WoW is jam packed with homosexuals and trannies because a) the devs themselves are homosexuals and trannies so they've been steadily cultivating a fanbase of homosexuals and trannies and b) the game is so fricking dogshit that a large portion of the normal people have left and only leaving the homosexuals and trannies
FF14 is jam packed with homosexuals and trannies because a) anime and weeb shit naturally attracts homosexuals and trannies with its generally effeminate and flashy aesthetic and b) the strict chat moderation of square enix has made it very hard to enact procedures that would normally drive homosexuals and trannies en masse from the game via people making fun of them and forcing them down into their place at bottom of the societal ladder where they belong as was common in real life up until about even 20 years ago.
FF14 gays like to harp on and on about the wow being the real troony game with the troony devs(and they make a very good point) but they will never admit that SE coddles gays and trannies way fricking harder than Blizzard does. The odds of getting silenced or banned for hitting someone up with the YWNBAW in WoW are actually fairly low but they are very high in FF14.
>FF14 gays like to harp on and on about the wow being the real troony game with the troony devs(and they make a very good point) but they will never admit that SE coddles gays and trannies way fricking harder than Blizzard does. The odds of getting silenced or banned for hitting someone up with the YWNBAW in WoW are actually fairly low
when i relogged into wow for the first time in like a decade, in around 2020 i got perma banned after 4 hours of barrens chat. I have never even been warned in FF14 and I talk pretty candidly on whatever I want. FF14 has strict moderation but it lands on antifa and gays just as hard as chuds. WoW is strictly moderated against chuds, but gays can bait and troll as much as they feel like.
Sounds like you're just unlucky. Me and friends have talked shit about trannies openly on fricking moon guard of all places trade chat many times and have never been silenced.
Meanwhile I've been moderated on FF14 just for telling some homosexual to learn how to play their class in a dungeon and stop dragging everybody else down.
>FF14 has strict moderation but it lands on antifa and gays just as hard as chuds
The difference is the gays and antifa are infinitely more likely to cry and report someone for it than the chuds are. So yea it does benefit them way more.
XIV has no troon shit in game, I don't give a frick about the freaks in the playerbase, I can ignore them and they disappear from my sight. I can't ignore developers openly insulting me as a player by replacing women with fruit, altering how emotes work to "prevent harassment" and straight up niiggerifying npc's that used to be white for diversity token points.
That is not even the most offensive thing they've done. The fricking Dragonflight plot where not a single straight relationship is present and the devs openly mocking straight white people and insulting them as well as occasionally insulting specific elements of their playerbase for engaging in the activities they themselves fricking designed, like PvP. The "PvP Paul" shit got memoryholed real fricking quick, I've never seen SE treat their players that way, at worst Yoshi P just tells you to unsubscribe and play some other game when there's a content drought.
>The odds of getting silenced or banned for hitting someone up with the YWNBAW in WoW are actually fairly low but they are very high in FF14.
You're either very nice to people in WoW or just haven't played recently, I guess? Which is the smart move, by the way.
Because they have extreme moderation that will ban anybody who so much as breathes a slur at them. The very definition of a protected class. So while in normal circles deviants are ostracized and forced to keep their degeneracy hidden or leave, they flaunt their homosexuality in these games because they know nobody can stop them.
>MMOs got taken over by homosexuals and trannies >Fighting games got taken over by homosexuals and trannies >Game genres of the golden era are dead because of live-service models >Last remaining niches are getting invaded and taken over by zooms and trannies
I think the reason people keep posting "Why am I getting tired of vidya?" is a similar situation with their own games. It was a good ride while it lasted I guess.
I wish it was because healthy competition is good for both games but 99% of those viewers are watching an 18 year old version of the game being played with a gimmick mod.
>WoW is more popular than their game
Not according to Warcraft Logs lol... https://twitter.com/WarcraftLogs/status/1609672850780344322
xiv last expansions was not able to beat dragonflight
people play wow
people dont play xiv
simple as
>D4 great game >great views >xiv shit game >shit views
Views don't mean shit only when no one is watching your shit game
During the wow exodus you clowns were spamming asmongold's twitch analytics, and still were not able to beat wow lmao
>wow she gets 1/3 of the views of the top streamers
moron, her stream only exist to advertise the Onlyfans, where she makes about 2 millon USD monthly, also, go to simpcity.st to get her content for free.
if you are going to say something a moronic shitskin would say you should at least type like them for my immersion
11 months ago
Anonymous
>mad he got called out of his shit attempt at a nazi grammar raid
ESL moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
how are you wowbucks this fricking stupid lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
>loses >a little bit of ad hominem ofc
moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
your*
11 months ago
Anonymous
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN’T MAKE FUN OF ME TRYING TO CORRECT YOU AND FAILING AT THAT!!!!!! >IT’S YOUR!!!!!! NOT YOU’RE!!!!!!
lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
you gonna cry about it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>projecting
lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
this dude is crying lol !
11 months ago
Anonymous
>projecting
lol
oh 46 posts in, and we're already at the "two autists get upset at other anon they don't actually know, and pretend they're not upset at each other for the following hundred posts" part of these threads.
hello fextra Black person
your wife is ugly and your wikis are dogshit
but you knew that since you wouldnt be paying to boost their search priority now would you
>D4 great game >great views >xiv shit game >shit views
Views don't mean shit only when no one is watching your shit game
During the wow exodus you clowns were spamming asmongold's twitch analytics, and still were not able to beat wow lmao
>Companies hold FOMO DLC random behind ads in order to prop up the viewership of said ads so they reach actual new customers.
This shit is so ridiculous.
Also, which games in the bottom 1000 of twitch are popular?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The point was there is bigger games with less views. Wow is fricking tiny compared to some of these other games despite having more 'twitch views.
It's not about saying they are unpopular just that there is bigger games than them and in wows case its audience is 30+ year old balding males who cant let go
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The point was there is bigger games with less views.
No, the words you used were "views don't mean shit". Do you have dementia, by any chance? Why the sudden goalpost shift?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Are you fricking moronic?
The fact that there are games on Twtich that have lower viewer counts despite having a large playerbase or vise versa proves that Twitch views isn't isn't an accurate metric to gauge the size of an active playerbase.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>if i can point out a minority of outliers, it disproves the rule
stunning insight, detective.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>muh outliers
They are not outliers, there are dozens of games that fit that description in the top 50 alone.
The fact that there is so much inconsistency in view counts vs actual playerbase means, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Twitch numbers cannot accurately indicate anything about a video game other than its popularity on Twitch.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They are not outliers
yes they are >there are dozens of games
twitch has literal tens of thousands of games on it. the overwhelming majority of them have viewership that roughly represents its current popularity. you are so fricking stupid it's unbelievable.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>yes they are
Prove it. You are making claims that are easily observer able as false by anyone with two braincells. >twitch has literal tens of thousands of games on it
I said in the top 50 alone. Improve your reading comprehension.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Prove it.
so far you've only been able to name like 2-3 out of tens of thousands of games on twitch.
even if you were able to name 50 games where popularity doesn't roughly match up with their viewership (and let's face it, you aren't), there would still be tens of thousands of games where it does, and your examples would still be outliers.
xiv cultists are the dumbest people alive i swear to fricking god lmao.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're simply assuming all those games match their popularity though.
11 months ago
Anonymous
According to Twitch charts, games that are currently doing better than WoW despite having magnitudes fewer players >Maplestory >Dead by Daylight >SF6 >Only Up!
Currently doing worse than WoW despite very likely having a larger userbases than WoW as it is now >fricking music >CoD MWII >Genshin Impact >Tears of a Kingdom
So there are already many games with a large disconnect between playerbases and Twitch views. And you think WoW is somehow magically different and it's popularity on Twitch has a direct correlation with total players.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Do you have proof of these claims? Are their populations officially listed?
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's common fricking sense. Obviously an old, semi-niche MMO like Maplestory has fewer players than WoW. And obviously a multiplatform normalgay containment game like CoD is going to fricking have more than WoW. You just don't want to concede because you know you're wrong and all you can do is double down and argue in circles.
