Eastern sensibilities care more about how cool something is rather than how plausible.
You know what the most plausible mecha design is? It's something that we already have: tanks.
Which is silly because mechs aren't plausible to begin with. Mecha detractors often deride eastern meches as being unrealistic when western mechs are just as unrealistic. The only difference is that one gives realism the middle finger and does what they want while the other chases after it in a misguided attempt to be taken seriously.
That's eastern vs western media in a nutshell really. Of course both have silly and serious stuff but on average western productions always fake themselves too seriously.
For example just compare Yakuza with Red Dead Redemption.
Not him but you're absolutely fricking moronic. no one, not a single soul would call tanks "mecha" unless you deliberately pair them up side by side in giant robot land because some mechs do wear treads. You don't call World of Tanks something like World of Mecha do you? of course not, homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
A whole country calls tanks Mecha... The tanks and APCs in MGSV are referred to as Mecha. This argument at this point is purely semantic. Like how any animation is considered as anime in Japan, any MECHAnism is considered Mecha in Japan. So yes, Tanks, guns, automobiles and computers are Mecha.
You're mistaking Mecha for giant robots or robotto.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>A whole country calls tanks mecha
They don't. >The tanks in MGSV are referred to as mecha
The tanks absolutely are fricking not. They might refer to D-walker or the Metal Gears this way, but this is because they walk on bipedal legs. >Any mechanism is considered mecha in Japan, so tanks guns automobiles and computers are mecha
If you want to be a dumb mouthbreathing mongoloid with no conception of reality, do it on another board.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They don't
They do. Just like how they call the Simpsons anime in Japan. They call all mechanisms Mecha in Japan. >tanks are absolutely not
But in the beginning credits of each mission that has tanks always says they're the featured Mecha and then what model tank they are. >mouthbreathing mongoloid
Japanese people are of the mongoloid race though?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Just like how they call the Simpsons anime in Japan.
not him but i find that very hard to believe. anime and cartoons are so distinctly different. maybe you're just being cute an using it as a blanket term.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, anime (and Mecha) are just more specific outside of Japan.
Outside of Japan, anime = Japanese cartoons. Inside of Japan, anime = cartoons.
Same with Mecha. In Japan it's just any MECHAnism. Like tanks an guns and cars and giant robots. There's a distinction though, between normal Mecha and giant robots. Giant robots are Robotto. But since foreigners know Mecha just from Gundam anime and stuff like that, they consider only robotto Mecha as Mecha.
You think a cylinder with ridiculous bug legs is plausible? That thing would incapable of balancing itself or having a decent range of movement. Meanwhile, the right image is just a bipedal human form is - guess what - realistic.
>Eastern sensibilities care more about how cool something is rather than how plausible.
We have a moving gundam "statue" though. Can't say we have ones of western mechs.
If you saw two sentences in that post that has zero punctuation marks in it and called it grammatically correct then I'm sorry to say that the moron here is you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine complaining about grammar on this Mongolian Basket Weaving Forum. Blow your brains out, homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm not the one that brought grammar into it by saying "his post has correct grammar".
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shut up you semantic reddit homosexual, your original post complained about it barely being English. Now hurry up and have a nice day, don’t forget your parents will bury you under your birth name.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he thinks that post was mine too
Well this is embarrassing. I didn't join your reply chain until after you made that grammar comment anon.
>cutting down trees is fun
..shit i think im compelled to agree but this is a slippery slope for the us and planet lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pines are some of the fastest growing timber, 20-30 years for them to fully grow IIRC. So long as it's kept to plantations I don't see any real issue with it. Land clearing for other purposes is a whole other bag of worms.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nobody cut regular forests in civilized countries anymore. It's all commercial forests.
>implausible weapon >west still tries to make them as realistic as possible
They're just not at all plausible so you might as well go fricking bonkers with it.
Sometimes making something implausible as realistic is possible is the most bonkers thing to do, and also really fun.
Shin Godzilla portraying a realistic Godzilla scenario was fun, for example.
>Eastern sensibilities care more about how cool something is rather than how plausible.
When it comes to the argument of what is "plausible." The Nip flying frickers with legs still win the argument. "Realistic" western mechs fundamentally do not work both in the argument of basic shit like square cube law, AND in the argument of combat viability.
Japanese mecha deliberately eschew the technological limitations of our present time, often aiming for a far flung future where machinery has reached such a peak that the engineering involved may as well be magic. If you COULD build a giant robot that could break the sound barrier and have all the agility of a superhuman despite its size, then it'd be a legitimate threat and viable in a combat situation.
Not in a million years will a Timber Wolf EVER be viable.
Most eastern real robot style mecha also has the lower tier sensible western mechs too, usually reserved for grunts, specialist, non-military or smaller scale operations and the big humanoid mechs are the state of the art hyper advanced unit that usually get fielded in relatively small quantities.
Not that anon, but I wouldn't say it was bad or sucked. I got a good 60 hours or so out of it. When I played it during release, it just had a lot of balance issues. Like the infantry felt entirely pointless and the population cap felt absurdly low (which contributed to infantry being useless because they took up a good chunk of the limited pop cap that could go to mechs). The game was also just too fricking slow in the beginning, felt like there was no way to really speed up resource gathering so the early game was always just a drag. Also can't remember which civ it was since it's been a while since I played it, but one of the three was just magnitudes better. It had a lot of good ideas, the setting was unique and cool, just had a lot to be desired that they honestly could have fixed by now with balance updates
last I played, which was last year, It felt exactly as you describe it with the early infantry game being ignored in favor of rushing to the mechs in order to gain the upper hand. But I'm not to sure on the comp side of things, only played three matches, and most of the players did the same. They really need major gameplay overhauls to some of these balance/systems like Coh2 did early after release.
It wasn't THAT bad, it just felt like a worse company of heroes. Honestly the mod that ports over a bunch of Iron Harvest stuff into Gates of Hell feels better
Game is a good reminder that the engine is the most important part of an RTS; everything is super floating and the pathfinding is god awful, like significantly worse than Brood War
Its actually a perfectly fine game, its just not nearly as good as it should have been, and as a result doesn't really make you want to stick with it for more then maybe the campaign and a couple of rounds with friends.
>be 'namese soldier defending a moderately sized military camp >start hearing Fortunate Sons which slowly gets louder and louder. >panic.exe as other soldiers get on the AntiAir gun expecting an american air raid. >but the helicopters are nowhere to be seen or heard, while the music is getting ever louder. >Start to also hear thumping sounds >Start seeing bird flocks flying up in the distance >The music and the thumping sounds are getting loud. >See trees getting casually pushed aside in the forest. >See a 20m hulking machine emerging from the closely located treelines while Fortunate Sons is blasting from it.
KINO SETTING SPOTTED
You might like Gundam 8th MS Team. It follows the 8th MS team during their deployment in the jungles of SE Asia. Its been a while since I've seen it so idk how well plot holds up, but it has some of the best fights in any Gundam series.
its good but plot gets moronic like most gundams
man but some scenes are cool
I wish there was a more serious realistic mech show
obsolete is pretty good but first ep is the best one in my opinion
Well in the Battletech/Mechwarrior universe one of the reason if not the biggest reason why the Clans lost their invasion was because of infantry.
They had completely forgotten the concept of fielding infantry, in all the wars they had between them it was always mechs vs mechs or tanks at most but infantry they had completely forgotten about it so they were unprepared in facing it.
Their ridiculously expensive and hard to repair mechs would get ambushed constantly by infantry shooting missiles into the leg joints or the gyro crippling them.
Also infantry was completely undetectable by mech sensors arrays so their mechs were completely blind to ambushes.
Because for whatever reason, russia has been sending its tanks in unsupported. If you look at any competent nations use of tanks, they are used as support for an attacking infantry force to destroy hard targets, not as a sole attacking force by themselves.
Saying tanks are obsolete is like saying helicopters or planes are obsolete because missiles exist. You can shoot down a modern jet with a shoulder mounted missile too if you catch it while its taking off. Its the infantries job to make sure there arent any enemies with shoulder mounted missiles near the airfield, not the jets.
Russian tanks are getting blown up left right and centre because the Russians are spectacularly shit at proper combined arms warfare. Their reconnaissance is awful, their infantry are basically useless, and everyone at every level is taught to fight with essentially WWII tactics for some unfathomable reason.
On top of understanding how to deploy and tanks properly (in theory anyway), the latest Western tank designs are starting to mount effective anti-missile defence systems which will only improve as time goes on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>everyone at every level is taught to fight with essentially WWII tactics
have you read anything on this conflict besides /misc/?
2 years ago
Anonymous
/misc/ is overwhelmingly pro-Russia
2 years ago
Anonymous
*FSB and Wumao have lots of shills on /misc/. Serbian flags are the only legit pro-russians there other than commies themselvs
I bought 4.1 to play with some friends but we only played it for a couple of hours. Is 5 enough of an improvement to justify the purchase or should I just finish off 4.1 instead?
It's more of the same as 4.1, really. The games are definitely best enjoyed with friends and people. Might be better to wait until EDF6 comes out if your friends lost interest. The games are Gankercore so anons will make a bunch of lobbies and play them together when EDF6 comes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Alright, I'll try to get a friend or two back into 4.1 and then play 6 when that's out. Thanks.
