It's not like console physical is really fully physical nowadays, but it's sad to think that the majority of Ganker doesn't have a PC with an optical disk drive as their main PC, and half probably doesn't have a disk drive in their house at all.
I am excited. Despite being a huge MGSgay I've only played MGS3, MGR and MGSV. I'll finally get to experience MGS and MGS2. Can't wait enough for MGS4 to.
Just put on a stealth suit (that muffles your walking noise) and remember the basics of CQC. After a few completions I could beat it by just running around CQCing everyone.
Kill bosses with the tranq gun to get camo (or a tranq sniper rifle in The End's case)
God, if this isn't bait you missed out on so much by not playing these games in order.
How is it my fricking fault? MGS4 is locked behind the PS3, and I was always a nintendo+pc kind of guy. Tried playing MGS2 on PC but the port is awful.
Nope. MGS4 on PC is fully playable and has been for a good while. Completed it myself that way without any issues. It's a far better experience than the PS3 version thanks to 60fps.
I already have the HD collection on Xbox and can emulate the games on PC with upscaled textures if I want to, so I don't see the point. It's not like the money will be going to Kojima to fund whatever thing he's doing next anyway.
If there's a "Volume 2" with MGS4 and Peace Walker I'd be interested, though.
>Are ps3 emulators still shit?
Kinda since it depends on the game, but they (RPCS3) run MGS4 good enough to where there's a small community that's rebooted MGO2 and is even releasing new content for it.
I still have the original releases as well as the Legacy collection on PS3. It's cool that these are getting out there on newer system though. I'll probably still pick it up for the hell of it.
Full price for 2 NES/MSX games and 3 PS games. MGS 4, peace walker and V full price again. That's $120. You could buy a PS3 and get the Legacy collection
That's not what I meant. I mean that MGS2HD and 3HD for PC, PS5 and Switch are newly released games, as they were never on these platforms and Konami specifically had to port them now.
As for Legacy, MGS4 and MGS HD Collection were old games at that point. They were respectively released in 2008 and 2011, while Legacy was released in 2013. Legacy was a bundle of already released games, which could be purchased for even cheaper second handed.
You can already play all of these on PC with more content, there's nothing to be excited about really. The only benefit is MGS3 will run at a constant frame rate I guess, and maybe that there will be ultrawide or 144hz support but I kinda doubt that it will come natively.
I am as excited as anyone else whose played and beaten all those games 15 years ago. I'll pick it up to 100% again, at least im happy for all the zoomers getting into this series properly now instead of MGS5
It's fricking garbage and poison for the MGS story. The idea a whole generation of zoomers will get to experience the good games without having the story ruined by that shit is genuinely exciting.
I think Ghost Babel and the PSP games are a sure bet. I'd be surprised if they ported Twin Snakes. I can only assume that they're gonna port MGS4, but I wonder if they're going to leave all of the PlayStation reference intact.
It's a pretty good deal imo you get 7 games for 60 bucks. I'll probably get the Switch version for portability unless there's any major issues with the ports.
just a prediction based on a typical japanese pc game, the framerate will be locked to 60 and we'll be lucky if we even get graphics options other than resolution
it's the same shit we got on the ps3 with the same content from substance/subsistence missing, except now it's more expensive
>we'll be lucky if we even get graphics options other than resolution
I'll gone one further and guess that they won't even have resolution options since the promotional materials is all native resolution & the HD collection games seem to be running in 720p like they did on PS3/Xbox360. If they upgraded resolutions across the board then you'd think they'd promote it on their marketing material.
I have them form my Series S (and have a disk release of it for the PS3). I will be buying every MGS collection Konami puts out, even if Survive ends up in one of them.
if i buy the disk version of this, how does the achievement list work? i have 2 and 3 from the digital bundle that got delisted, and they share an achievement list. peacewalker was its own listing digitally, and has its own achievement list. i find it weird.
I'm very excited. Excited for the PC releases to be modded every which way to finally give us true content complete definitive versions of MGS 1-3. Depending on how crazy the modders get we could have the Yoshi shit, Ape Escape parts, skateboarding, all of it. Finally all of it in one place.
Will it really have acid? Snakes revenge? Will it restore the mgs3 dream demo? Will mgs2 have the theater where you can swap out models in cutscenes? Snake vs monkey? Twin snakes? will you be able to play mgo offline with bots? No???
Then its NOT A FRICK A """"""MASTER COLLECTION"""""" YOU STUPID FRICKING asiaticS GOD FRICKING DAMN IT IM SICK AMD FRICKING TIRED OF SO CALLED DEFINITIVE MASTER BIG BOY ULTRA SUPER MEGA HYPER FULL HD 40LBA OF PUSSY AND EDITIONS THAT DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THE CONTENT FRICKING JAPS FRICKING SLANT EYED FRICKING FLYING SUICIDE MONKIES FRICK STOP ROTTING YOUR BRAINS ON TENTACLE HENTAI AND FRICKING 14 YEAR OLDS LONG ENOUGH TO LEARN WHAT A WORD ACTUALLY MEANS BEFORE YOU USE A TERM LIKE MASTER COLLECTION
Guy Savage (MGS 3 Nightmare level) is on a different engine than the rest of MGS 3 so that's why it wasn't included in the HD remasters for PS3 and Xbox 360 and Vita, so I highly doubt it will be included with these "new" versions if the theory that theyre the exact same rings true.
I am. I look forward to play MGS2 VR missions on Switch
I wish MG1 and 2 are separate games instead of being shoved inside MGS3 but judging by the box art, that may not be the case.
If you've never played any of the others, it's good to start here with MGS1, then play 2 and 3. After that comes 4, Peace Walker, then V. You'll have to wait for a port of 4 since it's PS3 exclusive to this day.
>switch
aaaaaand expectations lowered into the center of the fricking Earth
I can already hear the cope now >well they couldn't add X because they had to keep the games compatible with the switch!
Then maybe don't release it on the switch at all, fricker?
>I bet the entire collection won't even take 40% of the capacity of a Switch cart.
Actually Konamii cheaped the frick out and only used a 2 GB cart while forcing you to download the rest.
This was much more intuitive than the pressure sensitive controls. Was nice not accidentally slitting someone's throat because you pressed the button too hard.
>You aim, you shoot. If you want to cancel the shoot, you just put the gun away.
>Hold-up guard from behind >Walk in front of him and aim at head so he drops a dog tag. >Unequip weapon so you don't shoot him. >Guards seizes the opportunity and kicks you so hard in the balls that you do a flip. An alert is triggered.
Obviously there's ways to not have this happen, but it would be a lot nicer if controls were completely functional.
Why should I be excited? They already pulled a collection off of digital storefronts to incentivize people to buy this. Who's to say they won't do it again.
the textures are also getting more and more artifacted with every rerelease
is someone at konami saving them as fricking jpgs what the shit
also someone fricked up the view angle for the 2d fence wiring
if these are promoshots, imagine how bad release is going to be
this
what the frick is this non-compression. It's like they purposely left everything with huge filesizes just because they could.
It is compressed.
They shoved in 4k assets, because literally everyone wants them, for some reason. This is the future people chose by not b***hing about it actively.
why can't they give us the peace walker controls in mgs3 like they did on the 3ds version?
i want to play mgs3 with peace walker controls with 60 fps and no crashes
its called creole like spicy
are you spicy enough to handle it? need to read a book candle lit? Never had a gf to fondle tit? Hush little baby don't say a word, demetrius is gonna buy you a mocking bird and if that mocking bird don't sing...
Oh wow I'm so excited to play a game from the 90's I've played on 3 different generations of consoles.
Oh wait it's like a 4th remake of the original and like the 3rd for 2/3
I am. I intend to get it on PS5 though, cause I don't trust the PC ports to not be abysmal. If they're okay, I'll grab them too in a few years. I'm looking forward to playing MGS3 again.
>two of the most important events in the whole story >never remade >games that don't need remakes get them instead because it's cheaper and requires significantly less talent
I'd say hate this industry, but entertainment in general is suffering from this.
Only the gist of them is important, not the actual games. Playing them just fills you with more questions, like "whatever happened to Holly White? Whatever happened to the Oilix? Whatever happened to (...)"
These two games could simply not exist and it wouldn't affect the story of the rest of the games at all, as they already tell you everything you need to know about what happened in them. And the reason Kojimbo never made proper remakes/retellings of those events is that he never made a game that directly dealt with events we already knew about.
It was pretty clear that Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, and the Phantom Pain were building towards MG1 and 2 remakes to come full circle. It's a damn shame he didn't get that far. That being said, it was absolutely his fault for being fired.
>It was pretty clear
No it wasn't.
If that was Kojima's MO then we would have seen games about BB becoming le evil villain onscreen, les enfants terribles project onscreen, the formation of the patriots onscreen, a scene where BB saves sniper wolf and gets called "Saladin" so that you could clap and say I GET THE REFERENCE, etc etc etc
She was literally Meryl before Meryl. Snake escapes with her at the end and they should have been together at the beginning of MGS living in a cozy shack in alaska.
Twin Snakes was one of the first anti-soul remakes.
It was.
