>Gentlechad finished the Battle Resort so quickly that he went on vacation by the time you arrived
GentleGODs just keep on winning, baby. Probably because they don’t use shitmons like Vileplume and Murkrow
gentleCHAD gang rise up. karen's point has been proven false time and time again. grimsley IMO just spouts schizobabble. the truth is there are many cases of pokemon being outclassed by one another. my favorite example is fearow vs dodrio vs pidgeot. gen 1 typeisms aside, you have two pokemon here that are completely inferior. if it's winning battles that's important, you must pick the one that statistically wins.
Most of the fanbase are shiteating autists who will slurp up whatever sludge Game Freak pulls out of their ass as well as little kids who don't know any better.
TPC could stop makin games and still survive solely on merch.
And competitive players of said games are just a small fraction of the overall player base, so yeah, you are the irrelevant ones here.
Marge, I'm confused. Why is the person making this meme trying to make it seem like OHKOing a Pokémon with 55 physical defense by using a STAB-boosted physical move is a major accomplishment?
Well, Karen, I guess. You can literally beat the games with a team of your favorites even if they're not the strongest pokémon, so why would I discard my favs over stronger ones that I don't really care about?
>winning with your favorites is a test of your skills >if you have to win at any cost then you should use the strongest Pokemon >if you lose it's because you didn't make the best use of what you have
All of these can coexist
You make a team you think has the best chances at winning and go wild with it regardless of what your opponent has, I side a bit more with the gentleman because team building for a meta feels a lot more important to me
Karen's logic only really holds up with anime logic. Gentlemen is reasonable and understands battling. Grimsley is a cringy try hard who needs to take a walk outside.
Real gigabrain overlords start team building with mons theyre interested in using (Karen), learn and understand their unique assets and adapt those movesets/playstyles to common meta threats (Grimsley), and make occasional substitutions for more apt team members to round the team out (Gentleman).
Making successful off-meta teams with this method is completely feasible, so long as your favorites arent bottom tier shitmons
Karen’s statement is pure cope to excuse how much of a jobber she is by saying she “uses her favorites”. It also brushes over how many people’s favorite mons (pseudos, starters, etc.) are their favorites BECAUSE they’re strong, and implies that if your favorite mon is meta, then you’re a “fake fan”, and you’re purely using them to win.
Meanwhile, Grimsley is at least honest with the fact that he’s forced to be a mono-Dark user, and so his team options are limited. If you beat him, it’s because you’re genuinely a good trainer, not because he’s intentionally gimping himself.
It doesn't imply that at all. It doesn't matter if a Pokemon is strong or not, you just use your favorites. If your favorites are strong Pokemon, then so be it.
Picture this if you will: Little Karen, age 6, following Pokémon's Karen advice because they have the same name, so she hops in to online battles with her favourite Pokémon: Eevee, Furret, Flaffy, Ledian, Unown and Magcargo.
1. You are expecting little Karen, a little child, to know all of the nuances.
2. You are expecting little Karen to play a metagame outside of the game itself just for the possibility of her Pokémon having a fighting chance.
3. You are locking Karen into a metagame filled to the brim with inactivity.
4. You are not taking into account that online battles don't take into account previously mentioned fan-made metagames any way.
5. You are not taking into account that Eevee is an unevolved form, and as such was designed to be weaker.
6. You are not taking into account that Furret and Flaffy are outclassed by Pokémon with better stats and movepools, and whatever they can do, little Karen could do with other Pokémon-
6. You are not taking into account that Ledian and Magcargo are unable to fulfill even the slightest of niches, because they are terrible Pokémon in all Pokémon games, even spin-offs.
7. Unown.
TL;DR Fan-fic meta will not save little Karen the disappointment that if she wants to win she has to use whatever the metagame requires or whatever is the 'cheapest' option such as minimize spams.
Little Karen is a stupid kid lmao.
Giving up on her favorites just because she couldn't find a way to make them work, what a sad mindset.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>You just haven't tried the right combination!