11 months ago
Anonymous
MS is a massive MMO and always has been. Just like Runescape.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Both RS3 and OSRS has been slowly bleeding players for the last 10 or so years since they slowed content devlopment to a crawl and started piling on microtransactions and alt-bait gamemodes like Ironman and the new servers that consistently wipe progress like Tarkov or PoE. It began when Jagex sold off majority stake to an asset management corp and started being used like a financial fleshlight as the company has changed hands 4 times in the last decade.
Rant aside, my point is yes they are big, but not as big as WoW which despite it's spectacular failings still remains more popular.
I've played FFXIV but never WoW. Whats the appeal? looking at it it seems to be all about gays and troonys and doing the same instanced content with slightly higher numbers which all sounds extremely degenerate.
the only appeal to wow is >you played the game 10 years ago and blizzard gave you cosmetics that no one can get anymore, so you have to keep playing forever so you have something you can feel """proud""" of
the appeal of retail is being a sunk-cost fallacy moron that can't let go
the appeal of classic is nostalgia baiting until you realize it'll never be the same because you grew up, and society has changed
>Whats the appeal?
Powermetal aesthetics.
Faction identity.
War.
More stylized and holds up better.
Beast races that actually look like ferocious beastmen, not tumblr furries.
Class customization.
y..youre not serious
none of these have been present for years
some of those are also flat out white lies >Beast races that actually look like ferocious beastmen
honestly just a good shitpost, i kneel bait god
lol you really just said this >powermetal aesthetics
wotlk was the last time this was a thing >faction identity
elves make up over 70% of the playerbase on both sides >war
the only time the "war" was relevant in the past 10 years was the first 2 patches of bfa >more stylized
once upon a time maybe >beast races that look like ferocious beastmen
none of them do, literally none of them. tauren look like they belong in a dreamworks movie, worgen look like disney characters, >class customization
fabrication when the difference between the optimal build and the next best thing will be MINIMUM 10% worse
You don't play wow. Post your character
Wonderful argument. Post the most recent playercount according to Square., in an official announcement. Not your moronic tertiary me-wait, those are all in the shitter
Did Blizzard also hand out a month of free game time after dragonflight release due to congested servers making it impossible to log in for weeks if you had a day job?
>due to congested servers making it impossible to log in for weeks if you had a day job? >MY CHINK COMPANY HAS DOGSHIT SERVERS >ON NO GUYS WE CANT HANDLE 100K PLAYERS
Nice flex moron
Wow is just bigger, after the shadowlands fiasco and people shilling your game non stop xiv was not able to reach 2 millions concurrent players, absolute flop
>>MY CHINK COMPANY HAS DOGSHIT SERVERS
Or perhaps the playerbase for Endwalker's release as an order of magnitude larger than they anticipated?
They really couldn't plan for the absolute wave of WoWfugees playing the game after they all got fed up with Shadowlands.
on Twitch? of course it is, for whatever crazy reason, WoW players will literally watch someone do absolutely nothing but run around in circles on a stream while saying nothing interesting
This is unique among MMO viewers, and I don't know why it's so peculiarly specific with WoW viewers
most "porn" (modded screenshots/animations) are usually first posted onto a patreon or some other panhandling website, then a twitter/pixiv account, then onto boorus and r34 from there
you know make the barry comparison all day my Black person
but ive played that game for years and watched it go from bad to dogshit
cope and seethe as much as you want, it wont change the fact that so many good devs and even leads jumped ship from that dead game
>Blizzard used bots to shill Shadowlands on Ganker >Blizzard used bots to shill Dragonflight on Ganker >Blizzard used bots to shill Diablo 4 on Ganker >somehow there are no bots on Twitch
The genius of Yoship. DC travel killed even some of the established servers.
The new ones are complete ghost towns where people can't even do the most basic shit.
>where people can't even do the most basic shit.
?
I thought raids, pvp and dungeons were data center-based. You don't do jack shit on the overworld anyways.
>The genius of Yoship. DC travel killed even some of the established servers.
Split EU into 2 desolate wastelands
We will add a 3rd desolate wasteland!
I dislike XIV players because all measurable metrics indicate they have a much lower population, yet they insist upon being the highest based purely on some weird 'gut feeling' or something. A game getting good reviews or having nice developers doesnt mean its widely played.
Warcraft enjoyers do the same shit, the truth is that all MMOgays screeching about numbers are just a bunch of insecure homosexuals that need the numbers to justify the time they spent in the game, a tale as old as time...
wowtards don't even try that anymore besides barry and co.
actual wow players have basically given up on trying to pretend their game has any players at this point, their cope is just that the game is perpetually in a "content draught" or people don't play because the game is "too hard for noobs like them"
I was an avid mmo player for a majority of my years 14-26 at least maybe even a bit longer, I probably still played mmos a bit, I'm 32 now but they are not fun at all in any way, they just fill a void in your life when you have nothing else to do, you will probably have more fun with friends playing cod or something, one of the biggest regrets I have is wasting so much time playing mmos
I think its pretty common knowledge that WoW is bigger than FFXIV. Even WoW classic hardcore was fricking huge for about a month and i knew multiple people playing it. It is literally just FFXIV gays that are either trolling or are so sunk cost from their game that they actually believe that they are playing the most popular MMO in gaming
Insecurity. Their entire sense of self-worth comes from feeling like they're playing the "correct" mmo. The playerbase is basically a positivity cult where they worship a multi-millionaire Japanese salaryman whose entire job is to run damage control for square enix.
Is it possible to somehow group up in frontier?
I swear sometime some team are just too well organized, but I don't know if it's that or my mind playing tricks due to me being a sore loser about it.
Speaking of PvP it amazes me that there are literally giant ass "GO THERE DUMBFRICK" effects on the screen and people will still chase the lone bard to the ass end of the map regardless.
I understand the value of battle high but this feel like a fricked up notion of priorities.
my favorite wowo woca strimmer is max because he has 120k viewers but his chat moves slower than someone with 100 viewers so it's easy to talk to people!
HC being hardcore? Maybe people were just in for the story and lost interest once the game was finished. I wouldn't want to watch someone else playing hardcore in my place, for one
>tfw play DRK >Actually always avoid doing this and if I'm offtanking I have no problem with it >tfw the other day I actually accidentally fatfingered the provoke button
I have a separate provoke macro for alliance raids that says "nuh uh tauntcel, I'm the main character" when one of the other tanks tries to provoke the boss off me, then I start spamming ranged enmity for the rest of the boss. and I do play a male viera in a bawdglam, thanks for asking
>Play FFXIV for years >XIV players just playing the game and going to the fanfests as usual. >WoW goes to shit >wowfugees arrive at Erozea >"XIV is soooo much better than that old WoW turd, heheh, I can't believe how good this game is, did you hear that Blizzard?! This game is sooooo fricking good heheh...." >"Wait, is that classic servers and hardocore? oh wowsies, I better come back!"
the ui update was one of the most moronic things they've wasted their time on. blizzard doing what mods already did, isn't wasting time and resources fun?
I miss pre-Shadowbringers FFXIV, everything was more niche and only true fans were involved in the game and events. Sadly the game got more and more popular, jobs became easier to play, shitters arrived and the rest is history.
I prefer things to stay with moderate success, too much and you attract normies and shitters that change how the game plays, and too little the game just dies or tries to change to attract normies.
The games that have this perfect balance for me is Monster Hunter and Bayonetta, and while every game is not a master piece, they tend to try and keep their playerbase happy.
Both sides are extremely defensive because to admit the other game is "better" or "more popular" is to admit that they've wasted consecutive months or even years of their lives playing the wrong game. The same thing happens with Mobas.
>heh, that guy posted a character, I bet they will appreciate this shitty gpose pic I have of it >guess they didn't see that one... maybe I better post another
Genuine serious male lalafell are rare but they exist. 99.% of them are either shitposting or severe mental illness but the few who do play them seriously go hard.
I once saw one in Limsa standing around in a raid queue or something had a really fricking good WAR glam with the ShB dwarf helmet and I regret not copying the recipie.