>Capcom still hasn't removed GFWL from LP2 and added it back onto the Steam store
I know they farmed out LP3 to a western studio but did they fire all the devs in the process or something?
they integrated windows live so much into it they stated it would be like rebuilding the game from scratch to remove it. As they have attempted to already. What they did was managed to make a “fix” for it which if you dont mind installing a driver and logging into your windows account, allows you to still enjoy it with multiplayer and all.
one of the problems was they intended to release more updates, missions, G rank akrid like monster hunter. It all got shitcanned though which is upsetting cause that game was amazing.
they integrated windows live so much into it they stated it would be like rebuilding the game from scratch to remove it. As they have attempted to already. What they did was managed to make a “fix” for it which if you dont mind installing a driver and logging into your windows account, allows you to still enjoy it with multiplayer and all.
one of the problems was they intended to release more updates, missions, G rank akrid like monster hunter. It all got shitcanned though which is upsetting cause that game was amazing.
those VH suits are so fricking nice looking
Capcom redemption is only possible if they bring LP back
I can't fricking cope bros... Why did western critiques unfairly malign this game when it came out? Why did Lost Planet have to die..?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I always want to play a Lost Planet game but then have to realize all Lost Planet games are bad
Man I wanna watch VOTOMS again but I think I've already watched all the good (cel) ones.
My favorite was mellowlink, I love the way that the protagonist being a rogue soldier amplified the feeling of how slow, heavy, and dangerous these things are.
Not technically, definitely is power armor
The games make the player pretty lightweight for comedic effect but those suits and operators weigh several tons and the suit will twist and snap the limbs off of anyone not drugged up, fit enough and biologically enhanced to wear them
Likewise I’m pretty sure the alien power armors are mostly the same in philosophy except they’re already strong enough to wear them more like vests than actual power armor
There was a (probably scripted) SyFy reality show where they had poorly made robots fight each other. Maybe we'll get something like this but much more advanced and exciting to watch in the future
They'll always be terrible for mass production, but for "elite" forces they could be very useful. Which to be fair is hot most giant robot universes work to begin with.
Frick off, people thought tanks will never be practical but here we are, we just need another world war to kickstart weapon research again.
BELIEVE homosexualS IT'S GONNA HAPPEN
This isn’t true. Look at how much BigDog has advanced and the bipedal robots darpa also made. Bigger versions with guns are a 100% certainty. Just a matter of when.
Look at what they are working on now. https://youtu.be/nBy1piJrq1A
Doesn’t seem expensive. Imagine little cheap spider bots like this with tiny guns guns.
I bet a bigger version of this wouldn’t be too costly. Look at the new police robot dogs they have. Not very expensive either. Google says around 70k. Attach a gun to it and some AI and you have a dog sized mech. Upscale the b***h for a recoiled rifle or 50 cal sniper and you got yourself a real mech. High armor would be the real problem but having armies of cheap ai driven walking robots would be cheaper than an army of crewed tanks I bet.
>mech battles may be the future super-sport
It's already a sport now. Just less big stompy things and more remote control roombas with knives on their heads.
I wouldn't say never.
There is a narrow range of circumstances where legged vehicle would have an advantage, like a mountain gun.
Equation changes drastically if we include other planets. Mars would be mech heaven because it is absurdly rocky and has significantly less gravity.
What would never happen would be bipedal mechs, because bipedalism is a consequence of evolutionary limitations rather than physics.
No they won't. Anyone in the military will tell you that they buy from the lowest bidder aka "military-grade" mean cheap, usually inferior equipment compared to their civilian versions (boots) to give to everyone else. The US is one of the richest countries and spends the most on their military and they still don't want to replace their m4 and m16s because it's just cheaper to arm the average grunt with it over anything else.
>musk and gaben are already working on chips they can put in your brain to control computers >the most natural thing to link a human up to would be something human shaped >heavily armored heavy weapon platforms with the dexterity and fine motor skills of a human
I could maybe see something like the MTs in Armored Core, which were originally made for heavy lifting tasks, maybe one day in the far FAR off future existing. But we will very likely never see something like an actual Armored Core or Gundam Mobile Suit like in pic related.
>gunpowder is not practical >tanks are not practical >airplanes are not practical >lasers are not practical >drones are not practical >mechas are not practical <--- you are here >battle spacecrafts are not practical
Western artists don't have the mech fetishism that Japs do so they usually try to make something that's semi-plausible as a real-life machine instead of a bunch of cool-looking metal triangles vaguely in the shape of a human holding a laser sword or a giant gun
I'm making a MaK inspired game. Really want to make a model of my main character once I've finalized the design. It'd be super fun to use my own model as the cover art or whatever
Western styled mechs are supposed to be advanced tanks. But they're stupid if that's what they're for, as I'm sure a million autists will gladly explain why.
Jap styled mechs are more like advanced fighter jets that can also operate on land when needed. Their main aspect is having significantly more mobility and speed than even the fastest of tanks.
That said something like the Think Tank or Tachikomas from GitS is the most "realistic", combining the advantages of a tank (low profile, can "crouch" even lower, high speed), with the advantages of a mech, (can pass otherwise impassable for a tracked vehicle terrain, can move laterally, and the smaller Tachikomas can not only stick to walls like spiders but also jump, and stupidly well at that.)
Their cyberwarfare suite and invisibility tech are both irrelevant for the comparison since both can seemingly be put on any chassis.
I'm saying the thing that crawled out of the primordial ooze that eventually turned into us didn't in it's evolutionary path ever seem to think that walking is "the worst form of transportation".
The advantage to being bipedal is that it gives a better platform for throwing shit, and that it allows relatively energy efficient movement over long distances. It's hard to call it "bad" or "good" as a comparison, it's suited to humans for what their evolutionary advantages were but comes with significant drawbacks in other areas; namely, it's hard to support from a skeletal standpoint, it's not particularly good for swimming or climbing, and it's much harder to balance, which also leads to the need for a more complex brain.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm saying the thing that crawled out of the primordial ooze that eventually turned into us didn't in it's evolutionary path ever seem to think that walking is "the worst form of transportation".
Japanese mechs are physically impossible even if we advanced power efficiency technology by 10 times.
We would need to discover anti-gravity to create the stabilizers needed for such a humanoid design, on top of the whole energy efficiency needs to be very advanced.
Left is a armed and armoured fighting machine designed to fit the aesthetics of 1920/30s diesel technology.
The right is a mech designed to look like a mech. It's drawn that way for the same reason Westerners give all superheroes skintight jumpsuits.
>It's drawn that way for the same reason Westerners give all superheroes skintight jumpsuits
But superheroes all have skintight outfits because naked form with splotches of color in it is easy as frick to draw repeatedly over the course of numerous pages. Can't say the same for jaggy edges japanese mechs.
Originally, but now Superhero comics don't have a reason for anything that happens in them beyond "well, it's a superhero comic so it HAS to be this way." It's a completely self referential genre that parasites its own clichés.
>what is megas? >what is iron giant >what is gyspy danger?
The US can do mecha just fine when it wants to, the problem is there's so much bureaucracy in the creative process these days that a lot of it gets watered down to pander to braindead normalhomosexuals instead of just making it for people who enjoy mecha.
megas is a comedy series, pacific rim is quite literally a love letter to mech and kaiju movies. Iron Giant is the only one that is a bonafide western mech.
Transformers was originally japanese, then burgers got the rights and made their own bastardized version then nips tried to copy the success and make their own version of the burger version. That got shut down, then nips made what was basically NOT! transformers and that actually got pretty big.
What's a cool mech supposed to be then? And let's not pretend that Japan doesn't also do non-humanoid mechs better (Just look at anything Shinkawa Yoji or Masamune Shirow does)
>And let's not pretend that Japan doesn't also do non-humanoid mechs better (Just look at anything Shinkawa Yoji or Masamune Shirow does)
This. Hell, Japan mogs the west so hard Mechwarrior literally stole shit from Macross.
Poland isn't West.
It's like, worse version of the West because they try to imitate Western mentality, which looks pathetic.
Even SEABlack folk have more soul than poles.
What's alleged about it anon? Macross came out 2 years before Battletech.
Shit like the phoenix hawk is literally "hey bro lemme copy your homework "okay bro but just change it a lil so it's not obvious".
I beat Mechwarrior 5 just yesterday, it was my first Mechwarrior game and I had a pretty good time with it
The only things I didn't like were >the economy balanced around salvage and recouping repair costs makes getting tangible progress too slow >mech customization is too limited
Should I check out the other games in the franchise as well?
If you gays hate sleek forms and legs so much just slap shit onto a mech until it becomes a space cruiser/mobile gun platform + radome array + huge acceleration
I always envisioned a scenario where every mech design has a place in a multi branch effort against Italy
Japanese mecha, humanoid brawlers and swordsmen, American mecha, slow and lumbering but capable of storing a comically large amount of artillery and firepower, whatever that design is in the OP, etc
I don't remember all of them as well but the one to Turn A's top right is Symbionic Titan, to the bottom right of Turn A is the combaticon combiner Bruticus.
not sure about the rest of the left side but right side is: >Frost Wanzer from Front Mission >Armored Trooper from Armored Trooper VOTOMS >HOUND from Chromehounds >Metal Gear D from Metal Gear 2 >Fifth Generation Armored Core from Armored Core V
>Transformers >west
Transformers started as a few Japanese toy lines, mostly Diaclone, licensed by Hasbro to use their toy molds to sell in the US. All of that shit came from superior nippon folded 10000x strong mecha designs.
>comparing something from a Dieselpunk setting to some sci fi shit
I know this is bait but it's still fricking got me just for how utterly fricking moronic the comparison is
they should have made it a classic RTS with resource gathering
gathering oil and iron would have been badass as frick in a dieselpunk setting
instead of fricking gay cap zones
Western style mechs are just glorified tanks, a product of the West's aggressive militarism and desire for globalist expansion.
The East's mechs are designed with storytelling in mind. They represent an idealized version of what the pilot wants to be, and serve as an impenetrable armour that protects the pilots vulnerabilities, both in a physical and emotional sense.
