if you need college to use linux you might just be one of the "special kids"
kek the only true morons are the people that fall for obvious b8. you can just tell these are brain degrading boomers and their brain stopped being able to understand deduction reasoning
If I have to take time to “learn” some off brand OS after decades of PC usage it’s probably not worth it. I like Windows 10 anyway, I don’t care what people say about it.
It takes a week of half assed trial and error, and googling some shit to reach the same proficiency in Linux as you would in Windows. If your ADHD ass can't manage that then don't forget your lifevest when you shower ig
You have to be some drooling moron not to be able to use modern day linux
not this Anon but when i went to university i had to take a computer class learning how to use LaTex and a versio
of Linux that was completely cmd operated
Fellas will become a professional digital artist, video editor, but LITERALLY ONLY KNOW HOW TO USE SPECIFICALLY ADOBE, just not to use linux.
There was a thing I saw a while ago about how zoomers don't understand folders on a computer
No chance they could even follow a tutorial to install Linux
i find it hilarious that Microsoft can frick you in the ass tell you its fricking you in the ass and you wont do anything but take it like a little b***h
do people not realize that with adoption will come support?
i'd rather move to freebsd than to move to homosexualnux OS, you degen nerds are the most insufferable bunch of weirdos online
>Install Lutris >Windows version of games now run better than their linux ports
You have to be a literal fricking moron at this point to struggle with linux.
You're overselling how good Adobe "Here's what's totally $69000000 of software on a $60 a month subscription please don't use alternatives please please please!" software is.
Inkscape is unusable trash. Adobe gets away with charging what they do because the alternatives are so bad, even being free doesn't make them worth it.
>Implying individuals pay for adobe
My company pays for my subscription. And everyone who freelances simply pirates. There's practically no reason why someone who actually wants to get shit done would pass up good, proven software with tons of resources and documentation for muh free and open source.
My point is the asking price is not really a factor because nobody who works for a company is expected to pay their own CC and individuals who do freelance work can pirate it in 2 seconds of googling. Software created by a multi billion dollar company that actually has proper direction and user experience resources is going to shit all over free software made by a few people who know how to code and not much else almost every time.
The enterprise pricing model and its consequences have been a disaster for professional software.
Of course a company that will treat even tangible objects that they own as subscriptions will have no issues treating software as a subscription, and the potential profit lost from moving a baby duck employee who loves the software he got a student license for to better software cancels out the money saved from not using something that's highly expensive and exploitative.
are you moronic
shit like that is standard business practice
>try gimp >paste image >it won't let me move it >maybe I have to hold shift or ctrl to move it? >nope >ok so MOVE tool won't move it but lasso will >ok I'm done moving it let me do something else >it's stuck in this weird mode where the image is selected but won't let me do anything >try hitting enter >nothing >try hitting a bunch of other keys, select all, deselect >nothing
I just got so pissed that I just quit and use kolour-paint. I don't know why so many art programs suck. Only these mspaint clones work. I just want something simple but with transparency. I remember being similarly pissed at inkscape as well. They always refuse to follow conventional standards and shortcuts. Like they'll use ctrl+c/v for something other than cut/paste.
>but is a level above the turd known as GIMP
It can't be "a level above" because they serve different purposes.
Krita is for drawing.
GIMP is for image manipulation.
GIMP is very powerful but also very obtuse and unintuitive.
You can either learn it or give up learning it and just google every little thing you do in it - that'll cover 95% use cases for it.
I like krita. Support for my screen tablet is actually better on Arch with OpenTabletDriver than it was on windows. Pleasantly surprised me when I made the switch from win LTSC to arch.
I started on gimp. When I moved to Photoshop it was like "whoa, this program actually does everything I tell it to".
Photoshop has its flaws. It's bloated and sometimes needlessly slow. But it has so much more than Gimp, and once you get used to the controls it actually works properly
Also, I'm not shilling because I have a pirated copy lol
There was a thing I saw a while ago about how zoomers don't understand folders on a computer
No chance they could even follow a tutorial to install Linux
Do you even need a tutorial to install Linux? I think most distros by now have installers that are no more complicated to follow along than a Windows program installer.
Correct. Installing Linux Mint was easier for me than installing Windows. In fact, almost everything about Mint has been easier than Windows.
I still use Win10 on my desktop for some specific games and programs, but it's pirated (as I have been doing since Windows 7) with all telemetry disabled, so Microsoft can still get fricked.
zoomers are so fricking helplessly moronic, they won't even know to press the F12 key to illicit the boot device selection menu. never mind them even using a computer with a dignifiable storage drive, they're being handed a world where their interest in technology has no reason go beyond a flagship iphone and laptops that have soldered RAM and 24/7 screen-recording surveillance by the manufacturer "for their safety"
i find it hilarious that Microsoft can frick you in the ass tell you its fricking you in the ass and you wont do anything but take it like a little b***h
do people not realize that with adoption will come support?
It makes way more sense when you realize virtually nobody actually makes a decision when it comes to their operating system.
This being most of Microsoft's market strategy.
Yes, and that is also the core now of Valve's strategy selling Steam Deck.
It is also the danger to PC gaming as we know it, because if Microsoft makes their OEMs switch to ARM hardware as Microsoft themselves have indicated, that could very quickly translate into PC gaming becoming even more niche.
The problem with that idea is that Linux isn't standardized.
There are too many versions of Linux for adoption to be that simple.
https://i.imgur.com/ws2Iv62.png
The peripheral stuff surrounding gaming doesn't necessarily support Linux, like certain stupid software for specific hardware.
Even if the game runs, the social BS might not.
I mean, I guess steam sort of does half heartedly.
I only play single player games so that doesn't affect me but I get why it scares the normies.
It makes way more sense when you realize virtually nobody actually makes a decision when it comes to their operating system.
This being most of Microsoft's market strategy.
This is really the MVP post ITT.
Much like web browsers, most people just use what their shit comes with.
Furthermore, the concept of speaking with your wallet has become a thing of the past it seems.
It's why your average npc buys 9001 subscription services to watch TV, they just accept it as the norm.
>Much like web browsers, most people just use what their shit comes with.
Isnt that completely false though?
Everyone uses edge to install chrome and then uses that
>i find it hilarious that Microsoft can frick you in the ass tell you its fricking you in the ass and you wont do anything but take it like a little b***h
Not an argument, Linuxgays are like this too >Rust kernel support >another tool rewritten by systemd >forced wayland before it was stable >newer kernels often break systems, still pushed
Same incompetency, just under different names
>do people not realize that with adoption will come support?
so what you're saying is >just eat shit for an indeterminate amount of time and hopefully one day it won't be so fricked if enough people also decide to eat shit!
I don't want an operating system where I'm constantly begging for ports for basic applications and games on forums for most of my time instead of actually using them, and I don't want an operating system that requires me to type in command line prompts for rudimentary things that should just be included in a GUI
NTA but being a linux user, I can think of three niche games that no one gives a shit about that I play regularly that just don't work
>Byond
I love Space Station 13 but it requires archaic IE8-9 binaries that Wine has not figured out how to include. You can launch it but never play anything with it. >DCS World
I'm a sim boomer >Any FPS with lots of kernel-level spying like Apex
To be fair I don't actually want to play this shit, it's just for the hypothetical
>requires archaic IE8-9 binaries that Wine has not figured out how to include
I've seen at least one other game with this problem, but it's just the launcher for it that fails as a result. A shitty issue that should probably be easy to fix yet demand for it is so low nobody has bothered.
You use windows. You are used to eating shit. Besides wine is at the point where you can basically anything you want. 9 times out of 10. And it's still getting worked on and improving.
I'm still using Windows 7. All the games I like playing still work on it. I don't care about new games because they are not games for me anyway. Sorry but I will simply not use Linux, ever.
Once you've learned to use one Linux disto 99% of that carries over to any other. Just pick a flavor of Ubuntu that comes with a desktop environment you like.
The secret is that most of them are just Debian or Arch
And the difference between those is whether they update frequently or not
There's not really that much of a difference.
They're literally just different flavors of the same shit. Just determine what you want in terms of >stable/bleeding edge >package manager >default desktop environment
Shit like init system doesn't matter for beginners
Only Debian/Arch/Fedora matter. Due to the tendency of Linux softwares not having binary readily available, Arch would give you the least amount of headache due to AUR helper which skips all the manual steps for compiling shit.
Just install mint and call it a day, they are all basically the same. The destop enviroment is more a personal taste thing, but everyone more or less agrees you can't go wrong with xfce. Gnome and KDE are nicer visually, but they have their own set of problems.
because, like all software, it's developed incrementally. ideally, newer versions fix problems or add features. for example, kernel version 2.1 might fix a compatibility issue with certain hardware that was present in version 2.0
Just use Tribble OS. It's based on a Debian fork but with most of the Linux stripped out and replaced with sideloaded distros. Or pepperjack with any compatable wrapper that's tied to Arch (just nothing older than v1.2.1). Zord, kelpdesk, and pengooner are all better options if you don't mind command line.
Because lots of shit from Windows doesn't work right/at all on Linux.
At the end of the day people care more about being able to use their PC the way they're used to than sticking it to microsoft or whatever.
they are LITERALLY telling you that your computer will actively record EVERYTHING you do now and that's not a good enough reason?
i never EVER want to hear anyone here whine about their "privacy" again
Everyone who says this is a techlet. You're being watched, but how? There's a difference between "This client is making connections to some computer, located on some cloudflare server, transferring something." and "I am recording literally every mouse and keystroke for usage and there is no way for you to tell whether it is malicious or not"
If you can't make a decision between these two because you think they are "Le same" then you should just give me all your money right now before you get scammed by a tech support grift because all spying is "Le same" to you.
For me it's because I already know a large amount of keyboard shortcuts and OS fixes and other nuances that come from experience. Just don't feel like starting from scratch again.
I know I should always be learning, but staying proficient at windows and windows data programs is way more important to the career fields I am interested in.
>Why are gamers afraid of Linux
Because it's already annoying enough to troubleshoot games on Windows let alone on whatever Linux distro you end up using. Most people like to play video games as an escape not because they're tech heads. The average gamer is basically tech illiterate
Leftists are the ones making AI. It's just the feminine artists who are butthurt. Masculine programmers, lawyers, engineers, etc. all use AI on a daily basis to do menial shit like finding information.
It does a good job finding info. You just need to ask it to give sources. It can't think for you, you still have to double check what it says, but most of the time it's good enough, especially when you already know what the answers should be, without knowing which is correct.
It's definitely not good enough if I have to verify and double check everything.
I tried using it for some basic stuff for a paper I was writing to try it out and was completely useless.
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You have to verify and double check shit you find on Google too. You wouldn't blindly trust what some Reddit post says or read Wikipedia and not at least glance over the sources.
AI is just summarizing shit that you'd find through a search.
And that's just one function. You can use it to write simple bash scripts for you, and you just have to fix a few things to actually make it work. Hell, I told ChatGPT to make me an overtime calculator that automatically applies overtime over 40 hours. It did it and I didn't have to modify anything.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So this absolutely amazing tool can't even handle finding basic academic information and I am supposed to verify it all but it's totes mcgoats awesome?
3 weeks ago
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It can find basic academic information though, what are you even talking about?
Quit seething troony, you're not going to be replaced by AI.
And yes you should be verifying shit you read online.
Debian does have outdated packages, yes, but "literally 7 years out of date" is an impressive overreaction. Each Debian version lasts roughly 2 years, so for the majority of packages, ~2 years is about the max age you will see. Can this bite you in the ass? Yes. I found a small bug in Debian 12's version of ffmpeg that was fixed a few minor versions after it, and I'll have to either wait until the next version of Debian or update to the rolling `testing` version, aka Trixie. But other than that, Debian has been the most stable thing I've ever encountered. And I mean "doesn't crash or frick up in some way" stable, in this case.
I chose it because I wanted a community built and managed distro, but Arch is too autistic. Debian (and perhaps Debian testing, if you need newer packages that can't be backported), was a reasonable middle ground between community managed and just werks for me.
That's not an overreaction, Debian LITERALLY has packages that are 5+ years out of date.
Their version of restic is from 2020 for example and that's just one I've personally ran into in the past few months.
3 weeks ago
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What? Are we looking at he same restic?
https://github.com/restic/restic/releases/tag/v0.14.0 >restic 0.14.0 >Aug 25, 2022
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/restic >restic (0.14.0)
So it's a little less than two years old. Trixie's verison of restic is up to date with upstream. This is about on par with what I said in my original post, and much less than the "5+ years out of date" you mention.
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Maybe it was longer than I thought. Good to see Debian being less moronic then.
Honestly a weird thing to rely on.
A text search that intentionally fricks up the results just enough to not be a legal landmine.
I get basically every search engine is completely non-functional at this point, but still.
The alternatives are Google, Bing, etc. which all just give you "promoted" content followed by SEO slop that is AI generated anyway.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
True, we probably need like, a new from the ground up search index actually curated by people.
I can't imagine there's that many real sites on the internet to catalog.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There's private search engines that you have to pay for in exchange for them filtering out SEO/AI slop and not selling your data.
If you don't pay for something then you're the customer. Even on Ganker that is true.
3 weeks ago
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Ho ho ho you silly, you made a mistake in your post.
3 weeks ago
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Not him. >If you don't pay for something then you're the product* *which is how the phrase goes.
This is a bullshit line because open-source software exists, and even when you >buy a car >they harvest your data to sell it to advertisers >you have to pay to have access to the data they harvest from you
3 weeks ago
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Open source software is funded by multi-billion dollar corporations who need super-comptuers and cloud computing.
>then you're the customer
It's "you're the product" you dumb frick.
You are always the customer if you are using a service. Any service. That's what being a customer is.
Obvious typo, troon. Deal with it.
3 weeks ago
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>Open source software is funded by multi-billion dollar corporations who need super-comptuers and cloud computing.
Not all of it. Very infamously, Apache Log4j 2 was funded by just 1 (one) Apache employee.
3 weeks ago
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Well yeah, it's not always the company pouring money into it, but they are paying the devs to do "pet projects" on company time.
3 weeks ago
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Ah, Apache Foundation, that famous multi-billion dollar company.
3 weeks ago
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They're a multi-million dollar non-profit. Still a corporation, just smaller.
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>moving the goalposts
LMAO. Equating multi-billion to multi-million is braindead.
3 weeks ago
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>t. Bernie Sanders
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Hey it could be the gravel institute, it doesn't necessarily have to be bernie.
3 weeks ago
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Bernie's just my favorite to point to because he cartoonishly shifted his hatred of the rich from millionaires to just billionaires the instant he became a multimillionaire himself. Also trying to deny that him owning four houses is bougie as frick.
3 weeks ago
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Oh, no I'm aware of him fleecing people.
The gravel institute is a personal funny case, because in their silly demoralization nonsense about the American Dream being dead, they had to switch from millionaire to billionaire because technically, you're actually more likely to have a net worth in the millions than end up homeless in the US.
Especially if you control for drug usage.
3 weeks ago
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Apache is a multi-million dollar non-profit that makes its money from mutli-billion dollar corporations. How is that moving the goalposts?
3 weeks ago
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>the proletariats who make a living from working for gayMAN are exactly the same as gayMAN
3 weeks ago
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They make their money from corporations. Same for the Linux Foundation. That's why open source software doesn't spy on you and sell your data, it's because they sell the software to giant corporations.
3 weeks ago
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Explain emulators, then.
3 weeks ago
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Aren't they on life support from IBM?
3 weeks ago
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>multimillion
A boomer who owns 2 houses >multibillion
A tycoon who owns a thousand boomers
3 weeks ago
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>then you're the customer
It's "you're the product" you dumb frick.
You are always the customer if you are using a service. Any service. That's what being a customer is.
Debian for the most stable and most baseline experience.
Arch, if you want to pretend you like tinker with shit.
Gentoo if you actually like tinker with shit.
DE literally doesn't matter.
Using something "stable" or "bleeding edge" barely means anything for specialized libraries and software - you'll either be curling/wgetting the install script manually or using separate repos.
I run Debian in WSL.
Setting up YubiKey passthrough was an experience but otherwise it's pretty hands-off.
No DE, though.
>Debian for the most stable and most baseline experience.
lol no. Maybe if you're trying to run a server OS, but even then Debian is autistic and broken, using packages that are half a decade or more out of date because "stability".
If you plan to play video games on your computer then Debian is probably one of the worst options you can pick. You're unironically better with Kubuntu at that point.
>using packages that are half a decade or more out of date because "stability".
Literally doesn't matter.
If you need something that's not on the official repos you just add the repos where it's available.
As a matter of fact, the vast, vast majority of outdated packages on Debian are outdated because they work just fine and there is no particular need to keep EVERYTHING up to date.