[...] >first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game as well as multiple boss battles
Play on a harder difficulty. >worse voice acting
Subjective >worse music
Subjective >moron tier cutscene animation
Fits with the plot, then.
>Play on a harder difficulty.
Doesn't help. You can still just put every guard to sleep in mere seconds after you've entered an area because the levels weren't designed with first person aiming in mind. Brain dead easy. Not to mention you can defeat multiple boss battles by just standing still in first person mode and spam headshots, even on extreme.
The voice acting isn't subjective. It's even the same voice actors, so anyone who's not autistic can tell they phoned it in the second time around.
Nah, Twin Snakes just exposed the original version was SOULLESS.
Also here's Snake dodging fricking tank fire in the original, soulless version.
They fixed this in Twin Sankes.
Twin Snakes did more damage than good for the franchise, I see so many people playing the series for the first time and unfortunately some pick Twin Shit because they don't know any better. It's a downgrade in unironically every single regard
It's good for those who need a babymode, I'll give you that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only negative thing you can think of is that there is mario and yoshi toys in an office and Snake matrix dodges
Theres literally nothing wrong with the game
If Kojima said it was the definitive version youd be sucking his dick in agreement
11 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't even refer to Mario or Yoshi once. Try to keep up.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You dont need to. Thats the only reason kojimbo gave
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Theres literally nothing wrong with the game
Except the broken gameplay and dogshit music.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Youre just making shit up. I beat it with no problems
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I beat it with no problems
Yeah, no one will have any problems with how dogshit easy the broken gameplay is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
the levels were not designed with first person aiming in mind
they added it because it was a feature in MGS2 without any regard to whether or not it would break the game (protip: it does, it makes it trivially easy to clear out entire areas with the tranquilizer gun, which wasn't in the original game either)
>problems with how dogshit easy the broken gameplay is
You mean how fun it is
11 months ago
Anonymous
>fun is removing any challenge that the game had
Nintendies, everyone.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You will never be a woman
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Nintendies assume everyone is a troony like them
lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're a troony for thinking a game is "easy" because you play on easy mode rather than the new hard mode.
11 months ago
Anonymous
How is hard mode going to stop anyone from using first person mode to put every guard to sleep from the other side of the map?
Nintendies can't even play their own games.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you shooting people in a STEALTH game?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you have to ignore game mechanics because you just have to, OKAY??!!!!!
Besides, MGS1/TTT forces you to engage guards at multiple points in the game. Not to mention most of the bosses who you can just headshot spam while not even moving yourself in TTT.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You just suck at the game
11 months ago
Anonymous
Suck how? It's a piss easy babymode version of MGS.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Tranq has always been EZ Mode for MGS. You are complaining about easy mode when you're playing easy mode.
11 months ago
Anonymous
TTT is as easy with the lethal pistol as well. Actually easier, since it damages the bosses more.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>SHOOTING PEOPLE
Again, you just suck at the game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Gotta shoot the bosses and the forced encounters. So much cope. Give me more.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>she ran at any point instead of crawling through the whole game
you didn't beat the game sis
11 months ago
Anonymous
Dilate troony
11 months ago
Anonymous
nah it's actually harder, the AI is vastly improved and has greater vision range
11 months ago
Anonymous
It isn't. >greater vision range
Hardly. Besides it doesn't matter since you can deal with them without getting anywhere near their vision range, because the levels are so open.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you sound like someone who hasn't played the game tbh it's immediately obvious the guards can see you from further away
11 months ago
Anonymous
I've suffered through it on Dolphin. >the guards can see you from further away
The increase is tiny, and as I've said, it doesn't matter because you can still headshot them from the other side of the map without ever coming close to their area of vision.
11 months ago
Anonymous
or you could play the game normally?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Using the mechanics the game gives you is playing normally, but please cope more.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this completely optional feature RUINS the game
lol alright man
11 months ago
Anonymous
>completely optional feature
lol >having to keep yourself from pressing certain buttons on the controller to make the game better
11 months ago
Anonymous
so you agree the game is better and more difficult than the original if you're not cheesing every area? I'll accept that concession.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No way, gay. Still suffers from dogshit voice acting and music. And the original's extreme is more punishing than Twin Snakes'.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And the original's extreme is more punishing than Twin Snakes'.
how? you already conceded that the guards have worse vision range and dumber AI. also twin snakes has the option of getting a game over when spotted which is far more punishing than mgs1
11 months ago
Anonymous
>a game over when spotted which is far more punishing than mgs1
instant game over is easier than 5 minutes of evasion mode
11 months ago
Anonymous
>losing isn't as bad as having a higher chance of losing
LOL dude you're so braindead
11 months ago
Anonymous
Instantly placing you at the start of the area without actually having to engage the enemies is easier, yes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it's so much easier to hide in grass for 15 minutes until evasion mode ends and guards return to their normal routes
t. you
>WTF GETTING A FAILSTATE FOR MAKING A MISTAKE? SOUNDS LAME >DOOOD JUST STAND AROUND FOR 15 MINUTES THIS IS WAY BETTER
these arguments get more and more desperate KEK
11 months ago
Anonymous
>all caps
damn bro your hands are shaking, calm down
11 months ago
Anonymous
>0 counter argument
alright so that's another concession lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
>greentext screeching >argument
lmao
11 months ago
Anonymous
>STILL no counter argument
is this the part where you stall until the thread 404s so you don't have to engage? I'll take your 3 concessions and call it there then. You may have the last word (I won't read it lole)
11 months ago
Anonymous
>STILL no argument
jesus man
11 months ago
Anonymous
>STAND AROUND FOR 15 MINUTES >he needs to sit still while waiting for evasion to pass
lmao
git gud
11 months ago
Anonymous
Only people who don't know how to play the game stand still.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it's so much easier to hide in grass for 15 minutes until evasion mode ends and guards return to their normal routes
t. you
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only really difficult part in either game on extreme are the boss battles and the forced battles against genome soldiers. You take more damage in the original version.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>PC
You didn't play the game, let alone beat it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you're wasting your time with that moron, he's probably shitposting at this point
11 months ago
Anonymous
>no challenge = fun
You have to be 18 to post here
11 months ago
Anonymous
the levels were not designed with first person aiming in mind
they added it because it was a feature in MGS2 without any regard to whether or not it would break the game (protip: it does, it makes it trivially easy to clear out entire areas with the tranquilizer gun, which wasn't in the original game either)
Except the difference is that the RE1 remake is actually pretty good
>It's an upgrade in unironically every single regard
Fixed. They're butthurt sonygays bitter they don't get to play the definitive version, this has always been the case.
Name one thing from this piece of shit that's an upgrade, you literally can't
>first person mode makes the game easy mode, bosses are a joke >the voice acting is horrible, most of the cast sound like they don't even want to be there >the music is objectively inferior >atmosphere completely ruined by the too clean-esque graphics and cringe matrix cutscenes >stuck on a literal who console
11 months ago
Anonymous
>stuck on a literal who console
Seething.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Only 20m GameCubes were sold worldwide, cope
11 months ago
Anonymous
>first person mode makes the game easy mode, bosses are a joke
Modern gameplay added for sophisticated gamers that make troglodytes like yourself seeth >the voice acting is horrible, most of the cast sound like they don't even want to be there
Removing racist accents and giving them a good director to make it not sound like a 1980s children's cartoon makes TS superior >the music is objectively inferior
Having an actual variety of music instead of the same 2 droning themes makes TS superior >atmosphere completely ruined by the too clean-esque graphics and cringe matrix cutscenes
A functioning military base doesn't look run down? How dare they do that! And the superior cutscenes puts it in line with the series. >stuck on a literal who console >Being exclusive to a Nintendo console infuriates you
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon thinks I'm going to argue with him that the Twin Shit is................. SHIT! LMFAOOOOOO!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Getting this BTFO
The original will never have as much SOUL as this
11 months ago
Anonymous
>shinier is better
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Snoy remakes
11 months ago
Anonymous
that's on the switch
11 months ago
Anonymous
Tendies are mentally disabled.
GTA remakes are on every platform, the frick you talking about?
>Snoy remakes are so bad, not even Nintendo can save it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Snoy remakes
That's where you are wrong, troony tendie.
>PC
You didn't play the game, let alone beat it.
cope
11 months ago
Anonymous
seethe harder
11 months ago
Anonymous
Like you? No thanks, gay.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, you're just projecting.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Like you? No way, gay.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, you're just projecting.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Like you? No way, gay.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, you're just projecting.
11 months ago
Anonymous
yawn
11 months ago
Anonymous
Tendies are mentally disabled.
11 months ago
Anonymous
GTA remakes are on every platform, the frick you talking about?
>It's an upgrade in unironically every single regard
Fixed. They're butthurt sonygays bitter they don't get to play the definitive version, this has always been the case.
>first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game
Modern gameplay added for sophisticated gamers that make troglodytes like yourself seeth >worse voice acting
Removing racist accents makes it superior >worse music
Having an actual variety of music instead of the same 2 droning themes makes TS superior >moron tier cutscene animation
Puts it in line with the rest of the series.
Reminder that Twin Snakes is the CANON version.
The voice acting in TS lacks the impact that the original had. They sound like they're just going through the motions because they did it all before already. And Snake doing gay matrix moves. Frick that.