The mind of the FFXIV contrarian is permanently blinded by insecurity. FFXIV is by no means a terrible game, but it is an MMO for people that hate the beloved qualities established by its predecessors in the genre. When asked what the contrarian likes about FFXIV, they will say things like storyline, moddability, gear graphics, all classes on one character, aka minor features. What did the game sacrifice to get these? Well, it has vastly downgraded netcode, zone graphics, level design, world design, PvP, control responsiveness, open world content, class design, and the casual PvE content is the worst out of all modern MMOs by a huge margin despite the fact games like WoW and ESO have pretty shit casual PvE content too. If you claim to dislike Final Fantasy XIV, the permanently insecure FFXIV contrarian will approach a frenzy, raving about World of Warcraft even if it hasn't been mentioned yet. The psychological damage these people have been dealt for the better part a decade has driven them into a frenzy of sorts, where they will pollute Ganker with threads about Final Fantasy XIV's superiority and World of Warcraft's inferiority. They are terminally insecure.
especially since blizzard has been giving away all of their fomo maze memorabilia cosmetics for free on the trading shop shit and twitch prime, and they still just sit there and take it
sad when you rememeber 90% of wow's development time goes into making a raid once a year, and every other form of content gets gutted and kneecapped for the sake of mythic toddlers
>Why does a troony roleplayer
kihra isn't a troony, moron. >that doesn't even raid
that's also not true. >own and operate a raid parsing website
not sure how you didn't know this, but being good at web dev doesn't require being a top world race autist in a video game.
>not a troony
proof? >does raid
literally has "retired raider and roleplayer" on his twitter >it totally makes sense
yeah, I am a trained chef irl, I hate polish food, so I am going to open a polish restaurant
do stupid people think raid loggers are a tally of total subs? the lack of critical thinking when it comes to throwing out figures in this thread is embarrassing.
>Ff has 3 million, wow has 1 to 1.5 million players including classic players
Why do FFXIV trannies make up numbers so often? Not even luckybancho's laughably flawed census supports this claim.
Neither game releases sub numbers
At least wow used to
The burden of proof lays on you deranged XIVtroons that make up imaginary numbers while every adjacent metric paints the picture of a dead game
Or do you want us to believe it is perfectly normal for a game with supposedly millions of players to be completely dead on sites like Youtube?
>WoWtards can't prove they're larger than XIV >but XIV players have the burden of proof despite any fricking mention of the game on Ganker in any context causes a billion WoW players to whine about how their game is ackshully more popular every time
virtually all adjacent metrics show wow being more popular than ffxiv.
it's exclusively xiv players that claim the numbers they made up in their minds are more important than google trends, youtube, etc. it doesn't take a genius to determine which side has better evidence for the more popular game lmao. so yes, the burden of proof is on ffxiv players.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>virtually all adjacent metrics
Except the actual playercount. You morons have been spamming Google Trends and Twitch viewers for over a year now because that it all you have.
11 months ago
Anonymous
ok genius, so if you want to engage in the shitflinging, what can one use?
wow doesn't release official sub numbers
xiv doesn't release official sub numbers
it's either your "feelings" or 3rd party metrics
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Except the actual playercount.
The actual playercount isn't an "adjacent metric", you fricking moron. It's an unknown primary metric, which is why we're using adjacent metrics in the first place. We've been over this like 5 times and multiple people have clearly and slowly explained it to you in clear english. You have an actual learning disability.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You morons have been spamming Google Trends and Twitch viewers for over a year now because that it all you have.
and all you have are numbers you invented in your mind. which do you think is more reliable?
11 months ago
Anonymous
How much of the recent uptick is people googling about the WoW HC servers?
You don't have to answer me, it's most of them. Nobody cares about dragonflight
11 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair, xivg is massively faster than wowg, on /vg/. If someone uses only Ganker, it's easy to (wrongly) deduce that xiv is more popular than wow.
Narcissism, gender dysphoria, autism, and various other mental health issues coupled with confirmation bias from other ff troons where 90% of their playerbase are all "exwow players" so to them it FEELS like "everybody i know quit wow for ff!" Creating a mass delusion amongst its playerbase of a big migration from wow to ff when in reality the ff playerbase is basically just a small subset of disgruntled ex wow players who are very vocal.
This is console war homosexualry but even more pathetic because console gays have actual numbers to compare
Both are shit. Move the frick on, nobody cares
>My stinking garbage is more popular! >No, MY stinking garbage is more popular!
WoW has better atmosphere while FFXIV is less manipulative, but both belong in the trash.
>WoWgays in charge of making their own threads without mentioning FFXIV to discuss their own fricking game >if FFXIV isnt mentioned the thread hits page 10 and fricking dies.
Literally the most rent free shit ive seen.
christ what is with the sudden influx of braindead zoomers? all you fricking talk about is HURR MUH SALES FIGURES IS X MORE POPOOLAR OR IS Y MORE POPOOLAR I HAVE TO KNOW
do you even play games?
So Final Fantasy overtook WoW now that it's at its lowest point ever? WoW was a worldwide phenomenon with over 10 million subscribers throughout the mid-late 2000s, it was in the news, had very popular commercials, got its own critically acclaimed South Park episode, etc. Nobody talks about Final Fantasy, it's completely irrelevant and it has absolutely no cultural impact whatsoever. Both are not comparable whatsoever.
WoW's peak wasn't its own. That was the peak of the genre. Other MMOs back in the 2000s had millions of players too. People in general just dont play MMOs much anymore.
My workplace has 3-4 people that play ffxiv while it has one delusional wow bro.
Nobody outside people who have played wow for the last 20 years gives a frick about the game or even knows it exists. If you asked most people about it randomly they would probably know about it but have no idea if it was still going or not
id rather chill with a wow player than a homosexual larping as lallafel in ffxiv >inb4 you can be a female in wow too hurf
yeah, but one is WAY gaygier than the other
Tell me honestly what you actually believe the player counter of wow and ffxiv is. No bullshit or memes just your actual expectations
Wow: 1.5~1.8 million
ffxiv: 1.3~1.5 million
Honestly even if it isn't true right now, WoW will eventually dip below XIV because the new player experience is abject dogshit. I got bored of XIV for a bit and tried WoW in Shadowlands as a player with 0 nostalgia for the game an honestly it's absurd how poorly put together the game is. Lots of unnecessary time wasting mechanics like the game being a vast field of fricking nothing content 20 levels below you that you don't have any reason to do but your mount moves at a snails pace and teleports are absurdly scarce. Also the fact that trying to hunt for mounts or transmogs requires you to have 30 alts grinding for a 1% droprate on a weekly lockout or 3 months of dailys for 6 year old content is crazy. Plus the campaign for Shadowlands put me to fricking sleep and I don't get how people can take a 15+ year old storyline and make it as boring as A Realm Reborn was.
Meanwhile, XIV has really put a lot of effort into improving new player experience by condensing ARR as much as they can, adding Trusts to make the game basically singleplayer up to Heavensward, adding flying to ARR zones just for completing 2.0, and so on. Plus the timegates are minimal and there is a wealth of casual side-content while everything but current-tier raiding in WoW is basically just vestigial legacy content.
I play XIV and endwalker didn't even have a year worth of content planned. The game has been getting more and more sparse shit peaked at Stormblood and its all been downhill.
I quit raiding during shb because they dumbed down all the jobs an insane amount and its just not great anymore. Its more the lack of Eureka/Bozja/Deep Dungeon. We don't get even the weird shit like Diadem anymore. Hell even back when people just spammed diadem for diablo style loot that was more interesting than Criterion since you got some kind of reward from it. I'm at the point I don't know why I login since there isn't going to be anything worth doing till the last 24 man raid and then thats it till the next expansion. Lack of relics has fricking murdered my will to even stay active on the game I would have unsubbed a long ass time ago if I didn't have a private large house.
sounds like you are addicted to quest completion. that dopamine hit of seeing a number go up.
recommend an alt, or getting over it. i didn't get 1 experience point in bozja and it never bothered me, and i'm currently grinding EW fates on a level 90 job
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nah not even I just want to play the game with friends again. These days I've basically just been capping with them and that it. I've been getting through my backlog some and playing XI on and off mostly instead of playing xiv.