My dude, these games are one of the most played in the Earth. There is a dedicate fandom of thousands that examine every little detail. What makes you think an individual can make the difference when hundreds have studied and documented every single possible scenario? In what world can you make Unown work?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Giving up on her favorites just because she couldn't find a way to make them work
You mean finding other mons to complement her favorite mon and cover its weaknesses? Because that’s Team Grimsley. Team Karen just wants to unga bunga with her mid-IV, un EV-trained single-player team, and accuses anyone who beats her of being a tryhard.
6 months ago
Anonymous
way to flip an inspiring speech to motivate the player into a crude mockery of her character
You can spam items and finish the game with ANY pokémon or use arbitary rules.
But on a real battle 6vs6 versus another person, with actual strategies, you will always lose.
Why are you even defending the concept of shitmons?
>w-well you can do it ingame but within my fanfic rules you can't do it
*yawn*
they don't use items in battle in those videos and all of them are 1v6 besides unown btw
any other copium?
awwww boohoo
someone actually putting the time into their life to worry about competitive pokemon?
VGC called, dipshit. get your head out of your ass, go down to doubles, and get your shit rocked by an ugly fish and bara freddy fazbear
>Karen, the elite 4 trainer who represents the second to last step of an in-game clear, should account for online competition 20 years in the future when talking to the player.
What a cope
The first Japanese Pokemon Stadium game was literally made for tournament play, you fricking moron. Notably, the exact pool of Pokemon available would make Grimsley correct.
>Typical "shitmons" were OU in gen 2 >Ledian was OU >Magcargo was OU >Furret was OU
Winning with your favorites was even more viable back then, buddy. Maybe think before pulling shit like this.
You can win with everything there except unown and you might still pull out a win out of your ass with unown on your team depending on how elaborate your strat js
>Gentlechad finished the Battle Resort so quickly that he went on vacation by the time you arrived
GentleGODs just keep on winning, baby. Probably because they don’t use shitmons like Vileplume and Murkrow
It's Grimsley. People always bring up muh Pachirisu in favor of Karen, but it's really in favor of what he's saying. Pachirisu was the result of a meta in which it specifically was able to shine as other usual options were absent.
Whoever the guy on the right is is moronic. You aren't dealt any specific set of pokemon in life, you can use literally whatever you like most the time.
MY HERO Grimmsley even if he would frick the entire gang over at the first opportunity to save his own skin and run off with all the money (I’d still deeply admire him)
>As a gambler, Grimsley knows that the outcome of a gamble doesn't have to be confined to wins or losses. Sometimes there's victory in defeat, or vice versa. The outcomes in life aren't black and white, and might sometimes different than what we expect going in.
Or like, when you flip a coin and it rolls under the couch and you can't find it again.
It's good to play with your favorites, but you should still try and strategize with your teams and get an even spread and such.
Like no reason you should have two of a same type on your team, and you need to create move builds and strats to make the most of your favorites. You should have multiple favorites with multiple rolls, and build a team per game. If two of your favorite pokemons don't work in a team, use one in one game and one in another. Or switch em out.
Work with your favorites, but you'll have to make some comprises here and there.
Pulling off meme strats with your favorites is actually one of the best parts of pokemon
Grimsley sounds like a guy that really fricking loves playing oldschool roguelikes or is enjoying Nuzlockes (in their original formula, not some hardcore homosexualry where player is encouraged to reset when they got bad luck).
Sometimes you get yourself handful of game-breaking options. Sometimes you'll need to learn how to survive on scraps with bunch of literally the worst possible tools. Complaining about quality of tools available to you or acting holier than though because you feel like you're supposed to beat the game only with worst possible shit are both mindsets full of homosexualry. Just use what you have and works for you.
grimsley because i wanna frick grimsley
homosexuals burn in eternal flames
Grimsley
karen
Two are in the elite 4 and other is a literal who. Take a guess.
That “literal who” beat the Elite Four
who?
