I've always liked how nice JRPG characters hair look in games. Like equally soft and hard, or a bunch of string constantly being electrically charged to stand up on end.
unrelated to changes but I can't fricking stand the amount of times you have to shimmy through tight spaces in Remake. The yuffie dlc got rid of it thankfully thanks to the improved loading times but it ruins replays of Remake.
I got it on Steam and the game seems to be designed around PS4 load times. Like for example when you use the Chocobo fast travel, you can't even hear the actual Chocobo music part if you're on an SSD, which was clearly intended to be heard during the loading screen.
man shut the frick up, what a shitty fricking thread holy shit
>Final fantasy will always be shit until they go back to turn based combat
KEK
ladies and gentlemen, meet one of the clowns responsible for the hostility and creation of ff7 threads. Claims hes not barry but hes totally barry.
every time barry old boy, evry timeeeeee
Crazy how they added an an insane amount of pointless and dull as frick corridors but couldn't bother making a small basement for additional interactions with the crew. Even when they were planning their assault on Shinra and then the celebration too the frickers did right there in the bar were everyone could see and hear them.
it's easy to stretch out an ugly ass hallway with zero details. making one interesting room is too much work now.
the actual bar itself looked fricking awful
Ultra-Purists get their proper remake too, with Ever Crisis.
The only ones who lost out were those who are neither here nor there and want a "1:1 remake with same gameplay and same scenes but with improved graphics, but would eventually complain about inevitable changes caused by the graphics anyway".
Basically the only ones who really lost out are those who'd be angry no matter how it turns out because their desires are self-contradictive.
Ever Crisis is an "actual remake".
But anyone who just wanted a mostly 1:1 HD/4k remake in 3D would haven eventually complained that they "had to pay full AAA game price for a game with little to no new content and the little extra content there was was also shit, so it was a scam!"
People would be looking for a replication of their childhood memories and nostalgia but they wouldn't be able to find it because even with improved graphix it would just be "another replay with a more fancy mod" at best and the complains would start coming in.
You can see how people nitpicked even stuff like all the nuREs, and a so-called "proper FFVII remake" would receive far worse treatment, and it's not like relatively short RE games can even remotely be compared to an epic of tens of hours with unique assets for every new area that is FFVII. It would either take like 20 years to develop, or would otherwise have to compromise on the Unique assets and start becoming a "template open world" such as ME1 was with it's identical bases.
Mother of strawmen, you really are moronic, anon. It's not that they get exactly what they want, but that they don't really know what they really want to begin with and change what they say the want every few minutes. And your point of "the OG was shit" is something no one actually claims other than when you are samegayging that opinion.
Go back to playing the FFXV you love so much, Barry or whoever you are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"mother of strawmen!" >follows up with literally four other strawman arguments while defending his original strawman argument
you're very moronic
>People would be looking for a replication of their childhood memories and nostalgia but they wouldn't be able to find it because even with improved graphix it would just be "another replay with a more fancy mod" at best and the complains would start coming in.
Then why did people praised REmake 1?
The new gameplay isn't all that and I'm sick and tired of you fricking homosexuals trying to act like this button mashing type of gameplay is good and takes a tremendous amount of skill. A 1:1 remake with turn-based/ATB combat would have been a lot better and those games are a lot more fun than anything else. The worst offense of gaming in the last decade + is pretending like all tech progress is good and makes for a better game.
>implying OG FFVII "takes a tremendous amount of skill"
Let's be real, The gimmick of material and the freedom you could achieve were great concepts, but let's not pretend that it "took a tremendous amount of skill" for anything other than the two optional WEAPON fights maybe.
Anyway, it was the preparation with the Materia that was the great thing in the OG, and you only really got that feeling early on whenever you managed to obtain a new kind of materia, but the busted combos only came in lategame and after an annoying amount of grinding.
But the actual battles weren't all that special because FFVII's ATB was neither here nor there, it was basically the prototype of what would later become FFVIIR's hybrid combat system, but in terms of "strategy and tactics" 90%+ lied in the materia preparation, not in the actual combat. In that regard FFX and actual turn-based was much better.
I do admit thought that whilet he battles themselves were much more engaging overall, FFVIIRemake materia combos compared to OG FFVII were still not exactly exhilarating and I do hope that FFVIIRebirth will both include the tag-team system introduced in the Yuffie DLC for some sick materia combos, and some solo character materia-effect chains, plus some weapon-skill+materia-effect combos, as well.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It doesn't necessarily take a lot of skill but it is fun, takes planning which is fun, is tied to finding a plethora of magic, different abilities, weapons and gear, ALL of which are tremendously cut down in the remake and non tb/atb games. The grinding to get stronger is fun and is a clear way to show progress, it's actually even more engaging than running circles and spamming auto attacks which is literally the same complaint that half of people have for tb but oh since it's in fricking real motion it's so much better. All these games are overrated shit. If you're so concerned with le ebin reflexes why don't you go to an MMA gym or join a sport where that's actually true? Even in shooters it's mostly just learning the maps and where players are most likely going to show up. Video games are a joke because a large amount of the players think it's something it's not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The grinding to get stronger is fun and is a clear way to show progress
It wasn't fun at all. It was not fun to farm the damn orange balls for AP while hoping you don't run into a fricking tedious end-game Tomberry instead. You are letting your nostalgia cloud your judgement.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah I just replayed ff3 and I had fun; at the most I grinded for maybe 40 minutes when I was legitimately too weak to beat something once or twice.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am talking about FFVII and not FFIII. In FFVII you didn't even need to grind as long as you didn't rush through things, e.g. not skipping over Gongoa Village or especially not skipping over Wutai in CD1, and also took your time to collect all the items without running from random encounters.
no one asked for a remake of crisis core. so im still wondering what is up with that.
ok since you INSIST >It was a doll and the other 2 were events...
so nothing counts because that would prove you wrong >that is the same exact one
nope
[...] >to be the same pictures at different angels
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these are not the same pics lmao.
don't be moronic like him anon.
appear to be the same pictures at different angels. Correction.
>I bet you the fact that it's called "remake" is because Sephirot is remaking the past or some dumb shit like that
Yes, but also money, if they said from the beginning what they were doing plenty of people who bought the game would've ignored it.
FF died with IX. There's a reason why Sakaguchi himself hails IX as the definitive Final Fantasy experience. It was the swan song. Soulless linear cinematic trash ever since. Nomura is a piece of shit moron with cringe taste and cringe ideas.
>time jannies aren't a criticism because they're dead
They never should have existed in the first place. Having destroyed them doesn't undo their existence. They still were around, and were shit.
So why exactly did the space jannies need to stop Cloud from killing Reno? What was different in this timeline where Cloud fights and tries to kill him.
Ultra-Purists get their proper remake too, with Ever Crisis.
The only ones who lost out were those who are neither here nor there and want a "1:1 remake with same gameplay and same scenes but with improved graphics, but would eventually complain about inevitable changes caused by the graphics anyway".
Basically the only ones who really lost out are those who'd be angry no matter how it turns out because their desires are self-contradictive.
>The original game was shit anyway
So much this. The only thing I loved about FF7 was the music. To prove this, I tried re-playing the game with no sound. It was boring.
Ultra-Purists get their proper remake too, with Ever Crisis.
The only ones who lost out were those who are neither here nor there and want a "1:1 remake with same gameplay and same scenes but with improved graphics, but would eventually complain about inevitable changes caused by the graphics anyway".
Basically the only ones who really lost out are those who'd be angry no matter how it turns out because their desires are self-contradictive.
lieing homosexuals
it's just more donut steel fan fiction for zoomers raised on prequels and sequals to a game they never played
I'd argue that there is some valid criticism of the game but at best they are nit picks and that is all.
I can't even think of them, honestly, but there was autistic idiot that would constantly post webms that showed off how he had no clue how the combat system worked and was upset that he would waste his limits and powerful attacks at a 25% threshold that every fricking boss had.
Yeah you are bullshitting. You are acting like ff7 remake is gamespots 12 10/10 in the sites 20 year history or some shit. The story being dumster tier isnt a nit pick. nor is the repeative quest system, nor are the bosses, nor is the clone KH combat. the same combat nomura always uses for anything he touches.
>XV
Oh, you didn't play that either. Sorry.
I'll spoonfeed you, moron. They're completely different from one another. Also: >KH
Great >VIIR
Great >XV
Dogshit
2 years ago
Anonymous
and what does this have to do with all of them being bad and having the same shitty combat? press a button to win, ff7 remake not so much but its the same thing with a different coat of paint.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about the combat, moron. That was the topic. KH and VIIR have great combat systems, XV has a shit one.
Not him but >any game that has real time combat in 3d space is KH and has the exact same combat
You're a literal moron that doesn't know what he is talking about. Literal temperature IQ brainlet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>XV
Oh, you didn't play that either. Sorry.
I'll spoonfeed you, moron. They're completely different from one another. Also: >KH
Great >VIIR
Great >XV
Dogshit
I'm talking about the combat, moron. That was the topic. KH and VIIR have great combat systems, XV has a shit one.
wow double teaming. toss my salad in ff7's defense. what a psycho. they are all the same of each other.
Story is fine. Serves a good purpose and adds to the lore of the original game. Every quest is optional and is there to take it if you want. Combat is the best iteration of any ARPG combat out there, flying enemies are the only slight annoyance but you have multitude of ways to take care of them.
Get gud.
the story is not FRICKING fine, im sick and tired of people saying that. The story is a convoluted mess and bastardization of the original in an attempt to make something to sell to gullible idiots. The story is the biggest point as to why the game is loathed. >Every quest is optional and is there to take it if you want.
except the ones you cant, like a MMO >Combat is the best iteration of any ARPG combat out there, > out there
its the same combat you've had for a decade now in kingdoms and 15 > flying enemies
no one cares > get gud
we wish the game was actually good.
you can always tell a marketer. they tell you things are good without saying why. and if they do say why its in the most round about obtuse way imaginable.
They were good. youre the massive moron. Action gameplay takes away from the characters and the story.
>Good without saying why
Well when the only argument is this:
the story is not FRICKING fine, im sick and tired of people saying that. The story is a convoluted mess and bastardization of the original in an attempt to make something to sell to gullible idiots. The story is the biggest point as to why the game is loathed. >Every quest is optional and is there to take it if you want.
except the ones you cant, like a MMO >Combat is the best iteration of any ARPG combat out there, > out there
its the same combat you've had for a decade now in kingdoms and 15 > flying enemies
no one cares > get gud
we wish the game was actually good.
it's hard to argue with bare bones criticism.
The game adds onto characterization and themes in and of itself. Expanding on Wall Market, expanding on Avalanche with Biggs, Wedge and Jessie being far more fleshed out are just a few examples of how the story adds onto the lore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
well what are you expecting a novel? because as i said hours ago, all you do is attack like a dog with a freaking bone. its not a discussion, its you defending product. >Expanding on Wall Market, expanding on Avalanche with Biggs, Wedge and Jessie being far more fleshed out are just a few examples of how the story adds onto the lore.
no, it was padding length for MIDGAR with 100 hours. Knowing full well that the rest of the remake is not going to be that hyper focused and not even a remake at all.
Is the Kalm flash back going to be 100 hours?
Is Junon going to be 100 hours?
Is Costa De Sol 100 hours?
What about North Corel?
Adds to the story is not always a good thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Being a facetious c**t an argument does not make. Midgar can be beat in 25 hours. Simple as. I've never attacked other than right now with you being a facetious c**t and being disingenuous at that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
its not facetious you silly c**t. > Midgar CAN be
no shit. it doesn't change the difference that midgar is the lions share of the game and is all of it. > Simple as.
and i care why? > I've never attacked other than right now with you being a facetious c**t and being disingenuous at that.
Black person thats all you EVER DO on ff7 threads. Attack, attack, attack, attack. Fascinating how that can sum up most of nomura's games. just hold the attack button.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Schizo the post
I just don't get how you're so mad over an enjoyable game.
Oh and also, arguably, you spend the most time in Midgar than any other place in the game. A total of 3 to 6 hours can be spent in Midgar alone in the original game on a first time play through.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> Schitzo the post
no you are Tifa Bros creator and this is your behavior. do you have any idea how insane you were in those days? No one needs to prove anything on that front - you are a rabid paid promoter forcing ideas that you hardly understand yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I just don't get how you're so mad over an enjoyable game.
because it isn't? I mean some people enjoy eating dog shit like in rick and morty - doesnt make it a national pastitme >A total of 3 to 6 hours can be spent in Midgar alone in the original game on a first time play through.
and? that was the playstation disk days. it doesnt mean that it should be 90-100 hours with all the content packed in there.
stop attacking.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you can also clip into walls and skip whole parts evidently with the event triggers. midgar is the whole game and it sets a bad precedence.
Dude just pay $250 for one game, it's fine, if you don't do it you're just a hater!
>and adds to the lore
you do realise that this happens even if the story is shit right
like dirge of cerberus is dreadful but it "adds to the lore"
whats the point in adding lore if its fricking garbage? do you care more about filling in wiki pages and autistic theories or the actual quality of the storytelling?
>you do realise that this happens even if the story is shit right
exactly right. its like changing a games story or changing its premise during a remake is somehow adding to the delivery. square cant do it, capcom cant do it and neither can Bethesda. just make new games.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> square cant do it, capcom cant do it and neither can Bethesda.
none of these companies have released anything good in a very long time. the praise for their remake games have more cut content than a vegas drive thru wedding.
well you spammed that shit so i think anyone with a brain just ignored you. because you literally had threads about that too. Tifa bro salesmen guy. You can refute everything and anything with facts. There is no perfect game and ff7 remake, a game imported to chinks, sea monkies and some random aulstrailan company to finish? Is full of more holes than swiss cheese.
>um um I actually have lots of valid criticisms um um I just can't think of any right now
Another filtered boomer who doesn't know how to feel joy anymore. Very sad. Many such cases!
>um um I actually have lots of valid criticisms um um I just can't think of any right now
with all the threads you make and curate you know full well what you do when someone has criticism. You never wanted a reasonable discussion. You want to force prove them wrong "you lost" and how there are no valid criticism for the biggest SE flop since the Birth by Sleep. You are a shilling clown.
>Wanted remake >They announced a remake >Remake drops >It's not a remake, but a sequel to the dogshit movie called Advent children
The only reason we have so many morons saying this is fine is because they never played the original
They pulled the wool over our eyes with the "remake" label. >it's called "Remake" >but it's not a remake >"Remake" is part of the title >as in, the characters get to remake their fates, rewrite their stories >oh, you wanted an actual remake? >well, too bad >enjoy time jannies
We like GOOD changes, and alternate timeline destiny ghost fiesta is not a good change. Also frick that second trip to the sewers, this game had godawful filler on top of a schizo new story
>Specifically reach back into your game series to pull out one of the most beloved entries for a Remake >Take the original game people loved, but completely change the gameplay, change the story, add in entirely new plot elements that border on it being a sequel, break it up into three separate parts (all of which stretch out relatively short parts of the original), then charge full price for each entry
I can accept changes. Plenty of remakes and remasters change things wildly. Devs will update graphics, alter character models, rebalance the game, add in new mechanics, clean up translations/add in new lines, bring voice acting in, sometimes even add in entirely new areas/content. But they tend to keep the core game intact. After all, that's what people enjoyed. That's why the games were popular back then. So for the FFVII Remake to break a single game up into three parts, completely screw with the story, and shift the genre into straight up action, it may as well not even be the same game.
To which, at that point, make a new fricking game. You're not even making changes, you're just making a new game but reusing the FFVII coat of paint to sell copies. It's trash.
Nomura simps want to live in some delusional state where Nomura gets kudos for everything good, but is 100% blameless for anything bad.
They praise Nomura for the combat system, as if Nomura himself made it, but also act like Nomura had NOTHING to do with the bad parts of the story - but ALSO he was responsible for all the good parts.
He was also apparently the only person who made the original game good.
