Why did a Japanese developer make a beat-em-up game based on the English-language edited dub of Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger?
Why did a Japanese developer make a beat-em-up game based on the English-language edited dub of Kyry Sentai Zyuranger?
Why did a Japanese developer make a beat-em-up game based on the English-language edited dub of Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger?
Why not?
Probably because they were paid to.
Saban probably commissioned it. Also, Japan did indeed have a release of the US's Power Rangers.
I wonder if they were subbed or dubbed? Because if they were dubbed, I'm sure Japanese Bulk and Skull were great.
SPD had a Japanese dub that was voice acted by the original Sentai team Dekaranger.
I would never watch it all the way through but as a pure novelty that's so fricking cool.
Honestly watching a Japanese dub of PR would probably help me watch it more.
The major plot shifts are awesome. I can only stomach those.
>Green with Evil
All five parts are legit. Especially the first morph into action. Aged well.
I've just never gelled with the Saved by the Bell meets random Japanese fight footage thing it had going, even as a kid.
I got into actual hero toku like 8 years ago and I've enjoyed it ever since.
>I've just never gelled with the Saved by the Bell meets random Japanese fight footage thing it had going, even as a kid
How old were you by then? Because it was never jarring to me, that's just how TV was and I had no clue it was Japanese. And later on I didn't even know Pokemon was Japanese either
>and later on I didn't even know Pokemon was Japanese either
okay, so you were weirdly sheltered, but where's the appeal for people who actually go outside?
as a kid I clearly noticed something was off when the setting was in school and then went into fighting, like the quality was different/off. Thankfully I had a friend in elementary school that was japanese and brought in a Zyuranger VHS to show us to prove that MMPR was based on a JP show.
For me everything worked well, but when I got to see Zyuranger with english subs and different plot points, it all changed for me. I couldn't accept the 'babying' of the situations as opposed to "whoa, all these kids are getting hurt."
Also how would one explain the episode (the very first one?) where there were literal japanese kids in a space shuttle with almost no context?
I don't take Super Sentai any more seriously than Power Rangers because it still all boils down to spandex teens beating on styrofoam monsters. To me, the appeal is seeing how so much of Power Rangers is shaped by recontextualized editing and behind-the-scenes dramatics.
Literally only two season of Sentai are about teenagers being rangers (Turboranger and Megaranger.)
Weren't Ninningers teens too? Or were they in their 19's?
IIRC the Ninningers were all young adults, with ShiroNinger being the youngest.
I always misread this team's name, god damn it.
The joke was buried WAY into the ground during its airing time in the Sentai general on /m/.
oh, I don't go to /ssg/, I just follow Rider. Last Sentai I've watched was Gokaiger.
>Also how would one explain the episode (the very first one?) where there were literal japanese kids in a space shuttle with almost no context?
the way I justified it in my head was
>Angel Grove sounds kinda like Los Angeles
>Los Angeles is in California
>California is kinda multicultural (even back in the 90s)
>therefore Angel Grove is probably in California and has a good amount of Asians in it
I'm not that familiar with Bulk's dub actor (Toshiharu Sakurai), he dubs Shaggy, but he also did Ando, the fatfrick from Kaiji. Skulk's one is Ken Narita, Sesshomaru and current Bright Noa actor.
Both cool facts. I wouldn't mind watching a Japanese dubbed episode. Sounds fun.
Saban actually was going to fly Machiko Soga (Bandora) out to the US to shoot new footage with her as Rita for what was supposed to be the series finale of MMPR, which would have adapted Bandora's son as the final adversary of the show like in Zyuranger, but that plan was dropped when it was decided to keep the show going instead. And then when they brought in Lord Zedd as the new OC villain, scenes with Rita initially had her face obscured or out-of-focus to hide how she wasn't Soga anymore, and then she got a facial done to properly transition to the new actress.
Dubbed. Most notably, the same actress who played Bandora in Zyuranger dubbed over herself as "Rita Repulsa".
Rita sounds like Goku
>red ranger is a SAINT
whoa
Funny you mention that, Jason was voiced by Saint Seiya's voice actor in Spanish Latin America.
True; also I remember Billy being voiced by Rocco from Rocco's Modern Life.
Absolutely, I watched Zyuranger a couple of years ago and Daizyujin being an unapologetic butthole didn't help in making it less of a chore. Dairanger was pretty good, though.
>Rita sounds like Goku
Rita is voiced by Machiko Soga, who did Bandora in the original Zyuranger
wtf mean
Sucks that the subs for the initial shout factory sentai sets suck ass because of Toei's idiotic ODD, and i read that Ohranger just uses fansubs.
Yet still better then TV-Nihon
you can still find the GUIS subs if you look hard enough.
>video sends me to Green Ranger vs Red Ranger for both Power Ranger and Super Sentai
>the Japanese version is the most melodramatic shit possible
That being said, the choreography was great.