>Western style mechs are just glorified tanks
Frick you, tanks are cool. There is no greater team than a tank crew working in tandem to anihilate the enemy with their lives on the line.
>western mechs take all of the speculative engineering and dramatic intrigue inherent to the tank/boat crew story framing device and go even further into sci-fi with it >eastern mechs are just tokushit characters with uglier weapons and no sick high-flying acrobatics
>Western style mechs are just glorified tanks
Because these are the only designs that make sense.
>Something something pilot wants to be inside, power of friendship, great big blah
Jesus christ dude, go outside. This is not, and never has been compelling and its one of the worst parts of eastern mecha anime.
While we're on the subject, don't you have your own containment board?
>Because these are the only designs that make sense.
No it doesn't. You're literally increasing the visibility of the vehicle and giving it massive weakpoints that will make it useless if they're hit.
All vehicles have massive weakpoints that will make it useless if they're hit, dude. They're the squishy bits that drive the vehicle, the combustible fuel/battery/power source that drives the vehicle, and the joints that allow the vehicle to walk, among others.
Disregarding this is prime delusion of the first order. Magical metal that allows things that shouldn't be able to walk a short distance to fly around and somehow protect their pilots from high powered cannons is a total fantasy, and it always will be.
>Because these are the only designs that make sense.
Always a terrible excuse for making a boring design. And besides, unless you're an autistic engineer that can't suspend their disbelief, eastern mech designs make sense too, as [...] says.
>Boring design
Designs that might actually work are more interesting than baby's first design bullshit. Simple as.
>Any eastern mecha >Cannot walk >Cannot fly >Not even really reasonable to build >If we had a power source capable of powering them, it would be so heavy that it would prevent the vehicle from moving >If we had armor capable of protecting them, it would be so heavy that it would prevent the vehicle from moving
There's actually a reason we use tanks, you dumb mong. Stretching out the massive, frickhuge weight of a combat vehicle along a lot of surface area is what allows them to move. Without treads, the whole thing falls apart. You can't carry armor, you can't carry weapons - do you think your average car would even move with 12 tons of armor plate and a 155mm howitzer on top?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Again, see
>Eastern sensibilities care more about how cool something is rather than how plausible.
When it comes to the argument of what is "plausible." The Nip flying frickers with legs still win the argument. "Realistic" western mechs fundamentally do not work both in the argument of basic shit like square cube law, AND in the argument of combat viability.
Japanese mecha deliberately eschew the technological limitations of our present time, often aiming for a far flung future where machinery has reached such a peak that the engineering involved may as well be magic. If you COULD build a giant robot that could break the sound barrier and have all the agility of a superhuman despite its size, then it'd be a legitimate threat and viable in a combat situation.
Not in a million years will a Timber Wolf EVER be viable.
You're limiting these mechs, both of eastern and western design, to modern time problems when they're often set in ridiculously unspecified times in the future. You're suspending disbelief on western mechs having power sources that can run them in perpetuity but the idea of metamaterials that blow your mind in the same way that chromium would blow the mind of a caveman is apparently too far.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Grug not suspend disbelief
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Common arguments in favor of western mechs are that they're "SO REALISTIC OMG" >Apply realism to them and point out how they wouldn't fricking work in any capacity >NOOOOO SEE IF I NITPICK VEHICLES THAT DO WORK AND ARE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE, I CAN JUST IGNORE SQUARE CUBE LAW
If you're gonna ignore the laws of physics, you're already in the same camp as Japanese giant robots. You're a clown in everything but appearence.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>apply realism >to things you literally cannot apply realism to by the nature and lore of those materials
Damn anon. I didn't know you studied the tensile strength of a cord made out of Luna titanium, a thing that totally exists in real life and therefore can be quantified.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you admit mechs of any kind aren't even close to realistic?
So why the frick even bother with the versions that try to desperately pretend they could happen in real life? It's like looking at a dragon and arguing that can't exist because it has six limbs instead of four like typical lizards, so you make a new version that just has four legs. So now you've got a giant komodo dragon which captures none of the spectacle of an actual dragon, it's just a giant fricking lizard.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So why the frick even bother with the versions that try to desperately pretend they could happen in real life?
Ask tankgays. Most of the time the ones that go "hurr it can totally work in real life" are the ones that favor mechs that handle like reskinned tanks.
>All vehicles have massive weakpoints that will make it useless if they're hit, dude. They're the squishy bits that drive the vehicle, the combustible fuel/battery/power source that drives the vehicle, and the joints that allow the vehicle to walk, among others.
This is peak fricking cope. Two giant pylons that serve no advantage and a million disadvantages is not even close to the person who operates the vehicle in the first place, or the power plant that allows it to move at all.
A tank that has its treads blown out can still fight back. A mech that's shot on the knee is a tree going timber.
>A mech that's shot on the knee is a tree going timber.
And once it's down on the ground, it still has arms to crawl with and move forward, or roll sideways. Not so with the tank; which is a sitting duck.
>Because these are the only designs that make sense.
Always a terrible excuse for making a boring design. And besides, unless you're an autistic engineer that can't suspend their disbelief, eastern mech designs make sense too, as
>Eastern sensibilities care more about how cool something is rather than how plausible.
When it comes to the argument of what is "plausible." The Nip flying frickers with legs still win the argument. "Realistic" western mechs fundamentally do not work both in the argument of basic shit like square cube law, AND in the argument of combat viability.
Japanese mecha deliberately eschew the technological limitations of our present time, often aiming for a far flung future where machinery has reached such a peak that the engineering involved may as well be magic. If you COULD build a giant robot that could break the sound barrier and have all the agility of a superhuman despite its size, then it'd be a legitimate threat and viable in a combat situation.
Not in a million years will a Timber Wolf EVER be viable.
What a bizarre criticism. It doesn't really matter what it looks like, in-setting the high-tech space weapon one is probably perfectly repairable.
Also the left one isn't practical at all. Shoot it in the leg and it topples over because of how it's balanced. Practicality isn't what these are made in mind for, they're made for cool factor.
>try out Gunpla during the covid quarantines >oh this is kinda fun, I can make it pose and it's easier than I thought it would be >now have like 8 kits I need to work on later and looking into picking up paints
I went into gunpla because I thought about buying some warhammer minis and painting those and saw the prices. Are warhammerfriends ok? Are they really okay paying $80 for a single unit tank?
All these comments and no one posts
the objectively beat mecha design in videogames, combining easter and western sensibilities for maximum aesthetics.
this thing is actually really fricking stupid. look at all the unused space under the nose. could've mounted the gun there and it'd still have the exact same range of motion. that radar dish looking piece of shit? should've gon on top behind the head.
there, i just drastically minimized your hitbox without loosing any capability, whoever designed this is a moron.
>I've never played metal gear and I don't know anything about this design but allow me to make moronic comments.
The head has twin 30mm GAU-8's and REX has a 100 megawatt laser wiener, no need for a stupid gun mount on the chin to shit up the design. The radome is an intended design flaw, it's literally the only major weakness because Otacon knew REX would be unstoppable without one.
>AI is a ways off from being good enough to occupy contested land using drones all on it's own >just hook soldiers up at the base and send information between the drone body and the brain through the cloud >make some of those bodies yuge >???? >profit
If you're gonna make your mech tank shaped, what's the point of it being a mech and not jsut a big tank?
Now you've got the downsides of both in one package.
Yea I guess that's fair. What I meant to say is that atleast the slower moving ones are somewhat more believeable to me than mech which are moving and maneuvering around a battlefield like a fighter jet.
>"Mechs would never look like that! It's way too over designed and looks so lame. Here: have a rickety, rusted hunk of junk that spews smog whenever it exists! THAT is a cool design!'
soe does the 000b, along with 3E and 3M, that's where my money is.
there seems to be a third ballistic in the right arm anyway, so that's why i'm thinking it just might be none of them
Nah. Ammo can run out. A big ol hard club as a back up for when all that shits gone is still nice to have. That's why even though modern infantry gets a sidearm/small arms for close quarters they still have a knife.
>right, it's an attachment aka a bayonet
But it's not. dudes are literally taught to fight with the knife being "attached" to their hand. not a firearm.
What happens if these legged mechs flip over? Do they blast themselves up on their legs, or are they like turtles, trapped and seething until the battery runs out?
>What happens if these legged mechs flip over?
Japanese humanoid design has arms, so it can just right itself.
Western bucket on shuffling stilts is fricked.
>literally dies the very first time you see it fight
I wish fricking totoro was more of a shower. All that shit about them solo defending Russia only for them to die in the first fight scene with them was such a fricking waste. Same with Crimson Typhoon.
Yeah shit sucks. I feel compelled to make a unity assetflip game with them just to fulfill my urge to Cherno fight more Kaijus but I'm not too confident
>literally dies the very first time you see it fight
I wish fricking totoro was more of a shower. All that shit about them solo defending Russia only for them to die in the first fight scene with them was such a fricking waste. Same with Crimson Typhoon.
are the only reasons why I don't think the movie is a great as it could have been. I would love to see the mechs used in other stuff.
I liked the one from half life 2 and the one from titanfall 2. Actually, the tripod mechs (hunter and strider) in hl2 have some really good designs. Also, the coop bots in portal 2 are cool.
