Why did boomers obsess over a scrapped feature? I mean they always shit and piss their pants whenever they talk about stop n swop.
Why did boomers obsess over a scrapped feature?
Why did boomers obsess over a scrapped feature? I mean they always shit and piss their pants whenever they talk about stop n swop.
Secrets nowadays are instantly datamined, ruining the mystery
An incompletel/unrealized secret like Stop 'n' Swop remains a mystery until the developers blab
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This. Games used to have fun secrets and unused data that would go undiscovered for years. Now everything is datamined the moment it comes out. It's cool that we can now uncover every nook and cranny of a game's code, but there is value in a bit of mystery.
I'm not going to waste my time having serious discussion with a zoomer, this guy already blew you out anyways
Lol. Anyone remember when crash team racing NF was still being updated and people would find files for the new characters before they were revealed? They actually started giving the character files red herring names after a while.
Lack of information made it more mysterious and it felt like an adventure to find out more about secrets and unfinished content, especially when they tease it in game but don't actually tell you how to access it
Zoomers BTFO
banjo is such a shallow, hollow game with so little going on in it that playing it is just as mind numbing as talking about the actual content of the game. There's nothing there that's interesting so the only hope is that this scrapped feature is going to be of any prominence and might be the salvation this awful game needs. Tooie also sucked so that helped.
No one knew it wasn't gonna result in anything, it was a fun and interesting mystery back then.
>ice key
banjo lore is deepest lore
Stop N Swop, the two unused jiggies, and the Fungus Forest picture where the kind of things that would spark the imagination as to what secrets were still hidden in the game.
-if you beat the game, mumbo says you missed some secret shit
-if you 100% the game, mumbo shows you secret items in secret areas you can't get
-this drove players crazy
-gameshark exists
-gameshark code for L to levitate becomes a thing
-players levitate through the ice cave ceiling and grab the ice key. it has a secret song and adds a secret menu
-hackers find secret sandcastle codes for more secret eggs
-no one knows what stop n swop is for
-rare only likes to tease and never gives straight answers
-nintendo power even publishes the secret codes hackers found not knowing whats going on, and normies find out
but yeah, it was literally a stop and swap the cartridges
years later they even found the egg addresses on boot and what the games look for
Were any of the eggs actually accessible without cheats?
I remember seeing the codes online and shitting myself with excitement but only the code to open the island actually worked
They all worked for me. They're easy to frick up though because they're so fricking long.
there was a rumor you can glitch into sharkfood island if swimming at a certain angle
but at that point the codes were found
You could clip into the Sand door iirc.
I played that game a lot and never got any eggs. you only see them in cutaways where it's showing you things that exist but that you couldn't actually get in the game. I think it's only with codes that you can access them.
No. The whole idea was that later Rare games would tell you the codes to enter in the Sand Castle to let you collect the eggs and ice key, and then you would Stop'n'Swop to unlock things in the newer games.
The only other way to get them would be to abuse glitches or use actual cheats aka gameshark.
what did the eggs do?
when BK and BT released on the XBLA they were carried over from BK to BT and unlocked extra goodies, most of which you should have gotten by beating the game. iirc Rare just said the N64 games would transfer shit over to DK64 etc
Naturally, everyone assumed that Stop n Swop was to unlock secrets in Tooie. Then they found a string of text in DK64's data that referenced the Ice Key, so a lot of people speculated that it was also connected to DK (which was true).
Years and years later, Rare revealed that Stop n Swop was actually intended to unlock content in many different games. It never happened and for whatever reason no one thought to just do the same thing with the save pak.
I remember back in the day people speculated that Stop n Swop was intended for an early Gameboy version of Grunty's Revenge, but I don't think there's anything to back that up.
Nintendo slapped their shit and told them to stop when they heard about it. They were afraid of kids damaging their games or consoles.
It was all moot anyway as the hardware quirk it exploited ended up being fixed in later revisions, so Stop'n'Swop would've never worked on later N64s.
Zoomer anon I'm sorry you grew up in an age where there are no secrets in games other than ones that require your mother's credit card to purchase.
Game lore kino
What was a crazy "that kid"-tier secret that actually WAS real?
Missingno and getting infinite items in Pokemon
The Hadouken in Mega Man X
I used to play Shining Force on the Sega Smash Pack for PC back in the day, and a kid at school told me about the 'secret jellyfish fighter' and I thought he was being a stupid butthole but yeah there totally was an obnoxiously out-of-the-way jellyfish character with awesome ice magic
You get a special item if you do 100 super jumps in a row in Super Mario RPG
So, in this GBC monster collector game called MagiNation, the strongest monster, called the Ormagon, has the following steps to get it:
>Start a new file
>Ignore all npcs in the starting area, rush to the second area and talk to a specific NPC. Talking to any other NPC before him may make him despawn
>When you take a ferry later, pay the ferryman extra to stay behind
>Search around the following area for algae, then return without completing the dungeon
>Go to the area the NPC told you to and bring him the algae
>After completing that dungeon, but before progressing the story further, return to the starting town, then run five counterclockwise circles around a head, then talk to its left eye
>If you did it properly, a door opened with some fungicide nearby
>Go buy a specimen jar
>Use the ferry now, and look around for a patch of white fungus on the ground, then use the specimen jar on it
>Give it to a plant collecting kid in the starting town
>Progress to near the end of the game
>That kid and his house are now overgrown by fungus
>Use the fungicide, and collect the dead fungus from the kid's body
>Return to where you collected the fungus, use the fungicide again, and walk through the wall
>Then use the dead fungus, and the Ormagon will spawn and the fight will start
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Even worse is the Core Hyren, the second strongest monster in the game.
