thought the cacodemon was supposed to be a weird demonic beholder
well, that's what it is in doom
This guy looks like he's gonna clamp onto your cheeks and eat your ass
...that's an Astral Dreadnought though, it's literally in the image file you posted.
Post vidya Beholders
Starting off with Dragon's Crown
>not the BBI one
Can you find beholders randomly on BG3? Besides that bottle thing.
There's only four spectators and two of them are in the same area iirc
Underdark and Raphael’s house
I can't believe they didn't include a REAL Beholder encounter in BG3. Their CR is only 13, it would have been a perfect secret boss or something.
Because then they'd have to explain why there are no mindflayer beholders
>Dude how to we turn Medusa's head into like, a generic monster?
Terry Kuntz, some buddy of Gygax.
>Beholders with arms and legs
Never do this.
>SO IT'S A GIANT MONSTER EYEBALL RIGHT
>EXCEPT IT HAS ALL THESE EYESTALKS COMING OFF IT TOO, SO IT'S LIKE A GIANT MONSTER EYEBALL WITH A BUNCHA EYESTALKS WRIGGLING AROUND ON IT
>AND GET THIS - ALL OF THE EYESTALK EYES FIRE A DIFFERENT MAGIC BEAM THAT HAS A UNIQUE MAGICAL EFFECT
>OH MY GOD I'M WRITING MY FRICKING ASS OFF OVER HERE, SOMEBODY SET ME UP ANOTHER LINE
I adore gelatinous cubes. The silent death.
I fricked up a high level group pretty good with a cube once
>They try to teleport directly into a dragon's lair
>Dragon had a protection spell set up that any teleport attempts get redirected into a small basement room, hidden trapdoor on the ceiling to leave
>But also a huge gelatinous cube directly above them slowly sliding down
>They were so busy examining the floor/walls for a way out that none of them asked to look above them, and in the dark none of them had the perception to see the cube until it was literally on top of their heads
Delightfully devilish.
>mtg
Just postan' cubes. You can never have enough cubes.
Brutal.
not enough games have slimes or cubes
THE FUN CANNOT BE HALTED
Skeleton jelly.
that artstyle is really fricking gross
Why the frick do japs portray slimes as small fry? They're fricking frightening, and extremely powerful. Immunity to all physical attacks, and the ability to immobilize and kill you regardless of your physical ability.
Because of basic b***h slimes are unthreatening. Also dragon quest.
Even basic b***h slimes should be threatening if they had the most basic predator drive. All they have to do is drop on their prey's head.
It's just a JRPG meme, they are among the badder "mundane" monsters to meet in DnD, with some being an outright frick you if the dm uses the right sort at the wrong time.
Because you're consuming the wrong Japanese games.
It's a shame, but I must admit that I've always liked how Flans look like in Final Fantasy games.
DQ used slimes as the starter enemies instead of rats or whatever
There's still a lot of tougher variations of them at this point in DQ though, Slime Kings, Drake Slimes, Platinum Slimes, etc
like other anons said, dragon quest decided that slimes were fodder enemies and the majority of JRPG's copy dragon quest
Someone made a good post about it, something about how they view acid and parasites or something. I forget.
>Immunity to all physical attacks
Resistant to some, but they're jelly organisms, not living water.
>and the ability to immobilize and kill you regardless of your physical ability
Strength to pull yourself out.
Sounds like you're the kind of chump who thinks skeletons are OP, too.
Skeletons are OP as frick. It's already inside you, and if you try to remove it, you die.
Jokes on you skellygay, i'm deficient in calcium and vitamin D.
I'm crashing this body, WITH NO SURVIVORS!
Because the blob was an american film
>when you nut but the cube keep succ
I'm glad BG3 has revived the interest for D&D aberration monsters. They're my favorite.
how's that book? is it just a monster manual for aberration type monsters?
Nah it goes really fricking indepth with a few of them including Beholders covering everything from biology to culture for like two thirds of the book, the rest is some ontopic game mechanic related stuff, ideas for campaigns and only a very small section with new monsters.
sounds interesting, might get it sometime when I need something to read, thanks anon
yeah i never was interested in dnd stuff before beegeethree. got me into looking at the monster stuff.
