Why are legendary/mythical Pokemon so fricking lame now? For as flawed as SM were, even they had some cool legendaries

Why are legendary/mythical Pokemon so fricking lame now?
For as flawed as SM were, even they had some cool legendaries

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KoMirai are among the best

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now
    >SV introduced the best Mythical
    What did opee mean by this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What if Cosmog was a peach
      >best
      No

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What if Pokemon version of classic folktale but subverted; with a proper personality and motivations to go with a neat backstory which directly ties him to several other legendaries and even has beef with one of them, and not only is he responsible for setting the events of TM into motion and thus the DLC as a whole, but is also the protagonist of its closing chapter
        >best
        Yes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That sure is a pretentious way of saying it's boring and shoehorned into the plot

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you'd rather have more giftmons conceived solely as tie-ins to movies nobody watched, who are lucky to get a single line of lore from random nameless NPCs, is that what you're trying to say, anon?

            Speaking of Chinese culture, it kinda pisses me off SV's legendaries are ALL based on Chinese/Japanese lore, fricking all of them. Which is just another sin of SV, but honestly, why even have it be based on Spain if you're not going to do shit with it?

            Admittedly this used to be a gripe of mine too but the SV legendaries are fantastic and by far the best out of any modern Pokemon game so what can I do but kneel. That said though, I still wish we got more overtly Spanish mons beyond the obligatory black Tauros and early route mons (though I do like Smoliv a lot). Like how do a Spain region without a Don Quijote mon, come on now.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >So you'd rather have more giftmons conceived solely as tie-ins to movies nobody watched, who are lucky to get a single line of lore from random nameless NPCs, is that what you're trying to say, anon?
              i just want a good design idgaf about the lore

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                such as

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >So you'd rather have more giftmons conceived solely as tie-ins to movies nobody watched, who are lucky to get a single line of lore from random nameless NPCs, is that what you're trying to say, anon?
              No, but I am saying the fricking thing is boring and has no reason to exist

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So you'd rather have more giftmons conceived solely as tie-ins to movies nobody watched, who are lucky to get a single line of lore from random nameless NPCs, is that what you're trying to say, anon?
            No, but I am saying the fricking thing is boring and has no reason to exist

            How the frick is it shoehorned when it's there from the start and constantly teased and alluded to all throughout DLC1 and less so DLC2. Do you know what shoehorned means?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Um ackshully, it had references, so that means it's actually a good legendary and fit the story despite it having nothing to do with besides the first half of the DLC, but not being revealed until later.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yup. Pleasure arguing with you, glad we've reached an agreement.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What if
          Stopped reading.
          Mochi mochi.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >now
          >SV introduced the best Mythical
          What did opee mean by this?

          Nobody cares about this ugly, ambiguous, object turnermon. At I least I can tell terapagos is a gem turtle monster.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >blaming every shitmon design on muh turner boogeyman for the past 20 years
            does he even still work on the games

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no but he freelances some designs
              he made Tatsugiri which /vp/ loved until they found out he made it, just like they abandoned Centiskorch when it was revealed he made it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's based on Momotaro, mouthbreathing moron. Your uneducated ass isn't familiar with the tale so apparently you have to cope and blame it all on le Turner boogeyman again. And I can 100% guarantee you that the fricking gaijin didn't have anything to do with the design.
            Also how fricking dumb do you even have to be to call a peach an object?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          holy based and redpilled, everyone seething is just gay

    • 3 weeks ago
      DoctorGreen

      no

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What if Pokemon version of classic folktale but subverted; with a proper personality and motivations to go with a neat backstory which directly ties him to several other legendaries and even has beef with one of them, and not only is he responsible for setting the events of TM into motion and thus the DLC as a whole, but is also the protagonist of its closing chapter
      >best
      Yes

      I legit forgot this thing existed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone did

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          Nobody cares about this ugly, ambiguous, object turnermon. At I least I can tell terapagos is a gem turtle monster.

          >people still making art of it
          >people still making AUs of Kieran being controlled by it
          Get off the computer Ogerpon, you've seethed enough for one day.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ew

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Teal mask mons were scrapped PLA DLC.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I believe it

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >skipped Gens 8 and 9 and just found out they made a fourth genie
    Why? Who asked for this thing?
    >Thunder
    >Tornado
    >Land
    >Love
    It doesn't even fit in with the rest.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, Landorus is the god of fertility of plants "..Landorus arrives to quell the conflict. After the tempests and thunderbolts abate, the land is sure to be blessed with bountiful harvests". Enamourus is the goddess of fertility of animals "When it flies to this land from across the sea, the bitter winter comes to an end. According to legend, this Pokémon's love gives rise to the budding of fresh life across Hisui".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because they're based on a part of chinese culture, some people even thought Arceus would have a turtle form since it was the games' namesake

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Speaking of Chinese culture, it kinda pisses me off SV's legendaries are ALL based on Chinese/Japanese lore, fricking all of them. Which is just another sin of SV, but honestly, why even have it be based on Spain if you're not going to do shit with it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you will take your black tauros and you will like it anon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Terapagos is literally a galapagos turtle, it's not based on japanese lore (the academy of its DLC is, however, it's the tale of Urashima Taro). And Koraidon and Miraidon are based on Cyclizar which comes from Spain's automobilistic culture

