They are. I dont care what Jamaal the football player or Nequesha the influencer has to say. Their brainless echo chamber-tier opinions have no impact on my life, and they CERTAINLY have no say in the video games I like.
But it's not. If it were, and you were Jamaal the football player, you'd have 800000 brainless chimps coming to shit all over me with you because you are on a platform and get lots of funny upboats. Instead, I can rightly call you a fricking moron and move on
You could've just copied the text from the post and passed it off as your own but you couldn't help yourself from advertising some random anime troony's twitter profile instead.
Why is that?
>Ganker contrarians so desperate to hate that they have to resort to twitter these days unironically
you can't make this shit up. what happened to this board?
lol except the twitter screencap is correct and we have all seen and experienced exactly what they're talking about. You, on the other hand, just made up a scenario in your head and are getting angry at it.
kefka is, but sephiroth is not. he takes the form of an angelic being, but he never calls himself KAMI or GODDO. do you guys even play these video games?
Closer to Satan than God
Granted Grandia 2 has the pope as the main human villain, but the pope's actual god is already dead and the one you fight is the satan analogue
>Neither Kefka or Sephiroth are gods
see
[...]
>They used angelic motifs becuase they have a swelled head this definitely means they are the actual christian god
>>They used angelic motifs becuase they have a swelled head this definitely means they are the actual christian god
No, the angelic visage is intended to represent they have achieved godhood. Not actually YAHWEH
5 months ago
Anonymous
Angels are not god. An easy test is that worshiping an angel is idolatry.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Angels are not god. An easy test is that worshiping an angel is idolatry.
I don't care what you believe. I only care what the creator was trying to express. Which was the villains ascended to godhood.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Then every wrpg is about killing god. Killing angels is no different than killing any other powerful creature.
Xenogears is more like Cthulhu in a robot body.
Lunar 2 is an "evil god", which may or may not fit the meme depending of if you want to argue it means "christian god analogue" in which case no it's more like satan, or "A god in a broad sense".
no there's plenty where you kill god. it is important to distinguish though, tired of talking to people who still act like you killed god in xenoblade 1
To show how much of a badass you are with all your character progression.
And if you're killing god then the church are the baddies. This is why the church is always the villain in JRPGs.
You're looking at it from a monotheistic perspective and not a polytheistic culture.
90% of the time you're not even fighting an absolute god, but just the embodiment of chaos or evil in JRPGs.
Outside of a few SMT games what JRPGs have you kill God? Like actual god not someone who is striving to become a god or some powerful polytheistic deity?
Because he works in mysterious ways beyond human understanding.
The better question is why the hell would anyone worship such a God? I don't care how much God begs and pleads me to, I have no interest in worshipping the guy who created polio and both World Wars.
That's not a great answer because like you said, there would be zero reason to worship him. Every religion on the planet would be wrong in assuming he's a good guy or that we understand what he wants. For all we know by that logic God hates being worshiped, or is a schizo whose wants aren't consistent or constantly change. He'd be so alien to us that we would have no way of meaningfully connecting to him so there would be zero point in even trying to appease him because we don't understand him
Except a majority of modern religion PRAISE their god as being right, having a plan in mind, being blessed if something good happens to them, holding faith if something bad happens to them. They're weak fricking people.
Desperate and pathetic men created religion because they had nothing else to grasp their frail fingers with. Then they turned to others wrought in despair and confused their change of life being attributed to their made up belief. I'll summarize it like this.
You'll see some idiot larping about how he used to be a slob, unhappy and whatever before he took to religion and started practicing fasting, exercising, and being outgoing. That motherfricker didn't change because of his belief in god, he just did shit others do. This is how they delude themselves. They celebrate basic actions in the name of faith when they're too over their head to actually acknowledge they can change themselves for the better.
>Then why create humans and religions?
Lots of reasons. The primary one is to create a community bound up by a system of metaphysical beliefs and physical practices. >Why care if humans worship you?
He doesn't care >God makes even less sense now
Because you have taken the preaching of religions at face value.
>Why?
Because humans want communities >He doesn't care about humans
And?
5 months ago
Anonymous
So then why does he want to create communities if he doesn’t care about what humans want
Shit makes no sense
5 months ago
Anonymous
>So then why does he want to create communities if he doesn’t care about what humans want
Like I said, he doesn’t care about humans, or what they want. Humans do they they want, and claim that god wants them to do it.
Xeno cares WAY too much about the Gnostic symbolism. Takahashi seriously needs to chill with that shit already. Like, dude, I fricking get it. Nobody cares. Goddamn.
The concept of a singular benevolent god banks on the notion that this world is simply a place for trials and tribulations; your life on Earth is temporary and ripe grounds for testing whether you are good or evil. Once you die, you will be judged: if you are deemed good, you spend the rest of eternity in paradise; if not, you suffer for the rest of eternity in a fiery abyss.
