why are Geno fans so weird about Geno? Super Mario RPG isn't a bad game or anything but I've always found it weird how some people are super into Geno specifically. i've never really seen that kind of thing with others games, especially spin offs. you don't see people being like "man I fricking love Chip from Sonic Unleashed" or like "My favourite character ever? Glyde from Megaman Battle Network." shit you don't even see this level of autism from other mario RPGs i've never seen anyone like YO IS THAT KOOPER FROM PAPER MARIO
this isn't even a smash bros exclusive thing look at this shit https://automaton-media.com/en/news/20230623-19723/
what's the fricking deal???
They are just hipsters who like the design.
Many of them haven't even played the game, they are just Smashtards.
Same is true with Skull Kid.
Skull kid is iconic though. You know how many basic b***hes you can see with majoras mask tattoos. Cant say the same of geno
No. Where are they?
Skull Kid has far more character to him than Geno. It's completely understandable why people like him. Geno is pretty stoic. I've never understood the appeal. I'm assuming you had to be there for Mario RPG in the 90's.
>I'm assuming you had to be there for Mario RPG in the 90's.
Who wasn't? It was only 27 years ago. All the 10 year old's who played it then are still the core audience of video games today. This is the perfect time for a remake.
in my eyes, its the perfect time for a sequel, but we dont get sequels anymore. only remakes. forever. the same games over and over.
not true moron
I recall morons like you saying SE never ever makes new games when rumors about remakes of FF IX and X remakes came up.
You morons did not play Octopath Traveler II a few months ago. You did not play Neo TWEWY. You did not play Bravely Default the second. You just only pay attention to the remakes of your childhood games, ignore everything, and complain of your own ineptitude. You're the fricking problem.
Almost all people who are weird about Geno are that way because of Smash
I imagine it has more to do with autism than Smash, but those two *do* go hand in hand. It's a special kind of autist, one commonly referred to as a "rostergay".
it's just one of the autistic hyperfixations of this eternally contrarian board. Geno is loved here for the sole reason that he is overlooked, shunned, forgotten. His design and stuff is of secondary importance.
No frickwad. This is HARDLY a Ganker thing. Where the frick have you been. Geno has been desired for Smash before Ganker existed.
Is any of that official merch? Pretty sure he's had only 2 things ever, a keychain and a puzzle
He's a really interesting and cool design/personality for the Mario universe. That's all I can say about it. Some people will get more into and be autistic about it, but that's legit the only reason I like him so much. He's just different and brings a lot of cool suggested lore and flavor to the world
>the design on his hat was the turn key from when he was a doll
WHAT THE FRICK HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THAT
I just think he's neat. Would be nice to see him in something else but thats about it. Really he's got the boba fett effect
>what's the fricking deal???
He looks cool and does massive damage.
smash homosexuals are responsible and now smash is irrelevant once again
>this isn't even a smash bros exclusive thing look at this shit
>Article is about a guy drawing Geno daily until he's added in smash
It's 100% because of smash. He has a fun design but that's about as much as I've ever given him any thought.
My theory, aside from just a cool design, is that SMRPG was a lot of kids introduction to JRPGs. Unlike other JRPGs the health and attack numbers are relatively low throughout. Suddenly Geno pulls out a 9999 attack. That shit can leave an impression.
JRPG didn't catch on until FF7.
Mario RPG barely sold 500k.
And now, it's the highest selling pre-order.
So, who gives a flying frick about these stats eh?
>Mario RPG barely sold 500k.
And back then that was considered good given the genre.
Sales vs cultural reach are a strange thing until about the 7th gen, due to more rampant game sharing and especially rentals. For example, everyone played superman 64 enough to learn that its shit.
Don't know where you got that number from, Mario RPG sold 2 million.
Also probably twice as many rented it or borrowed it from a friend.
Wow, maybe four million people played that spinoff with that side character twenty five years ago? No wonder he's the only video game character that has ever mattered!
Ganker is disproportionately men aged 25-35, within that demographic a solid chunk played this game.
Geno haters lost.
It seemed like kind of a reasonable pick back during Brawl as a cool fan favorite pic but as time went on the desperation festered.
>That argument some anon made that the game stars Geno and Mario is the side character
Super Mario RPG centers on Geno's quest to restore the Star Road. Geno just ropes Mario into it.
It's more so about Mario accidentally stumbling into fighting a transdimensional god.
it's unironically just smash. that article you linked where the dude drew geno 1000 times started with him wanting geno in smash.
yeah I genuinely do not understand the obsession considering he doesn't even really do all that much in the game.
I bet was that kirbother autist right?
hell mellow had more of a personality
No no no no OP.
It's over. None of this shit.
Shut the frick up 15 minutes ago.
Shut the complete and utter frick up.
This is the topselling pre-order. There's nothing phantasmic about the worth of this game, and of Geno.
Sew your mouth shut, get your hands run over by a truck. Trouble us no more with your shit.
why does he not have more porn is what i want to know
pinnochio if he gun
I played through this game 12 years ago, and only just now found out that if you time Geno Whirl perfectly, it hits for 9999.
It that why people dick ride this dude so much? I remember dropping him from the party once I could have both Bowser and Peach.
No he gets dickridden because he's overall rad.
How do you go through Geno's introduction and the way he joins the party and not GET IT.
Jesus.