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, Terapagos is based on Chinese depctions of turtles, and is literally a "black tortoise", which is a character in Chinese mythology
            And calling Koraidon and Miraidon based on "Spain automobile culture" is a real fricking stretch.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"chinese depictions of turtles"
              >posts just a turtle with nothing particulary in common with Terapagos
              >also implying pokemon aren't based on many stuff any way
              Not gonna make it bro, it's literally called "Terastal Galápagos"

              >a stretch
              The fricking pokemon centers are gas stops precisely for that and on top of Cyclizar there's also a car's engine pokemon and a proper, customized car using that pokemon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >posts just a turtle with nothing particulary in common with Terapagos
                Anon...
                >Not gonna make it bro, it's literally called "Terastal Galápagos"
                Yeah, the fricking name sure proves me despite it having nothing to do with the Galapagos islands at all. Nor does Terapagos look like a Galapogos tortise in the slightest, and said tortise has no mythlogy attached to it, because the Galapogos islands are inhabitated.

                You might as well say Groundon is based on Iguanodon because it has fricking "Don" in the name

                >The fricking pokemon centers are gas stops precisely for that and on top of Cyclizar there's also a car's engine pokemon and a proper, customized car using that pokemon
                Anon, it's a fricking motorcycle lizard. There's nothing about that's specfically referencing Spanish bike culture. Japan and Korea also use bikes and have a culture for them

                Even if that was the intent, that doesn't make it any less lame, or have viritually nothing to do with Spain because it can be applied anywhere.

                I think of Italy more than Spain when it comes to bikes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon...
                Yes? Nothing in Terapagos can be atributed to your previous pic but not to any random depiction of a turtle.

                >can't even spell Galapagos
                moron. Also iguanodon is just another creatured with the sujix -don, like Groudon. Groudon's name isn't based on iguanodon's in any way so your argument doesn't work.

                >b-but it's lame..!
                Don't care? I'm just saying it's the reason no matter the denial. It's like how Gholdengo thing is exploration and the finding of treasure based on Spain's history as explorers and colonizers, the whole game, story and many pokemon are based on the idea of being able to explore and discover like the old spaniards, hence the use of mobility pokemon as legendaries.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh mercy me, I misspelled the the name slightly, truly I am defeated.
                Frick you

                >Yes? Nothing in Terapagos can be atributed to your previous pic but not to any random depiction of a turtle.
                Anon, it's a fricking pottery depection of a turtle. That is more of what Terapagos is based on than a Galapagos tortise, which only has its name to tie it too.

                >Also iguanodon is just another creatured with the sujix -don, like Groudon. Groudon's name isn't based on iguanodon's in any way so your argument doesn't work
                moron. That was my point. Groundon doesn't ahve anything to Iguanodon besides the suffix and being dinosaurs, in the same way Terapagos has nothing to do with the Galapagos tortise besides referencing it in the name.

                >Don't care? I'm just saying it's the reason no matter the denial. It's like how Gholdengo thing is exploration and the finding of treasure based on Spain's history as explorers and colonizers, the whole game, story and many pokemon are based on the idea of being able to explore and discover like the old spaniards, hence the use of mobility pokemon as legendaries.
                Motherfricker, it's bikes. You can justify it up and down all day, but they're just bikes. There's nothing specfically about them that's tied to Spainish culture and saying the legendaries reflect that is a stretch and lame one at that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                TURTLES
                ALL
                THE
                WAY
                DOOOOOOWN

                I don't like them putting crystals in game that turns the freaking turtles gay!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Old legendary groups getting expanded out of nowhere is cool as shit, give me a new Tapu and more Regis while they're at it

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just fix her mouth and proportions and she's fine.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gens 4-6 were the dark ages for legendaries and 8 was bad too. Gen 9 was a massive step up with the treasures, oger, peach, and raidons.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SV literally has the best legendaries ever, they all have rocking music, cool lore, a quest based on them, neat designs and some media have character arcs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > lets slap a ponytail on jigglypuff and call it a new pokemon !!
      paradox mons were a mistake