It's better to know what and why are you updating than otherwise.
And "figuring out" what is it you are missing won't be a problem because Debian is unparalleled in terms of the information available online (mostly due to Ubuntu being the most mainstream distro there is).
Until you as a new user don't understand that you can't run/install a program because the library you have installed is literally 7 years out of date.
Good luck compiling obscure shit from source on Debian as well, then again with flatpaks and stuff that's not as much of an issue these days.
>Until you as a new user don't understand that you can't run/install a program because the library you have installed is literally 7 years out of date.
Doesn't really happen and when it does the solution is a single Google search away. >Good luck compiling obscure shit from source on Debian as well
Literally not an issue.
Truly "obscure shit" is not required for anything mainstream to function.
When it is, the necessary dependencies will either be listed in the readme on the repo or, alternatively, will be a single Google search away because it's Debian we are talking about.
EVERYTHING accounts for Debian one way or another. You'd be moronic not to.
Debian does have outdated packages, yes, but "literally 7 years out of date" is an impressive overreaction. Each Debian version lasts roughly 2 years, so for the majority of packages, ~2 years is about the max age you will see. Can this bite you in the ass? Yes. I found a small bug in Debian 12's version of ffmpeg that was fixed a few minor versions after it, and I'll have to either wait until the next version of Debian or update to the rolling `testing` version, aka Trixie. But other than that, Debian has been the most stable thing I've ever encountered. And I mean "doesn't crash or frick up in some way" stable, in this case.
I chose it because I wanted a community built and managed distro, but Arch is too autistic. Debian (and perhaps Debian testing, if you need newer packages that can't be backported), was a reasonable middle ground between community managed and just werks for me.
The outdated packages in debian won't matter for most general use desktop purposes, but for gaming stability and performance Arch is the best bet just because of the defacto support from steamOS literally just being arch lmao.
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For sure. Debian definitely is not ideal for gaming.
Even installing arch these days is a stupid easy 3 minute process.
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Do yourselves a favor and stop having stockholm syndrome for windows. There are multiple linux native equivalents for all the software you're likely to use as a desktop user, typically better quality than win shit. Actually explore your options, test it out, dual boot. Once you're used to it you'll refuse to go back to micro$oft hell.
>all companies work on Microsoft system >huh let make another OS that is not as user friendly and make it more difficult to make games on, linus is sure to much support too >most companies don't even bother using linux cause it's a waste of time and resources >poor people move over to it because they can't spend money on getting windows >people cry 'why won't you make games for my shitty and crappy OS that is harder to make games on too!'
99.99% of vidya doesn't have native binaries for Linux. Those do no longer work due to newer Linux library shenanigans and the Windows version ends up being the only way to play through WINE.
It's WINE's fault, actually
Blame the moronic ideals of free software and their hatred of not including dependencies with binaries that makes any game binary compiled for Linux break in a decade.
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Yeah, that is the real problem with Linux. It's not really the OS itself, it's the dependency soup that occurs because the ideals of free software, just like communism, don't actually work in the real world.
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Anonymous
I'm not sure about this one because old vidya on Windows don't work most of the time and they come with every dependency of the game installed
I don't think pre-packaged dependency is the issue
You could play GLQuake from 1997 on Windows 10. But Linux port of HOI4 from 2019 no longer work on modern Linux.
That makes Linux objectively inferior. Simple as.
>99.99% of vidya doesn't have native binaries for Linux.
You mean 86.28%?
About 13.72% of Steam games have a Linux version.
Source: Steam store search and a calculator.
To be fair, you have to keep in mind 13% of steam games isn't bad when you consider just how much fricking shovelware, low-effort hentai games and other junk is on there. If we were talking % of REAL games, it'd probably be higher, but still not a ton.
>It's adobe's fault for not bothering to make a version for an irrelevant operating system used almost exclusively by hippies who hate paid/closed source software anyway
This is like complaining about adobe not bringing their latest software to windows 98
>I won't use Linux >Why? >Adobe products don't work on it >Why? >Nobody uses it >Why? >Because Adobe products don't work on it
How the frick would this get solved by Linux users?
People use linux because "muh free software", they have an ideological opposition to paid software. Every linux homosexual will tout how their FOSS alternative is as good as whatever the paid industry standard is. And of course they're full of shit 9/10 times. Then people just go back to windows.
Windows must be super garbage if people like the one pictured in the original post unironically take time out of their day to make an image macro for expressing their refusal to use a super niche alternative rather than just not thinking about it at all, while people like (You) actively come into every single Linux-related thread desperately insisting that no one cares about Linux.
If I switch to linux how often do I have to compile programs myself before I can install them? Program compiling comes up too often in linux discussions for it not to be something I have to do on the OS.
If you use an arch based distro it's basically an automatic process requiring no effort. Your AUR helper (like Yay) will do it for you when you want to install something.
On arch the only thing I've had to compile is PCSX2 because the devs for it are morons and the flatpak doesn't work.
All I had to type was
git clone /pcsx2 url/
cd pcsx2
makepkg -si
Also there's a binary for it so I didn't even have to compile it, I just felt like it.
i use opensuse tumbleweed, it's "bleeding edge" in the sense that the company suse makes sure the packages work and then pushes them out asap, and i haven't had to compile shit in years.
You shouldn't really need to unless you're doing something obscure. I've gotten into the habit of compiling most of the emulators I use, but I think they all have already compiled binaries or appimages in their github downloads so I don't really need to be doing that.
Very few things are not available from packages.
For most of those, you'll have install scripts, which are copy-pasteable.
"Compiling" most of the time means >installing the necessary dev libraries >running a single command >waiting for a minute or two
Quite often, you'll have a script provided which automates the above process into a single command.
Sometimes, for more dev-oriented things, "compiling" (the real one) would mean checking out the repo (a single command), and running the compiler (another command).
For non-dev stuff, you'd normally only do this when you want the latest and greatest version of a given package but it's not on repos yet, so instead of waiting for the release and for repos to update, you can clone the source code and compile it yourself.
That's not necessary most of the time.
Very rarely will you ever have to actually open the code, set up variables, and do anything more difficult than that.
Even the dreaded "recompiling the kernel" process is actually very casual in the vast majority of real use cases.
Shit like browsers and steam can be downloaded from the store or through terminal, but if you want to use something more specific and niche, you will definitely have to compile it yourself every time.
I have been using various Linux distros as my main OS for about six years.
I have never compiled a single thing. I don't even know how I would do it without a guide. I have been just fine and it hasn't affected my vidya experience at all.
SteamOS is just baby proofed, mobile focused arch with KDE plasma and a modified steam big picture mode on load.
If you want to game on linux do the following: >use arch (or an easier arch based distro like endeavor)
Why? It's lightweight and bleeding edge = good perf & most recent updates = all the gaming benefits and compatibility. Everything benefiting steamOS is in baseline arch. >use xfce4 as your desktop environment
Why? It's stable, simple and minimalist. KDE plasma is a popular choice (and the deck uses it for its desktop mode) but it's kind of a buggy POS sometimes. This is a personal rec, you can experiment with different DEs >If use use an nvidia card, use the proprietary nvidia drivers bc the open source ones suck atm >install steam >add any windows games to steam via non steam games to load proton and run them with no fuss. >learn what a package manager and AUR helper are and how to use them to update your programs/system routinely. Basic maintenance.
you are now an epic linux gamer here's your shitposting license and complementary neckbeard
All I heard about Linux is how this doesn't work, that have a workaround, and you will get used to it.
How about you idiots make things just works without needing any tinkering at all, and make a similar UI?
That way people would be more willing to use Linux than you shilling the piece of shit here.
It does work. But when it breaks (basically never if you stick to stable releases) you still have a way of fixing it rather than nuking your entire PC and reinstalling everything.
There is this misconception about fixing stuff with the command line. Yes, you might have to use it if things go bad, but the windows alternative is having to reinstall everything and maybe losing your data
after the whole Windows 11 is actual goverment approved AI spyware I'm seriously thinking about changing OS, but is there a single version of any other OS that can run any game without having to do the whole moronation regular linux users have to do? I don't care about "muh but you can customize everything" I just want pretty much a windows emulator
Just install Mint. Debian is probably okay too, but it'll make you seethe when you realize it has old packages and don't know how to fix it as a complete newbie.
If you didn't switch to linux when they baked ads into the OS 12 years ago with 8 you will never switch to linux. I don't know why you're even asking. You're just gonna accept copilot cuckoldry and move on with your life.
Just install Mint. Debian is probably okay too, but it'll make you seethe when you realize it has old packages and don't know how to fix it as a complete newbie.
Probably go with mint then.
Maybe read a quick guide on installing Wine.
Why can't Linux gays just make "it's literally Windows down to the UI, shortcuts and such and does everything for you so you don't have to learn about things and has Wine/Proton pre-installed to make running your exe's take 0 tinkering"?
They'd get a shit ton more people using the OS and said people might actually learn something about the OS
money >i thought this shit was supposed to be "free as in freedom"
The phrase "free as in freedom" specifically refers to the other definition of "free" i.e. the one that isn't about monetary cost.
Perhaps you meant "free as in free beer" or perhaps your brain just doesn't work.
I like Linux, I fricking loath its "community". I would put all of you in a mass grave. Tired of reading your blood vessel popping moronic nonsense. I will show people how to fix Windows as much as you can fix it before I tell anyone to use Linux just to spite you.
You are vantablack Black folk. You weren't into Linux or this site before 2016. You aren't smart because you followed a wiki page. Stop recommending people to use your distro as a way to "learn linux"; fricking read a book on using the linux command line and system admistration. No, 99% of games don't "just werk" on Linux, even excluding the hecking anticheat multiplayer "slop". I have seen these threads, you circlejerk over 5% increase of fps on Cyberpunk. I will implode your fricking heads with my mind. There is nothing wrong with using Windows or Linux but there is no need to be dishonest.
I mean mostly I've only had issues with arch, and that's because those morons take it as a point of pride to not have sane metapackages for shit, or a working installer.
Once you have your system set up though, it's not really a big deal.
I tried by partitioning and dual booting, briefly. Running it wasnt an issue, but most games didnt work except Rust.
If they really force us to switch to win 11 at some point maybe I'll switch back and try to use a virtual machine to do windows (no fricking clue how to do that and get it to even see my graphics card).
Reminder that Linux users have been saying that the upcoming Windows disaster will completely make users switch to Linux for 23 years in a row: >Shouldn't progress be making the OS less obtrusive? Using WinXP will be like driving a plaid friggin' minivan. And they wonder why people are switching to Linux!
https://www.metafilter.com/5850/Windows-XP-unveiled#50058
If you think you're not being spied on in Linux you're too stupid to breathe. Same with win7. You just proved you're using a web browser so they have you.
Linux users are mostly 15 year old kids that think hating popular thing is cool. That's why they are extremely ignorant on how privacy works, they just pretend they know. Never listen to them.
>not pictured the hundreds of hours of trying to make shit work on left
Based morons
3 weeks ago
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>not pictured the hundreds of hours of trying to make shit work on left
3 weeks ago
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Which part wouldn't work? I expect a detailed explanation.
3 weeks ago
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Me sticking it into your mom's ass instead of her c**t
3 weeks ago
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Ah so you have nothing of value to say.
3 weeks ago
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Cope and seethe jeet
3 weeks ago
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Yet you still respond. Does somebody want attention?
3 weeks ago
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I enjoy your seething jeet
3 weeks ago
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Seems to me you're the one quite upset. Especially since all you can do is make banal responses.
Try using your big boy words.
3 weeks ago
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Who hurt you?
3 weeks ago
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It's crazy how slow Windows is and how I've put up with it for years without questioning it. Even the mouse would lag or freeze. Their default photo app is dogshit too and takes a full minute to load or straight up freezes my computer. Which really sucks for people like me and my family who store a lot of family pics on computer. I remember switching to irfanview and pics would actually open instantly and even comes with a gallery viewer. Then I wondered what else could be better and eventually switched to linux.
Installing a new OS is definitely scary though and probably why people like myself stuck with Windows because it's pre-installed. Doesn't help that there's so many distros to choose from, some less user-friendly, and people try scaring you saying "you're gonna spend forever on bug fixes". I've had no problems since installing Linux Mint last year and it almost functions identical to Windows except much faster.
3 weeks ago
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One of the things I strongly remember was wondering why the windows image viewer couldn't play gifs by default but could handle video formats.
3 weeks ago
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Windows has historically handled animated GIFs like shit for some reason. Internet Explorer 6 would play them half speed on purpose and transparency just flat out didn't work. Working animated GIFs (and learning that IE6 didn't display them properly) was legitimately the big reason I first switched to Firefox when I was a kid.
The only people who use Linux are either schizochuds who think the government is spying on them (even though they are and they know they are lonely losers larping as le heckin hackerinos of their favorite 90's movie with mysoginistic undertones) and tranniehomosexuals who use it solely to circlejerk with other troony homosexuals and to watch cp.
NPC goycattle will stick with Microsoft until the end. There is literally nothing they could do that would make them leave. 5 years from now you'll see homosexuals on here calling anyone who doesn't want to pay by the hour for their OS a troony.
- Nvidia drivers suck on Linux
- Anticheat doesn't work on Linux
- Often have to wait months before a proton update that will fix that game you want to play
- Updates cause the same kind of problem that on Windows.
- Sometimes dependencies break for that custom program you installed, so you have to wait months before that troon on github decides to update his code
It's literally not worth it and privacy means shit because you dumbasses still use Youtube, Google search, Ganker, etc. every site will collect and sell your data without your permission. That's why Loonix users that claim that their OS is secure are full of shit and are probably extremely ignorant on how things work, so why would I listen to a contrarian 15 year old homosexual?
>- Nvidia drivers suck on Linux
They do work, though. Running bleeding edge arch with an nvidia card and I've had no issues with games. It's mostly wayland shit they don't like, and that's 100% avoidable at present.
Just different software. That's it. If you can understand a video game console running different games, then you can understand what a PC is doing, just with multiple pieces of software instead of one.
>desperately want to leave modern Windows due to its increasingly severe bloat and privacy issues >Mac is irrelevant for anyone outside of media production c**ts who think the state of media production tools is as Mac-lopsided as it was in the 2000s >Linux an annoying and overly segmented mess for most people in the middle of the bell-curve of computer literacy to jump into, and the Linux community collectively has an extraordinarily difficult time processing the extent of this because they're too deeply entrenched to understand/remember what it's like to come from Windows wanting to do more with their computers than bare-minimum web-browsing/Office usage and poke under the hood while not having the same intuition for what Linux expects that they do >trying to force drive Win7/8 is pure cope >I cannot, I WILL NOT, touch modern consoles
shit fricking sucks shit bros
macs are surprisingly good for coding. they're kind of like the personification of that bell curve meme where the 70 iq guy ends up saying the same thing a the 140 iq guy or whatever.
macs are also surprisingly kind of privacy nightmares, on par with windows i'd say. people don't seem to know this because i suppose apple's marketing is very good or something
>macs are also surprisingly kind of privacy nightmares, on par with windows i'd say. people don't seem to know this because i suppose apple's marketing is very good or something
Remember that time where you could not run third-party software on your Mac while being online because Apple servers shat the bed? >It turns out that in the current version of the macOS, the OS sends to Apple a hash (unique identifier) of each and every program you run, when you run it. Lots of people didn’t realize this, because it’s silent and invisible and it fails instantly and gracefully when you’re offline, but today the server got really slow and it didn’t hit the fail-fast code path, and everyone’s apps failed to open if they were connected to the internet.
https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
You had to go offline to run software not created by Apple.
>n-n-noooooo! it really is just apple and TOTALLY not microsoft or google! >EAT A BULLET!!!
lol
3 weeks ago
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Name 1 (one) instance of a Microsoft AND Google operating system not allowing you to open software you own because their servers shat the bed.
3 weeks ago
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next time read the actual blogpost and not just the bait headline
3 weeks ago
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>you could run them if you went offline
Shouldn't need to. Name those instances of something similar happening in Microsoft or Google's operating systems or frick off.
3 weeks ago
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>bugs shouldn't happen! name one instance microsoft or google had a similar bug!!!
i don't really spend time looking at the kind of shit/bugs apple/microsoft/google had historically
much better stuff to do bucko...
3 weeks ago
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>they are exactly the same... because they are okkkkk?? >I don't have proof for this, tho
Like I said, eat a bullet, Machomosexual.
3 weeks ago
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>YOU ARE A MAChomosexualTO! YOU JUST ARE M'KAY!!!
how did steve jobs manage to buckbroke every single online nerd? O.o
I'm not cappin... fr fr ong!
3 weeks ago
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EAB.
3 weeks ago
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ywnbaw
3 weeks ago
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Good.
3 weeks ago
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stop behaving as one.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nice projection, Black personhomosexual.
