Unironically true, but people think because it has some cut scenes and story moments it's more like Half-Life. You can tell they only played the first three or so levels and stopped.
That insane revisionism.
People b***hed non stop about doom 3 being fricking dark as hell where you can't see shit.
Also it had very few enemies at a time.
Basically everyone cried about it being a "current era shooter" instead of doom, just like you are crying about nuDoom now and being a nostalgiagay about doom 3.
It was a good game, but only if you didn't care about it not being doom.
>We're talking about Doom 3 being more Doom than nudoom, which is 100% true
not true, see
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i like doom 3 but its slow as FRICK, its absolutely not more faithful than nudooms you delusional contrarians. the worst you can say about nudooms is that its now an arena shooter which, while bad, doesnt exactly matter vs doom 3 which is a linear corridor shooter so both games have ass level design
i liked doom 3 more than i wouldve otherwise *because* it was a doom game lol. it was cool as shit seeing all the monsters from my fav game in 3D and have ebic lore about uac and hell and its demons
Unironically true, but people think because it has some cut scenes and story moments it's more like Half-Life. You can tell they only played the first three or so levels and stopped.
This is 100% true, nudoom is some shitty serious sam/shadow warrior remake rip off
i like doom 3 but its slow as FRICK, its absolutely not more faithful than nudooms you delusional contrarians. the worst you can say about nudooms is that its now an arena shooter which, while bad, doesnt exactly matter vs doom 3 which is a linear corridor shooter so both games have ass level design
samunai. sorry bud but i played both doom1/2 and doom 3 from the former to ladder and doom 3 is objectively better. More modern and evolved. while doom and doom eternal are tryhards and have nothing to do with doom1/2 but ok.
7 months ago
Anonymous
your absolutely horrid engrish aside we're not talking about which game is better, we're talking about which is more similar to original dooms. doom 3 is slow as frick to play, end of story
Wrong interpretation, it's about defying all odds that makes someone stand out, if you're an unstoppable le badass force of nature then there really isn't anything remarkable about the feats of the character
You wouldn't get it. John McClain in hell is impressive. He survives against impossible odds. A Marvel movie hero who can't die is boring and juvenile.
How come every time I see a gigachad OP on Ganker they're always peddling and shilling some moronic contrarian shit? Is this some sort of marketing campaign or psyop bullshit? No seriously this shit is clockwork, everytime this fricking face pops up its trying to sell me something >you're a schizo that's not real
yeah I am but thats beside the point its real im telling you this is a marketing tactic
It's well documented that companies like Microsoft leverage astroturfed RETVRN garbage to devalue current IPs and developers, making them easier to purchase. It doesn't matter if it's creating the perception that these games are shit, the end result is exactly what the suits want.
Only a homosexual would think that doom guy wasn't a badass in the original doom. If anything, you're more ruthless in the originals since you had to fight 100+ monsters per map. Sometimes more than half at the same time.
Considering monsters in original soon walk around like old grannies and can't even hit an attack on you if you just tap a strafe key, its not really "badass" if the demons are jobbers at the level of Night of the Living Dead zombies. Just go for a job and they can't catch you lmao.
Yeah, but that's not the point, the point is that the Doom reboot games force this "UBER MEGA BADASS" bullshit down your throat while the originals don't.
Old doomguy was a borderline satire of action movie heroes, either being a complete edgelord in quake 3s cut lines or a total schizo like in the comic. In the reboot game he just is an action movie hero
Maybe. Zoomies are strange when it comes to this.
I played Doom 3 when it came out and I thought it was mediocre. Especially
Sure it was spooky back then but the novelty wore off pretty quick and it didn't felt like Doom @ all.
The classics on the other end score even higher nowadays with all the TCs and other mods/full games!
See these two.
And who gives a crap what the Nu devs think?!
It terms of FPSs it was mediocre back then.
I terms of Doom it's got nothing to do with it and won't come close to the classics.
Nothing will ever come close to 90s FPSs!
picrel whipped the floor with it btw. Replaying it @ the moment.
In ten years Ganker will praise Doom 2016 and Eternal with their lives while calling the new releases shit just watch
contrarians are braindead
During eternals launch some of them were even trying to shill that shitty Doom 4 that was going to be a CoD clone
Because Doom 3 was always good and I'm tired of pretending it isn't. Even the 2016 and Eternal fans acknowledge it's a good game. The only contrarians here are you frick sticks.
>gays are now nostalgic about Doom 3.
Yeah I remember how you all shat on it on release for being different..
I always liked it though. And also quake 4.
Doom 3 Dynamic Shadows, Lights and Lightmaps were so damn good that Creative patented the damn thing for a decade until it expired and became public dominion.