>>the Japanese version is the most melodramatic shit possible
makes sense in context Green and Red are brothers but Red was adopted by the royal family as a baby, his father was not happy with this and led a rebellion against them, this failed ending with their father's death to which Green swore revenge against them, including his brother
I just mean in the way it was delivered, along with the score and all that. I'm not saying it didn't make sense or was bad. Just that it's really, really, really taken very seriously for a toy commercial.
>really taken very seriously for a toy commercial.
Beast Wars was also a toy commercial and didn't shy away from having kino dramatic moments
And then you had episodes like farting Rhinox to counterbalance them.
Gundam is also a toy commercial, it's just the writers were allowed as far as the first series to do anything they wnted as long as "the toy" (i.e. the Mobile Suit itself) looked cool, so it became a political drama set in space revolving around warfare and the use of child solders to settle conflicts.
Exactly, Brazil had Black and Black RX, Venezuela had Liveman and Flashman, France had Bioman I believe... So, where did that "it's impossible to dub" logic came from?
>So, where did that "it's impossible to dub" logic came from?
Probably PTSD from the days of Sandy Frank dubs.
I know the Gamera dubs they did were hit and miss, and the G Force version of Gatchaman, but any more examples?
There's the various "movies" he awkwardly edited together out of Japanese TV shows, a lot of which became fodder for MST3K.
Zyuranger has the better fight on the basis of, well, being complete. The US crew went a bit too hard with the cuts. With that said, the PR version is still good because the music is on fricking point.
The PR music was surprisingly good, but I have a soft spot for Japan's orchestral music they used in stuff like this and in Dragon Ball. It hits that dramatic vibe so well.
What do Japanese fans think of these?
IIRC tokusatsu otaku think they're neat if anything. Very much a trivia piece, though they obviously loved that the SPD dub had the Dekaranger cast returning to voice their respective colors/characters.
>though they obviously loved that the SPD dub had the Dekaranger cast returning to voice their respective colors/characters
from what I understand (based entirely on looking it up on wikis) that's not really anything unusual. When they dubbed Power Rangers, they just about always had the original sentai actor dubbing the character that was their PR equivalent, at least for MMPR and the post-In Space seasons.
I heard a clip of the MMPR s1 rangers in japanese, and i cant assure you that the Sentai Actors for Geki, Goushi, Dan, Boi, Mei and Burai didnt return, just Machiko Soga and maybe Ami Kawaii as Scorpina
She was very Kawaii indeed.
It very much depends on the season. Mighty Morphin is an interesting oddity, SPD and Lost Galaxy are considered GOAT, Masked Rider is shunned upon but Dragon Knight is very much well-liked.
The writer of Tokumei Sentai GoBusters is a huge fanboy of Power Rangers, hence that show using american terminology like "It's Morphin Time" and "Megazord".
Go-Busters was written by a woman actually. One of the best writers they have, Yasuko Kobayashi.
That season made "It's morphin' time!" and "megazord" way cooler.
dragon knight is great. i kinda wish we got more kamen rider stateside or at the very least subs of the japanese shows but for some reason kamen rider is apparently more expensive to bring over than super sentai which is weird to me because 80-90% of power rangers uses stock footage.
i don't think the MMPR was any worse than TMNT, X-men and whatever copycats those IPs inspired in the 80s & 90s. what's funny to me is that the reboot movie was ironically a better breakfast club remake than a power rangers movie.
speaking as someone who grew up in what was effectively little asia i can get not realizing that "power rangers = super sentai" because if you weren't a weeb you wouldn't really have known until that anniversary special hosted by jason's actor. but pokemon? really?
>pokemon
I remember UPN (where Pokémon originally aired prior to the move to Kids WB) running an ad for the series which said something to the effect of Pokémon being the biggest thing to come out of Japan since Godzilla
"Saban's Masked Rider" soured things so badly that Japan has since become very protective of letting anybody in America touch Kamen Rider. Dragon Knight only came about after a lot of begging and promising that it wouldn't be like Saban's show at all.
>"Saban's Masked Rider"
i feel like there's more to it than just that. because masked rider didn't even have a budget for non-suit stuff like power rangers did so they ended up using even more stock footage from black RX to fill in the gaps which led to it being terrible.
Masked Rider was very, very strongly disliked by Ishinomori and his son has kept his word no American adaptations unless they promise a quality product. Dragon Knight even had official LNs like the SIC Hero Saga light novels for the "mainline" Riders and DK officially is one of the "many worlds Decade can witness".
There was the Power Rider trademark during the Neo-Saban era but went nowhere and Hasbro killed it.
It is rumored in Japanese circles IshinomoriPro actually stepped in and blocked the whole Power Rider bit, not trusting Saban to not repeat the Masked Rider incident.
So is that the reason Saban's MR had not been released on DVD or rebroadcast again on TV? (aside from that UK dvd)
Pretty much. Steve Wang back then did mention several times how badly IshinomoriPro wanted to bury and memoryhole that series, so much part of the pitch of DK was to "bury" the "Masked Rider" branding altogether, which is why starting with W they ditched "Masked Rider" from the english title previous seasons used.
