Why did Dark Souls 2 get so much undeserved hate in 2014?
>Most flushed-out RPG mechanics out of the entire trilogy... greater emphasis on builds and open-endedness rather than just being a 100% action-oriented experience.
>Beautiful (albeit disjointed) world design, especially in the DLC.
>Improvements to gameplay which were adopted into later titles (power-stancing, estus shards, etc...)
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>flushed-out
Let the replies teach you the importance of spell checking.
Your game is shit and you smell like shit
In this thread we list things Dark Souls 2 did that were far better than Dark Souls 3. I'll start:
>No bonfire and no death challenge where you can beat the game without resting at a bonfire or dying to gain a reward and bragging rights
>Non-linear first half of the game allows you to rush straight to the areas of the game that contain the items for your build
>Chugging Estus immobilizes you, and the heal isn't instantaneous meaning trying to chug while someone is sticking close to you will result in death
>Stamina regeneration is tied to weight, so a character at 10% burden will recover their bar faster than a character at 70% burden, giving an advantage and a reason to make a low burden character
>Poise exists and armor provides relevant, but not overpowering damage reduction, giving an advantage and a reason to make a high burden character
>Phantoms and Dark Spirits cannot chug estus, spirits can only heal via spell useage which is slow. This makes fighting outnumbered even without mob assistance possible since any damage you do sticks
>Can only perform four rolls before running out of stamina
>Can only perform 5 attacks of a rapier or straight sword before running out of stamina
>Parrying has longer recovery frames and consumes more stamina, making parry fishing riskier and makes parrying require higher skill
>Power stance allowing for unique combinations of dual wielding and unlocking an alternative moveset for weapons
>Being able to use the full moveset of a weapon in your off-hand including running, rolling, backstepping, etc. attacks rather than just being able to do a basic R1 swing and blocking with the weapon as it is in Ds3 (lmao who would ever want to weapon block)
>Bell Tower covenant providing two unique optional areas to PvP for Titanite Chunks, Slabs, and Twinkling, making farming for upgrades fun
>Bonfire ascetics to replay bosses you like and or gain items from NG+ and beyond without grinding through the whole game again
You forgot by far the best and most fleshed out NG+ in the entire series and FROMSOFT hasn't even attempted to get close to that level of effort since.
You went out of your way to lure, trigger and record this and the cleanrot knight in Elden Ring, when Shart Souls 2 has caster placed exactly to shoot through walls
nta
okay I will spend my time to discuss this with you as it's the other fun part of our hobby apart from playing
>challenges
bro pls, only 1% cares about that and the other 5% are just viewers, you can do these runs in any game if you really want to, the whole point of it is imposing your own rules
>non-linear
it doesn't mean good automatically, I like linear parts or even whole linear games. If you know the game to such extent that u know where to get your main build items then it's not a problem in ds3 as well, not an argument while using guides, potentially u can just get it faster in ds2
>estus mobility
it feels a lot better in ds3 comparing to ds2 clunkiness, also matches ds3 dynamic. Making things harder without reason is the worst thing in ds2 so this argument of difficult estus drinking is just digging it deeper, disagree
>stamina regen per weight
good idea yea
>poise
I know it's complicated but it exist in ds3 too, I never cared about it but yea it's probably done better in ds2
>phantoms no estus
happy that ds3 phantoms use them, it's balanced enough and can make for some kino moments, dont agree
>x amount of actions per stamina
you can type these numbers in every stamina based game and it varies per build, what's your point here? u praise less cause its more difficult and...? more impactful? more annoying too. more options based on build is better
>parry is more risky
parry in souls is already a huge risk, making it even harder, again, doesn't make it better. frick parry btw just roll and punish instead of guessing and training reactions (imagine lol), its only really useful in a few instances
>power stance
good but overrated, a lot of combinations have the same animations which makes it pointless in the end. good option anyway it should be in ds3
>offhand moveset
yea it should be implemented as well, however blocking in the last second with a dual handed greatsword is pure kino, weapon blocking is fun
nomore space wont doublepost
drinking estus isn't even supposed to be something that "feels good." It's moronic and easy in ds3
>Making things harder without reason
doesn't mean anything
>No bonfire and no death challenge where you can beat the game without resting at a bonfire or dying to gain a reward and bragging rights
lmao what's the reward? a badge that confirms your virginity was protected? I didn't read the rest.
you know a game or something is bad when your whole argument for defending it it's attacking others and using whataboutism, dark souls 2 is a piece of trash, the end
DS1gays could no longer spamroll their way to victory.
>Most flushed-out
How apt for this turd of a game
The fanbase.