These fanboys genuinely act like Nomura is a godlike figure, single handily creating masterpieces but is surrounded by people who are intentionally trying to ruin his work. That's how they see SE. Once you understand that, these threads make a lot more sense.
I thought FF7R was pretty good. I mean the gameplay is 10 times better than the shallow turn based combat of the original at least. Here's the problem though: >split into 3 games to milk it for all it's worth >nonsensical time janny storyline (if you want to make the story different then just do it without the meta bullshit) >failed to bring midgar to life in the way it deserved, midgar only really looks like midgar when it's dark and yet most of the time it's bright outside and it just doesn't look like the original game >side quests are almost entirely pointless busywork
FF7 Remake was great fun to play and experience. It is, however, a catastrophic mistake in terms of story and the changes they're making. FF7 is a milky, fat, cash cow. They're going to drain that bovine prostitute of all its worth, even if it means rewriting and erasing consequence, so 30+ nostalgia-addled adults will fork out over £70 for every new instalment.
Because square is garbage and they can't make anything good that's new so they need to bait people with a """"remake"""" then do this shit. I loved the original 7 but it truly was the beginning of the end for FF. It introduced too much anime style shit and spawned a terrible community.
>It's not 1997 anymore.
Then why is this series still shit?
You'd think after two decades they'd produce at least one good game, but I guess that's the "power" if japanese devs
FF7R is what finally made me accept that Squeenix just doesn’t have it.
Ever since around FFXII just waiting for them to come back and wow us like the old days, but just getting steadily worse and fricking everything up. FF7R was their last chance to turn things around, but then they went off a cliff.
Unironically agree. There's no point in telling the same story of FF7 twice. It's more exciting if things are similar, but different enough to keep the audience wondering what might happen next.
gays who complain about FF7R story deviating from what they know should just play FF7.
>gays who complain about FF7R story deviating from what they know should just play FF7.
What about people who don't mind it deviating from what they know, but who want it to be different and good instead of different and shit?
>There's no point in telling the same story of FF7 twice.
If you genuinely believed this then you wouldn't "remake" FF7 at all, as there's no reason to use the same setting, story and characters AGAIN.
My issue with the whole remake issue is that people only seem able to discuss it in extremes. Very few actually measured evaluations/criticism is being accepted, whenever you have some valid criticism on the lighter side, but also some praise for other aspect, you will be chewed out from both sides as a "mindless hater" but also a "SE apologist" at the same time. But what else to expect from Ganker. The only sad thing is that this actually extends beyond just 4chins.
>force walk >cut-scene >force walk >dialogue >camera shows you where to go >"Oh maybe we should go there" >force walk >battle >Oh hey fighting mechanics are pretty go >battle over in 20 sec >force walk
FRICK
THIS
GAME
I can't even go through Yuffie DLC, there's absolutely no exploration at all in this game.
And guess what ? In the original game you coudl explore a fricking map in less than 6 hours. I've been playing 60hours of this shit and it's not even over yet ?
The changes are all for the worse, is that too hard for your pea brain to understand? There was nothing wrong with FFVII's story, but adding all this shit with time ghosts and ruining Sephiroth's fall to madness with the Crisis Core garbage hurt the story. The only people who like the compilation changes seem like Naruto/Bleach Shonen homosexuals
>old jrpgs >art was inspired, graphics were groundbreaking, gameplay relied on knowledge and experimentation. >new jrpgs >3 different art styles: realistic, retro, or "dragon quest like" >gameplay is always just a shitty clunky dmc. >mechanics are shallow and explained with one slide of a tutorial screen >everything is a glorified hallway. No diversification, no minigames.
Jrpgs are dead. I'm still gonna hold out hope for star ocean 6 though. I think if I gave up hope entirely I would kms.
Nobody plays jrpgs for the gameplay or the art style. It's all about the cute girls.
Star Ocean 6 is going to be great. The girls are very cute. Maybe I'm just a sucker for those doll baby faces they have.
You're of no value to this world in any way and your stupid opinions shitting up my image board should've ended years ago with a short drop and a quick stop.
> Nobody plays jrpgs for the gameplay or the art style.
thats not true, and people are not obsessed with doll faces or what not. Its the games they are in that is the combo that sells. Cute girls doing action-y things.
It's true. Most jrpgs have dogshit boring and braindead gameplay, and people don't care. Gameplay literally doesn't matter in a jrpg. It's about how cute the girls are.
again not true. most have a alot of good gameplay elements and thought put into them. > if you wanted agame about cute girls only with anime features
they are called gatcha games.
>most have a alot of good gameplay elements
Like what? All turn-based jrpgs require 0 skill or thought. All action-based jrpgs are also braindead easy and the bosses are glorified punching bags.
Just because the battle effects are pretty, doesn't mean the gameplay is good. It's all very superficial. But it doesn't matter, since none of the jrpg players ever complain about the combat involving no skill. They're playing it for the pretty flashy effects and cute girls.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> Like what? All turn-based jrpgs require 0 skill or thought. All action-based jrpgs are also braindead easy and the bosses are glorified punching bags.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm just stating the facts. I played a couple dozen jrpgs in my life, including both turn-based, action-based and hybrids. And all of them were shallow in the gameplay department. All of them were easy enough to be beaten without any concious effort.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> facts
your views. gotcha. But it isnt the case.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I played the most low-effort surface level nu-rpgs and can now make sweeping statements about a 40 year old genre.
go back to Ganker with that level of bait.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Like what? All turn-based jrpgs require 0 skill or thought.
Guide reader cope. Growing up with SNES / PS1 rpgs was the peak of human existence and you now live in humanity's pitiful shadow.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Growing up with SNES / PS1 rpgs was the peak of human existence and you now live in humanity's pitiful shadow.
I played all of the most popular jrpgs on PS1. And they were all baby shit games that involved little to no effort to beat.
Not saying I hated them for being too easy. I enjoyed them for the atmosphere, music and characters. And that's the point - people who play jrpgs don't care about combat. They want easy, braindead gameplay so they can enjoy the story, atmosphere and characters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>t. Square babby.
You didn't play real jrpgs. You played theme parks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Name 3 jrpgs that require more than 3 brain cells to beat.
>game gets advertised as a remake and is called a remake >turns out it's actually a sequel >WHY DIDN'T YOU LIKE THE SUBVERSION!? IT'S NOT 1997 ANYMORE!
I like how Crisis Core, a game which absolutely has a ton of story shit that could be changed for the better, is the one getting a more faithful remake. For people saying not to be afraid of change or be attached to the past the people in charge of this whole project certainly seem attached to all the compilation bullshit from years ago.
I'm not afraid of change, i just want is what is advertised. Sell me a beer and it turns out to be horse piss i dont expect our waitress to say "dont be afraid of change". I want a refund at that point, and i wont be back.
morons will spend their money on it because of brand recognition alone and them not having subject themselves to play the original now that they have a modernized option, theres no escaping this hell.
Im in the camp of the ship has sailed. People know what the remake game is now and only the brained wash faithful will remain. no one wants alot of ghost story in crisis core, and even then those that actually played the game are in the very very small minority.
I still believe they wont change that much anything. Just the key events like aerith dying will have some twist over it. The rest will be just more of part 1: adding and re-arranging events.
I understand why people overreact so much though, but i still think that those who think "everyone is gonna live" is just delusional as frick. I trust kitase and Nomura, specially Nomura. What they said about "making something new but familiar" resonates a lot to me, like they are gonna making you feel like playing the original for the first time again.
Either way, im excited to see how eveything goes.
Jessie is confirmed to come back in the next game. Players will encounter her in Golden Saucer. But that's a Jessie from another timeline, so she will have different memories from the party.
this is the same market manipulated Ganker that told everyone Tifa was not censored and was hot. When what she's known for: her breast and legs is quite literally covered in black censorship bars. There is a reason why nothing exists on her in Japan.
you knew she was going to get reduced but yeah she was. black stockings and back shirt. "imagine not thinking tifa in stockings isn't hot". That fire is still being put out.
remake tifa. shes non existent over there. She went from being on products and various tourist shit to not even being front and center in the square store and restaurant when we went last year. No i dont live in japan but i visit because family does (navy).
she is and i dont believe those charts for a heart beat as they can be manipulated. Remake tifa sold less than older FF characters from the other games. Trust me when i say from first hand experience, shes behind other characters from other games in the store and is not in the store in her remake form.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>she is and i dont believe those charts for a heart beat as they can be manipulated >Square Enix lied to shareholders because I say so >No I don't have proof for anything but you WILL believe what I say.
lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
i didnt say that, so dont rush to kick down what i said. those charts of sales are always questionable. Especially after the kindom hearts fisaco and the review embargos yet "overwhelming positive sales". But i dont care if you beleive me or not, thats your business.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>those charts of sales are always questionable. >I say this but can't explain why
ok >Especially after the kindom hearts fisaco and the review embargos yet "overwhelming positive sales".
yes, highest selling game in the franchise. >But i dont care if you beleive me or not,
You would need to prove what you say first ha ha
2 years ago
Anonymous
And here we go.
I need to prove what i said? what you want to see photos from my phone during my trip?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I need to prove what i said
Make a broad statement and then get proven wrong with actual stats from SE themselves. You don't need to prove anything, because you've already lost.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what did i lose? And when was it a race? Remake Tifa isn't advertised, accepted or even marketed in japan. listen to me hard as you can - i dont care if you believe me or not. you're the only one acting like a monkey or the other posting sales nonsnese that still mean nothing. How many sold in japan? how many of them were shiped vs sold? can we go into detail? It doesnt matter
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Remake Tifa isn't advertised, accepted or even marketed in japan
https://thebestjapan.com/02-08-04-24-final-fantasy-vii-remake-cafe/
lol >i dont care if you believe me or not
well having objective proof that you're a lying homosexual sure helps lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you know how old that article is? That is not there now. It was taken down after an incredibly short time. It was an event that is now long gone.
Why are you ass pulling in a hurried defense? when did i say it wasnt there?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>That is not there now. >Square Enix changing up their themed cafes is news to you
oh my lord, did you actually not know this? KEK
Your stupid fricking ass went to the cafe, at a time when they were promoting another game, and thought no one liked tifa. Good lord you're moronic. >when did i say it wasnt there >shes behind other characters from other games in the store and is not in the store in her remake form
stupid, a liar and has a short memory.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Ok slow down, because you are fighting because you are either a paid promotion guy or a pyscotic fan boy.
I went when it wasnt the promotion. It is not there now and from what we heard when speaking it was only for a few days and they brought it back out again for a little while then put it away.
>stupid, a liar and has a short memory.
dude shes not on the shelf, walls, menus or the goofy trinkets. you know who is when you look? The original one from the 97 game.
you need to chill my friend. take a trip and go yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>claim something stupid >mistakenly confuse that because 7remake wasn't the theme of the cafe at the time, that must mean tifa isn't liked >start projecting his anger onto others after getting proven wrong and then keep up with the lie while charts show that her remake figure is a top seller.
There is no need for all of this cope. Just move on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What are you even saying. So you are basically telling me not to believe my lying eyes right? Its the best selling thing ever? > you are in marketing.
And that top seller chart? Break it down further. Where did it sell the best? Hint: it wasnt japan.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>mistakenly confuse that because 7remake wasn't the theme of the cafe at the time, that must mean tifa isn't liked
Do you know how the store works Marketing Anon? Like talking down like this may work for teenagers but you'd have to be full moronic to fall for this nonsense as an adult lol.
[...] >don't believe Square enix! you have to believe ME. >no I will not prove it, and the proof you've given doesn't count. Because I said so.
lol
show me where it sold. that will prove the point for you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No I will not prove what I said, you're just lying
anon pls, you're projecting your own hatred onto japs and thinking they hate the new tifa.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Excuse me? I didnt say they hated it i said they dont like it because shes no where to be seen. When she's always been markted in japan on the streets and manga shops. Hint: its not my first time going to the stores, shops or caffee. When you see her shes in her 97 get up. Not the remake get up. Which means.... after several years post release... it didnt do well. Rey Anami is still on the front of a building in a LCD screen ad near several stations. Did you know that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they hated it i said they dont like it
I'm actually talking to a bonaifde moron. >Not the remake get up. >she just isn't ok
Anon, you have to take a step back and look at yourself in the mirror. Remind yourself that you are the minority, not the majority.
2 years ago
Anonymous
LOL, oh god this is college psychologly 101 nonsense. Hey listen, if anime characters from 2000 are still used in tie ins and what you state is the best selling Tifa ever is nowhere to be seen but the original is seen in the store, outside the store and the shops around the area. What does this tell us? > you need to stop
being offended over this.
>stop disagreeing with me, you can't just prove me wrong with Facts
lol
what facts? She wasnt there. and we spoke to staff. they dont answer everything but they will chat about the store and its history when you ask about that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>facts from fans personal visits to the cafe and from square enix themselves? >nope I got the best source of all: dude trust me
lmao, bonafide moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and just to prove you're a lying moron
https://twitter.com/SQEX_MD_GOODS/status/1400989782000345092/photo/1 >June 2021
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
last year we went, that is not there now.
Thank you and have a good day. Marketing Anon. > Hint
all that shit is vanished.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>last year we went >june 2021 wasn't last year...Square Enix is just lying about what year it is...
kek I accept your concession. Your tears sure are delicious.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are crazy.
Did i stay in japan 365 days? Its gone. The staff even said that they had something but they were having a new display for the DQ series. So i guess thats what they moved. But all points about my trip still stand. Markting Anon go market to someone else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
again im impressed of the lengths you went to dig up something to prove that im being dishonest. why would a lie about a trip i took? Oh i made it alll up.
Dreamcast had internet fricko
Thats 1999
Dreamcast internet wasnt the interent, it even said so when you attempted to use it with Microsoft CE that it had built in. >how do i know this?
i had one with 56k dialup. Go away.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>again im impressed of the lengths you went to dig up something to prove that im being dishonest >quick google search
lol >prove that im being dishonest.
Well I've already proven it. You made a false statement, made up a lie about SE not promoting remake tifa and then I proved it wrong by posting facts.
You are crazy.
Did i stay in japan 365 days? Its gone. The staff even said that they had something but they were having a new display for the DQ series. So i guess thats what they moved. But all points about my trip still stand. Markting Anon go market to someone else.
It doesn't really matter if you want to keep lying, because I've objectively proven you're a liar.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> Well I've already proven it. You made a false statement, made up a lie about SE not promoting remake tifa and then I proved it wrong by posting facts.
I never said that, not even once. So why are you going so hard out of your way to twist my words into saying something i never said? She isn't popular in Japan, she currently isnt marketed in the store and all her memorabilia is her 97 designed stuff or outfit or whatever.
You are the one that has something to prove here my friend. You have a problem or you are in sales and marketing.
> It doesn't really matter if you want to keep lying, because I've objectively proven you're a liar.
still waiting for you to tell me where i lied. I'm here for the next 9 hours. lets go.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>She isn't popular in Japan
which is a lie >she currently isnt marketed in the store >still waiting for you to tell me where i lied.
another objective lie lmao, from like 3 days ago
https://twitter.com/zexionkh13/status/1540916735200862210/photo/1
2 minutes, you didn't have to wait long lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
this isnt the store..
this is how tht page translates
[Exchange] ARTNIA FF7 Final Fantasy Coaster
Yuzuru Image ※ Some past bullets.
Sky Tree ○ Tifa Aeris
ARTNIA Aeris Vincent
Request Image Square Enix Cafe
AC BC Turks Vincent Cloud
Priority is given to transactions ○ . Can be handed over in Tokyo
So again, you are still bullshitting attempting to prove me wrong.
No, remake tifa is not popular in japan not like the original. You keep acting as if i said NOTHING EVER was made on her. Which is obviously untrue. I said she was and IS no where to be found in the store when her 97 version is.
> you are batshit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So again, you are still bullshitting attempting to prove me wrong.