Just give it a head. Stop being pretentious and just give the mech a fricking head alright? You've instantly given it much more appeal by having a head.
because unlike japan who created the mech genre out of some form of post ww2 escapist about fantastical superweapons (that importantly, are not nukes for obv reasons), the west (specifcially america) actually won the second world war and maintained a military, meaning that the sort of nerdy weapons obsession that led the japanese to creating mech aesthetics actually had somewhere grounded to go to
There is no reason to waste time designing outlandish mech shit when your military is already making cool ass shit like helicopter transported air cavalry units, jet powered swept wing supersonic fighters, and frickoff massive intercontinental bombers
What's wrong with it? Personally I always wondered why some give their mechs human hands with rifles, when you could actually find better ways for universal attachments.
feels good to be an Armored Core god, I can build and play tanks, gundams, muh realistic chicken walkers with cannon arms, four-legged shit and whatever.
daily reminder that the only plausible legged tank in videogames is the gecko from motherfricking metal gear, which also gave us a dolphin anti-mech mech that uses fricking melee combat and the shagohod
it even addresses lactic acid buildup in a bio-mech, unlike mechwarrior and they stupid fricking synthmuscle
walking pillbox > cartoon shit
Hi, troony. Remember to dilate. You wouldn't want your filthy puss filled dick wound to close.
creative!
Obsessed
>Obsessed
I know right's from macross, what's left from?
some shitty american moba, it's the same as
Being a contrarian is not a personality.
that's a polish design
Rightfully German land.
>walking gas chamber
checks out
WTF
JIDF pls
RIGHTFULGERMANCLAY
based historylets
Germans will say they invented it anyway.
From a German game
It's there misguided attempt at making it look semi-plausible
>misguided
>ww1 mech being a room with legs
It's unironically kino
>there
>there
learn some english before you start writing, you fricking braindead 3rd worlder
ESLs never make this moronic mistake, it's always poorly educated mutts who only learned english phonetically
Eastern sensibilities care more about how cool something is rather than how plausible.
You know what the most plausible mecha design is? It's something that we already have: tanks.
Which is silly because mechs aren't plausible to begin with. Mecha detractors often deride eastern meches as being unrealistic when western mechs are just as unrealistic. The only difference is that one gives realism the middle finger and does what they want while the other chases after it in a misguided attempt to be taken seriously.
That's eastern vs western media in a nutshell really. Of course both have silly and serious stuff but on average western productions always fake themselves too seriously.
For example just compare Yakuza with Red Dead Redemption.
Tanks are Mecha you dumb frick.
If a tank is mecha then so is a fricking automobile you waste of carbon
>he doesn't use his car as a weapon
They are Mecha though? You're confusing Mecha with robotto.
Not him but you're absolutely fricking moronic. no one, not a single soul would call tanks "mecha" unless you deliberately pair them up side by side in giant robot land because some mechs do wear treads. You don't call World of Tanks something like World of Mecha do you? of course not, homosexual
A whole country calls tanks Mecha... The tanks and APCs in MGSV are referred to as Mecha. This argument at this point is purely semantic. Like how any animation is considered as anime in Japan, any MECHAnism is considered Mecha in Japan. So yes, Tanks, guns, automobiles and computers are Mecha.
You're mistaking Mecha for giant robots or robotto.
>A whole country calls tanks mecha
They don't.
>The tanks in MGSV are referred to as mecha
The tanks absolutely are fricking not. They might refer to D-walker or the Metal Gears this way, but this is because they walk on bipedal legs.
>Any mechanism is considered mecha in Japan, so tanks guns automobiles and computers are mecha
If you want to be a dumb mouthbreathing mongoloid with no conception of reality, do it on another board.
>They don't
They do. Just like how they call the Simpsons anime in Japan. They call all mechanisms Mecha in Japan.
>tanks are absolutely not
But in the beginning credits of each mission that has tanks always says they're the featured Mecha and then what model tank they are.
>mouthbreathing mongoloid
Japanese people are of the mongoloid race though?
>Just like how they call the Simpsons anime in Japan.
not him but i find that very hard to believe. anime and cartoons are so distinctly different. maybe you're just being cute an using it as a blanket term.
No, anime (and Mecha) are just more specific outside of Japan.
Outside of Japan, anime = Japanese cartoons. Inside of Japan, anime = cartoons.
Same with Mecha. In Japan it's just any MECHAnism. Like tanks an guns and cars and giant robots. There's a distinction though, between normal Mecha and giant robots. Giant robots are Robotto. But since foreigners know Mecha just from Gundam anime and stuff like that, they consider only robotto Mecha as Mecha.
You think a cylinder with ridiculous bug legs is plausible? That thing would incapable of balancing itself or having a decent range of movement. Meanwhile, the right image is just a bipedal human form is - guess what - realistic.
Tell me you don't have a STEM degree without telling me you don't have a STEM degree
Your puny mechaare no match for THE GREAT CENTIPEDE
Not tanks, helicopters.
>Eastern sensibilities care more about how cool something is rather than how plausible.
We have a moving gundam "statue" though. Can't say we have ones of western mechs.
You’re dumb as frick you idiot piece of shit
Barely even English, graduate before you post again. Following that make sure to lurk for 5 more years.
his post has correct grammar moron, it's just 2 sentences
also you got told hard, weeaboo mechshit sucks
If you saw two sentences in that post that has zero punctuation marks in it and called it grammatically correct then I'm sorry to say that the moron here is you.
Imagine complaining about grammar on this Mongolian Basket Weaving Forum. Blow your brains out, homosexual.
I'm not the one that brought grammar into it by saying "his post has correct grammar".
Shut up you semantic reddit homosexual, your original post complained about it barely being English. Now hurry up and have a nice day, don’t forget your parents will bury you under your birth name.
>he thinks that post was mine too
Well this is embarrassing. I didn't join your reply chain until after you made that grammar comment anon.
Anon that's literally not a statue. It's a tractor made by some Fins.
This looks very fun to operate
>cutting down trees is fun
..shit i think im compelled to agree but this is a slippery slope for the us and planet lmao
Pines are some of the fastest growing timber, 20-30 years for them to fully grow IIRC. So long as it's kept to plantations I don't see any real issue with it. Land clearing for other purposes is a whole other bag of worms.
Nobody cut regular forests in civilized countries anymore. It's all commercial forests.
It isnt armored yet but its out and after first trials by fire they will be armored.
This is a utility vehicle, firefighters would be better served by it.
>implausible weapon
>west still tries to make them as realistic as possible
They're just not at all plausible so you might as well go fricking bonkers with it.
Sometimes making something implausible as realistic is possible is the most bonkers thing to do, and also really fun.
Shin Godzilla portraying a realistic Godzilla scenario was fun, for example.
>Eastern sensibilities care more about how cool something is rather than how plausible.
When it comes to the argument of what is "plausible." The Nip flying frickers with legs still win the argument. "Realistic" western mechs fundamentally do not work both in the argument of basic shit like square cube law, AND in the argument of combat viability.
Japanese mecha deliberately eschew the technological limitations of our present time, often aiming for a far flung future where machinery has reached such a peak that the engineering involved may as well be magic. If you COULD build a giant robot that could break the sound barrier and have all the agility of a superhuman despite its size, then it'd be a legitimate threat and viable in a combat situation.
Not in a million years will a Timber Wolf EVER be viable.
God I love everything about Turn A's aesthetic.
Most eastern real robot style mecha also has the lower tier sensible western mechs too, usually reserved for grunts, specialist, non-military or smaller scale operations and the big humanoid mechs are the state of the art hyper advanced unit that usually get fielded in relatively small quantities.
I prefer these when it mislabels the countries.
Left is at least semi-believable.
There is no way in hell right is gonna work.
Left looks better.
The mech on the left is just beautiful. Look at that functional shape. Those simple yet pwoerful guns, the flexible legs. It's perfect, I'm cumming.
It's a shame this game sucked. It looks nice.
is it really that bad? it looked a bit like company of heroes which i still enjoy and was hoping for it to be a nice substitute
It's CoH that you hate to play
Not that anon, but I wouldn't say it was bad or sucked. I got a good 60 hours or so out of it. When I played it during release, it just had a lot of balance issues. Like the infantry felt entirely pointless and the population cap felt absurdly low (which contributed to infantry being useless because they took up a good chunk of the limited pop cap that could go to mechs). The game was also just too fricking slow in the beginning, felt like there was no way to really speed up resource gathering so the early game was always just a drag. Also can't remember which civ it was since it's been a while since I played it, but one of the three was just magnitudes better. It had a lot of good ideas, the setting was unique and cool, just had a lot to be desired that they honestly could have fixed by now with balance updates
last I played, which was last year, It felt exactly as you describe it with the early infantry game being ignored in favor of rushing to the mechs in order to gain the upper hand. But I'm not to sure on the comp side of things, only played three matches, and most of the players did the same. They really need major gameplay overhauls to some of these balance/systems like Coh2 did early after release.
It wasn't THAT bad, it just felt like a worse company of heroes. Honestly the mod that ports over a bunch of Iron Harvest stuff into Gates of Hell feels better
It's that but slower and with worse pathfinding. It was made with consoles in mind, by the way.
Game is a good reminder that the engine is the most important part of an RTS; everything is super floating and the pathfinding is god awful, like significantly worse than Brood War
Its actually a perfectly fine game, its just not nearly as good as it should have been, and as a result doesn't really make you want to stick with it for more then maybe the campaign and a couple of rounds with friends.
Waste of potential. The mechs were just tanks, they couldn't do anything that a tank in CoH couldn't have done.
It doesn't really suck, its mostly just kinda meh, and has little replay value outside of the campaigns which however, are fun.
Dieselpunk Titanfall 3 when?
Frick that. Give me Vietnam war era Titanfall.
>be 'namese soldier defending a moderately sized military camp
>start hearing Fortunate Sons which slowly gets louder and louder.
>panic.exe as other soldiers get on the AntiAir gun expecting an american air raid.
>but the helicopters are nowhere to be seen or heard, while the music is getting ever louder.