>FFXIV got Asmongold to play >game surges in popularity >tons of streamers and youtube content being made >Endwalker begins and is dog shit >all the streamers finish MSQ and quit >anyone who stuck around is cancelled or falls into obscurity and stops streaming entirely >"prease buy a PS5 for my game" - YoshiP >pisses off any last good will he had for the the next expansion with such a mediocre game for that price point >Banri Oda gets butthurt that Ishikawa is universally praised and removes her from writing for the game for some moron who wrote the Bard storyline
never seen some shit catapult itself into mediocrity so quickly
It's gonna be really fricking funny when next expansion will be selling so well they will have to pause sales, just like with Endwalker. I wonder what kind of cope you will have to resort to then?
why are both games jam packed with fricking homosexuals?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!1111
>YOU CAN'T SAY THAT WOW IS JUST AS BAD AS FF14!!!111111
>YOU HAVE TO PICK SIDES BECAUSE... BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO OK??!?!?!
>I am enlightened by my own consoomerism
How's that splintered butthole fencesitter?
>PICK BETWEEN SHIT AND SHIT... NOW
Who's the consoomer here, exactly?
This that smart ass homie askin' tha big brain shit, homie.
mmos are played by the most autistic and at-risk gamers.
Videogames is a homosexual hobby in general, full of defective, emasculated males.
WoW is jam packed with homosexuals and trannies because a) the devs themselves are homosexuals and trannies so they've been steadily cultivating a fanbase of homosexuals and trannies and b) the game is so fricking dogshit that a large portion of the normal people have left and only leaving the homosexuals and trannies
FF14 is jam packed with homosexuals and trannies because a) anime and weeb shit naturally attracts homosexuals and trannies with its generally effeminate and flashy aesthetic and b) the strict chat moderation of square enix has made it very hard to enact procedures that would normally drive homosexuals and trannies en masse from the game via people making fun of them and forcing them down into their place at bottom of the societal ladder where they belong as was common in real life up until about even 20 years ago.
FF14 gays like to harp on and on about the wow being the real troony game with the troony devs(and they make a very good point) but they will never admit that SE coddles gays and trannies way fricking harder than Blizzard does. The odds of getting silenced or banned for hitting someone up with the YWNBAW in WoW are actually fairly low but they are very high in FF14.
>FF14 gays like to harp on and on about the wow being the real troony game with the troony devs(and they make a very good point) but they will never admit that SE coddles gays and trannies way fricking harder than Blizzard does. The odds of getting silenced or banned for hitting someone up with the YWNBAW in WoW are actually fairly low
when i relogged into wow for the first time in like a decade, in around 2020 i got perma banned after 4 hours of barrens chat. I have never even been warned in FF14 and I talk pretty candidly on whatever I want. FF14 has strict moderation but it lands on antifa and gays just as hard as chuds. WoW is strictly moderated against chuds, but gays can bait and troll as much as they feel like.
Sounds like you're just unlucky. Me and friends have talked shit about trannies openly on fricking moon guard of all places trade chat many times and have never been silenced.
Meanwhile I've been moderated on FF14 just for telling some homosexual to learn how to play their class in a dungeon and stop dragging everybody else down.
>FF14 has strict moderation but it lands on antifa and gays just as hard as chuds
The difference is the gays and antifa are infinitely more likely to cry and report someone for it than the chuds are. So yea it does benefit them way more.
XIV has no troon shit in game, I don't give a frick about the freaks in the playerbase, I can ignore them and they disappear from my sight. I can't ignore developers openly insulting me as a player by replacing women with fruit, altering how emotes work to "prevent harassment" and straight up niiggerifying npc's that used to be white for diversity token points.
never forget Chromie. the only popular western vidya shortstack
That is not even the most offensive thing they've done. The fricking Dragonflight plot where not a single straight relationship is present and the devs openly mocking straight white people and insulting them as well as occasionally insulting specific elements of their playerbase for engaging in the activities they themselves fricking designed, like PvP. The "PvP Paul" shit got memoryholed real fricking quick, I've never seen SE treat their players that way, at worst Yoshi P just tells you to unsubscribe and play some other game when there's a content drought.
>The fricking Dragonflight plot where not a single straight relationship is present
why would you blatantly lie like that?
Sylvanas raping Alduin is not a relationship.
>mankrik got remarried
>lorthemar married thalyssra
>baine x mayla
>malygos x sindragosa
and this is all Dragonflight
seems like there's a lot of relationships and shit in wow. feels soap operaish
>The odds of getting silenced or banned for hitting someone up with the YWNBAW in WoW are actually fairly low but they are very high in FF14.
You're either very nice to people in WoW or just haven't played recently, I guess? Which is the smart move, by the way.
I don't know why you'd say that shit in XIV people don't fricking talk in that game.
Activision Blizzard tried to attract Final Fantasy IV fans with Dragonflight.
mmos aren't played by normal people anymore, particularly not wow. dunno about ff
As someone that still has a WoW sub you are 110% correct with a 10% probability of error.
Same reason sports clubs breed gays.
Because they have extreme moderation that will ban anybody who so much as breathes a slur at them. The very definition of a protected class. So while in normal circles deviants are ostracized and forced to keep their degeneracy hidden or leave, they flaunt their homosexuality in these games because they know nobody can stop them.
Holy moly based
bump
>MMOs got taken over by homosexuals and trannies
>Fighting games got taken over by homosexuals and trannies
>Game genres of the golden era are dead because of live-service models
>Last remaining niches are getting invaded and taken over by zooms and trannies
I think the reason people keep posting "Why am I getting tired of vidya?" is a similar situation with their own games. It was a good ride while it lasted I guess.
fighting games were already taken over by Black folk, so it was just a matter of time since 1 in every 3 black men in america is gay or transexual
They're MMOs
No one with any semblance of taste plays MMOs
Because mmos are babysitting tools for the mentally ill
I wish it was because healthy competition is good for both games but 99% of those viewers are watching an 18 year old version of the game being played with a gimmick mod.
> Popular
Brainless addicts in their mid thirties who suffer from sunk cost fallacy
ywnbaw
I don’t have any desire to be a woman, I’m not an mmo player.
>it's not popular because I don't personally approve of the people playing it
okay troon
>brainless twitter troon addicts in their mid thirties who suffer from sunk cost fallacy and love a 50 years old japanese man
wow > xiv
Why do you always have to start the thread with shitty bait? Just say you want an FFXIV thread
janny deletes it if you do. This will probably died because the opening post should have an image of some modbeast abomination.
That is a very cute picture of my wife
Because no one plays FFXIV.
>WoW is more popular than their game
Not according to Warcraft Logs lol... https://twitter.com/WarcraftLogs/status/1609672850780344322
nice coomer bait thread tho
Views don't mean shit.
It usually means people are more interested in watching the game than playing it.
>asmomkiller is now an under 10k andy
grim…
Did asmon finally switch to a more relaxed format by ditching his main channel?
About 5 years ago, yes.
He has panic attacks when he streams on his main channel so yeah basically.
Being a woman is like playing life in ez mode
Not even a third of the views of the 2 duds above her. Fricking moron get mad at the correct things instead.
Who gives a shit about the viewers? I'm talking about how everyone is more the willing to shower her with money just for existing
>wow she gets 1/3 of the views of the top streamers
moron, her stream only exist to advertise the Onlyfans, where she makes about 2 millon USD monthly, also, go to simpcity.st to get her content for free.
#1 streamer is a guy who is basically viewbotting his channel, lmao
you’re just mad you’re not the one viewbotting, lol
your*
>your
ESL moment lol
if you are going to say something a moronic shitskin would say you should at least type like them for my immersion
>mad he got called out of his shit attempt at a nazi grammar raid
ESL moron
how are you wowbucks this fricking stupid lol
>loses
>a little bit of ad hominem ofc
moron
your*
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN’T MAKE FUN OF ME TRYING TO CORRECT YOU AND FAILING AT THAT!!!!!!