3 weeks ago
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Nice projection Trayvon! EAB.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sorry I prefer to use operating systems that do not have a history of blocking you from software you run from arbitrary reasons while you're connected at any given moment in their history.
3 weeks ago
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so you're a foss enjoyer? cool... I respect that Trayvon!
3 weeks ago
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No? Windows has never blocked running software just because Microsoft's servers were shitting the bed. Neither did Android. If you have any evidence to the contrary, post it. Otherwise, frick off.
3 weeks ago
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I've never heard of any OS that blocked running software either...
are you tripping?
3 weeks ago
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>I've never heard of any OS that blocked running software either...
crapple has every single application you run phone home. if that fails, the software won't run.
3 weeks ago
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He will tell you that it doesn't matter because Microsoft and Google do the same somehow, despite having absolutely no evidence of this.
3 weeks ago
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Apple did if you were connected to the Internet. Android, and Windows never did anything similar to this. If you have any evidence to the contrary, post it. Otherwise, frick off.
That's only if you install from the App store. Even Macgays don't do that.
3 weeks ago
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>Even Macgays don't do that.
Considering that it make it some news, and that people posted about it online, there are Macgays who evidently do it, homosexual.
3 weeks ago
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Normies do it. Normies barely even know how to use computers these days.
3 weeks ago
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>normies cannot be Macgays
3 weeks ago
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Wasn't it for every piece of software you've installed? Something about phoning home to Apple whenever you run something so that they can verify that it was properly signed or whatever
3 weeks ago
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No. Apple makes it look like you can't install software outside the app store, but you just need to hold Ctrl while opening a new app the first time, then it works fine forever.
I think there's some way to disable that from the terminal, but I haven't used MacOS for years.
>normies cannot be Macgays
Normies only own a laptop because they're in college. They use their phone for all their normal computing.
3 weeks ago
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>wasn't it? I though? something? whatever?
classic "always assume the worst, because frick it, i've already picked my team"
3 weeks ago
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I have several Linux machines and also a Macbook. I use both, moron
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's fricking disgusting
Apple's userbase is insufferable.
I've pretty much resigned myself to just thinking of Apple products as a form of technological and financial darwinism.
3 weeks ago
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>I've pretty much resigned myself to just thinking of Apple products as a form of technological and financial darwinism.
Considering that they're extremely competitive for performance per dollar for everything but vidya in each of their market segments, then I'd say that buying Apple is a survival of the fittest move, then? Apple's mouse sucks. The magic keyboard is an acquired taste. The trackpad is godly. The pencil is fricking expensive, but their prices for all their other stuff remains in line with the high-end Samsung, or Google products. The biggest issues with Apple have been their dismally awful approach to end-user repairability, their stingy prices for memory and storage, and their disgustingly cultish fanboys.
3 weeks ago
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little bro...
1 - micropenis OS and homosexualdroid OS "phones home" just as well as crapple OS
2 - that "software won't run because it failed to phone home" never happened, as explained by the actual blogpost, it's just a bait headline meant for clicks you fricking -50iq Black person...
3 weeks ago
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>that "software won't run because it failed to phone home" never happened >iJeet gaslighting
3 weeks ago
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>machomosexual! >ijeet!
how did steve jobs manage to perma stunlock all the tech nerds? O.o
3 weeks ago
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Apple's userbase is insufferable.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you're probably right...
I asked about steve jobs though...
3 weeks ago
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>1 - micropenis OS and homosexualdroid OS "phones home" just as well as crapple OS
and now shitdows 11 even takes and uploads screenshots of your screen too thanks to its ~~*recall*~~ >2 - that "software won't run because it failed to phone home" never happened
crapple has ~~*notarization*~~ (aka attestation) and its checks also contact OCSP servers (to check cert validity and shit). all that shit went down, hence applications failed to launch unless you were disconnected, which defers the checks.
you're tech-illiterate
3 weeks ago
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>unless you were disconnected
so apps (mac app store apps) worked fine, and all you had to do was to wait a few days for apple to fix the bug
I accept your concession, and no, I don't have a phd in software engineering so I very well am a "tech illiterate" you amazingly based lincuck mega nerd dicky enjoying gigachads *blows you a kiss* *slaps your face*
O.O
also;
ywnbaw
3 weeks ago
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>it works fine as long as the big megacorpo doesn't pull the plug on it
holy ijeets shitting up the bathroom batman
3 weeks ago
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>big megacorpo BAD! >but not the other 2 megacorpos!!! those are GOOD!
I laughed... (I did in fact not laugh)
3 weeks ago
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>>but not the other 2 megacorpos!!! those are GOOD!
calling out a company's shitty practices is not an endorsement of other shitty practices. frick off D&C shill
3 weeks ago
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so you agree with my original statement?
I wholeheartedly accept your concession...
3 weeks ago
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the frick are you talking about? you suck more dick as microjew, pajeetple, and chinkcent combined
Apple did if you were connected to the Internet. Android, and Windows never did anything similar to this. If you have any evidence to the contrary, post it. Otherwise, frick off.
too many annoying nuances, slay the spire wasnt running at 120 fps, despite setting it to 120fps and both my monitors being set to 120hz, I could tell it was not at 60fps.
Another issue I had yesterday was I tried to play G-Darius HD, launch game, runs fine, but if I fullscreened the game, it would lock up, had to kill it via console every time, can only play it windowed.
I'm someone that's fairly tech literate and know what they're doing, there's so much shit to deal with that doesn't 'just work'.
What's the endgame for Windows? Will it just take screenshots and data continuously and people won't give a shit? Linux side considering how Wayland and latest beta Nvidia driver are ready I think it would be the perfect time for Steam OS desktop.
Linux isn't generally know for having native video game support outside of a few outliers and the people who are real pushy/braggy about it come across as obnoxious and associate Linux with that annoying dipshit bragging about some gay OS only he has.
granted, yeah, Win11's AI bullshit really makes Linux appealing, no thanks to aforementioned compsci nerd. Doesn't really change that Linux is used in specific cases that most people do not do.
>Linux isn't generally know for having native video game support outside of a few outliers and the people who are real pushy/braggy about it
Support from valve via proton has made it a serious option worth considering in the gaming space. Windows is also going up in flames. We're at a crossroads, and Linux distros progressing represents freedom from the stagnant single OS MS monopoly on computing in general. Actual development is going on, things are changing. Don't fall prey to boomer mindsets and get left in the burning building that windows is when things change.
>Don't fall prey to boomer mindsets and get left in the burning building that windows is when things change.
Trust me, I don't like going into boomer mindsets, I just wish early Linux pushers would have learned to read the room and also maybe Linux should start actually advertising so more software will work on it.
This is why video games cannot ever be open-source software. It just leads to your game being cloned and having people profiting from your hard work without getting a penny in return.
Windows users are total midwits. I've given Linux to my boomer dad. It's all magic to him and the browsers are the same, so Windows vs Linux doesn't mean anything to him.
Power users understand that both OSes have their issues and fixing them takes roughly around the same amount of time.
It's really midwits whose knowledge comes mainly from youtube videos who think Linux is too difficult to use.
It's more of a illiteracy issue or lack of critical thinking. Microsoft is taking full advantage of lazy uneducated masses for monetary gain. Okay, and for spying purposes too. Both parties don't care so don't start complaining to me.
no I don't. that is my only comment about linux and it's brought about by the numerous "leave windows, use linux" conversion threads I've seen over the years.
i use linux on basically all my machines i have noticed this as well
i think for the average guy, even just installing a new os can be a huge leap, and a lot of linux users don't understand or remember that
also, linux is definitely less polished overall than macos/windows, even though it is still surprsingly polished considering it's all free... and so the user experience is also less polished. i dunno, i do think linux is the correct choice these days, but i can understand that people just want their shit to work and be really easy to use, which is why windows and macos won't ever go away no matter how dystopian they get
It seems more like a "getting fed up that people who set their own hair on fire are running around screaming that they don't know why their hair is on fire" reaction. Then they pull out a flowchart describing how to not set your own hair on fire in the vain hope they won't have to keep hearing about it, that grows more forceful the more times it has to be explained.
The M4 in the iPad has a geekbench 6 single thread score of 3800. That's higher than any other consumer CPU. If Apple ever allows Proton, or eGPUs, it's fricking over for Windows. Between that and Linux becoming idiot-proof, along with DeckOS/HoloISO, there's no reason to stay on that pajeet-coded mess of an OS.
Now nVidia needs to get into serious ARM desktop/minipc hardware and allow for a community-based approach to it's drivers and Windows is forever fricked.
Right, but what's being actually gained from Apple devices HAVING this technology? It's like if an inventor finally cracked perpetual motion but he purposely limited it to only powering stupid kitchen gadgets like a Juicero.
>It's like if an inventor finally cracked perpetual motion but he purposely limited it to only powering stupid kitchen gadgets like a Juicero.
This scenario reminds me of this short film:
Nobody is “afraid.” They just already know that Linux is worthless garbage. If I’m going to bother dumping Windows, I’d rather get a fricking Mac than install your favorite distro.
the benefits of linux: >DOOOOD I LIKE TYPED A COMMAND LINE I TYPED A GIT AND STUFF IS INSTALLING WHOAAAAAA IM A SUPER HACKER
the cons of linux: >buggy as frick >no software support >no fricking standards >nogaems
>nogaems
Considering we're now at the point you can preorder games on steam and be confident they'll work via proton on your deck/linux desktop you're just talking out of your ass. Also every other point you made is a skill issue.
The package installer is a benefit though, without a hint of irony. If it's in your default repositories you can just get it, no need to dig through an online store or a third party website. It's faster and easier and just better. Although you can use something like Chocolatey in Windows too, if you're a nerd.
it has other benefits as well
- installing from a known trustworthy source
- small speed improvements
- small space improvements
- ease of uninstalling software
- centralized update point
>- installing from a known trustworthy source
same on windows if you aren't braindead >- small speed improvements >- small space improvements
[citation needed[ >- ease of uninstalling software
same on windows if you aren't braindead >- centralized update point
same on windows if you aren't braindead
>[citation needed[
on debian distros, for example, the package dependencies are native and linked to the package. it's sort of like dlls in windows, but if your exes also all used the same packages as each other instead of each having their own packages combined into the exe itself. like i said, these are small benefits, and sometimes they do have downsides, but the fact is that being able to use the same native package for all software that needs it does end up saving space
3 weeks ago
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yeah like 2kb LMFAO
literally doesnt matter since installer packages are scrapped as soon as theyre done >MUH SPACE DURING INSTALL!!!
poornig, mulit TB drives are dirt cheap
3 weeks ago
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as i said, it is only a small benefit
what part of my post was incorrect or diverted from what i originally said?
you also don't have to tell me about space, i have a debian home NAS with 3 14 terabyte drives in a raidz1 configuration (~28 terabytes of storage) for my media
3 weeks ago
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if it so negligible that it doesn't exist for the end-users purpose, then it's less than small
3 weeks ago
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Don't ever think that you are 100% on linux. There has been instances where malicious code was added to official repositories. It's not very common, but it does happen from time to time.
Linux users also like to compile random github projects without reading the code because they often believe that open source = safe.
only the first link has to do with linux. the other two are packages installable by package managers (npm and pip, for your links)
yes, the xz situation is crazy, but it actually only affected a small portion of rolling release distros because it was discovered relatively quickly
3 weeks ago
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Just posting some random examples, there are obviously more. I'm just saying that linux isn't 100% secure or even private for that matter.
3 weeks ago
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>I'm just saying that linux isn't 100% secure
obviously
i never said it was 100% secure, just that the security of installed packages is higher than on windows
>or even private for that matter
most software on linux has no telemetry of any kind
3 weeks ago
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100% security doesn't exist. No computer is entirely safe unless every bit of software is personally coded and written by the end user, Any using Linux understands that any system can be attacked.
I still remember that time some Troonix user made a fake Windows 11 screenshot where it says it detected a pirate copy of I think it was Don't Look Up.
git is riduclously simple
git is like saying get in a weird accent
you tell linux to get something at an address and it gets it
but instead of clicking a link in your browser on windows, you do it in le command line in linux because you're a le epic hacker
git at its core is a versioning system that allows you to easily share code with other people (throughsites like github). it is not perfect, but it's incredibly useful. i'd say once you get the hang of it, doing the most important git related activities (pulling, pushing, committing, etc) is really all you need to understand
it's also insane to me that linus made git in addition to the linux kernel. dudes like dennis ritche and stallman and whoever else get a lot of credit for what they've done for the world, but in my opinion linus' contributions to the human race may be the greatest a singular human man has ever contributed to the world
I'm messing around with Linux on a virtual machine but I'm thinking later installing it in one of my hard drive I rarely use so I can launch it from there.
Maybe I'm stupid and forgetting something, but can't people just do that and switch back between operating systems if they fear fully changing to one?
Need to game/werk something, restart and go back to Windows?
I've never dual booted, so I can't help with in that regard. However, make sure you have at least one (preferrably multiple) backup of your important shit before you mess around with partitioning your drives.
You can dual boot. Install linux and its bootloader on a different drive. Boot to that drive. The bootloader will launch and allow you to select either your linux install on the same drive, or the windows install on another.
You will soon realize that dual booting is stupid because you can just do everything on Windows.
Feel like playing a game while watching a video? Well too bad, you have to close everything and reboot, and if you haven't done that in a while, you will get some updates.
Finished gaming and want to go back to normal browsing? Gotta reboot, but since you're just browsing, why even bother?
>just fix grub everytime windwiener updates
lol
LMAO
i'm going to use windows why the frick would i not use the os that does literally everything better? >le hecking glowerinos
don't care
if you aren't working in the industry where linux is required or an actual hacker only insufferable posers talk about and try to promote linux especially here of all places. they already made linux for the average joe its called apple, which market forces compelled to be trash because of it's target audience.
>try to promote linux especially here of all places.
I tell people how to get the best results for Linux gaming on Ganker because it both >actually works
and >frees you from microsofts bullshit
Just because you're moronic doesn't mean everyone is, the dialogue and presence of the threads here shows there's more than enough interest. Sour grapes like you just make this shit more funny.
Brehs I'm THIS close to switching to Linux. Windows 11 is only remotely usable with a third-party program that unfricks the taskbar and the explorer. Tablets and smartphones dictating desktop UIs were a mistake
I have some experience with Linux because I had a VM with Ubuntu and I use the Linux subsystem for work. Everyone talks about Steam and Proton, but how is the emulator scene on Linux?
>how is the emulator scene on Linux?
to my knowledge every emulator ever supports linux lmao. Check out what something like emudeck can do for the Steam Deck if you want an idea. It should all just werk.
you will care when they require a TPM and flip the signature enforcement and ~~*remote attestation*~~ switches (i.e. no pirated software, legit windows, only software from approved storefronts, no mods or tweaks, no unapproved hardware, etc.).
remember windows RT on ARM devices which didn't let you install anything unless you jailbroke it? that's their endgame.
Wow, this thread is long and stupid as frick. Anyway, the reason why there are so many anti-Linux shills who want to keep you away from a free operating system is because the big tech companies are planning to turn your computer into a locked-down console that only does what its master tells it to.
Riot Games, subsidiary of Tencent, is at the forefront of this push to "secure" your computer from yourself and end the PC as a open platform. The problem they have with Linux is that the system is too customizable (does what the user tells it to). Say goodbye to modding, community servers, uncensored chat, "insecure" old games and everything else that makes the PC a superior platform over a subsidized $500 console. Tim Sweeney has made similar statements regarding Fortnite support, he refuses to put the game on Linux because it's too open.
They're not talking about your security. They don't care if Vanguard opens a million backdoors into ring 0. They're protecting the game FROM you. It's corporate doublespeak. You can't cheat or mod unapproved content into the game (both of these actions are just as harmful from Riot's perspective).
>They're not talking about your security. >They're protecting the game FROM you. It's corporate doublespeak
this.
they also don't want the goyim modding their games because then they'll be able to unlock or even add virtual clothes to the game without paying money
>OY VEY GOY YOU MUST USE ONLY OUR SPECIALLY BLESSED SOFTWARE CONFIGURATION BECAUSE WE CAN'T CODE FOR SHIT SO WE RELY ON SHITTY WHITELISTS INSTEAD OF REAL SECURITY
yet more proof that anti-cheats are a scam.
>company X does thing I don't want >I no longer buy that product >BUT! BUT! CHINA! TENCENT! EPIC GAMES! APPLE! INDIA! MICROSOFT! RUSSIA! EUROPEAN UNION!
not subscribing to your blog
Trying to degenerate PC gaming down to the locked down console experience is an extremely moronic and doomed plan too, because it removes the entire point of PC gaming. If ol Timmy wasn't such a piece of work he'd just release his shit on consoles and call it done, but he's greedy and wants ALL of the market share and all opposition broken down.