>Start to also hear thumping sounds
>Start seeing bird flocks flying up in the distance
>The music and the thumping sounds are getting loud.
>See trees getting casually pushed aside in the forest.
>See a 20m hulking machine emerging from the closely located treelines while Fortunate Sons is blasting from it.
KINO SETTING SPOTTED
That's Votoms Kummen arc, one for one.
You might like Gundam 8th MS Team. It follows the 8th MS team during their deployment in the jungles of SE Asia. Its been a while since I've seen it so idk how well plot holds up, but it has some of the best fights in any Gundam series.
its good but plot gets moronic like most gundams
man but some scenes are cool
I wish there was a more serious realistic mech show
obsolete is pretty good but first ep is the best one in my opinion
>mechs will never a be a practical or worthwhile military investment
how do we cope with this reality?
take the tank pill
tanks are literally obsolete and get memed on by infantry
>he doesnt know
theres a literally a war going on with an entire convoy of tanks getting dabbed on by ONE guy
Well in the Battletech/Mechwarrior universe one of the reason if not the biggest reason why the Clans lost their invasion was because of infantry.
They had completely forgotten the concept of fielding infantry, in all the wars they had between them it was always mechs vs mechs or tanks at most but infantry they had completely forgotten about it so they were unprepared in facing it.
Their ridiculously expensive and hard to repair mechs would get ambushed constantly by infantry shooting missiles into the leg joints or the gyro crippling them.
Also infantry was completely undetectable by mech sensors arrays so their mechs were completely blind to ambushes.
Because for whatever reason, russia has been sending its tanks in unsupported. If you look at any competent nations use of tanks, they are used as support for an attacking infantry force to destroy hard targets, not as a sole attacking force by themselves.
Saying tanks are obsolete is like saying helicopters or planes are obsolete because missiles exist. You can shoot down a modern jet with a shoulder mounted missile too if you catch it while its taking off. Its the infantries job to make sure there arent any enemies with shoulder mounted missiles near the airfield, not the jets.
Russian tanks are getting blown up left right and centre because the Russians are spectacularly shit at proper combined arms warfare. Their reconnaissance is awful, their infantry are basically useless, and everyone at every level is taught to fight with essentially WWII tactics for some unfathomable reason.
On top of understanding how to deploy and tanks properly (in theory anyway), the latest Western tank designs are starting to mount effective anti-missile defence systems which will only improve as time goes on.
>everyone at every level is taught to fight with essentially WWII tactics
have you read anything on this conflict besides /misc/?
/misc/ is overwhelmingly pro-Russia
*FSB and Wumao have lots of shills on /misc/. Serbian flags are the only legit pro-russians there other than commies themselvs
The Ghost of Kyiv returned???
Current war proves you are wrong
I hope you're not using russia/ukraine. russian tanks are literally getting memed on by drones and rpg deployed by the ukrainian infantry
Start investing into heavy Objects.
wasn't there a board game with something like this?
OGRE!
Ha booba
How do you replace the tracks on something like this?
aliens need to assert themselves and impose a law in which wars are decided by style points
power armor
What are some games with power armor?
The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Vanquish, Crysis and Metal Gear Revengeance.
EDF4.1 and EDF5
I bought 4.1 to play with some friends but we only played it for a couple of hours. Is 5 enough of an improvement to justify the purchase or should I just finish off 4.1 instead?
It's more of the same as 4.1, really. The games are definitely best enjoyed with friends and people. Might be better to wait until EDF6 comes out if your friends lost interest. The games are Gankercore so anons will make a bunch of lobbies and play them together when EDF6 comes.
Alright, I'll try to get a friend or two back into 4.1 and then play 6 when that's out. Thanks.
any warhammer 40k game with space marines in it
I guess Lost Planet could also be considered power armor. Although it's closer to a single-pilot tank.
>Capcom still hasn't removed GFWL from LP2 and added it back onto the Steam store
I know they farmed out LP3 to a western studio but did they fire all the devs in the process or something?
I think Capcom just plain doesn't care anymore. The game doesn't make any money anyway. It gives you a reasonable reason to play pirated games.
they integrated windows live so much into it they stated it would be like rebuilding the game from scratch to remove it. As they have attempted to already. What they did was managed to make a “fix” for it which if you dont mind installing a driver and logging into your windows account, allows you to still enjoy it with multiplayer and all.
one of the problems was they intended to release more updates, missions, G rank akrid like monster hunter. It all got shitcanned though which is upsetting cause that game was amazing.
I can't fricking cope bros... Why did western critiques unfairly malign this game when it came out? Why did Lost Planet have to die..?
I always want to play a Lost Planet game but then have to realize all Lost Planet games are bad
i don't think it counts if you sit in a wienerpit instead of wearing it to some degree, otherwise an AT would be power armor.
Man I wanna watch VOTOMS again but I think I've already watched all the good (cel) ones.
My favorite was mellowlink, I love the way that the protagonist being a rogue soldier amplified the feeling of how slow, heavy, and dangerous these things are.
>could also be considered power armor
Fricking really?
those VH suits are so fricking nice looking
Capcom redemption is only possible if they bring LP back
They cannot, never, they are subsisting now.
fallout 4 also best and thinking white mans fallout
Halo, technically.
Not technically, definitely is power armor
The games make the player pretty lightweight for comedic effect but those suits and operators weigh several tons and the suit will twist and snap the limbs off of anyone not drugged up, fit enough and biologically enhanced to wear them
Likewise I’m pretty sure the alien power armors are mostly the same in philosophy except they’re already strong enough to wear them more like vests than actual power armor
games?
Any Kamen rider game
Any game you play a whiteman
Saints Row 4
>no one has said metroid yet
ATOM RPG Trudograd
Mechassault 2 had a cool powerarmor and obviously the mechs
*battle armor
>WWI tank propelled by giant exposed fleshy bits
Oh boy, I sure hope nobody fires any artillery vaguely near them.
Tanks don't get stuck in trenches.
Anti tank trenches are a thing, you know.
https://tankmuseum.org/article/trapped_story_of_fray_bentos
>Mage Academy tanks
There was a (probably scripted) SyFy reality show where they had poorly made robots fight each other. Maybe we'll get something like this but much more advanced and exciting to watch in the future
Do thou has the original "domo" cat picture?
They'll always be terrible for mass production, but for "elite" forces they could be very useful. Which to be fair is hot most giant robot universes work to begin with.
IIRC the joints end up being pretty fragile so it’s easier to simply make a shit ton of tanks instead of a 10 meter robot.
We gonna have to wait for space wars
I mean it could work in the civilian sector for industry idk man
Frick off, people thought tanks will never be practical but here we are, we just need another world war to kickstart weapon research again.
BELIEVE homosexualS IT'S GONNA HAPPEN
This isn’t true. Look at how much BigDog has advanced and the bipedal robots darpa also made. Bigger versions with guns are a 100% certainty. Just a matter of when.
Wouldn't they take forever to make and cost even more since they're so big?
Look at what they are working on now. https://youtu.be/nBy1piJrq1A
Doesn’t seem expensive. Imagine little cheap spider bots like this with tiny guns guns.
I bet a bigger version of this wouldn’t be too costly. Look at the new police robot dogs they have. Not very expensive either. Google says around 70k. Attach a gun to it and some AI and you have a dog sized mech. Upscale the b***h for a recoiled rifle or 50 cal sniper and you got yourself a real mech. High armor would be the real problem but having armies of cheap ai driven walking robots would be cheaper than an army of crewed tanks I bet.
Well I was mostly talking about big pilotable robots, something that would withstand missiles
Maybe when the first Mars war occurs and there’s less gravity so the joints can handle heavy armor.
They still need to find a way to miniaturize a fusion reactor that can fit into one of these with enough shielding to protect from radiation
Reason why its so slow was because they had to use pneumatic actuators instead of electric motors
once we become a T2 civilization we'll have the ability to just build mechs for the hell of it
mech battles may be the future super-sport
>mech battles may be the future super-sport
It's already a sport now. Just less big stompy things and more remote control roombas with knives on their heads.
>mech battles may be the future super-sport
Battlebots has been gaining more traction in recent years, but it's on a much smaller scale
I'd recommend Battlebots to anyone who likes this sort of shit, it's a great show
I hope they go back to the old arena design this year, really didn't like what they did to it last year with the upper deck and corners.
The whole idea of games like Phantom Crash
>mfw the future super-sport will be competitive bug eating instead
My cope is easy 🙂
You're a walking talking mech
there's nothing wrong with scaling you up so you're bigger stronger and can be shot and not die
treads are actually garbage and tanks are blind
I wouldn't say never.
There is a narrow range of circumstances where legged vehicle would have an advantage, like a mountain gun.
Equation changes drastically if we include other planets. Mars would be mech heaven because it is absurdly rocky and has significantly less gravity.
What would never happen would be bipedal mechs, because bipedalism is a consequence of evolutionary limitations rather than physics.
Giant mechs no. But mech suits and powered armor will definitely become a thing.
No they won't. Anyone in the military will tell you that they buy from the lowest bidder aka "military-grade" mean cheap, usually inferior equipment compared to their civilian versions (boots) to give to everyone else. The US is one of the richest countries and spends the most on their military and they still don't want to replace their m4 and m16s because it's just cheaper to arm the average grunt with it over anything else.
>musk and gaben are already working on chips they can put in your brain to control computers
>the most natural thing to link a human up to would be something human shaped
>heavily armored heavy weapon platforms with the dexterity and fine motor skills of a human
I could maybe see something like the MTs in Armored Core, which were originally made for heavy lifting tasks, maybe one day in the far FAR off future existing. But we will very likely never see something like an actual Armored Core or Gundam Mobile Suit like in pic related.