>He thinks a random npc beat the elite 4
>The Battle Maison Receptionist beat the E4
>Maxie and Archie beat the E4
>Shauna, Tierno, and Trevor all beat the E4
I want Karen to step on me, so the choice is easy
>I want Karen to step on me, so the choice is easy
this
males are irrelevant in pokemon
Grimsley will not use kingambit in the remake because it would scare the unovazoomzooms
>real battles
talking like his survival is at stake, cringe lol
If you lose your opponent has the right to rape you. Real battles are no joke
>Karen: I don't get it, your team is clearly stronger, why do you keep losing it's almost like you're doing it on purpose!!
I bullet seed all 3 and join Rocket Gang
Karen
Gentlemen > Grimsley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karen
gentleCHAD gang rise up. karen's point has been proven false time and time again. grimsley IMO just spouts schizobabble. the truth is there are many cases of pokemon being outclassed by one another. my favorite example is fearow vs dodrio vs pidgeot. gen 1 typeisms aside, you have two pokemon here that are completely inferior. if it's winning battles that's important, you must pick the one that statistically wins.
Only one of these is actually applicable.
Karen. I love too many shitmons.
So I can challenge the league with 6 Pidgeys? All right, time to train them!
You can. You just have to get them to an extremely high level.
This; just because it's possible doesn't mean it'll be easy.
If you need to overlevel with a team as strong as that, you suck at these games.
%3D%3D
Umm, Gentlemanbros?
Comp is all that matters. Actual Pokemon has been shit for an entire decade now. Competitive play is the ONLY thing that matters anymore.
TCG, anime, spinoffs (minus Mystery Dungeon), and merch have always been shit
>rillagay is a poltard
typical
>/pol/
???
>merch have always been shit
Okay, you know that's going too far. That matters to the franchise more than competitive play.
Captcha: YYYYV
Anyone who has Pokemon merch is a lower class of human. The only thing that's ever mattered is the games.
>The only thing that's ever mattered is the games.
It should, but not in TPC's eyes.
The people who care about comp are a small percentage in the overall fanbase of pokemon.
Most of the fanbase are shiteating autists who will slurp up whatever sludge Game Freak pulls out of their ass as well as little kids who don't know any better.
Not too different from VGCplayers who got disqualified and demand respect for genning mons. You're right
TPC could stop makin games and still survive solely on merch.
And competitive players of said games are just a small fraction of the overall player base, so yeah, you are the irrelevant ones here.
Marge, I'm confused. Why is the person making this meme trying to make it seem like OHKOing a Pokémon with 55 physical defense by using a STAB-boosted physical move is a major accomplishment?
Well, Karen, I guess. You can literally beat the games with a team of your favorites even if they're not the strongest pokémon, so why would I discard my favs over stronger ones that I don't really care about?
>winning with your favorites is a test of your skills
>if you have to win at any cost then you should use the strongest Pokemon
>if you lose it's because you didn't make the best use of what you have
All of these can coexist
Gentleman and grimsley have the best approach
You make a team you think has the best chances at winning and go wild with it regardless of what your opponent has, I side a bit more with the gentleman because team building for a meta feels a lot more important to me
Karen's logic only really holds up with anime logic. Gentlemen is reasonable and understands battling. Grimsley is a cringy try hard who needs to take a walk outside.
All 3 are based and truthpilled.
Real gigabrain overlords start team building with mons theyre interested in using (Karen), learn and understand their unique assets and adapt those movesets/playstyles to common meta threats (Grimsley), and make occasional substitutions for more apt team members to round the team out (Gentleman).
Making successful off-meta teams with this method is completely feasible, so long as your favorites arent bottom tier shitmons
Something something quotations book up your fat fricking ass
Grimsley's statement isn't exactly opposed to Karen's imo
Karen’s statement is pure cope to excuse how much of a jobber she is by saying she “uses her favorites”. It also brushes over how many people’s favorite mons (pseudos, starters, etc.) are their favorites BECAUSE they’re strong, and implies that if your favorite mon is meta, then you’re a “fake fan”, and you’re purely using them to win.