>Trying to degenerate PC gaming down to the locked down console experience is an extremely moronic and doomed plan too
I wouldn't be so sure about that. A coordinated push from Microsoft and a few big game companies would be enough to push most casual players over the edge. All you have to do is give them a free skin and show some manipulated statistics about how it "improves the game experience" for the majority to accept it. The technical pieces are already in place, Windows 11 "requires" TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot which is all you need for unbreakable remote attestation (like Android/iOS). Keep old games working for a few years and once they break those it's too late for anyone to go back.
Okay so now PC gaming is xbox, and devs who want to release actual PC games just do so on linux. Frankly they should accelerate this so it crashes and burns even faster.
I tried openSUSE last year and to be honest, it was an absolute nightmare for various reasons. I still need to use Windows for work related things. I am on Windows 10 LTSC until the support ends for the foreseeable future. I do have a Steam Deck for gaming, so Linux is still viable for that, but obviously, a Steam Deck isn’t going to be running high intensity games very well unless you stream it from desktop. I don’t really know what to do since I really don’t want to update to Windows 11. Microsoft really fricked it up
There are more user friendly Linux options than suse, to be honest. Ubuntu, Mint, Pop_os, Fedora, Debian are all pretty much "works out of the box" distros
Windows 11 lowers the volume sometimes for no particular reason. It drives me nuts.
Still, I don't want to be a Linux user. I just don't want to be one of you gays. you're obnoxious like a bunch of delusional trannies.
You do realize you can use linux without being al linux gay right? You wouldn't continue eating shit just because the people not eating shit are annoying.
>Still, I don't want to be a Linux user. I just don't want to be one of you gays. you're obnoxious like a bunch of delusional trannies.
Filtered. Switch for your own practical benefit instead of some homosexual percieved social judgement of a userbase. Queerest and least based mindset i've seen all week on Ganker
Yeah, see that's the thing. I don't trust people who unironically use the word "queer" instead of homosexual. are you posting from your work wifi, you Black person?
>Yeah, see that's the thing. I don't trust people who unironically use the word "queer" instead of homosexual. are you posting from your work wifi, you Black person?
NO Black person I'M NOT POSTING FROM MY WORK WIFI, YOU ARE YOU MICROSHIT SHILL.
How else would you describe and OS that pushes ads on your homes screen. Or requires camera so they can record you. Or wants to AI screen record everything including your bank details but turns off when you use Netflix.
The post wasn't being sarcastic. The worse part is that it's going to get worse. Because that's how mircosoft works. It's optional now it'll be mandatory later. It's all local, it'll phone home later. Microsoft slips this shit in and then makes it's worse on the next windows version. I don't understand how anyone can see that and not think Microsoft is feeding them shit.
>Still, I don't want to be a Linux user. I just don't want to be one of you gays. you're obnoxious like a bunch of delusional trannies.
Filtered. Switch for your own practical benefit instead of some homosexual percieved social judgement of a userbase. Queerest and least based mindset i've seen all week on Ganker
The heart of the truth is normies will always use what they know. Windows and Apple pay big money and offer huge discounts to schools so they are teaching kids how to use their OS and most people are never going to go out of their way to use or learn anything different. This isn't me shitting on linux or microsoft. It's just hard fact.
Nice cope, if this was true, then nobody would ever change browsers, or apps on their phones, etc.
That's like saying that everyone uses Steam instead Epic because Steam is what everyone normally uses and recommends and Epic is this amazing secret program that is miles better than Steam and only smart people use.
bro changing your browser and changing operating system are two very different things. If anyone here is coping its you. I use both windows and linux for work and like them both quite a bit but if think there is going to be some linux renaissance where everyone jumps over then you must be moronic.
The actual hard truth is that people will instantly switch to any kind of service that is beneficial for them, it doesn't matter how hard it is to learn that tool, they will ditch the old thing for the new thing as long as that new thing is better.
no, everyone uses steam because they already have their sunk cost fallacies sunk into their pdf file libraries filled with games
why they pathetically use the "muh I don't want to have a second shortcut to a second game launcher on muh desktop" argument I dunno...
The heart of the truth is that having a userbase is what makes your UI/OS user friendly. Nobody but hardcore linuxgays use Linux, so Linux's interface and user operability remains friendly for those only on the spectrum.
Nice cope, if this was true, then nobody would ever change browsers, or apps on their phones, etc.
That's like saying that everyone uses Steam instead Epic because Steam is what everyone normally uses and recommends and Epic is this amazing secret program that is miles better than Steam and only smart people use.
Check out how many news are there of companies trying to changing something in the work enviroment and employees just complaining that they have to learn the new thing that is going to replace the old thing
Most people will complain that they have to learn something new, to learn new stuff one has to stress its mind even if a little. The very first post of this thread is someone saying they have to spend 4 years in college to learn how to use which is bullshit through and through
>using Dan for something like this
He's too schizophrenic for computers. The show itself acknowledges this. When he does finally start to use them he quickly becomes enraged by the bullshit and rampages.
If he were to use any OS consistently it would be Linux but only after getting revenge on most of the distro devs for making it too complicated or someshit and then getting talked down - as occasionally happens.
So regarding the new thing that microsoft is trying to push, are they really going to be recording your screen 24/7? And if so, would my microsoft account potentially be at risk for looking at things that microsoft does not like...?
Didn't read this gay thread, but I reached out to some pajeet student license-reselling website and got my OS and lifetime 365 subscription for like 300 rupees / 6 USD online. Microsoft isn't fricking me, I'm fricking microsoft.
t. totally ranjeet surkesh studying stochastic modelling in IIT Madras
it's a piece of shit
windows just werks, and the fact that it's more popular than linux despite microsoft doing their best to make it unusable should tell you all you need to know about linux
I really want to but it seems God has other plans. I can't get the usb stick to even boot let alone get to set up arch. I can't turn off secure boot from the bios so I'm having to install it from an Ubuntu live session. very annoying
>downloaded and installed mint a few months ago >literally just werks
i spent god knows how long anguishing over having to learn a new OS and then i just went and fricking did it and i couldnt be more happy that i did. outside of some very minor things that were mostly just me setting up the computer to how i wanted it, there have been pretty much no issues that ive seen yet. Its unreal how snappy and responsive it feels in comparison to W10.
right now im addicted to runescape but, ive been playing ps1/snes roms on retroarch without a problem. Linux has issues with EAC, so no fortnite/valorant/etc but, i dont play those in the first place so its not a concern to me. Aside from that, i opened up steam and just piddled around with a few games at random and didnt seem to have anything to worry about. But, i cant really answer you there. Ultrakill was the only one i specifically remember opening.
Alright cool, and i don't play much games either except for retro shit and minecraft. I've been wanting to get into stalker recently and since that's on steam I don't think there'll be much of a problem with it either; I also use DOSbox for really old shit too.
A lot of the free alternative software available on linux fricking sucks compared to what's available on windows or macOS, because linux users are mostly poor teenagers and thirld-worlders so companies have no incentive to port their shit there. Muh "games mostly work on it" isn't enough to make people switch, there's still too many compromises
>A lot of the free alternative software available on linux fricking sucks compared to what's available on windows or macOS,
As someone who switched, it actually tends to be way fricking better, but you're a shill posting bullet point insults so I don't expect you to know jack shit about the real experience of what you're posting about.
I am genuinely considering eventually switching to a Linux distro, since most of the games I play work on Linux anyway and I really do not want to use Windows 11 for a PC.
Gaming is really the main reason why I am not running linux right now.
ARM being the future isn't important. What matters is how ARM will be shilled well before it's properly functional. Tons of old software is going to be rendered usable because consumers of being rushed into new thing,
i think the biggest problem with linux is that the "linux is hard" meme has outreached what it actually is and 99% of what people complain about is people messing with their computers way more than the average person would and just the unfamiliarity of things at the start. Like. Everyone will google a problem and start messing around with config files and pasting weird dlls from 15 year old russian forum posts not knowing what theyre doing but because its in windows, theres a level of familiarity even if what youre doing is so out of your scope of knowledge of whats happening, you still feel comfortable doing it. Take that away and all of a sudden everyone freaks out. me included until i realized, oh. This isnt that bad. Some simple things are a little obtuse to figure out but. just like with windows. Youre usually just a search away from your answer.
It's not. Microsoft world-wide has drops to sub 70% and Linux hits as high 15-20% in some places. Microsoft droping to sub 50% in 20-30 years is a realistic possibility,
>almost every retail computer is sold with the newest windows installed >linux being something that you have to go out of your way to install
a large amount of computer users use it as a facebook and youtube machine. if this were the other way around, i would sincerely doubt that people would be tripping over themselves to try and install windows with the sheer amount of fricking aids that resides in the OS.
im just using you as a backboard to strengthen my own verbalization of arguments. Either way. Very strange behavior xir. consider what posting looks like this looks to someone on the outside.
We're on Ganker bud, Nobody cares about shilling linux to normies, even though it is unironically better for the type of shit they do, Making it a viable option for PC gamers (already niche) can improve things a lot.
It's funny that OSX is catching up until I remembered that Mactoddlers are the primary demographics of Musicians, Artists, Creative types.
basically Windows shot its monopoly in the head when it started trying to force always-online forced-updates version switching bullshit because the people who need to sit down in front of a computer for hours drawing furry porn and making 8-bit soundtracks for indie games can't suddenly have their work deleted when it decides to auto-update restart with no override three hours into their work like what happens consistently on Windows, now.
I wish gamers weren't so fricking spineless, and t hey would put their foot down over it, too. But OSX has even less games than Linux at this point.
>sign over my soul and $120 and play games immediately
>have to spend 4 years in college to learn an OS and even then only get to play some games
You have to be some drooling moron not to be able to use modern day linux
kek the only true morons are the people that fall for obvious b8. you can just tell these are brain degrading boomers and their brain stopped being able to understand deduction reasoning
If I have to take time to “learn” some off brand OS after decades of PC usage it’s probably not worth it. I like Windows 10 anyway, I don’t care what people say about it.
It takes a week of half assed trial and error, and googling some shit to reach the same proficiency in Linux as you would in Windows. If your ADHD ass can't manage that then don't forget your lifevest when you shower ig
>to reach the same proficiency in Linux as you would in Windows
Well considering you don't know shit about Windows either, you are probably right.
>I like Windows 10 anyway
Aww! Look at the little windows 10 baby duck. Upgrade already homosexual!
if you need college to use linux you might just be one of the "special kids"
not this Anon but when i went to university i had to take a computer class learning how to use LaTex and a versio
of Linux that was completely cmd operated
Are you an MIT Black person?
No i studied physics at the university of Stuttgart some years ago but quit because of Higher Mathematics
homie just download wine
>$120
>he actually bought windows
lol
lmao
It is literally free. You dont even need to pirate it.
i'd rather move to freebsd than to move to homosexualnux OS, you degen nerds are the most insufferable bunch of weirdos online
If you want games, you should move to OpenBSD, just because they try really, really hard to have games and, for the most part, they've succeeded.
>Install Lutris
>Windows version of games now run better than their linux ports
You have to be a literal fricking moron at this point to struggle with linux.
Fellas will become a professional digital artist, video editor, but LITERALLY ONLY KNOW HOW TO USE SPECIFICALLY ADOBE, just not to use linux.
You're underselling just how fricking atrocious every attempt to make an alternative to Adobe products has been.
You're overselling how good Adobe "Here's what's totally $69000000 of software on a $60 a month subscription please don't use alternatives please please please!" software is.
Inkscape is unusable trash. Adobe gets away with charging what they do because the alternatives are so bad, even being free doesn't make them worth it.
>Implying individuals pay for adobe
My company pays for my subscription. And everyone who freelances simply pirates. There's practically no reason why someone who actually wants to get shit done would pass up good, proven software with tons of resources and documentation for muh free and open source.
>It's sooooo good I get it for "free" from my company
Oh tell me more anon.
My point is the asking price is not really a factor because nobody who works for a company is expected to pay their own CC and individuals who do freelance work can pirate it in 2 seconds of googling. Software created by a multi billion dollar company that actually has proper direction and user experience resources is going to shit all over free software made by a few people who know how to code and not much else almost every time.
are you moronic
shit like that is standard business practice
The enterprise pricing model and its consequences have been a disaster for professional software.
Of course a company that will treat even tangible objects that they own as subscriptions will have no issues treating software as a subscription, and the potential profit lost from moving a baby duck employee who loves the software he got a student license for to better software cancels out the money saved from not using something that's highly expensive and exploitative.
And it shouldn't be. It has killed software.
>try gimp
>paste image
>it won't let me move it
>maybe I have to hold shift or ctrl to move it?
>nope
>ok so MOVE tool won't move it but lasso will
>ok I'm done moving it let me do something else
>it's stuck in this weird mode where the image is selected but won't let me do anything
>try hitting enter
>nothing
>try hitting a bunch of other keys, select all, deselect
>nothing
I just got so pissed that I just quit and use kolour-paint. I don't know why so many art programs suck. Only these mspaint clones work. I just want something simple but with transparency. I remember being similarly pissed at inkscape as well. They always refuse to follow conventional standards and shortcuts. Like they'll use ctrl+c/v for something other than cut/paste.
happen to try krita? not saying it is great, but is a level above the turd known as GIMP
>but is a level above the turd known as GIMP
It can't be "a level above" because they serve different purposes.
Krita is for drawing.
GIMP is for image manipulation.
GIMP is very powerful but also very obtuse and unintuitive.
You can either learn it or give up learning it and just google every little thing you do in it - that'll cover 95% use cases for it.
I like krita. Support for my screen tablet is actually better on Arch with OpenTabletDriver than it was on windows. Pleasantly surprised me when I made the switch from win LTSC to arch.
I started on gimp. When I moved to Photoshop it was like "whoa, this program actually does everything I tell it to".
Photoshop has its flaws. It's bloated and sometimes needlessly slow. But it has so much more than Gimp, and once you get used to the controls it actually works properly
Also, I'm not shilling because I have a pirated copy lol
Adobe software is the best one and industry standard.
It sucks because Adobe is a dogshit company, but that's just how it is.
I mean, I mostly use Clip Studio Paint and the Linux support for that is pretty shit too.
There was a thing I saw a while ago about how zoomers don't understand folders on a computer
No chance they could even follow a tutorial to install Linux
Do you even need a tutorial to install Linux? I think most distros by now have installers that are no more complicated to follow along than a Windows program installer.
Correct. Installing Linux Mint was easier for me than installing Windows. In fact, almost everything about Mint has been easier than Windows.
I still use Win10 on my desktop for some specific games and programs, but it's pirated (as I have been doing since Windows 7) with all telemetry disabled, so Microsoft can still get fricked.
zoomers are so fricking helplessly moronic, they won't even know to press the F12 key to illicit the boot device selection menu. never mind them even using a computer with a dignifiable storage drive, they're being handed a world where their interest in technology has no reason go beyond a flagship iphone and laptops that have soldered RAM and 24/7 screen-recording surveillance by the manufacturer "for their safety"
i find it hilarious that Microsoft can frick you in the ass tell you its fricking you in the ass and you wont do anything but take it like a little b***h
do people not realize that with adoption will come support?
It makes way more sense when you realize virtually nobody actually makes a decision when it comes to their operating system.
This being most of Microsoft's market strategy.
Yes, and that is also the core now of Valve's strategy selling Steam Deck.
It is also the danger to PC gaming as we know it, because if Microsoft makes their OEMs switch to ARM hardware as Microsoft themselves have indicated, that could very quickly translate into PC gaming becoming even more niche.
The problem with that idea is that Linux isn't standardized.
There are too many versions of Linux for adoption to be that simple.
The peripheral stuff surrounding gaming doesn't necessarily support Linux, like certain stupid software for specific hardware.
Even if the game runs, the social BS might not.
I mean, I guess steam sort of does half heartedly.
I only play single player games so that doesn't affect me but I get why it scares the normies.
This is really the MVP post ITT.
Much like web browsers, most people just use what their shit comes with.
Furthermore, the concept of speaking with your wallet has become a thing of the past it seems.
It's why your average npc buys 9001 subscription services to watch TV, they just accept it as the norm.
>Much like web browsers, most people just use what their shit comes with.
Isnt that completely false though?
Everyone uses edge to install chrome and then uses that
>with adoption will come support?
Don't most computers in the world use linux?
Servers are not really desktops
Server-side Linux is well supported
Desktop side it's missing support
>i find it hilarious that Microsoft can frick you in the ass tell you its fricking you in the ass and you wont do anything but take it like a little b***h
Not an argument, Linuxgays are like this too
>Rust kernel support
>another tool rewritten by systemd
>forced wayland before it was stable
>newer kernels often break systems, still pushed
Same incompetency, just under different names
>forced wayland before it was stable
How? You can still use X11. There are variants that still default to X11.