I'm not but I can keep posting more pics if you wish.
You probably shouldn't have made such a big lie like this when SE is having the 25th anniversary cafe event right now lmao.
2 years ago
Anonymous
this isnt the store..
this is how tht page translates
[Exchange] ARTNIA FF7 Final Fantasy Coaster
Yuzuru Image ※ Some past bullets.
Sky Tree ○ Tifa Aeris
ARTNIA Aeris Vincent
Request Image Square Enix Cafe
AC BC Turks Vincent Cloud
Priority is given to transactions ○ . Can be handed over in Tokyo
So again, you are still bullshitting attempting to prove me wrong.
No, remake tifa is not popular in japan not like the original. You keep acting as if i said NOTHING EVER was made on her. Which is obviously untrue. I said she was and IS no where to be found in the store when her 97 version is.
> you are batshit.
cont
even if thats the case look what it is, mousepads and stickers. and those are only on display near the registers.
>So again, you are still bullshitting attempting to prove me wrong.
I'm not but I can keep posting more pics if you wish.
You probably shouldn't have made such a big lie like this when SE is having the 25th anniversary cafe event right now lmao.
again, no shit. its the 25 anniversy. and thats a cheap shot. of course they would have it there for the 25 anniversey. Now tell me very clearly how this proves me wrong and im lying? When i said she wasnt there during our visit and evidently havent been for a long time.
Post picks from a month ago and the month before that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>When i said she wasn't there during our visit and evidently havent been for a long time.
https://twitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1543024905096396800/photo/1
yesterday lol
If it at any point you want to apologize, I will gladly accept it. >Post picks from a month ago and the month before that. >no you can't just post pics from a year ago or yesterday, they have to be during a period where SE weren't promoting her >it must exist somewhere, it has to...
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, thats great. And you've already shown as to why... the 25th anniversary. All that? you are posting? Wasnt there when it wasnt the anniversary.
So you are telling me instead of luring in this one twitter user you aren't going back to prove a valid point over 60 days prior? Why not??
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wasnt there when it wasnt the anniversary.
and just to prove you're a lying moron
https://twitter.com/SQEX_MD_GOODS/status/1400989782000345092/photo/1 >June 2021
lol
This wasn't the anniversary but shes still being promoted ha ha ha >valid point over 60 days prior?
Your grasping onto an imaginary period where tifa wasn't being promoted while I show that's not true. You can doing it but its going to be in vein.
2 years ago
Anonymous
(Same anon)
i mean think about what you've used. Being 100 percent open minded. A tie in event and another tie in event being the 25 calibration. Why wouldn't they bring out things and characters related to it then?
Any other time? It isnt there.
>Wasnt there when it wasnt the anniversary.
[...]
This wasn't the anniversary but shes still being promoted ha ha ha >valid point over 60 days prior?
Your grasping onto an imaginary period where tifa wasn't being promoted while I show that's not true. You can doing it but its going to be in vein.
And there you go again, twisting words. Like i just pointed out above, that was from before with another event. not the 25 years.
>Your grasping onto an imaginary period where tifa wasn't being promoted while I show that's not true
she isnt, and wasnt when those events were not taking place. Again, you are rushing to prove me wrong telling me what i DIDNT see while in the square store then restaurant. You have problems.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>she isnt, and wasnt when those events were not taking place
https://twitter.com/hirokichiDQMH/status/1497100367791755265/photo/1
k so anyway here she is in February. Around the time the kh collab was going on in the cafe and 7remake wasn't being promoted as much. The 25th anny. event didn't happen until after the kh collab finished. >telling me what i DIDNT see while in the square store then restaurant.
Well now that I've met every demand you've whined about, I can definitively say you're either a lying moron, or a blind lying moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> one doll dude.
one doll. You are full of shit LOL!!!!! yeah. thats a doll. again, you've never been to the store and how they treat ff7, 10, and 9 like the holy grails. FF7 shit is everywhere when you walk in, like a replica of clouds bike on a stand.
Hey message whoever that twitter user is and ask her to show you all the 97 stuff around the store. Like whats mostly in the picture you showed....
wow you really went through someones twitter to find just one picutre. LOL! Yeah, remake tifa isnt there. In a case sorrounded by other dolls isnt helping that
2 years ago
Anonymous
>one doll
well yes, that's the standee. They give you the box with the figure when you actually want to buy the figure. >all the 97 stuff around the store. Like whats mostly in the picture you showed....
Well now that you've exposed yourself, I have to add that most of the figures in that pic are the casts' remake designs. Only cloud has his advent children one also marketed in that display. >In a case sorrounded by other dolls isnt helping that
well all you've done is proven that you're a blind lying moron and have never actually played 7remake, so I don't really think you have much more ground to stand on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
dude i know how the check out works in the store, ive been there several times already. >Well now that you've exposed yourself, I have to add that most of the figures in that pic are the casts' remake designs. Only cloud has his advent children one also marketed in that display.
thats nice, but what does this change? >well all you've done is proven that you're a blind lying moron and have never actually played 7remake, so I don't really think you have much more ground to stand on.
i havent lied since ive gotten here. tifa isnt there and if she is its in a small minute section, the posters and and other memorbelia of her isnt there for remake tifa. and yeah, i played the game and it was boring.
Still waiting for the previous months instead of the 2 pictures from EVENTS you plan on showing me and a one off doll rack in the corner. You do know how big that store is right? Oh no you dont, you never went. you need someones twitter. ffs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>thats nice, but what does this change? >FF7 shit is everywhere when you walk in, like a replica of clouds bike on a stand. >all the 97 stuff around the store. Like whats mostly in the picture you showed....
the fact that you can't tell the difference between what 7remake and og ff7 looks like might explain why you falsely claimed tifa wasn't being advertised, thinking that japan doesn't like her. She was being advertised, you're just a huge moron who can't see. >tifa isnt there and if she is its in a small minute section
the pics I've posted say otherwise. >Still waiting for the previous months
k,
>she isnt, and wasnt when those events were not taking place
https://twitter.com/hirokichiDQMH/status/1497100367791755265/photo/1
k so anyway here she is in February. Around the time the kh collab was going on in the cafe and 7remake wasn't being promoted as much. The 25th anny. event didn't happen until after the kh collab finished. >telling me what i DIDNT see while in the square store then restaurant.
Well now that I've met every demand you've whined about, I can definitively say you're either a lying moron, or a blind lying moron.
.
From February.
Like I said, you're a blind lying moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and again playing on words to paint a narrative. > the fact that you can't tell the difference between what 7remake and og ff7 looks like might explain why you falsely claimed tifa wasn't being advertised,
she isnt. you showed a doll. and i said, the big posters, wall scrolls and various memeborila isnt there. becuase .. you know.. its not.
> February.
I know and i said... > Still waiting for the previous months instead of the 2 pictures from EVENTS you plan on showing me and a one off doll rack in the corner.
you wont answer these questions because that would require you digging in another twitter or hurry up and google search something but you cant find anything. Points stand. Tifa is not the hot showcase peice in her remake form, but the original. A doll in the corner, and 2 events isnt changing the point as when i went twice it wasnt the case.
Are you done bullshitting? i mean im here all day. so please do go on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>she isnt. you showed a doll.
but previously >shes behind other characters from other games in the store and is not in the store in her remake form.
So you lied, then have to marginalize the truth by saying that it's just a figure. >instead of the 2 pictures from EVENTS
And that pic in February wasn't from an event. But you don't want it to count, this time without any good reason. >i mean im here all day.
Besides the fact that you're only proving how stupid you are, I wouldn't brag that you're stuck on Ganker, losing an argument about remake tifa.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Again, i never once said she was NOT in the store. I said she wasnt in the store being showcased. That shelf gets changed with different figures all the time because that figure? wasnt there during our trip.
> And that pic in February wasn't from an event. But you don't want it to count, this time without any good reason.
thats all that you have to go on and still will not provide any further months. you have a whole year. Go do some research. And even then, it was a ONE OFF DOLL.
>Besides the fact that you're only proving how stupid you are, I wouldn't brag that you're stuck on Ganker, losing an argument about remake tifa.
I spoke about a trip i had, you are having the argument. And conveniently you still havent covered any of the other ponits i mentioned. That is suspicious as frick.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> if they dont make porn of a toon, it isnt selling.
iron law of japan, 3 doujinshi comics in 3 years now? and one has her breasts so huge even i say -thats a bit silly-
They still make porn of the original tower of durga series from 3 decades ago. think about that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
based dyslexic anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
well im not wrong.
so goalpost moving and still wrong, I gotcha. >thats all that you have to go on and still will not provide any further months.
No, you wanted it before the event started and I granted your wish. I even posted a pic from last year, when you claimed it wasn't being promoted.
But this just goes back to what I said earlier and made fun of you for. You're desperately clinging onto an imaginary period where SE weren't promoting remake tifa and evidence keeps proving it wrong. >And conveniently you still haven't covered any of the other points
I have, you're just blind and don't want to admit that you were wrong.
There's really no point in keeping this up, since you're moronic. I'll let you have the final word though
https://twitter.com/hirodeath/status/1466789311844876290/photo/1
but not before posting another pic of tifa being shown off, this time in December of last year. lmao stupid moron.
and i need to step in here. you are posting what appear to be the same pictures at different angels. the real questions to ask: > is the new tifa better than the old
no > is the new tifa setting japan on fire
also no > is new tifa being marketed everywhere as the old one
does it matter?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>> is new tifa being marketed everywhere as the old one
the answer is no. went in and out of shops and even went to a shop where they sell 'h stuff' its confusing as all hell and they cover up the covers in liners so its not in your face. such a weird experience.
2 years ago
Anonymous
so goalpost moving and still wrong, I gotcha. >thats all that you have to go on and still will not provide any further months.
No, you wanted it before the event started and I granted your wish. I even posted a pic from last year, when you claimed it wasn't being promoted.
But this just goes back to what I said earlier and made fun of you for. You're desperately clinging onto an imaginary period where SE weren't promoting remake tifa and evidence keeps proving it wrong. >And conveniently you still haven't covered any of the other points
I have, you're just blind and don't want to admit that you were wrong.
There's really no point in keeping this up, since you're moronic. I'll let you have the final word though
https://twitter.com/hirodeath/status/1466789311844876290/photo/1
but not before posting another pic of tifa being shown off, this time in December of last year. lmao stupid moron.
>No, you wanted it before the event started and I granted your wish. I even posted a pic from last year, when you claimed it wasn't being promoted.
amazing how you are still dancing around that. It was a doll and the other 2 were events...
> but not before posting another pic of tifa being shown off, this time in December of last year. lmao stupid moron.
that is the same exact one. thats the same doll.
Holy fricking shit. You are insane.
2 years ago
Anonymous
ok since you INSIST >It was a doll and the other 2 were events...
so nothing counts because that would prove you wrong >that is the same exact one
nope
well im not wrong.
[...]
and i need to step in here. you are posting what appear to be the same pictures at different angels. the real questions to ask: > is the new tifa better than the old
no > is the new tifa setting japan on fire
also no > is new tifa being marketed everywhere as the old one
does it matter?
>to be the same pictures at different angels
>she isnt, and wasnt when those events were not taking place
https://twitter.com/hirokichiDQMH/status/1497100367791755265/photo/1
k so anyway here she is in February. Around the time the kh collab was going on in the cafe and 7remake wasn't being promoted as much. The 25th anny. event didn't happen until after the kh collab finished. >telling me what i DIDNT see while in the square store then restaurant.
Well now that I've met every demand you've whined about, I can definitively say you're either a lying moron, or a blind lying moron.
so goalpost moving and still wrong, I gotcha. >thats all that you have to go on and still will not provide any further months.
No, you wanted it before the event started and I granted your wish. I even posted a pic from last year, when you claimed it wasn't being promoted.
But this just goes back to what I said earlier and made fun of you for. You're desperately clinging onto an imaginary period where SE weren't promoting remake tifa and evidence keeps proving it wrong. >And conveniently you still haven't covered any of the other points
I have, you're just blind and don't want to admit that you were wrong.
There's really no point in keeping this up, since you're moronic. I'll let you have the final word though
https://twitter.com/hirodeath/status/1466789311844876290/photo/1
but not before posting another pic of tifa being shown off, this time in December of last year. lmao stupid moron.
these are not the same pics lmao.
don't be moronic like him anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> so nothing counts because that would prove you wrong
well these were debunked.
and anon was right. one was in a shelf, and its the same figures outside of the shelf. so this tells us. its the same dolls being used.
>You still havent
shown other merch
other dolls
wall posters/scrolls/fliers
other trinkets
so on and so on.
you know why? because you are digging in someones twitter.
2 events.
1 small doll case and another with the same exact dolls.
do you know how much XV and Noctis stuff was around? they worship him like a kpop star.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>well these were debunked.
lol because they don't count right >other dolls
there is the plushie doll and the different dresses dolls, but the latter were only recently announced and isn't coming out until later this year
https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/694769/final-fantasy-vii-remake-play-arts-kai-action-figure-tifa-lockhart-dress-ver >they don't count because I said so >wall posters/scrolls/fliers
but I have. You didn't like that it was for an event, so you discredited it. >you know why? because you are digging in someones twitter.
no its because I have proven my claims and you can only rely on >dude trust me
Its all you have. And it why you lost lmao. I hope you cry to sleep with this knowledge.
2 years ago
Anonymous
is like, tifa shes in a small case (and i know that case exactly because again they rotate whats in there) (probably why they are out on the table, they NEVER have figures out on the table like that, everything is always behind something) > so you bullshitted with someone elses trip
and for example you go to Disney land and fricking Rey Skywalker has a whole wall to herself and that did worse than ff7 remake did.
2 years ago
Anonymous
and one last thing for now
why do you fricking care so much about my trip and me saying what i saw? You care because you are paid to care. > i went to the store and they arent selling blue milk > NUH HUH! You blue milk hater! I have someone elses phone pictures on the internet that ive never spoke to in my life as evidence during a blue milk event and random milk they had off in a corner! SEE!
^ this is you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
[...] >don't believe Square enix! you have to believe ME. >no I will not prove it, and the proof you've given doesn't count. Because I said so.
lol
>claim something stupid >mistakenly confuse that because 7remake wasn't the theme of the cafe at the time, that must mean tifa isn't liked >start projecting his anger onto others after getting proven wrong and then keep up with the lie while charts show that her remake figure is a top seller.
There is no need for all of this cope. Just move on.
you are trying too hard. Marketing Anon. If you didnt agree with it you would have said frick you and moved on by now. I'm not about to dox my middle aged ass on the chan, but we went, we spoke had a great time and remake tifa isnt there. not being sold on anything.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>stop disagreeing with me, you can't just prove me wrong with Facts
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
its crazy that you are attacking me over a early summer trip. you have problems and just may be a square employee for the English speakers. If it doesnt sell it doesnt sell. What is it to you? Nipon dont like there drawn art or anime idols censored or tainted by the west. So the conclusion was obvious. Take Xmen for example, they sexualized all the outfits for the females when it was there for a short time back in 2007 for the show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What are you even saying. So you are basically telling me not to believe my lying eyes right? Its the best selling thing ever? > you are in marketing.
And that top seller chart? Break it down further. Where did it sell the best? Hint: it wasnt japan.
>don't believe Square enix! you have to believe ME. >no I will not prove it, and the proof you've given doesn't count. Because I said so.
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
>claim something stupid >mistakenly confuse that because 7remake wasn't the theme of the cafe at the time, that must mean tifa isn't liked >start projecting his anger onto others after getting proven wrong and then keep up with the lie while charts show that her remake figure is a top seller.
There is no need for all of this cope. Just move on.
>I don't like this remake so nobody likes this remake >no it didn't make money because I say so, SE's financial reports are lying >no it didn't push merch like crazy because I say so, SE's financial reports are lying >Nobody is allowed to like this game, I won't permit positive discussion about it
FF fans are the most delusional, reality denying cucks in existence. They have their heads so far up their ass it's unreal.