>IT’S YOUR!!!!!! NOT YOU’RE!!!!!!
lol
you gonna cry about it?
>projecting
lol
this dude is crying lol !
oh 46 posts in, and we're already at the "two autists get upset at other anon they don't actually know, and pretend they're not upset at each other for the following hundred posts" part of these threads.
You wish. That's just americans
maybe lol, they really are moronic Black folk over there
their. pronouns please.
>don't talk bad about my buddy fextralife!!
wew
>you’re the viewbotter’s friend
haha u jelly
hello fextra Black person
your wife is ugly and your wikis are dogshit
but you knew that since you wouldnt be paying to boost their search priority now would you
>D4 great game
>great views
>xiv shit game
>shit views
Views don't mean shit only when no one is watching your shit game
During the wow exodus you clowns were spamming asmongold's twitch analytics, and still were not able to beat wow lmao
>Companies hold FOMO DLC random behind ads in order to prop up the viewership of said ads so they reach actual new customers.
This shit is so ridiculous.
Why is she sitting like that and dressed like that... she's such a prostitute
Diablo 4 is more popular than either WoW or FFXIV currently, so yeah, the viewcount obviously correlates with that.
Genshin is far more popular than any of these games and has less views anon. Twitch views don't mean shit for games outside a new release
>Twitch views don't mean shit
Which game out of the top 20 twitch games are unpopular?
Genshin is bigger than most of the top 20 and it has garbage views on twitch. Only a couple like minecraft are bigger than it
Why didn't you answer the question?
Also, which games in the bottom 1000 of twitch are popular?
The point was there is bigger games with less views. Wow is fricking tiny compared to some of these other games despite having more 'twitch views.
It's not about saying they are unpopular just that there is bigger games than them and in wows case its audience is 30+ year old balding males who cant let go
>The point was there is bigger games with less views.
No, the words you used were "views don't mean shit". Do you have dementia, by any chance? Why the sudden goalpost shift?
Are you fricking moronic?
The fact that there are games on Twtich that have lower viewer counts despite having a large playerbase or vise versa proves that Twitch views isn't isn't an accurate metric to gauge the size of an active playerbase.
>if i can point out a minority of outliers, it disproves the rule
stunning insight, detective.
>muh outliers
They are not outliers, there are dozens of games that fit that description in the top 50 alone.
The fact that there is so much inconsistency in view counts vs actual playerbase means, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Twitch numbers cannot accurately indicate anything about a video game other than its popularity on Twitch.
>They are not outliers
yes they are
>there are dozens of games
twitch has literal tens of thousands of games on it. the overwhelming majority of them have viewership that roughly represents its current popularity. you are so fricking stupid it's unbelievable.
>yes they are
Prove it. You are making claims that are easily observer able as false by anyone with two braincells.
>twitch has literal tens of thousands of games on it
I said in the top 50 alone. Improve your reading comprehension.
>Prove it.
so far you've only been able to name like 2-3 out of tens of thousands of games on twitch.
even if you were able to name 50 games where popularity doesn't roughly match up with their viewership (and let's face it, you aren't), there would still be tens of thousands of games where it does, and your examples would still be outliers.
xiv cultists are the dumbest people alive i swear to fricking god lmao.
You're simply assuming all those games match their popularity though.
According to Twitch charts, games that are currently doing better than WoW despite having magnitudes fewer players
>Maplestory
>Dead by Daylight
>SF6
>Only Up!
Currently doing worse than WoW despite very likely having a larger userbases than WoW as it is now
>fricking music
>CoD MWII
>Genshin Impact
>Tears of a Kingdom
So there are already many games with a large disconnect between playerbases and Twitch views. And you think WoW is somehow magically different and it's popularity on Twitch has a direct correlation with total players.
Do you have proof of these claims? Are their populations officially listed?
It's common fricking sense. Obviously an old, semi-niche MMO like Maplestory has fewer players than WoW. And obviously a multiplatform normalgay containment game like CoD is going to fricking have more than WoW. You just don't want to concede because you know you're wrong and all you can do is double down and argue in circles.
MS is a massive MMO and always has been. Just like Runescape.
Both RS3 and OSRS has been slowly bleeding players for the last 10 or so years since they slowed content devlopment to a crawl and started piling on microtransactions and alt-bait gamemodes like Ironman and the new servers that consistently wipe progress like Tarkov or PoE. It began when Jagex sold off majority stake to an asset management corp and started being used like a financial fleshlight as the company has changed hands 4 times in the last decade.
Rant aside, my point is yes they are big, but not as big as WoW which despite it's spectacular failings still remains more popular.
Name 50.
Live Update
jenfoxx is so fricking hot
also lmao at amouranth
no shame
>Maybe if i donate enough she will have sex with me!
>the trad girl cosplay vs the blatant e-prostitute
I am a ff14 player and I think wow is more popular on twitch
I've played FFXIV but never WoW. Whats the appeal? looking at it it seems to be all about gays and troonys and doing the same instanced content with slightly higher numbers which all sounds extremely degenerate.
the only appeal to wow is
>you played the game 10 years ago and blizzard gave you cosmetics that no one can get anymore, so you have to keep playing forever so you have something you can feel """proud""" of
Retail WoW is degenerate yes.
Classic is pretty comfy though.
>gays and troonys and doing the same instanced content with slightly higher numbers which all sounds extremely degenerate
this is 100% ffxiv
the appeal of retail is being a sunk-cost fallacy moron that can't let go
the appeal of classic is nostalgia baiting until you realize it'll never be the same because you grew up, and society has changed
>Whats the appeal?
Powermetal aesthetics.
Faction identity.
War.
More stylized and holds up better.
Beast races that actually look like ferocious beastmen, not tumblr furries.
Class customization.
y..youre not serious
none of these have been present for years
some of those are also flat out white lies
>Beast races that actually look like ferocious beastmen
honestly just a good shitpost, i kneel bait god
lol you really just said this
>powermetal aesthetics
wotlk was the last time this was a thing
>faction identity
elves make up over 70% of the playerbase on both sides
>war
the only time the "war" was relevant in the past 10 years was the first 2 patches of bfa
>more stylized
once upon a time maybe
>beast races that look like ferocious beastmen
none of them do, literally none of them. tauren look like they belong in a dreamworks movie, worgen look like disney characters,
>class customization
fabrication when the difference between the optimal build and the next best thing will be MINIMUM 10% worse
You don't play wow. Post your character
really feeling the power metal aesthetic here
actually challenging and good gameplay that isn't just "now do your rotation for 20 minutes and stand in this exact spot"
A core principle of cults is not deny reality and only believe what dear leader says is right.
>Twitch viewers
>Google Trends
You morons will use anything that isn't the actual stated player counts from Blizzard and Square.
xiv last expansions was not able to beat dragonflight
people play wow
people dont play xiv
simple as
>nuh uh
Wonderful argument. Post the most recent playercount according to Blizzard., in an official announcement. Not your moronic tertiary metrics.
Wonderful argument. Post the most recent playercount according to Square., in an official announcement. Not your moronic tertiary me-wait, those are all in the shitter
I asked you first shill
I asked you first shill
I think I broke the chatbot
I think I broke your butthole
Did Blizzard also hand out a month of free game time after dragonflight release due to congested servers making it impossible to log in for weeks if you had a day job?
>due to congested servers making it impossible to log in for weeks if you had a day job?
>MY CHINK COMPANY HAS DOGSHIT SERVERS
>ON NO GUYS WE CANT HANDLE 100K PLAYERS
Nice flex moron
Wow is just bigger, after the shadowlands fiasco and people shilling your game non stop xiv was not able to reach 2 millions concurrent players, absolute flop
Is that a no?
>>MY CHINK COMPANY HAS DOGSHIT SERVERS
Or perhaps the playerbase for Endwalker's release as an order of magnitude larger than they anticipated?
They really couldn't plan for the absolute wave of WoWfugees playing the game after they all got fed up with Shadowlands.
on Twitch? of course it is, for whatever crazy reason, WoW players will literally watch someone do absolutely nothing but run around in circles on a stream while saying nothing interesting
This is unique among MMO viewers, and I don't know why it's so peculiarly specific with WoW viewers
This is inappropriate. We were having a fine discussion in this thread and you ruined everything
plz continue
What kind of pathetic bawd are you, that you post images to get other men horny you homosexual.
