People hate to admit this, but when Skyrim came out it was, genuinely, a good game. An imrpovement of the forumla. Was it perfect? No. But it was good.
Then came the decade of trying to shill the same game a thousand times that gave fricks like you fatigue- who will now look back and go: "Skyrim actually sucks."
Not at all, no. I still enjoy vidya, unlike most of Ganker, even modern ones
But skyrim, and tes in general is just the epitome of a generic, boring RPG
Morrowind wasnt, ill give you that
8 months ago
Anonymous
Not really. Hindsight is always 20/20. It pushed a lot of boundaries when it came out. Of course if you compare it to what we have now it’s lame but look at what we had back then at the time and yeah it was one of the better RPGs. Witcher 3 maybe but even then that was 4 years after Skyrim.
8 months ago
Anonymous
What boundaries did it push? What did Skyrim do for the genre?
i'm only halfway through the interview but it seems bethesda(todd) are very much expecting to make the game better over time which is something i absolutely have no patience for. maybe my tastes have changed but i can't deal with "forever games" anymore. i want a game to be as good as it ever could be on release day 1 - maybe within the first week if it really needs a patch. not in 6 months or 3 years. i really despise the idea of returning to a game every couple months or once a year to see "hey maybe they fixed that thing that really pissed me off when i was playing it the last time." and here is another thing that has become more and more prevalent over the last 10 years; apparently singleplayer games launch now while they used to have a release date. launch used to be reserved for MMORPGs. that shows the mindset of the whole GAAS approach of modern AAA publishers and developers. "who cares if the game is good on launch, we can just keep working on it for a couple years and it will be good eventually!" and i know why they do it, if you give customers a good game now that doesn't need any patches they gonna finish it over the next 2 weeks(if they actually finish it) and move on which means they won't keep talking about, the game will fade away and so will the DLC sales but if you cut a couple corners in the QA department(saves money) and promise a "road map" of fixes over the coming months the game will stay in the back of peoples minds. "hey, starfield just got patched. played it couple weeks ago, let's fire it up and see what they fixed! oh, they also released some dlc? and i can buy it straight from the main menu? sweet!"
>and I don't understand the overblown the hate
I made at least 3 youtubers delete their videos about the game by forcing them to admit they haven't play it and just parrot other's opinions because they literally knew nothing about the game, hating on Bethesda is literally a fad because it generate views and morons that worship ecelebrities eat it up.
>>and I don't understand the overblown the hate >I made at least 3 youtubers delete their videos about the game by forcing them to admit they haven't play it and just parrot other's opinions because they literally knew nothing about the game, hating on Bethesda is literally a fad because it generate views and morons that worship ecelebrities eat it up.
Absolutely baffling opinions ITT
Bioware is pure dogshit nowadays, yes, but on average they still utterly nogg bethesda and its not even close
Bioware literally has made some of the greatest games in history of vidya while bethesda has made at best a solid, mediocre game. And both studios havent done anything of worth for more than a decade so bioware definitely wins
Bioware went to shit way faster, so it definitely feels worse. Bethesda has consistently gotten worse with every release, so at least it doesn't feel like a betrayal.
Bioware actually put out some nice stuff. Bethedesa ruined videogames by killing id and making idtech5 not free or available. Skyrim and Morrowind were ok though. Nothing compared to Morrigan.
All bethesda games are bad, every last one, to the point where I immediately look down on anyone who plays them. Bioware made good games with BG1 and 2, then made a mediocre game with NWN, then made many bad bethesda tier games, although in biowares defense they at least have the decency to die quietly while taking as few people with them as possible, whereas bethesda continues to be a catastrophic diarrhea tsunami that is profoundly dragging down the entire industry.
>All bethesda games are bad, every last one, to the point where I immediately look down on anyone who plays them.
You're a little girl. No one cares what you think.
Bethesda, easily. I've never seen a game more boring and "normal" than Starfield. Even AI could generate a more interesting game. Easily the worst game(with a budget) of the century so far.
Even with all the utter trash bioware is making now, doesnt change the fact that they are historically one of the GOAT studios
Betheseda was never truly great
Bioware. Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3/NV are good.
>Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3/NV are good.
No they aren't lol
>look at me le contrary contrarian
People hate to admit this, but when Skyrim came out it was, genuinely, a good game. An imrpovement of the forumla. Was it perfect? No. But it was good.
Then came the decade of trying to shill the same game a thousand times that gave fricks like you fatigue- who will now look back and go: "Skyrim actually sucks."
only morrowind and nv are good
Oblivion is far better than you remember.
Considering BioWare hasn’t made a good game since mass effect 2 ide say bioware.
you have to remember bethesda hasn't made a good game since the original xbox
so bioware is better
Skyrim is good even without mods.
Wrong
Yup
Cope contrarian
disagree, it's super boring
They hate him because he spoke the truth.
Its genuinely one of the most boring and generic rpgs ever created
I think you are only saying that because you are jaded with video games in general and not just Skyrim.