>do people not realize that with adoption will come support?
so what you're saying is
>just eat shit for an indeterminate amount of time and hopefully one day it won't be so fricked if enough people also decide to eat shit!
I don't want an operating system where I'm constantly begging for ports for basic applications and games on forums for most of my time instead of actually using them, and I don't want an operating system that requires me to type in command line prompts for rudimentary things that should just be included in a GUI
I challenge you to name the basic applications and games you'd be "begging for ports" for on forums if you switched.
NTA but being a linux user, I can think of three niche games that no one gives a shit about that I play regularly that just don't work
>Byond
I love Space Station 13 but it requires archaic IE8-9 binaries that Wine has not figured out how to include. You can launch it but never play anything with it.
>DCS World
I'm a sim boomer
>Any FPS with lots of kernel-level spying like Apex
To be fair I don't actually want to play this shit, it's just for the hypothetical
>requires archaic IE8-9 binaries that Wine has not figured out how to include
I've seen at least one other game with this problem, but it's just the launcher for it that fails as a result. A shitty issue that should probably be easy to fix yet demand for it is so low nobody has bothered.
You use windows. You are used to eating shit. Besides wine is at the point where you can basically anything you want. 9 times out of 10. And it's still getting worked on and improving.
linux gaslighters are cringe and pretend they are not the minority in the wrong.
I'm still using Windows 7. All the games I like playing still work on it. I don't care about new games because they are not games for me anyway. Sorry but I will simply not use Linux, ever.
This is also happening now with Windows 10 to 11. 11 is the devil and 10 was always good apparently and the timer on EOS for 10 is ticking down.
Its truly overblown about the spying business if you care so much about being spied on just turn off your internet.
Is that synthetic man in OPs pic?
I think his name is Sam
Its from Dan Vs.
/linux/i;op:only
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY VERSIONS OF LINUX? WHICH ONE DO I SPEND THE TIME TO LEARN?
Once you've learned to use one Linux disto 99% of that carries over to any other. Just pick a flavor of Ubuntu that comes with a desktop environment you like.
The secret is that most of them are just Debian or Arch
And the difference between those is whether they update frequently or not
There's not really that much of a difference.
They're literally just different flavors of the same shit. Just determine what you want in terms of
>stable/bleeding edge
>package manager
>default desktop environment
Shit like init system doesn't matter for beginners
Red Star, because it's made by best Korea and definitely doesn't have spyware on it
Install Gentoo to learn everything you need to know about Linux, then install a distro that actually works
Only Debian/Arch/Fedora matter. Due to the tendency of Linux softwares not having binary readily available, Arch would give you the least amount of headache due to AUR helper which skips all the manual steps for compiling shit.
Mint xfce
Just install mint and call it a day, they are all basically the same. The destop enviroment is more a personal taste thing, but everyone more or less agrees you can't go wrong with xfce. Gnome and KDE are nicer visually, but they have their own set of problems.
None.
Linux is a kernel. All distributions use the same Linux kernel.
yeah but why are there so many versions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_version_history
because, like all software, it's developed incrementally. ideally, newer versions fix problems or add features. for example, kernel version 2.1 might fix a compatibility issue with certain hardware that was present in version 2.0
I use PopOS since it works with my Nvidia graphics card out of the box.
Just use Tribble OS. It's based on a Debian fork but with most of the Linux stripped out and replaced with sideloaded distros. Or pepperjack with any compatable wrapper that's tied to Arch (just nothing older than v1.2.1). Zord, kelpdesk, and pengooner are all better options if you don't mind command line.
>not
https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
it's for da kidz so it should be easy!
frick you
This is a Temple OS board, heretic
This is a TempleOS world idiot. You want me to be giving Ganker users that kind of divine power? They don't deserve it.
they're all basically the same they just come with different pre-installed shit
cachyos
gentoogays get the rope
Because lots of shit from Windows doesn't work right/at all on Linux.
At the end of the day people care more about being able to use their PC the way they're used to than sticking it to microsoft or whatever.
they are LITERALLY telling you that your computer will actively record EVERYTHING you do now and that's not a good enough reason?
i never EVER want to hear anyone here whine about their "privacy" again
I never whined about my privacy.
Well if you want to be fricked in the ass by a corporation then by all means
I'm not interested personally
If you want privacy, unplug your ethernet.
No matter what distro or operating system you use, you're being watched.
Honestly, that's just frickin' grim.
Just reinforces how wrong everything has gone
and yet linux still does it in a less resource heavy way
Everyone who says this is a techlet. You're being watched, but how? There's a difference between "This client is making connections to some computer, located on some cloudflare server, transferring something." and "I am recording literally every mouse and keystroke for usage and there is no way for you to tell whether it is malicious or not"
If you can't make a decision between these two because you think they are "Le same" then you should just give me all your money right now before you get scammed by a tech support grift because all spying is "Le same" to you.
I'll just wipe away my browser history, simple
STILL not installing Linux.
*enters incognito mode*
hehe, nuthin personnel mr fbi man
>actually thinking incognito mode does anything
at best, it just doesn't show up on browser history
illiterate moment
Linux means something to some people which is why I refuse to use it.
windows just works
For me it's because I already know a large amount of keyboard shortcuts and OS fixes and other nuances that come from experience. Just don't feel like starting from scratch again.
I know I should always be learning, but staying proficient at windows and windows data programs is way more important to the career fields I am interested in.
>Why are gamers afraid of Linux
Because it's already annoying enough to troubleshoot games on Windows let alone on whatever Linux distro you end up using. Most people like to play video games as an escape not because they're tech heads. The average gamer is basically tech illiterate
I've been led to believe I must be more than a gamer to use Linux, and so far windows have worked well enough.
>be wincuck
>time for an hour long updoot out of the blue! Even though you disabled automatic updates!
mom cancel my meetings
I'm not defending Windows but I've literally never had this happen. Windows does update, but it waits until I'm shutting down to do so.
It's just low IQ chuds who are afraid of change.
just like how leftchuds were afraid of ai??
Leftists are the ones making AI. It's just the feminine artists who are butthurt. Masculine programmers, lawyers, engineers, etc. all use AI on a daily basis to do menial shit like finding information.
Too bad AI can't even find basic information correctly. Legit worse than using the I'm feeling lucky button on Google.
It does a good job finding info. You just need to ask it to give sources. It can't think for you, you still have to double check what it says, but most of the time it's good enough, especially when you already know what the answers should be, without knowing which is correct.
It's definitely not good enough if I have to verify and double check everything.
I tried using it for some basic stuff for a paper I was writing to try it out and was completely useless.
You have to verify and double check shit you find on Google too. You wouldn't blindly trust what some Reddit post says or read Wikipedia and not at least glance over the sources.
AI is just summarizing shit that you'd find through a search.
And that's just one function. You can use it to write simple bash scripts for you, and you just have to fix a few things to actually make it work. Hell, I told ChatGPT to make me an overtime calculator that automatically applies overtime over 40 hours. It did it and I didn't have to modify anything.
So this absolutely amazing tool can't even handle finding basic academic information and I am supposed to verify it all but it's totes mcgoats awesome?
It can find basic academic information though, what are you even talking about?
Quit seething troony, you're not going to be replaced by AI.
And yes you should be verifying shit you read online.
That's not an overreaction, Debian LITERALLY has packages that are 5+ years out of date.
Their version of restic is from 2020 for example and that's just one I've personally ran into in the past few months.
What? Are we looking at he same restic?
https://github.com/restic/restic/releases/tag/v0.14.0
>restic 0.14.0
>Aug 25, 2022
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/restic
>restic (0.14.0)
So it's a little less than two years old. Trixie's verison of restic is up to date with upstream. This is about on par with what I said in my original post, and much less than the "5+ years out of date" you mention.
Maybe it was longer than I thought. Good to see Debian being less moronic then.
Honestly a weird thing to rely on.
A text search that intentionally fricks up the results just enough to not be a legal landmine.
I get basically every search engine is completely non-functional at this point, but still.
The alternatives are Google, Bing, etc. which all just give you "promoted" content followed by SEO slop that is AI generated anyway.
True, we probably need like, a new from the ground up search index actually curated by people.
I can't imagine there's that many real sites on the internet to catalog.
There's private search engines that you have to pay for in exchange for them filtering out SEO/AI slop and not selling your data.
If you don't pay for something then you're the customer. Even on Ganker that is true.
Ho ho ho you silly, you made a mistake in your post.
Not him.
>If you don't pay for something then you're the product* *which is how the phrase goes.
This is a bullshit line because open-source software exists, and even when you
>buy a car
>they harvest your data to sell it to advertisers
>you have to pay to have access to the data they harvest from you
Open source software is funded by multi-billion dollar corporations who need super-comptuers and cloud computing.
Obvious typo, troon. Deal with it.
>Open source software is funded by multi-billion dollar corporations who need super-comptuers and cloud computing.
Not all of it. Very infamously, Apache Log4j 2 was funded by just 1 (one) Apache employee.
Well yeah, it's not always the company pouring money into it, but they are paying the devs to do "pet projects" on company time.
Ah, Apache Foundation, that famous multi-billion dollar company.
They're a multi-million dollar non-profit. Still a corporation, just smaller.
>moving the goalposts
LMAO. Equating multi-billion to multi-million is braindead.
>t. Bernie Sanders
Hey it could be the gravel institute, it doesn't necessarily have to be bernie.
Bernie's just my favorite to point to because he cartoonishly shifted his hatred of the rich from millionaires to just billionaires the instant he became a multimillionaire himself. Also trying to deny that him owning four houses is bougie as frick.
Oh, no I'm aware of him fleecing people.
The gravel institute is a personal funny case, because in their silly demoralization nonsense about the American Dream being dead, they had to switch from millionaire to billionaire because technically, you're actually more likely to have a net worth in the millions than end up homeless in the US.
Especially if you control for drug usage.
Apache is a multi-million dollar non-profit that makes its money from mutli-billion dollar corporations. How is that moving the goalposts?
>the proletariats who make a living from working for gayMAN are exactly the same as gayMAN
They make their money from corporations. Same for the Linux Foundation. That's why open source software doesn't spy on you and sell your data, it's because they sell the software to giant corporations.
Explain emulators, then.
Aren't they on life support from IBM?
>multimillion
A boomer who owns 2 houses
>multibillion
A tycoon who owns a thousand boomers
>then you're the customer
It's "you're the product" you dumb frick.
You are always the customer if you are using a service. Any service. That's what being a customer is.
>le pc master race
>is afraid of leaving his baby's first OS
>>is afraid of leaving his baby's first OS
wait hold on I thought Linux "just werks" and is "easy as can be".
Debian for the most stable and most baseline experience.
Arch, if you want to pretend you like tinker with shit.
Gentoo if you actually like tinker with shit.
DE literally doesn't matter.
Using something "stable" or "bleeding edge" barely means anything for specialized libraries and software - you'll either be curling/wgetting the install script manually or using separate repos.
I run Debian in WSL.
Setting up YubiKey passthrough was an experience but otherwise it's pretty hands-off.
No DE, though.
>Debian for the most stable and most baseline experience.
lol no. Maybe if you're trying to run a server OS, but even then Debian is autistic and broken, using packages that are half a decade or more out of date because "stability".
If you plan to play video games on your computer then Debian is probably one of the worst options you can pick. You're unironically better with Kubuntu at that point.
>using packages that are half a decade or more out of date because "stability".
Literally doesn't matter.
If you need something that's not on the official repos you just add the repos where it's available.
As a matter of fact, the vast, vast majority of outdated packages on Debian are outdated because they work just fine and there is no particular need to keep EVERYTHING up to date.
It's better to know what and why are you updating than otherwise.
And "figuring out" what is it you are missing won't be a problem because Debian is unparalleled in terms of the information available online (mostly due to Ubuntu being the most mainstream distro there is).
Until you as a new user don't understand that you can't run/install a program because the library you have installed is literally 7 years out of date.
Good luck compiling obscure shit from source on Debian as well, then again with flatpaks and stuff that's not as much of an issue these days.
>Until you as a new user don't understand that you can't run/install a program because the library you have installed is literally 7 years out of date.
Doesn't really happen and when it does the solution is a single Google search away.
>Good luck compiling obscure shit from source on Debian as well
Literally not an issue.
Truly "obscure shit" is not required for anything mainstream to function.
When it is, the necessary dependencies will either be listed in the readme on the repo or, alternatively, will be a single Google search away because it's Debian we are talking about.
EVERYTHING accounts for Debian one way or another. You'd be moronic not to.
Debian does have outdated packages, yes, but "literally 7 years out of date" is an impressive overreaction. Each Debian version lasts roughly 2 years, so for the majority of packages, ~2 years is about the max age you will see. Can this bite you in the ass? Yes. I found a small bug in Debian 12's version of ffmpeg that was fixed a few minor versions after it, and I'll have to either wait until the next version of Debian or update to the rolling `testing` version, aka Trixie. But other than that, Debian has been the most stable thing I've ever encountered. And I mean "doesn't crash or frick up in some way" stable, in this case.
I chose it because I wanted a community built and managed distro, but Arch is too autistic. Debian (and perhaps Debian testing, if you need newer packages that can't be backported), was a reasonable middle ground between community managed and just werks for me.
The outdated packages in debian won't matter for most general use desktop purposes, but for gaming stability and performance Arch is the best bet just because of the defacto support from steamOS literally just being arch lmao.
For sure. Debian definitely is not ideal for gaming.
I'm happy to report that I've been able to play every game I've tried so far on `one of the worst options you can pick'.
Even installing arch these days is a stupid easy 3 minute process.
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Do yourselves a favor and stop having stockholm syndrome for windows. There are multiple linux native equivalents for all the software you're likely to use as a desktop user, typically better quality than win shit. Actually explore your options, test it out, dual boot. Once you're used to it you'll refuse to go back to micro$oft hell.
Why does Ganker jerk off about how epic gatekeeping is then cry that Linux is too complicated?
Dan Vs. is one of the most underrated shows ever, even now that maymays have made it semi well known again
>all companies work on Microsoft system
>huh let make another OS that is not as user friendly and make it more difficult to make games on, linus is sure to much support too
>most companies don't even bother using linux cause it's a waste of time and resources
>poor people move over to it because they can't spend money on getting windows
>people cry 'why won't you make games for my shitty and crappy OS that is harder to make games on too!'
heh, suck it linux chuds
The thing I can't get over is people blaming linux for lack of Adobe etc. support instead of Adobe itself.
Why would Adobe ever be at fault?
for not making a linux version?
do you have even the most basic understanding of how computers work/?
99.99% of vidya doesn't have native binaries for Linux. Those do no longer work due to newer Linux library shenanigans and the Windows version ends up being the only way to play through WINE.
It's WINE's fault, actually
Weird thing to identify publishers and developers for not maintaining linux versions, and then blame WINE for it.
Blame the moronic ideals of free software and their hatred of not including dependencies with binaries that makes any game binary compiled for Linux break in a decade.
Yeah, that is the real problem with Linux. It's not really the OS itself, it's the dependency soup that occurs because the ideals of free software, just like communism, don't actually work in the real world.
I'm not sure about this one because old vidya on Windows don't work most of the time and they come with every dependency of the game installed
I don't think pre-packaged dependency is the issue
You could play GLQuake from 1997 on Windows 10. But Linux port of HOI4 from 2019 no longer work on modern Linux.
That makes Linux objectively inferior. Simple as.
>99.99% of vidya doesn't have native binaries for Linux.
You mean 86.28%?
About 13.72% of Steam games have a Linux version.
Source: Steam store search and a calculator.
To be fair, you have to keep in mind 13% of steam games isn't bad when you consider just how much fricking shovelware, low-effort hentai games and other junk is on there. If we were talking % of REAL games, it'd probably be higher, but still not a ton.
>It's adobe's fault for not bothering to make a version for an irrelevant operating system used almost exclusively by hippies who hate paid/closed source software anyway
This is like complaining about adobe not bringing their latest software to windows 98
Weird how people here still cry about steam dropping Windows 7 support.
>I won't use Linux
>Why?
>Adobe products don't work on it
>Why?
>Nobody uses it
>Why?
>Because Adobe products don't work on it
How the frick would this get solved by Linux users?
People use linux because "muh free software", they have an ideological opposition to paid software. Every linux homosexual will tout how their FOSS alternative is as good as whatever the paid industry standard is. And of course they're full of shit 9/10 times. Then people just go back to windows.
Not everyone, some are just tired of microisraelite .
if it was FOSStards all the way down, why is steam a proprietary platform, accepted?
Free as in freedom is different to paying for software.