I don't remember this mob
Ivalice Raids, also a boss in 12
I appreciate you, at least
Are the sources to these only on some guys twitter or pixiv? Seems to be the only places xiv content is ever posted.
step on me yotsuyu
dick explodja
most "porn" (modded screenshots/animations) are usually first posted onto a patreon or some other panhandling website, then a twitter/pixiv account, then onto boorus and r34 from there
Why can't these people make lewds without messing with the sizes?
>this thread
yea, I'm thinking xiv won
GW2 won
oh hey youre here too ahem..
>dead troony game
nice try lol
>dead troony game
you mean ffxiv, right?
you know make the barry comparison all day my Black person
but ive played that game for years and watched it go from bad to dogshit
cope and seethe as much as you want, it wont change the fact that so many good devs and even leads jumped ship from that dead game
you are the one seething every thread, but whatever makes you happy :^)
is that why i always see you defending and replying whenever i or anyone else calls you out mister troon?
come now you must apply yourself
I am happy that you found your place in troony fantasy
ah completely given up have you
well such is the way with trannies, in the end youll give up on your life too ey
now post the turtle pic from >2015
funny thing is that it would still be better than the current state
the lows it got to are kind of impressive huh
Hi Barry
come on b***h, reply to me again or your mad
Do MMO players just idle in their hubs and come to these threads to throw shit at each other? You're all more alike than you are dissimilar.
>Shit game #1 is better then shit game #2
Insecurity. It's even more annoying muh consoles and then get pissy when you say that eso is also bigger than it because it's on more platforms.
Doesn't Blizzard regularly inflate their game's twitch viewership with "drops"
how the frick can you watch someone play an MMO? They are boring as shit to play, let alone watch someone else do it
>Blizzard used bots to shill Shadowlands on Ganker
>Blizzard used bots to shill Dragonflight on Ganker
>Blizzard used bots to shill Diablo 4 on Ganker
>somehow there are no bots on Twitch
If the XIV playercount is so low why is Square actively adding more and more servers every year while WoW hasn't?
to hide the fact ff14 failed with the last xpac
Why are those servers dead?
>Add new servers
>All are dead on arrival
The genius of Yoship. DC travel killed even some of the established servers.
The new ones are complete ghost towns where people can't even do the most basic shit.
>where people can't even do the most basic shit.
?
I thought raids, pvp and dungeons were data center-based. You don't do jack shit on the overworld anyways.
I have seen less than 10 people in the overworld while doing msq on a new server
>The genius of Yoship. DC travel killed even some of the established servers.
Split EU into 2 desolate wastelands
We will add a 3rd desolate wasteland!
I dislike XIV players because all measurable metrics indicate they have a much lower population, yet they insist upon being the highest based purely on some weird 'gut feeling' or something. A game getting good reviews or having nice developers doesnt mean its widely played.
just post the numbers and this nightmare will end
Warcraft enjoyers do the same shit, the truth is that all MMOgays screeching about numbers are just a bunch of insecure homosexuals that need the numbers to justify the time they spent in the game, a tale as old as time...
wowtards don't even try that anymore besides barry and co.
actual wow players have basically given up on trying to pretend their game has any players at this point, their cope is just that the game is perpetually in a "content draught" or people don't play because the game is "too hard for noobs like them"
I was an avid mmo player for a majority of my years 14-26 at least maybe even a bit longer, I probably still played mmos a bit, I'm 32 now but they are not fun at all in any way, they just fill a void in your life when you have nothing else to do, you will probably have more fun with friends playing cod or something, one of the biggest regrets I have is wasting so much time playing mmos
anyone wanna kiss?
kissing is for gays
No, I just want to RP without the E.
Rolplay?
Rollplay!
No, I don't even like to kiss my girlfriend.
I think its pretty common knowledge that WoW is bigger than FFXIV. Even WoW classic hardcore was fricking huge for about a month and i knew multiple people playing it. It is literally just FFXIV gays that are either trolling or are so sunk cost from their game that they actually believe that they are playing the most popular MMO in gaming
it says here you're trying to equate quality with popularity. care to explain yourself?
I love this smug lala like you wouldn't believe
Insecurity. Their entire sense of self-worth comes from feeling like they're playing the "correct" mmo. The playerbase is basically a positivity cult where they worship a multi-millionaire Japanese salaryman whose entire job is to run damage control for square enix.
You really took shitposting too seriously
Your parents didn't take you seriously enough.
That just sounds like a random line you are throwing at me
catboys..?
Twitch is my personality. I say poggers irl.
me too, I also get really visibly upset whenever someone says something bad about my favorite streamer, who is also my personal friend
Is it possible to somehow group up in frontier?
I swear sometime some team are just too well organized, but I don't know if it's that or my mind playing tricks due to me being a sore loser about it.
You can queue as 4man
Not a ff troony, but all of retail wows "popularity" is fake. Dragqueen flight servers are all ghost towns whilst classic servers are almost there.
>Dragqueen flight servers are all ghost towns whilst classic servers are almost there.
source?
Speaking of PvP it amazes me that there are literally giant ass "GO THERE DUMBFRICK" effects on the screen and people will still chase the lone bard to the ass end of the map regardless.
I understand the value of battle high but this feel like a fricked up notion of priorities.
my favorite wowo woca strimmer is max because he has 120k viewers but his chat moves slower than someone with 100 viewers so it's easy to talk to people!
This is probably one of his best, even if her face is a little weird.
what happened to all the hc streamers?
Suddenly there is no one streaming that shit
HC being hardcore? Maybe people were just in for the story and lost interest once the game was finished. I wouldn't want to watch someone else playing hardcore in my place, for one
Oh wait I am in the wrong bait thread. This isn't ff16
blizzard announced official servers so no one is bothering with unofficial anymore.
queue orbonne on aether please
no
Will someone PLEASE think of the advertisers?!
Why are paid WoW interns so afraid to admit that classic is more popular than retail?
if you come from WoW to XIV and play tank for the love of god stop provoking in the trials and what not, I fricking hate you drk gays
>tfw play DRK
>Actually always avoid doing this and if I'm offtanking I have no problem with it
>tfw the other day I actually accidentally fatfingered the provoke button
I'M SORRY I SWEAR THIS NEVER HAPPENS
I bet you're a fricking VI*RA too you fricking boy molesting fruit
When that happens to me I just say so in chat so the other tank won't think I was trying to flirt
a bait thread?
on Ganker?
no way
I wish I could lock you into a box and free you inside Barry's house
ive fapped to your lala before
I have a separate provoke macro for alliance raids that says "nuh uh tauntcel, I'm the main character" when one of the other tanks tries to provoke the boss off me, then I start spamming ranged enmity for the rest of the boss. and I do play a male viera in a bawdglam, thanks for asking
SLOPPEH
Why do people like blowjobs? It's a woman making a dumb fricking face
>Play FFXIV for years
>XIV players just playing the game and going to the fanfests as usual.
>WoW goes to shit
>wowfugees arrive at Erozea
>"XIV is soooo much better than that old WoW turd, heheh, I can't believe how good this game is, did you hear that Blizzard?! This game is sooooo fricking good heheh...."
>"Wait, is that classic servers and hardocore? oh wowsies, I better come back!"
No, YOU frick off my game
they can't leave their maze for long, no matter how hard they try
Just you wait chud, I'm gonna play classic hardcore and ASMON is gonna say my name and let me heal a dungeon for him!!
>move your bars wherever you want
>fully customizable action bars
is this farcical or did wowbucks really get excited over this
the ui update was one of the most moronic things they've wasted their time on. blizzard doing what mods already did, isn't wasting time and resources fun?
I miss pre-Shadowbringers FFXIV, everything was more niche and only true fans were involved in the game and events. Sadly the game got more and more popular, jobs became easier to play, shitters arrived and the rest is history.