It's cool seeing where a lot of my favorite rpg enemy tropes come from. Like
I always wondered why slime girls always have skeletons in them
It's the best supplement ever published for Dungeons & Dragons.
Speaking of D&D I just picked up a pretty spotless copy of Dungeons and Dragons Warriors of the Eternal Sun on the Sega Genesis at a yard sale.
Was this game any good or well recieved? Would old crusty D&D collectors want to give me dosh for it?
Id forgotten I owned Eye of the Beholder but could never play it because I sucked at it. Good times. Maybe I should revisit these kinds of games now that I finished BG3
Just get yourself all seeing eye auto map.
It makes it a bit easier to have the maps ready. Or go full mental and draw your own map. The games are really fun, although a b***h sometimes.
If you really enjoyed them I would also suggest the first Lands of Lore The throne of chaos.
Prime Westwood studios and a fun adventure.
Saved thanks Ill check it out
You can play that game for free on archive.org. They even enabled save data via local storage on your browser.
>was on crack
Tell me you've never done crack without telling me you've never done crack. It is more of an intense euphoria than any alteration of your perception. It feels like you've just won a trillion dollars and been declared ruler of the world, all within a few seconds of inhaling. Then, a few minutes later it feels like the world has lost all its colors and you need that high as soon as possible.
One of my childhood friends turn into a crackhead. When he went into recovery I asked him why he smoked it. Told me the world was brighter and everything just made sense and that he was just chasing that first high feeling every other time.
I love them
>ray hits you on the feet
now what
ehm sorry sweaty that is a bit too complex for dnd rules
wait it didn't even used to be they had different ACs for touch attacks and whatnot. man frick 5e
You're in the dungeon and this guy slaps your healer's ass. What do?
I slap him back
>filename typo
It's raping, not raging.
Slap the DM irl for rocks fall everyone dies bullshit.
lol, what's that limp wristed little gay going to do, say hello sailor until everyone commits hare krishna?
He just lost his earring.
>Yep one of the most powerful monsters in our whole setting is a homosexual hyena man with a flail
He still looks really really unimpressive even in the most tryhard depictions but what the frick were they even thinking with the original illustration, like make him atleast snarl.
Why are they always looking at the camera with a gaping mouth?
they're a primitive form of youtube reacter
Because their dazzling smile always shines! Bad breath? Never! With our new Baldursgate MaxFresh, you'll have whiter teeth in just 3 days! 9 out of 10 dentists recommend it!
millions must die (in my dungeon)
Explain how a creature like the beholder could actually evolve into existence
Arcane bullshit
Nature's mockery
What is even the idea behind this post, we know it was created by literally HP bullshit from a far dimension bleeding into the already very creationist DnD setting.
>Monocular
Large compound eye with coloration that mimics a larger animal's eye
>Lack of limbs
Some form of gastropod, such as a slug.
>Many eyes on stalks
Again, mimicry. Make it appear like there's multiple creatures.
>Floating
I got nothing here. That's impossible with our current understanding of biology. However, it could hang down from transparent mucus, kind of like an adaptation similar to a spider. Gotta be some thick ass mucus though.
>Death eye beam
Impossible...or is it? Glands underneath the large compound eye could expel a horrific concoction of materials that irritate the skin, as well as another chemical that could potentially cause a severe burn. There are animals capable of firing projectiles from their body, and with a large gastropod, it could easily hide numerous organs that exist purely to produce these horrific chemical reactions.
It isn't a super powerful interdimensional monster, but it sure as hell is something I don't ever want to see become real.
>Many eyes
Rather than lazy mimicry with no real value, these could just be extensions of the organs that spray the chemicals. The central eye expulsions would be one chemical, while the tentacle eyes would spray the other.