He's a star warrior or whatever that possesses a neat looking doll, and then you chase him down in a forest. What is so special about that?
>I watched a YouTube video on the plot points and didn’t play the game
Zoomer. He was a cool character because he was cool. Not only was he one of the best party members, but he had a cool background and said cool shit.
He can deal 9999 damage on command
And fricking shoots his fists
I want SMRPG only to succeed because Paper Mario/Mario & Luigi will get revived
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tabata doesn't give a frick about Paper Mario, and M&L is probably dead forever. It's time to let go, anon.
geno is to mario fans what boba fett is to star wars fans
honestly not wrong
still like geno though.
He got brought again in a terrible show?
>this isn't even a smash bros exclusive thing
Geno gays (zoomers) don't care about SMRPG. Only boomers.
true
SM RPG is older than I am (this means I haven't played any version of SM RPG) but I think Geno looks cool.
That's all he really needs to be memorable.
They don't actually like Mario, because he's out of place in the Mario universe.
They don't actually like RPGs, because Mario RPG isn't even the best RPG on the SNES.
They don't actually like video games, or they could name a million more deserving characters for Smash.
They're a person that thinks he looks generically "cool". They are a person that shops Hot Topic for Invader Zim and Nightmare Before Christmas merch.
Terrible take.
Go eat your green beans bucko.
Nightmare is my favorite disney movie... Why does it seem like its only legacy is a bunch of hipsters and "emo" thots that are still stuck in the 2000s?
I have seen far more people interested in Geno fans than actual Geno fans.
In fact, I don't even think more than 10 Geno fans actually exist.
I like Geno
Uh oh, let me do a psychoanalytical deep dive to inform you that you don't actually like Geno, sweaty.
He's the Mario equivalent of Boba Fett.
>!?slop
didn't even know about the remake
I just started playing the original a few days ago because decided to replay old snes games this summer
what a coincidence
also, recommend me some nice snes games.
is terranigma good?
NTA, but Terranigma is very good.
Before that, play Illusion of Gaia. They're kind of related to each other along with Soul Blazer (I've never played that, though). Illusion of Gaia is amazing, though.
Chrono Trigger and EarthBound I probably don't even need to mention, but I will. Great RPGs. Those 2 plus Mario RPG are games I played so much as a kid.
One of my personal favorite, probably lesser known titles, is E.V.O. Search for Eden. It's a side scrolling action game where you use EXP you get from killing enemies to evolve. You start as a fish and can evolve different parts of your body. You later become a lizard, and so on. Pretty cool.
Adding on to what others have said.
>Dragon Quest V
>Seiken Densetsu 3
>Lufia 2
>FF5
Why do people lie like this to seem cool on Ganker
>threads about it on Ganker for the last week
>woah there's a remake coming out?
shut the frick up
Simply because Geno is the literal only character of his species across all bajillion IPs Nintendo got.
He is a soulless puppet possessed by a star. People get attached to unique shit that stands out like this.
The closest thing we got is Rosalina since she's a star mommy but she's still human.
Geno will never be canon
His only chance of not becoming canon hinged on SMRPG never being remade / remastered due to expired licenses with Square, and SNES rom ports on Virtual Console not counting because it's still the old game.
It got brought back and got featured in Smash, so it's completely over for doomers.
Smash isn't canon
No but having a prehistoric IP brought back is validating their existence.
And then receiving a remake on top of it is consolidating their place in canon.
>No but having a prehistoric IP brought back is validating their existence.
The existence was always valid.
It's just that the emperor is shown to have no clothes.
Observe all the feckless homosexuals in this very thread, who are bending over backwards trying to explain away who all these Geno fans really are.
It's embarrassing, really. And saddening. Who talks like this? lmao
>The existence was always valid.
The popular argument is that the game wasn't canon because it was forgotten and probably forbidden from being brought back due to expired contracts.
Now it's back.
Well, since I don't give a damn about popular arguments, you may as well have told me the color of your socks in reply to what I said.
I'm still awaiting the proper reply.
I've given an answer related to more substantial arguments because yours is weak as shit.
>muh emperor has no clothes
>look at these idiots
>so embarrassing
what argument do you want back for these claims? NO U? some scientific essay with charts to say it ain't so?
>I've given an answer related-
I'm detecting a deft non-answer from this post.
Skip.
If a game got forgotten by Nintendo for over a decade and didn't even get mentioned on Smash it would be given as a confirmation it's dead, so reverse logic applies.
Its not canon because Smash occurs within the imagination of a child or are you saying characters like Snake Sephiroth and now canon to the Mario universe
>are you saying characters like Snake Sephiroth and now canon to the Mario universe
Everyone knows Smash is a form of Nintendo acknowledging its own IPs, the ingame Smash canon is window dressing for that fact. Lack of acknowledgment implies it's dead.
Smash alone is not indication of canon, but preservation in Smash implies acknowledgment the IP is still alive. Then if it gets properly brought back it won't be a surprise, just cementing the fact it is canon.
The Geno doubters lost
Because out of the whole cast Geno is the only party member that looks JRPG-ish and more related to Square. All the others including Mallow look like proper Nintendo mascots.
Of course Final Fantasy weebs would latch onto him when playing this game.
>All the others including Mallow look like proper Nintendo mascots.
Mallow is literally a fat Kirby
He was many kids' first introduction to the "my species exists beyond your mortal comprehension, see you can't even pronounce my true name" trope.