No other games at that time could pull out what idtech 3 could do, and HL2 and FEAR had a giant visual nerf post launch.
It still looks great. TDM has some tweaks I believe.
However they delivered a fantastic game with it.
Maybe it's just the artstyle. Dunno. Shit was almost 20 years ago.
Speaking of technical stuff I only ever remember that Bump Mapping, Shader Model 3.0 & FXAA used to be big att.
It's only zoomies making these arguments of old = good, new = bad
Depends on the how you (or others) ought to define 'old'.
Cant take eternal seriously which i know isnt the point, but the story lost any tension because of the reveal of the DOOM slayer being prophesized to kill satan or someshit in the DLC. I liked the idea that he was just a normal soldier doing what he can to survive and shit like OG dooms but i guess i have a bias for these kind of protagonists like picrel
>caring about story in doom
I guess that's his point. Doom shouldn't have a story @ all.
Duke Nukem has a plot more thicc...
7 months ago
Anonymous
doom has always had a story
eternal also does the story better than both 3 and 2016, by which i mean how little it interrupts the gameplay. dont care about its quality
7 months ago
Anonymous
>by which i mean how little it interrupts the gameplay
7 months ago
Anonymous
impressive, very nice
now lets look at how much unskippable cutscene there is in 2016
7 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't played 2016 and I skipped all cutscenes in Eternal.
Maybe I'll play it on my Deck. >always had a story.
Yeah... In form of wee textboxes which you received as a reward.
Carmack also made sure the game would shine under CRT Screens so it was the last hooray of the old, since LCD screens and later LED made the light and shadows look washed up.
I had a 15" TFT but later exchanged it for a 19" CRT b4 i got my 1st 16:9 in '08.
I remember that the models in Chaos Theory had blurry lines+the res on the CRT was higher. >1024x768 vs 1280×960
Commit suicide.
picrel
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah... In form of wee textboxes which you received as a reward.
2016 has unskippable cutscenes a la hl2 and 3 is the most story-heavy game of the bunch. there has been doom games since the sprite era you know
7 months ago
Anonymous
Carmack also made sure the game would shine under CRT Screens so it was the last hooray of the old, since LCD screens and later LED made the light and shadows look washed up.
doom (2) is my favourite game and all the doom games are great. 3 doesnt belong with the 2.5D games btw theyre absolutely nothing alike
theres nothing wrong with having fun lmao which the nudooms (eternal especially) are, you some kind of gay?
Because old morons set in their ways and afraid of change would criticize anything new anyway and would rather play doom wads so why cater to them in the first place? The objective is to sell a game to as many people as possible.
Oh I agree, I've played through doom episodes 1-3 and doom TWID with just smooth doom. Didn't really enjoy TFC. However doom 2 is one I just have to play with PB because it's fun going through the city levels with a big arsenal of weapons and such. A lot of fun.
KEK, when I play a horror game and find myself getting too spooked, i will shout out the whole "your locked in here with me" line as i beat the shit out of whatever the frick while in battle.
Doom 3 sucks ass, I really hate this moronic revisionism.
I dont know how well doom 3 holds up today due to having played it on release year but I have a feeling it doesn't really. So I always assume these posts shitting on Doom 3 from the perspective of being "contrarian" are youngn's
your absolutely horrid engrish aside we're not talking about which game is better, we're talking about which is more similar to original dooms. doom 3 is slow as frick to play, end of story
sorry "latter"
ok but i am eop and doom3 is nothing like quake or whatever, it trying to be its own thing and still becomes a cult classic. while doom and doom eternal are just tryhards.
:^)
Cant take eternal seriously which i know isnt the point, but the story lost any tension because of the reveal of the DOOM slayer being prophesized to kill satan or someshit in the DLC. I liked the idea that he was just a normal soldier doing what he can to survive and shit like OG dooms but i guess i have a bias for these kind of protagonists like picrel
Didnt say anything about the gameplay, gameplay is alright since i liked Doom 2016. If you want a complaint out of me for the gameplay, the stone imps in the DLC needing a specific weapon to realistically take out is a dumb mechanic
Are people still pretending DOOM 1/2 are hard? Maybe if you played them at the time of release and had no experience with FPS games but by now they're crazy easy even on max difficulty.
I think most people can agree that the later games, while doomguy doesn't move as quick. is more intense to play requiring more input. That's probably what it's referring to
something about the bottom right section of this image seems out of place, but I can't quite put my finger on it
Doom 3 is more faithful to the series than nuDoom.
Only if you never made it past the first level of Doom.
only if you never heard Carmack speak on it
Doom 3 is the closest thing to the og concept
have a nice day.