>Rare encounter in a specific screen of the final dungeon
>Basically a boss fight, but you have to fight it three times to get the material needed to craft its summon ring
>But the other material comes from the Bolt Hyren
>To this day, it is unknown if it's possible to encounter the Bolt Hyren without hacking
These both seem like they were designed to be gags rather than legitimate secrets
The former maybe.
The latter is the main monster used by the main antagonists, and was probably a coding oversight, due to every other Hyren being some flavor of "rare encounter in a particular area" (with the other regions' Hyrens being in hidden areas), and the area the Bolt Hyren would be in having multiple entire screens where encounters can't happen.
Oh, well that's more explicable.
And the community for the game isn't large or autistic enough to actually dig through and find out.
less classic, but the fact that you can play an entire remastered HD PC port of Timesplitters 2 inside of Homefront: The Revolution (which is currently 3.99 on steam). There's even a mod that will extract Timesplitters 2 and make it playable externally so you don't have to play that terribly sub-par game.
KH1 is full of weird, smaller secrets that sound like made up bullshit.
>hit the clock in the green room several times for a treasure chest to show up
>if you do worlds out of order you can see different cutscenes for certain events, such as doing Monstro after Hollow Bastion, that all have different voice lines
>if you visit the clock tower at different in game hours, a different door will have a light over it that gives you various items
>you can leave a large number of boss fights with the only downside being their health will reset
>going back to the rabbit hole from the bizarre room will have you fight waves of heartless that gives you a treasure chest. Do it again after clearing Hollow Bastion to get another chest
>extinguishing the Olympus colloseum fires with Blizzara and Blizzaga gives different rewards
>NPC dialogue in Wonderland changes after rescuing Alice in Hollow Bastion, nothing tells you this
I feel like in general there's always something new to discover if you just play the game normally.
Unlocking Mewtwo in Melee by leaving the game on for 20 hours
what do the eggs taste like?
Canadian Smarties.
N64 rumor culture was a big thing to obsess about on the Internet, particularly early 3D because they had odd quirks and seemingly pointless things in their level design, usually because they didn't remove stuff properly in the beta development. Kind of like the Mario 64 creepypastas of today, they stemmed into a thing for similar reasons.
it was fun. my dad and i would look online for answers. So much speculation since the internet was new. i remember we were able to figure out that theres 11 jiggies in click clock woods
The mystique behind it was enough, and Tooie was already coming down the pipe. That's how you hype a sequel.
because I was nine years old and spent a whole lot of time trying to collect all the stop n swop items and getting really excited about the potential and even called the nintendo support hotline on my famile's landline phone only for the very polite customer service lady to look it up and sadly tell me that it was a 'cut feature' and it broke my little frickin heart because again, in case it was not clear, I was just a little kid and videogames were my whole world.
>Le Boomers shit and piss because of 90's game
I mean at least you zoomies are making it easy to weed you out. Here's a (YOU) homosexual
honestly kazooie openly ogling a porno mag with a cigar is kind of hot
Anon you're talking to the same people who pendulum-swing so hard they think seeing a fleck of bare skin and appreciating it means you should drop everything you're doing and go jack off to porn and come back because CLEARLY you're just freaking out and being a CUH-RAZY PORN ADDICT all of the place! It's literally the same homosexuals who think we actually freaked out about the small little things in 90s games that gave us just minor extra joy. But no they gotta twist and pervert it to make it sound like any enjoyment is forbidden. Frick those homosexuals. Don't respond to them.
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Stop n Swop 1 is so yesterday. What the hell did they have planned for Stop n Swop 2?
Not certain, but pretty confident the three metal eggs were used for their intended purpose of unlocking vehicle parts in N&B.
Still made the fully working devil bottles coop mode wasn't enabled for tooie on xbla.
>why do zoomers obsess over a scrapped feature?
>Lore important character is somehow the same as some extra collectables in a cereal mascot collectathon
>lore important
>not actually implemented
lol
>nooo it's hecking intended, not that tobert is a hack! two more weeks until deltarune part 3 just you wait
Oh man, come on. Zoomers are the generation that watch these "hidden/scrapped assets in videogames!" videos the most.
Zoomers wouldn't understand, because games these days no longer have secrets and mysteries. Everything is datamined day -1
I played this game a lot as a kid. It was so mysterious. I never got 100% but I got close. You kids wouldn't understand. In those days you couldn't just go to leddit and type "show me all the secrets in this game RIGHT NOW!!!!". You actually had to figure it out or buy a strategy guide. This game in particular, even if you did everything in the game, there were sill more items and secrets and mysterious things that just made you keep wondering what they were for. There were secrets that existed in this game that had no real purpose except that they were there. You had to have inside knowledge too to know what codes to enter. I didn't even know you could get the ice key at the time. It was only when I watched a youtube video a year or so ago that I discovered it was possible.
Banjo was never good.