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Didn't have his money when he came to collect.
Johnny was kind of shit anyway, definetly the worst IV protagonist
This. I always thought bikers were fucking lame as hell. I never gave a shit about Johnny. Shocked to find out people actually cared that he became a simp junkie cuck in V
He was a simp in iv too. Billy says he fucked her before the dlc, she's getting fucked by ray, she probably gets fucked by the Russians she owes money to, she's a tweaker whore, and he still endlessly gives her chances and saves her. I don't get why people think his turnout in V is somehow unrealistic. Any relationship with a junkie in it either ends up with the non junkie partner succumbing to their partners addiction or leaving after they exhaust all options to try to save a useless addict.
the bilker dlc really didn't do enough with the concept but johnny was an ok protag if a little forgettable
this. just finished playing through all of gta iv and the dlc again. not only is the lost and the damned shit(just endless missions of being chased by cops), johnny is the worst character by far
Rockstar hated TLAD because how poor it sold.
The writers have been hacks for the longest time. Every rockstar game ends with a main character's death now. It's the cheapest shock value they have. They were so into it they literally went back and killed Johnny so GTA4 would join the list.
All three survive in GTA 5.
>In V it’s canon that Franklin, Michael, and Trevor all survive
>Nike disappeared, but is heavily hinted as being alive
Even side characters survived
>Agent ULP is alive and well
>Lamar is still kicking
>Malc is literally the focus of the biker DLC
I could go on but you get the point, characters dying is more rare than you make it seem
all of their characters in the past 10 years have a dead or optionally dead protagonist.
lol Franklin and Trevor are running businesses and Michael is still producing kinos in GTA Online. They're alive.
So? The ending of the game remains the same. No goal post was move.
>The ending of the game remains the same.
That they're canonically all alive? You're right.
Why can't you move past this? This was a mission in GTA V. What universe are you in? I don't care if he is alive in cannon, this is specifically Rockstar's predictable writing we're talking about.
It doesn't matter what you care about, he's alive and working in Los Santos after the events of GTA V.
>rdr ends with john's death
>la noire ends with cole's death
>gta v ends with the optional death of either trevor or michael
>gta vi leaker says the game ends with the death of either the male or female protagonist
>ugh rockstar only writes dead main characters!
>they're actually all alive no matter what "option" you chose in singleplayer
sorry you pussied out and didn't choose deathwish
You keep moving the goalpost further and further back. You started this with “ALL GTA GAMES END IN THE PROTAGS DEATH” to which we all said “No they don’t here’s like 10 examples where that doesn’t happen” and you just keep coping saying “WELL THIS WAS A CHOICE AND UH LA NOIRE (not made by rockstar, made by Team Bondi) AND UH RED DEAD
I'm not even the original guy retard. The original guy was talking about Rockstar's writing, not THE CANNON ENDING WAS CONFIRMED BY FRANKLIN IN GTA ONLINE.
I don't know why you can't understand this other than you're being disingenuous.
>The writers have been hacks for the longest time. Every rockstar game ends with a main character's death now.
yes all of their protags end in a characters death in the past 10 years except for gta iv
>They were so into it they literally went back and killed Johnny so GTA4 would join the list.
But then in GTA V Johnny is killed.
BTW if you want to be a lore fag, CJ is canonically confirmed to be dead. Does it matter? No because lore is irrelevant to the quality of the writing which is the thesis of the post. Retard esl fag was wrong, proven wrong, and can't read english so he doesn't know he's wrong.
>yes all of their protags end in a characters death in the past 10 years except for gta iv
And GTA V, in which all 3 protagonists survive.
>yes all of their protags end in a characters death in the past 10 years except for gta iv
Anon, rockstar has only released 2 titles in the past 10 years. RDR2 and GTA V.
GTA IV came out in 2008
RDR came out in 2010.
Even if you count the remasters only 3 of those protags die, and those are Cole from LA Noire, Johnny from GTA IV, and Arthur from RDR2
>>gta vi leaker says the game ends with the death of either the male or female protagonist
There's no way they're going to let me kill the female protagonist. You're out of your mind if you believe that for a second. Just like I couldn't kill the black guy in V.
Not that I minded, really. Franklin was alright if a bit boring. A shame we didn't get the ending where Lamar replaces him.