>first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game as well as multiple boss battles >worse voice acting >worse music >moron tier cutscene animation
bravo
>first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game as well as multiple boss battles
Play on a harder difficulty. >worse voice acting
Subjective >worse music
Subjective >moron tier cutscene animation
Fits with the plot, then.
>first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game as well as multiple boss battles >worse voice acting >worse music >moron tier cutscene animation
bravo
>first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game
Modern gameplay added for sophisticated gamers that make troglodytes like yourself seeth >worse voice acting
Removing racist accents makes it superior >worse music
Having an actual variety of music instead of the same 2 droning themes makes TS superior >moron tier cutscene animation
Puts it in line with the rest of the series.
Reminder that Twin Snakes is the CANON version.
there's literally NOTHING exciting about a re-release of a re-release, zoomers it's understandable since it might be the first time they touch these games but millennial consoomers are mentally ill
>enter any area >enter first person mode >put everyone to sleep >proceed to next area >boss battle >enter first person mode >spam headshots until you win
twin snakes gays
Because I own all three of the original releases and the PS3 collection for good measure. I cared about the Metal Gear series when it mattered instead of being excited for Konami to dance its corpse around because they smell the easy money a re-release will give them.
I am so excited about playing the game I already played so many times on so many supports oh yeah...
If there's no online for mgs3 then frick off israelitenami.
Portable Ops, Peace Walker, MGS4.
Probably gonna use Ghost Babel as the bait for the complete set like NES Gear/Snake's Revenge were for Vol 1.
AC!D duo could be on either side of the coin, though I'd pitch them in the main set given how cheap NES/GB(C) games are to manage.
I was gonna offer Rising in there, but they probably think its recent meme 'prestige' is grand enough for a standalone release afterwards instead of in one of the collections to make more money, like how they'd do MGSV on 9th gen consoles.
a lot of people forget that MGR and V never got "next-gen" versions, Rising never released on the 8th generation, and V never got a re-release for the 9th
I 100% expect Vol. 2 to be Peace Walker, V and then Rising, and whatever little extras Konami throws in
MGS1 runs awfully on original hardware and on console emulation, it quite often dips below 30 fps, especially in FPV
I'd recommend emulating MGS1 on Duckstation and overclocking the ps1 cpu to 200%, this is as easy as dragging a slider, it ensures you get a constant 30 fps.
>If you're already on PC, can't you just play the PC port?
the OG pc port is janky and basically hacked together. The team behind it literally pirated the soundtrack for the original to insert it into the port, the music doesn't even loop correctly. There's so many more things wrong with it that the ps1 version definitely feels like the correct way to play it
Remakes and remasters are fine and all but they are supposed to supplement actual new games. Its very hard to say "MGS is back!" when its games we've already played.
I'd rather have a brand new Metal Gear than a MGS3 remake, yeah maybe it would be bad, but if they cant make good new games they cant make good remakes either, thats my take on it.
Cuz I already played these games, and have them on their original platforms and on my Xbox 360.
I'm really curious about Vol.2 however. 4 is still the only Metal Gear I have yet to play. I have played everything including the shitty NES games, Ghost Babel, the Acid games, Portable Ops, and Survive. But 4 has always been elusive to me.
Portable Ops deserves a full Remake more than Snake Eater tbh. SE still plays perfectly fine, PO on the other hand has a great atmosphere and story but the gameplay is dogshit despite a lot of great ideas.
Because they are using visuals from Bluepoint remaster versions instead of the og PS2 ones
Because they won't include the option to change controls
Because they won't include normal third person camera for MGS1&2
Because they won't include sneaking using D-pad
Because they won't include sneaking in crouch mode
Because they won't include interrogating guards
Because they won't include CQC
Because they won't include shooting and moving at the same time
Because they won't include new outfits
Because they won't include new weapons
Because they won't include a better interface
Because they won't include all the cut content
never forget that konami made la creatividad into the worldly renowned video game auteur also known as el steve jobs de los videojuegos. without konami he would be a literal nobody. now that he's gone forever konami will have the opportunity to create another big boss who will shape the future of mgs series. and if you think a country of 125 million people can't produce another kojima you're delusional.
It's real ironic how they always beg for them to remake 9-10/10 games which can still be played if they want to. What would make sense is remaking games which had a great concept but fell short, or remaking something from 2D to 3D. Also I wouldn't be surprised if people just didn't know how to get a hold on the original games because they can't download them on phone or console.
so what, they're timeless classics and mgs3 didn't have official PC release so far. I often revisit mgs1, at least once per year. mgs2 much less and I've beaten 3 only 4 times but might do it again on PC this year if they don't frick it up too much.
cause I own all those games like three times already, only reason to be hyped is that I don't need to touch the piece of shit ps3 console to play mgs3.
The new consoles don't have controllers with pressure sensitive buttons
This is a big deal, specially for mgs games (in fact, probably only for mgs games)
Looking forward for the Switch version to play them comfy portable, sucks that the physical version is all digital with an empty cartridge as a key, they should have put at least one of the games in there and have the rest downloadable, but that's expecting too much from Konami.
konami had an opportunity to build off of the HD Collection, make it way better and increase the resolution but based on all the footage they've released from it they've done none of that. It looks to be the same exact HD Collection from 2011, as in they literally did not even increase the resolution.
>decent PC ports of 1, 2 and 3 >mgs4 is going to be released from PS3 hell
this is good anon and they're making metal gear triangle if you want a new game (but it will be shit without kojimas involvement)
Its the, what? 3rd time they are releasing this collection? Still no MGS4. Missing other games that were included in previous collections. If you know how to emulate this package is even more of a waste of effort and money. Awfully moronic. Thank goodness for moron zoomers who cant into emulation or these lazy rom packs would never sell on modern consoles.
pcsx2 is fricking garbage, 3ds version is ugly and downgraded which makes it pointless to emulate, bluepoint version is full of shitty compromises. I'm not drinking any of that poison.
Same with "Reddit spacing" for just using line breaks for paragraphs and shit, without understanding what that term means or why it's related to Reddit.
I predict that the steam versions will definitely have mods that improve upon the collections shortcomings. The biggest question from me is what will MGS1 look like? Will it be just like the PS1 version with all the jitter? Or will the rendering be revamped with the correct geometry coupled with texture smoothing?
Depends. If it's running via an emulator (i.e. it's basically an emulated 360 version and not a native port) then options may be limited. That's a worst case scenario but I'm prepared for Konami to fully half ass it.
Could someone explain the timeline to me? I'm an absolute brainlet
I played 1, mgsv, ground zeros, revengeance .
Most hrs in V because is fun
So, venom snake is the medic right?
And what happens next?
I've seen a picture with the order of games but I'm extremely moronic is venom snake the old coof snake in 4? And which one is in the metal gear solid 1 game?
dude go read mgs wiki for that. mgs timeline is frickhuge, convoluted and impossible to summarize in one post. better yet save yourself from spoilers and play the master collection when it gets out. if you want to play in chronological order then play 3>2>1.
Venom/Medic acts as Big Boss
Real Big Boss grows army
Solid and Liquid grow up
Solid kills "Big Boss"/Venom
Solid kills Big Boss for real
Liquid attempts insurrection, wants Big Boss dna
Solid defeats Liquid
AI control/Nanomachines son/gay shit
Timeline is MGS3(>POOPS)>PW>GZ>PP>MG1>MG2>MGS>MGS2>MGS4(>MGR)
You play as Naked Snake in MGS3 through GZ (Big Boss)
You play Venom in PP (Fake Big Boss)
You play Solid Snake in MG1 through MGS and also MGS4 (where he is Old Snake)
You play as Raiden in MGS2 and MGR
The layout of Shadow Moses was kept mostly in tact. It was designed around being a top down shooter with limited aiming and movement and where your field of view is only as big as the screen. A lot of the areas are wide open as a result.
First person lets you see most of the guards and tranq them from a huge distance, so you're rarely at risk of being discovered. MGS2 got around this by having much more segmented and/or vertically designed rooms, with platforms, blocked railings, etc, but it was also designed with that POV in mind.
The areas are so open you can just pop in first person mode and put everyone to sleep without ever even going near them.
It also allows you to defeat bosses like Ocelot and Raven by just standing still and spamming headshots while they do nothing.
I have it physically to, but on PS3 which I don't keep hooked up anymore. I want it on Steam for easy access as well as so it's more available for new players.
>Do we even know if it'll have cheevos?
2 and 3 will almost certainly have the same achievements that were in the HD collection release. No idea if they'll bother to add any to MGS1.
I assume they will just copy/paste trophy lists from ps3 collection. MGS2 is a nightmare to Platnium, MGS3 is not too bad. I imagine MGS1 will be simple.
Adding new event triggers to old games is a pain that devs will not have time or effort for. They will be desperately rushing to just get game mostly functional in time for release. It’s why 99% of re-releases put trophies on things that already have a definitive action or reward when you do them, it’s easy to plug in “activate trophy now” on a flag that’s already set to activate once a bunch of conditions are met.
I imagine MGS1 will be bunch of story trophies, including both endings, maybe getting some of the funny hidden codec calls, or using box to fast travel. Maybe difficulty trophies. But I don’t think game has ability to track any interesting stuff.