Unironically true, but people think because it has some cut scenes and story moments it's more like Half-Life. You can tell they only played the first three or so levels and stopped.
Or because it's a homosexual game that pretends to be survival horror half of the time.
You played the bfg-edition didn't you
This is 100% true, nudoom is some shitty serious sam/shadow warrior remake rip off
That insane revisionism.
People b***hed non stop about doom 3 being fricking dark as hell where you can't see shit.
Also it had very few enemies at a time.
Basically everyone cried about it being a "current era shooter" instead of doom, just like you are crying about nuDoom now and being a nostalgiagay about doom 3.
It was a good game, but only if you didn't care about it not being doom.
We're talking about Doom 3 being more Doom than nudoom, which is 100% true
Is it 100% similar to old doom games?
No, but it sure is more similar than the nudoom games
>We're talking about Doom 3 being more Doom than nudoom, which is 100% true
not true, see
i liked doom 3 more than i wouldve otherwise *because* it was a doom game lol. it was cool as shit seeing all the monsters from my fav game in 3D and have ebic lore about uac and hell and its demons
i like doom 3 but its slow as FRICK, its absolutely not more faithful than nudooms you delusional contrarians. the worst you can say about nudooms is that its now an arena shooter which, while bad, doesnt exactly matter vs doom 3 which is a linear corridor shooter so both games have ass level design
sorry bud but i plated both doom12 and doom3 from the former ladder and doom 3 is just an evolution
you wanna try that again
samunai. sorry bud but i played both doom1/2 and doom 3 from the former to ladder and doom 3 is objectively better. More modern and evolved. while doom and doom eternal are tryhards and have nothing to do with doom1/2 but ok.
your absolutely horrid engrish aside we're not talking about which game is better, we're talking about which is more similar to original dooms. doom 3 is slow as frick to play, end of story
I get that being contrarían is a Ganker thing, but this level of contraríanism is silly.
Doom 3 is uncanny
>old good
>new bad
also
>smuggles in doom3
lmao
Doom 3 is a good game and also a good doom game
Why does this cuck think that chads like being submissive b***hes that despite their best efforts, can only manage to survive?
Wrong interpretation, it's about defying all odds that makes someone stand out, if you're an unstoppable le badass force of nature then there really isn't anything remarkable about the feats of the character
You wouldn't get it. John McClain in hell is impressive. He survives against impossible odds. A Marvel movie hero who can't die is boring and juvenile.
Simple as.
>Both games are awful goyslopfor numales
Poetry
>Predator is goyslop because there's black people in it
Touch grass.
no it's because it's shit
your brain works in embarrassing ways
>goyslop anno 1960
>goyslop anno 2010
>1960
I hate zoomers like you wouldn't believe
Hauntingly accurate
Don't say simple as you stupid bong
How come every time I see a gigachad OP on Ganker they're always peddling and shilling some moronic contrarian shit? Is this some sort of marketing campaign or psyop bullshit? No seriously this shit is clockwork, everytime this fricking face pops up its trying to sell me something
>you're a schizo that's not real
yeah I am but thats beside the point its real im telling you this is a marketing tactic
>shilling
>marketing
>for 30 year old games that anybody can play for free
you can still buy all the games in the image, some homosexuals here will not pirate anything and marketers know this.
if that's the case then why would they put newer titles in negative light? they are both more expensive and have much wider audience
It's well documented that companies like Microsoft leverage astroturfed RETVRN garbage to devalue current IPs and developers, making them easier to purchase. It doesn't matter if it's creating the perception that these games are shit, the end result is exactly what the suits want.
Microsoft already owns Id Software.
Your theory makes no Goddamn sense when Microsoft already owns all of these games.
Tortanic mentality and discord zoomers rot
It's just morons trolling and baiting for yous
Doom 3 sucks. It sucks now and it sucked when it was brand new. Farcry looked better, robbing it of all its thunder.
>moron jak
>OLD GOOD NEW BAD
>DOOM 3 good
>No DOOM 64
Fake fricking fan lol
Ftfy
Both of you Black folk are wrong
Finally someone who gets it
You can't like both sides. You have to die on one hill or the other, not enjoy the valley
This is the only good post.
this one gets second place.
I look like the guy on the top but play the games on the bottom
Only a homosexual would think that doom guy wasn't a badass in the original doom. If anything, you're more ruthless in the originals since you had to fight 100+ monsters per map. Sometimes more than half at the same time.
Considering monsters in original soon walk around like old grannies and can't even hit an attack on you if you just tap a strafe key, its not really "badass" if the demons are jobbers at the level of Night of the Living Dead zombies. Just go for a job and they can't catch you lmao.