Then how do you explain the "Masked Rider" name being used for Shin Kamen Rider on Amazon Prime and its subs? And you know what else, even a few years ago Toei and BanDai kept using the Masked Rider subtitle in merch releases like the DVDs, Blurays, CDs, etc, and they been using them since the 80s.
The monkier "Kamen Rider" wasn't added retroactively to all pre-W Riders, it applies chiefly to everything W onwards. The Decade Ganbaride cards, for instance, still say "Masked Rider" for Decade and older "Kamen Ride-type cards (which already seem to point to that direction by not being called "Masked Ride"), however after him it's "Kamen Ride: Kamen Rider Double/OOO/Fourze/Wizard/Gaim" etc etc.
Since Anno's Shin is a retelling of the original, the subtitles use "Masked Rider" as Ishinomori would've. That's why the official subs for the older Shin Kamen Rider use "MASKED RIDER SHIN". We'll probably see "Kamen Rider" purely for the branding of older characters despite the subs saying "Masked", while the newer stuff will use "Kamen" in the subs as well.
Toei/IshiPro give me migraines.
Shouts subs for Rider71 uses Kamen Rider, NEVER uses Masked Rider, but does translate the name of the kaijin, other then that the subs are good.
That's just an old internet hoax. There's no source or evidence for any of that being true.
>Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight - 2WORLD 1HEARTS (カメンライダー ドラゴンナイト 2ワールド 1ハーツ) is a Japanese novel that serves as a sequel to Kamen Rider: Dragon Knight, with all 13 riders appearing. The novel was written by Mano Katsunari as his debut work. It was written due to the popularity of Dragon Knight in Japan.
>ISBN 978-4-7816-0436-7
I was referring to the rumors about Ishinomori disliking Masked Rider. He never said a word about it. He most likely never watched it. Black RX was already pretty far removed from his actual vision (just read the Black manga). Again, he was a manga artist and outside some ideas and character designs, he wasn't directly involved in those shows.
He wasn't overly protective of Kamen Rider either, he even approved of a comedy show pretty much mocking the whole series called Kamen Norida. I doubt he was even the one giving the ok for whatever business decision Ishimori Pro would take, because he basically had no time for such matters. He isn't a Guinness Record holder for nothing.
Didn't Steve Wang feed into Ishinomori hating Masked Rider and how much of a b***h it was convincing Toei+IshiPro to make Dragon Knight?
He never said that. Ishinomori wasn't even alive for Dragon Knight, why would that be an issue? The only thing I found was a Steve Wang interview where he mentions why he called the show Kamen Rider instead of Masked Rider Dragon Knight like Toei intended.
>>SW: It was my idea to rename the show. I had to convince Toei to let me call it KAMEN Rider instead of MASKED Rider for a few reasons. Growing up, I never watched ‘Masked Rider’… it was always KAMEN RIDER and seeing it called ‘Masked’ always felt strange. I’m just not a fan of using descriptions to name a character such as ‘Masked’. That’s like calling Darth Vader “Armored Sith Lord”. It’s silly to me.
>why would that be an issue?
It might be just hearsay from that time, that Ishinomori's son + IshiPro is kind of a hardass in regards to Kamen Rider beign international.
They're not. I really don't know where you're getting these ideas. A lot of shows are getting licensed recently, some anniversary projects had worldwide releases. The manga was released internationally as well. Do you mean just adaptations a la Power Rangers? Those just didn't make enough money to justify the costs.
It was spoken off back then on some forums like henshin alliance. of course, forums talk isn't hard evidence, i just accepted it as fact back then just because of how bad Masked Rider is compared to Mighty Morphin. But yeah, I meant adaptations.
I think Masked Rider was meant to be cheap and short since they weren’t doing Kamen Rider shows anymore. Black wasn’t marketable since he only has one form and 2 bikes. So wouldn’t make sense to go back for more like VR Troopers did with Shaider being the Metalder upgrade. The older ones were just too old. They probably knew from the get go that it wouldn’t be another MMPR, but decided to do an experiment anyway, but keeping expectations low. If they tried it after Kuuga, things could have been different.
>I’m just not a fan of using descriptions to name a character such as ‘Masked’. That’s like calling Darth Vader “Armored Sith Lord”. It’s silly to me.
holy shit this dude is such a fricking weeb. kamen just means mask, this reminds me of my cringe teenage years when I refused to use english names for Pokemon because the Japanese names sounded cool and the english names were all stupid childish puns.
I can't entirely blame him. The Hawaiian broadcasts of the Showa era shows that had subtitles used "Kamen Rider" rather than "Masked Rider", and nostalgia is one hell of a drug.
>That's just an old internet hoax. There's no source or evidence for any of that being true.
>No evidence for any of that being true.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/KAMEN-DRAGON-KNIGHT-2WORLD-1HEARTS-カメンライダー-ドラゴンナイト/dp/4781604366
You need to be a total weeaboo KR fanatic in order to actually legit defend Chaim Saban's MR.