Because Metal Gear was never fun. It's 100% story and 0% gameplay.
t. brainlet
(You)
No PC release?
https://steamdb.info/app/2131630/
nope, steam has em
PC never gets physical anymore, sad
It's not like console physical is really fully physical nowadays, but it's sad to think that the majority of Ganker doesn't have a PC with an optical disk drive as their main PC, and half probably doesn't have a disk drive in their house at all.
what the frick would you even do with the disk, most PCs nowadays don't even have a dvd or blu ray drive
Physical copies of games rarely come with an actual disk any more. It's just a case with a code.
No, those are exceptions not the norm anon.
Please go outside.
I am excited. Despite being a huge MGSgay I've only played MGS3, MGR and MGSV. I'll finally get to experience MGS and MGS2. Can't wait enough for MGS4 to.
You may be a huge gay but you're not a huge MGSgay
I've beaten MGS3 over 50 times. What am I?
a huge mgs3 fan
maybe a lil autistic
Everyone beat MGS3 50 times.
Pass user since 2018.
a zoomer
What’s your biggest tip for someone who beat it back on PS2 and hasn’t played again till now
Just put on a stealth suit (that muffles your walking noise) and remember the basics of CQC. After a few completions I could beat it by just running around CQCing everyone.
Kill bosses with the tranq gun to get camo (or a tranq sniper rifle in The End's case)
a gay who hasn't played MGS 1 or 2, or either of the MG games
Only 10 times more than me
I gotta step it up
God, if this isn't bait you missed out on so much by not playing these games in order.
>he hasn't even played the best game (mgs4)
How is it my fricking fault? MGS4 is locked behind the PS3, and I was always a nintendo+pc kind of guy. Tried playing MGS2 on PC but the port is awful.
You should have bought a PS2, and I'm not even joking. I'm not even trying to roast you for being a secondary here
just emulate them bruh
>Emulate mgs4
Are ps3 emulators still shit? Last time I checked emulating mgs4 was more infinitely harder than buying a pre-owned ps3
Nope. MGS4 on PC is fully playable and has been for a good while. Completed it myself that way without any issues. It's a far better experience than the PS3 version thanks to 60fps.
I already have the HD collection on Xbox and can emulate the games on PC with upscaled textures if I want to, so I don't see the point. It's not like the money will be going to Kojima to fund whatever thing he's doing next anyway.
If there's a "Volume 2" with MGS4 and Peace Walker I'd be interested, though.
>Are ps3 emulators still shit?
Kinda since it depends on the game, but they (RPCS3) run MGS4 good enough to where there's a small community that's rebooted MGO2 and is even releasing new content for it.
Just frick off and go buy ps triple, it's probably like 100 bucks
you shouldn't be posting here if you missed most of good shit from 6th and 7th gen
I have considered for a long time, but now I get to play them on my Switch or PC so what is the point?
I played every game but 4 and survive. even ac!d 1 and 2
AC!D 2 is great. Best spin-off.
is it worth slogging through ac!d 1 for? I got bored out of my skull with it but then again i hate cardshit
if emulating, you can fast forward
You can just skip AC!D 1, because the stories aren't really connected at all.
even the nokia game? even snake's revenge?
>but 4
>huge fan
>only played snake eater, meme game, and not a metal gear game
i bet you also like earthbound and haven't played it.
Different Amon here. I’m playing mother 1 is that tied to mgs in someway?
Idiot
shut up Boco
How did you know?
Frick off, Saucy.
How could you tell?
You are a gay alright, a massive gay
I'm interested to see if they have the gall to rerelease Metal Gear Solid 4 in Vol. 2
It'd be weird considering all the PS3 references built into the game.
because you can just emulate them for free. With mods. With better support. For free.
>modding mgs
>emulating mgs
>with those pressure sensitive controls
LMFAO
>not emulating the 360 versions of 2 and 3 which don't suffer from pressure bullshit
ngmi
>emulating the hd collection when I could just play the same version on newer hardware and even my switch
not yet bruh
>emulates with the motioninjoy plugin
checkmate
>uhm it phones back t-
local version
Where's the source code?
>not still having an original DS3 controller
can you use those usb dongles to connect a DS4 to a ps3? I just want to be able to use the home button, dont care about pressure sensitivity.
What mods?
I'm excited, but I want a new MGR console port.
mgs is shit, buddy.
Which version should I get? And no I don’t have a PC.
Personally I'm getting the switch version for some comfy gaming
That actually sounds pretty good
because I've played them already
I've played them all to death.
I still a little excited.
I was before learning I'd have to clear 30 gigs on my Switch.
MGS3 will have the Subsistence content, right?
The new camera, yes, MGO, absolutely not.
>no MGO
Then what's the point?
OG CAMERA SUCKED
It's the port of the HD version by Bluepoint, so no.
>can play mgs 1-3 on ps2, ps3, ps5
>but not on ps4
ridiculous
The 4 stands for gotten.
I still have the original releases as well as the Legacy collection on PS3. It's cool that these are getting out there on newer system though. I'll probably still pick it up for the hell of it.
Any noticeable differences in the releases?
It just won't feel right without Kojima...
You mean the plots will actually make sense for a change?
Cuz I've already played all of these games
I am excited. I've replayed these games every few years and am excited at the prospect of playing them on one of my favorite consoles, the Switch.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
#1 That's gacha
#2 That's gacha
I don’t like the controls :^(
Because MGS fricking sucks. You spend 50% of the game in cutscenes, 40% in codec calls, and 10% playing a shitty stealth game.
You should play Phantom Pain then.
Already have the HD 360 edition and The Essential Collection , but I will be picking it up for the switch.
If one of the volumes doesn't have the Portable Ops and Ac¡d then it's not a "master" collection.
homie, Snake's Revenge showed up, there's a good chance.
Hope you're right.
>Why aren't you excited Anon?
it's cool i guess but i have those games. along with MGS4.
Full price for 2 NES/MSX games and 3 PS games. MGS 4, peace walker and V full price again. That's $120. You could buy a PS3 and get the Legacy collection
The difference is that these newly released ports, while Legacy was a bundle of already released 2008 and 2011 titles on PS3.
It's the same HD versions of MGS 2 and 3 from the Legacy collection
That's not what I meant. I mean that MGS2HD and 3HD for PC, PS5 and Switch are newly released games, as they were never on these platforms and Konami specifically had to port them now.
As for Legacy, MGS4 and MGS HD Collection were old games at that point. They were respectively released in 2008 and 2011, while Legacy was released in 2013. Legacy was a bundle of already released games, which could be purchased for even cheaper second handed.
You can already play all of these on PC with more content, there's nothing to be excited about really. The only benefit is MGS3 will run at a constant frame rate I guess, and maybe that there will be ultrawide or 144hz support but I kinda doubt that it will come natively.
I am as excited as anyone else whose played and beaten all those games 15 years ago. I'll pick it up to 100% again, at least im happy for all the zoomers getting into this series properly now instead of MGS5
MGS 4 will 100% have some content cut in Volume 2 as well
We're all still hoping that MGS4 remains quarantined on PS3.
Why? Free that poor game already. Treating it like some ancient evil sealed away in that tomb
It's fricking garbage and poison for the MGS story. The idea a whole generation of zoomers will get to experience the good games without having the story ruined by that shit is genuinely exciting.
So is volume 2 more or less going to be the portable games + MGS4?
>Portable Ops
>Peace Walker
>Acid 1 & 2
>MGS4
>Ghost Babel??
>Twin Snakes??
MGSV probably, which is why Vol. 1 skipped PS4 and Xbone.
They can't do TTS without Nintendo signing off on it and who knows how that's gonna go.
I think Ghost Babel and the PSP games are a sure bet. I'd be surprised if they ported Twin Snakes. I can only assume that they're gonna port MGS4, but I wonder if they're going to leave all of the PlayStation reference intact.
Why would i care about washed out pseudo commentary only enjoyed by literal morons and weebs
Because it's fun?
well i have all these games already on original hardware
I own them all on my PS triple
What are the chances these get censored? I bet they’ll remove all the qt nip girls in bikinis posters from mgs2.
I'd like a 4k hdr mgsv remaster Konami pls
They won't bother, they could upscale it but they're not going to make new textures. This is a cash grab
It's already out on PC.
No keyboard no buy
because we already played these games aeons ago
I played these games already. Do you expect me to buy the games again?
It's a pretty good deal imo you get 7 games for 60 bucks. I'll probably get the Switch version for portability unless there's any major issues with the ports.
Same, usually I go PC but playing the MGS games on a handheld (that doesn't weigh 50 pounds) is too good to pass up.
just a prediction based on a typical japanese pc game, the framerate will be locked to 60 and we'll be lucky if we even get graphics options other than resolution
it's the same shit we got on the ps3 with the same content from substance/subsistence missing, except now it's more expensive
>we'll be lucky if we even get graphics options other than resolution
I'll gone one further and guess that they won't even have resolution options since the promotional materials is all native resolution & the HD collection games seem to be running in 720p like they did on PS3/Xbox360. If they upgraded resolutions across the board then you'd think they'd promote it on their marketing material.
no ps4 version (i don't want a ps5)
Crazy how you can play all of the mainline games in one console.