^ these people are the same people who made the Tifabro threads 2 and a half years ago. And the same people who made the other ff7 threads about mods and everything else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I am the 3rd quote in your post and you're only proving my point. You people are ultra delusional. Thanks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no its you lol, all the IPs you use and everything else. tifa picture after tifa pictures Bros this and Bros that. You live here. Every day. Its how you make your bread and butter i bet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
k
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah it is. i mean look at you right now. you are going bat shit dun care either way but when you go to the doujinshi websites and a game popular as ff only has like 2 or 3 mags of her that means they arent drawing. why arent they drawing?? probably because they know it sucks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
k schizo
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Schitzo
you said this in the tifa bro threads too. no one uses that as an insult but you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Here's my "remake" Tifa.
I like it more.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>i dont believe those charts
Facts don't care about your feelings
2 years ago
Anonymous
still waiting on those facts.
not someones twitter.
[...]
[...]
lieing homosexuals
it's just more donut steel fan fiction for zoomers raised on prequels and sequals to a game they never played
true
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tifa's remake figure is so popular that it was highlighted as a major merch pusher.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol.. sure it was.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes it was. glad we agree.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doubtful, considering how those charts magically show up anytime anything is negativly said about the remake game on these type of threads. So it makes it even more questionable.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>considering how those charts magically show up anytime
Financial reports are always readily available to look up for anyone to see.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/docs/20220513/page02.html
Sorry facts hurt your feelings.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no they havent been and that still raises questions.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no they havent been
Yes they have. Ever since it became Square Enix.
There are reports dating back to 2003.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no they havent been.
>not from console to steam mostly
No, that's absolutely the most double dipping going.
and wrong. god of war maybe but not for ff7 remake, because it did not have a large pool to pull from in the first place. Did we not have 20 threads on opening day attempting to draw attention to it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no they havent been.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/explanatory_20031120_01.pdf
2003
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes,i see that, and they have not been. because it wasnt there in 2003 for the square website. You have problems... the date says 2003... it wasnt on the website
2 years ago
Anonymous
It was
https://www.jp.square-enix.com/company/en/news/2004
jap site goes all the way back to 2004.
2 years ago
Anonymous
now thats an asspull, you said on the website. then you said 2003, now you are saying its on the jap website in 2004... because the website wasnt there in 2003 for the west stupid.
So in short
It. wasnt. always. there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you said on the website. then you said 2003, now you are saying its on the jap website in 2004
these are all true facts. They've always been available. English site goes back to 2003, jap to 2004. >It. wasnt. always. there.
oh it was.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no it wasnt LOL. did you even have the internet in your home in 2003? Because most of america did not assuming you are american. which is doubly crazy if you were in the eu or anywhere else at the time. The net was still starting to get super popular in homes.
Next, it wasnt. When you went to the website in 2003 you didnt get that. its not what it is today. Give it a rest, you werent there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The net was still starting to get super popular in homes.
whether the internet is in homes or not isn't really relevant, since SE themselves put this out, regardless if americans are going to look it up or not. >When you went to the website in 2003 you didnt get that.
Sure you did.
2 years ago
Anonymous
actually you talk to much and have painted yourself in a corner. Not going over the whole conversation but it wasnt there in 2003. Internet access was still up and coming. Yeah you can find it NOW but you couldnt find it THEN.
Because it wasnt there in 2003.
>did you even have the internet in your home in 2003? Because most of america did not
Huh?
2 years ago
Anonymous
they didnt.
>well these were debunked.
lol because they don't count right >other dolls
there is the plushie doll and the different dresses dolls, but the latter were only recently announced and isn't coming out until later this year
https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/694769/final-fantasy-vii-remake-play-arts-kai-action-figure-tifa-lockhart-dress-ver >they don't count because I said so >wall posters/scrolls/fliers
but I have. You didn't like that it was for an event, so you discredited it. >you know why? because you are digging in someones twitter.
no its because I have proven my claims and you can only rely on >dude trust me
Its all you have. And it why you lost lmao. I hope you cry to sleep with this knowledge.
>lol because they don't count right
in your context used? No they dont, events and the same dolls in a picture from someone elses twitter account. one doll dude. not a doll stand, but one doll. real marketing!
>there is the plushie doll and the different dresses dolls, but the latter were only recently announced and isn't coming out until later this year
doesnt have anything to do with what we are speaking of anon.
>but I have. You didn't like that it was for an event, so you discredited it.
and there you go again with word manipulation. you know exactly what im talking about. not giant ad placement.
>no its because I have proven my claims and you can only rely on
you havent proven anything yet. if you are marketing a character for a game that just came out, why would you only have a doll stand and some stickers by the registers or a key chain? Hmm?
>Its all you have. And it why you lost lmao. I hope you cry to sleep with this knowledge.
lost what? You are the only person fighting.
Jessie is coming back in part 2, Wedge has fallen into Deepground and will come back as an experiment to fight against Cloud, Biggs is alive and shown at the end of FF7R.
Literally no one dies in the remakes, even though they all died in OG.
I have no issues with the changes, if they want to make a "new" FF7, it's all good. But don't sell it to me as a remake of the original, tell me straight up it's FF7 reimagined
Someone finally who got it right for the answer > the changes
are bad, but whatever > marketing it as a remake
is the piss. it clearly was not. They knew if they did it as a remake and not a sequel they wouldnt generate much buzz, hype and pre sales. they are paying for this i'm more than sure.
because it was called Remake, not Sequel.
It was advertised as Remake, not new story.
Because they've been teasing a remake for like 10+ years, and when we think they gave us one, it was more Advent Children bait and switch garbage.
They're going to put Genesis in the next game you know, right? Will you still enjoy it when 48 year old Gackt is larping in your ear?
I'm playing through it again now it's on Steam, and i'm enjoying it more than the first time, but it's absolutely worse than the original, and it's overbloated.
>No one with a brain is going to buy the same game twice for no reason.
You're fricking dense if you honestly believe people aren't rebuying games all the time
not from console to steam mostly. and ff7 is not one of those games that needed a rebuy for the 'pc experience' when it brings nothing new to the table.
Changes are fine but they are supposed to make games better not worse. FF7’s plot was already pretty weird and convoluted as it was. They should have streamlined it and kept in the stuff that worked whilst taking out the crap that didn’t. Have a better focus on the major themes. Instead they added on a load of cringe Kingdom Hearts plot and had a billion ghosts fly in randomly every 5 minutes. What a disappointment.
>major themes of the original: >coping with loss >major themes of the remake: >FIGHTING >FATE
nojima deserves just as much hate as nomura for this overdone bullshit
Nojima didn't write shit.
FF7's development cycle lasted 1 year as it was rushed out the door and that's why it had so much cut content.
Nojima joined development 6 months into development because he was busy working on Bahamut Lagoon.
The base of the story was written by Nomura and Kitase using Sakaguchi's first draft about a Detective in New York as bases.
When Nojima joined, the story was already set and his job entailed fleshing out the scenario more, adding details, lore etc. Towards the end of development he decided to add his own idea into the story, this idea was the Zack plot twist.
The twist came so late into development that the team didn't have enough time to add enough foreshadowing scenes into the game and the fact they had to go back and rework some events was also troubling.
Nojima wrote the script/dialogues, the plot twist and fleshed out the lore. That's all he did for the OG.
You just reinforced what I said. The main story was written by Nomura and Kitase. Nojima joined 6 months later when the main story had already been written by Kitase/Nomura. There are many interviews, cherrypicking just one of them isn't disproving what I said. Nojima himself said that his main contribution to the story aside from the script, was the Zack twist. Which he kept a secret from the entire team until he finished writing. The other major events of the game had already been decided earlier by Nomura and Kitase, like Aerith's death etc.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Which he kept a secret from the entire team until he finished writing
he wasn't keeping it a secret, it was a last minute addition. they didn't even include the death scene in the jap. version.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"t. Prior to the late addition of Zack, Nojima had asked the staff to add details to some scenes so as to give clues about him, despite the fact that he did not reveal to the staff Zack's existence until later"
He kept Zack's existence a secret from everyone. Early FF7 ultimanias confirm that both Kitase and Nomura did not know what Zack was gonna be used for. Nojima asked Nomura for a character design, but Nomura didn't know who the character was and where he was gonna be used in. The twist was kept a secret until Nojima was done writing it into the story.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"t. Prior to the late addition of Zack, Nojima had asked the staff to add details to some scenes so as to give clues about him, despite the fact that he did not reveal to the staff Zack's existence until later"
He kept Zack's existence a secret from everyone. Early FF7 ultimanias confirm that both Kitase and Nomura did not know what Zack was gonna be used for. Nojima asked Nomura for a character design, but Nomura didn't know who the character was and where he was gonna be used in. The twist was kept a secret until Nojima was done writing it into the story.
"In the original scenario, Zack didn’t exist
– Mr. Kitase, which scene do you find most striking even now?
Kitase: Like Nomura, I’d have to say the climax in the mental realm. The scene where the mysteries regarding Sephiroth and Cloud all become clear. I didn’t know until we were in the latter stages of development that Cloud’s memories were Zack’s. First of all, when I originally checked the scenario, the character of Zack didn’t exist. Zack was a character who came up as Nojima was building up the mysteries. So until that part was complete I was left wondering just how he was planning to solve this, and all the while making the event scenes, still in the dark about the truth
Nomura: About the concept of her seeing her first love again in Cloud, at first we were thinking of making that man Sephiroth. When I got the request for the illustration of Zack we were already near the end of development, so when you look at it now it’s not even coloured, and I can’t really deny that it feels like quite a sudden request."
>someone (in a group) wrote something good >25 years later they wrote something bad
w-w-what!? this is so confusing to me?
I thought if someone was a part of something good they would churn out gold for the rest of their lives??
>I don't like this remake so nobody likes this remake >no it didn't make money because I say so, SE's financial reports are lying >no it didn't push merch like crazy because I say so, SE's financial reports are lying >Nobody is allowed to like this game, I won't permit positive discussion about it
FF fans are the most delusional, reality denying cucks in existence. They have their heads so far up their ass it's unreal.
I was sold a remake, it wasn't a remake so I got angry
now I'm being sold a wacky sequel and I'm okay with it tbh with you senpai
Nomura should've just been honest from the start
Change scares them because it reminds them that this is no longer the 90s when they were happy kids. They're the same people who will vehemently deny that games don't age or the PS2 isn't retro. These manchildren wouldn't have been satisfied unless 7R was literally a 1:1 remake.
shut the frick up. It it were change you would have markted it as changed. Stop making excuses saying the same things you always say > 1:1 > change scares them > no longer 1997
you are fricking stupid this was a disaster. change isn't anyones problem, its saying it was something that it was never intended to be.
Change scares them because it reminds them that this is no longer the 90s when they were happy kids. They're the same people who will vehemently deny that games don't age or the PS2 isn't retro. These manchildren wouldn't have been satisfied unless 7R was literally a 1:1 remake.
how many times do you plan on same gayging. Any criticism given you are here to defend the game and push false narratives.
>You're free to post valid criticism if you think of any.
no you fricking cant with you. look at the current convos going on right now lol. say one thing and you rush in with NU-UH!! U DUMB!
Buddy, I have made the exact same strawman argument over 2000 times on Ganker alone, and I have ignored every single reply that contradicted my strawman before posting it again, and again, and again. But nice try.
Because they literally lied about the game being a remake when its more of a sequel or whatever.
They had interviews saying it's a remake and no indications at all about it being whatever the Rebuild of FF7lion is.
The problem is that. They didn't need to even touch shitty FFVII universe again. Why the frick a remake or hell a fricking sequel. Literally no one asked for it and the only people that are happy are drooling morons that buy all the CoD and Fifas every single year.
Boomers? I've played original last year and was really impressed: it was good RPG, good Final Fantasy with good story, excellent soundtrack and interesting gameplay. And then I played PC ported Remake and it was disgusting: linear action button smashing bullshit with disgusting side quests, absolutely ruined soundtrack and I'll leave story without comments, everyone's already know what story in the Remake is.
They've made average at best slasher from a cult rpg.
I accepted the new gameplay. I accepted the time jannies. I accepted Aeris's moronic bastardization of her name. I will never accept Tifa's censorship.
FFVII is a shorter game than remake but they won't play it even with all the bullshit cheat options they include as default with releases now because... who knows? The ""clunkiness""? Not enough particle effects? I almost feel bad for zoomies, they're barely sentient.
>um um I actually have lots of valid criticisms um um I just can't think of any right now
Another filtered boomer who doesn't know how to feel joy anymore. Very sad. Many such cases!
is this how one of your discussions go?
>XV
Oh, you didn't play that either. Sorry.
I'll spoonfeed you, moron. They're completely different from one another. Also: >KH
Great >VIIR
Great >XV
Dogshit
>nor is the clone KH combat
Oh, you didn't play the game. Sorry.
>she isnt, and wasnt when those events were not taking place
https://twitter.com/hirokichiDQMH/status/1497100367791755265/photo/1
k so anyway here she is in February. Around the time the kh collab was going on in the cafe and 7remake wasn't being promoted as much. The 25th anny. event didn't happen until after the kh collab finished. >telling me what i DIDNT see while in the square store then restaurant.
Well now that I've met every demand you've whined about, I can definitively say you're either a lying moron, or a blind lying moron.
This
all you do is attack people, post tifa bro mentality shit about it being best game evar then become a greasy c**t and weasel your way out of things when too many people respond. Just like back then, just like now.
I did play the original FF7 though. And just like with Zelda games before BOTW, I don't have any massive nostalgia blinding me so I don't have to pretend okay games are literally the peak of human creation.
no one is saying this because if people want to play the PSX game they can get it from the PSN store or emulator for ePSXe for f r e e.
Being told you are making a game that was a hit in the 1990s then have it be like another moronic shitty game you just made a few years ago is worthy of rage and frustration. > Plotpoints
time traveling ghosts
bad guys traveling time and space dimensions
dead characters coming back
events being retold for a supposed better ending
Final fantasy will always be shit until they go back to turn based combat. And I mean real turn based combat like FF6 7 8 etc style. Stop trying to improve or innovate on what was perfect. Pokemon has the right idea with this. Thank god they kept the winning formula for all this time. Imagine how shit a real time action pokemon game would be.
Not sure why youre laughing homosexual. Everyone will admit the best final fantasy games were good old turn based combat. Then choose some other minor factor as the reason the old ones were better.
>Not sure why youre laughing homosexual. Everyone will admit the best final fantasy games were good old turn based combat.
Older games were never good because of the gameplay you massive moron. It was all about stories and exploration.
so was your parents lack of contraception. i go both ways about the combat, turn base is okay but then you have to deal with random encounters 3d is over used and needs to change.
FF7 remake is actually a little comforting when you realize that while Nomura bastardizes it with his moronic Kingdom Hearts crap, actual creative minds get to focus on making half-decent Final Fantasy games. It's basically a containment project.
I've always liked how nice JRPG characters hair look in games. Like equally soft and hard, or a bunch of string constantly being electrically charged to stand up on end.
This. Japs know what excites the mind of people playing video games. Western devs only insert ugly realism into their games.
>I've always liked how nice JRPG characters hair look in games
Same.
Japan is shit but they make better character designs than Americ**ts anyday
unrelated to changes but I can't fricking stand the amount of times you have to shimmy through tight spaces in Remake. The yuffie dlc got rid of it thankfully thanks to the improved loading times but it ruins replays of Remake.
>shimmy through tight spaces
Only thing worse than loading screens are ones that I have to interact with to progress.
