Why are happy endings so rare in JRPGs?
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Why are happy endings so rare in JRPGs?
Why are happy endings so rare in JRPGs?
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Japs are obsessed with cuckoldry. Hell, the game you posted even baits it in a skit about the main heroine and main villain.
>"What? It's not like we weren't all thinking it."
Based realist Law. Any real random man would've obliterated Shion's hymen by the time the party reached her. They were lucky the main villain is an actual literal homosexual.
Shitmerican not projecting challenge, impossible.
I thought this was Thancred and Ryne for a second there.
JRPGs are Japan's love-letter to the West, which is doomed, and they subconsciously intuit this, resulting in tragic endings.
Rex from Xenoblade 2 got a pretty solid happy ending. Fricker got 3 top tier wives.
And then his planet got destroyed and he got separated from all of them before having to sacrifice his life so that just one of his daughters could live a relatively normal life.
And then it was all undone by some tard horny for catgirl pussy, giving everyone from the first two games their happy endings back.
Yeah but was it really? Pyra and Mythra's fates are still unclear. Rex still gave up his lifeforce for Glimmer, but she's been dead for hundreds of years. And we're still not even sure what happened to his third kid.
Everything that happened in Aionios was completely undone once it was destroyed with only some vague memories or feelings of what happened there remaining in the people who actually incarnated into it. All of them are right back to where they were before the worlds collided.
That sounds reasonable, but source?
>Source
The game? You can outright see it in the first and final scenes of the game.
>game opens with little Noah going to play with his friends before time starts distorting and the worlds collide
>game ends with time resuming for little Noah as if nothing had happened except he now has a weird fascination for catgirls for some reason
XC3 was one of those dumb "it was all a dream, except not really" endings.
Did I miss a scene or something? The game ends with Noah and co running and trying to reach each other, then the worlds separating. Then FR ends with the implication that the worlds reunited, but nothing concrete was shown about the state of the new world.
You skipped the credits, didn't you? There's a post-credit scene showing what I had described.
God damn it! I watched the credits for like 5 minutes before finally giving up and assuming that skipping them would bring me straight to any post-credit scene!
Thanks for the heads up.
After watching it, it's almost worse than the original ending.
And then Noah and Mio retconned everything that happened inside Aionios so for Rex and Shulk it was just a brief bad dream while the planets got fused and Rex is about to deal with Mio's teenage pregnancy soon.
None of that happened though. Aionis was undone like waking from a dream- the worlds merged, and Rex was with his family.
Sometimes they have happy endings
what game
Astlibra Revision
>the entire game is basically MC saying "frick NO we're not having some downer ending even if i have to retcon the last 8 years and do it all over again"
I played an NTR game like that- the MC rewinding over and over again until he could prevent himself getting cucked, got a good happy ending with the oblivious, virgin FMC
The amount of suffering throughout the entire game made the true ending feel so good.
cuz sad ones leave a longer lasting impact
happy endings that have no sadness whatsoever just feel like they're telling you
"everything's happy and shit. yay. frick off now"
>cuz sad ones leave a longer lasting impact
Not when they're so overused at this point. Tales of Arise ending stuck out because it was a happily ever after ending. The ending for FF16 will be forgotten in a month because it's your generic "muh bittersweet" ending.
Arise killed Tales threads with how boring it was and nobody talks about it any more aside from people like you pretending the ending was good.
Damn you homosexuals are still seething about Arise huh? Go run back to your hugbox on vrpg.
The plot is shitty and generic, the writing in general is shit(soulless skits, shit party with no chemistry), and the combat is shit. Arise is shit simple as. It speaks volumes that the only positive thing its fans ever say about it is "but it had a happy ending".
It skipped switch so tendies made sure tales of threads would die
Good. Arise is gorgeous. Definitely not for piece of shit hardware
I am sort of hoping that Beyond the Dawn ends up being a enhanced rerelease that also releases on the Switch's successor system (although an anime would be fine too), assuming that trademark actually ends up being something not scrapped.
The ending was great
Also best fishing minigame
What killed the Tales threads is the amount of Berseria/Zestiria newhomosexuals salty that their shit games got forgotten
Arise has its own issues, but it's far better than 90% of the shit the series was churning out in the last decade, aside from Hearts R, maybe.
>Arise has its own issues, but it's far better than 90% of the shit the series was churning out in the last decade, aside from Hearts R, maybe.
It’s really not. It’s just as shit as Zestiria and Berseria and you’re a homosexual for thinking otherwise.
I liked how it played but it's story was mid and even the main character is bland and has the defining personality trait of
>"I am good guy"
Give me more characters like velvet and Yuri
Alphen's defining trait is how much he wants to get balls deep inside Shionne which makes him far better than asexual hypocrite Yuri
Not as good as Shing though, who was even hornier
Yuri literally can't stop starting at Judy's breasts
Yet they almost stop interacting after the dungeon she's introduced at
They interact more after it's revealed she's the dragon rider but half of the scenes she's in after the dungeon are her destroying cores while Yuri pretends not to notice.