Do I really need to remind you about motherfricking Fergus?
>weeaboo defending the western adaptation
Anon, my dude, wouldn't it be a Westaboo?
WAKE UP!
but what i'm trying to say here
is that unless they purposefully set saban up to fail with masked rider there's more to that story because the show literally HAD NO BUDGET to start with while power rangers had no such issues despite having a similar production cycle.
>Given the Hasbro situation and how they want to completely divorce Power Rangers from Super Sentai
that's been a thing since the disney days and even the original saban days. it's mostly born from the fact that they don't really want to pay toei for the costumes & stock footage (FUN FACT: the MMPR movie suits were suppose to replace the show's suits but they were too heavy & fragile to work with). which i can get but at that point why not just make you're own toku show?
>A lot of them are fueled by Adi Shankar's "bootleg Power Rangers" which is the edgiest "missing the point" shitfest known to man.
if that's the short i'm thinking of then "missing the point" was suppose to be the point and the fact that people don't get that it was suppose to be a parody of edgy reboots and what people thought reboot movie was going to be like is kinda funny.
>if that's the short i'm thinking of then "missing the point" was suppose to be the point and the fact that people don't get that it was suppose to be a parody of edgy reboots and what people thought reboot movie was going to be like is kinda funny.
Seeing how Shankar and Ellis fricking ruined Castlevania past the S1 script (written in the 00's when IGA was still the overseer), I am not willing to give Shankar that much credit, let alone the benefit of the doubt.
>why not just make you're own toku show?
For whatever reason the US is unwilling to make proper investments on tokusatsu, mainly because the suits have strong bias against rubber suit monsters or wanting it done super cheap. Remember Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills?
i'd argue that CW flash was pretty good for the first 2 seasons if that counts. especially since every season after them were basically a rehash of those first 2 seasons.
my only real complaints outside of that is that making everyone a speedster is boring. like jay, thawne (the "real" one) & wally are fine but did we really need no name shitters like godspeed, impulse, cobalt blue or XS? i mean frick, nobody is going to care about pic related if he's not going to be batman.
Ah, good example. Fair enough. It somehow feels different from Japanese tokusatsu, though, so it didn't pop into my mind.
>FUN FACT: the MMPR movie suits were suppose to replace the show's suits but they were too heavy & fragile to work with
So that's were the whole sillyness with the ''glitter armor'' came from? they were supposed to upgrade to the movie costumes?
yep. saban either ran out or was running out of zyuranger footage by the time of the movie. the eventual move to alien rangers & ZEO were a result of that.
as i said before i don't blame saban, disney or even hasbro for wanting to distance power rangers from super sentai. having to rely on toei for everything sounds pretty inconvenient from a production standpoint while toei themselves sounds pretty difficult to work with. i can only imagine how hasbro & IDW managed to get the comic OK'd by toei considering that they shot down two attempts at a power rangers animated series.
They already had run out of Zyuranger and even Zyu2 footage after the first dozen or so of S2 episodes, and by the time they filmed the movie in New Zealand they run out the Dairanger footage too.
which goes back to what i was saying that the way they made power rangers just sounds inconvenient production wise.
it would've been infinitely easier if they just took super sentai and dub over it.
>just sounds inconvenient production wise.
more like inconvenient to his pocket, Toei was fine with taking costumes out of the closet and making more footage for them, even as far as respecting PR character dynamics like having the yellow ranger act more girly despite their being a guy
For some reason, English speaking countries are outstandingly against dubbed productions, always claiming "lip sync" as an excuse or "it's imposible" while every other country in the world dubs every american movie and TV production.
t. grew up with Back to the Future, RoboCop, Terminator, etc. dubbed to Spanish.
It's even dumber when countries like Brazil and several places in Europe had dubbed various toku shows prior to PR
>For some reason, English speaking countries are outstandingly against dubbed productions, always claiming "lip sync" as an excuse or "it's impossible".
i personally blame weebs for this mindset. they're so deathly afraid of something being changed or altered despite the fact that some things are almost 100% guaranteed to be lost in translation depending on the culture or language said thing is being translated to.
No, this mindset predates weebs, people citing Bruce Lee and Godzilla movies was the original arguement against dubs back in the day, although the backlash against American dubs also go beyond the American weebs, I know for a fact in the early 00s the Latinamericans who had internet access reacted really badly at American dubs of DBZ and Saint Seiya, such at the censorship of the blood, the change in OST, chiefly the song Rock the Dragon. The backlash at the time basically became two camps of thought: "gringos can't dub for shit" or "gringos are intentionally sabotaging other media so they won't have competition". The knowledge of how strict american tv standards wasn't widely known, but also jelly-filled donuts.
>gringos are intentionally sabotaging other media so they won't have competition
And it isnt true? after the Localization Fiasco that happened?