Because I just finished replaying the trilogy on ps3
Reminder that PS4 is the only PlayStation console that can't legally play MGS1.
>doesn’t have Ghost Babel
Big missed opportunity for that game to get some attention
Cause I already have this
Master Collection is an objectively better deal than this though. Also your 360 isn’t plugged in.
It's backwards compatible on both xbox one and series
I have them form my Series S (and have a disk release of it for the PS3). I will be buying every MGS collection Konami puts out, even if Survive ends up in one of them.
>made by bluepoint
which these are what these master collections are based on
>>made by bluepoint
>which these are what these master collections are based on
Well.. shit
No fricking way
What happened to the trees in background.
ive played mgs3 hd and it doesnt have that. the frick
if i buy the disk version of this, how does the achievement list work? i have 2 and 3 from the digital bundle that got delisted, and they share an achievement list. peacewalker was its own listing digitally, and has its own achievement list. i find it weird.
It will be separate and probably just have "MASTER COLLECTION" at the end of the game's name
i meant the 360 disk version of the hd collection sorry
Same thing, just separate games/list and probably same exact achievements
I'm very excited. Excited for the PC releases to be modded every which way to finally give us true content complete definitive versions of MGS 1-3. Depending on how crazy the modders get we could have the Yoshi shit, Ape Escape parts, skateboarding, all of it. Finally all of it in one place.
Because I have already played all of them.
Will it really have acid? Snakes revenge? Will it restore the mgs3 dream demo? Will mgs2 have the theater where you can swap out models in cutscenes? Snake vs monkey? Twin snakes? will you be able to play mgo offline with bots? No???
Then its NOT A FRICK A """"""MASTER COLLECTION"""""" YOU STUPID FRICKING asiaticS GOD FRICKING DAMN IT IM SICK AMD FRICKING TIRED OF SO CALLED DEFINITIVE MASTER BIG BOY ULTRA SUPER MEGA HYPER FULL HD 40LBA OF PUSSY AND EDITIONS THAT DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THE CONTENT FRICKING JAPS FRICKING SLANT EYED FRICKING FLYING SUICIDE MONKIES FRICK STOP ROTTING YOUR BRAINS ON TENTACLE HENTAI AND FRICKING 14 YEAR OLDS LONG ENOUGH TO LEARN WHAT A WORD ACTUALLY MEANS BEFORE YOU USE A TERM LIKE MASTER COLLECTION
Well, it does have Snake’s Revenge.
it says volume 1 you fricking moron
get testicular torsion you stupid mong they won't put in half the shit i b***hed about even if it goes to volume 42069, bite the fricking curb
Honestly I really hope Vol. 2 has Ghost Babel
Guy Savage (MGS 3 Nightmare level) is on a different engine than the rest of MGS 3 so that's why it wasn't included in the HD remasters for PS3 and Xbox 360 and Vita, so I highly doubt it will be included with these "new" versions if the theory that theyre the exact same rings true.
>The butchered HD versions with no skateboarding, no Ape Escape collab and no Guy Savage nightmare sequence
lol "butchered"
dude, they even fricked up the opening sequence in 3 and never fixed it, only the vita version had it right because it was ported by another company
no anon you don't understand a master collection doesn't NEED all the content just the bare minimum to fulfill contractual obligations :^)
>Butchered HD versions
Sure, dude. Sure.
Dilate troony
the hd release for 3 was a particular tainwreck
mgs2 was missing litterally all the rain from the opening
If it's coming to PC, then I'm excited because that means we'll finally have a definitive way to play MGS3 there without cutscene stuttering.
Its 4 months away dumbass
I am. I look forward to play MGS2 VR missions on Switch
I wish MG1 and 2 are separate games instead of being shoved inside MGS3 but judging by the box art, that may not be the case.
The eShop listing has MG 1 and 2 as a combined thing separate from MGS3
I already have the collection on PS3
Is it good to get this if I have never played a Metal Gear game before? I have Phantom Pain through PS+, if I should play that first.
If you've never played any of the others, it's good to start here with MGS1, then play 2 and 3. After that comes 4, Peace Walker, then V. You'll have to wait for a port of 4 since it's PS3 exclusive to this day.
Yeah it is.
Feel free to play V in the meantime; it is so far removed from the rest of the series that you won't miss out much.
I already have the HD edition
Because I already have the HD collection for 360 that I can play right now on my Xbox SeX
>switch
aaaaaand expectations lowered into the center of the fricking Earth
I can already hear the cope now
>well they couldn't add X because they had to keep the games compatible with the switch!
Then maybe don't release it on the switch at all, fricker?
lol, these are PS2 games m8, I bet the entire collection won't even take 40% of the capacity of a Switch cart.
oh im sure
its just they'll use the switch version as an excuse to be lazy Black folk
>I bet the entire collection won't even take 40% of the capacity of a Switch cart.
Actually Konamii cheaped the frick out and only used a 2 GB cart while forcing you to download the rest.
I can't keep buying the same games over and over for the rest of my life.
Think of it like upgrading the format of your favorite movies, like jumping from VHS to DVD, to Bluray.
>Buggy ports of games I already played multiple times over the past 30 years
Why would I be excited?
I am, I'm getting it for PC even though I have roms.
Because it's basically just a re-release of the essential collection. I've owned it for almost 15 years.
I own the originals and the first re-releases already. Why would I waste money a third time on zoomer slop?
>Why aren't you excited Anon?
Because I already played it and the PC port is shit without mouse/keyboard compatibility.
How are these gonna play without pressure sensitive buttons like the PS2 and ps3 had?
Like they already did on 360?
You aim, you shoot. If you want to cancel the shoot, you just put the gun away.
PCSX2 dev cope
I'm telling you how they're going to do it because Konami has no attention to detail without Kojima
Meds, now.
This was much more intuitive than the pressure sensitive controls. Was nice not accidentally slitting someone's throat because you pressed the button too hard.
>You aim, you shoot. If you want to cancel the shoot, you just put the gun away.
>Hold-up guard from behind
>Walk in front of him and aim at head so he drops a dog tag.
>Unequip weapon so you don't shoot him.
>Guards seizes the opportunity and kicks you so hard in the balls that you do a flip. An alert is triggered.
Obviously there's ways to not have this happen, but it would be a lot nicer if controls were completely functional.
How many fricking morons post this without knowing the 360 fixed these problems a decade ago?
How did they "fix" it?
There's literally controller display, dumbass.
>Have to push the stick down to aim
lol
>push
Press. It's a toggle.
And what's wrong about that? Left analog is something you almost never leave your finger from, unless you use d-pad
>pressing a button to perform an action
>bad
Gigacope.
See the webm, moron:
If I already have the Xbox 360 hd collection is there a difference with the new ports or should I just buy mgs1 separately?
dunno yet. higher res maybe
Why should I be excited? They already pulled a collection off of digital storefronts to incentivize people to buy this. Who's to say they won't do it again.
I am excited because zoomers and Twitch reactors will finally get to experience these kino games
Why would I give a shit about konami parading the corpse of a series that they killed?
I am, just not as excited as most people because I already own every mainline Metal Gear. Still buying it just for MGS3 on PC and the mod potential.
MGS is kind of mid. They're also charging $60+ for half the games without any real upgrades/updates.
I already have a ps3 anon.
I'm a boomer that already played them all multiple times
>720p internal resolution
the textures are also getting more and more artifacted with every rerelease
is someone at konami saving them as fricking jpgs what the shit
also someone fricked up the view angle for the 2d fence wiring
if these are promoshots, imagine how bad release is going to be
Meanwhile you can currently play them emulated on PC with HD upscaled textures and even working pressure controls
why does konami even bother
That's from the trailer. There's no hope, the trailer is literal 720p internal res footage
cuz i already replayed the collection on my ps3 a few months ago and i see no need to do it again
it's forced soul
I already played these games.
>switch physical
>only the first game is on the card
lmao
lol even
Wait scratch that not even the first is on there LOL
Why the frick do you need 12GB for a PS2 game, that shit could fit on a DVD.
And 1.4GB for 2 msx roms what the hell.
this
what the frick is this non-compression. It's like they purposely left everything with huge filesizes just because they could.
It is compressed.
They shoved in 4k assets, because literally everyone wants them, for some reason. This is the future people chose by not b***hing about it actively.
jesus christ i hate 4kiggers
just couldn't by happy with 1080 or 1440p always have to clamour for "next thing" like goddamn children
4K has been "current thing" for years now.
and its been totally unnecessary the entire time
i don't even use 4k despite having a newer monitor, its just wasted resources
Dumb commie.
its excess for the sake of excess and moronic
I would put $10 down on them using shitty AI upscaling measures to create those assets, too.
Fool me once, shame on you, not going to fool me twice with this hd scam shit
No. I can play those games right now on my PS3
why can't they give us the peace walker controls in mgs3 like they did on the 3ds version?
i want to play mgs3 with peace walker controls with 60 fps and no crashes
because it's a shit way to play the game
Running while crouched is just silly.
not being able to move while on first person is silly
it's called soul
its called bowl
It's called garbage that the first remake of MGS fixed then unfixed with the second remake
its called bob dole
soul my ass, the original mgs3 only had fixed camera they put Free cam on Subsistence are you telling me fixed camera have more soul?