This. It's fine a few times but Jesus frick every game now does it and Remake is one of the worst offenders of it
I got it on Steam and the game seems to be designed around PS4 load times. Like for example when you use the Chocobo fast travel, you can't even hear the actual Chocobo music part if you're on an SSD, which was clearly intended to be heard during the loading screen.
for me it's the
>push the stick forward while your character crawls forward at a snail's pace
Blame the PS4. FF7R only should have ever come out for PS5. The PS5 version is night and day.
man shut the frick up, what a shitty fricking thread holy shit
Basically this
/thread
//threadthread
ladies and gentlemen, meet one of the clowns responsible for the hostility and creation of ff7 threads. Claims hes not barry but hes totally barry.
every time barry old boy, evry timeeeeee
Those gamer are a scam, simple as.
Learn 2 English you moron frick shit
you dont speak good english urself.
>It's not 1997 anymore.
But it should be.
>it's not 1997 anymore
That's not a solid reason for eating shit.
Who cares about those gays, they were going to cry no matter what.
>It's not 1997 anymore
it is for me
as god intended
I was so disappointed there was no secret basement in the remake.
heresy
Crazy how they added an an insane amount of pointless and dull as frick corridors but couldn't bother making a small basement for additional interactions with the crew. Even when they were planning their assault on Shinra and then the celebration too the frickers did right there in the bar were everyone could see and hear them.
it's easy to stretch out an ugly ass hallway with zero details. making one interesting room is too much work now.
the actual bar itself looked fricking awful
>only Midgar game
>still can't even get the minute details right
SOVLLESS shlock
Ultra-Purists get their proper remake too, with Ever Crisis.
The only ones who lost out were those who are neither here nor there and want a "1:1 remake with same gameplay and same scenes but with improved graphics, but would eventually complain about inevitable changes caused by the graphics anyway".
Basically the only ones who really lost out are those who'd be angry no matter how it turns out because their desires are self-contradictive.
>anyone who wanted an actual remake instead of a "reimagining" is an ultra-purist
fricking have a nice day you worthless shit
Ever Crisis is an "actual remake".
But anyone who just wanted a mostly 1:1 HD/4k remake in 3D would haven eventually complained that they "had to pay full AAA game price for a game with little to no new content and the little extra content there was was also shit, so it was a scam!"
People would be looking for a replication of their childhood memories and nostalgia but they wouldn't be able to find it because even with improved graphix it would just be "another replay with a more fancy mod" at best and the complains would start coming in.
You can see how people nitpicked even stuff like all the nuREs, and a so-called "proper FFVII remake" would receive far worse treatment, and it's not like relatively short RE games can even remotely be compared to an epic of tens of hours with unique assets for every new area that is FFVII. It would either take like 20 years to develop, or would otherwise have to compromise on the Unique assets and start becoming a "template open world" such as ME1 was with it's identical bases.
*Whoops, forgot pic
Mother of strawmen, you really are moronic, anon. It's not that they get exactly what they want, but that they don't really know what they really want to begin with and change what they say the want every few minutes. And your point of "the OG was shit" is something no one actually claims other than when you are samegayging that opinion.
Go back to playing the FFXV you love so much, Barry or whoever you are.
>"mother of strawmen!"
>follows up with literally four other strawman arguments while defending his original strawman argument
you're very moronic
Who writes this shit? I just wish the remake had been complete. The title is also rubbish.
>1 game split into 3 + DLC
>Not valid criticism
ThHe thing is, with all that filler content they put for nothing, they really could have make a complete remake in one game.
Dude just pay $250 for one game, it's fine, if you don't do it you're just a hater!
>People would be looking for a replication of their childhood memories and nostalgia but they wouldn't be able to find it because even with improved graphix it would just be "another replay with a more fancy mod" at best and the complains would start coming in.
Then why did people praised REmake 1?
Don't ruin my strawman, purist
>strawman
what the frick is a straw man?
The new gameplay isn't all that and I'm sick and tired of you fricking homosexuals trying to act like this button mashing type of gameplay is good and takes a tremendous amount of skill. A 1:1 remake with turn-based/ATB combat would have been a lot better and those games are a lot more fun than anything else. The worst offense of gaming in the last decade + is pretending like all tech progress is good and makes for a better game.
>implying OG FFVII "takes a tremendous amount of skill"
Let's be real, The gimmick of material and the freedom you could achieve were great concepts, but let's not pretend that it "took a tremendous amount of skill" for anything other than the two optional WEAPON fights maybe.
Anyway, it was the preparation with the Materia that was the great thing in the OG, and you only really got that feeling early on whenever you managed to obtain a new kind of materia, but the busted combos only came in lategame and after an annoying amount of grinding.
But the actual battles weren't all that special because FFVII's ATB was neither here nor there, it was basically the prototype of what would later become FFVIIR's hybrid combat system, but in terms of "strategy and tactics" 90%+ lied in the materia preparation, not in the actual combat. In that regard FFX and actual turn-based was much better.
I do admit thought that whilet he battles themselves were much more engaging overall, FFVIIRemake materia combos compared to OG FFVII were still not exactly exhilarating and I do hope that FFVIIRebirth will both include the tag-team system introduced in the Yuffie DLC for some sick materia combos, and some solo character materia-effect chains, plus some weapon-skill+materia-effect combos, as well.
It doesn't necessarily take a lot of skill but it is fun, takes planning which is fun, is tied to finding a plethora of magic, different abilities, weapons and gear, ALL of which are tremendously cut down in the remake and non tb/atb games. The grinding to get stronger is fun and is a clear way to show progress, it's actually even more engaging than running circles and spamming auto attacks which is literally the same complaint that half of people have for tb but oh since it's in fricking real motion it's so much better. All these games are overrated shit. If you're so concerned with le ebin reflexes why don't you go to an MMA gym or join a sport where that's actually true? Even in shooters it's mostly just learning the maps and where players are most likely going to show up. Video games are a joke because a large amount of the players think it's something it's not.
>The grinding to get stronger is fun and is a clear way to show progress
It wasn't fun at all. It was not fun to farm the damn orange balls for AP while hoping you don't run into a fricking tedious end-game Tomberry instead. You are letting your nostalgia cloud your judgement.
Nah I just replayed ff3 and I had fun; at the most I grinded for maybe 40 minutes when I was legitimately too weak to beat something once or twice.
I am talking about FFVII and not FFIII. In FFVII you didn't even need to grind as long as you didn't rush through things, e.g. not skipping over Gongoa Village or especially not skipping over Wutai in CD1, and also took your time to collect all the items without running from random encounters.
Ever Crisis is going to split the game up into a million chapters filled to the brim with microtransaction bullshit. Frick off shill.
Ever Crisis looks awful in its own way and is riddled with cancerous mobileshit practices.
>Ultra-Purists get their proper remake too, with Ever Crisis
Not FF7 Remake
no one asked for a remake of crisis core. so im still wondering what is up with that.
appear to be the same pictures at different angels. Correction.
Black person the Ever Crisis trailer shows fan fic tier added shit, it aint the same.
all of remake was a fan fiction. why do you think they would stop with just the base game?
How come this looks better than it does on my tv screen?
Because you touched yourself at night.
old games are intended to be played on CRT tvs with scanlines
It's like someone spent time and designed the game with artstyle.
disc 5
not a remake
stfu boomer
It isn't "change", it's some moronic Nomura fanfic that will also take like 8 years to complete
>fanfic
He had some input in the original ff7 as well. He's qualified as its creator.
he designed a couple of random encounter enemies,
>Nomura
I bet you the fact that ia called "remake" is because sephirot is remaling the past or some dumb shit like that and not because is an actual remake
>I bet you the fact that it's called "remake" is because Sephirot is remaking the past or some dumb shit like that
Yes, but also money, if they said from the beginning what they were doing plenty of people who bought the game would've ignored it.
They also didn't want to say how many parts it would be until they had to
Why can't Square make a new game as good as FF VII instead of endlessly milking it?
Why can't zoomers actually make something original?
>It's not 1997 anymore.
thank god
I would still be a newborn
>It's not 1997 anymore.
i wish it was so maybe this time your mom could abort you
FF died with IX. There's a reason why Sakaguchi himself hails IX as the definitive Final Fantasy experience. It was the swan song. Soulless linear cinematic trash ever since. Nomura is a piece of shit moron with cringe taste and cringe ideas.
>IX
Shit game for gay furry morons.
Nomura is the reason Aerith wasn't brought back to life in the original, just to mention one thing. moron.
on average, how many nomura defending posts to you post each day?
>Aerith
Aeris.
Earisu
Kuraudo
Sefirosu
Baretto
Reddo Sirtiin
Kaito Sisu
Yuffi
Ciddo
Vinsento
if only the battles weren't slow as shit
why can’t zoomers can make anything new or original?
The whispers are stupid
>no valid criticism
how about it doesn't need to exist at all?
no game needs to exist
>valid criticisms of remake count: 0
>time jannies aren't a criticism because they're dead
They never should have existed in the first place. Having destroyed them doesn't undo their existence. They still were around, and were shit.
So why exactly did the space jannies need to stop Cloud from killing Reno? What was different in this timeline where Cloud fights and tries to kill him.
time jannies want to see more cloud x reno doujins
plot device.
This
new threat mod did it right
>the original was shit anyway
opinion discarded.
>they're dead now and won't return
LMAOOO
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
>implying a non-time traveler can stop a time traveler
learn 2 time travel stupid noob
based jimbo
>The original game was shit anyway
So much this. The only thing I loved about FF7 was the music. To prove this, I tried re-playing the game with no sound. It was boring.
lieing homosexuals
it's just more donut steel fan fiction for zoomers raised on prequels and sequals to a game they never played
I'd argue that there is some valid criticism of the game but at best they are nit picks and that is all.
I can't even think of them, honestly, but there was autistic idiot that would constantly post webms that showed off how he had no clue how the combat system worked and was upset that he would waste his limits and powerful attacks at a 25% threshold that every fricking boss had.
Yeah you are bullshitting. You are acting like ff7 remake is gamespots 12 10/10 in the sites 20 year history or some shit. The story being dumster tier isnt a nit pick. nor is the repeative quest system, nor are the bosses, nor is the clone KH combat. the same combat nomura always uses for anything he touches.
>nor is the clone KH combat
Oh, you didn't play the game. Sorry.
yeah its the same 3d area nonsense. you didnt play KH, REMAKE or XV for that matter.
>XV
Oh, you didn't play that either. Sorry.
I'll spoonfeed you, moron. They're completely different from one another. Also:
>KH
Great
>VIIR
Great
>XV
Dogshit
and what does this have to do with all of them being bad and having the same shitty combat? press a button to win, ff7 remake not so much but its the same thing with a different coat of paint.
I'm talking about the combat, moron. That was the topic. KH and VIIR have great combat systems, XV has a shit one.
Not him but
>any game that has real time combat in 3d space is KH and has the exact same combat
You're a literal moron that doesn't know what he is talking about. Literal temperature IQ brainlet.
wow double teaming. toss my salad in ff7's defense. what a psycho. they are all the same of each other.
Story is fine. Serves a good purpose and adds to the lore of the original game. Every quest is optional and is there to take it if you want. Combat is the best iteration of any ARPG combat out there, flying enemies are the only slight annoyance but you have multitude of ways to take care of them.
Get gud.
the story is not FRICKING fine, im sick and tired of people saying that. The story is a convoluted mess and bastardization of the original in an attempt to make something to sell to gullible idiots. The story is the biggest point as to why the game is loathed.
>Every quest is optional and is there to take it if you want.
except the ones you cant, like a MMO
>Combat is the best iteration of any ARPG combat out there,
> out there
its the same combat you've had for a decade now in kingdoms and 15
> flying enemies
no one cares
> get gud
we wish the game was actually good.
you can always tell a marketer. they tell you things are good without saying why. and if they do say why its in the most round about obtuse way imaginable.
yes and no.
>Good without saying why
Well when the only argument is this:
it's hard to argue with bare bones criticism.
The game adds onto characterization and themes in and of itself. Expanding on Wall Market, expanding on Avalanche with Biggs, Wedge and Jessie being far more fleshed out are just a few examples of how the story adds onto the lore.
well what are you expecting a novel? because as i said hours ago, all you do is attack like a dog with a freaking bone. its not a discussion, its you defending product.
>Expanding on Wall Market, expanding on Avalanche with Biggs, Wedge and Jessie being far more fleshed out are just a few examples of how the story adds onto the lore.
no, it was padding length for MIDGAR with 100 hours. Knowing full well that the rest of the remake is not going to be that hyper focused and not even a remake at all.
Is the Kalm flash back going to be 100 hours?
Is Junon going to be 100 hours?
Is Costa De Sol 100 hours?
What about North Corel?
Adds to the story is not always a good thing.
Being a facetious c**t an argument does not make. Midgar can be beat in 25 hours. Simple as. I've never attacked other than right now with you being a facetious c**t and being disingenuous at that.
its not facetious you silly c**t.
> Midgar CAN be
no shit. it doesn't change the difference that midgar is the lions share of the game and is all of it.
> Simple as.
and i care why?
> I've never attacked other than right now with you being a facetious c**t and being disingenuous at that.
Black person thats all you EVER DO on ff7 threads. Attack, attack, attack, attack. Fascinating how that can sum up most of nomura's games. just hold the attack button.
>Schizo the post
I just don't get how you're so mad over an enjoyable game.
Oh and also, arguably, you spend the most time in Midgar than any other place in the game. A total of 3 to 6 hours can be spent in Midgar alone in the original game on a first time play through.
> Schitzo the post
no you are Tifa Bros creator and this is your behavior. do you have any idea how insane you were in those days? No one needs to prove anything on that front - you are a rabid paid promoter forcing ideas that you hardly understand yourself.
>I just don't get how you're so mad over an enjoyable game.
because it isn't? I mean some people enjoy eating dog shit like in rick and morty - doesnt make it a national pastitme
>A total of 3 to 6 hours can be spent in Midgar alone in the original game on a first time play through.
and? that was the playstation disk days. it doesnt mean that it should be 90-100 hours with all the content packed in there.
stop attacking.
you can also clip into walls and skip whole parts evidently with the event triggers. midgar is the whole game and it sets a bad precedence.
lolo.
>and adds to the lore
you do realise that this happens even if the story is shit right
like dirge of cerberus is dreadful but it "adds to the lore"
whats the point in adding lore if its fricking garbage? do you care more about filling in wiki pages and autistic theories or the actual quality of the storytelling?
>you do realise that this happens even if the story is shit right
exactly right. its like changing a games story or changing its premise during a remake is somehow adding to the delivery. square cant do it, capcom cant do it and neither can Bethesda. just make new games.
> square cant do it, capcom cant do it and neither can Bethesda.
none of these companies have released anything good in a very long time. the praise for their remake games have more cut content than a vegas drive thru wedding.
"it's good because it adds to the lore" is easily the most worthless and idiotic "praise" you can give a a shit sequel in any medium
>nobody has refuted this
Saved for future use
I recommend others do the same
well you spammed that shit so i think anyone with a brain just ignored you. because you literally had threads about that too. Tifa bro salesmen guy. You can refute everything and anything with facts. There is no perfect game and ff7 remake, a game imported to chinks, sea monkies and some random aulstrailan company to finish? Is full of more holes than swiss cheese.
>um um I actually have lots of valid criticisms um um I just can't think of any right now
Another filtered boomer who doesn't know how to feel joy anymore. Very sad. Many such cases!
>um um I actually have lots of valid criticisms um um I just can't think of any right now
with all the threads you make and curate you know full well what you do when someone has criticism. You never wanted a reasonable discussion. You want to force prove them wrong "you lost" and how there are no valid criticism for the biggest SE flop since the Birth by Sleep. You are a shilling clown.
stop caring about Gankertards opinion. Most here are russian subhumans who can't even play the games if they wanted to
>t. romanian
>Wanted remake
>They announced a remake
>Remake drops
>It's not a remake, but a sequel to the dogshit movie called Advent children
The only reason we have so many morons saying this is fine is because they never played the original
They pulled the wool over our eyes with the "remake" label.
>it's called "Remake"
>but it's not a remake
>"Remake" is part of the title
>as in, the characters get to remake their fates, rewrite their stories
>oh, you wanted an actual remake?