> Sadly the game got more and more popular
Ah yes, it's so sad to see a MMO succeed and have a big playerbase.
I prefer things to stay with moderate success, too much and you attract normies and shitters that change how the game plays, and too little the game just dies or tries to change to attract normies.
The games that have this perfect balance for me is Monster Hunter and Bayonetta, and while every game is not a master piece, they tend to try and keep their playerbase happy.
A game you like becoming popular is the worst thing that can happen to it.
Mod??
Does anyone have that pic of Meteon sucking Hermes dick while Hydaelyn is watching?
WoW is a troony game.
3 lines?
>khloe
SAUCE
don't you see the big mosaic square? it's worthless
fool that you are
i have adapted to the eastern way
Tresh3d
love you
Both sides are extremely defensive because to admit the other game is "better" or "more popular" is to admit that they've wasted consecutive months or even years of their lives playing the wrong game. The same thing happens with Mobas.
what if you play both?
Then may God have mercy on your soul
>heh, that guy posted a character, I bet they will appreciate this shitty gpose pic I have of it
>guess they didn't see that one... maybe I better post another
what did wowchuds mean by this?
>posting a twitter screenshot on Ganker of a literally who posting a screenshot of Ganker on twitter
KILL
YOUR
SELF
u seem upset
>tfw frontline is dead as fricking disco starting midnight
I don't care if it's shit, I have a ton of fun in this senseless shitshow
>pubes
alright now you're speaking my language
Me on the left
Me on the right
all built for bbc
I don't understand the condom belt fetish, that shit's just nasty.
WoL looking really disturbing there.
dont listen to the other gay and do not hold on now
>actually decent ss instead of hideous lalas
What day is it
>ss
what?
Death to coomers.
Embrace class identity glams
have a nice day
no u
>Embrace class identity glams
>He says while wearing this year new year event glam that every job can wear
lol
lmao
>game release set of samurai armor
>WTF WHY IS SOMEONE WEARING IT ON SAM
>umm ackshuaklly xiv sams are ronins
you are such a fricking disingenuous Black person holy shit
lookin good
ERP trannies fear the proper glam and job style
>is a lalafell
yea im not taking ur shit seriously bud
yeah watever gay
Genuine serious male lalafell are rare but they exist. 99.% of them are either shitposting or severe mental illness but the few who do play them seriously go hard.
I once saw one in Limsa standing around in a raid queue or something had a really fricking good WAR glam with the ShB dwarf helmet and I regret not copying the recipie.
post more khloe pls
>last 4 patches all sucked
>ffxvi bombed
its joever for yoshi, isnt it. whos going to replace him after he commits sodoku?
me
barry moment
The mind of the FFXIV contrarian is permanently blinded by insecurity. FFXIV is by no means a terrible game, but it is an MMO for people that hate the beloved qualities established by its predecessors in the genre. When asked what the contrarian likes about FFXIV, they will say things like storyline, moddability, gear graphics, all classes on one character, aka minor features. What did the game sacrifice to get these? Well, it has vastly downgraded netcode, zone graphics, level design, world design, PvP, control responsiveness, open world content, class design, and the casual PvE content is the worst out of all modern MMOs by a huge margin despite the fact games like WoW and ESO have pretty shit casual PvE content too. If you claim to dislike Final Fantasy XIV, the permanently insecure FFXIV contrarian will approach a frenzy, raving about World of Warcraft even if it hasn't been mentioned yet. The psychological damage these people have been dealt for the better part a decade has driven them into a frenzy of sorts, where they will pollute Ganker with threads about Final Fantasy XIV's superiority and World of Warcraft's inferiority. They are terminally insecure.
Why are chinks like this?
https://www.xivmodarchive.com/user/365789
>asian man
>NTR shit
tale as old as time
it really is a wonder, they fantasize about Black folk breeding them out of existence. very disgusting
face 4 aura
everytime
where's the Khloe?
frick off to /b/ with your pedo shit.
>suddenly out of 10
whatever the frick that's supposed to mean.
Rynes got some knockers
I think both games are good.
Don't bother refuting this.
why did you bother saving that webm?
You can't deny that Destiny fricks some cute chicks.
no one cares since he lets his wife frick other men
based. does that make you feel insecure?
sup jim sterling
>promoting degeneracy
cringe matrix minded
>oh nooooo muh degeneracy
You people are so fricking boring lmao. Don't forget to repent to jesus or the dementors are gonna come take you to azkaban!
amy is a clear upgrade, his wife's a wing man essentially.
>deleted the most tame one because it's Khloe
they do it for free
I don't care, don't play my game.
if you're still playing retail WoW in current year you're basically not even human, you're the videogame equivalent of a drug zombie
especially since blizzard has been giving away all of their fomo maze memorabilia cosmetics for free on the trading shop shit and twitch prime, and they still just sit there and take it
sad when you rememeber 90% of wow's development time goes into making a raid once a year, and every other form of content gets gutted and kneecapped for the sake of mythic toddlers
Why does a troony roleplayer that doesn't even raid own and operate a raid parsing website
>Why does a troony roleplayer
kihra isn't a troony, moron.
>that doesn't even raid
that's also not true.
>own and operate a raid parsing website
not sure how you didn't know this, but being good at web dev doesn't require being a top world race autist in a video game.
>not a troony
proof?
>does raid
literally has "retired raider and roleplayer" on his twitter
>it totally makes sense
yeah, I am a trained chef irl, I hate polish food, so I am going to open a polish restaurant
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/33#difficulty=4
https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/54
>https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/54
how did FF beat WoW?
do stupid people think raid loggers are a tally of total subs? the lack of critical thinking when it comes to throwing out figures in this thread is embarrassing.
It's almost as bad as pointing at twitch view numbers
FF14 really lives rent free in wowgays minds doesn't it
someone's gotta care since your producer sure as fricking doesn't
But enough about wow
Ff has 3 million, wow has 1 to 1.5 million players including classic players
>Ff has 3 million, wow has 1 to 1.5 million players including classic players
Why do FFXIV trannies make up numbers so often? Not even luckybancho's laughably flawed census supports this claim.
>Why do FFXIV trannies make up numbers so often?
Why do WoWtards never actually post the player population according to Blizzard?
There is no player population "according to blizzard". They stopped reporting subs a decade ago, and FF has never reported sub numbers.
Neither game releases sub numbers
At least wow used to
The burden of proof lays on you deranged XIVtroons that make up imaginary numbers while every adjacent metric paints the picture of a dead game
Or do you want us to believe it is perfectly normal for a game with supposedly millions of players to be completely dead on sites like Youtube?
>WoWtards can't prove they're larger than XIV
>but XIV players have the burden of proof despite any fricking mention of the game on Ganker in any context causes a billion WoW players to whine about how their game is ackshully more popular every time
virtually all adjacent metrics show wow being more popular than ffxiv.
it's exclusively xiv players that claim the numbers they made up in their minds are more important than google trends, youtube, etc. it doesn't take a genius to determine which side has better evidence for the more popular game lmao. so yes, the burden of proof is on ffxiv players.
>virtually all adjacent metrics
Except the actual playercount. You morons have been spamming Google Trends and Twitch viewers for over a year now because that it all you have.
ok genius, so if you want to engage in the shitflinging, what can one use?
wow doesn't release official sub numbers
xiv doesn't release official sub numbers
it's either your "feelings" or 3rd party metrics
>Except the actual playercount.
The actual playercount isn't an "adjacent metric", you fricking moron. It's an unknown primary metric, which is why we're using adjacent metrics in the first place. We've been over this like 5 times and multiple people have clearly and slowly explained it to you in clear english. You have an actual learning disability.
>You morons have been spamming Google Trends and Twitch viewers for over a year now because that it all you have.
and all you have are numbers you invented in your mind. which do you think is more reliable?
How much of the recent uptick is people googling about the WoW HC servers?
You don't have to answer me, it's most of them. Nobody cares about dragonflight
To be fair, xivg is massively faster than wowg, on /vg/. If someone uses only Ganker, it's easy to (wrongly) deduce that xiv is more popular than wow.
u just argued wow doesnt have that many players because "billions of wow players come out to defend the game every thread."