Drones are mechs.
>gunpowder is not practical
>tanks are not practical
>airplanes are not practical
>lasers are not practical
>drones are not practical
>mechas are not practical <--- you are here
>battle spacecrafts are not practical
I like both
>t. fruit
Iron Harvest is top kino.
>Japan DLC for Iron Harvest never ever
Western artists don't have the mech fetishism that Japs do so they usually try to make something that's semi-plausible as a real-life machine instead of a bunch of cool-looking metal triangles vaguely in the shape of a human holding a laser sword or a giant gun
>semi plausible
gay. either go full cool or don't
>I like the Fallout power armor design. The old style is much cooler.
Fricking Japs and their gundams will never understand true western mecha design
But Maschinen Krieger was made by a jap
That's the joke
Silly me.
oysters have fricking EYES???
It's a seashell crab.
isn't that a snail
Yep, to be more specific; Conch Snails.
Their eyesight is pretty good compared to other mollusks.
They will stare at you while you sleep!
I miss when companies made these little models to take pics of for their games.
I'm making a MaK inspired game. Really want to make a model of my main character once I've finalized the design. It'd be super fun to use my own model as the cover art or whatever
pffffft, a gundam would poke that stupid thing and it would fall over, frick off
>implying sticking pointy bits to a humanoid frame is good design
Left mogs right so hard it's not even funny.
For me, it's the crab
Uller for me.
It’s so good, they call it the Awesome. That’s all you need to know.
For me it's anything as long as it's an omnimech so i can slap as many machineguns as physically possible to it.
You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like
Amougus Drip
Giant Enemy Trash Can
Hop in the mech.
fricking love Solatorobo
>External trigger button on a weapon fixed to an arm
That's moronic.
>Germany
>West
????
This. They're obviously Asiatics more akin to Indonesians than Europeans.
Western styled mechs are supposed to be advanced tanks. But they're stupid if that's what they're for, as I'm sure a million autists will gladly explain why.
Jap styled mechs are more like advanced fighter jets that can also operate on land when needed. Their main aspect is having significantly more mobility and speed than even the fastest of tanks.
That said something like the Think Tank or Tachikomas from GitS is the most "realistic", combining the advantages of a tank (low profile, can "crouch" even lower, high speed), with the advantages of a mech, (can pass otherwise impassable for a tracked vehicle terrain, can move laterally, and the smaller Tachikomas can not only stick to walls like spiders but also jump, and stupidly well at that.)
Their cyberwarfare suite and invisibility tech are both irrelevant for the comparison since both can seemingly be put on any chassis.
I prefer mechs that looks like vehicles. Humanoid mechs modeled after tokusatsu people in suits is lamer.
Right looks moronic and there is no way most people would genuinely believe it's better than left.
Shut the frick up, Hans.
Right does this.
I pick right.
4/4A is fricking stupid and I love it
>4/4A is fricking stupid and I love it
this but unironically
what game?
Looks like Armored Core 4 to me
right also sounds like this:
kota hoshino is underrated as frick
Man, FA is a better game, but 4's OST was so much better.
because mechs are gay
Frick Japanese mech design is so obnoxious to look at
Right was overdesign
I liked this game.
I wanted to get my favorite streamer to play that but he's taking a mental health break
giving mechanical legs to boilers and helicopters isn't very interesting
this
walking is the worst form of transportation
What about dragging, like slugs do?
energy conservative so its ok i guess
Dunno man. If walking were as bad as you're claiming it then why are we all walking instead of being back in the waters swimming.
because youd drown, moron
I'm saying the thing that crawled out of the primordial ooze that eventually turned into us didn't in it's evolutionary path ever seem to think that walking is "the worst form of transportation".
The advantage to being bipedal is that it gives a better platform for throwing shit, and that it allows relatively energy efficient movement over long distances. It's hard to call it "bad" or "good" as a comparison, it's suited to humans for what their evolutionary advantages were but comes with significant drawbacks in other areas; namely, it's hard to support from a skeletal standpoint, it's not particularly good for swimming or climbing, and it's much harder to balance, which also leads to the need for a more complex brain.
thats not how evolution works bro...
You do realize that the ancestor of Dolphins and Whales thought to himself "Walking sucks, my feet fricking hurt, I'm going back", right?
It says right in your 10 year old bait image that the one on the left is from a setting in 1920
What's up with eastern mechs and giant crotches? Is this like a freudean thing?
They take the term wienerpit very literally.
>we could've had Robotjox 2 but instead we got paciffic rimjob
Frick this gay earth.
>Robot Wars
>Crash and Burn
What's the problem?
Japanese mechs are physically impossible even if we advanced power efficiency technology by 10 times.
We would need to discover anti-gravity to create the stabilizers needed for such a humanoid design, on top of the whole energy efficiency needs to be very advanced.
there is a reason why most Gundam anime take place in space
there's no reason for it
The reason is because it's cool
I like left
>japan me
Overdesigned garbage.
Left is way better.
Good jap'nese mech designs are only found in Eva, Cyberbots, and Metal Gear
When was the last time Capcom did a mecha game, anyway?
asiatic designs are fricking trash.
OP is a moron that doesn't know about Battle tech
mechs that maintain roughly the same proportions of a human or lean very humanoid are the worst
Left is a armed and armoured fighting machine designed to fit the aesthetics of 1920/30s diesel technology.
The right is a mech designed to look like a mech. It's drawn that way for the same reason Westerners give all superheroes skintight jumpsuits.
>It's drawn that way for the same reason Westerners give all superheroes skintight jumpsuits
But superheroes all have skintight outfits because naked form with splotches of color in it is easy as frick to draw repeatedly over the course of numerous pages. Can't say the same for jaggy edges japanese mechs.
Originally, but now Superhero comics don't have a reason for anything that happens in them beyond "well, it's a superhero comic so it HAS to be this way." It's a completely self referential genre that parasites its own clichés.
Tankgays get the boot.
I like the Evangelion justification for humanoid mechs in that they aren't inorganic and are in actuality giant cyborgs more or less.
>what is megas?
>what is iron giant
>what is gyspy danger?
The US can do mecha just fine when it wants to, the problem is there's so much bureaucracy in the creative process these days that a lot of it gets watered down to pander to braindead normalhomosexuals instead of just making it for people who enjoy mecha.
megas is a comedy series, pacific rim is quite literally a love letter to mech and kaiju movies. Iron Giant is the only one that is a bonafide western mech.
Man now I want 50s retro-futuristic mechs.
We had one 20 years ago but we let it die.
Megas is super robot but Americanized. You can have a mecha series that doesn't take itself seriously. It's also a love letter to mecha in general.
Transformers?
also bonafide western mech
Transformers was originally japanese, then burgers got the rights and made their own bastardized version then nips tried to copy the success and make their own version of the burger version. That got shut down, then nips made what was basically NOT! transformers and that actually got pretty big.
God damn it; I love Gaogaigar. It's literally the so-stupid-it's-awesome principle, given form.
What's a cool mech supposed to be then? And let's not pretend that Japan doesn't also do non-humanoid mechs better (Just look at anything Shinkawa Yoji or Masamune Shirow does)
>And let's not pretend that Japan doesn't also do non-humanoid mechs better (Just look at anything Shinkawa Yoji or Masamune Shirow does)
This. Hell, Japan mogs the west so hard Mechwarrior literally stole shit from Macross.
Poland isn't West.
It's like, worse version of the West because they try to imitate Western mentality, which looks pathetic.
Even SEABlack folk have more soul than poles.
The real choice is chunky Jap mechs.
I accept your consneedsion
Wrong, you lost the argument. Just google why you're wrong and I'm right, dumdum.
based burgershart too moronic to use a search engine
>muh mutts
A mind as rotten as yours is probably what those Black folk deserve as far as rentless nesting places go.
Which "RTS" in my library has the best single player campaign?
Darwinia.
Dawn of War Dark Crusade is easily the best.
Dark Crusade’s single player fricking sucks. Most of the maps are totally empty and once you’ve done the strongholds you’ve seen everything.
I'm trying to play games on my backlog that I already own, not add to it.
aight well play dow 2 since you own it
dawn of war 2 is great if not an rts, if not that get star craft wing of liberty
out of that list probably homeworld followed by choose your own story in ck2
Revenge of the Titans and Darwinia
Oh man do we have to have another discussion about the "alleged" "theft" that MechWarrior committed?
What's alleged about it anon? Macross came out 2 years before Battletech.
Shit like the phoenix hawk is literally "hey bro lemme copy your homework "okay bro but just change it a lil so it's not obvious".
I beat Mechwarrior 5 just yesterday, it was my first Mechwarrior game and I had a pretty good time with it
The only things I didn't like were
>the economy balanced around salvage and recouping repair costs makes getting tangible progress too slow
>mech customization is too limited
Should I check out the other games in the franchise as well?
Yes
If you gays hate sleek forms and legs so much just slap shit onto a mech until it becomes a space cruiser/mobile gun platform + radome array + huge acceleration
forgot image
Didn't Iron (wo)Man steal that shit at one point?
Check out my fabulous wings b***h.
>Don't talk to me or my Buster sons ever again
Wing Zero is fricking fab indeed.
Love it.
WZCustom is gayass shit. TV WZ is an actual weapon of mass death.
>posting arguably the worst design from AC4A
At least post a good one
Man white glints sexy as frick. I need to get my hands on a good model of it someday.