>well, too bad
>enjoy time jannies
>Dogshit movie
*The Spirits Within
I'm going to let you in on a secret, anon: both advent children and spirits within were bad
There, now we can skip the Nomura/Sakaguchi pissing match
We like GOOD changes, and alternate timeline destiny ghost fiesta is not a good change. Also frick that second trip to the sewers, this game had godawful filler on top of a schizo new story
>Specifically reach back into your game series to pull out one of the most beloved entries for a Remake
>Take the original game people loved, but completely change the gameplay, change the story, add in entirely new plot elements that border on it being a sequel, break it up into three separate parts (all of which stretch out relatively short parts of the original), then charge full price for each entry
I can accept changes. Plenty of remakes and remasters change things wildly. Devs will update graphics, alter character models, rebalance the game, add in new mechanics, clean up translations/add in new lines, bring voice acting in, sometimes even add in entirely new areas/content. But they tend to keep the core game intact. After all, that's what people enjoyed. That's why the games were popular back then. So for the FFVII Remake to break a single game up into three parts, completely screw with the story, and shift the genre into straight up action, it may as well not even be the same game.
To which, at that point, make a new fricking game. You're not even making changes, you're just making a new game but reusing the FFVII coat of paint to sell copies. It's trash.
Why can't homosexuals accept the superior coolness of the late 90's and embrace it like normal people do?
OH SHITZ TIMEJANNIES< MULTIVERSE< TIMELINES RESURRECTION ZACK MUH SEPHIROTH EVERYWHERE SOOO COOOOOULZOLJEfulj3rgr3t 14546u LESSGOOOBAYBEE!! It's time to change our destiny boyzz!!!!!!1 Woooooookeflk
thats a troony on the left and he has nudes
Well, post 'em.
It wasn't even Nomura who came up with timejanny dimension section of the ending of FFVIIR as we saw it. Wasn't that Hamaguchi?
Nomura was the director and had to give approval for each idea that was brought to him
Nomura simps want to live in some delusional state where Nomura gets kudos for everything good, but is 100% blameless for anything bad.
They praise Nomura for the combat system, as if Nomura himself made it, but also act like Nomura had NOTHING to do with the bad parts of the story - but ALSO he was responsible for all the good parts.
He was also apparently the only person who made the original game good.
These fanboys genuinely act like Nomura is a godlike figure, single handily creating masterpieces but is surrounded by people who are intentionally trying to ruin his work. That's how they see SE. Once you understand that, these threads make a lot more sense.
Kingdom Hearts was truly a mistake.
versusxiii gave nomura fans a persecution complex they will literally never recover from
I love the first part of the remake. One of my favourite games of all time.
Aerith is trans chuds
Why doesn't square go all in on their new Final Fantasy games and let these old ones fricking go? Its not 1997 anymore.
I can accept changes. I just don't like bad games. And Remake was a chore to play.
Compilation of FF7 always sucked. Sad this wasn't a true remake.
I thought FF7R was pretty good. I mean the gameplay is 10 times better than the shallow turn based combat of the original at least. Here's the problem though:
>split into 3 games to milk it for all it's worth
>nonsensical time janny storyline (if you want to make the story different then just do it without the meta bullshit)
>failed to bring midgar to life in the way it deserved, midgar only really looks like midgar when it's dark and yet most of the time it's bright outside and it just doesn't look like the original game
>side quests are almost entirely pointless busywork
I'd actually enjoy the remake if it wasn't for the fact that they turning it into some pseudo-sequel instead of a proper reimagining of the original.
FF7 Remake was great fun to play and experience. It is, however, a catastrophic mistake in terms of story and the changes they're making. FF7 is a milky, fat, cash cow. They're going to drain that bovine prostitute of all its worth, even if it means rewriting and erasing consequence, so 30+ nostalgia-addled adults will fork out over £70 for every new instalment.
Because square is garbage and they can't make anything good that's new so they need to bait people with a """"remake"""" then do this shit. I loved the original 7 but it truly was the beginning of the end for FF. It introduced too much anime style shit and spawned a terrible community.
>It's not 1997 anymore.
Then why is this series still shit?
You'd think after two decades they'd produce at least one good game, but I guess that's the "power" if japanese devs
>major changes to the story
Call it a reboot, and I won't be upset. A spinoff, even.
I think we all can agree that
FinFan7R is a
>good game
>okay FinFan game
>terrible remake/sequel to FinFan7
>FinFan
This is pasta right? If not frick all the way off you transsexual idiot
FF7R is what finally made me accept that Squeenix just doesn’t have it.
Ever since around FFXII just waiting for them to come back and wow us like the old days, but just getting steadily worse and fricking everything up. FF7R was their last chance to turn things around, but then they went off a cliff.
Unironically agree. There's no point in telling the same story of FF7 twice. It's more exciting if things are similar, but different enough to keep the audience wondering what might happen next.
gays who complain about FF7R story deviating from what they know should just play FF7.
The problem is the "remake is actually a stealth sequel" is getting massively played out. It's uninspired at this point.
>gays who complain about FF7R story deviating from what they know should just play FF7.
What about people who don't mind it deviating from what they know, but who want it to be different and good instead of different and shit?
Those people ruin my strawman argument so I don't acknowledge them.
>want it to be different and good instead of different and shit?
It will always be different and shit in their mind. You can't please nostalgiagays.
Gimme an example of good and different
Remake without time jannies
Now give me an example of something different and bad
Or would you be buying it no matter what?
Sephiroth time travels without using time jannies or lifestream
You think you can ruin my strawman argument? I simply double down. That's the beauty of a strawman argument.
>There's no point in telling the same story of FF7 twice.
If you genuinely believed this then you wouldn't "remake" FF7 at all, as there's no reason to use the same setting, story and characters AGAIN.
Can't have your cake and eat it too.
My issue with the whole remake issue is that people only seem able to discuss it in extremes. Very few actually measured evaluations/criticism is being accepted, whenever you have some valid criticism on the lighter side, but also some praise for other aspect, you will be chewed out from both sides as a "mindless hater" but also a "SE apologist" at the same time. But what else to expect from Ganker. The only sad thing is that this actually extends beyond just 4chins.
The only good thing that came out of FF7R is the coomer mods for PC version.
>coomer
>discord troony raid lingo
kys
I don't even use discord and I'm proud of my small 5 inch dick.
But please keep on throwing buzzwords left and right, if it makes you happy.
we should be more like 1997
why are people acting like ever crisis is a 1:1 remake for purists even though it's been clearly demonstrated and explained that it's not?
it's very obvious why they do that
>It's not 1997 anymore.
Exactly, so stop wearing it as a skin suit and stop milking the nostalgia of idiots.
>force walk
>cut-scene
>force walk
>dialogue
>camera shows you where to go
>"Oh maybe we should go there"
>force walk
>battle
>Oh hey fighting mechanics are pretty go
>battle over in 20 sec
>force walk
FRICK
THIS
GAME
I can't even go through Yuffie DLC, there's absolutely no exploration at all in this game.
And guess what ? In the original game you coudl explore a fricking map in less than 6 hours. I've been playing 60hours of this shit and it's not even over yet ?
Frick you Nomura.
Frick. You.
The changes are all for the worse, is that too hard for your pea brain to understand? There was nothing wrong with FFVII's story, but adding all this shit with time ghosts and ruining Sephiroth's fall to madness with the Crisis Core garbage hurt the story. The only people who like the compilation changes seem like Naruto/Bleach Shonen homosexuals
>old jrpgs
>art was inspired, graphics were groundbreaking, gameplay relied on knowledge and experimentation.
>new jrpgs
>3 different art styles: realistic, retro, or "dragon quest like"
>gameplay is always just a shitty clunky dmc.
>mechanics are shallow and explained with one slide of a tutorial screen
>everything is a glorified hallway. No diversification, no minigames.
Jrpgs are dead. I'm still gonna hold out hope for star ocean 6 though. I think if I gave up hope entirely I would kms.
Nobody plays jrpgs for the gameplay or the art style. It's all about the cute girls.
Star Ocean 6 is going to be great. The girls are very cute. Maybe I'm just a sucker for those doll baby faces they have.
>Nobody plays jrpgs for the gameplay or the art style. It's all about the cute girls.
Virgin hands typed this post.
Yes, and?
You're of no value to this world in any way and your stupid opinions shitting up my image board should've ended years ago with a short drop and a quick stop.
> Nobody plays jrpgs for the gameplay or the art style.
thats not true, and people are not obsessed with doll faces or what not. Its the games they are in that is the combo that sells. Cute girls doing action-y things.
It's true. Most jrpgs have dogshit boring and braindead gameplay, and people don't care. Gameplay literally doesn't matter in a jrpg. It's about how cute the girls are.
again not true. most have a alot of good gameplay elements and thought put into them.
> if you wanted agame about cute girls only with anime features
they are called gatcha games.
>most have a alot of good gameplay elements
Like what? All turn-based jrpgs require 0 skill or thought. All action-based jrpgs are also braindead easy and the bosses are glorified punching bags.
Just because the battle effects are pretty, doesn't mean the gameplay is good. It's all very superficial. But it doesn't matter, since none of the jrpg players ever complain about the combat involving no skill. They're playing it for the pretty flashy effects and cute girls.
> Like what? All turn-based jrpgs require 0 skill or thought. All action-based jrpgs are also braindead easy and the bosses are glorified punching bags.
I'm just stating the facts. I played a couple dozen jrpgs in my life, including both turn-based, action-based and hybrids. And all of them were shallow in the gameplay department. All of them were easy enough to be beaten without any concious effort.
> facts
your views. gotcha. But it isnt the case.
>I played the most low-effort surface level nu-rpgs and can now make sweeping statements about a 40 year old genre.
go back to Ganker with that level of bait.
>Like what? All turn-based jrpgs require 0 skill or thought.
Guide reader cope. Growing up with SNES / PS1 rpgs was the peak of human existence and you now live in humanity's pitiful shadow.
>Growing up with SNES / PS1 rpgs was the peak of human existence and you now live in humanity's pitiful shadow.
I played all of the most popular jrpgs on PS1. And they were all baby shit games that involved little to no effort to beat.
Not saying I hated them for being too easy. I enjoyed them for the atmosphere, music and characters. And that's the point - people who play jrpgs don't care about combat. They want easy, braindead gameplay so they can enjoy the story, atmosphere and characters.
>t. Square babby.
You didn't play real jrpgs. You played theme parks.
Name 3 jrpgs that require more than 3 brain cells to beat.
We didn't ask for a sequel and didn't want one, zoomer.
>game gets advertised as a remake and is called a remake
>turns out it's actually a sequel
>WHY DIDN'T YOU LIKE THE SUBVERSION!? IT'S NOT 1997 ANYMORE!
> subversion
>Change is always good no matter what
>EAT SHIT, I LOVE EATHING SHIT SO YOU SHOUD LOVE EATING SHIT AS WELL
Yeah no, your just a braindead moron.
I like how Crisis Core, a game which absolutely has a ton of story shit that could be changed for the better, is the one getting a more faithful remake. For people saying not to be afraid of change or be attached to the past the people in charge of this whole project certainly seem attached to all the compilation bullshit from years ago.
I'm not afraid of change, i just want is what is advertised. Sell me a beer and it turns out to be horse piss i dont expect our waitress to say "dont be afraid of change". I want a refund at that point, and i wont be back.
anyone else get the feeling that the remake ship is sinking and it isn't going to sell? Not even a fraction of the first shitty game remake?
morons will spend their money on it because of brand recognition alone and them not having subject themselves to play the original now that they have a modernized option, theres no escaping this hell.
Im in the camp of the ship has sailed. People know what the remake game is now and only the brained wash faithful will remain. no one wants alot of ghost story in crisis core, and even then those that actually played the game are in the very very small minority.
I still believe they wont change that much anything. Just the key events like aerith dying will have some twist over it. The rest will be just more of part 1: adding and re-arranging events.
I understand why people overreact so much though, but i still think that those who think "everyone is gonna live" is just delusional as frick. I trust kitase and Nomura, specially Nomura. What they said about "making something new but familiar" resonates a lot to me, like they are gonna making you feel like playing the original for the first time again.
Either way, im excited to see how eveything goes.
Ganker told me the game was comfy, and now I'm at a point where an important character died! Did you homosexuals lie to me? Does this story sucks???
Jessie is confirmed to come back in the next game. Players will encounter her in Golden Saucer. But that's a Jessie from another timeline, so she will have different memories from the party.
no one wants jessie or cares about her. this is further reason why the remake game is a trash heap of bad ideas by out of touch men.
this is the same market manipulated Ganker that told everyone Tifa was not censored and was hot. When what she's known for: her breast and legs is quite literally covered in black censorship bars. There is a reason why nothing exists on her in Japan.
you knew she was going to get reduced but yeah she was. black stockings and back shirt. "imagine not thinking tifa in stockings isn't hot". That fire is still being put out.
>There is a reason why nothing exists on her in Japan.
lol
remake tifa. shes non existent over there. She went from being on products and various tourist shit to not even being front and center in the square store and restaurant when we went last year. No i dont live in japan but i visit because family does (navy).
>shes non existent over there.
kek
she is and i dont believe those charts for a heart beat as they can be manipulated. Remake tifa sold less than older FF characters from the other games. Trust me when i say from first hand experience, shes behind other characters from other games in the store and is not in the store in her remake form.
>she is and i dont believe those charts for a heart beat as they can be manipulated
>Square Enix lied to shareholders because I say so
>No I don't have proof for anything but you WILL believe what I say.
lmao
i didnt say that, so dont rush to kick down what i said. those charts of sales are always questionable. Especially after the kindom hearts fisaco and the review embargos yet "overwhelming positive sales". But i dont care if you beleive me or not, thats your business.
>those charts of sales are always questionable.
>I say this but can't explain why
ok
>Especially after the kindom hearts fisaco and the review embargos yet "overwhelming positive sales".
yes, highest selling game in the franchise.
>But i dont care if you beleive me or not,
You would need to prove what you say first ha ha
And here we go.
I need to prove what i said? what you want to see photos from my phone during my trip?
>I need to prove what i said
Make a broad statement and then get proven wrong with actual stats from SE themselves. You don't need to prove anything, because you've already lost.
what did i lose? And when was it a race? Remake Tifa isn't advertised, accepted or even marketed in japan. listen to me hard as you can - i dont care if you believe me or not. you're the only one acting like a monkey or the other posting sales nonsnese that still mean nothing. How many sold in japan? how many of them were shiped vs sold? can we go into detail? It doesnt matter
>Remake Tifa isn't advertised, accepted or even marketed in japan
https://thebestjapan.com/02-08-04-24-final-fantasy-vii-remake-cafe/
lol
>i dont care if you believe me or not
well having objective proof that you're a lying homosexual sure helps lmao
Do you know how old that article is? That is not there now. It was taken down after an incredibly short time. It was an event that is now long gone.
Why are you ass pulling in a hurried defense? when did i say it wasnt there?
>That is not there now.
>Square Enix changing up their themed cafes is news to you
oh my lord, did you actually not know this? KEK
Your stupid fricking ass went to the cafe, at a time when they were promoting another game, and thought no one liked tifa. Good lord you're moronic.
>when did i say it wasnt there
>shes behind other characters from other games in the store and is not in the store in her remake form
stupid, a liar and has a short memory.
>Ok slow down, because you are fighting because you are either a paid promotion guy or a pyscotic fan boy.
I went when it wasnt the promotion. It is not there now and from what we heard when speaking it was only for a few days and they brought it back out again for a little while then put it away.
>stupid, a liar and has a short memory.
dude shes not on the shelf, walls, menus or the goofy trinkets. you know who is when you look? The original one from the 97 game.
you need to chill my friend. take a trip and go yourself.
