Why are new fantranslators so fricking LAZY?

>SMT1
>never translated ever, never localized, literally bumfrick nowhere series nobody knows
>got translated in fricking TWO THOUSAND TWO before half of this board's userbase was even born, purely by fans using shitty computers
>Persona 1, the start of the massively popular persona franchise, already has a fully translated script made by the official localization company for the shitty psp port
>STILL NOT TRANSLATED PROPERLY for the ps1 with the fixed soundtrack, in >>2023<<
HOW are fantranslators so fricking lazy nowadays? is it because they're actually being hired for jobs now so all the good ones are working for money and the shitty ones are left behind to lazy around for years without properly translating Persona 1 for the PS1?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because back then you had a hoard of people on call to fan translate Newly released Pokemon games so they can be in English for 6 days before the western version of leaked.
    Now that Pokemon has global releases. Said translators got jobs being translators and not video game localizers.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Because back then you had a hoard of people on call to fan translate Newly released Pokemon games so they can be in English for 6 days before the western version of leaked.
      Literally me with B/W

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because back then you were cool for knowing japanese
    Now people just wipe out google translate and say you're useless and nobody thinks you're cool at all

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      tbh this is part of the reason. No honor in doing a good fan translation in a sea of MTLd and liberally edited garbage, and gamers are too stupid to tell the difference. Imagine wasting years of your life doing it for free and getting less than clout. It won't even get you a job.
      Why are you consoomers so fricking lazy? Either learn Japanese or frick off.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        have you tried doing it because you're a nice person instead of doing it because you want attention

        anonymous translators >>> attentionprostitutes

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          this

          t. anonymous translator

          it gives me a high knowing im doing something good and not being a homosexual about it

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you tried growing up?
          >bro just spend hundreds of hours working for free on this you're a nice cuck arent you 😉

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Have you? good people don't brag about the things they do

            doing it for money is understandable
            doing it for clout is pathetic

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Clout IS money in this day and age, dumbass.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for the reddit karma

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought it was P2 that was missing one, or maybe the psp port of it???
    It's been years since I'd checked it out but damn, I guess people feel less obligated since it has the shit localization.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      P2 got fully translated last year, by a totally anonymous guy, because the actual translators were pieces of shit taking too god damn long to translate it

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Awesome, I've been wanting to play innocent sin forever even if people say it's easy as frick, hats off to him.

        It was Persona 2. Atlus skipped the first game Innocent Sin and localized Eternal Punishment. When the PSP remakes came out they skipped Eternal Punishment because it was backwards compatible on PSN so they localized Innocent Sin PSP

        Absolute chad move on their part making it as hard to experience over here as humanly possible.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Really? I knew about the regular translators being lazy but didn't know some random badass came along and translated it. That's amazing.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tales had a really similar situation. There was a big name in the translation community, and they basically took on every project, but barely released anything. Tales of Destiny was a very popular title that people were asking for, but I think it was in the works for over a decade and there was still nothing more than a menu patch.
          Then another group comes out of left field and releases a full translation (though it had some grammatical errors that were slowly edited through successive releases).

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Really? I knew about the regular translators being lazy but didn't know some random badass came along and translated it. That's amazing.

        it's literally just the PSX translation with honorifics added in

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Innocent Sin for the PSX was never translated into english

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it was, not officially however.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It also has the Tatsuya scenario though, an additional piece of story content not in the psx version.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            also not translated by the guys who did the patch, they used a translation by some rando on tumblr (with permission)

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          good, the psp version is better

          they should do that with the ps1 version of persona1, just use the psp translation, which is worse for persona 1 but better for persona 2

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Funnily enough the same thing happened with Type Moon's Witch on the Holy Night, the fantranslators took so long that Type Moon of all companies released the VN officially in the west before fantranslators did.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Persona started at 3

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        never

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The most kino track for the awakening. The best in the series if I must say.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was Persona 2. Atlus skipped the first game Innocent Sin and localized Eternal Punishment. When the PSP remakes came out they skipped Eternal Punishment because it was backwards compatible on PSN so they localized Innocent Sin PSP

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The western version of Persona 1 was heavily edited for the American audience. Worst thing they did since they killed Lennon.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        This
        and the PSP version has a completely garbage OST, which is insane because the PS1 version has one of the best OST in gaming as a whole and the original composer DIED a few months after the game came out so its disrespectful too

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >which is insane because the PS1 version has one of the best OST in gaming as a whole
          This is what's always baffled me the most. It'd be one thing if its original OST was considered bad, but it was beloved. What the frick were they thinking? How arrogant do you even have to be to think you can do better by replacing it entirely?

          because literally nobody cares about P1 for the PS1, it's horrible game that is rendered completely obsolete by the PSP version with the music patch.

          moron.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How arrogant do you even have to be to think you can do better by replacing it entirely?
            It didn't mix well with the new direction of the franchise. The p1 psp part was made so new fans could try the old games.
            And besides, Meguro himself said he considered the P1 Original OST to be one of his worst works, which baffles me to no end.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >And besides, Meguro himself said he considered the P1 Original OST to be one of his worst works, which baffles me to no end.
              He barely had a part in the original's soundtrack, though. Of its 52 tracks, he was only responsible for 6.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >PS1 version has one of the best OST in gaming as a whole
          lol

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know they made the one classmate black and removed the ice queen quest and plenty of other shit.