This is not a 200 IQ concept, you should've realized it before clicking Post.
you would have a point if that was his intention when he made it, in reality it's the first draft of paradise that went to shit so he decided to make an actual paradise later and use this world as the trail
>spill milk in order to have something to clean
literal insanity
cleaning after oneself is just a consequence of a side effect, why would the literal can-do-anything being make any side effects, especially "sin" which it hates so bad?
If you can't spill milk or sin, then you do not have free will. Humans were created with free will. I'm sorry you don't like it. Maybe try to be a better person. >Omniscience precludes free will!
No. Intelligence allows one to predict the future, like knowing how someone will react to bad news or which direction the mouse behind their couch will run when they stomp their foot. That doesn't mean the individuals are acting without free will. Geneticists in the future will be able to predict exactly what kind of person you'll be as an adult from the moment you're born and, one day, you might ejaculate in a cup and they may be able to pinpoint even which sperm will reach the egg. This doesn't stop free will from existing, they've merely acquired the intelligence to see further into the future. God knew you would be born and choose the route through life which you did, because he is omniscient, but he allowed you to do this, because to stop you would be to remove your free will - to force you to be good. That is not to his liking. If you can't be persuaded to choose good, then you don't deserve paradise. That's all.
If you think that's insane, that's fine, but you know less than God so your opinion doesn't matter. I'm an atheist playing devil's advocated by the way. Religion is an evolutionary adaptation. Trying to stop people from being religious because it "doesn't make sense" is moronic. People will simply start ignoring 1000-year old wisdom for 20-year old wisdom instead, which is what Marxists and other egalitarians do. And their wisdom is worse.
>visit twitter for no reason for the first time >most of popular posts on "video games trending" are LITERAL SCREENCAPS OF Ganker POSTS
what the frick....
They do that already. They're called "greentext stories" and almost always come accompanied with a picture of pepe the frog and circulate all over social media like twitter and reddit. Greentext stories are normalgay shit and have been for almost 10 years or more now.
yeah its pretty funny seeing their posts on these other websites
Low quality greentext shit that goes on for way too long and also has zero (You)s
Somehow there is a dedicated audience of normalgays who read this "Ganker content" that is 100% staged
Normalgays generally like Ganker content because we're allowed to be more humorous here. They're just afraid of all the naughty words we throw around like "Black person", "gay", and "troony". Those are great words to gatekeep the site from them.
>BG1
Final boss is Sarevok who is trying to please Bhaal. Sarevok is a Bhaalspawn, meaning he is a descendant of Bhaal but isn't really an avatar anymore than you are, he doesn't even have any Bhaalspawn powers and can't assume the Slayer form >BG2
Before DLC final boss is Irenicus, who is a wizard, not God
Expansion the final boss is Melissan who basically does become a God, yes >BG3
Final boss is the Absolute, which I guess technically gets worshiped as a god by a cult but is actually a Netherbrain
>BG1
to cite Sarevok: "face me, face the new lord of murder" he wants to kill you so he can become the next god >BG2
Irenicus goal is literally to steal your divine essence so he can ascend to godhood >BG3
yeah, not really a god, but worshipped like one + the crown is a device that makes it a god
overall pretty much the same as most JRPG, you kill the last boss when he is at the cusp of becoming an unkillable god
>BG1 and 2
Those are their GOALS, they don't actually become God and you don't actually fight God, you thwart them before they can succeed. The only villain that fits is in Throne of Bhaal
Let me state the reasons why jarpigs are bad: >Jarpigs are bad because you almost always play with predetermined characters with predetermined stats and backgrounds, this negatively affects the "role-playing" aspect of said "games". >Most of them remove almost all player agency, resulting in less immersion. >Jarpiggers don't like branching stories where you can choose which actions you should take or not, which opinions you should disagree with or not etc. >Jarpigs are incredibly linear and straightforward, which means that these games have far less replayability value than an average RPG with multiple ways of solving problems and endings. >Jarpigs are incredibly simple, so simple that even a toddler can pick it up and complete them. I mean, this shouldn't be a surprise as DQ is just an oversimplified version of Wizardry and Ultima. >Jarpigs are incredibly formulaic, the vast majority of them have very samey themes, character archetypes, enemies and plot. They even have samey animu styles too.
All in all, I see no value in J"RPG" "games" where "role-playing" is next to non-existent.
>AHHH I HAVE TO PLAY A CHARACTER WHO ALREADY EXISTS IN THE WORLD INSTEAD OF CREATING A BUTTFRICK UGLY Black person WITH A PINK AFRO TO LOOK COOL, ALOOF AND DETACHED TO MY FRIENDS
Kami die all the time in Shintoism, the conception of what it means to be a god is much smaller scale than the abrahamics. As a result, even when JRPGs have abrahamic-tier gods in them they are still considered to be partially mortal.
None of them actually even deal with the capital G God anyway, its always power hungry psychopaths that think they are god. Or ancient aliens/constructs.
Or in the rare case its actually a divinity, its a setting where there are hundreds of such and they're basically on the same power level of men anyway at their weakest.