I forgot who was who said it, but you have to fear more the people who genuinely believe they're doing a social good for humanity, because with businessmen and saboteurs at least you know it's all about money. But the fiasco is delusional people with hero complex, the truly dangerous ones.
i wish that dragon maid scene wasn't THE goto example everyone uses because both versions of that scene do get the point across of "character decided to dress more conservatively after getting complaints about how she dresses" with pretty much the same punchline but people always use it as a "smoking gun" because the dub used more charged vocabulary.
like you have so many other sketchy & shady moments in that industry to choose from that makes your argument better and people choose the one that's effectively a dogwhistle?
I think because "patriarchy" it's too on the nose, it almost sounds like parody.
>modern /vr/ not playing apologia for current thing
By the time they hit Season 3, almost all the Ranger battles was American-made and Sentai footage was only used for the Zord battles. The Alien Rangers arc was the first time since Season 1 that they went back to Sentai footage for most of the Ranger battles.
>because if you weren't a weeb you wouldn't really have known until that anniversary special hosted by jason's actor.
God I remember seeing this as a kid and immediately wanting to watch the actual series it was based on. Damn near shit my pants when I found out there was more of that stuff out there I could not obtain. Thank god for fansubs little kid me would have his mind blown if he knew how much Sentai he was gonna watch in the future let alone stuff like Metal Heroes.
the last power ranger show i watched was time force but as far as super sentai shows go the only ones that really interested me were carranger, megaranger, gokairanger and akibaranger with SPD being the only power rangers show that interests me.
kamen rider is the stuff i really wanna see. i managed to find/get ryuki recently and i'm trying to track down dragon knight (archive.org only has half the series), drive, W (mostly because skull has a kino design) & fourze.
That's funny cause I'm the opposite. I eat up so much Sentai like to the point I've seen close to half the franchise in about the last ten years but Rider it takes me close to a year to finish an entry. Granted over time I stopped binge watching stuff so that could be why, I went from multiple Sentai entries a year to one maybe two cause I realized binging shit made it way harder to keep track of what I actually watched. Anyway Ryuki is fricking amazing the last three episodes ripped my soul apart.
I guess it makes sense that the US Power Rangers would have some level of popularity in Japan, given its addition of teenage slice-of-life plots, which seem to be quite popular in Japanese media.
I wonder if the mention of Super/Megaforce is a guaranteed ban from any toku discussion over there
Thats what i wanted to know as well.
Nta but even knowing mmpr was spliced together it wasnt a hard watch. I only wanted see the monsters and stunts but i was in jr high i think so i knew about westernizing stuff via wizard magazine and stuff.
Akibaranger had a fun bit with them.
They weren't aware that it even existed.
It only aired in the middle of the night on a pay channel no one has.
>The novel also includes paper crafts of the Advent Decks, interviews regarding the series winning an Emmy, being praised by Japanese fans, talks about being a Kamen Rider Ryuki remake, being four seasons long, its movie quality action and it being a part of the Kamen Rider Boom.
So this book doesn't exist, you say? KRDK never performed well,you say? The KRDK Figmas done in response to such reception are mass hallucinations?
We're talking about power rangers you tard, not Dragon Knight.
Japan fricking loves America. Based!
>American colony
Wonder why
America-seethers admitting to being in love with an American-developed country
Based.
Not sure if you know what a colony is. Are ant colonies filled with different species of ants?
America is only cool when it's filtered through a romanticized foreign point of view
I feel the same about Japan, having actually been there.
Foreign depictions of Japan and the rest of East Asia almost always suck and end up being extremely corny, this font being a prime example.
The best romanticized depictions of Japan come from Japan itself.
i fricking hate that type of font
>having actually been there.
same but I still feel a sort of comfort when going and knowing how things are, but i think it helped that I learned of their culture/history before actually going and not just only seen their animations or read their comics. So glad my exposure wasn't just the exports, I imagine it would be the same for them going to NYC or Paris
>"Dear, how was your trip to New York?"
>"I'm never going back..."
That's the same with every European, South American, Middle Eastern, South Asian, Southeast Asian, and East Asian country, by that standard.
You think sewer-oil-drinking Chinese are reciting Sun Tzu and Shaolin monks' precepts? You think Notre Dame is still standing and Germany isn't a Turkish annex? You think fiestas in Oaxaca and Rio are actually everywhere in those countries rather than just in tourist areas? That is some WeWuzKangz-level (self-)delusion, if so.
>You think sewer-oil-drinking Chinese are reciting Sun Tzu and Shaolin monks' precepts?
No they just own property instead.
>Chinese populace
>owning property
Think about that a little longer, anon.
I don't need to, I'm the only one in my friend group who owns property, everyone else is seemingly renting for longer and longer and it's not getting cheaper. China isn't currently being flooded by non-natives and dividing houses up into HMOs.
