well. Original Xbox Released with next to nothing but sports.
360 had a staggering 30+% failure rate
Xbox One had the combinations of that always online shit they marketed the system for and even they had zero exclusive games so nobody wanted one.
Microsoft has long since lost all faith of thier prior customers and have decided that a subscription service is the only thing they are good for now so nobody buys a Series X/S because they get all the same shit on PC with the subscription.
Couple all of this with the fact Japan hates the Xbox and last an entire countries playerbase since the beginning.
TL;DR - Nothing but bad decisions from start to finish. The xbox only still yet live because Windows makes money.
360 did incredibly well considering the failure rate. Everybody knew your Xbox could RRoD anytime, and yet you couldn’t turn down Halo multiplayer on Xbox live.
Xbone is where they completely shit the bed. That infamous E3 presentation destroyed the brand. That and they’ve run all their exclusives into the ground. Halo is garbage now. And they can’t get it through their heads that people want to OWN their games.
Sony is well on their way to a similar fall from grace. Mark my words: pride comes before a fall.
>Kill your best franchise by leaving it with people who hated it in it's prime >Now have literally no Identity outside of it's subscription service having a collection of games to play out the box. >Playstation is following suite and porting all their worthwhile games to PC even faster than before
They were set to win with the 360 but fumbled the bag by moving away from building powerhouse exclusive franchises to appealing to casuals with kinect before the casual bubble burst.
you say this, but I have never seen a sadder fall from grace than both Naughty Dog and Insomniac had under Playstation. Bethesda and Arkane were never great studios to begin with and Microsoft had nothing to do with Starfield and Redfall's development process. But Naughty Dog and Insomniac once upon a time were among the best devs out there.
They buy companies that die after one release under Microsoft
The reason Microsoft buys shitty companies is so they can absorb the few talented employees in each one more easily
I used to love the series as a kid. I got the MCC on Steam last year or the year before it. I couldn't even get a few missions into Reach before wanting to stop.
Xbox was a Halo machine and nothing else. 360 dominated even with RROD but forgot to participate in the second half of the generation losing all it's earned ground to Sony. Xbone killed themselves at E3 before even releasing. Xboxsex is just irrelevant and now Microsoft is clearly more interested in pushing Window's Game Pass than it is the Xbox brand.
It was also a Gears and Fable Machine, Those were the best Microsoft could do for major 1st party games and they fumbled them all when they tried to milk that potential.
Sony and Nintendo are far from perfect but they've put out some decent games over the years. I can't think of a single worthwhile Xbox exclusive outside of Bungie Halo and Hifi Rush. There's also RROD, Xbox Live being pure cancer that auto renews whether you want it to or not and have to call customer service to disable, and their consoles being overpriced, underpowered jokes.
you know they fricked up when you rather just buy a secondhand sega saturn and imported japanese games than an xbox series and the slop they sell at amazon
You mean to tell me that Xbox did worse than the Gamecube?
Everyone has been telling me that the GC was a huge flop and that's why Nintendo had to go Blue Ocean with the Wii
The first Xbox was released too late to be a competitor to the PS2. Latter also was the cheapest DVD player on the market. The 360 buck-broke the PS3 in the mid 2000s, but instead of continuing to make good games, MS focused on shit like Kinect. When the 8th generation came about they shot themselves in the foot with required online connections and the inability to share physical copies of games.
They literally left their biggest ip Halo with a dev team run by morons. Microsoft should have purged the entire dev team after what happened with Halo 5 and MCC. But nope, instead they green lit a god awful brand damaging TV show, and made a shitty bare bones GAAS f2p game.
It has gotten so bad, that I often wonder if Microsoft just fricking hates Halo.
nintendo consoles are the only consoles that dont lose value over time. most if not all the exclusives on sony and microsoft consoles end up on pc at some point. "console wars" is just propaganda
Nah, Nintendo consoles are kinda overrated, Sega consoles on the other hand do retain their original value as some games still emulate like shit on those platforms.
Nah they are slop just like the rest,hell I'd say even more so since not only is the hardware garbage ,but outside of a few exceptions the catalogue of games on it is also garbage
The original Xbox was the first and last time Microsoft tried. They really did go all in on producing a wide variety of exclusives. It's just that the normalgay playerbase didn't give a shit outside of Halo, GTA and sports.
it's great how normal people have to live with the consequences of their actions but connected people like this can just frick up over and over and over and over again and contribute nothing to the world and get paid 6 figures for absolutely no reason but anyone that thinks that's bad is a terrorist
Xbox was respectable but effectively saved by Halo. Though its more powerful hardware and similarity to PC gave it the best PC ports.