But the answer is because everyone loves the local adventurer stuff, so you start off with simple things that make the character feel relatable. RPGs are all about progression, so your challenges become tougher and tougher. The ultimate challenge is attaining godhood, so you must either defeat someone else trying to achieve it or someone who already has. After that, the game has to end, as the character has reached the pinnacle of their growth and overcome the symbolically greatest challenge, transforming themselves from someone who can only solve small, individual problems to someone who's a master of their own destiny. They can go back to being a farmer or whatever if they want.
You don't like it only because it's been done to death, but you're also an adult and most of these games are made for kids.
seems to be common among the terminally online
same reason there are more satires of dating sims than actual genuine dating sims
same logic people use when shitting on fighting games
or simulator games
humans don't like people who are different to them
People without a healthy means of finding joy in life instead find it by locating socially acceptable targets and then attacking them.
It's basically a grown-up version of that kid who used to kick over other people's sand castles. They learned that their parents beat them if they act out like that so they learned to couch their urge to destruction in sophistry instead.
Most people hate things they don't know much about. Tale as old as time. All the culture war shit is too extravagant and wishful thinking. People aren't that complicated.
>I'd rather actually have gay sex, than have it look like I'm having gay sex but it's just the viewer is looking at the situation from the wrong angle
LMAO
No, I'd rather have gay sex than play Japanese video games.
The joke being is that I like girls, and I'd sacrifice my heterosexuality just to avoid playing a video game produced by Japan and likely containing examples of Japanese humor.
Wow a survey of ten moronic people in america. Nice empirical evidence bro, I've seen surveys of americans, the ones on the street can't answer questions like "what date were the 9-11 attacks?" or "where is france?"
No. There are high IQ denominations, but that's just because people change denominations based on IQ. On the whole, IQ is correlated with the number of deities people believe in. The dumbest people in the world believe in magic and spirits and animism, next polytheism, then monotheism, then atheism. Although there's a better correlate with IQ: skin color :^)
>godless le bad because they don't feel invested in ethnonationalism!
Still not a study about IQ.
You do know that the religious are trying to get this world destroyed, right? They're just trying to do it by fulfilling their prophecies instead of going for the simple solution and smashing that mf red button.
You're a worthless shiteating twitterBlack person, next time use your own words instead of using excrement shat out by other inferior beings like yourself. Now eat shit and die.
Western RPG >Chapter 1: Kill God >FINAL CHAPTER : USE YOUR TEAM OF ETHICALLY AND SEXUALLY DIVERSE CHARACTERS TO CONVERT ALL THE TOWN'S CHILDREN INTO DRAG QUEENS!
>WROW stakes get higher as the story progresses?!?!?
Lot of JRPGs are stupid, but c'mon Black person. This is storytelling 101. You have to increase the stakes.
different cultural connotation as to what gods are
if the nibelungenlied was foundational to american mythology you can bet a lot more games would have you slaying a dragon at the end
it just makes the status of god meaningless when some teen can kill them. what even is a god at that point? it’s no different from a person who trains really hard. in actual myth the gods were bizarre dream logic beings that a mortal was mostly completely powerless against, you either won their favour or sided with a god that didn’t like the god that was troubling you. if you don’t have that clear sense of division the magical realm becomes boring and equivalent to a number increasing on a stat. this is why JRPGs never get me massively invested in the actual setting, they’re all fairly disposable because they all feel like a shallow puddle which rotates around the MC. if you fellate my player character to the point they defeat gods it doesn’t make me feel powerful, it makes the world feel empty and without a proper sense of depth or weight.
NOOO!! WE NEED AN OPEN WORLD GAME WHERE YOU YOU GET ALL YOUR ABILITIES UP FRONT AND YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT BEING LIMITED BY A TRIFLING LINEAR NARRATIVE
>big finale has you kill the suped-up god version of the villain >shortly after you have to fight the villain in human form 1 on 1 >it goes on so long both the hero and villain become exhausted and just start throwing punches at each other
>FFXVI is about Jesus Christ (Logos) extinguishing the last (The Ultima) being of a race of alien refugees, who are also parasites. >Hahahaha guys he killed god! Such a classic JRPG trope. I guess the message is christianity is bad.
It's insane how little these people think about the content they consume. Just surface level thoughts that could have come from a seven-year-old.
Japan's main religions have historically been Buddhism and Shinto, both of which are polytheistic. Gods aren't nearly as special in their culture as they are in ours.
Because they're narcissistic attention seeking morons who's brains have been melted by the internet, and elon musk owning it now isn't going to change that one bit.
Oh JRPGs? Idk.
Every single character in that world is going to find some lost cat. Someone out of them all can kill god. The story, by necessity, follows the one that can kill god.
it's called pacing, you insipid Black person
actual 50 IQ post holy shit
>gay X screencap
have a nice day
a fitting brainlet first post for a brainlet OP
I can sip just fine you homosexual don't ever tell me I can't sip again.
fippybippy
No it's called scaling, pacing is how quickly you you move through each chapter.
tropes are easier to find in foreign works
>twitter post
>idea not his own
>spambot tier question
Why are they like this
>Twitter posts are...LE BAD BECAUSE I SAID SO
twitter its bad because its full of morons troony
Not my problem.
twitter posts be like
>15 year old joke
>37.7k likes
They are. I dont care what Jamaal the football player or Nequesha the influencer has to say. Their brainless echo chamber-tier opinions have no impact on my life, and they CERTAINLY have no say in the video games I like.