>Soon
Doom*
>t. has never played a doom game on any difficulty above im too young to die
>T. Pretends like his dungeon crawler designed for people who never played an fps and literally used keyboards to aim is a hardcore game
Yeah, but that's not the point, the point is that the Doom reboot games force this "UBER MEGA BADASS" bullshit down your throat while the originals don't.
Old doomguy was a borderline satire of action movie heroes, either being a complete edgelord in quake 3s cut lines or a total schizo like in the comic. In the reboot game he just is an action movie hero
>doom 2016/eternal glory kills
>not being a complete edgelord
pain
Faster.
DOOM 3 has a bad shotgun
Therefore its a bad game
No i won't elaborate
Old DOOM is outdated garbage that are mostly played now by third worlders that have trouble running a game made past 2001
>webm
so modern doom is just quake?
Quake without strafe jumping, rocket jumping, fast movement, or fun.
>strafe jumping
Not required to win
>rocket jumping
Not required to win
>fast movement
Its slow
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>or fun.
Nothing fun about this dull forgettable game
>Not required to win
It's fun.
>Its slow
It's faster than Doom.
>Nothing fun
moron.
>It's faster than Doom.
Clearly looking at quake gameplay shows this isnt the case
>*generic basic opinion*
>They're both Shit
Based, morons will seethe because they know it's true.
How someone put Doom 3 with the classics down there is beyond me.
In ten years Ganker will praise Doom 2016 and Eternal with their lives while calling the new releases shit just watch
Maybe. Zoomies are strange when it comes to this.
I played Doom 3 when it came out and I thought it was mediocre. Especially
Sure it was spooky back then but the novelty wore off pretty quick and it didn't felt like Doom @ all.
The classics on the other end score even higher nowadays with all the TCs and other mods/full games!
*compared to FarCry
See these two.
And who gives a crap what the Nu devs think?!
It terms of FPSs it was mediocre back then.
I terms of Doom it's got nothing to do with it and won't come close to the classics.
Nothing will ever come close to 90s FPSs!
picrel whipped the floor with it btw. Replaying it @ the moment.
It's only zoomies making these arguments of old = good, new = bad
contrarians are braindead
During eternals launch some of them were even trying to shill that shitty Doom 4 that was going to be a CoD clone
Because Doom 3 was always good and I'm tired of pretending it isn't. Even the 2016 and Eternal fans acknowledge it's a good game. The only contrarians here are you frick sticks.
Shit, I meant to say developers, not fans. Typo.
Doom 3 was and still is a sweetass game
>Even the 2016 and Eternal devs acknowledge it's a good game
Source?
Btw Doom 3 is better than HL2
Nu doom is awful. Gets repetitive and the gimmick wears off quickly.
Real image
The market changed.
Doom 3 2 is out, LETS FRICKING GO!
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Doom (2016) was flawed, but Eternal is a masterpiece like the old games. Stop trying to get clout on an anonymous board.
>gays are now nostalgic about Doom 3.
Yeah I remember how you all shat on it on release for being different..
I always liked it though. And also quake 4.
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The graphics didn't looked good even back then.
Well at least we got TDM out of it.
>Graphics didn't looked good
Anon you know shit of 2003-2004
Sure about that?!
I got my 1st Desktop @ the end of '03 and the the 1 GB RAM upgrade+6600GT half a year later.
HL2 and especially FEAR looked better.
picrel
Believe what you want.
I released reached Interval 3 and yeah...The shotty is sooooo satisfying.
Doom 3 Dynamic Shadows, Lights and Lightmaps were so damn good that Creative patented the damn thing for a decade until it expired and became public dominion.
No other games at that time could pull out what idtech 3 could do, and HL2 and FEAR had a giant visual nerf post launch.
>idtech3
Idtech 4
It still looks great. TDM has some tweaks I believe.
However they delivered a fantastic game with it.
Maybe it's just the artstyle. Dunno. Shit was almost 20 years ago.
Speaking of technical stuff I only ever remember that Bump Mapping, Shader Model 3.0 & FXAA used to be big att.
Depends on the how you (or others) ought to define 'old'.
I guess that's his point. Doom shouldn't have a story @ all.
Duke Nukem has a plot more thicc...
doom has always had a story
eternal also does the story better than both 3 and 2016, by which i mean how little it interrupts the gameplay. dont care about its quality
>by which i mean how little it interrupts the gameplay
impressive, very nice
now lets look at how much unskippable cutscene there is in 2016
Didn't played 2016 and I skipped all cutscenes in Eternal.
Maybe I'll play it on my Deck.
>always had a story.