He also had badass laser cannons in a game where other powerful attacks involved turtle shells or crying pussy clouds.
weebs like his edgelord final fantasy esque design and weebs are overwhelmingly uber-autistic.
idk but the fujos who keep drawing him want to fug him
>My favourite character ever? Glyde from Megaman Battle Network."
Glyde would be pretty cool if he did, well, anything
I have always wondered that. I played the game as a child and never saw anything special about Geno, but if I remember correctly, he makes a heroic entrance in the game. I don't know if I'm correct, but he starts as if he was just a toy, but during a crisis, he appears from nowhere and saves Mario and his friends with his machine gun arm or something like that.
I think this entrance impressed a lot of kids and they came to love Geno because of this.
I think is the opposite, Geno is about to be defeated by Bowyer and then Mario does a heroic entrance and saves him.
he means the cutscene where a mysterious sparkle of light gets into a small doll and makes him bigger and real
they projected themselves as that pink toad boy
yo is that Kooper from Paper Mario?!
Okay so we've established it's mostly because of Smash bros. But why the frick did he become such a popular pick for smash to begin with? There are tons more deserving characters. Or is it just one of those things some autist started and it snowballed
>Okay so we've established it's mostly because of Smash bros
Only to morons. Holy shit.
>But why the frick did he become such a popular pick for smash to begin with?
Sakurai said once in an interview that he considered to include him in Brawl
AND YET, PEOPLE HAVE WANTED HIM SINCE MELEE.
IT'S ORGANIC YOU STUPID FRICK. STOP PRETENDING A WAVE OF SAKURAI'S HAND MADE EVERYONE BEHAVE THIS WAY.
EVERTHING.
LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
IS ORGANIC.
IT'S THE ONLY EXPLANATION. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE ONLY EXPLANATION. WE'VE SAID IT OVER AND OVER.
AND NOW, A REMAKE OF THE GODDAMN GAME IS THE HIGHEST SELLING PRE-ORDER.
IT'S DONE.
WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS. NOT FIGURATIVE RECEIPTS THIS TIME. REAL GODDAMN RECEIPTS.
LAY DOWN AND DIE WITH DIGNITY.
>EVERTHING.
>LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
>IS ORGANIC.
wrong.
No anon. You. Are wrong.
>AND NOW, A REMAKE OF THE GODDAMN GAME IS THE HIGHEST SELLING PRE-ORDER.
>IT'S DONE.
>WE HAVE THE RECEIPTS. NOT FIGURATIVE RECEIPTS THIS TIME. REAL GODDAMN RECEIPTS.
Provide evidence.
GOOGLE IT.
Nah, game confirmed flop.
cope geno hater you lost accept it
geno was the first interesting mario character back when the entire mario cast was essentially just the smb1 characters. people simply thought he was cool and it snowballed
It’s because of Smash. Rostergays have been pushing for Geno for two decades. They get an adrenaline rush for rostergayging for Geno who is always going to be the next character announced in their minds.
>you don't see people being like "man I fricking love Chip from Sonic Unleashed" or like "My favourite character ever? Glyde from Megaman Battle Network."
I've seen people act like this towards Bandana Dee, and just like Geno the reason is Smash
Bandana Dee is playable in multiple Kirby games, and spears are cool.
>Sakurai still refuses to put more Kirby Characters/Stages from games he himself didn’t work on
>says Great Cave Offensive is from SSU
>it's not, it's from Super Star for the SNES
I'm legitimately surprised Ultra Sword Kirby Masked Dedede, Dark Meta Knight and Galacta Knight were added.
Thing is that Kirby games will go out of their way to include shit from Smash, it still happens to this day with Meta Knight's Final Smash from Ultimate being included in Star Allies and Forgotten Land as Meta Knight's most powerful attack.
>Spears are cool
You have a spear helicopter and...
Yeah nothing else
No, I'm just saying in general.
>man I fricking love Chip from Sonic Unleashed
People retroactively love Chip because of the tearjerker credits song.
Frontiers rectified that by giving a cute girl who actually deserves crying for instead of trying to redeem an obnoxious little shit.
geno is cool but genogays are strange, he's never coming back and it's shown as such in the story. at least you get to see him again in the remake, but now we'll just have another generation of genogays in denial. At least it''s not like yoshihomosexuals where they're into the most depraved shit IRL
>never coming back
in a hypothetical RPG2 yes, but won't stop him from coming back to Smash and other collabs such as Olympic Games and shit
It hasn't happened and it will never happen. I don't hate Geno I think he's fine but I don't see why people are borderline obsessed with his return in any media. If anything I'd get tired of seeing him in mario spinoff games like Rosalina being in fricking everything now
>It hasn't happened
oh please, now you'll tell me it doesn't count because he needed a proper model instead of the Mii skeleton and a VA for his nonexistent voice
On par with having a sticker "soul" and are you really going to sit here and say Sans is a valid smash character as well because he's a Mii costume? It's grasping for straws
Black person Geno doesn't need more than that because his character tantamounts to what that costume already provided.
Why are you bringing up Sans? Is he also an OC made by Nintendo in a Nintendo game?
>Black person Geno doesn't need more than that
He should if you actually give a shit about him.
>why are you bringing up another character with a mii costume and not an actual place in the roster?