Not at all, no. I still enjoy vidya, unlike most of Ganker, even modern ones
But skyrim, and tes in general is just the epitome of a generic, boring RPG
Morrowind wasnt, ill give you that
Not really. Hindsight is always 20/20. It pushed a lot of boundaries when it came out. Of course if you compare it to what we have now it’s lame but look at what we had back then at the time and yeah it was one of the better RPGs. Witcher 3 maybe but even then that was 4 years after Skyrim.
What boundaries did it push? What did Skyrim do for the genre?
But enough about Elden Ring
starfield>andromeda
its just that simple
Wow that's a hot take now chap, Andromeda is trash, but hey it's Starfield you're talking about.
Starfield is genuinely a good game and I don't understand the overblown the hate
Sure the exploration sucks but so did ME1
i'm only halfway through the interview but it seems bethesda(todd) are very much expecting to make the game better over time which is something i absolutely have no patience for. maybe my tastes have changed but i can't deal with "forever games" anymore. i want a game to be as good as it ever could be on release day 1 - maybe within the first week if it really needs a patch. not in 6 months or 3 years. i really despise the idea of returning to a game every couple months or once a year to see "hey maybe they fixed that thing that really pissed me off when i was playing it the last time." and here is another thing that has become more and more prevalent over the last 10 years; apparently singleplayer games launch now while they used to have a release date. launch used to be reserved for MMORPGs. that shows the mindset of the whole GAAS approach of modern AAA publishers and developers. "who cares if the game is good on launch, we can just keep working on it for a couple years and it will be good eventually!" and i know why they do it, if you give customers a good game now that doesn't need any patches they gonna finish it over the next 2 weeks(if they actually finish it) and move on which means they won't keep talking about, the game will fade away and so will the DLC sales but if you cut a couple corners in the QA department(saves money) and promise a "road map" of fixes over the coming months the game will stay in the back of peoples minds. "hey, starfield just got patched. played it couple weeks ago, let's fire it up and see what they fixed! oh, they also released some dlc? and i can buy it straight from the main menu? sweet!"
>and I don't understand the overblown the hate
I made at least 3 youtubers delete their videos about the game by forcing them to admit they haven't play it and just parrot other's opinions because they literally knew nothing about the game, hating on Bethesda is literally a fad because it generate views and morons that worship ecelebrities eat it up.
No. No you didnt.
It's like in show business anon, you grow your own channel on ashes of others nerds that couldn't take the heat.
>>and I don't understand the overblown the hate
>I made at least 3 youtubers delete their videos about the game by forcing them to admit they haven't play it and just parrot other's opinions because they literally knew nothing about the game, hating on Bethesda is literally a fad because it generate views and morons that worship ecelebrities eat it up.
Bioware for shit combat and annoying story. At least Elder Scrolls and Fallout series gives more player agency.
Nu-Bioware is easily one of the worst developers.
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Absolutely baffling opinions ITT
Bioware is pure dogshit nowadays, yes, but on average they still utterly nogg bethesda and its not even close
Bioware literally has made some of the greatest games in history of vidya while bethesda has made at best a solid, mediocre game. And both studios havent done anything of worth for more than a decade so bioware definitely wins
Bioware went to shit way faster, so it definitely feels worse. Bethesda has consistently gotten worse with every release, so at least it doesn't feel like a betrayal.
Bioware actually put out some nice stuff. Bethedesa ruined videogames by killing id and making idtech5 not free or available. Skyrim and Morrowind were ok though. Nothing compared to Morrigan.
Bioware has higher highs and lower lows
Bethesda is consistent
All bethesda games are bad, every last one, to the point where I immediately look down on anyone who plays them. Bioware made good games with BG1 and 2, then made a mediocre game with NWN, then made many bad bethesda tier games, although in biowares defense they at least have the decency to die quietly while taking as few people with them as possible, whereas bethesda continues to be a catastrophic diarrhea tsunami that is profoundly dragging down the entire industry.
>All bethesda games are bad, every last one, to the point where I immediately look down on anyone who plays them.
You're a little girl. No one cares what you think.
Bioware haven't taken a setting I liked and made it worse, they just stick to ruining their own settings.
Bethesda is just stagnant, bioware seems to get worse with time.
Bioware were once great
Bethesda was always mediocre
Dunno which is worse
Everything is shit and it just keeps getting worse
Old Bioware
>Baldur's Gate
>MDK2
>Neverwinter Nights
>Mass Effect
>Dragon Age
Old Bethesda
>Daggerfall
>Morrowind
>Oblivion
Bioware wins, unless we count Arkane in, in which case it'd be a tie.
New Bioware and new Bethesda both suck.
Bethesda, easily. I've never seen a game more boring and "normal" than Starfield. Even AI could generate a more interesting game. Easily the worst game(with a budget) of the century so far.
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Even with all the utter trash bioware is making now, doesnt change the fact that they are historically one of the GOAT studios
Betheseda was never truly great
Blizzard
I'd rather play DAO than any one of the janky open world bethslops.
Even inquisition and andromeda were better games than fallout 4 and starfield
Now anthem is just inexcusable