Ironically Adobe test that shit on Linux.
>microsoft does some stupid shit with windows
>people using baby's first OS start spazzing out about linux for some reason
every time
>predditors being cucks
and water is wet
Boy, linux must be super garbage if their users constantly have to shill for it and shame others into using it.
Don't Microsoft pay people to post here?
No idea.
But it's more pathetic to do it for free.
Windows must be super garbage if people like the one pictured in the original post unironically take time out of their day to make an image macro for expressing their refusal to use a super niche alternative rather than just not thinking about it at all, while people like (You) actively come into every single Linux-related thread desperately insisting that no one cares about Linux.
It's not shilling, we're just making fun of you for virtue signaling about using a pozzed OS.
its not even about the spying for me its about just how many resources of my compute power is going to go to constantly screen recording everything
If I switch to linux how often do I have to compile programs myself before I can install them? Program compiling comes up too often in linux discussions for it not to be something I have to do on the OS.
You shouldn't ever have to compile anything yourself unless you're using some meme fotm distro.
If you use an arch based distro it's basically an automatic process requiring no effort. Your AUR helper (like Yay) will do it for you when you want to install something.
On arch the only thing I've had to compile is PCSX2 because the devs for it are morons and the flatpak doesn't work.
All I had to type was
git clone /pcsx2 url/
cd pcsx2
makepkg -si
Also there's a binary for it so I didn't even have to compile it, I just felt like it.
i use opensuse tumbleweed, it's "bleeding edge" in the sense that the company suse makes sure the packages work and then pushes them out asap, and i haven't had to compile shit in years.
You shouldn't really need to unless you're doing something obscure. I've gotten into the habit of compiling most of the emulators I use, but I think they all have already compiled binaries or appimages in their github downloads so I don't really need to be doing that.
Very few things are not available from packages.
For most of those, you'll have install scripts, which are copy-pasteable.
"Compiling" most of the time means
>installing the necessary dev libraries
>running a single command
>waiting for a minute or two
Quite often, you'll have a script provided which automates the above process into a single command.
Sometimes, for more dev-oriented things, "compiling" (the real one) would mean checking out the repo (a single command), and running the compiler (another command).
For non-dev stuff, you'd normally only do this when you want the latest and greatest version of a given package but it's not on repos yet, so instead of waiting for the release and for repos to update, you can clone the source code and compile it yourself.
That's not necessary most of the time.
Very rarely will you ever have to actually open the code, set up variables, and do anything more difficult than that.
Even the dreaded "recompiling the kernel" process is actually very casual in the vast majority of real use cases.
Never, unless you are into super niche stuff.
I havent compiled anything by myself in a decade
Shit like browsers and steam can be downloaded from the store or through terminal, but if you want to use something more specific and niche, you will definitely have to compile it yourself every time.
I have been using various Linux distros as my main OS for about six years.
I have never compiled a single thing. I don't even know how I would do it without a guide. I have been just fine and it hasn't affected my vidya experience at all.
As often as on Windows since the alternative to not compile stuff is just wait for the binaries
I'll start messin with Linux when I get a notebook. Don't want to brick me war machine due to lack of IQ eh.
I'm just waiting for steamOS at this point
>steam OS
>have to sign in to steam before you can even use the OS
>causes your PC to act like its a gaming handheld
I mean if all he's using his PC for is gaming, yeah that's not a problem.
SteamOS is just baby proofed, mobile focused arch with KDE plasma and a modified steam big picture mode on load.
If you want to game on linux do the following:
>use arch (or an easier arch based distro like endeavor)
Why? It's lightweight and bleeding edge = good perf & most recent updates = all the gaming benefits and compatibility. Everything benefiting steamOS is in baseline arch.
>use xfce4 as your desktop environment
Why? It's stable, simple and minimalist. KDE plasma is a popular choice (and the deck uses it for its desktop mode) but it's kind of a buggy POS sometimes. This is a personal rec, you can experiment with different DEs
>If use use an nvidia card, use the proprietary nvidia drivers bc the open source ones suck atm
>install steam
>add any windows games to steam via non steam games to load proton and run them with no fuss.
>learn what a package manager and AUR helper are and how to use them to update your programs/system routinely. Basic maintenance.
you are now an epic linux gamer here's your shitposting license and complementary neckbeard
All I heard about Linux is how this doesn't work, that have a workaround, and you will get used to it.
How about you idiots make things just works without needing any tinkering at all, and make a similar UI?
That way people would be more willing to use Linux than you shilling the piece of shit here.
Sounds like you have a skill issue.
It does work. But when it breaks (basically never if you stick to stable releases) you still have a way of fixing it rather than nuking your entire PC and reinstalling everything.
There is this misconception about fixing stuff with the command line. Yes, you might have to use it if things go bad, but the windows alternative is having to reinstall everything and maybe losing your data
after the whole Windows 11 is actual goverment approved AI spyware I'm seriously thinking about changing OS, but is there a single version of any other OS that can run any game without having to do the whole moronation regular linux users have to do? I don't care about "muh but you can customize everything" I just want pretty much a windows emulator
Just install Mint. Debian is probably okay too, but it'll make you seethe when you realize it has old packages and don't know how to fix it as a complete newbie.
If you didn't switch to linux when they baked ads into the OS 12 years ago with 8 you will never switch to linux. I don't know why you're even asking. You're just gonna accept copilot cuckoldry and move on with your life.
im asking because im thinking about changing
thanks, I'll check it out
Probably go with mint then.
Maybe read a quick guide on installing Wine.
Why can't Linux gays just make "it's literally Windows down to the UI, shortcuts and such and does everything for you so you don't have to learn about things and has Wine/Proton pre-installed to make running your exe's take 0 tinkering"?
They'd get a shit ton more people using the OS and said people might actually learn something about the OS
It's already been done multiple times and no one cares.
In fact there's STILL a distro like that.
https://www.linspirelinux.com/
>costs money
i thought this shit was supposed to be "free as in freedom" or whatever the frick.
maybe that's why nobody gives a shit.
It also doesn't seem to mimic windows anymore.
Linux mint does however. So does any KDE based distro.
money
>i thought this shit was supposed to be "free as in freedom"
The phrase "free as in freedom" specifically refers to the other definition of "free" i.e. the one that isn't about monetary cost.
Perhaps you meant "free as in free beer" or perhaps your brain just doesn't work.
windows just werks
I like Linux, I fricking loath its "community". I would put all of you in a mass grave. Tired of reading your blood vessel popping moronic nonsense. I will show people how to fix Windows as much as you can fix it before I tell anyone to use Linux just to spite you.
You are vantablack Black folk. You weren't into Linux or this site before 2016. You aren't smart because you followed a wiki page. Stop recommending people to use your distro as a way to "learn linux"; fricking read a book on using the linux command line and system admistration. No, 99% of games don't "just werk" on Linux, even excluding the hecking anticheat multiplayer "slop". I have seen these threads, you circlejerk over 5% increase of fps on Cyberpunk. I will implode your fricking heads with my mind. There is nothing wrong with using Windows or Linux but there is no need to be dishonest.
>virtue signaling
>on an anonymous image board
I mean mostly I've only had issues with arch, and that's because those morons take it as a point of pride to not have sane metapackages for shit, or a working installer.
Once you have your system set up though, it's not really a big deal.
I tried by partitioning and dual booting, briefly. Running it wasnt an issue, but most games didnt work except Rust.
If they really force us to switch to win 11 at some point maybe I'll switch back and try to use a virtual machine to do windows (no fricking clue how to do that and get it to even see my graphics card).
Reminder that Linux users have been saying that the upcoming Windows disaster will completely make users switch to Linux for 23 years in a row:
>Shouldn't progress be making the OS less obtrusive? Using WinXP will be like driving a plaid friggin' minivan. And they wonder why people are switching to Linux!
https://www.metafilter.com/5850/Windows-XP-unveiled#50058
XP do be looking kinda bloopy though
Ganker homies be like
>the israelites are trying to take over the world and ruin all we know and love
>who cares if they're spying on me lmaooooooo
If you think you're not being spied on in Linux you're too stupid to breathe. Same with win7. You just proved you're using a web browser so they have you.
Linux users are mostly 15 year old kids that think hating popular thing is cool. That's why they are extremely ignorant on how privacy works, they just pretend they know. Never listen to them.
Most are actually older euro men that don't like being fricked by shitty corps.
>linux users are kids
>linux users are trans
Absolute state of (You)
>Linux users are mostly 15 year old kids
Most 15 year olds cannot handle PC OS's, so serious doubt.jpg on that shit.
I think he's talking about Chromebooks.
Do you click a button, it installs and it all works swimmingly? No? Then go frick yourself autists.
It does that already though.
Cope
Why did you bother responding if that's all you can muster?
Why do you bother lying when you know that isn't the case?
It is though.
>it is because... it just is okay?!
>clicking play is too complicated for windows users
>wangblows
>one click
so chinks are moronic that's your point?
Based morons
>not pictured the hundreds of hours of trying to make shit work on left
Which part wouldn't work? I expect a detailed explanation.
Me sticking it into your mom's ass instead of her c**t
Ah so you have nothing of value to say.
Cope and seethe jeet
Yet you still respond. Does somebody want attention?
I enjoy your seething jeet
Seems to me you're the one quite upset. Especially since all you can do is make banal responses.
Try using your big boy words.
Who hurt you?
It's crazy how slow Windows is and how I've put up with it for years without questioning it. Even the mouse would lag or freeze. Their default photo app is dogshit too and takes a full minute to load or straight up freezes my computer. Which really sucks for people like me and my family who store a lot of family pics on computer. I remember switching to irfanview and pics would actually open instantly and even comes with a gallery viewer. Then I wondered what else could be better and eventually switched to linux.
Installing a new OS is definitely scary though and probably why people like myself stuck with Windows because it's pre-installed. Doesn't help that there's so many distros to choose from, some less user-friendly, and people try scaring you saying "you're gonna spend forever on bug fixes". I've had no problems since installing Linux Mint last year and it almost functions identical to Windows except much faster.
One of the things I strongly remember was wondering why the windows image viewer couldn't play gifs by default but could handle video formats.
Windows has historically handled animated GIFs like shit for some reason. Internet Explorer 6 would play them half speed on purpose and transparency just flat out didn't work. Working animated GIFs (and learning that IE6 didn't display them properly) was legitimately the big reason I first switched to Firefox when I was a kid.
The only people who use Linux are either schizochuds who think the government is spying on them (even though they are and they know they are lonely losers larping as le heckin hackerinos of their favorite 90's movie with mysoginistic undertones) and tranniehomosexuals who use it solely to circlejerk with other troony homosexuals and to watch cp.
> schizochuds
Me until I discovered the spying is built in your motherboard, it's unironically over lmao.
Comrade major, please go back to your job.
I can watch CP on my Windows 11 just fine, sir!
It doesn't work?
NPC goycattle will stick with Microsoft until the end. There is literally nothing they could do that would make them leave. 5 years from now you'll see homosexuals on here calling anyone who doesn't want to pay by the hour for their OS a troony.
This is an anime website, right?
How do I patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?
classic
All software is free and open source if you have the time.
I'm lazy and building a computer like a fricking lego set is about the extent of my knowledge
- Nvidia drivers suck on Linux
- Anticheat doesn't work on Linux
- Often have to wait months before a proton update that will fix that game you want to play
- Updates cause the same kind of problem that on Windows.
- Sometimes dependencies break for that custom program you installed, so you have to wait months before that troon on github decides to update his code
It's literally not worth it and privacy means shit because you dumbasses still use Youtube, Google search, Ganker, etc. every site will collect and sell your data without your permission. That's why Loonix users that claim that their OS is secure are full of shit and are probably extremely ignorant on how things work, so why would I listen to a contrarian 15 year old homosexual?
>- Nvidia drivers suck on Linux
They do work, though. Running bleeding edge arch with an nvidia card and I've had no issues with games. It's mostly wayland shit they don't like, and that's 100% avoidable at present.
I don't really get what linux is
Just a different operating system. Different file manager, different core kernel, different supporting files.
I still don't get it
Just different software. That's it. If you can understand a video game console running different games, then you can understand what a PC is doing, just with multiple pieces of software instead of one.
A kernel
Do not reply to microshit shills, you might forget how to use a toilet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents#Documents_I_and_II
>desperately want to leave modern Windows due to its increasingly severe bloat and privacy issues
>Mac is irrelevant for anyone outside of media production c**ts who think the state of media production tools is as Mac-lopsided as it was in the 2000s
>Linux an annoying and overly segmented mess for most people in the middle of the bell-curve of computer literacy to jump into, and the Linux community collectively has an extraordinarily difficult time processing the extent of this because they're too deeply entrenched to understand/remember what it's like to come from Windows wanting to do more with their computers than bare-minimum web-browsing/Office usage and poke under the hood while not having the same intuition for what Linux expects that they do
>trying to force drive Win7/8 is pure cope
>I cannot, I WILL NOT, touch modern consoles
shit fricking sucks shit bros
here you can use this distro of linux anon!
https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
it's for da kidz so it should be easy!
macs are surprisingly good for coding. they're kind of like the personification of that bell curve meme where the 70 iq guy ends up saying the same thing a the 140 iq guy or whatever.
macs are also surprisingly kind of privacy nightmares, on par with windows i'd say. people don't seem to know this because i suppose apple's marketing is very good or something
I remember a few years ago where Apple had the marketing stunt of not giving the FBI some dude's private info. Felt insanely forced and fake.
>macs are also surprisingly kind of privacy nightmares, on par with windows i'd say. people don't seem to know this because i suppose apple's marketing is very good or something
Remember that time where you could not run third-party software on your Mac while being online because Apple servers shat the bed?
>It turns out that in the current version of the macOS, the OS sends to Apple a hash (unique identifier) of each and every program you run, when you run it. Lots of people didn’t realize this, because it’s silent and invisible and it fails instantly and gracefully when you’re offline, but today the server got really slow and it didn’t hit the fail-fast code path, and everyone’s apps failed to open if they were connected to the internet.
https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
You had to go offline to run software not created by Apple.
>well it's not just apple
so a nothingburger and standard procedure for every single for-profit software company...
how the frick did steve jobs manage to make every online nerd hate him and his company?
Eat a bullet.
>n-n-noooooo! it really is just apple and TOTALLY not microsoft or google!
>EAT A BULLET!!!
lol
Name 1 (one) instance of a Microsoft AND Google operating system not allowing you to open software you own because their servers shat the bed.
next time read the actual blogpost and not just the bait headline
>you could run them if you went offline
Shouldn't need to. Name those instances of something similar happening in Microsoft or Google's operating systems or frick off.
>bugs shouldn't happen! name one instance microsoft or google had a similar bug!!!
i don't really spend time looking at the kind of shit/bugs apple/microsoft/google had historically
much better stuff to do bucko...
>they are exactly the same... because they are okkkkk??
>I don't have proof for this, tho
Like I said, eat a bullet, Machomosexual.
>YOU ARE A MAChomosexualTO! YOU JUST ARE M'KAY!!!
how did steve jobs manage to buckbroke every single online nerd? O.o
I'm not cappin... fr fr ong!
EAB.
ywnbaw
Good.
stop behaving as one.
Nice projection, Black personhomosexual.
Nice projection Trayvon! EAB.
Sorry I prefer to use operating systems that do not have a history of blocking you from software you run from arbitrary reasons while you're connected at any given moment in their history.
so you're a foss enjoyer? cool... I respect that Trayvon!
No? Windows has never blocked running software just because Microsoft's servers were shitting the bed. Neither did Android. If you have any evidence to the contrary, post it. Otherwise, frick off.
I've never heard of any OS that blocked running software either...
are you tripping?
>I've never heard of any OS that blocked running software either...
crapple has every single application you run phone home. if that fails, the software won't run.
He will tell you that it doesn't matter because Microsoft and Google do the same somehow, despite having absolutely no evidence of this.
That's only if you install from the App store. Even Macgays don't do that.
>Even Macgays don't do that.
Considering that it make it some news, and that people posted about it online, there are Macgays who evidently do it, homosexual.
Normies do it. Normies barely even know how to use computers these days.
>normies cannot be Macgays
Wasn't it for every piece of software you've installed? Something about phoning home to Apple whenever you run something so that they can verify that it was properly signed or whatever
No. Apple makes it look like you can't install software outside the app store, but you just need to hold Ctrl while opening a new app the first time, then it works fine forever.
I think there's some way to disable that from the terminal, but I haven't used MacOS for years.
Normies only own a laptop because they're in college. They use their phone for all their normal computing.
>wasn't it? I though? something? whatever?
classic "always assume the worst, because frick it, i've already picked my team"
I have several Linux machines and also a Macbook. I use both, moron
That's fricking disgusting
I've pretty much resigned myself to just thinking of Apple products as a form of technological and financial darwinism.