For comparison. The frick kind of question is that?
What the actual frick are you talking about?
>He should if you actually give a shit about him.
What the everloving frick are you expecting out of him when that's all the characterization he got already?
>For comparison. The frick kind of question is that?
Again: what does his inclusion in the main roster entails over what you already got on the Mii costume? Would he be able to speak if he was included there? But he isn't voiced.
Your reason for his validation hinges on him being positioned in the character select screen over a costume option that accomplishes the exact same purpose.
It's about as flimsy of an excuse like saying he needs an Amiibo to be recognized.
Now you'll tell me all the characters who ended up as Amiibo cards aren't canon Nintendo characters, only those who got physical statues.
He's more valid then the Geno costume since he got the full head and a music track. Shoot, even the Shantae outfit ended up coming with a music track.
Nintendo and Sakurai had one job, they put effort into San, Cuphead, Bomberman and Shatae but couldn’t do the same for Geno
Conspiracy time, they knew the remake was in the works and didn’t want to give him a good Mii costume because they want to save his big getting in smash moment for next game when he’s actually a fully playable character.
I mean, they did do that with K. Rool and Inkling, but at the same time I doubt they're planning that far ahead this time, seems like they're actually taking a break from Smash development
Conspiracy time, when they were negotiating for Cloud, Sephiroth, Hero, and Sora, they said "hey, what if we threw in a Geno Mii costume and a SMRPG remake? They're easy money and maybe they'll make those spergs shut the frick up."
Full game remake easy money over Sakurai making a character for them. I don’t think a full game remake is to shut up what this board has deemed an annoying fanbase. Geno getting a redone Mii would have been tossing a bone to shut up some spergs, face it you Geno haters got comfortable thinking you won when it’s been the exact opposite all along.
I would also prefer Geno to be Base Roster too, so he doesn’t suffer the Banjo and Sora curse of being paid DLC but not feeling like a DLC, that’s just my personal opinion (fricking Inkling feels more like DLC than Banjo and Sora) and plus every DLC only gets played for a few days and then people move on and wait for the next character like with Ultimate.
Perhaps in this remake or a sequel, they will finally connect him to Rosalina making that fan connection canon
no because rosalina is not connected to star road, she's the queen of the cosmos. the mother of lumas who become galaxies. star road is basically "heaven" where wishes are granted, rosalina is not connected to that shit in any way. forced moronic headcanon.
paper mario was originally called smrpg 2 before square enix told em "frick you we own the name super mario rpg" and it has parallels to smrpg
so i'm pretty sure these guys are that "higher authority" geno mentions
I don't think so personally. Geno is stronger than all of them put together, so that wouldn't make sense.
i know but remember that in paper mario these guys are the powerful entities
the star rod would be the geno equivalent in terms of power since it boosts power and defense (like geno boost)
coolio
i've seen smrpg hacks that like to make geno actually edgy
>so i'm pretty sure these guys are that "higher authority" geno mentions
A Mario RPG fangame that I played did exactly that.
Sakurai mentioned Geno in an interview where he said his gun arm was cool and that he'd be an easy addition.
Rostergays latched on and likely only learned about Geno because of that.
That being said, Geno *is* cool and has a lot of neat moves that could translate well into smash, but you're absolutely right that that applies to like...fricking every character.
There were also some early brawl era youtube videos and mods that made it seem like Geno was some secret character, so it might be some L is Real shit for zoomzooms
You've already been addressed.
Put a gun in your mouth and squeeze.
Seems like an intense response over a baby doll that I even said was cool, but alright
It was a meme and redditors glommed onto it unironically
The SNES didn't have a lot of truly great games because of hardware limitations. SMRPG really stood out in that regard so for people who grew up with the SNES this game was very important to us.
>The SNES didn't have a lot of truly great games because of hardware limitations
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Oh frick off
The SNES only has like 5 games actually worth going back to today, and only Super Metroid is really that amazing.
>Oh-
LMAO SHUT THE FRICK UP I AM NOT READING A REPLY TO MY REPLY CONSIDERING WHAT YOU SAID.
LMAO STUPID BASTARD LMAO LMAO
Actually the game where you are a generic ape and move to the right if the screen until you can't anymore is a masterpiece clearly superior to games like Metroid prime and BotW
donkey kong country is better than botw, yes.
>The SNES only has like 5 games actually worth going back to today
>The SNES didn't have a lot of truly great games because of hardware limitations
Idiot.
Now super Mario kart there's a fricking masterpiece right there
I appreciate that you didn't include dkc3 though that game fricking blows.
Check number twelve, idiot.
>I appreciate that you didn't include dkc3 though that game fricking blows.
Filtered.
Project M already blew the socks off incorporating Geno into Smash. Sakurai won’t even come close to that kino.
Fixed
He's a cool puppet
>why are Geno fans so weird about Geno?
His hype came from a time where emulation was less known to normalgays, but the information about characters was out on the net. Hordes of kids read about Geno and he seemed incredibly cool for a one off Nintendo character.
ALL OF YOUR THEORIES ARE GARBAGE AND CONTRADICTORY WITH EACH OTHER.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY GARBAGE.
How are they contradictory?
>Kids too dumb to try downloading an emulator
>Kids smart enough to read up on games they haven't played
holy shit my favorite character, star road exposition man!
There’s nothing interesting about Geno.