360 was a hardware disaster (RROD) but had a great mix of games and was innovative in the online space with Arcade, achievements, Live, etc. Their best console despite it all
XBONE was a legitimate disaster they have never recovered from
>halo
They're also bad at managing their other franchises. If you think Halo has it bad look at Fable. Last game released in 2012, they rightfully realised they need to reboot it because the series went the wrong way... 12 years later we've only heard it was scrapped at least twice.
Their strategy of buying a frickload of studios is still not paying off after more than 5 years. Basically everything zenimax/beth was doing was just to make the merger more expensive and the absolute state of Starfield or whatever the last arcane game was called is telling. The smaller studios like Obsidian and inExile have evidently gone for projects that were meant to make them appear more expensive(NOT skyrim and NOT Bioshock) which hints they're also likely shit.
Kinect. 360 was going strong until they decided to put all their eggs into the motion control basket. When it failed they just stopped trying for the rest of the gen. Then tried to push that shit again with the One. Somebody high up at Microsoft thought motion controls were the future and the brand died on that hill.
The post-Kinect 360 was just as bad as the Xbox One in terms of quality and quantity of new games.
Microsoft fricked up big with letting Bungie go, putting disproportionate amounts of resources into making Kinect games, and then immediately doubling down on all their failures and reasons people don't like them with the Xbox One.
They basically annihilated their brand from being on top of the world in 2010, to having nothing but a subscription service and backwards compatibility as selling points by 2016.
It wasn't Kinect itself but the new the ideas that spawned it in the first place. Wii was dominating by reaching the widest audience possible, the family, and Microsoft wanted a piece of that. They lost their identity as the system for mature action games. When CoD started marketing itself with exclusive promotions on Playstation that entire audience went where the games they like were going.
>XBox Huge struggles because it was competing with 2 already established consoles with rabid fanbases >360 falls flat at launch but dominates the late 2000s >Completely fricking destroy the 360's lead in the early 2010s by making the UI the most annoying garbage and constantly telling everyone about the Kinect, going so far as to force developers to shoehorn Kinect support into any game imaginable >Double down on Kinect for the XBox One but with the added touch of adding the most annoying anticonsumer features possible >Completely mishandle all of their major IPs to the point that Halo and Gears of War were developed by people who publicly admitted they wanted the see the series fail
They have only themselves to blame
>going out of their way to frick over consumers at every turn (paid online, trying to remove the concept of used games which ironically Sony picked up on) >moronic naming schemes. "xbox one" "xbox series x" - i can't believe everyone that gave nintendo shit for Wii U are utterly silent about these moronic ass names >no good first party anything, Halo hasn't been good in over a decade, no reason to own an xbox unless you're a moronic gorilla that can't use a PC
makes perfect sense.
microisraelite only launched the shitbox not to try and compete in earnest, but to capture the console market so they could steer them towards lock-in into their walled garden.
microisraelite HATES that the Japanese market isn't under their control, so they've tried their damndest to crack into it and dismantle it.
It’s Switch, PS5, Series
Last gen was Wii U, PS4, Xbone
Before that was Wii, PS3, 360
And before that was GameCube, PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast
If your arguing power it kinda doesn’t matter because we start doing that then Sony is a gen behind because the PS2 was not on the level of GC Xbox
PS2 was on that level, issue was sony was of the belief that unique system architecture and training devs on it was the way forward. That was their system for PS1 and it worked there because the MIPS chip was a fricking turd on n64, plus the other ninty horseshit coming back to bite them in the ass for third parties.
PS2 rode the success of the PS1, and also the fact the PS2 was not just a games console but the cheapest DVD player on the market, bar none, for the first 2 years of it's life, when DVDs were right on the comeup, they picked right and won hard.
PS3 they had bluray and it was the direct cause of the 599 fiasco, but unfortunately bluray wasn't as innovative or important as DVD was at the time, so it didn't sell well, plus the 360 was much cheaper to start, and then throw in the cell which was much harder to develop for than the 360 which had surprisingly similar (not super similar, but more than expected) architecture to PCs of the time, plus MS basically paying for everything up to and including launch fees if you made exclusive (and threatening to disallow you dev kits for every future system if you gave sony any exclusive content) got a lot of people on their side.