>I own property in a politburo-controlled country
You are a complete fricking idiot if you're not shitposting or a paid the Fifty Cent Army sperg, but I'll allow it.
being the most powerful country in the history of the world is pretty cool actually, regardless of what foreigners think
That shit just confuses the shit out of me
>Sentai becomes Power Rangers in the US
>Power Rangers suddenly comes to Japan and is just there as a different show that exists
This is beyond Doki doki panic becoming Mario 2 and then coming back as Mario USA, this just sounds confusing.
I'll give Power Rangers one thing, though; making the giant sentient robots into mechs was an obvious improvement.
>watch Saber Rider and enjoy the ship's computer being voiced by Peter Cullen doing his most John Wayne ever Optimus Prime voice
>watch Bismark
>Bismark not talk
Kind of disappointed me not gonna lie.
That was actually one of my pet peeves with Zyuranger. I was so used to the monsters talking and bantering in PR that most of them never talking at all in Zyuranger got me by surprise. The absolute worst is Goldar's counterpart, Grifforzer. Fricker doesn't talk during most of the show and when he finally does is bland and forgettable; doesn't even have a proper rivalry with the Red Ranger.
To be fair Grifforzer did his job as a general and even managed to have a child with his scorpion waifu, Goldar started good but became more of a joke as time went on to the point even Bulk and Skull could take him on
Grifforzer was named after the Griffon but its actually a Manticore Humanoid, part man, part Lion and part Scorpion, but then got retooled as a flying monkey in Power Rangers
I felt like such an idiot when it took until seeing History of Power Rangers for me to even realize Saban was pushing for a "Wizard of Oz" theming angle.
Lami/Scorpina had it rough in Power Rangers. All her best Sentai scenes were against unmorphed Rangers and Saban couldn't use that, so her screentime was very limited. Then they tried to get a US actress for her but couldn't keep her around and so she just vanished wiithout a word.
Then why not cut her all together since she was a japanese faced character.
same reason they used footage of that mecha fight that had a random japanese kid in it
Saban editors were paid pennies
It's just surprising and a bit sad that Saban even bothered to try and get a US actress for Scorpina in the first place. Once Lord Zedd came in, the only one of Rita's gang they kept around was Goldar.
You're forgetting the main reason: it's a fricking kid's show. Kids weren't paying attention to those details and caring.
Even as a kid I wondered why the frick were so many signs and buildings with chicken scratch on them
Also you doubt the attention span of kids
Goldar becomes a pushover during the middle of the second season, but prior to that he is pretty solid. His interactions with Jason during episodes like Green With Evil or Missing Green mog anything related to Grifforzer's characterization.
It's funny because from what I remember from Zyuranger, I enjoyed the villains more than their PR counterparts, except for Grifforzer.
Why go to the trouble of drawing something this nice and not realize that the dark dimension is not something that just floats in space?
Gotta disagree with you guys, the butthole god was a highlight of Zyuranger. But it was absolutely the right call to ditch that for Power Rangers.
It's all recursive. A lot of sentai conventions originated with Spider-Man, of all things, including summoning a giant robot.
bigger market.
what makes money
Beyond what's already been said, yeah, the original Jyuuranger was already old enough news that the existing game was for the original Famicom. At the time, SNES releases were more profitable, so they needed a new game to capitalize on the PR hype instead of just localizing the old one
Because they could reskin a game they already made into a licensed guaranteed seller.
How is it a reskin?
Play both and you'll see.
Reused UI elements, mechanics, and sound effects. They play incredibly similar. Some of the enemies have the exact same movement patterns.
That's not a reskin though.
morons detected
>Play both
What's the other game?
Ninja Warriors (SNES)
Sounds neat, I liked MMPR SNES
Power Rangers Fighting Edition also uses the same engine (and has a lot of the same sound effects etc.) as Gundam Wing Endless Duel
Ninja Warriors is a good game and I recommend it, but calling it a MMPR reskin is wrong
You're a fricking moron, honestly.
Aren't you thinking about the MMPR The Movie game?
I liked that one. The sound effects are burned into my mind. Might play this
How do jap sentai fans view Rangers franchise/the western fan explosion it had? I know the one ps1 pinball game got a jap release unedited.
With "ああ、そうか".
They don't care or think of it as a minor trivia fact as best. It was used for a gag in an episode of the sentai parody show Akibaranger once.
Commando movie is hugely popular over there, it was widely used as meme material for a while and even today many people still remember and quote many of the lines of the dub. Did you know or give a frick? No. Same thing.
the Ps1 pinball game was released officially in the US too, just is that version was too obscure and unknown to most people.
Today on /vr/: Anon learns about taking money to do work.
For me, it's Billy. I love his crouching punch.
I've had both this and the fighting game since I was a kid, and haven't plated them since. Surprisingly, I've seen both games praised. I would have just assumed they were licensed garbage I played because it was Power Rangers. I'll have to revisit them some time.
Ivan Ooze was legit challenging. It's K.Rool tier in the "catches you off guard" totem pole of final bosses. Also the music is catchy as frick.
They wanted to frick Kimberly like us.
Cause Zyuranger was so boring even Japanese people wanted nothing to do with it.