>some people facetiously suggest geno should be in smash because other random characters noone cares about are getting added
>nintendoid morons take it way too seriously
>it spirals out of control for years
and now here we are
>Lifelong Geno fans when they play Super Mario RPG for the first time
It's just rostergays
I think that a lot of it is because Mario RPG fans want a character but there's no other obvious choice. Paper Mario could kind of work but it would be a little weird.
This kind of thinking is stupid and I'm glad Soccer guy doesn't go for it, characters should be picked because they're inherently popular not because "well we need a representative/X hasn't gotten a character in a while"
It wouldn't be weird at all, there are three Links. I want Mario & Luigi a la Ice Climbers.
i wish bro attacks like the first M&L were what the other games used. the long ass minigames started getting annoying
People say this like they know what’s best, but they don’t
It went in the logical direction, and fights were paced around it too, so it worked well
Alphadream is dead and so too is Mario & Luigi
Cackletta or any other relevant character never even got a trophy
Nintendo cared so little for Alphadream, they continually charged them to use the Mario IP so they could continue making Mario & Luigi games
It’s over
Sad, but you're probably right. Note how I accept that rather than pissing and shitting for twenty years like a Genogay.
Genogays never even played SMRPG kek
lies and you know it cry more
Most of alphadream now work within Nintendo
Because Geno is based, and anti-Geno trannies seethe anytime he is mentioned. Right now they're bleeding from over dilation.
wouldn't trannies be drawn to geno? since the star transitioned to a puppet body.
>anytime a character changes forms, is possessed, turns into another species is a trans allegory
No anon, this rationale is the real troony mindset. This is how they claim Bridget, Naoto and every other character.
oh, ok
>you don't even see this level of autism from other mario RPGs
fawful and dimentio?
I think it has a lot to do with the mandate. So many of the same Mario characters for the next 30 years and the different one is stuck in one game. I personally liked Mallow a lot as a kid.
The character appears to appeal to people who are the edgy teenager type.
In other words it's mostly people who had a system before the N64 as a kid and then they saw this character as some super edgy muchure character and applied all of their teenage rebellion bullshit to it.
Imagine how bad it would be if people actually bothered buying Nintendo's knock off PCs. Surely saved us from an onslaught that this wasn't a handheld game.
smash bros autism, that’s it. it comes from an ancient-ass interview with sakurai where he said he considered adding geno to smash
Geno is a cool character in the game. It's a fun Toy Story type of concept. His abilities were pretty awesome to see too.
Personally I'm surprised Mallow isn't more well loved. He's my favorite Mario character that never gets seen again. Probably because of his SquareSoft origin I expect. He was a flawed hero that had some unique abilities.
>Geno is a cool character in the game
in battle, sure. but out of battle he doesn't really do anything except ramble on about star road.
Toy Story is a good comparison GenoBro!
The reason no one likes mellow is because he fricking sucked
Everyone used Mario and geno. Usually peach but sometimes browser just because he's cool.
you've made the same exact post three times now and you keep getting the same responses
>he's cool
>he does big damage
>he represents smrpg alongside mallow
as to why there's autims like the guy drawing geno daily, keep in mind that smrpg had been stuck in the snes for 27 years, with only vc re-releases and shitty mii costumes since both companies refused to bring the characters back
I mean yeah, why bring a character back when you only have to pay royalties to the other company?
its a game that is dear to many, many people's hearts despite all the fatasses here parroting the same "haha its just smashhomosexualry" point other morons have said before.
people ask for characters in smash BECAUSE they love the games the characters come from, with other people joining the "campaigning" done by actual fans of the character because they found him cool, too.
i had several friends also sending ballot votes back in 2015 even when they never played smrpg, because they found him cool looking
simple
stop trying to understand autism and why people like the stuff they do
id really like to see that sakurai interview because it sounds like he literally just said "i thought about putting geno in it once" and it infected a certain genre of autist's brains forever like a mind virus
That interview came out after Geno got the mii costume in 4. Geno was a popular smash pick before that, the interview was just vindication really.
Ahh good times in Smash Kingdom where Geno was shit talking Pit saying nobody knows or likes shitty games like Kid Icarus. And this was before Uprising.
Better than Bandana Dee homosexuals (BDF)
No? Bandana Dee is the logical fourth choice for a Kirby character, like Toad for Mario.
he's got access to portable ballistic weaponry which is fresh since only the kongs and that one bullet bill sniper from superstar saga have that kind of tech
probably the closest thing the mario universe has to a holy paladin type character-wise
that said I don't particularly care for him myself so maybe I'm also missing something
>bullet bill sniper
What the frick. How didn't I remember this enemy?
I mean, he’s more prominent but I think Shadow is the most reasonable comparison and it makes sense
Geno is epic, look at how he make contrarians screech
The "Geno fanbase" is a giant meta LARP done by SMRPG fans. This npc obsesses over his literal who wooden puppet and it pisses Mario off, much like how Geno fans piss off everyone for championing him over more popular characters.
>e celebs who wanted him in smash cried of joy when the remake was revealed
you gays need to understand people wanted him in smash because they also wanted smrpg to be relevant again, since getting a spot in smash almost always ends up in the series or game the character is from to be revived in some way
oh you mean like how they also are HUGE fans of final fantasy 7!
>VII intro
>what is this? who is this?