>claim something stupid
>mistakenly confuse that because 7remake wasn't the theme of the cafe at the time, that must mean tifa isn't liked
>start projecting his anger onto others after getting proven wrong and then keep up with the lie while charts show that her remake figure is a top seller.
There is no need for all of this cope. Just move on.
What are you even saying. So you are basically telling me not to believe my lying eyes right? Its the best selling thing ever?
> you are in marketing.
And that top seller chart? Break it down further. Where did it sell the best? Hint: it wasnt japan.
>mistakenly confuse that because 7remake wasn't the theme of the cafe at the time, that must mean tifa isn't liked
Do you know how the store works Marketing Anon? Like talking down like this may work for teenagers but you'd have to be full moronic to fall for this nonsense as an adult lol.
show me where it sold. that will prove the point for you.
>No I will not prove what I said, you're just lying
anon pls, you're projecting your own hatred onto japs and thinking they hate the new tifa.
Excuse me? I didnt say they hated it i said they dont like it because shes no where to be seen. When she's always been markted in japan on the streets and manga shops. Hint: its not my first time going to the stores, shops or caffee. When you see her shes in her 97 get up. Not the remake get up. Which means.... after several years post release... it didnt do well. Rey Anami is still on the front of a building in a LCD screen ad near several stations. Did you know that?
>they hated it i said they dont like it
I'm actually talking to a bonaifde moron.
>Not the remake get up.
>she just isn't ok
Anon, you have to take a step back and look at yourself in the mirror. Remind yourself that you are the minority, not the majority.
LOL, oh god this is college psychologly 101 nonsense. Hey listen, if anime characters from 2000 are still used in tie ins and what you state is the best selling Tifa ever is nowhere to be seen but the original is seen in the store, outside the store and the shops around the area. What does this tell us?
> you need to stop
being offended over this.
what facts? She wasnt there. and we spoke to staff. they dont answer everything but they will chat about the store and its history when you ask about that.
>facts from fans personal visits to the cafe and from square enix themselves?
>nope I got the best source of all: dude trust me
lmao, bonafide moron.
and just to prove you're a lying moron
https://twitter.com/SQEX_MD_GOODS/status/1400989782000345092/photo/1
>June 2021
lol
last year we went, that is not there now.
Thank you and have a good day. Marketing Anon.
> Hint
all that shit is vanished.
>last year we went
>june 2021 wasn't last year...Square Enix is just lying about what year it is...
kek I accept your concession. Your tears sure are delicious.
You are crazy.
Did i stay in japan 365 days? Its gone. The staff even said that they had something but they were having a new display for the DQ series. So i guess thats what they moved. But all points about my trip still stand. Markting Anon go market to someone else.
again im impressed of the lengths you went to dig up something to prove that im being dishonest. why would a lie about a trip i took? Oh i made it alll up.
Dreamcast internet wasnt the interent, it even said so when you attempted to use it with Microsoft CE that it had built in.
>how do i know this?
i had one with 56k dialup. Go away.
>again im impressed of the lengths you went to dig up something to prove that im being dishonest
>quick google search
lol
>prove that im being dishonest.
Well I've already proven it. You made a false statement, made up a lie about SE not promoting remake tifa and then I proved it wrong by posting facts.
It doesn't really matter if you want to keep lying, because I've objectively proven you're a liar.
> Well I've already proven it. You made a false statement, made up a lie about SE not promoting remake tifa and then I proved it wrong by posting facts.
I never said that, not even once. So why are you going so hard out of your way to twist my words into saying something i never said? She isn't popular in Japan, she currently isnt marketed in the store and all her memorabilia is her 97 designed stuff or outfit or whatever.
You are the one that has something to prove here my friend. You have a problem or you are in sales and marketing.
> It doesn't really matter if you want to keep lying, because I've objectively proven you're a liar.
still waiting for you to tell me where i lied. I'm here for the next 9 hours. lets go.
>She isn't popular in Japan
which is a lie
>she currently isnt marketed in the store
>still waiting for you to tell me where i lied.
another objective lie lmao, from like 3 days ago
https://twitter.com/zexionkh13/status/1540916735200862210/photo/1
2 minutes, you didn't have to wait long lmao
this isnt the store..
this is how tht page translates
[Exchange] ARTNIA FF7 Final Fantasy Coaster
Yuzuru Image ※ Some past bullets.
Sky Tree ○ Tifa Aeris
ARTNIA Aeris Vincent
Request Image Square Enix Cafe
AC BC Turks Vincent Cloud
Priority is given to transactions ○ . Can be handed over in Tokyo
So again, you are still bullshitting attempting to prove me wrong.
No, remake tifa is not popular in japan not like the original. You keep acting as if i said NOTHING EVER was made on her. Which is obviously untrue. I said she was and IS no where to be found in the store when her 97 version is.
> you are batshit.
>So again, you are still bullshitting attempting to prove me wrong.
I'm not but I can keep posting more pics if you wish.
You probably shouldn't have made such a big lie like this when SE is having the 25th anniversary cafe event right now lmao.
cont
even if thats the case look what it is, mousepads and stickers. and those are only on display near the registers.
again, no shit. its the 25 anniversy. and thats a cheap shot. of course they would have it there for the 25 anniversey. Now tell me very clearly how this proves me wrong and im lying? When i said she wasnt there during our visit and evidently havent been for a long time.
Post picks from a month ago and the month before that.
>When i said she wasn't there during our visit and evidently havent been for a long time.
https://twitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1543024905096396800/photo/1
yesterday lol
If it at any point you want to apologize, I will gladly accept it.
>Post picks from a month ago and the month before that.
>no you can't just post pics from a year ago or yesterday, they have to be during a period where SE weren't promoting her
>it must exist somewhere, it has to...
lol
Yes, thats great. And you've already shown as to why... the 25th anniversary. All that? you are posting? Wasnt there when it wasnt the anniversary.
So you are telling me instead of luring in this one twitter user you aren't going back to prove a valid point over 60 days prior? Why not??
>Wasnt there when it wasnt the anniversary.
This wasn't the anniversary but shes still being promoted ha ha ha
>valid point over 60 days prior?
Your grasping onto an imaginary period where tifa wasn't being promoted while I show that's not true. You can doing it but its going to be in vein.
(Same anon)
i mean think about what you've used. Being 100 percent open minded. A tie in event and another tie in event being the 25 calibration. Why wouldn't they bring out things and characters related to it then?
Any other time? It isnt there.
And there you go again, twisting words. Like i just pointed out above, that was from before with another event. not the 25 years.
>Your grasping onto an imaginary period where tifa wasn't being promoted while I show that's not true
she isnt, and wasnt when those events were not taking place. Again, you are rushing to prove me wrong telling me what i DIDNT see while in the square store then restaurant. You have problems.
>she isnt, and wasnt when those events were not taking place
https://twitter.com/hirokichiDQMH/status/1497100367791755265/photo/1
k so anyway here she is in February. Around the time the kh collab was going on in the cafe and 7remake wasn't being promoted as much. The 25th anny. event didn't happen until after the kh collab finished.
>telling me what i DIDNT see while in the square store then restaurant.
Well now that I've met every demand you've whined about, I can definitively say you're either a lying moron, or a blind lying moron.
> one doll dude.
one doll. You are full of shit LOL!!!!! yeah. thats a doll. again, you've never been to the store and how they treat ff7, 10, and 9 like the holy grails. FF7 shit is everywhere when you walk in, like a replica of clouds bike on a stand.
Hey message whoever that twitter user is and ask her to show you all the 97 stuff around the store. Like whats mostly in the picture you showed....
wow you really went through someones twitter to find just one picutre. LOL! Yeah, remake tifa isnt there. In a case sorrounded by other dolls isnt helping that
>one doll
well yes, that's the standee. They give you the box with the figure when you actually want to buy the figure.
>all the 97 stuff around the store. Like whats mostly in the picture you showed....
Well now that you've exposed yourself, I have to add that most of the figures in that pic are the casts' remake designs. Only cloud has his advent children one also marketed in that display.
>In a case sorrounded by other dolls isnt helping that
well all you've done is proven that you're a blind lying moron and have never actually played 7remake, so I don't really think you have much more ground to stand on.
dude i know how the check out works in the store, ive been there several times already.
>Well now that you've exposed yourself, I have to add that most of the figures in that pic are the casts' remake designs. Only cloud has his advent children one also marketed in that display.
thats nice, but what does this change?
>well all you've done is proven that you're a blind lying moron and have never actually played 7remake, so I don't really think you have much more ground to stand on.
i havent lied since ive gotten here. tifa isnt there and if she is its in a small minute section, the posters and and other memorbelia of her isnt there for remake tifa. and yeah, i played the game and it was boring.
Still waiting for the previous months instead of the 2 pictures from EVENTS you plan on showing me and a one off doll rack in the corner. You do know how big that store is right? Oh no you dont, you never went. you need someones twitter. ffs.
>thats nice, but what does this change?
>FF7 shit is everywhere when you walk in, like a replica of clouds bike on a stand.
>all the 97 stuff around the store. Like whats mostly in the picture you showed....
the fact that you can't tell the difference between what 7remake and og ff7 looks like might explain why you falsely claimed tifa wasn't being advertised, thinking that japan doesn't like her. She was being advertised, you're just a huge moron who can't see.
>tifa isnt there and if she is its in a small minute section
the pics I've posted say otherwise.
>Still waiting for the previous months
k,
.
From February.
Like I said, you're a blind lying moron.
and again playing on words to paint a narrative.
> the fact that you can't tell the difference between what 7remake and og ff7 looks like might explain why you falsely claimed tifa wasn't being advertised,
she isnt. you showed a doll. and i said, the big posters, wall scrolls and various memeborila isnt there. becuase .. you know.. its not.
> February.
I know and i said...
> Still waiting for the previous months instead of the 2 pictures from EVENTS you plan on showing me and a one off doll rack in the corner.
you wont answer these questions because that would require you digging in another twitter or hurry up and google search something but you cant find anything. Points stand. Tifa is not the hot showcase peice in her remake form, but the original. A doll in the corner, and 2 events isnt changing the point as when i went twice it wasnt the case.
Are you done bullshitting? i mean im here all day. so please do go on.
>she isnt. you showed a doll.
but previously
>shes behind other characters from other games in the store and is not in the store in her remake form.
So you lied, then have to marginalize the truth by saying that it's just a figure.
>instead of the 2 pictures from EVENTS
And that pic in February wasn't from an event. But you don't want it to count, this time without any good reason.
>i mean im here all day.
Besides the fact that you're only proving how stupid you are, I wouldn't brag that you're stuck on Ganker, losing an argument about remake tifa.
Again, i never once said she was NOT in the store. I said she wasnt in the store being showcased. That shelf gets changed with different figures all the time because that figure? wasnt there during our trip.
> And that pic in February wasn't from an event. But you don't want it to count, this time without any good reason.
thats all that you have to go on and still will not provide any further months. you have a whole year. Go do some research. And even then, it was a ONE OFF DOLL.
>Besides the fact that you're only proving how stupid you are, I wouldn't brag that you're stuck on Ganker, losing an argument about remake tifa.
I spoke about a trip i had, you are having the argument. And conveniently you still havent covered any of the other ponits i mentioned. That is suspicious as frick.
> if they dont make porn of a toon, it isnt selling.
iron law of japan, 3 doujinshi comics in 3 years now? and one has her breasts so huge even i say -thats a bit silly-
They still make porn of the original tower of durga series from 3 decades ago. think about that.
based dyslexic anon
well im not wrong.
and i need to step in here. you are posting what appear to be the same pictures at different angels. the real questions to ask:
> is the new tifa better than the old
no
> is the new tifa setting japan on fire
also no
> is new tifa being marketed everywhere as the old one
does it matter?
>> is new tifa being marketed everywhere as the old one
the answer is no. went in and out of shops and even went to a shop where they sell 'h stuff' its confusing as all hell and they cover up the covers in liners so its not in your face. such a weird experience.
so goalpost moving and still wrong, I gotcha.
>thats all that you have to go on and still will not provide any further months.
No, you wanted it before the event started and I granted your wish. I even posted a pic from last year, when you claimed it wasn't being promoted.
But this just goes back to what I said earlier and made fun of you for. You're desperately clinging onto an imaginary period where SE weren't promoting remake tifa and evidence keeps proving it wrong.
>And conveniently you still haven't covered any of the other points
I have, you're just blind and don't want to admit that you were wrong.
There's really no point in keeping this up, since you're moronic. I'll let you have the final word though
https://twitter.com/hirodeath/status/1466789311844876290/photo/1
but not before posting another pic of tifa being shown off, this time in December of last year. lmao stupid moron.
didnt move shit Marketing anon, stop posting from peoples twitter accounts.
>No, you wanted it before the event started and I granted your wish. I even posted a pic from last year, when you claimed it wasn't being promoted.
amazing how you are still dancing around that. It was a doll and the other 2 were events...
> but not before posting another pic of tifa being shown off, this time in December of last year. lmao stupid moron.
that is the same exact one. thats the same doll.
Holy fricking shit. You are insane.
ok since you INSIST
>It was a doll and the other 2 were events...
so nothing counts because that would prove you wrong
>that is the same exact one
nope
>to be the same pictures at different angels
these are not the same pics lmao.
don't be moronic like him anon.
> so nothing counts because that would prove you wrong
well these were debunked.
and anon was right. one was in a shelf, and its the same figures outside of the shelf. so this tells us. its the same dolls being used.
>You still havent
shown other merch
other dolls
wall posters/scrolls/fliers
other trinkets
so on and so on.
you know why? because you are digging in someones twitter.
2 events.
1 small doll case and another with the same exact dolls.
do you know how much XV and Noctis stuff was around? they worship him like a kpop star.
>well these were debunked.
lol because they don't count right
>other dolls
there is the plushie doll and the different dresses dolls, but the latter were only recently announced and isn't coming out until later this year
https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/694769/final-fantasy-vii-remake-play-arts-kai-action-figure-tifa-lockhart-dress-ver
>they don't count because I said so
>wall posters/scrolls/fliers
but I have. You didn't like that it was for an event, so you discredited it.
>you know why? because you are digging in someones twitter.
no its because I have proven my claims and you can only rely on
>dude trust me
Its all you have. And it why you lost lmao. I hope you cry to sleep with this knowledge.
is like, tifa shes in a small case (and i know that case exactly because again they rotate whats in there) (probably why they are out on the table, they NEVER have figures out on the table like that, everything is always behind something)
> so you bullshitted with someone elses trip
and for example you go to Disney land and fricking Rey Skywalker has a whole wall to herself and that did worse than ff7 remake did.
and one last thing for now
why do you fricking care so much about my trip and me saying what i saw? You care because you are paid to care.
> i went to the store and they arent selling blue milk
> NUH HUH! You blue milk hater! I have someone elses phone pictures on the internet that ive never spoke to in my life as evidence during a blue milk event and random milk they had off in a corner! SEE!
^ this is you.
you are trying too hard. Marketing Anon. If you didnt agree with it you would have said frick you and moved on by now. I'm not about to dox my middle aged ass on the chan, but we went, we spoke had a great time and remake tifa isnt there. not being sold on anything.
>stop disagreeing with me, you can't just prove me wrong with Facts
lol
its crazy that you are attacking me over a early summer trip. you have problems and just may be a square employee for the English speakers. If it doesnt sell it doesnt sell. What is it to you? Nipon dont like there drawn art or anime idols censored or tainted by the west. So the conclusion was obvious. Take Xmen for example, they sexualized all the outfits for the females when it was there for a short time back in 2007 for the show.
>don't believe Square enix! you have to believe ME.
>no I will not prove it, and the proof you've given doesn't count. Because I said so.
lol
^ these people are the same people who made the Tifabro threads 2 and a half years ago. And the same people who made the other ff7 threads about mods and everything else.