>Floating
>I got nothing here.
wings that beat so fast the human eye can't perceive them
The hummingbird was something to think of, but unless it was super tiny and required an absurd amount of sugar to survive, fast wings wouldn't work for this.
eh, just make them hungry omnivores that need to eat a lot to survive. they don't have to be super big, even something grapefruit size (max) with that description would be a fricking nightmare
You could make it some kind of arachnid I guess but I feel like bugs are cheating with this kind of thing
>eye-colored thorax
>hanging down via transparent threads
>white bulbous bits on the legs to look like more eyes
>spits a venomous/corrosive fluid from either end, whichever makes sense
It got to see a lot of stuff so it started to get a bigger eye. It's a darwin stuff. Very good for eyesight.
It levitates to move fast. Magical stuff is just random stuff happening in nayure
shut up b***h
>Evolve
It didn't anon. It's a fricking aberration from the Far realms that dreams more of itself into existence.
me with the long sword, wearing a cape and casting magic with my off hand
They are literally Greek myth lmfao
Which exactly?
Literally just a Gorgon
Gorgons were women with snake hair and a petrifying gaze, they weren't flying sentient eyeballs
Remove the head from the body and you might as well have a two-eyed Black personhomosexual flying around.
You are actually fricking moronic.
Stalked eyeballs =/= Snake hair
Huge cyclops potato head =/= normal woman face, at best some reptilian features
NO BODY =/= Female human body, at best a snakes lower body
automatic anti magic field (Central eye) =/= automatic petrifiying gaze
Swiss knive magic lazer battery (eye stalks) =/= just sneks
Not a thing outside of Castlevania, everything above still applies
Behold THIS
*unzips dick*
>Anon drops trow to flash his dick at a beholder
>Beholder looks directly at it for a moment
>Bends one of its tentacles closer to its face and inspects it, gazing back and forth between anon's dick and its own tentacle
>Beholder then laughs its floating ass off, using multiple tentacles to mock your lacking length, and lets you by out of pity
>Anon's D&D character later dies from mental damage after the humiliating encounter
t. Jelly he don't get the small dick pity pass
It's a victory and a loss at the same time. Massive conflicting feelings.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
can anyone explain how realms work?
I understand that solar systems are inside big crystal spheres, and those big crystal spheres are floating around an opaque rainbow liquid called phlogiston
so, what is a plane and what is a realm? what's surrounding the elemental planes? where are other planes like feywild, carceri, and other stuff?
>so, what is a plane and what is a realm?
Planes are, well, planes of existence. Like parallel dimensions.
I don't think realm is used in D&D cosmology, it just means a region of a prime material world, a kingdom or somesuch.
>what's surrounding the elemental planes?
I believe Elemental Planes are infinite in size, so there's nothing surrounding them per se. But in the big scheme of things they should all be connected with the Outer Planes and Prime Material via transition planes, like Astral, and maybe Ethereal? Not sure if Ethereal reaches all the way out to even Elemental Planes though. It's usually pretty limited.
>where are other planes like feywild, carceri, and other stuff?
Feywild is a recent (I'm old okay) addition. It's a mirror plane (I can't remember the proper term) to Prime Material, like the Plane of Shadows (now Shadowfell). Those two are like warped reflections of the Prime Material. One bleak and dark, and the other is lush and green.
Carceri is one of the many Outer Planes.
thanks anons that's interesting
I'm trying to understand how that shit works, it's really cool
Play Planescape: Torment, you will like it
does it use dnd rules? is it based on its lore? or is it just a game that has similar feels?
The gameplay uses 2nd edition adnd think Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, it's set primarily in Sigil, so you're in the center of the multiverse
I would recommend 3.5s Manual of the Planes, which also was just one google search away
http://dnd.etherealspheres.com/eBooks/DnD_3.5/core/D&D%203.5%20Manual%20of%20the%20Planes.PDF
DnD or not the ideas and explanations how the expanded cosmology supposedly works in that setting is just fricking cool.
It's also relevant again in 5E, 4E was garbage, so if you care about canon this still is.
Different dimensions connected through their own dimensional cosmology that isn't the spacial one.
beholders are awesome and they should become public domain so every game can have beholders
It's not like them being trademarked has stopped anybody from using them.
If that isnt the case, why arent there more beholders then? Really, armed gangs should pass by every game company and force them to add beholders at gunpoint.