Arise saved the series, autists can keep seething
What do you mean killed? They were already dead, then the game brought them back for a time.
>Not when they're so overused at this point.
They were "overused" for a millenia, they're timeless. Arise's ending will never be memorable in the way something like Abyss's ending was.
For real I hate all these fricking JRPGs and their "bittersweet" ending thinking that they are somehow more complex or memorable.
Nah, bro, just let the characters that I have spent dozens of hours playing with have a nice ending, instead of ambiguous shit.
Writers want to be prove they are different than the rest
Turn out they all make the same bitter ending like everyone else
some of us just rike sad and bittersweet endings
Grandia 1, Lunar 1 and 2.
good games
>Arise fans can only talk about the happy ending and romance instead of literally anything else
Kind of says a lot, really.
Maybe because this entire thread is about JRPG endings in general? Why do you homosexuals have such a victim complex when it comes to Arise? Go make another thread or go back to your dead thread on /vrpg/ if you want to cry about Arise.
>starts the thread with arise
>won't shut up about how great arise is
>has a meltdown and starts samegayging when others say arise isn't that great
>accuses other of having a victim complex
I know this isn't the first time you've made this thread.
>seething this hard over someone not liking the game
Absolute state
What malding do you see?
Stop malding about this game for like 5 seconds. Not even healthy at this point.
I mean, what else is there to talk about? The awful combat? The lackluster story and themes? The hilariously awful character writing?
>Thread about a specific topic or ship for av game that's been out for years
>Some absolute homosexual comes in to seethe "WhY aReN't YoU tAlKiNg aBoUt tHe GaMePlAy" as if it hasn't already been discussed to completion
Every single goddamn time
>only talk about the happy ending and romance instead of literally anything else
They can talk about other things, but things aside from the happy ending aren't the topic of this thread now are they, you moron?
Stick to shit like Dragon Quest, pleb.
Because they don't leave a lasting impact like bittersweet ones do.
The problem with this is that writers will force a bittersweet ending in their work that comes out of nowhere and clashes thematically with the rest of the story in an attempt to make the story more memorable.
play jrpgs for females aged 14-30 if you want happy endings
give 5
unlimited saga
etrian odyssey untold
yggdra union gba
thracia 776
smt if...
Atelier 1 to 45
not ryza THO. thats for stinky b*ys
most of them have happy endings
What? Do JRPGs not get happy endings all the time?
japs are enamored with the classic plot structure of a drama. the final act of a play is supposed to be the "catastrophe" when story ends by the hero meeting some dark fall.
1. Exposition
2. Rising Action
3. Climax
4. Falling Action
5. Catastrophe
>he doesn't know
Being a Japanese vidya character is suffering.
They aren't though. Most of them have happy ends.
Tales of Arise was a very average game, but at least they had a fricking ending that was mostly conclusive and didn't do some fricking annoying ambiguous bullshit. They save the world, they get married, and then they throw a fricking party. Based ending.
Meanwhile every other JRPG is doing everything they can to end not only bittersweet, but also ending in a way where you don't really know what happened and it's left to interpretation because the writer was too lazy to write a fricking ending. Frick you.
Sounds to me that you need to play more JRPGs.
I don agree with your point, many jrpgs have conclusion but the ones that are ambiguous most often are this way because they want to make sequel
Reminder :
- Tales of Symphonia = Kratos or Zelos Sacrified Himself
- Tales of Abyss = Like Sacrified Himself
- Tales Of Xillia = Milla Sacrified Herself
- Tales Of Xillia 2 = Ludger Sacrified Himself for the canon ending
- Tales Of Graces = Sophie Sacrified Herself (?)
- Tales Of Zestiria = Sorey Sacrified Himself
- Tales Of Berseria = Velvet Sacrified Herself
Jesus christ this series had a boner of killing characters for """"""""Shock Value"""""""""
They even did the same with the Gacha too like Crestoria..... Except Rays, all of the characters has good ending. and Rays is the most successfull gacha in Tales series
No wonder Tales is DEAD.
The world is already a bad ending already. Gives us some escapism.
To add to that:
- Tales of Destiny = Stahn sacrificed himself spilled his guts on the ground a few years later after the game while his family just watched helpessly
- Tales of Destiny 2 = Reala Sacrificed herself and everything got reset, rendering the entire journey pointless
This is why i appreciate Arise Ending.
Sure the story was generic JRPGs but the ending is a positive change
Its a bittersweet ending which Japs have a massive boner with it. I want fully good satisfying ending.
>Its a bittersweet ending which Japs have a massive boner with it.
It's only bittersweet if you take Asch's life into account but his character arc was complete. Luke and Tear got their happy end.
Not really satisfying.
>Reala Sacrificed herself and everything got reset, rendering the entire journey pointless
But Stahn isn't dead anymore?
Luke got fused with Asch reformed two years later
Since the fusion wields his sword like Luke, his personality is dominant
>Tales Of Graces = Sophie Sacrified Herself (?)
she literally didn't though? has anyone here played Graces to completion??
>Kratos Sacrified Himself
He didn't though. He goes off on a big space adventure, there's even a cameo with him in Tales 2.
