Fpbp, sonic "games" have 2 design philosophies: >the level literally plays by itself >the level is full of traps, walls, enemies, and pitfalls that stop you in your tracks, encouraging replaying the same level over and over to do it perfectly, creating an extremely autistic diaper shitting fanbase that produces abominations like pic related
Then sonic will probably be better
If it has a nice amount of content
Sonic games are famously replayable and reward skillful play
But if you're already good it feels lacking
Shitters love sonic 2 (despite 3K being superior) because its the easiest and most mindless one
But they hate 1 and CD because they are tough
Coincidence?
Then sonic will probably be better
If it has a nice amount of content
Sonic games are famously replayable and reward skillful play
But if you're already good it feels lacking
>Arzest
Sonic is fricked, unfortunately. Mario is giving off massive Land vibes too, so even if Headcanon and Stealth were at the helm, they'd have a hard time competing.
Sonic games are arcade games at their core
They are meant to be difficult until you get good at them
This has disappeared in modern arcade games (Roguelites), where you are rewarded not for your skill, but your time, in the form of metaprogression.
In sonic, you NEED to get good, You NEED to learn the level or atleast get the game feel, you NEED to get better at high scores, at keeping rings and speed, at special stages, you NEED to execute well to earn your good times and fun.
Zoomers and arcade games are a mismatch
And if you arent a zoomer, try playing more arcade / old school games
yeah, but with sonic games it's more fun because it's built around that concept
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Maybe I'm just being very filtered
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Anonymous
admittedly the classic sonic formula hasn't evolved much since the genesis. like you said rings are mostly useless, and no one these days cares about points or time unless there are rewards or rankings tied to them. and i doubt sonic superstars will try to fix any of that
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Not really, Sonic puts a lot of it's obstacles at a point where maybe at best a fighter pilot could react, it's built around memorization, the games are short but are made to be replayable, but then replayabilty ends really quickly, the levels are good as an idea but in reality they shit themselves hard, Mania fixed this for the most part balancing conservation of momentum with hazards, also being widescreen really helped, the addition of more characters also helped a fair bit.
Yeah I'll just stick with the classic Mario and Sonic games thank you very much. You zoomers can go ahead and fight it out over which serving of slop tastes slightly better.
the stubby maring unironically made me seriously consider getting the rpg remaster and this platformer, whatever it's called
would be the first time my switch saw any actual action, thus far 99% of its usage was youtube
There's a number of reasons why BDSP are bad as they're almost glorified ports, but they had no good reason to go back to a chibi overworld that looks arguably worse than the originals' own stylistically when the previous set of remakes before it tried a halfway solution that looked fine.
>4-player simultaneous multiplayer sonic game
What happens if someone falls behind? Can they just press a button to hop into a bubble like in NSMB Wii?
Hopefully neither. I'm disappointed with both not doing anything to innovate 2d platformer level design and playing it safe. Both look dull and look like they came out 25 years ago. They both can do better than this.
Sonic has never been better than Mario
the genesis sonics mog every 2D mario ever released
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nah
Nah, even Sonic 3, arguably the best 2-D Sonic ever along some of the kino GBA titles, doesn’t stand a chance against SMB3, World and Yoshi’s Island.
Truth
SMW and SMB3 are very gut. Try harder.
This. Only exceptions are mario 3 and SMW which are equal in quality
SMB3 alone has mogged anything Sonic has put out even Mania
Fpbp, sonic "games" have 2 design philosophies:
>the level literally plays by itself
>the level is full of traps, walls, enemies, and pitfalls that stop you in your tracks, encouraging replaying the same level over and over to do it perfectly, creating an extremely autistic diaper shitting fanbase that produces abominations like pic related
fp fricking bp. Genesis was the closest they got. It sure as hell isn't gonna be Sonic this time since they fired the guy who made Mania.
Who cares gay
depends. is sonic team making right or not?
Probably
Arzest is lmao
Then sonic will probably be better
If it has a nice amount of content
Sonic games are famously replayable and reward skillful play
But if you're already good it feels lacking
>Sonic games are famously replayable and reward skillful play
The copium is slready starting
Shitters love sonic 2 (despite 3K being superior) because its the easiest and most mindless one
But they hate 1 and CD because they are tough
Coincidence?
Arzest have never made a good game
Always a first time for everything and based on the evidence this seems to be it.
the yo-yo girl game
Not really even a question
>Sonic
yeah I wouldn't put money on a sonic game ever being better than anything but you never know
Sonic was never good
mario
On a scale of 1-Canadian hospital, how badly does Sega want to kill themselves now?
>Arzest
Sonic is fricked, unfortunately. Mario is giving off massive Land vibes too, so even if Headcanon and Stealth were at the helm, they'd have a hard time competing.