>are you telling me fixed camera have more soul?
I'm telling you that, yes.
a soulless zoomer wouldnt understand
its called creole like spicy
are you spicy enough to handle it? need to read a book candle lit? Never had a gf to fondle tit? Hush little baby don't say a word, demetrius is gonna buy you a mocking bird and if that mocking bird don't sing...
>why can't they give us the peace walker controls in mgs3 like they did on the 3ds version?
That's what the Delta remake is for.
Oh wow I'm so excited to play a game from the 90's I've played on 3 different generations of consoles.
Oh wait it's like a 4th remake of the original and like the 3rd for 2/3
I am. I intend to get it on PS5 though, cause I don't trust the PC ports to not be abysmal. If they're okay, I'll grab them too in a few years. I'm looking forward to playing MGS3 again.
>two of the most important events in the whole story
>never remade
>games that don't need remakes get them instead because it's cheaper and requires significantly less talent
I'd say hate this industry, but entertainment in general is suffering from this.
Only the gist of them is important, not the actual games. Playing them just fills you with more questions, like "whatever happened to Holly White? Whatever happened to the Oilix? Whatever happened to (...)"
These two games could simply not exist and it wouldn't affect the story of the rest of the games at all, as they already tell you everything you need to know about what happened in them. And the reason Kojimbo never made proper remakes/retellings of those events is that he never made a game that directly dealt with events we already knew about.
It was pretty clear that Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, and the Phantom Pain were building towards MG1 and 2 remakes to come full circle. It's a damn shame he didn't get that far. That being said, it was absolutely his fault for being fired.
>It was pretty clear
No it wasn't.
If that was Kojima's MO then we would have seen games about BB becoming le evil villain onscreen, les enfants terribles project onscreen, the formation of the patriots onscreen, a scene where BB saves sniper wolf and gets called "Saladin" so that you could clap and say I GET THE REFERENCE, etc etc etc
>whatever happened to Holly White?
How is that relevant at all? She wasn't important enough to be more than a one-off character.
She was literally Meryl before Meryl. Snake escapes with her at the end and they should have been together at the beginning of MGS living in a cozy shack in alaska.
So? Not important at all. Snake shagged her. That's it.
MG1 has less story than one page of book and MG2 was already remade in 3D when MGS1 was released.
>because it's cheaper and requires significantly less talent
No, because nobody played MG 1 & 2, at least compared to MGS 3.
>release on switch
>no twin snakes
Fricking morons
i have faith on vol2
That shit version need to be buried forever
should still have been added as an exclusive or something for Nintendo while still having the og MGS1
>Sonygays hate actual SOUL
cope
Twin Snakes was one of the first anti-soul remakes.
>Play on a harder difficulty.
Doesn't help. You can still just put every guard to sleep in mere seconds after you've entered an area because the levels weren't designed with first person aiming in mind. Brain dead easy. Not to mention you can defeat multiple boss battles by just standing still in first person mode and spam headshots, even on extreme.
The voice acting isn't subjective. It's even the same voice actors, so anyone who's not autistic can tell they phoned it in the second time around.
Nah, Twin Snakes just exposed the original version was SOULLESS.
Also here's Snake dodging fricking tank fire in the original, soulless version.
They fixed this in Twin Sankes.
>snake gets smacked on his face like a moron
>removes color
bravo
Twin Snakes did more damage than good for the franchise, I see so many people playing the series for the first time and unfortunately some pick Twin Shit because they don't know any better. It's a downgrade in unironically every single regard
Only gays who suck Hackjimbos wiener think Twin Snakes is bad
Its the only way id ever play the first game just like RE1 remake
It's good for those who need a babymode, I'll give you that.
The only negative thing you can think of is that there is mario and yoshi toys in an office and Snake matrix dodges
Theres literally nothing wrong with the game
If Kojima said it was the definitive version youd be sucking his dick in agreement
Didn't even refer to Mario or Yoshi once. Try to keep up.
You dont need to. Thats the only reason kojimbo gave
>Theres literally nothing wrong with the game
Except the broken gameplay and dogshit music.
Youre just making shit up. I beat it with no problems
>I beat it with no problems
Yeah, no one will have any problems with how dogshit easy the broken gameplay is.
>problems with how dogshit easy the broken gameplay is
You mean how fun it is
>fun is removing any challenge that the game had
Nintendies, everyone.
You will never be a woman
>Nintendies assume everyone is a troony like them
lol
You're a troony for thinking a game is "easy" because you play on easy mode rather than the new hard mode.
How is hard mode going to stop anyone from using first person mode to put every guard to sleep from the other side of the map?
Nintendies can't even play their own games.
Why are you shooting people in a STEALTH game?
>you have to ignore game mechanics because you just have to, OKAY??!!!!!
Besides, MGS1/TTT forces you to engage guards at multiple points in the game. Not to mention most of the bosses who you can just headshot spam while not even moving yourself in TTT.
You just suck at the game
Suck how? It's a piss easy babymode version of MGS.
Tranq has always been EZ Mode for MGS. You are complaining about easy mode when you're playing easy mode.
TTT is as easy with the lethal pistol as well. Actually easier, since it damages the bosses more.
>SHOOTING PEOPLE
Again, you just suck at the game.
Gotta shoot the bosses and the forced encounters. So much cope. Give me more.
>she ran at any point instead of crawling through the whole game
you didn't beat the game sis
Dilate troony
nah it's actually harder, the AI is vastly improved and has greater vision range
It isn't.
>greater vision range
Hardly. Besides it doesn't matter since you can deal with them without getting anywhere near their vision range, because the levels are so open.
you sound like someone who hasn't played the game tbh it's immediately obvious the guards can see you from further away
I've suffered through it on Dolphin.
>the guards can see you from further away
The increase is tiny, and as I've said, it doesn't matter because you can still headshot them from the other side of the map without ever coming close to their area of vision.
or you could play the game normally?
Using the mechanics the game gives you is playing normally, but please cope more.
>this completely optional feature RUINS the game
lol alright man
>completely optional feature
lol
>having to keep yourself from pressing certain buttons on the controller to make the game better
so you agree the game is better and more difficult than the original if you're not cheesing every area? I'll accept that concession.
No way, gay. Still suffers from dogshit voice acting and music. And the original's extreme is more punishing than Twin Snakes'.
>And the original's extreme is more punishing than Twin Snakes'.
how? you already conceded that the guards have worse vision range and dumber AI. also twin snakes has the option of getting a game over when spotted which is far more punishing than mgs1
>a game over when spotted which is far more punishing than mgs1
instant game over is easier than 5 minutes of evasion mode
>losing isn't as bad as having a higher chance of losing
LOL dude you're so braindead
Instantly placing you at the start of the area without actually having to engage the enemies is easier, yes.
>WTF GETTING A FAILSTATE FOR MAKING A MISTAKE? SOUNDS LAME
>DOOOD JUST STAND AROUND FOR 15 MINUTES THIS IS WAY BETTER
these arguments get more and more desperate KEK
>all caps
damn bro your hands are shaking, calm down
>0 counter argument
alright so that's another concession lol
>greentext screeching
>argument
lmao
>STILL no counter argument
is this the part where you stall until the thread 404s so you don't have to engage? I'll take your 3 concessions and call it there then. You may have the last word (I won't read it lole)
>STILL no argument
jesus man
>STAND AROUND FOR 15 MINUTES
>he needs to sit still while waiting for evasion to pass
lmao
git gud
Only people who don't know how to play the game stand still.
>it's so much easier to hide in grass for 15 minutes until evasion mode ends and guards return to their normal routes
t. you
The only really difficult part in either game on extreme are the boss battles and the forced battles against genome soldiers. You take more damage in the original version.
>PC
You didn't play the game, let alone beat it.
you're wasting your time with that moron, he's probably shitposting at this point
>no challenge = fun
You have to be 18 to post here
the levels were not designed with first person aiming in mind
they added it because it was a feature in MGS2 without any regard to whether or not it would break the game (protip: it does, it makes it trivially easy to clear out entire areas with the tranquilizer gun, which wasn't in the original game either)
>Only gays who suck Hackjimbos wiener think Twin Snakes is bad
But TTS is Kojima's intended way to play MGS1
Except the difference is that the RE1 remake is actually pretty good
Name one thing from this piece of shit that's an upgrade, you literally can't
>first person mode makes the game easy mode, bosses are a joke
>the voice acting is horrible, most of the cast sound like they don't even want to be there
>the music is objectively inferior
>atmosphere completely ruined by the too clean-esque graphics and cringe matrix cutscenes
>stuck on a literal who console
>stuck on a literal who console
Seething.
Only 20m GameCubes were sold worldwide, cope
>first person mode makes the game easy mode, bosses are a joke
Modern gameplay added for sophisticated gamers that make troglodytes like yourself seeth
>the voice acting is horrible, most of the cast sound like they don't even want to be there
Removing racist accents and giving them a good director to make it not sound like a 1980s children's cartoon makes TS superior
>the music is objectively inferior
Having an actual variety of music instead of the same 2 droning themes makes TS superior
>atmosphere completely ruined by the too clean-esque graphics and cringe matrix cutscenes
A functioning military base doesn't look run down? How dare they do that! And the superior cutscenes puts it in line with the series.