>cloud appears
>OH MY HECKIN SAKURAI, IT'S FREAKIN' CLOUUUDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!
most nintendo fans at that point had never touched ff7 in their lives
probably because it was a ps1 exclusive
and?
I mean you are kinda right, that is why I wanted Isaac.
He's not an AMAZING character, doesn't have that many lines or anything, but he has a cool design, and is fairly useful in combat, I'd say it's mostly because people wanted Mario RPG to be relevant again, and out of the two main characters I guess Geno is more fit for something like Smash than Mallow, so they started shilling him hard.
The whole fixation on Geno is less about the character himself and moreso about their love of SMRPG. (Not that people hate Geno, mind you) SMRPG is kind of an anomaly. Despite being a pretty solid RPG with a lot of charm that sold pretty well back in the day, it never really found itself being as fondly remembered as Paper Mario or the Mario & Luigi games. This is mainly for three reasons:
1 - It released at the tail-end of the SNES's life cycle. By this point most people's focus was on the shiny new 3D consoles, so most people wouldn't think twice about it compared to Super Mario 64 or anything on the PlayStation
2 - The internet hadn't taken off quite yet. Back then, most people's exposure to new games was limited to gaming magazines and whatever their friends were playing which, again, leaned towards the new 3D games
3 - When the internet did eventually take off and emulators became more widespread, the only people who would use them to play something like SMRPG were stinky fricking nerds. Most casual gamers/internet users simply couldn't get into something like that, their focus was on different shit like Neopets, AdventureQuest or the numerous Newgrounds flash games like Ghost Hotel or Sonic the Pervert
As a result, the only people who played SMRPG were weirdos and college students who fell in love with the game's wacky atmosphere and simple mechanics, and since they had access to the burgeoning internet they were able to share their love of the game with like-minded peers, forming a cult following around the game. This resulted in them expressing their love in the form of fanart and numerous flash animations, such as the many Smash skit compilations and, of course, Rawest Forest
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This was also around the time when Smash Bros. had taken the world by storm. Melee was a massive hit, so expectations were high for the new game. "Which characters were getting in this time?", "Are there any hints towards who we're getting next?". Brawl speculation was a wild time. As such, plenty of people who loved SMRPG would desire a character from there to get in
Of all the characters, Geno was considered the most likely SMRPG character to make it in. This was because Smash games tend to gravitate towards main characters above all others, and for good reason. Most players are likely to be familar with them on account of them being playable, and they're often given lots of cool skills and abilities that are ideal for a game like Smash. Since Mario, Peach and Bowser are already in and Mallow is a weenie, Geno was the only good option. Plus, he's pretty cool
And so the campaigning began. Much like other Smash fanbases at the time, the Geno fans began to advertise their chosen champion. Days upon days of forum posting, fanart production, even real life letters and petitions sent directly to... some random intern at Nintendo of America, probably. They kept this up until the bitter, yet expected, end.
But while many Smash fanbases would throw in the towel, the Geno fans remained devoted to their puppet. This was because they got the one thing that only select Smash fanbases have ever received: validation.
In an interview sometime after Brawl's release, Sakurai revealed that he had wanted to include Geno as a fighter in Brawl, but ultimately it didn't pan out. To say this galvanized Geno supporters was an understatement, and while they didn't get Geno for Brawl, they wouldn't give up. They'd be back for the next game, ready to shout louder and campaign harder
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Now at this point you may be wondering:
>What the hell's so important about Smash? I mean sure, it's a cool game, but at the end of the day it's just a game. Why waste so much time on this?
While most people don't want to admit it, Smash's main appeal is its roster. Who gets in and who doesn't is the primary focus of discussion for all Smash fans. No one ever has this level of fervor for Stages, Trophies or, god forbid, Assist Trophies or Mii Costumes, it's all the characters. But why is that?
Because characters are the most important aspect of our stories. They can make us laugh, make us cry, make us angry beyond all comprehension, or relieve us of our negative emotions. They are conduits for which we can experience all manner of fun and frights. We watch them struggle, we watch them fall, but we also watch them rise above all trials and personal hangups to become better than they were before. In them, we can believe ourselves capable of overcoming our own problems
Smash has managed to assemble a large collection of these characters together, so much so that it's considered something of a who's who of video games, a veritable Video Game Hall of Fame. If your character is playable in this game, then they matter, the series the comes from matters, your nostalgia matters. Your love of some silly game from the mid-to-late 90s that most people overlooked now matters. But most importantly, you are now able to once again connect with that silly game through them
A Trophy/Spirit offers nothing that you can't already get from looking at official art on the internet. A Mii Costume is a perverse facsimile of what you love, just another picture on a teenage wall. An Assist Trophy feels like a Monkey's Paw: you got to see the characters you love again, but you're denied the catharsis of truly connecting with them. The game connects with them while you sit in your proverbial chair and watch
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Playable status, on the other hand, allows you to best connect with your character and their world. Their movements are your movements, their attacks are your attacks. Their victory and losses are yours. It doesn't matter what you can even do with them in the game, so long as there's something you can do and you can do it with them
But of course, it doesn't entirely end there. If your character gets into Smash and is cemented as one of gaming's greats, then that can also potentially translate into more. More games, more stories, more acknowledgement. Your chosen character can live on in their new adventures and always be with you
It sounds incredibly gay, but it's true, and it extends to pretty much all Smash fanbases, whether you want to believe it or not. Smash is a nostalgia bukkake, and everyone wants their turn to be a part of it, to feel that sweet, sweet dopamine rush that come from nostalgia validation. Geno supporters haven't gotten that yet, but getting a remake of SMRPG is the next best thing, and arguably better since Smash has been in decline these last few years for a variety of reasons
TL;DR, Genogays want Geno in Smash so they can get more SMRPG and get high on their nostalgia
I'd say the Mario RPG Remake was a better outcome than Geno getting in Smash, I've been a Banjogay for a long time, and while I appreciate his inclusion, I think most of us would've been happier with Banjo getting a brand new game lmao.