        This
        and the PSP version has a completely garbage OST, which is insane because the PS1 version has one of the best OST in gaming as a whole and the original composer DIED a few months after the game came out so its disrespectful too

        They always have to frick up rereleases some how, the psp version does have a patch for the OG ost though doesn't it? Doesn't fix it but at least it's something.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the psp version does have a patch for the OG ost though doesn't it?
          PSP version has overall less songs than the PS1 version, so the patch only re-adds some of the original music, not all of it because it wouldn't fit

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So gay, I feel like if they remade them or even rereleased them which I can't ever see them doing again they would either cuck or frick it up tremendously.
            Guess the only true definitive solution is to learn Nip.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I speak 3 languages I am not learning a fourth one

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        3 different meme dialects of one language doesn't count anon

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          English, Spanish and Portuguese so 2 languages + 1 meme dialect (spanish)

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Let me guess, 3 different variations of the a romance language with almost identical grammar and structure.

        English, Spanish and Portuguese so 2 languages + 1 meme dialect (spanish)

        Bingo

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You got that sort of translation in 2002 because most of the people 1) who were online, and 2) who were interested in video games 3) were super-autists who congregated on niche forums.

    Those niche forums created a platform for people to coordinate and, frankly, do the translations for social cred. It's the same reason people now leak classified military info on War Thunder.

    These days, the web is too sprawling to foster those sort of niche communities. You'll get some on discord, but the downside is that there's SO MANY options for turbo-artists today. Back in 2002, the lack of options helped funnel the autists into fan translations.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The same guy who translated P2 on PSX is working on a P1 PSX fan translation with another romhacker
    No telling when it'll be done though

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >new fantranslators
    >nowadays
    Nah this has always been a thing. I remember when Fate/Hollow Ataraxia was already done being translated but the buttholes who worked on it were too lazy to upload it and only ended up doing it because they were scared an anon posting an mtl was going to make them look bad.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was it the same guy who released a Persona 2 only after someone else did it? They finished the entire Fate/Extra CCC script back in May last year, but they haven't released it yet.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The sad reality is that no one cares about SMT, and even fewer people care about SMT1.
    That's all it comes down to - if people care about a game, they will translate it. Hell, if people really care about a game they'll spend 12 years decompiling the code. Autism is a hell of a drug... but no one is autistic about SMT1.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >guy too lazy to learn a language whines about trannies not doing enough free work for him
    Lol. Lmao, even.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    because literally nobody cares about P1 for the PS1, it's horrible game that is rendered completely obsolete by the PSP version with the music patch.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the music patch that doesn't include every single song? moron, you didn't play the game

      The sad reality is that no one cares about SMT, and even fewer people care about SMT1.
      That's all it comes down to - if people care about a game, they will translate it. Hell, if people really care about a game they'll spend 12 years decompiling the code. Autism is a hell of a drug... but no one is autistic about SMT1.

      SMT1 got fantranslated on the SNES, the GBA and the PS1, people love SMT1

      did you mean Persona1?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The PS1 SMT games are not translated. Neither 1 nor 2.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I only played for a few minutes, but the PS1 version didn't look all that better than the original SNES release. Same for the soundtrack. Would it be worth translating? At least the PC Engine version added new character models.

          >new fantranslators
          >nowadays
          Nah this has always been a thing. I remember when Fate/Hollow Ataraxia was already done being translated but the buttholes who worked on it were too lazy to upload it and only ended up doing it because they were scared an anon posting an mtl was going to make them look bad.

          Something similar happened with SMT if.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes they are moron, 1 is, 2 isn't

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Neither is if..., but honestly who cares?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I care, If..'s ps1 port actually has new stuff according to the wiki

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The wiki states the changes but Akira is also available from the start if I'm remembering right

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    All this time waiting you should have learned Japanese or translate the game yourself.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tom is translating P1 properly, relax yourself.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      For how long now?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Started at Halloween, so not very long at all.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          where can I look for updates?

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    sometimes the right tools for a game just don't really exist publicly.
    tokimeki memorial ps1 is such a coding nightmare that the inferior snes release ended up getting translated instead
    did the tools used to translate amagami ever become public?