>I've pretty much resigned myself to just thinking of Apple products as a form of technological and financial darwinism.
Considering that they're extremely competitive for performance per dollar for everything but vidya in each of their market segments, then I'd say that buying Apple is a survival of the fittest move, then? Apple's mouse sucks. The magic keyboard is an acquired taste. The trackpad is godly. The pencil is fricking expensive, but their prices for all their other stuff remains in line with the high-end Samsung, or Google products. The biggest issues with Apple have been their dismally awful approach to end-user repairability, their stingy prices for memory and storage, and their disgustingly cultish fanboys.
little bro...
1 - micropenis OS and homosexualdroid OS "phones home" just as well as crapple OS
2 - that "software won't run because it failed to phone home" never happened, as explained by the actual blogpost, it's just a bait headline meant for clicks you fricking -50iq Black person...
>that "software won't run because it failed to phone home" never happened
>iJeet gaslighting
>machomosexual!
>ijeet!
how did steve jobs manage to perma stunlock all the tech nerds? O.o
Apple's userbase is insufferable.
you're probably right...
I asked about steve jobs though...
>1 - micropenis OS and homosexualdroid OS "phones home" just as well as crapple OS
and now shitdows 11 even takes and uploads screenshots of your screen too thanks to its ~~*recall*~~
>2 - that "software won't run because it failed to phone home" never happened
crapple has ~~*notarization*~~ (aka attestation) and its checks also contact OCSP servers (to check cert validity and shit). all that shit went down, hence applications failed to launch unless you were disconnected, which defers the checks.
you're tech-illiterate
>unless you were disconnected
so apps (mac app store apps) worked fine, and all you had to do was to wait a few days for apple to fix the bug
I accept your concession, and no, I don't have a phd in software engineering so I very well am a "tech illiterate" you amazingly based lincuck mega nerd dicky enjoying gigachads *blows you a kiss* *slaps your face*
O.O
also;
ywnbaw
>it works fine as long as the big megacorpo doesn't pull the plug on it
holy ijeets shitting up the bathroom batman
>big megacorpo BAD!
>but not the other 2 megacorpos!!! those are GOOD!
I laughed... (I did in fact not laugh)
>>but not the other 2 megacorpos!!! those are GOOD!
calling out a company's shitty practices is not an endorsement of other shitty practices. frick off D&C shill
so you agree with my original statement?
I wholeheartedly accept your concession...
the frick are you talking about? you suck more dick as microjew, pajeetple, and chinkcent combined
>the frick you're talking about?
>ad-hominems
classic zoomer kid can't manage a thread lol
Apple did if you were connected to the Internet. Android, and Windows never did anything similar to this. If you have any evidence to the contrary, post it. Otherwise, frick off.
>trying to force win7 is cope
Wasn't hard at all. People have already done the work for you.
too many annoying nuances, slay the spire wasnt running at 120 fps, despite setting it to 120fps and both my monitors being set to 120hz, I could tell it was not at 60fps.
Another issue I had yesterday was I tried to play G-Darius HD, launch game, runs fine, but if I fullscreened the game, it would lock up, had to kill it via console every time, can only play it windowed.
I'm someone that's fairly tech literate and know what they're doing, there's so much shit to deal with that doesn't 'just work'.
* I could tell it was not at 120fps
Also another thing is shit like discord screenshare not having audio unless you jump trhough a billion hoops, it really is such a hassle sometimes
That is 100% on the discord devs being lazy fricks. It's a problem with electron that was fixed legit like 5 years ago.
Yeah, regardless of the fault, it's something to deal with that's really annoying, there's other software with these kind of nuances
There's a fork of discord with working screen audio by the way.
Link?
https://github.com/maltejur/discord-screenaudio
https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop
Was depreciated, sorry I don't really use discord
thanks
Didn't Nvidia just release actual drivers for Linux this week?
New drivers but nothing changed, they still suck.
What's the endgame for Windows? Will it just take screenshots and data continuously and people won't give a shit? Linux side considering how Wayland and latest beta Nvidia driver are ready I think it would be the perfect time for Steam OS desktop.
Make product shitter and shitter under the guise of making it more useable while forcing more and more useless bloat.
last time I had to buy windows I payed like $13 from some website based in hong kong
>if you don't upgrade you'll miss out on all the great new games like... uh...
well the title of that post explains it all
moron
Linux isn't generally know for having native video game support outside of a few outliers and the people who are real pushy/braggy about it come across as obnoxious and associate Linux with that annoying dipshit bragging about some gay OS only he has.
granted, yeah, Win11's AI bullshit really makes Linux appealing, no thanks to aforementioned compsci nerd. Doesn't really change that Linux is used in specific cases that most people do not do.
>Linux isn't generally know for having native video game support outside of a few outliers and the people who are real pushy/braggy about it
Support from valve via proton has made it a serious option worth considering in the gaming space. Windows is also going up in flames. We're at a crossroads, and Linux distros progressing represents freedom from the stagnant single OS MS monopoly on computing in general. Actual development is going on, things are changing. Don't fall prey to boomer mindsets and get left in the burning building that windows is when things change.
>Don't fall prey to boomer mindsets and get left in the burning building that windows is when things change.
Trust me, I don't like going into boomer mindsets, I just wish early Linux pushers would have learned to read the room and also maybe Linux should start actually advertising so more software will work on it.
>are you winning, Dad?
This is why video games cannot ever be open-source software. It just leads to your game being cloned and having people profiting from your hard work without getting a penny in return.
Linux users are the most obnoxious idiots in tech, there is a reason they are disliked in most chat groups.
You will never be a woman btw
Says the person trying to be obnoxious.
>Thousands of outraged gamers moving to increase Linux usage from 1.9% to 1.91%
Yes that's how percentages work.
Don't think you understand how few "thousands" is
We won. (You) lost.
Windows users are total midwits. I've given Linux to my boomer dad. It's all magic to him and the browsers are the same, so Windows vs Linux doesn't mean anything to him.
Power users understand that both OSes have their issues and fixing them takes roughly around the same amount of time.
It's really midwits whose knowledge comes mainly from youtube videos who think Linux is too difficult to use.
It's more of a illiteracy issue or lack of critical thinking. Microsoft is taking full advantage of lazy uneducated masses for monetary gain. Okay, and for spying purposes too. Both parties don't care so don't start complaining to me.
Troonix is unstable and shit's the bed at random.
why are linux users always pushing their religion onto others?
Because you spread FUDs about it? Just a guess.
no I don't. that is my only comment about linux and it's brought about by the numerous "leave windows, use linux" conversion threads I've seen over the years.
Linux users are mostly trans, it goes with the mental illness.
i use linux on basically all my machines i have noticed this as well
i think for the average guy, even just installing a new os can be a huge leap, and a lot of linux users don't understand or remember that
also, linux is definitely less polished overall than macos/windows, even though it is still surprsingly polished considering it's all free... and so the user experience is also less polished. i dunno, i do think linux is the correct choice these days, but i can understand that people just want their shit to work and be really easy to use, which is why windows and macos won't ever go away no matter how dystopian they get
It seems more like a "getting fed up that people who set their own hair on fire are running around screaming that they don't know why their hair is on fire" reaction. Then they pull out a flowchart describing how to not set your own hair on fire in the vain hope they won't have to keep hearing about it, that grows more forceful the more times it has to be explained.
The M4 in the iPad has a geekbench 6 single thread score of 3800. That's higher than any other consumer CPU. If Apple ever allows Proton, or eGPUs, it's fricking over for Windows. Between that and Linux becoming idiot-proof, along with DeckOS/HoloISO, there's no reason to stay on that pajeet-coded mess of an OS.
Now nVidia needs to get into serious ARM desktop/minipc hardware and allow for a community-based approach to it's drivers and Windows is forever fricked.
yeah apple's chips are absolute monsters both in power-per-watt and in power-per-dollar
no one can compete with them atm
It's just too bad that they're wasted on Apple shit.
He says with his hands crusted with cheeto dust
kinda cringe how non-"apple shit" companies can't compete with "apple shit" tbh
Right, but what's being actually gained from Apple devices HAVING this technology? It's like if an inventor finally cracked perpetual motion but he purposely limited it to only powering stupid kitchen gadgets like a Juicero.
>It's like if an inventor finally cracked perpetual motion but he purposely limited it to only powering stupid kitchen gadgets like a Juicero.
This scenario reminds me of this short film:
cheaper device prices + the usual shit you get from better cpus (can handle more demanding software)
>cheaper device prices
>Apple
>haha le funny apple devices are expensive meme!
good one, bit stale though...
The fact that it's still the case even after it nearly killed them in the 90s is a good reason to keep memeing it until it's no longer the case.
>it's still the case
macbooks and mac minis are cheaper now than they were 5-10 years ago
but sure... meme is still a factual meme...
The new iPad's competitor costs nearly as much as it does, and cannot even come close to matching it in performance.
Competition is a good thing. Look at how good the latest top-end Snapdragon chips are.
>>It's just too bad that they're wasted on Apple shit
Still better than Linux
The year of linux next year sirs, for real this time.
Truth that loonix trannies don't want you to see.
Doesn't happen on my machine
Nobody is “afraid.” They just already know that Linux is worthless garbage. If I’m going to bother dumping Windows, I’d rather get a fricking Mac than install your favorite distro.
the benefits of linux:
>DOOOOD I LIKE TYPED A COMMAND LINE I TYPED A GIT AND STUFF IS INSTALLING WHOAAAAAA IM A SUPER HACKER
the cons of linux:
>buggy as frick
>no software support
>no fricking standards
>nogaems
>nogaems
Considering we're now at the point you can preorder games on steam and be confident they'll work via proton on your deck/linux desktop you're just talking out of your ass. Also every other point you made is a skill issue.
The package installer is a benefit though, without a hint of irony. If it's in your default repositories you can just get it, no need to dig through an online store or a third party website. It's faster and easier and just better. Although you can use something like Chocolatey in Windows too, if you're a nerd.
it's 2 seconds faster than installing similar things on windows lol
it has other benefits as well
- installing from a known trustworthy source
- small speed improvements
- small space improvements
- ease of uninstalling software
- centralized update point
>- installing from a known trustworthy source
same on windows if you aren't braindead
>- small speed improvements
>- small space improvements
[citation needed[
>- ease of uninstalling software
same on windows if you aren't braindead
>- centralized update point
same on windows if you aren't braindead
>[citation needed[
on debian distros, for example, the package dependencies are native and linked to the package. it's sort of like dlls in windows, but if your exes also all used the same packages as each other instead of each having their own packages combined into the exe itself. like i said, these are small benefits, and sometimes they do have downsides, but the fact is that being able to use the same native package for all software that needs it does end up saving space
yeah like 2kb LMFAO
literally doesnt matter since installer packages are scrapped as soon as theyre done
>MUH SPACE DURING INSTALL!!!
poornig, mulit TB drives are dirt cheap
as i said, it is only a small benefit
what part of my post was incorrect or diverted from what i originally said?
you also don't have to tell me about space, i have a debian home NAS with 3 14 terabyte drives in a raidz1 configuration (~28 terabytes of storage) for my media
if it so negligible that it doesn't exist for the end-users purpose, then it's less than small
Don't ever think that you are 100% on linux. There has been instances where malicious code was added to official repositories. It's not very common, but it does happen from time to time.
Linux users also like to compile random github projects without reading the code because they often believe that open source = safe.
https://therecord.media/malicious-backdoor-code-linux-red-hat-cisa
https://threatpost.com/discord-stealing-malware-npm-packages/163265/
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/ten-malicious-libraries-found-on-pypi-python-package-index/
only the first link has to do with linux. the other two are packages installable by package managers (npm and pip, for your links)
yes, the xz situation is crazy, but it actually only affected a small portion of rolling release distros because it was discovered relatively quickly
Just posting some random examples, there are obviously more. I'm just saying that linux isn't 100% secure or even private for that matter.
>I'm just saying that linux isn't 100% secure
obviously
i never said it was 100% secure, just that the security of installed packages is higher than on windows
>or even private for that matter
most software on linux has no telemetry of any kind
100% security doesn't exist. No computer is entirely safe unless every bit of software is personally coded and written by the end user, Any using Linux understands that any system can be attacked.
I find it odd how every Linux thread ends up flooded with FUD posts.
moron
Really proving my point.
FUD about Windows? Yes absolutely strange
they've been crying about boogeymen in ur windows install since fricking XP
>immediate deflection
deflection
Yes that's what you did.
>Yes that's what you did.
I still remember that time some Troonix user made a fake Windows 11 screenshot where it says it detected a pirate copy of I think it was Don't Look Up.
I don't understand git. Why do computer nerds like to make everything so complicated?
Think of it like cmd line but you can do more with it
git is riduclously simple
git is like saying get in a weird accent
you tell linux to get something at an address and it gets it
but instead of clicking a link in your browser on windows, you do it in le command line in linux because you're a le epic hacker
git at its core is a versioning system that allows you to easily share code with other people (throughsites like github). it is not perfect, but it's incredibly useful. i'd say once you get the hang of it, doing the most important git related activities (pulling, pushing, committing, etc) is really all you need to understand
it's also insane to me that linus made git in addition to the linux kernel. dudes like dennis ritche and stallman and whoever else get a lot of credit for what they've done for the world, but in my opinion linus' contributions to the human race may be the greatest a singular human man has ever contributed to the world
Classic r*dditors, goycattle to the end
I'm messing around with Linux on a virtual machine but I'm thinking later installing it in one of my hard drive I rarely use so I can launch it from there.
Maybe I'm stupid and forgetting something, but can't people just do that and switch back between operating systems if they fear fully changing to one?
Need to game/werk something, restart and go back to Windows?
Really all you'd have to worry about there is Windows trying to eat your bootloader so you can't launch linux.
I've never dual booted, so I can't help with in that regard. However, make sure you have at least one (preferrably multiple) backup of your important shit before you mess around with partitioning your drives.
You can dual boot. Install linux and its bootloader on a different drive. Boot to that drive. The bootloader will launch and allow you to select either your linux install on the same drive, or the windows install on another.
You will soon realize that dual booting is stupid because you can just do everything on Windows.
Feel like playing a game while watching a video? Well too bad, you have to close everything and reboot, and if you haven't done that in a while, you will get some updates.
Finished gaming and want to go back to normal browsing? Gotta reboot, but since you're just browsing, why even bother?
This but switch Windows with GNU+Linux.
this tbh i've dual booted windows and arch and i literally haven't booted into windows since I did it, I should just free up the space at this point.
It's called Dual Booting and everyone who runs linux does it.
>just fix grub everytime windwiener updates
lol
LMAO
i'm going to use windows why the frick would i not use the os that does literally everything better?
>le hecking glowerinos
don't care
cattle mindset. Windows maliciously fricks with your environment to lock you in and you feel superior for just cucking out to them
if you aren't working in the industry where linux is required or an actual hacker only insufferable posers talk about and try to promote linux especially here of all places. they already made linux for the average joe its called apple, which market forces compelled to be trash because of it's target audience.
>try to promote linux especially here of all places.
I tell people how to get the best results for Linux gaming on Ganker because it both
>actually works
and
>frees you from microsofts bullshit
Just because you're moronic doesn't mean everyone is, the dialogue and presence of the threads here shows there's more than enough interest. Sour grapes like you just make this shit more funny.
Brehs I'm THIS close to switching to Linux. Windows 11 is only remotely usable with a third-party program that unfricks the taskbar and the explorer. Tablets and smartphones dictating desktop UIs were a mistake
I have some experience with Linux because I had a VM with Ubuntu and I use the Linux subsystem for work. Everyone talks about Steam and Proton, but how is the emulator scene on Linux?
>how is the emulator scene on Linux?
to my knowledge every emulator ever supports linux lmao. Check out what something like emudeck can do for the Steam Deck if you want an idea. It should all just werk.
all those comments are just zoomer morons that can't play riot asshomosexuals on linux
>microsoft screwing up windows
imagine updooting, you wouldn't be one of those morons who just mindlessly press update button would you?
Just passing by saying that nobody will ever switch to Linux, no matter how much you samegay the same threads over and over. I'm out.
you will care when they require a TPM and flip the signature enforcement and ~~*remote attestation*~~ switches (i.e. no pirated software, legit windows, only software from approved storefronts, no mods or tweaks, no unapproved hardware, etc.).
remember windows RT on ARM devices which didn't let you install anything unless you jailbroke it? that's their endgame.
you Black folk have been saying this shit since XP
irony here is that screnshot it a linux UI bahahahaha
microisraelite never mandated TPMs. this time they're enforcing it.
nice mentally ill post
on par with the XP era ones
>start tor
pedo
good morning sir
imagine outing yourself as a pajeet this fast. homosexual. go poo in loo.