>remake
>brand new game
These are not the same.
Sure, but I think regardless of that, they still got something new besides Smash, which honestly is a better outcome than just being added into this platform fighting game, like I would even appreciate a Banjo-Kazooie remake, just literally anything that isn't Smash.
Tl;dr
Mallow > Geno
The Mario RPGs are an autism magnet for some reason. I do wish the PM64 cast returned tho. Top tier designs all around, and simple enough to not trigger Miyamoto.
because he's 'rare' and allows them to mentally sort out people who know who he is, and people who don't know who he is. he's a threshold for the tism.
I don't even particularly care for Geno, but it's disingenious to liken him to Glyde of all characters. It's plain to see why people like him. He's a mystical entity with guns for arms and transforms into cannons and shit.
Yo Anon!
Does anyone consider Shade the Echidna as the Geno of Sega/Sonic?
Would you like a Sonic Chronicles Remake? Frick that Pender bastard
Interesting that they're also both from the first RPGs of their respective series
I consider Infinite to be the Geno, even though he's not from an RPG.
>people are super into geno specifically
he was just a cool character. a little mysterious/ambiguous on top of that. thats it. nobody really has anything more or special to say than that. so this "people are super into him" thing doesnt even exist because you're blowing it out of proportion.
you DO see it in other things, like boba fett. like zylo from shining force. like sarge from halo (although he is a much bigger character, he's still secondary). zack from ff7 (before they started making spinoffs for him). malon and saria from OoT. the list goes on and on.
And to add on to this people really like Lyn from Fire Emblem, despite FE7 focusing more on Eliwood and Hector while Lyn is the third wheel lol
I’m so glad this remake exists!
He’s come a long way!
Genuinely can't wait for Geno-gays to get buttmad when people play the SMRPG remake and discover that Geno is a nothing character.
People mainly liked him because he was overpowered. Unless they tweak the balance they will still like him.
>geno was the baby-mode character in baby's first RPG
Damn. That makes it even worse.
babby mode was peach moron
True but peach was a woman and no one likes them except as a penis receptacle.
>can't wait for geno to be deconfirmed
>can't wait for smrpg to not be added to nso
>can't wait for smrpg to be irrelevant forever
>can't wait for people to play the remake, and hate geno
you Black folk will always find something new to screech about
admit it, geno and mallow are back and are here to stay
>smrpg-gays are so desperate for notoriety that they're actually acknowledging Mallow's existence like its something to give a shit about
Damn. That's genuinely sadder than TYD-gays whenever they're forced to acknowledge the existence of Super Paper Mario.
>and are here to stay
Hah.
Cry about it
People just like te edge I mean this guy died in his first appearance and jobbed in the next two games but still got his own spin off just because he looked and acted sharp Boba Fett is another more popular example
IDK, why do people care about Super Mario RPG at all? No one played it when it came out, and it's not that great of an RPG itself. Even the story is just meh. Paper Mario and the thousand year door blows it the frick away.
It is absolutely autistim-related
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fricking merimutts I swear
they fighting over which fast food resturant is better, denny's or ihop and they fight it over a melee tournament and the loser has to eat at their winner's resturant
did that grow ass man started crying over geno being decomfirmed?
I remember people obsessing over Geno on Lemmy's Land way before Smash Bros hype put a spotlight on him. He's just a cool little puppet dude with a gun in a series that skews more towards cute and wacky characters (and even then he's cute and wacky in his own way). It's only natural that he'd be super popular.
it's probably because he's a Mario character but slightly more "cool" and "serious" than the average Mario character, a bit closer to Sonic
Yeah people like when Mario characters are less goofy and more cool like lady bow and bobbery.
Bobby was cool and he was just an amnesiac Bom-omb its missing fuse.
Smashgays are annoying as frick. They don't even play the games of the characters they're such diehard fans of.
Why does everyone automatically think fans of certain characters never played their games? Is this some sort of cope?
People that b***h about this shit aren’t any less annoying than Smash fans.
One would argue that if the ones asking for the most requested character in one of the most famous franchises in the world have actually played its game this one would be more popular.
Geno is popular, not SMRPG.
Also Mallow is cooler and has an actual arc
The game was never that popular. He's been in a lot of cartoons and shit online. His "fans" number one reason for wanting him in Smash is "he looks cool".
Cool design
Fun concept
Well executed
Simple as
You guys forget that Super Mario RPG is a SNES game, as in a console you could emulate in the 90s, millions and millions of people have played it without adding to any sales numbers
>assuming millions and millions of people emulate
>assuming everyone who emulates played SMRPG
>assuming everyone that booted it up made it to puppet
Those are all safe assumptions to make
>assuming "everyone" does anything
>twice
Look at the most basic achievements on Steam. I'm talking "beat chapter one", "finish the tutorial", and still only 10% of players actually do them. What SMRPG has is an EXTREMELY vocal tiny fan base.