Yeah... In form of wee textboxes which you received as a reward.
I had a 15" TFT but later exchanged it for a 19" CRT b4 i got my 1st 16:9 in '08.
I remember that the models in Chaos Theory had blurry lines+the res on the CRT was higher.
>1024x768 vs 1280×960
picrel
>Yeah... In form of wee textboxes which you received as a reward.
2016 has unskippable cutscenes a la hl2 and 3 is the most story-heavy game of the bunch. there has been doom games since the sprite era you know
Carmack also made sure the game would shine under CRT Screens so it was the last hooray of the old, since LCD screens and later LED made the light and shadows look washed up.
t.larper
you will never fit in
Commit suicide.
doom (2) is my favourite game and all the doom games are great. 3 doesnt belong with the 2.5D games btw theyre absolutely nothing alike
theres nothing wrong with having fun lmao which the nudooms (eternal especially) are, you some kind of gay?
>Doom 3
>Good
I fricking hate zoomers, especially larping zoomers
so you hate yourself ??
Frick zoom zoom. Just because Doom 3 is old doesn't mean it fits with the other games
>Doom
cringe af
Because old morons set in their ways and afraid of change would criticize anything new anyway and would rather play doom wads so why cater to them in the first place? The objective is to sell a game to as many people as possible.
The only thing you can confidently say about doom3 is that it was a great technical achievement for its time. There was nothing like it.
For lighting sure, but Half Life 2 and Halo 2 came out a few months later and utterly mogged it
I like the original Doom, but I like playing Duke Nukem 3d more.
i feel like duke3d has pretty bad level design, while being fully aware that inferno exists
pb is better but honestly i play smooth doom most of the time cus i think using pb on a map you havent played before ruins the experience
Oh I agree, I've played through doom episodes 1-3 and doom TWID with just smooth doom. Didn't really enjoy TFC. However doom 2 is one I just have to play with PB because it's fun going through the city levels with a big arsenal of weapons and such. A lot of fun.
Speaking of doom. I like playing with smooth doom but I rarely dip into project brutality.
You guys prefer PB or BD (brutal doom)?
2016 was okay.
KEK, when I play a horror game and find myself getting too spooked, i will shout out the whole "your locked in here with me" line as i beat the shit out of whatever the frick while in battle.
OPs image made me audibly laugh
doom 3 wins the prize for having the weakest sounding shotgun in any game ever
Thinking Doom 3 is good is peak contrarian
I dont know how well doom 3 holds up today due to having played it on release year but I have a feeling it doesn't really. So I always assume these posts shitting on Doom 3 from the perspective of being "contrarian" are youngn's
>Objective survive
>Old Doom
How say you're a zoomer, without saying you're a zoomer
I think it's a consequences of playing as a kid and being fricking shit at the game.
>pony
sorry "latter"
ok but i am eop and doom3 is nothing like quake or whatever, it trying to be its own thing and still becomes a cult classic. while doom and doom eternal are just tryhards.
:^)
concession accepted
Doom 3 sucks ass, I really hate this moronic revisionism.
Cant take eternal seriously which i know isnt the point, but the story lost any tension because of the reveal of the DOOM slayer being prophesized to kill satan or someshit in the DLC. I liked the idea that he was just a normal soldier doing what he can to survive and shit like OG dooms but i guess i have a bias for these kind of protagonists like picrel
>caring about story in doom
i liked doom 3's serviceable story
idk why they tried to make eternal have some deep lore when it was just a glorified demon arena shooter
i laugh at people whos main complaints about nudooms are anything but gameplay-related. try not to swallow your tongue
Didnt say anything about the gameplay, gameplay is alright since i liked Doom 2016. If you want a complaint out of me for the gameplay, the stone imps in the DLC needing a specific weapon to realistically take out is a dumb mechanic
DOOM 3 was always fricking bad, you homosexuals don't deserve your (you)s
Are people still pretending DOOM 1/2 are hard? Maybe if you played them at the time of release and had no experience with FPS games but by now they're crazy easy even on max difficulty.
nobody here has said og dooms are hard
You are making up a strawman, Nobody literally ever said old Doom was hard
>crazy easy even on max difficulty.
although i bet you havent beaten any of them in nightmare
doom1/2 and wolfenstein are just corridor simulators, you can stop now israelites.
>ADHD
The first games play way faster
I think most people can agree that the later games, while doomguy doesn't move as quick. is more intense to play requiring more input. That's probably what it's referring to
i played doom 2016 and it bored me. the level design was ass and there wasn't enough combat
Eternal is basically a direct upgrade from 2016, at least it shouldn't leave you bored. Going schizo maybe