I always envisioned a scenario where every mech design has a place in a multi branch effort against Italy
Japanese mecha, humanoid brawlers and swordsmen, American mecha, slow and lumbering but capable of storing a comically large amount of artillery and firepower, whatever that design is in the OP, etc
Finally someone who knows what they're talking about
never gets old
Turn A was designed by Syd Mead though
Anon, that image is bait as old as time and you just fell for it.
>falling for bait older than you
anon...
lemme counter and say that the final design was refined by Atsushi Shigeta
I will say you are missing the point and also are a moron.
nah
What are all the mechs in this? I only recognize Turn A and VOTOMS
I don't remember all of them as well but the one to Turn A's top right is Symbionic Titan, to the bottom right of Turn A is the combaticon combiner Bruticus.
Top left is a Transformer, top right is from Armored Core I think
On the 'western mech' side top left is a Wanzer from Front Mission and I believe that bottom left is Metal Gear D.
not sure about the rest of the left side but right side is:
>Frost Wanzer from Front Mission
>Armored Trooper from Armored Trooper VOTOMS
>HOUND from Chromehounds
>Metal Gear D from Metal Gear 2
>Fifth Generation Armored Core from Armored Core V
>Front Mission
>Chromehounds
>Metal Gear
>western
WTF KIND OF MORON MADE THIS IMAGE?
Someone who manages to bait (You)s even in this day.
Wasn't Turn-A Gundam designed by a Westerner? I mean, I know it's a troll image, but come on.
Anon, look real hard at that image. Like real hard, and understand the level of trolling that initially flew over your head.
I literally only knew Turn-A, but I did think some on the right looked Japanese.
>the perfect middle ground
>Anon still bites it
The amount of whooshes this still manages to bait, omg...
>this shows that they can do G1 this good
>they chose to do the typical shitty teenage story but with transformers arround it
I hate this fricking gay earth.....
>Transformers
>west
Transformers started as a few Japanese toy lines, mostly Diaclone, licensed by Hasbro to use their toy molds to sell in the US. All of that shit came from superior nippon folded 10000x strong mecha designs.
And? The cgi models in the live action movies are made by americans. Same with the ironman shit
>He's never heard of Kiss Players
relevance?
I wish there was more diesel mecha vidya out there
Remember Robot Jox?
*destroys your dumb mecha*
>whataboutism the image
>not sure if its shitpost or actual butthurt mechgay
It's a tankgay related shitpost, hence the bottom right line.
>hence the bottom right line.
But that line made me think it was mechgay most
but this would only make sense if mecha were used as BVR and didn't tank fire constantly in every single piece of mech media ever
*mogs on mechs*
You tell me.
Arr rook same
fricking christ the west really can't design mecha anymore can they
Good, you came. How obedient of you. Fell the Cradles. All of them. Millions will die. Exciting, don't you think?
left looks better
Right one has more stealth at night compared to right one
One prefers semi-practical design, the other prefers style over practicality. Both are cool for their own reasons.
Yeah but this is Ganker so shut the frick up and take a side in this pointless argument.
How does one have sex with a mech?
>comparing something from a Dieselpunk setting to some sci fi shit
I know this is bait but it's still fricking got me just for how utterly fricking moronic the comparison is
One is basically a plane shaped like a person, the others a crab tank.
I don't think one is really comparable to the other.
Why don't we have more Dieselpunk Vidya? I prefer it over Cyberpunk tbh.
Dieselpunk is already a very niche setting and dieselpunk mecha is a niche within a niche
every person that I showed the iron harvest artbook to, thought it looked badass.
yeah it's really cool artwork
shame the game was mediocre
they should have made it a classic RTS with resource gathering
gathering oil and iron would have been badass as frick in a dieselpunk setting
instead of fricking gay cap zones
I don't even want dieselpunk mecha, I just want something dieselpunk.
Western style mechs are just glorified tanks, a product of the West's aggressive militarism and desire for globalist expansion.
The East's mechs are designed with storytelling in mind. They represent an idealized version of what the pilot wants to be, and serve as an impenetrable armour that protects the pilots vulnerabilities, both in a physical and emotional sense.
Where'd you pull that gay shit from, Tumblr?
>Western style mechs are just glorified tanks
Frick you, tanks are cool. There is no greater team than a tank crew working in tandem to anihilate the enemy with their lives on the line.
>western mechs take all of the speculative engineering and dramatic intrigue inherent to the tank/boat crew story framing device and go even further into sci-fi with it
>eastern mechs are just tokushit characters with uglier weapons and no sick high-flying acrobatics
>and no sick high-flying acrobatics
Theres an entire anime franchise dedicated to high-flying acrobatics tho anon.
>Western style mechs are just glorified tanks
Because these are the only designs that make sense.
>Something something pilot wants to be inside, power of friendship, great big blah
Jesus christ dude, go outside. This is not, and never has been compelling and its one of the worst parts of eastern mecha anime.
While we're on the subject, don't you have your own containment board?
>Because these are the only designs that make sense.
No it doesn't. You're literally increasing the visibility of the vehicle and giving it massive weakpoints that will make it useless if they're hit.
All vehicles have massive weakpoints that will make it useless if they're hit, dude. They're the squishy bits that drive the vehicle, the combustible fuel/battery/power source that drives the vehicle, and the joints that allow the vehicle to walk, among others.
Disregarding this is prime delusion of the first order. Magical metal that allows things that shouldn't be able to walk a short distance to fly around and somehow protect their pilots from high powered cannons is a total fantasy, and it always will be.
>Boring design
Designs that might actually work are more interesting than baby's first design bullshit. Simple as.
>designs that MIGHT work vs designs that have zero reason not to work
>Any eastern mecha
>Cannot walk
>Cannot fly
>Not even really reasonable to build
>If we had a power source capable of powering them, it would be so heavy that it would prevent the vehicle from moving
>If we had armor capable of protecting them, it would be so heavy that it would prevent the vehicle from moving
There's actually a reason we use tanks, you dumb mong. Stretching out the massive, frickhuge weight of a combat vehicle along a lot of surface area is what allows them to move. Without treads, the whole thing falls apart. You can't carry armor, you can't carry weapons - do you think your average car would even move with 12 tons of armor plate and a 155mm howitzer on top?
Again, see
You're limiting these mechs, both of eastern and western design, to modern time problems when they're often set in ridiculously unspecified times in the future. You're suspending disbelief on western mechs having power sources that can run them in perpetuity but the idea of metamaterials that blow your mind in the same way that chromium would blow the mind of a caveman is apparently too far.
Grug not suspend disbelief
>Common arguments in favor of western mechs are that they're "SO REALISTIC OMG"
>Apply realism to them and point out how they wouldn't fricking work in any capacity
>NOOOOO SEE IF I NITPICK VEHICLES THAT DO WORK AND ARE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE, I CAN JUST IGNORE SQUARE CUBE LAW
If you're gonna ignore the laws of physics, you're already in the same camp as Japanese giant robots. You're a clown in everything but appearence.
>apply realism
>to things you literally cannot apply realism to by the nature and lore of those materials
Damn anon. I didn't know you studied the tensile strength of a cord made out of Luna titanium, a thing that totally exists in real life and therefore can be quantified.
So you admit mechs of any kind aren't even close to realistic?
So why the frick even bother with the versions that try to desperately pretend they could happen in real life? It's like looking at a dragon and arguing that can't exist because it has six limbs instead of four like typical lizards, so you make a new version that just has four legs. So now you've got a giant komodo dragon which captures none of the spectacle of an actual dragon, it's just a giant fricking lizard.
>So why the frick even bother with the versions that try to desperately pretend they could happen in real life?
Ask tankgays. Most of the time the ones that go "hurr it can totally work in real life" are the ones that favor mechs that handle like reskinned tanks.
>he doesn't know
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flight_of_Dragons_(book)
>All vehicles have massive weakpoints that will make it useless if they're hit, dude. They're the squishy bits that drive the vehicle, the combustible fuel/battery/power source that drives the vehicle, and the joints that allow the vehicle to walk, among others.
This is peak fricking cope. Two giant pylons that serve no advantage and a million disadvantages is not even close to the person who operates the vehicle in the first place, or the power plant that allows it to move at all.
A tank that has its treads blown out can still fight back. A mech that's shot on the knee is a tree going timber.
>A mech that's shot on the knee is a tree going timber.
And once it's down on the ground, it still has arms to crawl with and move forward, or roll sideways. Not so with the tank; which is a sitting duck.
>Because these are the only designs that make sense.
Always a terrible excuse for making a boring design. And besides, unless you're an autistic engineer that can't suspend their disbelief, eastern mech designs make sense too, as
says.
I always felt the arm slaves and the titans from titanfall hit the right balance of practicality and style
the MC from fullmetal panic was autistic as frick
Which reminds me; did SRW actually ever manage to piece together a three-way "..." dialogue exchange between Sousuke; Heero; and Rei?
Both are shit, but for different reasons
Mechs are gay
S O U L
>the only game that let you play as a dreadnought was Space Marine
>but only in multiplayer
>and only in a game mode nobody played
pain
i still surf!
That's just that one MMX enemy but with arms. The one that shoots lighting and missiles at you.
ENTER
transformers
Both shit but left is much better shit than right
Left
>practical design that's also easy to repair
Right
>moronic clunky shit that'll topple over with tons of overengineered shit that's barely repairable
>Left
design
What a bizarre criticism. It doesn't really matter what it looks like, in-setting the high-tech space weapon one is probably perfectly repairable.
Also the left one isn't practical at all. Shoot it in the leg and it topples over because of how it's balanced. Practicality isn't what these are made in mind for, they're made for cool factor.
>try out Gunpla during the covid quarantines
>oh this is kinda fun, I can make it pose and it's easier than I thought it would be
>now have like 8 kits I need to work on later and looking into picking up paints
I went into gunpla because I thought about buying some warhammer minis and painting those and saw the prices. Are warhammerfriends ok? Are they really okay paying $80 for a single unit tank?