This isn't my problem. I'm going to continue to create threads with twitter posts.
It's called X now, homosexual. If you're going to shill the platform at least get its name right.
this is literally Ganker and has been for decades you literal moron
But it's not. If it were, and you were Jamaal the football player, you'd have 800000 brainless chimps coming to shit all over me with you because you are on a platform and get lots of funny upboats. Instead, I can rightly call you a fricking moron and move on
Go discuss twitter posts on fricking twitter you moronic zoomer. Stop trying to turn the internet into a homogeneous blob of shit.
see
If your entire personality is repeating shit other morons said on the internet, you are basically not alive.
Come up with your own thoughts and topics of discussion, brainrotted zoomoid.
You could've just copied the text from the post and passed it off as your own but you couldn't help yourself from advertising some random anime troony's twitter profile instead.
Why is that?
>Ganker contrarians so desperate to hate that they have to resort to twitter these days unironically
you can't make this shit up. what happened to this board?
Then go to twitter you inbred Black person holy shit
>spambot tier question
they made a remark; granted, it's a stupid remark, but you're a moron for calling it a question.
>End of game is different than start of game
woah
TwitterBlack folk don't play games and they are not funny.
>But I was talking about jrpg
Don't care.
>Chapter 1: Kill God
>Final Chapter: Find a lost kitty
Any games like this?
Frieren if she vidya
It's only a matter of time.
Tomb Raider 2
>chapter 1: kill a Tyrannosaurus
>epilogue: kill some Italian mobsters in your bathrobe
Demon's Souls
>fight a dragon god at the beginning
>fight a mud puddle at the end
Trails in the Sky FC ended with buying ice cream
JRPGS be like
CHAPTER 1 attend high school
FINAL CHAPTER kill god
>chapter 1: find lost kitty
>Final chapter: SAVE God
Now this is based.
>twitter screencap from 4 years ago
>final chapter has you kill a god that is also a kitty
western rpg be like
CHAPTER 1: worship black men
FINAL CHAPTER: have gay sex with a bear
lol except the twitter screencap is correct and we have all seen and experienced exactly what they're talking about. You, on the other hand, just made up a scenario in your head and are getting angry at it.
Name 2 JPRGs where you kill god. I'll even give you the first, SMT.
You can't, because that's the only one.
>Name 2 JPRGs where you kill god
Final Fantasy 6 and 7.
If god = powerful entity then every wrpg is about killing god
>If god = powerful entity then every wrpg is about killing god
It's not incidental that Kefka and Sephiroth are angels.
Neither Kefka or Sephiroth are gods even in the Polytheism sense. Kefka is trying to become a god, granted, but he doesn't get there.
>Neither Kefka or Sephiroth are gods
see
Kefka actually does become God though
Do you even play the games you pretend to know so much about?
kefka is, but sephiroth is not. he takes the form of an angelic being, but he never calls himself KAMI or GODDO. do you guys even play these video games?
DQ7 you kill god
Closer to Satan than God
Granted Grandia 2 has the pope as the main human villain, but the pope's actual god is already dead and the one you fight is the satan analogue
>They used angelic motifs becuase they have a swelled head this definitely means they are the actual christian god
>>They used angelic motifs becuase they have a swelled head this definitely means they are the actual christian god
No, the angelic visage is intended to represent they have achieved godhood. Not actually YAHWEH
Angels are not god. An easy test is that worshiping an angel is idolatry.
>Angels are not god. An easy test is that worshiping an angel is idolatry.
I don't care what you believe. I only care what the creator was trying to express. Which was the villains ascended to godhood.
Then every wrpg is about killing god. Killing angels is no different than killing any other powerful creature.
FFX, Grandia 2
The only FF where you kill god is LR.
Yu Yevon is the central figure in the world's religion
Yu yevon is just a dude, he's not a god. It doesn't matter that he has an entire religion revolving around him.
Xenogears
Lunar 2
Xenogears is more like Cthulhu in a robot body.
Lunar 2 is an "evil god", which may or may not fit the meme depending of if you want to argue it means "christian god analogue" in which case no it's more like satan, or "A god in a broad sense".
>"evil god"
Anon I have bad news for you about what games with evil gods in them are trying to portray, and it's not satan.
This. In almost every JRPG you kill either satan or the demiurge.
no there's plenty where you kill god. it is important to distinguish though, tired of talking to people who still act like you killed god in xenoblade 1
For example? I can only think of SMT and Shadowhearts (kinda).
Golden sun you kill God too. Chrono trigger you kill something that some consider a god.
golden sun isn't a JRPG its developed by camelot
TwitterBlack folk don't play games and they are not funny.