PS4 was sony reeling back the horseshit unique architecture, and everyone's right back on it. Even without the backwards compat, people would rather have moved over to avoid MS' horseshit. Even with paid online making them so god damned similar.
PS5 was just 0 question, full bc support, you'd have to be braindead to switch over, and even the diehard xbox fans ate shit as MS has essentially kneecapped the entire generation, especially so on the MS side by demanding devs create series S versions of games.
I'm sure xbox brand isn't hurting with gamespass, but it's definitely not a competitor in any meaningful way anymore.
Sony's power back in the day was their unique architecture. People not utilizing it doesn't mean it's weaker. Gamecube is the same shit. Look at fricking RE4, dude.
The average dev couldn't use EE to the degree it was fully capable of, yeah.
DC had nothing even half as good as ico or SOTC though, I'll die on the hill that PS2 was stronger, it just didn't get any devs focusing on it because that was around the time moronic Black folk started saying exclusives were bad instead of the only good thing about consoles.
well. Original Xbox Released with next to nothing but sports.
360 had a staggering 30+% failure rate
Xbox One had the combinations of that always online shit they marketed the system for and even they had zero exclusive games so nobody wanted one.
Microsoft has long since lost all faith of thier prior customers and have decided that a subscription service is the only thing they are good for now so nobody buys a Series X/S because they get all the same shit on PC with the subscription.
Couple all of this with the fact Japan hates the Xbox and last an entire countries playerbase since the beginning.
TL;DR - Nothing but bad decisions from start to finish. The xbox only still yet live because Windows makes money.
360 did incredibly well considering the failure rate. Everybody knew your Xbox could RRoD anytime, and yet you couldn’t turn down Halo multiplayer on Xbox live.
Xbone is where they completely shit the bed. That infamous E3 presentation destroyed the brand. That and they’ve run all their exclusives into the ground. Halo is garbage now. And they can’t get it through their heads that people want to OWN their games.
Sony is well on their way to a similar fall from grace. Mark my words: pride comes before a fall.
>Kill your best franchise by leaving it with people who hated it in it's prime
>Now have literally no Identity outside of it's subscription service having a collection of games to play out the box.
>Playstation is following suite and porting all their worthwhile games to PC even faster than before
They were set to win with the 360 but fumbled the bag by moving away from building powerhouse exclusive franchises to appealing to casuals with kinect before the casual bubble burst.
They dropped the ball so fricking hard with that era.
>xbox is the underdog and should be allowed to keep buying up studios for tens of billions of dollars, says parent company
the studios microsoft buys are always shit to begin with and only get worse under microsoft
so it's not like it matters anyway
you say this, but I have never seen a sadder fall from grace than both Naughty Dog and Insomniac had under Playstation. Bethesda and Arkane were never great studios to begin with and Microsoft had nothing to do with Starfield and Redfall's development process. But Naughty Dog and Insomniac once upon a time were among the best devs out there.
Rare is dead. 343 is dead. That Arkane Studio died with Redfall. 40 plus developers at MS Game Studios.
They buy companies that die after one release under Microsoft
The reason Microsoft buys shitty companies is so they can absorb the few talented employees in each one more easily
Lol, remember when people thought Gaylo was good? Good times
I used to love the series as a kid. I got the MCC on Steam last year or the year before it. I couldn't even get a few missions into Reach before wanting to stop.
Bungie's Halo games are very good
Xbox was a Halo machine and nothing else. 360 dominated even with RROD but forgot to participate in the second half of the generation losing all it's earned ground to Sony. Xbone killed themselves at E3 before even releasing. Xboxsex is just irrelevant and now Microsoft is clearly more interested in pushing Window's Game Pass than it is the Xbox brand.
It was also a Gears and Fable Machine, Those were the best Microsoft could do for major 1st party games and they fumbled them all when they tried to milk that potential.
Sony and Nintendo are far from perfect but they've put out some decent games over the years. I can't think of a single worthwhile Xbox exclusive outside of Bungie Halo and Hifi Rush. There's also RROD, Xbox Live being pure cancer that auto renews whether you want it to or not and have to call customer service to disable, and their consoles being overpriced, underpowered jokes.
360 was a fluke
you know they fricked up when you rather just buy a secondhand sega saturn and imported japanese games than an xbox series and the slop they sell at amazon
Xbox Series S is the biggest buyer's remorse console going by Ebay and Amazon listings.
You mean to tell me that Xbox did worse than the Gamecube?