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They weren't talking about the Paradoxes you dumb frick.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pokemon is a series for girls now so this thing was supposed to be a cute plushie seller, but they put all his lore in the anime and nobody is watching the anime because it's fricking horrible so oops nobody gives a shit about this failed shillmon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Terapagos is in a lose/lose situation because before Indigo Disk's release, they couldn't do too much with it there at risk of spoiling the DLC, but now it ALSO can't do too much in the game because that'd spoil the anime instead.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ? The anime is just doing it's own thing though.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bad new artist, bad design philosophy, (sugimori's fault) bad writing.
    new generation of people (zoomers) have no standards because there was no quality in their time.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SM had great mythicals Zeraora and Marshadow are cool as frick. My favorite psychic type is Hoopa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marshadow's cool. Zeraora could be a normal Pokemon like Lucario and no-one would know the difference.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Official Legendary/Mythical generation ratings list
    Gen 1: Classic for a reason
    Gen 2: Suicine and Lucia are great but the rest are kinda meh.
    Gen 3: Mix of good (box legends, Deoxys) bad (regis) and average (the rest)
    Gen 4: Knocks it out of the park. Only Heatran is lame
    Gen 5: Godawful. And I love Gen5. Genesect is the only one who's not hideous, but he is also one of the best legendaries period.
    Gen 6: pretty lame honestly. Xerneas is okay, Zygarde is actually cool. The rest are dull and boring.
    Gen 7: Lets not count UB's for time, the Cosmos line is good no complaints. the Tapus have a good concept but just don't pull it off. Magearna is fun. The Mythicals are an insult because they're all obviously normal mons removed from the game rather than actual legendaries, so thumbs down regardless of if they're actually good or not.
    Gen8: Another stinker. Zacian is good and I like Glastrier even if he's a little simple for a legend, but the rest of the roster is a wasteland of furrymons and regis.
    Gen9: A mixed gen. The Ruinous are great, Ogerpon and Pecharunt are great, the Raidons are great, Walking Wake is good. but the other Dino-Tower Trio and Robot Swords of Justice are terrible, as is the loyal three.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >regis bad but gen 4 knocks it out of the park
      wtf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The rest are dull and boring
      You take that back
      Yvie is my fav legend

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're making it too obvious what generation you played as a kid

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Terapagos suffered from being the marketable mascot of Horizons, an anime aimed at toddlers.
    Despite being the literal origin of the enigmatic phenomenon that allowed such alien concepts as Paradox Pokemon and led to the literal schizophrenia of people like Arven's parent and Briar, it wasn't allowed to actually do anything to reflect this acclaim because then that'd make the snot-nosed babies start crying that the cute turtle is actually scary.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to reflect their target audience

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Here's your Legendary quartet in gen 10 kek (Gayfreak probably).

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Schizos throwing a fit thinking the animation told TPC to not promote the turtle, and not the other way around

    TPC

    TPCi | ShoPro OLM

    That's the chain order you fricking morons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Game Freak

      >TPC

      >ShoPro OLM

      >TPCi
      That's the ACTUAL flow. Anime can't get made until TPC signs off on it. It can't get localised until ShoPro pass it off to them. But ALL of them must do as Game Freak direct. there's no reality where Game Freak aren't head of the table, save the ones where Pokémon failed and remained a fad that didn't birth a franchise.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know what the frick it is about this thing, but it looks extremely out of place with other pokemon characters. Maybe it's that really garish intense deep blue, maybe it's the eyes, the geomentric shapes clashing hard with the soft, I'm not sure. Motherfricker looks shit either way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's all of what you said. The colors and symbols of every type found in its other forms make it worse and even more out of place with Pokémon and its world.
      This would be somewhat forgiving, but still looking like overdesigned shit, if it were a man-made Pokémon, but nothing has indicated to it being so, or much of anything else other than being responsible for Terastal because of the "gimmick must have legendary" push since Gen 7 and some turtles all the way down BS.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        >Silvally, an artificial Pokémon with cells of every Type and may possibly be an affront to Arceus, isn't out of place in Pokémon, unlike Terapagos
        >The Galarian Fossil Pokémon, literal abominations, isn't overtly out of place in Pokémon, unlike Terapagos
        Where the frick did quality control go in SV?

        Did you morons even play the game or just look at drawings? Terapagos' model actually has animations for the shell's symbols, they aren't like big flashing leds, they are marks that slowly shift back and forth to resemble the elemental symbols with a faint glow.
        I don't know what franchise of games you guys play if you see this and think it feels out of place.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we futureproofed Terapagos so it can shift its symbols whenever we change to a new set, even after we remove Terastal
          Are you sure this is not an artificial Pokémon?
          >they aren't like big flashing leds
          The biggest influencer in the franchise, the merchandise, say otherwise.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            moron, its symbols aren't going to change in the future and it's not artificial. It is a paradox like all its other Area Zero friends. Turtles all the way down.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it looks better with the symbols off
          Literally overdesigned.
          Still looks out of place with tail's lighting on top of that muddy ground and pixelated grass textures.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's all of what you said. The colors and symbols of every type found in its other forms make it worse and even more out of place with Pokémon and its world.
      This would be somewhat forgiving, but still looking like overdesigned shit, if it were a man-made Pokémon, but nothing has indicated to it being so, or much of anything else other than being responsible for Terastal because of the "gimmick must have legendary" push since Gen 7 and some turtles all the way down BS.

      >Silvally, an artificial Pokémon with cells of every Type and may possibly be an affront to Arceus, isn't out of place in Pokémon, unlike Terapagos
      >The Galarian Fossil Pokémon, literal abominations, isn't overtly out of place in Pokémon, unlike Terapagos
      Where the frick did quality control go in SV?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TURTLES
    ALL
    THE
    WAY
    DOOOOOOWN

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