I am the 3rd quote in your post and you're only proving my point. You people are ultra delusional. Thanks.
no its you lol, all the IPs you use and everything else. tifa picture after tifa pictures Bros this and Bros that. You live here. Every day. Its how you make your bread and butter i bet.
k
yeah it is. i mean look at you right now. you are going bat shit dun care either way but when you go to the doujinshi websites and a game popular as ff only has like 2 or 3 mags of her that means they arent drawing. why arent they drawing?? probably because they know it sucks.
k schizo
>Schitzo
you said this in the tifa bro threads too. no one uses that as an insult but you.
Here's my "remake" Tifa.
I like it more.
>i dont believe those charts
Facts don't care about your feelings
still waiting on those facts.
not someones twitter.
and what does this chart tell us
true
Tifa's remake figure is so popular that it was highlighted as a major merch pusher.
Lol.. sure it was.
Yes it was. glad we agree.
Doubtful, considering how those charts magically show up anytime anything is negativly said about the remake game on these type of threads. So it makes it even more questionable.
>considering how those charts magically show up anytime
Financial reports are always readily available to look up for anyone to see.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/docs/20220513/page02.html
Sorry facts hurt your feelings.
no they havent been and that still raises questions.
>no they havent been
Yes they have. Ever since it became Square Enix.
There are reports dating back to 2003.
no they havent been.
and wrong. god of war maybe but not for ff7 remake, because it did not have a large pool to pull from in the first place. Did we not have 20 threads on opening day attempting to draw attention to it?
>no they havent been.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/explanatory_20031120_01.pdf
2003
yes,i see that, and they have not been. because it wasnt there in 2003 for the square website. You have problems... the date says 2003... it wasnt on the website
It was
https://www.jp.square-enix.com/company/en/news/2004
jap site goes all the way back to 2004.
now thats an asspull, you said on the website. then you said 2003, now you are saying its on the jap website in 2004... because the website wasnt there in 2003 for the west stupid.
So in short
It. wasnt. always. there.
>you said on the website. then you said 2003, now you are saying its on the jap website in 2004
these are all true facts. They've always been available. English site goes back to 2003, jap to 2004.
>It. wasnt. always. there.
oh it was.
no it wasnt LOL. did you even have the internet in your home in 2003? Because most of america did not assuming you are american. which is doubly crazy if you were in the eu or anywhere else at the time. The net was still starting to get super popular in homes.
Next, it wasnt. When you went to the website in 2003 you didnt get that. its not what it is today. Give it a rest, you werent there.
>The net was still starting to get super popular in homes.
whether the internet is in homes or not isn't really relevant, since SE themselves put this out, regardless if americans are going to look it up or not.
>When you went to the website in 2003 you didnt get that.
Sure you did.
actually you talk to much and have painted yourself in a corner. Not going over the whole conversation but it wasnt there in 2003. Internet access was still up and coming. Yeah you can find it NOW but you couldnt find it THEN.
Because it wasnt there in 2003.
Dreamcast had internet fricko
Thats 1999
>did you even have the internet in your home in 2003? Because most of america did not
Huh?
they didnt.
>lol because they don't count right
in your context used? No they dont, events and the same dolls in a picture from someone elses twitter account. one doll dude. not a doll stand, but one doll. real marketing!
>there is the plushie doll and the different dresses dolls, but the latter were only recently announced and isn't coming out until later this year
doesnt have anything to do with what we are speaking of anon.
>but I have. You didn't like that it was for an event, so you discredited it.
and there you go again with word manipulation. you know exactly what im talking about. not giant ad placement.
>no its because I have proven my claims and you can only rely on
you havent proven anything yet. if you are marketing a character for a game that just came out, why would you only have a doll stand and some stickers by the registers or a key chain? Hmm?
>Its all you have. And it why you lost lmao. I hope you cry to sleep with this knowledge.
lost what? You are the only person fighting.
Jessie is coming back in part 2, Wedge has fallen into Deepground and will come back as an experiment to fight against Cloud, Biggs is alive and shown at the end of FF7R.
Literally no one dies in the remakes, even though they all died in OG.
No one's ever really gone.
I have no issues with the changes, if they want to make a "new" FF7, it's all good. But don't sell it to me as a remake of the original, tell me straight up it's FF7 reimagined
a reimagination is a remake.
Someone finally who got it right for the answer
> the changes
are bad, but whatever
> marketing it as a remake
is the piss. it clearly was not. They knew if they did it as a remake and not a sequel they wouldnt generate much buzz, hype and pre sales. they are paying for this i'm more than sure.
everyone is insane that's why
because it was called Remake, not Sequel.
It was advertised as Remake, not new story.
Because they've been teasing a remake for like 10+ years, and when we think they gave us one, it was more Advent Children bait and switch garbage.
They're going to put Genesis in the next game you know, right? Will you still enjoy it when 48 year old Gackt is larping in your ear?
I'm playing through it again now it's on Steam, and i'm enjoying it more than the first time, but it's absolutely worse than the original, and it's overbloated.
Oh wow, does this mean i should run and buy it on steam too? No one with a brain is going to buy the same game twice for no reason.
>No one with a brain is going to buy the same game twice for no reason.
You're fricking dense if you honestly believe people aren't rebuying games all the time
not from console to steam mostly. and ff7 is not one of those games that needed a rebuy for the 'pc experience' when it brings nothing new to the table.
>not from console to steam mostly
No, that's absolutely the most double dipping going.
Changes are fine but they are supposed to make games better not worse. FF7’s plot was already pretty weird and convoluted as it was. They should have streamlined it and kept in the stuff that worked whilst taking out the crap that didn’t. Have a better focus on the major themes. Instead they added on a load of cringe Kingdom Hearts plot and had a billion ghosts fly in randomly every 5 minutes. What a disappointment.
>major themes of the original:
>coping with loss
>major themes of the remake:
>FIGHTING
>FATE
nojima deserves just as much hate as nomura for this overdone bullshit
Nojima wrote the og
Nojima didn't write shit.
FF7's development cycle lasted 1 year as it was rushed out the door and that's why it had so much cut content.
Nojima joined development 6 months into development because he was busy working on Bahamut Lagoon.
The base of the story was written by Nomura and Kitase using Sakaguchi's first draft about a Detective in New York as bases.
When Nojima joined, the story was already set and his job entailed fleshing out the scenario more, adding details, lore etc. Towards the end of development he decided to add his own idea into the story, this idea was the Zack plot twist.
The twist came so late into development that the team didn't have enough time to add enough foreshadowing scenes into the game and the fact they had to go back and rework some events was also troubling.
Nojima wrote the script/dialogues, the plot twist and fleshed out the lore. That's all he did for the OG.
You just reinforced what I said. The main story was written by Nomura and Kitase. Nojima joined 6 months later when the main story had already been written by Kitase/Nomura. There are many interviews, cherrypicking just one of them isn't disproving what I said. Nojima himself said that his main contribution to the story aside from the script, was the Zack twist. Which he kept a secret from the entire team until he finished writing. The other major events of the game had already been decided earlier by Nomura and Kitase, like Aerith's death etc.
>Which he kept a secret from the entire team until he finished writing
he wasn't keeping it a secret, it was a last minute addition. they didn't even include the death scene in the jap. version.
"t. Prior to the late addition of Zack, Nojima had asked the staff to add details to some scenes so as to give clues about him, despite the fact that he did not reveal to the staff Zack's existence until later"
He kept Zack's existence a secret from everyone. Early FF7 ultimanias confirm that both Kitase and Nomura did not know what Zack was gonna be used for. Nojima asked Nomura for a character design, but Nomura didn't know who the character was and where he was gonna be used in. The twist was kept a secret until Nojima was done writing it into the story.
"In the original scenario, Zack didn’t exist
– Mr. Kitase, which scene do you find most striking even now?
Kitase: Like Nomura, I’d have to say the climax in the mental realm. The scene where the mysteries regarding Sephiroth and Cloud all become clear. I didn’t know until we were in the latter stages of development that Cloud’s memories were Zack’s. First of all, when I originally checked the scenario, the character of Zack didn’t exist. Zack was a character who came up as Nojima was building up the mysteries. So until that part was complete I was left wondering just how he was planning to solve this, and all the while making the event scenes, still in the dark about the truth
Nomura: About the concept of her seeing her first love again in Cloud, at first we were thinking of making that man Sephiroth. When I got the request for the illustration of Zack we were already near the end of development, so when you look at it now it’s not even coloured, and I can’t really deny that it feels like quite a sudden request."
Oh great so they are trying to fix that rushed development
Nice
>someone (in a group) wrote something good
>25 years later they wrote something bad
w-w-what!? this is so confusing to me?
I thought if someone was a part of something good they would churn out gold for the rest of their lives??
I didn't care for FF VII in 1997 and I don't care for it today.
so you basically came into a gay bar to say you dont like gays and shrug. Go out side anon.
what's with the gay shit at the honeybee inn?
its a prostitute house for both sexes. are you new here?
>defending cloud dancing a proffessional routine
he should have stood there and did nothing
Imagine a Remake of Titanic and Iceberg is a israeliteisch Merchant.
Do you think the majority would accept this change?
>I don't like this remake so nobody likes this remake
>no it didn't make money because I say so, SE's financial reports are lying
>no it didn't push merch like crazy because I say so, SE's financial reports are lying
>Nobody is allowed to like this game, I won't permit positive discussion about it
FF fans are the most delusional, reality denying cucks in existence. They have their heads so far up their ass it's unreal.
schizos still think its a sequel
> schizos
now you know the sales team is here now. why are you everywhere?
>advertise game
>make different game
>laugh at people who wanted game
It's fine when the changes are good.
These weren't.
The same reason fighting games have been the same since the snes
Boomers cant adapt to shit
I was sold a remake, it wasn't a remake so I got angry
now I'm being sold a wacky sequel and I'm okay with it tbh with you senpai
Nomura should've just been honest from the start
I think the third game might be called Return.
Only issue I had with remake were some of the outfits. If they would have just gave us alternatives or even dlc it would have been fine.
Change scares them because it reminds them that this is no longer the 90s when they were happy kids. They're the same people who will vehemently deny that games don't age or the PS2 isn't retro. These manchildren wouldn't have been satisfied unless 7R was literally a 1:1 remake.
shut the frick up. It it were change you would have markted it as changed. Stop making excuses saying the same things you always say
> 1:1
> change scares them
> no longer 1997
you are fricking stupid this was a disaster. change isn't anyones problem, its saying it was something that it was never intended to be.
This
how many times do you plan on same gayging. Any criticism given you are here to defend the game and push false narratives.
>Any criticism given
You're free to post valid criticism if you think of any. All I hear is the screaming of manchildren who hate change.
>You're free to post valid criticism if you think of any.
no you fricking cant with you. look at the current convos going on right now lol. say one thing and you rush in with NU-UH!! U DUMB!
>wouldn't have been satisfied unless 7R was literally a 1:1 remake
Can't you come up with a new strawman?
Buddy, I have made the exact same strawman argument over 2000 times on Ganker alone, and I have ignored every single reply that contradicted my strawman before posting it again, and again, and again. But nice try.
so you are the tifa bros man/pair of men. gotcha
Even I can tell this is Jimbo and I am a newbie in FF7R threads. Is Barry real too?
k
have a nice day
Does beating Yuffie’s campaign add any perks to the main game like FF15 or is it just the super boss unlock?
You add weiss superboss
I liked it. But I never played the original. So...
Because they literally lied about the game being a remake when its more of a sequel or whatever.
They had interviews saying it's a remake and no indications at all about it being whatever the Rebuild of FF7lion is.
The problem is that. They didn't need to even touch shitty FFVII universe again. Why the frick a remake or hell a fricking sequel. Literally no one asked for it and the only people that are happy are drooling morons that buy all the CoD and Fifas every single year.
Why can't the changes be good instead of bad and turbo israeli? Having to pay $250 for one game in 3 volumes is pretty fricked up.
If they released one complete remake which was exactly what you wanted and cost $60 you would have hated it
You don't know me and making it cost more money isn't going to make me like it.
Boomers? I've played original last year and was really impressed: it was good RPG, good Final Fantasy with good story, excellent soundtrack and interesting gameplay. And then I played PC ported Remake and it was disgusting: linear action button smashing bullshit with disgusting side quests, absolutely ruined soundtrack and I'll leave story without comments, everyone's already know what story in the Remake is.
They've made average at best slasher from a cult rpg.
Don't ruin my purist boomer strawman
Ok zoomer.
>Abortion gets repealed
Why can't zoomers accept change? It's not 2018 anymore
meds
I accepted the new gameplay. I accepted the time jannies. I accepted Aeris's moronic bastardization of her name. I will never accept Tifa's censorship.
Why can't zoomers play anything that was released before 2010?
FFVII is a shorter game than remake but they won't play it even with all the bullshit cheat options they include as default with releases now because... who knows? The ""clunkiness""? Not enough particle effects? I almost feel bad for zoomies, they're barely sentient.
this.
is this how one of your discussions go?
all you do is attack people, post tifa bro mentality shit about it being best game evar then become a greasy c**t and weasel your way out of things when too many people respond. Just like back then, just like now.
I did play the original FF7 though. And just like with Zelda games before BOTW, I don't have any massive nostalgia blinding me so I don't have to pretend okay games are literally the peak of human creation.
yeah, like i said you spammed that shit all through the thread. you are the tifa bros creator.
>1 game split into 3 + DLC
>Not valid criticism
B-But you're getting 120 hours of content throughout those games! It's worth the money!
No you're getting 40 hours of content STRETCHED to 120 hours
80 hours midgar. a par of the game that took 30 minutes to 2 hrs. that is all
How about you stretch my ass instead, brother?
Same reason why Zoomers can't stop crying when someone disagrees with them. It feels wrong.
because i just wanted the original game with up do date graphics, that's it
no one is saying this because if people want to play the PSX game they can get it from the PSN store or emulator for ePSXe for f r e e.
Being told you are making a game that was a hit in the 1990s then have it be like another moronic shitty game you just made a few years ago is worthy of rage and frustration.
> Plotpoints
time traveling ghosts
bad guys traveling time and space dimensions
dead characters coming back
events being retold for a supposed better ending
Okay zoomer, go play the ''remasters'' without playing the original then
Final fantasy will always be shit until they go back to turn based combat. And I mean real turn based combat like FF6 7 8 etc style. Stop trying to improve or innovate on what was perfect. Pokemon has the right idea with this. Thank god they kept the winning formula for all this time. Imagine how shit a real time action pokemon game would be.
>Final fantasy will always be shit until they go back to turn based combat
KEK
Not sure why youre laughing homosexual. Everyone will admit the best final fantasy games were good old turn based combat. Then choose some other minor factor as the reason the old ones were better.
>Not sure why youre laughing homosexual. Everyone will admit the best final fantasy games were good old turn based combat.
Older games were never good because of the gameplay you massive moron. It was all about stories and exploration.
They were good. youre the massive moron. Action gameplay takes away from the characters and the story.
>Action gameplay takes away from the characters and the story.
what the frick is this moronic take holy shit
Can the changes stop being for the worse?
>It's not 1997 anymore.
thats the problem.
Haha what if they turned out to be gay lovers this time.
wouldnt shock anyone. Cloud is incredibly fraternal with the girls in his party when all of them would mount and bone him given the chance.
so was your parents lack of contraception. i go both ways about the combat, turn base is okay but then you have to deal with random encounters 3d is over used and needs to change.
you know his ass got blasted when the feedback came in. this was not a home run for square or nomura.
Action combat is better because it lets me peek under my character's skirt easier during combat.
It's not even replacing the original. That's the entire point of the game. Some people are just supremely moronic and don't realize this.
all this bullshit with organization XIII ghosts just so they can keep Aerith alive. It's like a bad joke.
this isnt going to do well. people were hesitant about it before in the convoluted compilation.
FF7 remake is actually a little comforting when you realize that while Nomura bastardizes it with his moronic Kingdom Hearts crap, actual creative minds get to focus on making half-decent Final Fantasy games. It's basically a containment project.