>But I was talking about jrpg
Don't care.
Why do so many games have you killing God? It's getting a little bit silly
Killing a god is every man's dream
To show how much of a badass you are with all your character progression.
And if you're killing god then the church are the baddies. This is why the church is always the villain in JRPGs.
You're looking at it from a monotheistic perspective and not a polytheistic culture.
90% of the time you're not even fighting an absolute god, but just the embodiment of chaos or evil in JRPGs.
Based. All games should have 2 objectives: save kitties and kill gods
>kill crow
>kill crow again
>kill crow AGAIN
>kill marble head
>kill narcissist
>kill crow lady
>kill the apocalypse
>kill best friend
~fin~
Based. All games should have 2 objectives: save kitties and kill gods
Western games be like
>Chapter One: learn how to jump
>Final mission: topple complex geopolitical power structure
>complex geopolitical power structure
aka secular god
Outside of a few SMT games what JRPGs have you kill God? Like actual god not someone who is striving to become a god or some powerful polytheistic deity?
most japanese games don't have a capital g God at all though just a few dieties who are worshipped
I FRICKING LOVE TWITTER THREAD SHOLY SHIT JUST WAIT UNTIL I REPLY TO A 4 YEAR OLD COMMENT YOU WILL SEE HOW RIGHT I AM AND HOW WRONG HE IS
It's just a topic prompt, autismo. I doesn't matter where it comes from.
it does and you need to have a nice day
God as a concept makes no sense. Why would an all-good all powerful omniscient being allow so much evil to exist?
Because you're ignorant and now frick all about the concept of god.
Because he works in mysterious ways beyond human understanding.
The better question is why the hell would anyone worship such a God? I don't care how much God begs and pleads me to, I have no interest in worshipping the guy who created polio and both World Wars.
That's not a great answer because like you said, there would be zero reason to worship him. Every religion on the planet would be wrong in assuming he's a good guy or that we understand what he wants. For all we know by that logic God hates being worshiped, or is a schizo whose wants aren't consistent or constantly change. He'd be so alien to us that we would have no way of meaningfully connecting to him so there would be zero point in even trying to appease him because we don't understand him
Except a majority of modern religion PRAISE their god as being right, having a plan in mind, being blessed if something good happens to them, holding faith if something bad happens to them. They're weak fricking people.
Desperate and pathetic men created religion because they had nothing else to grasp their frail fingers with. Then they turned to others wrought in despair and confused their change of life being attributed to their made up belief. I'll summarize it like this.
You'll see some idiot larping about how he used to be a slob, unhappy and whatever before he took to religion and started practicing fasting, exercising, and being outgoing. That motherfricker didn't change because of his belief in god, he just did shit others do. This is how they delude themselves. They celebrate basic actions in the name of faith when they're too over their head to actually acknowledge they can change themselves for the better.
world wars were created by mankind. 2 is debatable but the first one was just straight up moronic
>Why would an all-good all powerful omniscient being allow so much evil to exist?
Because he doesn't care about humans?
That would fail the "all-good" aspect
>That would fail the "all-good" aspect
Who said god was all good? People have, but I don't agree with those people.
The question you were answeing said that, for one.
>The question you were answeing said that, for one.
Well he's wrong. A god can exist and not be all good. Very easy solution.
Then why create humans and religions? Why care if humans worship you? God makes even less sense now
>Then why create humans and religions?
Lots of reasons. The primary one is to create a community bound up by a system of metaphysical beliefs and physical practices.
>Why care if humans worship you?
He doesn't care
>God makes even less sense now
Because you have taken the preaching of religions at face value.
>The primary one is to create a community bound up by a system of metaphysical beliefs and physical practices.
Why? He doesn't care about humans
>Why?
Because humans want communities
>He doesn't care about humans
And?
So then why does he want to create communities if he doesn’t care about what humans want
Shit makes no sense
>So then why does he want to create communities if he doesn’t care about what humans want
Like I said, he doesn’t care about humans, or what they want. Humans do they they want, and claim that god wants them to do it.
Evil is made by man, not God.
Look into gnosticism. Which amusingly is also a concept that a lot of JRPGs (specifical xeno games as far back as Gears) pulls from.
Xeno cares WAY too much about the Gnostic symbolism. Takahashi seriously needs to chill with that shit already. Like, dude, I fricking get it. Nobody cares. Goddamn.
It's gotten stale AF yeah, but it was pretty neat and well done in 'Gears.
“The problem of evil” is for morons
The concept of a singular benevolent god banks on the notion that this world is simply a place for trials and tribulations; your life on Earth is temporary and ripe grounds for testing whether you are good or evil. Once you die, you will be judged: if you are deemed good, you spend the rest of eternity in paradise; if not, you suffer for the rest of eternity in a fiery abyss.