>stuck on a literal who console
>Being exclusive to a Nintendo console infuriates you
Anon thinks I'm going to argue with him that the Twin Shit is................. SHIT! LMFAOOOOOO!
>Getting this BTFO
The original will never have as much SOUL as this
>shinier is better
>Snoy remakes
that's on the switch
>Snoy remakes are so bad, not even Nintendo can save it.
>Snoy remakes
That's where you are wrong, troony tendie.
cope
seethe harder
Like you? No thanks, gay.
Nah, you're just projecting.
Like you? No way, gay.
Nah, you're just projecting.
Like you? No way, gay.
Nah, you're just projecting.
yawn
Tendies are mentally disabled.
GTA remakes are on every platform, the frick you talking about?
>It's an upgrade in unironically every single regard
Fixed. They're butthurt sonygays bitter they don't get to play the definitive version, this has always been the case.
Anyone can play it on PC without problems. Cope more.
>PC version
La Le Lu Li LOL
I would rather play the original, completely unpatched and unmodded Integral version on PC than Twin Shit
>"intelligent" people need a version where any challenge is removed
You act like youre forced to make it easy
>you have to ignore game mechanics to give yourself a challenge
great game design
Eh, youre just grasping at straws. I cant help you be less of a homosexual
>Eh, youre just grasping at straws.
I'm not, but I'll let you cope until
>game is challenging if you want it to be
The voice acting in TS lacks the impact that the original had. They sound like they're just going through the motions because they did it all before already. And Snake doing gay matrix moves. Frick that.
>no twin snakes
Good.
Even Kojima says Twin Snakes is the definitive version.
Who the frick cares? Frick him hes a hack
Besides the game looks great
Because I already played and replayed these games years ago.
Where's Twin Snakes?
In the garbage bin
It was an objective improvement to the original mgs1, in many aspects.
>remaster
remake*
>It was an objective improvement to the original mgs1
HAHAHAHHAHAA
It was.
>first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game as well as multiple boss battles
Play on a harder difficulty.
>worse voice acting
Subjective
>worse music
Subjective
>moron tier cutscene animation
Fits with the plot, then.
>first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game as well as multiple boss battles
>worse voice acting
>worse music
>moron tier cutscene animation
bravo
>first person aiming breaks every single stealth area in the game
Modern gameplay added for sophisticated gamers that make troglodytes like yourself seeth
>worse voice acting
Removing racist accents makes it superior
>worse music
Having an actual variety of music instead of the same 2 droning themes makes TS superior
>moron tier cutscene animation
Puts it in line with the rest of the series.
Reminder that Twin Snakes is the CANON version.
not a real mgs game. forced remaster
I hope MGS4 never leaves PS3 purgatory because frick you
Because it doesn't include Peace Walker. If it's not in the collection, then it's an ass-collection at best.
I got the last collection on my Vita and I will buy this one on the switch.
only one of these not on xbox right now is 1. not buying 2 and 3 again just for 1.
Because I already own the superior version?
It's a bunch of games I already played
It's not coming out until October? You want us to drone on and on about the same shit every day until then? I bet you would shill.
Still don't know the quality of the ports. Or if they're even ports and not just emulated, which I could do already.
I'm interested in poking around files and see what they changed but that's about it
Is this the same thing as the ps3 and 360 version?
Also the switch release got fricked
>Also the switch release got fricked
How so?
90% has to be downloaded online
i have been playing this shit since the PS1 and we are in 2023.
Because I already played these games.
yo sneak that snake snack
there's literally NOTHING exciting about a re-release of a re-release, zoomers it's understandable since it might be the first time they touch these games but millennial consoomers are mentally ill
Because i've already beaten all these games 4+ times each years ago.
waiting for them to drop the achievements list
>enter any area
>enter first person mode
>put everyone to sleep
>proceed to next area
>boss battle
>enter first person mode
>spam headshots until you win
twin snakes gays
I've been emulating them on PC for over 10 years now
Chapter 3 bros, we are going home.
>giving Konami any money
Do you also buy ubisoft and activision blizzard "quality content"...?
Because I own all three of the original releases and the PS3 collection for good measure. I cared about the Metal Gear series when it mattered instead of being excited for Konami to dance its corpse around because they smell the easy money a re-release will give them.
I already flipped those games a long time ago.
I am so excited about playing the game I already played so many times on so many supports oh yeah...
If there's no online for mgs3 then frick off israelitenami.
Because they will not include all the bonus scenes with Raiden
>Why aren't you excited for twenty year old games that you could've played already if you wanted to?
Man, I just can't figure this one out either anon
And yet you're not playing them
You guys think Vol. 2 will have VR Missions?
Volume 1 has VR Missions, it says so on the website
I have a PC and already played these emulated.
Because I already have the HD collection.
>shoddy PC port with no KB+M support and probably with no proper options menus and capped to 30FPS
TotalBiscuit must be rotating in his grave
>muh keyboard
Name one PC port which doesn't have keyboard support
Even Project Cars or Asseto Corsa let you use keyboard which no sane person would do
>Name one PC port which doesn't have keyboard support
Ninja gaiden collection on pc.
>capped to 30FPS
Only MGS1, because the game's speed is tied to the framerate. Even the HD collection had 2 and 3 in 60fps on consoles a decade ago.
I want to be and I am, but I also don't trust Konami for a second.
I expect this to become one of those examples of a horrible port that everyone hates.
The question is: What is going to be in Vol 2?
Peace Walker is the only one that's basically 100% certain.
Some people think it might be using MGS4 as a Vol 2 bait but its just a guess based on website data
Peace Walker, MGS4 and Portable Ops would be the dream
It's the only chance to see MGS4 going out from hell
Portable Ops, Peace Walker, MGS4.
Probably gonna use Ghost Babel as the bait for the complete set like NES Gear/Snake's Revenge were for Vol 1.
AC!D duo could be on either side of the coin, though I'd pitch them in the main set given how cheap NES/GB(C) games are to manage.
I was gonna offer Rising in there, but they probably think its recent meme 'prestige' is grand enough for a standalone release afterwards instead of in one of the collections to make more money, like how they'd do MGSV on 9th gen consoles.
>Portable Ops
This game isn't even featured on the site timeline thing so I wouldn't count on it
a lot of people forget that MGR and V never got "next-gen" versions, Rising never released on the 8th generation, and V never got a re-release for the 9th
I 100% expect Vol. 2 to be Peace Walker, V and then Rising, and whatever little extras Konami throws in
MGSV iss natively backwards compatible on PS&Xbox
I have the legacy collection
MGS1 runs awfully on original hardware and on console emulation, it quite often dips below 30 fps, especially in FPV
I'd recommend emulating MGS1 on Duckstation and overclocking the ps1 cpu to 200%, this is as easy as dragging a slider, it ensures you get a constant 30 fps.
If you're already on PC, can't you just play the PC port? I heard the gog version is good.
>If you're already on PC, can't you just play the PC port?
the OG pc port is janky and basically hacked together. The team behind it literally pirated the soundtrack for the original to insert it into the port, the music doesn't even loop correctly. There's so many more things wrong with it that the ps1 version definitely feels like the correct way to play it
I know, but apparently the gog release is improved.
it's only improved in the sense that it works on modern hardware, it is still that old broken shitty port job
>Why aren't you excited Anon?
Remakes and remasters are fine and all but they are supposed to supplement actual new games. Its very hard to say "MGS is back!" when its games we've already played.
I'd rather have a brand new Metal Gear than a MGS3 remake, yeah maybe it would be bad, but if they cant make good new games they cant make good remakes either, thats my take on it.
Cuz I already played these games, and have them on their original platforms and on my Xbox 360.
I'm really curious about Vol.2 however. 4 is still the only Metal Gear I have yet to play. I have played everything including the shitty NES games, Ghost Babel, the Acid games, Portable Ops, and Survive. But 4 has always been elusive to me.
Portable Ops deserves a full Remake more than Snake Eater tbh. SE still plays perfectly fine, PO on the other hand has a great atmosphere and story but the gameplay is dogshit despite a lot of great ideas.
>but the gameplay is dogshit despite a lot of great ideas.
>can oly carry 4 items
>2 better be rations or your stamina will last 2 minutes
Great game nontheless
>mgs2 will have missing effect
The eShop screenshots show that some have been fixed, like Snake's bandana and the laser sights
>Snake's bandana
What about it was broken?
Because they are using visuals from Bluepoint remaster versions instead of the og PS2 ones
Because they won't include the option to change controls
Because they won't include normal third person camera for MGS1&2
Because they won't include sneaking using D-pad
Because they won't include sneaking in crouch mode
Because they won't include interrogating guards
Because they won't include CQC
Because they won't include shooting and moving at the same time
Because they won't include new outfits
Because they won't include new weapons
Because they won't include a better interface
Because they won't include all the cut content
I played this 20 years ago, why would I play this again
cuz i already got 1 to 4 on ps3
I don't get excited for Konami anymore.