Sounds like Steamies just like to buy games on sale for pennies and hoard them, lowering the achievement rates
Or most of puppet's "fans" are bandwagon babies who don't actually play his one mediocre game.
cope I played the game for years now cry more
my friends and i played it on our psp's back then
>mfw Ganker will never recover from this
three threads now since the remake has been announced of pure coping and goalpost moving
>powerful
>brave
>naked badass puppet
>Geno whirl
>9999
He is not just a side character.
the puppet that broke Ganker
When the game first came out, the previous mario games were super mario world, where bowser is the final boss, and yoshi's island, where baby bowser is the final boss. Not many people were spoiled about the game not having bowser as the final boss. So, believe it or not, many mario fans were surprised and shocked at the start of the game, being some unknown sword thing takes over bowser's castle and is the new villain. As for Geno, in his very first appearance, his literal toy form knocks mario out, and after coming to life he tries to fight a boss all by himself. Mallow's first appearance defined him as a coward, but not this guy. Also, he has guns, in a mario game, he just seemed really different and unique for an ally in a mario game, plus he seemingly came from beyond the stars. Look if you can't see why that's enough to make him stand out, I dunno what else I can say.
I wonder if you'll be able to take Mario out of the party this time around.
What I don't get is people being excited for a remake.
Glyde’s a bad example ‘cause he may as well not exist and Chip isn’t even playable
A better example would be if people were SUPER into Irvine from FF8 or Yangus from DQ8
it was a gameFAQs and smashboards autism deal during brawl's hype season that got way out of hand
What's really strange is that Geno isn't even a character. It's a lifeless doll possessed by a star warrior. By the end of the game Geno is nothing but an object again. How would you even bring back such a character.
Have the same spirit come back and possess something else.
I've thought about this before, and I imagined him possessing a statue of a horse in the middle of a town in the Mushroom Kingdom, which Mario rides upon as his trusty steed
You sound like a gay furry. Are you a gay furry?
I don't want to frick horse Geno, I just like the thought of Mario being a knight and him having a steed, I even imagined him wielding a hammer with a sword at the end
>I just like the thought of Mario being a knight and him having a steed, I even imagined him wielding a hammer with a sword at the end
Super Mario RPG was originally going to have Mario dressed as a knight riding a horse and wielding a sword. They let Japanese fans decide if they wanted that or Mario using a hammer with more traditional series elements instead. Obviously the crowd chose the latter.
Gaz's mom gets taken by the big bad or some henchmen, he wishes geno would come back and save her, the cloud kingdom receives a letter from notifying them of an oncoming threat, and mallow takes it personally, have Geno be the first party member who joins, and Mallow the second, easy as that.
DUDE GENO COULD BE BROKEN LIKE MAYBE HIS WOOD IS SPLINTERING AND HE'S MISSING AN EYE AND HE HAS TO HAVE SOME ROBOT PARTS FROM SMITHY CAUSE THEN HE COULD LOOK EVEN COOLER THAN COOLER THAN COOLEST
EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!
Everyone who plays the game understands that Geno is just a star dude possessing the puppet body. That's partly why people like him. The body is left behind so it's not like he couldn't just repossess that body.
I really have no clue. I'm a massive fan of the game and considered Paper Mario a complete letdown when it came out because it wasn't SMRPG2. At no point ever did I give more than a passing shit about Geno. All he was was the less useless of the two buttholes nobody cared about. Mario/Peach/Bowser was the party and there was no deviation from this except when the story forced it. I wasn't even aware there was a rabid fanbase for him until the Smash Bros kvetching really kicked in during Japan Time.
Childhood was adoring Geno. Adulthood is realizing he's a lame wooden toy mage, and Mellow is the cooler one.
Geno is the better teammate and could totally beat up Mallow.
GENO FAN EXCITED TO PLAY SUPER MARIO RPG FOR THE FIRST TIME
He's just cool, he has guns in his hands
I only wanted Geno because Super Mario RPG is a soulful game with legendary music. Getting Geno meant I would get a beautiful stage reimagining this game in HD in addition to an amazing rendition of Beware the Forest's Mushrooms by Yoko Shimomura. I am more than satisfied by the remake and I'll be fine with Geno never getting in Smash now, I simply thought this was the only path to get my small wishes. However, I do believe Geno is a 100% lock for Smash 6 with this remake being a thing now.
I never listen to this board for opinions on Mario RPG’s because I’ve discovered almost everyone is a moron who pretends to know more than they actually do, yet continues to go on and on.
Geno he shot gun and fire laser beams and not afraid of anything.
Millenials were were in the 7-11 age range thought that was rad as hell. I sure in the hell did when I played it back in 1996. Kind of sad that the Smash fanbase ruined what could have been a cultural niche icon.
His Smash fans are the reason the remake is happening.
things like this make me realize when I just don’t care about some things other people care about. I want to yell at all you Geno fans but really it’s just me not having played SMRPG and not feeling it, not really your fault
I don't know if any of y'all actually played Super Mario RPG back in the day but Geno was a sick fricking party member
he's cool
What do you think Geno actually looks like?
He go SCHÜT and I clap