This is not a 200 IQ concept, you should've realized it before clicking Post.
you would have a point if that was his intention when he made it, in reality it's the first draft of paradise that went to shit so he decided to make an actual paradise later and use this world as the trail
Why would God need to test us if he’s omniscient? He should already know who will die a sinner from the moment they’re born
But you don't. I know the floor will become wet when I step out of the shower, but I can't dry it until I do.
Yeah you can dumbass just lean forward with a towel
>spill milk in order to have something to clean
literal insanity
cleaning after oneself is just a consequence of a side effect, why would the literal can-do-anything being make any side effects, especially "sin" which it hates so bad?
If you can't spill milk or sin, then you do not have free will. Humans were created with free will. I'm sorry you don't like it. Maybe try to be a better person.
>Omniscience precludes free will!
No. Intelligence allows one to predict the future, like knowing how someone will react to bad news or which direction the mouse behind their couch will run when they stomp their foot. That doesn't mean the individuals are acting without free will. Geneticists in the future will be able to predict exactly what kind of person you'll be as an adult from the moment you're born and, one day, you might ejaculate in a cup and they may be able to pinpoint even which sperm will reach the egg. This doesn't stop free will from existing, they've merely acquired the intelligence to see further into the future. God knew you would be born and choose the route through life which you did, because he is omniscient, but he allowed you to do this, because to stop you would be to remove your free will - to force you to be good. That is not to his liking. If you can't be persuaded to choose good, then you don't deserve paradise. That's all.
If you think that's insane, that's fine, but you know less than God so your opinion doesn't matter.
I'm an atheist playing devil's advocated by the way. Religion is an evolutionary adaptation. Trying to stop people from being religious because it "doesn't make sense" is moronic. People will simply start ignoring 1000-year old wisdom for 20-year old wisdom instead, which is what Marxists and other egalitarians do. And their wisdom is worse.
It is tradition for anime.
>visit twitter for no reason for the first time
>most of popular posts on "video games trending" are LITERAL SCREENCAPS OF Ganker POSTS
what the frick....
You know what to do. Take a twitter screencap of a Ganker screencap and complete the circle.
They do that already. They're called "greentext stories" and almost always come accompanied with a picture of pepe the frog and circulate all over social media like twitter and reddit. Greentext stories are normalgay shit and have been for almost 10 years or more now.
yeah its pretty funny seeing their posts on these other websites
Low quality greentext shit that goes on for way too long and also has zero (You)s
Somehow there is a dedicated audience of normalgays who read this "Ganker content" that is 100% staged
Normalgays generally like Ganker content because we're allowed to be more humorous here. They're just afraid of all the naughty words we throw around like "Black person", "gay", and "troony". Those are great words to gatekeep the site from them.
>we
Lmao big mean swear words for the sekret klub
all baldur's gate games are literally about killing gods/avatars of gods
you also fight mehrunes dagon in oblivion
I'm pretty sure you kill as much gods in wrpgs as jprgs
>BG1
Final boss is Sarevok who is trying to please Bhaal. Sarevok is a Bhaalspawn, meaning he is a descendant of Bhaal but isn't really an avatar anymore than you are, he doesn't even have any Bhaalspawn powers and can't assume the Slayer form
>BG2
Before DLC final boss is Irenicus, who is a wizard, not God
Expansion the final boss is Melissan who basically does become a God, yes
>BG3
Final boss is the Absolute, which I guess technically gets worshiped as a god by a cult but is actually a Netherbrain
>BG1
to cite Sarevok: "face me, face the new lord of murder" he wants to kill you so he can become the next god
>BG2
Irenicus goal is literally to steal your divine essence so he can ascend to godhood
>BG3
yeah, not really a god, but worshipped like one + the crown is a device that makes it a god
overall pretty much the same as most JRPG, you kill the last boss when he is at the cusp of becoming an unkillable god
>BG1 and 2
Those are their GOALS, they don't actually become God and you don't actually fight God, you thwart them before they can succeed. The only villain that fits is in Throne of Bhaal
Let me state the reasons why jarpigs are bad:
>Jarpigs are bad because you almost always play with predetermined characters with predetermined stats and backgrounds, this negatively affects the "role-playing" aspect of said "games".
>Most of them remove almost all player agency, resulting in less immersion.
>Jarpiggers don't like branching stories where you can choose which actions you should take or not, which opinions you should disagree with or not etc.
>Jarpigs are incredibly linear and straightforward, which means that these games have far less replayability value than an average RPG with multiple ways of solving problems and endings.
>Jarpigs are incredibly simple, so simple that even a toddler can pick it up and complete them. I mean, this shouldn't be a surprise as DQ is just an oversimplified version of Wizardry and Ultima.
>Jarpigs are incredibly formulaic, the vast majority of them have very samey themes, character archetypes, enemies and plot. They even have samey animu styles too.