>Mecha
} :[
>Mecha, Japan
(: 0)
I love the Straznik design
I printed one for myself
Woah, got more?
Nice. Where are the Pacific Rim files from?
Might try print it at Gundam scale for a gag
Battletech is just plagiarized Japanese mechs
So?
>you can't just buy the license for these designs in good conscience to use in your game
>that's ILLEGAL
How much is Harmony Gold paying you anon? Be honest.
Mechwarriorbros, we were Japanese mecha all along?
Battletech is just plagiarized Macross designs
Destroid Monster is the sexiest Macross mech
FASA legally purchased the Macross mechs. It's not plagiarized.
That mini-mad is adorable
>bin that knife
West is more realistic, right is a fricking joke that can only be liked by trannies.
>requires specialized launching warships
>F-16
whoever made this image should die
Woah friend here, before the Jannies see those breasts.
That looks much better than I thought considering how it seems to have been made on an FDM printer.
Thin your goddamn paints
>western realistic mechs
tanks with legs
>jap realistic mechs
fighter jets with legs
>jap fantasy mechs
dude but bigger
yawn
>western realistic mechs
>tanks with legs
if that western mech had tracks instead of legs it would look like a metal slug sprite in 3D
All these comments and no one posts
the objectively beat mecha design in videogames, combining easter and western sensibilities for maximum aesthetics.
I just see eastern sensibilities and aesthetics in this
this thing is actually really fricking stupid. look at all the unused space under the nose. could've mounted the gun there and it'd still have the exact same range of motion. that radar dish looking piece of shit? should've gon on top behind the head.
there, i just drastically minimized your hitbox without loosing any capability, whoever designed this is a moron.
>I've never played metal gear and I don't know anything about this design but allow me to make moronic comments.
The head has twin 30mm GAU-8's and REX has a 100 megawatt laser wiener, no need for a stupid gun mount on the chin to shit up the design. The radome is an intended design flaw, it's literally the only major weakness because Otacon knew REX would be unstoppable without one.
But left actually looks like a mech and right is just a silly armor.
>AI is a ways off from being good enough to occupy contested land using drones all on it's own
>just hook soldiers up at the base and send information between the drone body and the brain through the cloud
>make some of those bodies yuge
>????
>profit
Both are great designs. They're just for completely different settings and tones; one's steampunk and the other is futuristic.
>Both are great designs.
shut the frick up weeb
Anime website.
zakubros..
If you're gonna make your mech tank shaped, what's the point of it being a mech and not jsut a big tank?
Now you've got the downsides of both in one package.
>left: unusual yet neat design
>right: generic anime mecha number 9001
Why can't the East into originality?
Cause nu-western artists are soulless
>comparing Dieselpunk to futuristic mechs
It's okay when the aliens do it
idk how much people knew about mars in late 19th century, but on irl mars mechs would be pretty good (obiously not wierd striders)
I'd rather have slow, hulking mechs over those impractical, physics defying ones any day.
>I'd rather impractical, physics defying mechs over those impractical, physics defying ones any day.
Yea I guess that's fair. What I meant to say is that atleast the slower moving ones are somewhat more believeable to me than mech which are moving and maneuvering around a battlefield like a fighter jet.
If you can't see the appeal of both then check for covid because one of the symptoms is having no sense of taste
>not as fast as tanks
>bigger profile than tanks
>either it's clunky as all hell or it's psssh nothing personal kid.
Why are tanks so uncool compared to mechs in media?
The closest weve gotten to a whacky mecha-esque tank anime is Heavy Object.
I liked heavy object. I want a game around it i possible.
I can only see mechs in SPA role
It sometimes feels like overcorrecting.
>"Mechs would never look like that! It's way too over designed and looks so lame. Here: have a rickety, rusted hunk of junk that spews smog whenever it exists! THAT is a cool design!'
>left: machine
>right: cosplayer
weebs are just butthurt their tinfoil ninjas can be emulated by a gay in a suit, as opposed to real big stompy robots
what?
>001
Anon, please, I already jerked off tonight
Is that the KGC-007?
looks closest to the 000b, but maybe someone jsut felt like being extra custom
It looks like that it has four rotary autocannons, and the KGC-007 is the only variant that has them.
i'm just going by hardpoints
the 001 has 4 ballistic hardpoints
soe does the 000b, along with 3E and 3M, that's where my money is.
there seems to be a third ballistic in the right arm anyway, so that's why i'm thinking it just might be none of them
The sad thing is I've seen more effort put into writing japanese mechs to be realistic than that pod on 4 legs
West does some cool mechs when they try
>me walking tank
>me use big giant stick even when me use laser beams and pew pew missles
>unga bunga
the gayest shit of all time.
Nah. Ammo can run out. A big ol hard club as a back up for when all that shits gone is still nice to have. That's why even though modern infantry gets a sidearm/small arms for close quarters they still have a knife.
>they still have a knife.
right, it's an attachment aka a bayonet. not a god damn club you bring with you like a shit bag.
>right, it's an attachment aka a bayonet
But it's not. dudes are literally taught to fight with the knife being "attached" to their hand. not a firearm.
and? you could teach an entire army kung fu but is that shit viable in the battlefield? highly circumstantial. same thing with a knife.
gay as frick
They probably got inspiration from Gundam for the sword thing.
MechsxTanks!
What happens if these legged mechs flip over? Do they blast themselves up on their legs, or are they like turtles, trapped and seething until the battery runs out?
is this the same girl as picrel?
I dunno why but seeing girls do this shit gives me a raging boner
>What happens if these legged mechs flip over?
Japanese humanoid design has arms, so it can just right itself.
Western bucket on shuffling stilts is fricked.
Left : soul
Right : soulless
the only good western mech
Jaegers were mad cool too
Walking nuclear reaktor and it fricking rocks. Cherno was a kickass Jaeger.
>literally dies the very first time you see it fight
I wish fricking totoro was more of a shower. All that shit about them solo defending Russia only for them to die in the first fight scene with them was such a fricking waste. Same with Crimson Typhoon.
Yeah shit sucks. I feel compelled to make a unity assetflip game with them just to fulfill my urge to Cherno fight more Kaijus but I'm not too confident
Quite liked Gipsy Danger
Pacific Rim would be a masterpiece, if it wasn't for the acting and dialogues being below Sonic fanfiction tier.
This and
are the only reasons why I don't think the movie is a great as it could have been. I would love to see the mechs used in other stuff.
I liked the one from half life 2 and the one from titanfall 2. Actually, the tripod mechs (hunter and strider) in hl2 have some really good designs. Also, the coop bots in portal 2 are cool.
mech are fricking cool but how would they ever be viable when you can just shoot their legs off then its over.
What if the legs have guns too?
Just give it a head. Stop being pretentious and just give the mech a fricking head alright? You've instantly given it much more appeal by having a head.
For me it's the monoeye
Monoeye is my favorite mecha fetish.
because unlike japan who created the mech genre out of some form of post ww2 escapist about fantastical superweapons (that importantly, are not nukes for obv reasons), the west (specifcially america) actually won the second world war and maintained a military, meaning that the sort of nerdy weapons obsession that led the japanese to creating mech aesthetics actually had somewhere grounded to go to
There is no reason to waste time designing outlandish mech shit when your military is already making cool ass shit like helicopter transported air cavalry units, jet powered swept wing supersonic fighters, and frickoff massive intercontinental bombers
>japanese mech
>can't fly without mounting single use thrusters on the back first.
>its a literal humanoid tank
Left is way better that this generic humanoid shit on right
I honestly like the left one more.
>HURRR ROBOT BUT ITS BIG HUMAN!!!!
jap mecha is stupid and creatively bankrupt
japs never made a good mech game
Alex Iglesia’s artstyle and it’s influence has been a disaster for modern western mech art.
soul soulless
wow gross
What's wrong with it? Personally I always wondered why some give their mechs human hands with rifles, when you could actually find better ways for universal attachments.
I dont wanna type a long post pointing everything out but it bad it lazy
Left looks cooler.
This is what Ganker thinks is a good looking robot/mech. Fricking moronic shit. Look at this little spine supporting 100 tons
the right one looks moronic, similar with oversized swords, japs are subhuman and only thing worse is weebs who adore them
feels good to be an Armored Core god, I can build and play tanks, gundams, muh realistic chicken walkers with cannon arms, four-legged shit and whatever.
tanks/planes > spider tanks > other western style mechs > power armor > shit > anime humanoid mechs
Syd Mead designed mechs too
What if it has a neural rod that's parked up your ass that lets you telepathically control your mech and justifying the legs?
Depends on how thick it is?
>soul vs soulless
I'm still seething that one dev cancelled himself like a fricking moron monkey and now we have to wait so long for Brigador Killers
Didn't he just rejoin on the sly later?
Either way disturbing lack of Brigador here.
Left is cooler looking.
Jap shit is just dumb
Iron Harvest mechs ooze with soul tho.
daily reminder that the only plausible legged tank in videogames is the gecko from motherfricking metal gear, which also gave us a dolphin anti-mech mech that uses fricking melee combat and the shagohod
it even addresses lactic acid buildup in a bio-mech, unlike mechwarrior and they stupid fricking synthmuscle
Should I try armored core 3? I only played masters of the arena when i was a kid and loved it.
Sure, why not. Nexus and Last Raven are generally considered the best in that continuity iirc.
>And on the eighth day, the Lord gave unto Sam a mech, and it was good
Tankhomosexuals hate this little thing, learn how to take out any moron in a tank with this simple $70k tool.