Dragon's Dogma has them.
Some things do.
There's lots of them in Grim Dawn too, I just love this old card game and wanted to post about it.
>I hardly knew 'er!
Mods are gay
Most of DND licensed monsters are stolen anyway. These were nerds without artistic talent that were trying to turn Lord of the Rings into a tabletop game. They used whatever toys they had lying around for set pieces.
I'm sure whatever starving deprived asiatic or jap that designed this kaiju creatures is basically died completely unaware that Wizards of the Coast would make bank on their designs.
Hell, considering nobody has figured out where these monsters originate, they were probably an attempt to make "not Ultraman Monsters" and have no presence in any media, a pure fabrication of some miserable Chinese "artist" in a sweat shop.
Also. frick the Mods this thread is clearly a BGIII thread.
What the hell is that white one supposed to be?
Rust monster?
Yeah, we're on /tg/ now, but this was originally on Ganker. I don't know shit about the DnDdex that's 5x as big as Pokemon outside of the most common things. Most of those toys looked familiar, but the rust monster was odd as hell.
Truth is I don't remember what most of these are either. I think the yellow one is the owl bear and the brown one beside it is the landshark with the funny name.
The remark about /tg/ was a joke but come on, Rust Monster is like still among the top 20 most iconic DnD monsters or something, more obscure than the Bullet for sure
less obscure*
No one runs Rust Monster in 5e, they'd throw a shitfit
Rust Monster, I thought we are on /tg/ lol
>White
Rust Monster.
I've scoured for any evidence of a remotely similar Kaiju in japanese media and have found nothing that looks like a shrimp fused with a toad. Truly distinct which is what WotC capitalized on. That poor chink...
>Brown beaked creature
Bullete/Land Shark.
>Yellow beaked monster
Owlbear.
Supposedly among these Umber Hulks were also derived, however none of these creatures look like the first edition artwork of the Umber Hulk, where as the aforementioned monsters are literally 1:1 direct sketches of these toys.
The red therapod dinosaur to the left has mandibles, so it's possible that was the inspiration for the Umber Hulk but they didn't directly plagiarize it considering it's kind of dumb looking.
The Green accordion lizard, bird, Armadillo man, alligator man and horned nose dino don't appear to have ever been used in DND.
I think the standing up armadillo might actually have a pincer face which could be the Umber Hulk.
No he has a beak like face from what I can find.
I tried again to search the origin of the "dinosaur" toys and at least one listing capitalizing on it being the inspiration for the Rust Monster identifies it as being loosely based on Ultraman monster Kemular
Looking at the tail, I can kind of see how a chinese knock off artist could take this big guy and give us a weird shrimp monster. Notice distinct tail.
I'm actually more interested now in what Ultraman monsters each of these toys is knocking off, rather than whether or not more DND monsters aside from Owlbears, Bulletes or Rust Monsters were inspired by these toys.
I had these as a kid and I never wondered about which way the arrow of causation went, I just accepted that they existed
Rust monster, Bullete, Owlbear, and maybe the one behind the Owlbear became the Umber Hulk?
What did the others become?
That's a first, usually these morons put everything in /b/ or /trash/, an off-topic thread actually moved to where it belongs? LMAO, hope it killed a slow but serious thread.
Janny is a fricking moron
What is the list of monsters that Wotc have trademarked, patented, whatever lawyer bs?
beholder
gauth
carrion crawler
displacer beast
githyanki
githzerai
kuo-toa
mind flayer
slaad
umber hulk
yuan-ti
https://www.d20srd.org/faq.htm
Best Beholder
/v/'s janitors are the biggest group of selective bias homosexuals I have ever had the misfortune of interacting with. Trim your fricking cumbrain drawthread general to /trash/ where it belongs if you want to start somewhere.
Janitors can't move threads
>cumbrain
Unironically go back
>he's STILL shook by the big bad coomer-killer word
How he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out"
They're a metaphor for the human ego.
You get it once you've meditated and or did acid.
So Ganker, I mean, /tg/bros, have you ever fought a beholder? Can you really call yourself a serious RPG fan if you never fought such an iconic monster?