All in all, I see no value in J"RPG" "games" where "role-playing" is next to non-existent.
that's because to the Japanese they see roleplaying as "you take the role of a preset character given to you and follow the script"
>AHHH I HAVE TO PLAY A CHARACTER WHO ALREADY EXISTS IN THE WORLD INSTEAD OF CREATING A BUTTFRICK UGLY Black person WITH A PINK AFRO TO LOOK COOL, ALOOF AND DETACHED TO MY FRIENDS
Kami die all the time in Shintoism, the conception of what it means to be a god is much smaller scale than the abrahamics. As a result, even when JRPGs have abrahamic-tier gods in them they are still considered to be partially mortal.
that's because Shinto gods are actually just powerful spirits.
>cant even be bothered to type his own 30-ish character question
why is op like this?
Who cares? It's a topic prompt. Stop overthinking stupid shit.
ah yes, I too enjoy SMT
Saving kittens is not part of SMT.
WRPGs be like
CHAPTER 1: kill 10 rats in a basement
FINAL CHAPTER: kill Satan
WRPGs be like
CHAPTER 1: kill rat
CHAPTER 5: bring 5 slices of bread
Posts like that keep YoshiP and Normura up at night, in tears presumably.
the lost kitty was the god u were suppose to kill
Would be kino
>2019
It's called pacing, dumbass. We seriously need to stop pretending the very concept of build up is somehow an issue.
>when you kill god but aren't even halfway done with the game yet
Only reason I hate jap games is because they always attempt to do this rug pulls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey
best post
None of them actually even deal with the capital G God anyway, its always power hungry psychopaths that think they are god. Or ancient aliens/constructs.
Or in the rare case its actually a divinity, its a setting where there are hundreds of such and they're basically on the same power level of men anyway at their weakest.
The west can't tell a pretender from the real god. Really makes you think.
This is literally Naruto.
But the answer is because everyone loves the local adventurer stuff, so you start off with simple things that make the character feel relatable. RPGs are all about progression, so your challenges become tougher and tougher. The ultimate challenge is attaining godhood, so you must either defeat someone else trying to achieve it or someone who already has. After that, the game has to end, as the character has reached the pinnacle of their growth and overcome the symbolically greatest challenge, transforming themselves from someone who can only solve small, individual problems to someone who's a master of their own destiny. They can go back to being a farmer or whatever if they want.
You don't like it only because it's been done to death, but you're also an adult and most of these games are made for kids.
Why do people who don't play JRPGs get so mad at the concept of them they've made up in their head?
seems to be common among the terminally online
same reason there are more satires of dating sims than actual genuine dating sims
same logic people use when shitting on fighting games
or simulator games
humans don't like people who are different to them
People without a healthy means of finding joy in life instead find it by locating socially acceptable targets and then attacking them.
It's basically a grown-up version of that kid who used to kick over other people's sand castles. They learned that their parents beat them if they act out like that so they learned to couch their urge to destruction in sophistry instead.
Too extravagant, occams razor applies
Most people hate things they don't know much about. Tale as old as time. All the culture war shit is too extravagant and wishful thinking. People aren't that complicated.
I honestly love it when a trivial thing snowballs into a huge conflict
>Twitter snip
>template threads
>vague question
Frick Black person OP
Fps be like
Chapter 1 Hit the shooting range
Final chapter...survive
WRPGs be like
Chapter 1: Have gay buttsex
Chapter 2: Have more gay buttsex
I would rather have gay sex than sit through Japanese humor
>I'd rather actually have gay sex, than have it look like I'm having gay sex but it's just the viewer is looking at the situation from the wrong angle
LMAO
No, I'd rather have gay sex than play Japanese video games.
The joke being is that I like girls, and I'd sacrifice my heterosexuality just to avoid playing a video game produced by Japan and likely containing examples of Japanese humor.
Well I'm straight for now, as long as I am never confronted with a Jap game.
It would make a hilarious trolley problem meme tbh
Do you want me to be gay? I'll suck the dick right off your body just please never make me "play" a visual novel.
>I-I'll s-suck your d-dick just don't let me play v-video games!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'll play video games, just not Jap ones.
I'll flip you over and butter you like a biscuit if it means I never have to install a gacha game or heaven forbid some Tales abomination
>I'm not gay but I'd sacrifice my heterosexuality at the drop of a hat
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
yeah, we can tell
Yeah I said it
Jrpg VS gay sex
Obvious choice
Why does Ganker perpetuate this meme? When I think of funny media, I mostly think of Japanese stuff. Meme culture itself basically came from Japan.
you moronic asshomosexuals need to stop with this shit go to /x/ or wherever this gay religion shit flinging isn't bannable for being off-topic
The TES games end with killing god.
Whether it's a dragon god, an oblivion god, or a dunmer god.
I don't think japs are satanic, just heathens
Wow a survey of ten moronic people in america. Nice empirical evidence bro, I've seen surveys of americans, the ones on the street can't answer questions like "what date were the 9-11 attacks?" or "where is france?"
Would you guys play this game?
>George Floyd beats you in a cutscene even though you won
That's what happened to Chauvin
No. There are high IQ denominations, but that's just because people change denominations based on IQ. On the whole, IQ is correlated with the number of deities people believe in. The dumbest people in the world believe in magic and spirits and animism, next polytheism, then monotheism, then atheism. Although there's a better correlate with IQ: skin color :^)
>then monotheism, then atheism.