I don't really understand sonic games, it's about going as fast possible but the levels have multiple branching paths and sections that slow you down
Sonic games are arcade games at their core
They are meant to be difficult until you get good at them
This has disappeared in modern arcade games (Roguelites), where you are rewarded not for your skill, but your time, in the form of metaprogression.
In sonic, you NEED to get good, You NEED to learn the level or atleast get the game feel, you NEED to get better at high scores, at keeping rings and speed, at special stages, you NEED to execute well to earn your good times and fun.
Zoomers and arcade games are a mismatch
And if you arent a zoomer, try playing more arcade / old school games
You didn't explain the contradictory game design
>In sonic, you NEED to get good
Why? You can limp to the finish in any time with 0 rings
Good luck getting the true ending and super sonic like that bucko
>Why?
the intrinsic satisfaction of playing the game well
But that's true for any game
yeah, but with sonic games it's more fun because it's built around that concept
Maybe I'm just being very filtered
admittedly the classic sonic formula hasn't evolved much since the genesis. like you said rings are mostly useless, and no one these days cares about points or time unless there are rewards or rankings tied to them. and i doubt sonic superstars will try to fix any of that
Not really, Sonic puts a lot of it's obstacles at a point where maybe at best a fighter pilot could react, it's built around memorization, the games are short but are made to be replayable, but then replayabilty ends really quickly, the levels are good as an idea but in reality they shit themselves hard, Mania fixed this for the most part balancing conservation of momentum with hazards, also being widescreen really helped, the addition of more characters also helped a fair bit.
Would you rather slog thru the whole game clutching your life onto a ring
Or actually enjoy it?
You know what? Sonic at least won't ruin its rule 34 page with endless spam of Fat Elephant Porn
I'd gladly trade the comicgays for those people, personally. At least you won't see their shit everywhere like we do.
Bro, your Sonic toilet TF porn?
This is not a problem for anyone who isn't moronic and know what negative tags are.
CHADrio won
Penny's Big Breakaway will be better than every 3D Sonic game, mark my words.
I'm too busy playing real video games
There will never be a better platform game than Plok.
will sonic even be mediorce? usually the games just suck
Almost certainly Mario.
They'll be about the game if this maro game is anying like Odyssey.
I don't really care I'll have fun playing both
that being said I think I'll like sonic more but mario will be more polished/complete
New Mega Man game with co-op Rock, Roll, Proto and Bass when? Is now or never Capcom
Mario
Disingenuous thread. The real winners today are people who like video games.
>soulless 2.5D graphics
>$60
>shoehorned multiplayer
Yeah I'll just stick with the classic Mario and Sonic games thank you very much. You zoomers can go ahead and fight it out over which serving of slop tastes slightly better.
>shoehorned multiplayer
what's it like having no friends to play games with?
Classic Mario and Sonic had both had multiplayer moron
Chibi style was a technical limitation for the original Pokemon DP while in Mario RPG it was an artistic choice.
Meant for
damn I guess its much better when the multiplayer amounted to passing the controller like with Mario World lmao.
lamest copout "feature" ever.
the stubby maring unironically made me seriously consider getting the rpg remaster and this platformer, whatever it's called
would be the first time my switch saw any actual action, thus far 99% of its usage was youtube
Why do people like this but hated D&P remakes?
the chibi look is permanent for D&P. Chibi goes away with a powerup in this game
Because the D&P remakes looked like shit and this doesn't
There's a number of reasons why BDSP are bad as they're almost glorified ports, but they had no good reason to go back to a chibi overworld that looks arguably worse than the originals' own stylistically when the previous set of remakes before it tried a halfway solution that looked fine.
Because they looked fricking horrendous while this doesn't?
Mario will be more fun, but Sonic will be more challenging
>sonic and Mario saved cinema
>Sonic and Mario saved gaming
>Classic Mario and classic Sonic im the same year in 2023
Fricking amazing soul kino
they will be different 🙂
Don't care getting both and that new Mania Team platformer.
Almost certainly mario, I have 0 faith in sonic team.
>4-player simultaneous multiplayer sonic game
What happens if someone falls behind? Can they just press a button to hop into a bubble like in NSMB Wii?
Hoho you mean a TRILOGY of great platformers this year, right guys?
You wouldn't forget about 'ol Mickey would you fellas? Hoho
>made by the same Tumblr morons that made that dogshit Battletoads reboot
Thanks, I'm good.
Sonic
somehow the sonic game has better animation.
mario wonder looks stiff and lifeless.
Whoever loses, I win
Hopefully neither. I'm disappointed with both not doing anything to innovate 2d platformer level design and playing it safe. Both look dull and look like they came out 25 years ago. They both can do better than this.