>I don't care if he's alive in cannon
Michael and Trevor dont die though, the canon ending is that they're all together by the end. Luis doesn't die, Niko is alive. Tommy is alive, Claude is alive, Carl is alive. Arthur has to die, because otherwise he becomes a Johnny in Rdr1 and people would bitch about that endlessly because he doesn't get whatever ending they imagine he deserves, even moreso because arthur is 100x more beloved than Johnny was.
b-b-b-but in online I pretend like this wasn't a mission
>apologizes for yelling at the guy who was fucking his drug addicted oneitis
>i'm supposed to feel bad he was killed on accident
To kill of the cucks who self inserted as jonny
Because trevor is a fucking idiot and only ledditors like him.
do people actually like bikers
I think they could be made into a cool game. Unfortunetly all we have is TLaD and Ride to Hell
false, you also have one of the best open world zombie games. but it is also an open world zombie game, which means nobody played it and those who did immediately forgot it
rockstar just likes to piss off people
like that hillarious anime parody they made on 4 and 5
or apparently killing cj
and this dude from the IV dlc who apparently had a nice ending originally and they made him a cuck, made his gf uglier and had trevor kill his whole gang
>rockstar just likes to piss off people
Only people who are ~~*socially acceptable*~~ to piss off.
didn't he burnt down the clubhouse
>like that hillarious anime parody they made on 4 and 5
>or apparently killing cj
elaborate, at least about cj
yeah it was more of a bittersweet thing, he killed his former mentor and walked away from all the bad shit in his life
>a nice ending
Can't be a nice ending if he stuck with this girl who was just poison for him all along.
This scene was to show the game was le wacky and not super cereal like TLaD
he was a decent character, he wasn't supposed to end up like this
Journos hated the DLC and back then theirs was the word of god.
i remember they thought it was okay? it was what dlc should be. not as good as tbogt but cool
Is GTAV so boring?
This was done as a fuck you to the guy who created sons of anarchy or the other biker show who kept harassing rockstar to make a game for his dumb TV show. The dude spent months harassing the housers and even had people calling their homes for weeks. I think the guy who plays Johnny even talked about it once.
The Lost and Damned DLC was even more serious than the regular IV story and Rockstar thought that their teenage fanbase hated it. In truly demoralized fashion they decided to turn Johnny into a cucked gibbering crack addict who they stomp to death in the side of the road and piss on. As if to say, "Fuck that shit this story is going to be cool and fun."
This is my biggest argument as to why British people have no souls.
People did hate it, just like they hated IV. It's not a coincidence that they brought back Gay Tony from the DLC that people actually liked and nothing else.
>This is my biggest argument as to why British people have no souls.
A video game character being killed off?
Johnny was shit in the DLC too. Bad ass biker man being played by his old leader and that fat lawyer guy who got too high. Not to mention he was played like a fool by that junkie whore. He was shit
I didn't like the guy, but he didn't deserve this. I do like the idea of a soulful serious biker GTA, even if TLAD wasn't it for some.
*kneels and raises a fist in solidarity with the soulful bikers*
You don't need to a be a moron, anon. The new Saints Row is coming with your fun, random, contemporary gameplay.
lmao stay mad gay....
Just a soulful biker.....ridin' down that highway
And to be fair, GTA protags all had a problem with just being "yes i will do this", getting bitched at, etc. Every protag was a bitch in the story, even Vercetti.
You wouldnt get it. The concept of a motorcycle club is a white man thing.
what about all the retarded Hispanics in biker gangs then?
Where do you think they got it from? Retard
from being retarded morons just like the retarded white morons in gangs
>thinks a motorcycle club is the same thing as a bugaboo street gang
Yeah like I said: you wouldn't get it
there's literally zero difference except the outfit.
Sometimes you look at things like this and think "man, just being in shape can do you so many favours"
to showcase how edgy trevor "pickle rick" phillips was as a character, they just chose the least popular mc in the modern universe to prevent the least amount of people from disliking him
I wonder if they were hoping for a mixed reaction to this scene, like they were hoping that people who enjoyed TLatD would despise Trevor for killing Johnny and the others while those who didn't like it would adore him for it.
They should have went all in with Johnny being an addict, dealing heroin, and trying to get his girlfriend back. Would have been more kino like Pusher. They still could have had him hang out with Elizabeta and do the diamond deal, but it would have shown him to be more vulnerable.
Wanted him dead ever since he turned out to be gnomish. It just turned me off to the character
>Every single game in past 10 years
> 6 games in those 10 years (2 if you don’t count remasters) and those games are Max Payne 3, GTA V, Bully Anniversary, LA Noire VR, RDR2, and GTA: The Trilogy
>Of those games only 3 protags got killed (Cole from LA noire, Johnny from GTA IV and Arthur from RDR2)
>Of those games 8 of the protags survive (Max Payne, all the GTA V protags, Jimmy Hopkins, Claude, Tommy, and CJ all survive their games)
>This makes a ratio of 3-8, or 62.5 % of the protag surviving
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