Eh not seeing it.
>godless le bad because they don't feel invested in ethnonationalism!
Still not a study about IQ.
You do know that the religious are trying to get this world destroyed, right? They're just trying to do it by fulfilling their prophecies instead of going for the simple solution and smashing that mf red button.
These polls do test for IQ, there are objectively correct and incorrect opinions on these matters.
And how do you know God doesn't disagree with you? What would you do?
1. No there isn't, because not everyone has the same goal.
2. Intelligence does not have to be correlated with the correct opinion.
That says nothing about IQ and it makes sense high IQ people would be pro-immigration.
You're a worthless shiteating twitterBlack person, next time use your own words instead of using excrement shat out by other inferior beings like yourself. Now eat shit and die.
games where God is just a dude? truly neutral?
>omg I'm le depressed pls feel bad for me
That's just as bad. It's basically emotional trash on par with a visual novel.
You've posted this thread a number of times greater than the number of games you can name that do this.
Because twitterhomosexuals don't play JRPGs; they just shitpost about how everyone is about killing God.
For me, it's this kind of game.
Chapter 1: Kill God
Final Chapter: Crack an egg
Which ones actually start like this? Can't think of games with this premise where you start like a Naruto character looking for missing cats
trails series. Ys.
its cool
>chapter 1: steal some dude's possession hidden in a tree stump
>final chapter: kill god
Guess the game.
Hint: it's a western RPG.
Morrowind?
Of course.
Western RPG
>Chapter 1: Kill God
>FINAL CHAPTER : USE YOUR TEAM OF ETHICALLY AND SEXUALLY DIVERSE CHARACTERS TO CONVERT ALL THE TOWN'S CHILDREN INTO DRAG QUEENS!
Why are western RPGs the Cure Ace of video games?
Why are JRPGs so trash?
>WROW stakes get higher as the story progresses?!?!?
Lot of JRPGs are stupid, but c'mon Black person. This is storytelling 101. You have to increase the stakes.
>chapter 1: save god
>chapter 100: kill a lost kitty
when is posting twitter screenshots becoming a bannable offense?
Now.
different cultural connotation as to what gods are
if the nibelungenlied was foundational to american mythology you can bet a lot more games would have you slaying a dragon at the end
>Chapter 1: kill lost kitty
>Final Chapter: find God
it just makes the status of god meaningless when some teen can kill them. what even is a god at that point? it’s no different from a person who trains really hard. in actual myth the gods were bizarre dream logic beings that a mortal was mostly completely powerless against, you either won their favour or sided with a god that didn’t like the god that was troubling you. if you don’t have that clear sense of division the magical realm becomes boring and equivalent to a number increasing on a stat. this is why JRPGs never get me massively invested in the actual setting, they’re all fairly disposable because they all feel like a shallow puddle which rotates around the MC. if you fellate my player character to the point they defeat gods it doesn’t make me feel powerful, it makes the world feel empty and without a proper sense of depth or weight.
NOOO!! WE NEED AN OPEN WORLD GAME WHERE YOU YOU GET ALL YOUR ABILITIES UP FRONT AND YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT BEING LIMITED BY A TRIFLING LINEAR NARRATIVE
>CHAPTER 1: find lost kitty
>FINAL CHAPTER: kill god using a callback to the lost kitty chapter
they have no goals.
Epilogue: It's revealed that the lost kitten you saved leveled up until it became god.
>story starts out modest and simple
>eventually evolves into absolute insanity
I genuinely love this trope.
>big finale has you kill the suped-up god version of the villain
>shortly after you have to fight the villain in human form 1 on 1
>it goes on so long both the hero and villain become exhausted and just start throwing punches at each other
Name a more kino trope.
>FFXVI is about Jesus Christ (Logos) extinguishing the last (The Ultima) being of a race of alien refugees, who are also parasites.
>Hahahaha guys he killed god! Such a classic JRPG trope. I guess the message is christianity is bad.
It's insane how little these people think about the content they consume. Just surface level thoughts that could have come from a seven-year-old.
whats a JRPG that both starts low stakes and stays relatively the same scope throughout? genuinely can't think of anything.
Japan's main religions have historically been Buddhism and Shinto, both of which are polytheistic. Gods aren't nearly as special in their culture as they are in ours.
IS that a PS1-era JRPG thing? I don't think many JRPGs outside SMT / Persona have you killing God these days
Because they're narcissistic attention seeking morons who's brains have been melted by the internet, and elon musk owning it now isn't going to change that one bit.
Oh JRPGs? Idk.
Yeah and those guys on Twitter, too
And that's a good thing. Especially if the cat becomes a party member and scratches God in the face.
I dunno about all that but I just wanna say I beat Live A Live last night and it was great.
The NTR thread is 2 blocks down.
obsessed
Every single character in that world is going to find some lost cat. Someone out of them all can kill god. The story, by necessity, follows the one that can kill god.