You contradict yourself in your own post.
>u just
Isn't it your bedtime, junior?
BLU update when?
The .5 update coming in August iirc
Narcissism, gender dysphoria, autism, and various other mental health issues coupled with confirmation bias from other ff troons where 90% of their playerbase are all "exwow players" so to them it FEELS like "everybody i know quit wow for ff!" Creating a mass delusion amongst its playerbase of a big migration from wow to ff when in reality the ff playerbase is basically just a small subset of disgruntled ex wow players who are very vocal.
source?
This is console war homosexualry but even more pathetic because console gays have actual numbers to compare
Both are shit. Move the frick on, nobody cares
Is the rising reward going to be the power ranger set?
>My stinking garbage is more popular!
>No, MY stinking garbage is more popular!
WoW has better atmosphere while FFXIV is less manipulative, but both belong in the trash.
Why are you so obsessed with what FFXIV players think? Just go play your game, you insecure homosexual.
>WoWgays in charge of making their own threads without mentioning FFXIV to discuss their own fricking game
>if FFXIV isnt mentioned the thread hits page 10 and fricking dies.
Literally the most rent free shit ive seen.
>more popular
literally who cares
christ what is with the sudden influx of braindead zoomers? all you fricking talk about is HURR MUH SALES FIGURES IS X MORE POPOOLAR OR IS Y MORE POPOOLAR I HAVE TO KNOW
do you even play games?
twitchgays dont play games, thats why they watch other homosexuals play games.
Do people actually find this balloon breasts shit attractive or is it all just a big shitpost and I'm not in on the joke?
So Final Fantasy overtook WoW now that it's at its lowest point ever? WoW was a worldwide phenomenon with over 10 million subscribers throughout the mid-late 2000s, it was in the news, had very popular commercials, got its own critically acclaimed South Park episode, etc. Nobody talks about Final Fantasy, it's completely irrelevant and it has absolutely no cultural impact whatsoever. Both are not comparable whatsoever.
>wow was the KING OF THE WOOOOORLD
>now it's not
what hiring Black folk, gays, and trannies does to an mf'er
>it's completely irrelevan
And yet it lives rent free eternally in wowgays minds.
WoW's peak wasn't its own. That was the peak of the genre. Other MMOs back in the 2000s had millions of players too. People in general just dont play MMOs much anymore.
>Other MMOs back in the 2000s had millions of players too.
This isn't true at all, btw. Even Everquest 1 peaked at around 250k subs.
Both FF and current WoW dwarf 00s mmos in terms of numbers (apart from 00s WoW, obviously).
Lineage 2 absolutely had more players than WoW at its peak.
>Lineage 2 absolutely had more players than WoW at its peak.
No, that's complete bullshit.
Lineage 1 had a few million at one point, but I don't think 2 every got nearly that big.
My workplace has 3-4 people that play ffxiv while it has one delusional wow bro.
Nobody outside people who have played wow for the last 20 years gives a frick about the game or even knows it exists. If you asked most people about it randomly they would probably know about it but have no idea if it was still going or not
cool larp bro
>xiv cultists are literally making up stories about their imaginary real lives now
lmao
Why is it so hard to accept that nobody plays wow outside coping balding boomers?
id rather chill with a wow player than a homosexual larping as lallafel in ffxiv
>inb4 you can be a female in wow too hurf
yeah, but one is WAY gaygier than the other
As opposed to hanging with a homosexual furry in wow?
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the best game of this generation, the sales figures say so
>fricking fifa has more viewers than wow
FIFA is extremely popular, yes. You solved the mystery.
So why doesn't it have 325x the views of wow?
Thats copies sold. And WoW has hundreds of millions of copies sold too.
Pretty sure XIV is going to be shutdown after Yoshi P is fired. XVI is not even profitable.
>fricking "i'm only sleeping" has more viewers than xiv
Tell me honestly what you actually believe the player counter of wow and ffxiv is. No bullshit or memes just your actual expectations
Wow: 1.5~1.8 million
ffxiv: 1.3~1.5 million
I've played both and wow may be popular but the world feels empty as frick even on popular serves.
Honestly even if it isn't true right now, WoW will eventually dip below XIV because the new player experience is abject dogshit. I got bored of XIV for a bit and tried WoW in Shadowlands as a player with 0 nostalgia for the game an honestly it's absurd how poorly put together the game is. Lots of unnecessary time wasting mechanics like the game being a vast field of fricking nothing content 20 levels below you that you don't have any reason to do but your mount moves at a snails pace and teleports are absurdly scarce. Also the fact that trying to hunt for mounts or transmogs requires you to have 30 alts grinding for a 1% droprate on a weekly lockout or 3 months of dailys for 6 year old content is crazy. Plus the campaign for Shadowlands put me to fricking sleep and I don't get how people can take a 15+ year old storyline and make it as boring as A Realm Reborn was.
Meanwhile, XIV has really put a lot of effort into improving new player experience by condensing ARR as much as they can, adding Trusts to make the game basically singleplayer up to Heavensward, adding flying to ARR zones just for completing 2.0, and so on. Plus the timegates are minimal and there is a wealth of casual side-content while everything but current-tier raiding in WoW is basically just vestigial legacy content.
Worth getting into XIV in 2023? How many years does the game have left before they make another FF mmo
it has another 10 years of planned content
I play XIV and endwalker didn't even have a year worth of content planned. The game has been getting more and more sparse shit peaked at Stormblood and its all been downhill.
>its not content if i don't like it
raidhomosexuals need to go and stay go
I quit raiding during shb because they dumbed down all the jobs an insane amount and its just not great anymore. Its more the lack of Eureka/Bozja/Deep Dungeon. We don't get even the weird shit like Diadem anymore. Hell even back when people just spammed diadem for diablo style loot that was more interesting than Criterion since you got some kind of reward from it. I'm at the point I don't know why I login since there isn't going to be anything worth doing till the last 24 man raid and then thats it till the next expansion. Lack of relics has fricking murdered my will to even stay active on the game I would have unsubbed a long ass time ago if I didn't have a private large house.
sounds like you are addicted to quest completion. that dopamine hit of seeing a number go up.
recommend an alt, or getting over it. i didn't get 1 experience point in bozja and it never bothered me, and i'm currently grinding EW fates on a level 90 job
Nah not even I just want to play the game with friends again. These days I've basically just been capping with them and that it. I've been getting through my backlog some and playing XI on and off mostly instead of playing xiv.
>FFXIV got Asmongold to play
>game surges in popularity
>tons of streamers and youtube content being made
>Endwalker begins and is dog shit
>all the streamers finish MSQ and quit
>anyone who stuck around is cancelled or falls into obscurity and stops streaming entirely
>"prease buy a PS5 for my game" - YoshiP
>pisses off any last good will he had for the the next expansion with such a mediocre game for that price point
>Banri Oda gets butthurt that Ishikawa is universally praised and removes her from writing for the game for some moron who wrote the Bard storyline
never seen some shit catapult itself into mediocrity so quickly
It's gonna be really fricking funny when next expansion will be selling so well they will have to pause sales, just like with Endwalker. I wonder what kind of cope you will have to resort to then?
>If I say cope I win
you're out of your complete fricking mind if you think there is even remotely as much hype as SHB going into EW for 7.0
I can say seethe as well, but what you're doing right now is 100% coping.
asmongold wasn't the one that broke the dam. he was just the biggest fish to come through
Shb patches and EW exposed Ishkawa as a hack, I can't wait for the HW guys to come back
>wanting HW guy back after FF16 story
After what? That game is not out.
Uh, FF16 is out though? And it's story is ass
Will there ever be a good, new MMO?
Leave it to me sirs.
>sir doesn't know
even Ghostcrawler jumped ship
and he was the fricking head of the project
no
wow has perfected tab-targeting combat
but nobody is going to straight up just copy then make something good with it
its going to sink along with blizzard
Shame retail WoW's setting is dogshit.
Shit game full of homosexuals and trannies
>muh twitch
have a nice day, unironically.
Never tried wow because the characters are ugly