Everyone has been telling me that the GC was a huge flop and that's why Nintendo had to go Blue Ocean with the Wii
xbox original was 24 million unites and the gamecube was 22 million
It definitely made less money than the GameCube
The first Xbox was released too late to be a competitor to the PS2. Latter also was the cheapest DVD player on the market. The 360 buck-broke the PS3 in the mid 2000s, but instead of continuing to make good games, MS focused on shit like Kinect. When the 8th generation came about they shot themselves in the foot with required online connections and the inability to share physical copies of games.
They literally left their biggest ip Halo with a dev team run by morons. Microsoft should have purged the entire dev team after what happened with Halo 5 and MCC. But nope, instead they green lit a god awful brand damaging TV show, and made a shitty bare bones GAAS f2p game.
It has gotten so bad, that I often wonder if Microsoft just fricking hates Halo.
nintendo consoles are the only consoles that dont lose value over time. most if not all the exclusives on sony and microsoft consoles end up on pc at some point. "console wars" is just propaganda
You can find a gamecube for like $50-$70. People just emulate old nintendo shit.
>nintendo consoles are the only consoles that dont lose value over time
Tell that to the Wii U.
Nintendo was the only one that saw the value of rehashing their ips, brand recognition is everything
Nah, Nintendo consoles are kinda overrated, Sega consoles on the other hand do retain their original value as some games still emulate like shit on those platforms.
Nah they are slop just like the rest,hell I'd say even more so since not only is the hardware garbage ,but outside of a few exceptions the catalogue of games on it is also garbage
The original Xbox was the first and last time Microsoft tried. They really did go all in on producing a wide variety of exclusives. It's just that the normalgay playerbase didn't give a shit outside of Halo, GTA and sports.
God I wish I had a 6 figure job, where I do frick all, damage my brand, get rewarded with a promotion, and fail upwards.
ENTER El Grand moron-o, Phillip Spencer. Replaced Don Mattrick, what a big win for Xbox brand!
it's great how normal people have to live with the consequences of their actions but connected people like this can just frick up over and over and over and over again and contribute nothing to the world and get paid 6 figures for absolutely no reason but anyone that thinks that's bad is a terrorist
Microsoft was never able to tap into the Japanese market. Without Japan, there was no way to win.
name one culturally significant game made in asia in the last 20 years
Dark Souls
no one outside of chuds and 4chinners care about souls games
wheres the burger king cross promos?
Xbox died when they lost Peter Moore
Sneak King was actually kino
>literally no bodyfat
looks like a man
>wants a fat, smelly, greasy woman
Black person
Here you go, bro.
>currently looking for a relationship
>already married
Whatever "thing" is married to that cow is the biggest cuck in the universe.
God I hate these moronic dances it's unreal
Halo 2 and 3 had the biggest launches gaming has ever seen so I doubt that. Maybe since 2008 when they were going hard into Kinect dance room shit.
Xbox was respectable but effectively saved by Halo. Though its more powerful hardware and similarity to PC gave it the best PC ports.
360 was a hardware disaster (RROD) but had a great mix of games and was innovative in the online space with Arcade, achievements, Live, etc. Their best console despite it all
XBONE was a legitimate disaster they have never recovered from
>halo
They're also bad at managing their other franchises. If you think Halo has it bad look at Fable. Last game released in 2012, they rightfully realised they need to reboot it because the series went the wrong way... 12 years later we've only heard it was scrapped at least twice.
Their strategy of buying a frickload of studios is still not paying off after more than 5 years. Basically everything zenimax/beth was doing was just to make the merger more expensive and the absolute state of Starfield or whatever the last arcane game was called is telling. The smaller studios like Obsidian and inExile have evidently gone for projects that were meant to make them appear more expensive(NOT skyrim and NOT Bioshock) which hints they're also likely shit.
Kinect. 360 was going strong until they decided to put all their eggs into the motion control basket. When it failed they just stopped trying for the rest of the gen. Then tried to push that shit again with the One. Somebody high up at Microsoft thought motion controls were the future and the brand died on that hill.
This.
The post-Kinect 360 was just as bad as the Xbox One in terms of quality and quantity of new games.
Microsoft fricked up big with letting Bungie go, putting disproportionate amounts of resources into making Kinect games, and then immediately doubling down on all their failures and reasons people don't like them with the Xbox One.
They basically annihilated their brand from being on top of the world in 2010, to having nothing but a subscription service and backwards compatibility as selling points by 2016.