I mean, why not? They were told to make a specifically MMPR game so they made it.
Because they were paid to.
Konami producing The Simpsons Beat ‘Em Up did a lot for intercontinental relations between Japan and the US of A
remember when Konami made frickin video games?
I sure do.
God fricking damn I loved this game. I still replay the first level now and then.
Money.
Japan actually imported Power Rangers as Mighty Rangers and it played on Saturdays on TV Asashi in 1994-1995. So it's not out of the question to import the game based on it, even with it's Japanese footage origins
I like the Natsume PR game on the Famicom. Graphics aren't as detailed as other Natsume classics (i.e. Shatterhand, Shadow of the Ninja, Power Blade 1 & 2 and Dragon Fighter) but they are good enough with a typically solid soundtrack to boot.
I'm surprised nobody's modded Tommy/Green Ranger into this game.
has the amazon KR stuff been any popular? i'd love to see another western attempt at the genre
Given the Hasbro situation and how they want to completely divorce Power Rangers from Super Sentai (to the point of Hasbro execs outright insulting the "obvious fakeness" of the tokusatsu genre), Toei don't seem to want any more western adaptations and instead just subttitle what they do through Shout Factory and other services. It seems they're going hard on making Japanese Kamen Rider the only Kamen Rider.
I've got no complaints, since we got Memory of Heroez in English as a result.
that's a shame, but i said genre for a reason. if someone made their own toku show unrelated to KR or Sentai, that'd still be cool.
but also, the obvious fakeness is part of the fun hasbro wtf
There's the new original suits in Cosmic Fury which look god awful but somehow "muscles = more real" and the take Hasbro has is that they need the monsters to look "realistic" and since Sentai foregoes realism for fun gimmicks akin to wrestling matches, Hasbro think they can eventually just stick to the Zyuranger designs fighting realistic CGI monsters eventually. A lot of them are fueled by Adi Shankar's "bootleg Power Rangers" which is the edgiest "missing the point" shitfest known to man. It's not even fun edge like some manga inspired by Sentai had done.
I replayed this game recently and is as good as I remembered it. It's not the most complex beat 'em up, but it gets the job done. Criminal how the Genesis version is a mediocre SF2 clone. Still, Genesis redeemed itself with The Movie game, which I think is far superior to the SNES version. Both are good but the Genesis game adds iconic storylines from the second season in addition to the movie segments and the soundtrack is 16-bit versions of the actual music from the show (which is amazing); can't argue with that level of soul.
I also played back then both Sentai games on the Famicom. The Zyuranger one is a mediocre side scroller but the Jetman game is alright. Just recently I read it was also from Natsume and it makes sense because the Zord fights are basically the same style as in the first MMPR on SNES.
There are also a couple of Sentai games for PS1 which were released late into the console's lifespan and, I guess in part for that, have some really impressive graphics. Mechanically they are mediocre beat 'em ups, but overall I'd say they are serviceable games if you are into Toku.
I never really understood why Toei/Bandai never released Sentai games of the same quality as some of their anime properties. It's not due lack of popularity, that's for sure.
>Genesis redeemed itself with The Movie game, which I think is far superior to the SNES version. Both are good but the Genesis game adds iconic storylines from the second season in addition to the movie segments and the soundtrack is 16-bit versions of the actual music from the show (which is amazing); can't argue with that level of soul.
What was lame is that the Genesis version ommited the whole quest of Endos reduced to just a cutscene, that was a lame disappointment, you dont even get to fight the Tenga Warriors, the S1 flashbacks were kinda out of place, tough it was a nice detail to add the avatars of Trini, Zack & Jason.
the SNES sequel was really a unrelated Natsume brawler with Rangers and Monsters added in with Ivan as the Final Boss and no Megazord fight.
>the SNES sequel was really a unrelated Natsume brawler with Rangers and Monsters added in with Ivan as the Final Boss and no Megazord fight.
Given how his Putties and Z emblem is everywhere, it really feels like Lord Zedd was supposed to be the last boss but got replaced with Ivan to capitalize more on the movie.
Yeah, no Tengas suck. Still, outside of that I can't remember something else to complain about.
>the SNES sequel was really a unrelated Natsume brawler with Rangers and Monsters added in with Ivan as the Final Boss and no Megazord fight.
Didn't know that. It's funny because they later used The Fighting Edition as the basis for that one Gundam fighting game. It'd be nice for Natsume to have another go at PR now that they are remaking their old games, but the license seems like a b***h to get and also at this point who knows how profitable a PR vidya project might be.
Because it was the English language re-dub that actually made the show popular.
Was watching the jap dub of the PR Movie last night. Nip Ivan Ooze is fun.
Power Rangers is at worst looked upon as a curio, much the same as the American version of Godzilla and Mothra, with some people enjoying it as a Hollywood version of the story. It's far from the worst or weirdest example of American tokusatsu, though because of it Toei felt comfortable lending suits and letting Saban and other studios use their properties.