Meanwhile, Grimsley is at least honest with the fact that he’s forced to be a mono-Dark user, and so his team options are limited. If you beat him, it’s because you’re genuinely a good trainer, not because he’s intentionally gimping himself.
It doesn't imply that at all. It doesn't matter if a Pokemon is strong or not, you just use your favorites. If your favorites are strong Pokemon, then so be it.
TEAM KAREN
Would've been Grimsley Gang but I don't agree that life is a serious battle 🙂
>Following the advice of a generic NPC
Team Karen!
Real talk:
Would people still agree with Karen if she looked like some old hag like Agatha instead of smug e-thot with midriff?
People have been quoting Karen even when her only appearance was tiny sprite that they’d only see for a couple seconds so I’d say yes
The quote could've been said by a NPC Poké Fan like the Gentleman over there and people would still agree.
>Just use your favorites
Ok. He is my favorite then.
Your favorite is ugly
Picture this if you will: Little Karen, age 6, following Pokémon's Karen advice because they have the same name, so she hops in to online battles with her favourite Pokémon: Eevee, Furret, Flaffy, Ledian, Unown and Magcargo.
She gets demolished,
>ifunny logo
Focus on the message, not the messenger.
Ok, then Little Karen wasn't using her team to the best of it's ability.
People do still play in NU and PU formats for a reason.
1. You are expecting little Karen, a little child, to know all of the nuances.
2. You are expecting little Karen to play a metagame outside of the game itself just for the possibility of her Pokémon having a fighting chance.
3. You are locking Karen into a metagame filled to the brim with inactivity.
4. You are not taking into account that online battles don't take into account previously mentioned fan-made metagames any way.
5. You are not taking into account that Eevee is an unevolved form, and as such was designed to be weaker.
6. You are not taking into account that Furret and Flaffy are outclassed by Pokémon with better stats and movepools, and whatever they can do, little Karen could do with other Pokémon-
6. You are not taking into account that Ledian and Magcargo are unable to fulfill even the slightest of niches, because they are terrible Pokémon in all Pokémon games, even spin-offs.
7. Unown.
TL;DR Fan-fic meta will not save little Karen the disappointment that if she wants to win she has to use whatever the metagame requires or whatever is the 'cheapest' option such as minimize spams.
Little Karen is a stupid kid lmao.
Giving up on her favorites just because she couldn't find a way to make them work, what a sad mindset.
>You just haven't tried the right combination!
My dude, these games are one of the most played in the Earth. There is a dedicate fandom of thousands that examine every little detail. What makes you think an individual can make the difference when hundreds have studied and documented every single possible scenario? In what world can you make Unown work?
>Giving up on her favorites just because she couldn't find a way to make them work
You mean finding other mons to complement her favorite mon and cover its weaknesses? Because that’s Team Grimsley. Team Karen just wants to unga bunga with her mid-IV, un EV-trained single-player team, and accuses anyone who beats her of being a tryhard.
way to flip an inspiring speech to motivate the player into a crude mockery of her character
Karen only says it when you defeat her, as a compliment.
>in-game clear
Woow. It's nothing.
>w-well you can do it in the game but in the scenario inside my head you can't do it!!
cope, and sneethe
You can spam items and finish the game with ANY pokémon or use arbitary rules.
But on a real battle 6vs6 versus another person, with actual strategies, you will always lose.
Why are you even defending the concept of shitmons?
>w-well you can do it ingame but within my fanfic rules you can't do it
*yawn*
they don't use items in battle in those videos and all of them are 1v6 besides unown btw
any other copium?
In those videos they didn't use items
All these challenges are no items.
Did you even click the embed?? Half of them say that in the title of the video.
awwww boohoo
someone actually putting the time into their life to worry about competitive pokemon?
VGC called, dipshit. get your head out of your ass, go down to doubles, and get your shit rocked by an ugly fish and bara freddy fazbear
No one uses Sunflora, Ditto, or Shuckle in VGC
>Karen, the elite 4 trainer who represents the second to last step of an in-game clear, should account for online competition 20 years in the future when talking to the player.
What a cope
The first Japanese Pokemon Stadium game was literally made for tournament play, you fricking moron.