I get worried.
never forget that konami made la creatividad into the worldly renowned video game auteur also known as el steve jobs de los videojuegos. without konami he would be a literal nobody. now that he's gone forever konami will have the opportunity to create another big boss who will shape the future of mgs series. and if you think a country of 125 million people can't produce another kojima you're delusional.
why do normies love remasters?
do they not know how to play the originals?
It's real ironic how they always beg for them to remake 9-10/10 games which can still be played if they want to. What would make sense is remaking games which had a great concept but fell short, or remaking something from 2D to 3D. Also I wouldn't be surprised if people just didn't know how to get a hold on the original games because they can't download them on phone or console.
Because I already played them decades ago, and if I'm feeling nostalgic I can pull them out of my closet to play again anytime I want.
yummy Kojima shit
I was excited until I found out the switch version won't have any games on the physical version with 60gb of downloads.
Do the other console have the full contents on the disc?
I already played these games years ago
so what, they're timeless classics and mgs3 didn't have official PC release so far. I often revisit mgs1, at least once per year. mgs2 much less and I've beaten 3 only 4 times but might do it again on PC this year if they don't frick it up too much.
Because I never played the original games
cause I own all those games like three times already, only reason to be hyped is that I don't need to touch the piece of shit ps3 console to play mgs3.
The new consoles don't have controllers with pressure sensitive buttons
This is a big deal, specially for mgs games (in fact, probably only for mgs games)
>This is a big deal
It isn't. It was already solved a decade ago, and it resulted in better controls.
>Switch
>no PS4
Dafuq
>PAL
Yeah, like the cards
No physical no buy.
Looking forward for the Switch version to play them comfy portable, sucks that the physical version is all digital with an empty cartridge as a key, they should have put at least one of the games in there and have the rest downloadable, but that's expecting too much from Konami.
konami had an opportunity to build off of the HD Collection, make it way better and increase the resolution but based on all the footage they've released from it they've done none of that. It looks to be the same exact HD Collection from 2011, as in they literally did not even increase the resolution.
How is that even possible?
>Same game you've already played
>But AGAIN!
T-thanks
>decent PC ports of 1, 2 and 3
>mgs4 is going to be released from PS3 hell
this is good anon and they're making metal gear triangle if you want a new game (but it will be shit without kojimas involvement)
I will buy it day one on PC
Its the, what? 3rd time they are releasing this collection? Still no MGS4. Missing other games that were included in previous collections. If you know how to emulate this package is even more of a waste of effort and money. Awfully moronic. Thank goodness for moron zoomers who cant into emulation or these lazy rom packs would never sell on modern consoles.
pcsx2 is fricking garbage, 3ds version is ugly and downgraded which makes it pointless to emulate, bluepoint version is full of shitty compromises. I'm not drinking any of that poison.
I'm afraid Konami is going to frick it up.
>exicted for 15-year-old games that you can already play but now re-releasing so you can pay to play
God I hate the gaming community.
>Reddit frog
Frick off normalgay
frog
>A website that doesn't even have image reaction
Why is this meme being forced?
>Doubling down on the reddit frog
How to tell you're a normalgay 101
Same with "Reddit spacing" for just using line breaks for paragraphs and shit, without understanding what that term means or why it's related to Reddit.
>newbie doesn't know that there is actual reddit spacing
lurk moar
Anyone else getting it on switch for some comfy gaming?
Of course, this means we get more Sony games without wasting money on a playstation.
All that's left now is getting a port of Symphony of the Night.
No point when it'll probably work on Steam deck
does mgs collection work on rpcs3?
>not on pc
yawn
It's confirmed to come to Steam
k thx baiiii
Because I'm waiting for Acid remaster instead. I must see my wife Teliko again
I'm a little worried that it'll be 720p upscaled to 1080p. I'll still get it if so, but right now my expectations are pretty tempered.
I'm hopeful someone can force it to render higher if so.
I predict that the steam versions will definitely have mods that improve upon the collections shortcomings. The biggest question from me is what will MGS1 look like? Will it be just like the PS1 version with all the jitter? Or will the rendering be revamped with the correct geometry coupled with texture smoothing?
Depends. If it's running via an emulator (i.e. it's basically an emulated 360 version and not a native port) then options may be limited. That's a worst case scenario but I'm prepared for Konami to fully half ass it.
Could someone explain the timeline to me? I'm an absolute brainlet
I played 1, mgsv, ground zeros, revengeance .
Most hrs in V because is fun
So, venom snake is the medic right?
And what happens next?
I've seen a picture with the order of games but I'm extremely moronic is venom snake the old coof snake in 4? And which one is in the metal gear solid 1 game?
dude go read mgs wiki for that. mgs timeline is frickhuge, convoluted and impossible to summarize in one post. better yet save yourself from spoilers and play the master collection when it gets out. if you want to play in chronological order then play 3>2>1.
I meant 3 1 2, but the whole series includes 3, pw, 5, mg1, mg2, 1, 2, 3, 4, revengeance
Venom/Medic acts as Big Boss
Real Big Boss grows army
Solid and Liquid grow up
Solid kills "Big Boss"/Venom
Solid kills Big Boss for real
Liquid attempts insurrection, wants Big Boss dna
Solid defeats Liquid
AI control/Nanomachines son/gay shit
Timeline is MGS3(>POOPS)>PW>GZ>PP>MG1>MG2>MGS>MGS2>MGS4(>MGR)
You play as Naked Snake in MGS3 through GZ (Big Boss)
You play Venom in PP (Fake Big Boss)
You play Solid Snake in MG1 through MGS and also MGS4 (where he is Old Snake)
You play as Raiden in MGS2 and MGR
>The HD Collection is now almost as old as MGS1 was when it came out
1998 > 2011 = 13
2011 > 2023 = 12
>MGS4 came out 10 years after MGS1
>Peace Walker is now older than MGS1 was when 4 came out
>MGSV is 8 years old
>MGS1, 2 and 3 all happened within a 6 year window
Hopefully the fix things like the fricked up dark posters
No ps4 port, no buy. Not buying a PS4.5, not getting the Shitch version and I can emulate it so why get the Steam version?
I haven't played through these in over 10 years so sure, I'll probably buy it again
>ps5
No thanks!
I am
I am getting the switch version so I can play it in the living room loud
People always say that first person aiming in TTS breaks the game.
How so though?
The layout of Shadow Moses was kept mostly in tact. It was designed around being a top down shooter with limited aiming and movement and where your field of view is only as big as the screen. A lot of the areas are wide open as a result.
First person lets you see most of the guards and tranq them from a huge distance, so you're rarely at risk of being discovered. MGS2 got around this by having much more segmented and/or vertically designed rooms, with platforms, blocked railings, etc, but it was also designed with that POV in mind.
The areas are so open you can just pop in first person mode and put everyone to sleep without ever even going near them.
It also allows you to defeat bosses like Ocelot and Raven by just standing still and spamming headshots while they do nothing.
Because I'm waiting for Acid 2 remaster instead. I must see my wife Michiko again
I am. Gonna get that shit on Steam.
I still don't believe MGS4 is coming to new consoles.
Im not paying 60$ for a fricking PORT, enjoy your goyslop tho
I already own all of these physically. You guys only want this collection for easy trophies.
I have it physically to, but on PS3 which I don't keep hooked up anymore. I want it on Steam for easy access as well as so it's more available for new players.
Do we even know if it'll have cheevos?
>Do we even know if it'll have cheevos?
2 and 3 will almost certainly have the same achievements that were in the HD collection release. No idea if they'll bother to add any to MGS1.
> easy trophies.
I assume they will just copy/paste trophy lists from ps3 collection. MGS2 is a nightmare to Platnium, MGS3 is not too bad. I imagine MGS1 will be simple.
>I imagine MGS1 will be simple.
I hope they get creative with the MGS1 achievements, they could do some fun ones.
Adding new event triggers to old games is a pain that devs will not have time or effort for. They will be desperately rushing to just get game mostly functional in time for release. It’s why 99% of re-releases put trophies on things that already have a definitive action or reward when you do them, it’s easy to plug in “activate trophy now” on a flag that’s already set to activate once a bunch of conditions are met.
I imagine MGS1 will be bunch of story trophies, including both endings, maybe getting some of the funny hidden codec calls, or using box to fast travel. Maybe difficulty trophies. But I don’t think game has ability to track any interesting stuff.
Need EVERYTHING all on ONE DAMN DISC, NO DOWNLOADS!
I wonder if they'll add Peace Walker online content in vol 2 like they did in the PS3 collection.
Who says I'm not?
Do you think Konami will straight up port the Xbox 360 HD collection version or add some stuff like bug fixes and increase the internal resolution?
judging by the trailer it's 720p internal and it still has at least one visual bug from the HD collection left in it
(no visible laser)
ps2 version emulated for comparison, rain also seems to be missing in that trailer
Yeah I don't expect them to fix anything in-game but increasing the resolution seems extremely trivial
>Why aren't you excited Anon?
Not on PS4
>Why aren't you excited Anon?
The pseudo physical release on the Switch. Either put everything on the cardridge or make the game digital only.