I use tor to buy cocaine to make crack with bro
>start tor
based dicky enthusiast
>tor
Y I K E S !
Wow, this thread is long and stupid as frick. Anyway, the reason why there are so many anti-Linux shills who want to keep you away from a free operating system is because the big tech companies are planning to turn your computer into a locked-down console that only does what its master tells it to.
Riot Games, subsidiary of Tencent, is at the forefront of this push to "secure" your computer from yourself and end the PC as a open platform. The problem they have with Linux is that the system is too customizable (does what the user tells it to). Say goodbye to modding, community servers, uncensored chat, "insecure" old games and everything else that makes the PC a superior platform over a subsidized $500 console. Tim Sweeney has made similar statements regarding Fortnite support, he refuses to put the game on Linux because it's too open.
This anon got it right.
Riot has no business talking about security when their latest update is bricking PCs. Who the frick even plays anything by Riot anymore?
They're not talking about your security. They don't care if Vanguard opens a million backdoors into ring 0. They're protecting the game FROM you. It's corporate doublespeak. You can't cheat or mod unapproved content into the game (both of these actions are just as harmful from Riot's perspective).
>They're not talking about your security.
>They're protecting the game FROM you. It's corporate doublespeak
this.
they also don't want the goyim modding their games because then they'll be able to unlock or even add virtual clothes to the game without paying money
At this point these devices will only sell to idiot Poos and Black folk who think owning expensive products is a flex.
>OY VEY GOY YOU MUST USE ONLY OUR SPECIALLY BLESSED SOFTWARE CONFIGURATION BECAUSE WE CAN'T CODE FOR SHIT SO WE RELY ON SHITTY WHITELISTS INSTEAD OF REAL SECURITY
yet more proof that anti-cheats are a scam.
>company X does thing I don't want
>I no longer buy that product
>BUT! BUT! CHINA! TENCENT! EPIC GAMES! APPLE! INDIA! MICROSOFT! RUSSIA! EUROPEAN UNION!
not subscribing to your blog
Trying to degenerate PC gaming down to the locked down console experience is an extremely moronic and doomed plan too, because it removes the entire point of PC gaming. If ol Timmy wasn't such a piece of work he'd just release his shit on consoles and call it done, but he's greedy and wants ALL of the market share and all opposition broken down.
>Trying to degenerate PC gaming down to the locked down console experience is an extremely moronic and doomed plan too
I wouldn't be so sure about that. A coordinated push from Microsoft and a few big game companies would be enough to push most casual players over the edge. All you have to do is give them a free skin and show some manipulated statistics about how it "improves the game experience" for the majority to accept it. The technical pieces are already in place, Windows 11 "requires" TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot which is all you need for unbreakable remote attestation (like Android/iOS). Keep old games working for a few years and once they break those it's too late for anyone to go back.
Okay so now PC gaming is xbox, and devs who want to release actual PC games just do so on linux. Frankly they should accelerate this so it crashes and burns even faster.
This isn't going to be limited to gaming. Banks already block rooted phones. But yes, some niche games can still thrive on Linux.
>*types -git*
heh heh heh heh heh
i am INTELLECUTALLY SIPERIOR TO YOU!!!!
>*runs upstairs to grab the hotpocket out of moms microwave*
erm akshually git is a command rather than an argument so you wouldn't prefix it with a hyphen
moron moment
whatever you say, techlet
I tried openSUSE last year and to be honest, it was an absolute nightmare for various reasons. I still need to use Windows for work related things. I am on Windows 10 LTSC until the support ends for the foreseeable future. I do have a Steam Deck for gaming, so Linux is still viable for that, but obviously, a Steam Deck isn’t going to be running high intensity games very well unless you stream it from desktop. I don’t really know what to do since I really don’t want to update to Windows 11. Microsoft really fricked it up
There are more user friendly Linux options than suse, to be honest. Ubuntu, Mint, Pop_os, Fedora, Debian are all pretty much "works out of the box" distros
Windows 11 lowers the volume sometimes for no particular reason. It drives me nuts.
Still, I don't want to be a Linux user. I just don't want to be one of you gays. you're obnoxious like a bunch of delusional trannies.
You do realize you can use linux without being al linux gay right? You wouldn't continue eating shit just because the people not eating shit are annoying.
>Eating shit
Yeah, see that's the thing. I don't trust people who unironically use the word "queer" instead of homosexual. are you posting from your work wifi, you Black person?
you piss me off like no one else.
>Yeah, see that's the thing. I don't trust people who unironically use the word "queer" instead of homosexual. are you posting from your work wifi, you Black person?
NO Black person I'M NOT POSTING FROM MY WORK WIFI, YOU ARE YOU MICROSHIT SHILL.
GET A CLUE
How else would you describe and OS that pushes ads on your homes screen. Or requires camera so they can record you. Or wants to AI screen record everything including your bank details but turns off when you use Netflix.
The funny thing about your post is that literally everything you wrote is something Microsoft is unironically doing RIGHT NOW.
yeah that was his point anon... do you need your coffee?
The post wasn't being sarcastic. The worse part is that it's going to get worse. Because that's how mircosoft works. It's optional now it'll be mandatory later. It's all local, it'll phone home later. Microsoft slips this shit in and then makes it's worse on the next windows version. I don't understand how anyone can see that and not think Microsoft is feeding them shit.
>Still, I don't want to be a Linux user. I just don't want to be one of you gays. you're obnoxious like a bunch of delusional trannies.
Filtered. Switch for your own practical benefit instead of some homosexual percieved social judgement of a userbase. Queerest and least based mindset i've seen all week on Ganker
>All of this troonix samegayging
Disgusting.
>Steam had 120 million active users in 2023
>1.9% of 120 million is 2,280,000
>open steam for 5 seconds
>you are now one of the 120million active steam users for the year of 2023!
t-t-thanks gabe...
Linux users are basically the tinfoil hat wearers of the internet. It's nice knowing that no one takes them seriously.
> afraid
OP is making a good case to get a Nintendo Switch.
I know I shouldn't laugh, but ...
*siiiiiiiiiip*
Ubuntu 7.04 "Fricking homosexual", now that was a good release
The heart of the truth is normies will always use what they know. Windows and Apple pay big money and offer huge discounts to schools so they are teaching kids how to use their OS and most people are never going to go out of their way to use or learn anything different. This isn't me shitting on linux or microsoft. It's just hard fact.
Nice cope, if this was true, then nobody would ever change browsers, or apps on their phones, etc.
That's like saying that everyone uses Steam instead Epic because Steam is what everyone normally uses and recommends and Epic is this amazing secret program that is miles better than Steam and only smart people use.
bro changing your browser and changing operating system are two very different things. If anyone here is coping its you. I use both windows and linux for work and like them both quite a bit but if think there is going to be some linux renaissance where everyone jumps over then you must be moronic.
The actual hard truth is that people will instantly switch to any kind of service that is beneficial for them, it doesn't matter how hard it is to learn that tool, they will ditch the old thing for the new thing as long as that new thing is better.
no, everyone uses steam because they already have their sunk cost fallacies sunk into their pdf file libraries filled with games
why they pathetically use the "muh I don't want to have a second shortcut to a second game launcher on muh desktop" argument I dunno...
So you're saying that if people used Epic for 1 year, they would tell you that Epic is the better service? No, you're being moronic.
>better service
it's just stores that sell videogames... all they have to do is sell games lol
what exactly is a "better service"?
I didn't know linux users liked Tim's wiener this much
didn't answer my question gabe's gob guzzler
The heart of the truth is that having a userbase is what makes your UI/OS user friendly. Nobody but hardcore linuxgays use Linux, so Linux's interface and user operability remains friendly for those only on the spectrum.
Very true
Check out how many news are there of companies trying to changing something in the work enviroment and employees just complaining that they have to learn the new thing that is going to replace the old thing
Most people will complain that they have to learn something new, to learn new stuff one has to stress its mind even if a little. The very first post of this thread is someone saying they have to spend 4 years in college to learn how to use which is bullshit through and through
>using Dan for something like this
He's too schizophrenic for computers. The show itself acknowledges this. When he does finally start to use them he quickly becomes enraged by the bullshit and rampages.
If he were to use any OS consistently it would be Linux but only after getting revenge on most of the distro devs for making it too complicated or someshit and then getting talked down - as occasionally happens.
So regarding the new thing that microsoft is trying to push, are they really going to be recording your screen 24/7? And if so, would my microsoft account potentially be at risk for looking at things that microsoft does not like...?
what exactly are you doing that you fear mister bill gates will rape you in the ass for?
Facts: All linux users are trans, they also like to groom kids, that's why they are so afraid of being caught.
but that guy said that he uses microsoft
>mister bill gates
That's MASTER bill gates you ungrateful fricking cretin!
Using tor, for stuff.
Didn't read this gay thread, but I reached out to some pajeet student license-reselling website and got my OS and lifetime 365 subscription for like 300 rupees / 6 USD online. Microsoft isn't fricking me, I'm fricking microsoft.
t. totally ranjeet surkesh studying stochastic modelling in IIT Madras
>300 rupees / 6 USD online.
Paying anything is overpaying for windows. Massgrave exists dumb idiot.
Pajeet King of Microsoft thanks you for your contribution!
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) t b h
it's a piece of shit
windows just werks, and the fact that it's more popular than linux despite microsoft doing their best to make it unusable should tell you all you need to know about linux
You can get the distribution of windows that is used for government and industry which has all the telemetry stripped out.
>linuxtards think you have to PAY for windows
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
go back
I really want to but it seems God has other plans. I can't get the usb stick to even boot let alone get to set up arch. I can't turn off secure boot from the bios so I'm having to install it from an Ubuntu live session. very annoying
Ive never even used linux. How hard would it be for a noob to use?
Install Cygwin and exclusively use it on your everyday tasks to decide for yourself.
windowsgays are just like consolegays. they been doing something for decades and refuse to learn something new
>downloaded and installed mint a few months ago
>literally just werks
i spent god knows how long anguishing over having to learn a new OS and then i just went and fricking did it and i couldnt be more happy that i did. outside of some very minor things that were mostly just me setting up the computer to how i wanted it, there have been pretty much no issues that ive seen yet. Its unreal how snappy and responsive it feels in comparison to W10.
What games can you run on it? I have been wondering if i could emulate games on mint without it fricking everything up.
right now im addicted to runescape but, ive been playing ps1/snes roms on retroarch without a problem. Linux has issues with EAC, so no fortnite/valorant/etc but, i dont play those in the first place so its not a concern to me. Aside from that, i opened up steam and just piddled around with a few games at random and didnt seem to have anything to worry about. But, i cant really answer you there. Ultrakill was the only one i specifically remember opening.
Alright cool, and i don't play much games either except for retro shit and minecraft. I've been wanting to get into stalker recently and since that's on steam I don't think there'll be much of a problem with it either; I also use DOSbox for really old shit too.
>stalker
iirc there are linux native versions of them. But yeah, youre gonna be fine man.
>chinese spyware
> : (
>american spyware
> : D
Yes. Chinese spyware is owned by SOULLESS commies. Only the NSA's spyware has that vivid spark full of freedom and SOUL
a fellow maga enjoyer!
Captcha: N1GEOR
Correct
ironically, chinese are way more based as well
americans will let a bunch of israelites and cucks spy on them and think thats a win
Dan is exactly the type of person to care about every single frickup Microsoft makes though
A lot of the free alternative software available on linux fricking sucks compared to what's available on windows or macOS, because linux users are mostly poor teenagers and thirld-worlders so companies have no incentive to port their shit there. Muh "games mostly work on it" isn't enough to make people switch, there's still too many compromises
>A lot of the free alternative software available on linux fricking sucks compared to what's available on windows or macOS,
As someone who switched, it actually tends to be way fricking better, but you're a shill posting bullet point insults so I don't expect you to know jack shit about the real experience of what you're posting about.
>As someone who switched
*Transitioned
you deffo transitioned alright
>*Transitioned
more like ascended, wincuck shill.
>yeah shit happened on linux but who cares? it got patched quickly
>WHAT MR.BLOGGER??? CRAPPLE HAD A MAJOR SYSTEMIC BUG THAT TOOK DECADES TO BE FIXED AND NOT A SINGLE EYE SHEEP CARED ABOUT IT????? OUTRAGEOUS!!!
Even with how bad modern Windows is... Linux is still worse.
imma bout to blooooooooooog hard
I am genuinely considering eventually switching to a Linux distro, since most of the games I play work on Linux anyway and I really do not want to use Windows 11 for a PC.
Gaming is really the main reason why I am not running linux right now.
>morons scared about "recall"
>not even active without buying a dedicated device that has a ARM chip
lol
ARM is the future btw
cope, seethe, idc
yeah they weren't satisfied fisting our asses now they want to stick the entire ARM up there
ARM being the future isn't important. What matters is how ARM will be shilled well before it's properly functional. Tons of old software is going to be rendered usable because consumers of being rushed into new thing,
*Rendered unusable
And the boiling frog stays inside as the temperature slowly raises
I know right? feels bad being a linux user.
you literally need school lessons to use linux
All you need to know is how to use a search engine.
I shill for windows 11 because i enjoy watching v/ getting cucked by microsoft
most ontologically evil poster in existence
i think the biggest problem with linux is that the "linux is hard" meme has outreached what it actually is and 99% of what people complain about is people messing with their computers way more than the average person would and just the unfamiliarity of things at the start. Like. Everyone will google a problem and start messing around with config files and pasting weird dlls from 15 year old russian forum posts not knowing what theyre doing but because its in windows, theres a level of familiarity even if what youre doing is so out of your scope of knowledge of whats happening, you still feel comfortable doing it. Take that away and all of a sudden everyone freaks out. me included until i realized, oh. This isnt that bad. Some simple things are a little obtuse to figure out but. just like with windows. Youre usually just a search away from your answer.
What a coincidence that the spread of this meme happens to benefit the largest corporation in existence.
nothing to notice here goyim, here's how smart artificial intelligence copilot is
Literally just pirate and debloat W11 who cares what microdick is doing
>you NPU spies on you anyway
Literally just learn how to use linux. Learning new things is fun.
I reported this thread hours ago.
Are reddit meta threads allowed on Ganker? No they are not, janny. Do your job.
>leave computer on to go to grocery store
>computer updates to W11 even though I turned off auto updates
This is fricking infuriating
>apple, microsoft, google, tencent, china and muttlandia are all spying on you!
I don't care... they can spy on my dicky archive, frick em
I'd switch for my living room PC if it wasn't so lacking. Linux still doesn't even have HDR.
I will 100% switch to Linux when it becomes even slightly better than Windows in everything it does. So never.
So you switched six years ago and just forgot?
>Linux has to be better at spying on users too
It's over
As much as I hate Windows, I hate Linux and it's users more.
Can you make your bot posts more organic sounding?
copium
It's funny because it's true
It's not. Microsoft world-wide has drops to sub 70% and Linux hits as high 15-20% in some places. Microsoft droping to sub 50% in 20-30 years is a realistic possibility,
>almost every retail computer is sold with the newest windows installed
>linux being something that you have to go out of your way to install
a large amount of computer users use it as a facebook and youtube machine. if this were the other way around, i would sincerely doubt that people would be tripping over themselves to try and install windows with the sheer amount of fricking aids that resides in the OS.
COPE
im just using you as a backboard to strengthen my own verbalization of arguments. Either way. Very strange behavior xir. consider what posting looks like this looks to someone on the outside.
We're on Ganker bud, Nobody cares about shilling linux to normies, even though it is unironically better for the type of shit they do, Making it a viable option for PC gamers (already niche) can improve things a lot.
that's out of date, MS has been hemmorrhaging marketshare for the last ten years or so
It's funny that OSX is catching up until I remembered that Mactoddlers are the primary demographics of Musicians, Artists, Creative types.
basically Windows shot its monopoly in the head when it started trying to force always-online forced-updates version switching bullshit because the people who need to sit down in front of a computer for hours drawing furry porn and making 8-bit soundtracks for indie games can't suddenly have their work deleted when it decides to auto-update restart with no override three hours into their work like what happens consistently on Windows, now.
I wish gamers weren't so fricking spineless, and t hey would put their foot down over it, too. But OSX has even less games than Linux at this point.
>Linux
>Gaming
LOL
>pajeet shill is just dumping his folder now
we won linuxchads, witness this melty
NTA but you have been instantly replying to some shitposter bot every single time.
I'm just a more sophisticated bot that's designed to be more based, don't worry about it anon.
You underestimate how fricking moronic the average person is, then you need to account for the fact that 50% of people are stupider than that.
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hi Ganker
linux is for homosexuals
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basado
Why are Linux users are too cringe, holy shit.