Notably, the exact pool of Pokemon available would make Grimsley correct.
>Typical "shitmons" were OU in gen 2
>Ledian was OU
>Magcargo was OU
>Furret was OU
Winning with your favorites was even more viable back then, buddy. Maybe think before pulling shit like this.
>schizo headcanon.
>Never actually played Stadium
the frick kind of metagame was Stadium?
>johto
yeah no fricking shit, due to the bad level design you're fighting trainers in their mid 20s for the last half johto and most of kanto
You can win with everything there except unown and you might still pull out a win out of your ass with unown on your team depending on how elaborate your strat js
People forget that that Gentleman is from a battle facility.
So he is much more powerful than the E4.
Except he isn't, he sits on the beach outside the Battle Resort.
He doesn't even challenge you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gentlebros...
We were supposed to be superior...
>Gentlechad finished the Battle Resort so quickly that he went on vacation by the time you arrived
GentleGODs just keep on winning, baby. Probably because they don’t use shitmons like Vileplume and Murkrow
Karen is a stupid b***h. what if my favorites are also strong?
>quote gsc karen
>post her inferior hgss redesign
huh
It's Grimsley. People always bring up muh Pachirisu in favor of Karen, but it's really in favor of what he's saying. Pachirisu was the result of a meta in which it specifically was able to shine as other usual options were absent.
Whoever the guy on the right is is moronic. You aren't dealt any specific set of pokemon in life, you can use literally whatever you like most the time.
What if they were cut from the dex?
Okay you still have 800 other pokemon to choose from, that's not comparable to a hand in a card game at all.
I thought the idea though is that you're only allowed to bring 6 (or whatever format you're playing) into battle itself, which would be your 'hand'
MY HERO Grimmsley even if he would frick the entire gang over at the first opportunity to save his own skin and run off with all the money (I’d still deeply admire him)
>A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...
what the frick does this even mean
It can land on the edge, assuming the ground is perfectly even, and it’s not windy
>As a gambler, Grimsley knows that the outcome of a gamble doesn't have to be confined to wins or losses. Sometimes there's victory in defeat, or vice versa. The outcomes in life aren't black and white, and might sometimes different than what we expect going in.
Or like, when you flip a coin and it rolls under the couch and you can't find it again.
>Or like, when you flip a coin and it rolls under the couch and you can't find it again.
Do you lack object permanence
>The outcomes in life aren't black and white
Bravissimo Masuda
He catches the coin in mid flip and doesn't show you which way it faces
Grab the coin out of the air before it lands. Flip the table. If you can't win the game then change the rules.
Lost to a Gliscor? Ban it.
Karen
Grimsley since I'd probably be a monotype trainer. Gentlemen otherwise
Karen with a bit of Gentleman
It's good to play with your favorites, but you should still try and strategize with your teams and get an even spread and such.
Like no reason you should have two of a same type on your team, and you need to create move builds and strats to make the most of your favorites. You should have multiple favorites with multiple rolls, and build a team per game. If two of your favorite pokemons don't work in a team, use one in one game and one in another. Or switch em out.
Work with your favorites, but you'll have to make some comprises here and there.
Pulling off meme strats with your favorites is actually one of the best parts of pokemon
Karen for ingame. Gentleman for postgame and comp. Grimsley for randbats and encountering a sheer cold Walrein on your winning streak.
Grimsley's opinion is correct but doesn't have much to so with the dicothomy of the other 2
Grimsley
Karen is all cope
Grimsley sounds like a guy that really fricking loves playing oldschool roguelikes or is enjoying Nuzlockes (in their original formula, not some hardcore homosexualry where player is encouraged to reset when they got bad luck).
Sometimes you get yourself handful of game-breaking options. Sometimes you'll need to learn how to survive on scraps with bunch of literally the worst possible tools. Complaining about quality of tools available to you or acting holier than though because you feel like you're supposed to beat the game only with worst possible shit are both mindsets full of homosexualry. Just use what you have and works for you.
Grimsley chads stay winning