Almost every single Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy ends exactly like that (some exceptions but they're the minority). So does Xenoblade 1 and 2, and 3 implies pretty much the same with FR.
There's no lack of happy endings.
Cute :3
It's been at least 20 years since I played this. I don't remember if it was possible to save the girl and have a happy ending. I remember being forced to kill her in one route because she turned into zombie or whatever.
If your only requirement for liking an ending is whether it's 100% happy or not you're literally braindead. Arise's ending was fricking dreadful. Asspull a villain back to life, make Alphen a complete moron and let him have the macguffin he literally needs to save both the world and his wife, and for what? So they can asspull a spirit bomb from Dahna to just end it all hunky dory anyways.
If I wanted to put a few dozen hours of effort into something just to be disappointed I'd go outside.
Sounds like you need to fix your life.
My point is that if you weren't disappointed by Arise's ending, your priorities aren't right. You're giving them points for fighting against a made-up wave and not taking any away for it being written terribly.
Not that anon but
>Expecting a GOOD WRITING from Shonencrap
Lol. This is why i appreciate Good ending no matter how shit the story is. Shonencrap always have bittersweet endings, frick that crap
I wish I was cool enough to be a Tales fan that says Arise has a bad story while pretending every single other game in the series doesn't also have a terrible story
If you think Arise and say Symphonia are even close in quality, you either didn't play them or you're lying through your teeth.
He should never lose his helmet.
>rare
????
>an alcoholic gypsy worming her way into a royal family
One of the biggest winners EVER
So it can be extra happy when it happens.
Edna's oni-chan died so she can frick someone else freely ! Starting with Mikleo and Zaveid.... Or both !
SEX WITH EDNA
>Persona 1: Happy ending
>Persona 2: Downer ending
>Persona 3: Bitter-sweet ending
>Persona 4: Ultra Happy ending
>Persona 5: Happy ending
Feel like FF16 and Arise are the only last japanese games that focused on romance
Xenoblade 3
FF16's romance arc is pretty cute, although the ending is too ambiguous for my liking
Same, Arise and FF16 are not perfect gameplaywise but I'm liking the romance a lot
>Jill just got reunited with Clive
>already tries to make a move but Clive is too obsessed with killing himself to notice
>overcorrects it later
>a german with a cuck fetish creates "j"rpg
>gives it an ending so dogshit it eclipses anything actual japs has ever done
how bad is it
Does the c**t blondie with bow frick his princess in the end?
I'm at the 4th lord area when does it end?
You're not even half way yet.
Does it get better?
I mean, I thought it was decent throughout. Though I'm 100% certain you are gonna get sick of the 4th lord really quick
Better question.
>Why does it never directly say that the Sincleaver stuff was Alphen's stuff from way back when it heavily implies it is and that he was the hero who wore it?
He couldn't have been the hero though. Alphen wasn't a hero before he crash landed and when he crash landed he had no recollection of who he was.
He was originally a knight who got captured by the Renans. Frick he straight up says he is extremely familiar with the gear but doesn't know why.
I don't think he would have had time to play hero of justice in between everything blowing up., Being sent to the planet and being taken in as a slave, it's been a while since I played arise but I thought it was pretty much implied that he became a slave the same year he was sent to the planet
Anon. Alphen is from around when the Renan's invaded. They grabbed him and made him become the Sovereign and then shit happened and he was in stasis for 300yrs
American can't handle bittersweet ending. They need to have their Disney ending.
Imagine liking this pairing. Those two are extremely toxic to each other
You never played past Calaglia did you?
Because happy endings are garbage. Bittersweet endings are top tier.
Edna saved Tales
Segs
While the West has "The Heroes Journey", Japan has their own structure of story telling tropes that largely goes back to Kabuki theater centuries ago.
A big Japanese cliche there is a sudden plot twist that usually happens after the plot should have been resolved? Beat the antagonist? The mysterious moody party member suddenly stabs the protagonist's love interest through the heart.
Beat the antagonist and set-up the perfect happy ending? The antagonist's last remaining henchman reveals he's going to blow up the world so the protagonist sacrifices his life to save everything.
That kind of shit.
>A big Japanese cliche there is a sudden plot twist that usually happens after the plot should have been resolved
This is Scouring of the Shire though
he didn't feel earned at all.
Man Arise sucked. What’s up with jrpgs completely botching the final act this generation? Xenoblade and FF also did it
Slipping up on the final act is unfortunate, but it doesn't ruin the whole game(s) for me. It's not like it overwrites the rest of those game which were good.
It's hard to write a good conclusion when you're limited by being a video game where the player characters inevitably have to "boss fight" and defeat the villains. Video games are just a shit medium for storytelling. Even something like the tournament arc in Hero Academia has a more complex story than what JRPGs can do, which is why I've always been confused by storygays existing on Ganker
>It's hard to write a good conclusion when you're limited by being a video game
Anime endings have gone down the drain too.
In Xenoblade 3's case, it's literally because COVID fricked over the last stretch of the game's development/story.
The final act fricking sucked save for for the 10 minutes after the final boss.