>pic
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I had no idea where I was going or what I was doing. The world just felt low quality. Never bothered to beat it
bargain bin Dark Souls
You forget you’re in shitpost central
There’s a large population that comes to this board that literally does not play games
Stick around long enough and it becomes glaringly obvious
>empty halls and corridors of flat textures everywhere
>nothing makes any fricking sense in terms of layout or function
>beautiful world design
lmao
It released between DaS1, which was beloved and considered a kind of new golden standard, and Bloodborne, which was a next-gen stand-out that distanced itself enough from the previous games to really grab attention. Maybe DaSII would've been better received if it had lived up to the hype or even simply been made for next gen like Bloodborne so that they wouldn't have to redo the lighting but ultimately it just wasn't able to really shine under the circumstances it was released in.
it's frompiggyslop
Dark Souls 2 is bad
>Sekiro below DS3
kino bait my homie
>Counting AC6
>BB below ER
My jimmies have been thoroughly rustled thanks homosexual
There's only one way to play SSDT and if you suck at playing that way the game filters you hard
t. filtered by Genichiro
It's impressive how wrong someone can be
I liked DeS, 1, 2, BB, Sekiro. Imo 3 is the only shit game (haven't played ER yet). I also had Evergrace, Tenchu z and Chrome Hounds before Fromsoft became a household brand.
DaS3 BAD
DaS2 GOOD
Pretending to like bad games does NOT make you look cool. Touch grass, have sex.
Nobody is pretending.
Main game feels like a disjoined Super Mario adventure through different themed zones and the levels/bosses themselves are pretty shit too.
Also not leveling ADP = game sucks dick
>Why did Dark Souls 2 get so much undeserved hate in 2014?
Same reason Elden Ring still gets daily hate threads.
DS2 was a good game that mindbroke autismo schizos.
well, i was there in the pc release
it was fricking broken
it stayed broken for some good time too
Also I don't think any build has been fricked as hard as DaSII Faith builds. Absolutely fricking destroyed.
>undeserved hate
It was deserved. Bad level design, shit bosses, terrible encounter design, non existentant lore. it fails at everything a souls game should be
The biggest filter in souls trilogy, shitters could no longer spam roll
this. i'm a dude who prefers "sword and shield no rolling allowed"
i'm suffering in Elden Ring because once again in souls, there's an objective way to play. the same "no shield, 2handed sword, roll everywhere"
Dark Souls 2 gave me actual options. Starting classes were all viable.
>undeserved
It's a terrible game.
up ye go
I don't get it, what's the issue with this webm?
too much empty space, one enemy type, not enough enemies, easy, boring and predictable
Okay.
DS2 doesn't look like that, it doesn't even have a claymore like that
people latch on to names and this one didn't have muh miyazaki
But Elden Ring has the DS2 guy in charge too
>o-oh well in t-that case elden ring... le bad!
>undeserved hate in 2014
what's with the gaslighting, the game had pretty good reception when it came out
https://www.metacritic.com/game/dark-souls-ii/
even on Ganker it had constant discussions for years with minimal shittalking. None of this overwhelming negativity that we have now. Like most people would agree that DaS1 was better but that didn't mean DaS2 still wasn't a pretty fricking good video game
it wasn't until much later when le youtube video essays started to go viral and popularized shitting on the game
now that I think about it, DaS2 is the Prequels of souls
fricking this
>Dark Souls 2
>hate in 2014
What? In 2014 we were all in agreeance that Dark Souls 2 was a great game for its time, just bad in the series. It scratched the itch we all had a bit. It wasn't until we were flooded with soulsclones that could scratch the itch that everyone started to actually hate on it.
Everyone, even Ganker, loved DaS2 until some youtube troony made a video saying DaS2 le bad and then suddenly Gankeredditors all over the place parroted the troony.
Which is better OG or Scholar?
Scholar. The encounter design is harder and makes more sense and the lighting is good.
>undeserved
>undeserved
DS2 trannies deserve the rope
Having interesting gameplay improvements doesn't detract from the game itself being absolute shite to play.
ds3troons
people who say it plays like shit are always just shit at the game
It's impossible to be shit at the game, it's easiest after DeS.
I've watched people be shit at the game and you dont get to pretend it's suddenly easy after 10 years of seething. stfu
Kek, you just outed yourself that you think it's hard. Explains a lot hahaha.
It is hard. Which souls game could be harder than this? You cant even iframe through fogwalls. All you people do is complain about ganks and this "artificial difficulty" and that. You dont make it sound like an easy game.
It's also the easiest dark souls. The ideas behind the gameplay are fine, the execution is boring, uninspired slop
>lightning bullshots
>Shit bosses
>Shit lore
>Shit movement
>Super Mario lava castle in a wrong place
>Just in general bad coding and lazy world and level design
Dark Souls 2 the worst From Soft game but still better than 99% of games out there
>Dark Souls 2 the worst From Soft game
not even close, dipshit
I blame Matthewmatosis personally
Doesn't mean he ain't wrong
I think there were still temporary items there that you could get weekly in the basement of Majula's house.
Reminder that all DS2 haters are merely parroting Asmongold, they never even played the game.
People that never played Demon's couldn't understand that the game is something else entirely.
I like all soulsbornes but Majula will always be the best hub and the king reveal the kinoest of kinos.
>Damn... this game bad...
>What if I said... GAME GOOD
>undeserved