It wasn't Kinect itself but the new the ideas that spawned it in the first place. Wii was dominating by reaching the widest audience possible, the family, and Microsoft wanted a piece of that. They lost their identity as the system for mature action games. When CoD started marketing itself with exclusive promotions on Playstation that entire audience went where the games they like were going.
No real internal division to put out quality titles
Poor management on hardware and software sides
Lack of Japanese support
Many things really
sony ponys fudging the numbers, dont worry xbots we going strong
If they made a $400 all-digital Series X, would things be any different?
Xbox died with the Xbox One
Do people on Ganker actually play on consoles why do you give a shit what consoles are winning?
I have a switch besides my PC, that's kinda it
Xbox lost.
>XBox Huge struggles because it was competing with 2 already established consoles with rabid fanbases
>360 falls flat at launch but dominates the late 2000s
>Completely fricking destroy the 360's lead in the early 2010s by making the UI the most annoying garbage and constantly telling everyone about the Kinect, going so far as to force developers to shoehorn Kinect support into any game imaginable
>Double down on Kinect for the XBox One but with the added touch of adding the most annoying anticonsumer features possible
>Completely mishandle all of their major IPs to the point that Halo and Gears of War were developed by people who publicly admitted they wanted the see the series fail
They have only themselves to blame
>going out of their way to frick over consumers at every turn (paid online, trying to remove the concept of used games which ironically Sony picked up on)
>moronic naming schemes. "xbox one" "xbox series x" - i can't believe everyone that gave nintendo shit for Wii U are utterly silent about these moronic ass names
>no good first party anything, Halo hasn't been good in over a decade, no reason to own an xbox unless you're a moronic gorilla that can't use a PC
>Why
Just fricking look at it lmao. A literal monolith of soullessness
makes perfect sense.
microisraelite only launched the shitbox not to try and compete in earnest, but to capture the console market so they could steer them towards lock-in into their walled garden.
microisraelite HATES that the Japanese market isn't under their control, so they've tried their damndest to crack into it and dismantle it.
Nothing new there
>Switch
>#1
Switch is a last gen console, it's not even in the same Generation as PS5 or Series X. It should just be PS5 #1 and Series X #2
You’re thinking Wii U
No Switch
It’s Switch, PS5, Series
Last gen was Wii U, PS4, Xbone
Before that was Wii, PS3, 360
And before that was GameCube, PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast
If your arguing power it kinda doesn’t matter because we start doing that then Sony is a gen behind because the PS2 was not on the level of GC Xbox
PS2 was on that level, issue was sony was of the belief that unique system architecture and training devs on it was the way forward. That was their system for PS1 and it worked there because the MIPS chip was a fricking turd on n64, plus the other ninty horseshit coming back to bite them in the ass for third parties.
PS2 rode the success of the PS1, and also the fact the PS2 was not just a games console but the cheapest DVD player on the market, bar none, for the first 2 years of it's life, when DVDs were right on the comeup, they picked right and won hard.
PS3 they had bluray and it was the direct cause of the 599 fiasco, but unfortunately bluray wasn't as innovative or important as DVD was at the time, so it didn't sell well, plus the 360 was much cheaper to start, and then throw in the cell which was much harder to develop for than the 360 which had surprisingly similar (not super similar, but more than expected) architecture to PCs of the time, plus MS basically paying for everything up to and including launch fees if you made exclusive (and threatening to disallow you dev kits for every future system if you gave sony any exclusive content) got a lot of people on their side.
PS4 was sony reeling back the horseshit unique architecture, and everyone's right back on it. Even without the backwards compat, people would rather have moved over to avoid MS' horseshit. Even with paid online making them so god damned similar.
PS5 was just 0 question, full bc support, you'd have to be braindead to switch over, and even the diehard xbox fans ate shit as MS has essentially kneecapped the entire generation, especially so on the MS side by demanding devs create series S versions of games.
I'm sure xbox brand isn't hurting with gamespass, but it's definitely not a competitor in any meaningful way anymore.
Sony's power back in the day was their unique architecture. People not utilizing it doesn't mean it's weaker. Gamecube is the same shit. Look at fricking RE4, dude.
PS2 was weaker than DC
The average dev couldn't use EE to the degree it was fully capable of, yeah.
DC had nothing even half as good as ico or SOTC though, I'll die on the hill that PS2 was stronger, it just didn't get any devs focusing on it because that was around the time moronic Black folk started saying exclusives were bad instead of the only good thing about consoles.
Kinect and that homosexual Don Matrick killed the brand
>losing
If it's making a profit it's not losing.