Pic related, it's an infamous example where mid production they realized the show they were making was shit so they slapped on a random toku series they had the rights for, though unlike power rangers it heavily uses original footage and ends up becoming cringe kino.
Big Bad BeetleBorgs was lit as frick.
Flabber made that show. I dont care about the toku shit in it. GImme dat ghostly Jay Leno Elvis.
Reportedly, Saban wanted to make the show solely about the monsters having to share their haunted house together as roommates, but nobody would go for it until they tacked another Toku show on it (since that was by now Saban's big claim to fame) and even then most episodes were padded with the exact same vehicle fight scenes played ad nauseum.
That's a pretty funny story. I thought it was a Toku show they wanted to adapt first and the haunted house and monsters came second as some quick reason on how they get their powers/keep it different from power rangers.
I can't imagine some producer today looking at some crappy monster sitcom and going "It needs power rangers and mech fights"
funny thing is, Beetleborgs did do very well. They were just screwed because Kabutack was too different to adapt. Saban's toku push was cut short by a lack of toku shows in the late 90s(along with souring their relationship with Ishinomoripro).When the tokurevival started around the 2000's, they were closing up shop and selling to Disney.
>funny thing is, Beetleborgs did do very well
I remember people, mostly younger than me, liking it back in the day. I loved MMPR and VRT, but for some reason I was never able to get into BBB. In retrospective it wouldn't surprise me that the kid protagonists and the "sitcom" format of the monster house might have been the reasons why. I remember dropping PR like a rock during Turbo, which just happened to introduce Justin (which was a kid) as the Blue Ranger.
I feel like Turbo started getting better once they got rid of the veteran Rangers and brought in an all-new cast. Never made muchbsince that Tommy and his team would have any kind of struggle against the Doronjo knockoff that was Divatox, which was probably why she relied more on bomb threats than monster attacks in the first half.
I think the worst thing about Beetleborgs is how they had an amazing fricking premise but just turned it into a dummed down kids show because of all the soccer moms who thought MMPR was too violent
>Pic related, it's an infamous example where mid production they realized the show they were making was shit so they slapped on a random toku series they had the rights for, though unlike power rangers it heavily uses original footage and ends up becoming cringe kino.
Big Bad Beatleborgs was like a fever dream.
For me, it will always be The SuperHuman Samurai SyberSquad:
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And also VR Troopers.
VR Troopers was great, I loved it as much as MMPR when I was a kid. Never knew that game existed; only learnt about it way later when I started messing with emulation and never played it because it looked like yet another mediocre SF2 clone, just like the first MMPR for the Genesis. A damn shame because a VR Troopers beat 'em up would have been nice.
There is an 8-bit port of it on the GameGear too. I know I have seen the GameGear one in a department store. Never seen the box for the Genesis game. It looks like a downgrade on the Genesis/ MD game. I liked the show VR Trooper more than MMPR's.
I do remember playing one of the Power Ranger games on the GameGear, I don't think it was the movie tie-in. I like MMPR for the GameGear. half way mix of a wave fighter and a 1vs1 fighter. Also, I remember playing the SNES game. It was alright.
I didnt care for this how. Being a 1v1 fighting game kinda killed it for me. Also being so early on meant they had all the shit boss monsters that were mostly forgotten about by the time the cooler monsters were around. Like that stupid lipstick monster.
MMPR:TM on Gamegear is a sequel with barely anything changed from the original. They're probably literally the best fighting games on the system.
>MMPR:TM on Gamegear is a sequel with barely anything changed from the original. They're probably literally the best fighting games on the system.
MMPR and MMPG: The Movie for GG are halfway between a beat 'em up and a 1v1 fighting game. Monster boss stage 1--> wave of putty's -> monster boss stage 2 --> Zord battle. This format works with TV show template really well. Both games were made by Sims Co., too. The same developers who made Disney's Aladdin for the GG/ SMS as well as some other licensed games. Sims Co. They also did do the Power Rangers movie game for the Genesis/ MD as well.
>halfway between a beat 'em up and a 1v1 fighting game
If you play story mode. There is a 1v1 mode too.
SSSS (Gridman) was so good though.
Or at least the toy was. Frick that thing was sweet.
They did Billy fricking dirty. Look at that fat slob. Meanwhile David Yost was a professional gymnast and likely in better shape than anyone else in the cast. But they couldn't let him outshine the others so they dressed him in the most unflattering outfits they could find.
I think it's supposed to be baggy clothing and not a fat sprite. IYost did wear baggy overalls in a few early eps, as you mentioned very unflattering, because nerd character.
This is one thing I'm glad modern TV started subverting. It grew tiring in the 80s and 90s that every character fell into a specific archetype with zero deviation. Even back then I would get tired of knowing exactly what to expect from a character episode to episode. Now at least they're letting characters be three dimensional in shows like Cobra Kai and Stranger Things.
Ask that about 1942
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Thats not even a dub though, thats the Power Rangers Movie, which was original content.
Huh? This is from the first SNES game which was 100% show-based.