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >translated massive game like mizzurna falls
    >translated berserk for ps2
    >yakuza for psp is being translated
    >ishin translation
    the frick do you want?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assume more of Atlus's catalogue. Specifically from SMT and Persona. There are many games that never came westward.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well, Devil Summoner in english would be neat.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. I've been waiting for so long. There was one in the works almost three years back. But I still have yet to hear an update surrounding that.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >same guys that were doing the P2EP psp patch
          haha...

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, at this rate it's pretty much dead. Hopefully someone else comes from the shadows much like what happened with P2 EP PSP.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nowadays practically every Nip game is released in English so fan translators are stuck with obscure old games.

    There's no fame in that.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You will never be a woman.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        rent free

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm playing Persona 1 right now. What did she mean by this?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She is offering those demons a nice cold glass of milk from a cow and totally not her own.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I also want milk from Elly

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      for the love of god anon turn off texture filtering in the emulator's options

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not my screencap. I just took it from google

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bro? Where's your HD patch?

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do beggars think they can be choosers?

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    SMT1 was officially translated for the iOS port (which was the GBA port with PSX sound). The translation has been ported to the GBA version of SMT1. You’d know this if you weren’t Ganker poster scum.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why can't you people fricking read? OP said that smt1 got translated by fans before it got an official translation yet persona 1 PS1 hasn't even though it has an official translation out for the psp

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gets translated by fricking high schoolers in 1996

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        High schoolers thought Butz instead of Bartz was funny

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't the guy working on a translation for P1 having a twitter meltdown or something? Or was another fan-translator?

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    -Hacking text back into a game is difficult.
    -There are hardly any hacking tools available for 5th generation consoles compared to 3rd and 4th.
    -Why don't you do it yourself.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want a translation of if's PSX version. It makes a few improvements and the Akira route's much cooler. There's definitely higher priorities than that, but it'd be cool so why not.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Personagays don't care about P1, just because the series has a bigger fanbase doesn't mean they can or will fan translate older games.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    arent those 2002 translations of smt 1 and 2 inaccurate? I mean sure beggars cant be choosers but still

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are more faithful than most professional translations of japanese games nowadays.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Patreon money.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why haven't you done it?

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still waiting on srw alpha shits been worked up for like 16 years at this point
    https://aeongenesis.net/projects/srwalpha

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >SMT1
    >never translated
    That's where you are wrong

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was, but unfortunately this port was only available on earlier versions of ios. Now it's pretty much lost, another game to add to the list of unplayable Atlus mobile games.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The worst thing is that they are well aware that they released it, so its not like its some sort of secret thing they want to bury.
        Just fricking remaster them with the etrian HD engine, ffs.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Another Atlus moment, I swear it's like a bad joke. Are they just out of touch with what their audience wants. It's like we're always handed a monkey's paw.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the only fan translation that existed for years had completely fricked menus, so you had to remember which gibberish text did what
    >finally a new fan translation gets released
    >it completely rewrites the story and fills it to the brim with schizo fanfic garbage
    >a third fan translation gets released
    >it also adds a bunch of gameplay changes that completely strip the game from its identity, making it a generic ROM hack instead of just a translation
    I stopped paying attention to the franchise shortly after. Did it ever get a proper patch?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, and doubt it will because the Project Exile looks good enough.
      And dom't get me started on the the other kaga emblem games. Its a miracle that Genealogy dodged the bullet.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It still amazes me that Dangen did a better (not good, but better) job with the Vestaria's translations than that homosexual Aethin did with Berwick, and specially TRS

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Instead of spending hundreds of hours learning a language, someone else should spend hundreds of hours learning it and then dozens of hours using it for my benefit, for free
    Do EOPs really...?

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    learn 日本語

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It kind of baffles me the Baroque translators focused on the shitty ps1 version because it had worse art than the saturn and none of the gameplay improvements of the remasters. It also had gameplay adjustments which made the game unplayable such as quadrupling the length of runs by increasing the number of floors (hello, starving to death) and making traps kill you instantly because they do damage every frame.

    You can read how shit it is here.
    https://nervetower.neocities.org/lore5_versions

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because hacking Saturn games is a pain in the ass while PS1 is less so

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        They say everything is a pain in the ass. I think it's just a skill issue. There are some PS1 games with perfect fan translations and then there's some where 90% of the game is untranslated and they just give you a txt file that's basically a mini gamefaqs guide with the dialog. Sakura Wars got translated so it's not impossible.

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never playing that trilogy unless there is a remake with social links.

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are some classic Japanese games without an English tranlation? The one that comes to mind for me is the Madou Monogatari games. (The games Puyo Puyo is a spin-off off.) Some of them have fan translations, but definitely not all of them.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad%C5%8D_Monogatari

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    fan translators owe me games
    unironically

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