Why did edgy, gritty anti-heroes disappear from gaming?
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they didn't
pre-emptive baited everyone award
>Everything that disagrees with me is bait.
Frick you moronic zoomer. Arthur is a certified gangsta. especially when I'm playing as him.
Not in the story he isnt, hes a paragon for all aspiring highwaymen saints
Prescient
Micah is the only one in that game who feels like a real unapologetic outlaw from the old west.
Edgy tourists suck off Micah because they don't play videogames. If they did, they'd realize Micah is just a psychopathic moron and an actual, literal incel. He tried raping Sadie at that house because none of the women in the group will touch him.
>hey guys look what I saw on re-
Go back.
>He tried raping Sadie
Did she coom?
>>hey guys look what I saw on re-
>Go back.
Frick off homosexual. That isn't to be used in just any random instance and it makes you look like you are a newbie trying to look like you aren't, despite this being an anonymous image board. There is a difference between having gone to reddit once and being a regular user of reddit, who is of reddit. You could have been in reddit before and not of it. When you just randomly fling out "go back" and such things like this, the original point, and meaning, are lost.
Holy esl Batman
Go back, homosexual
I literally never go there. My point isn't to defend reddit. newbies come here, see people say things, don't know the point, use, or meaning of any of it, but they believe that if they parrot what they see, they will fit in and be "le ebin Gankerner". This is absolutely something that happens here, and it does in fact harm the quality of this baord, and the site as a whole. When enough newbies are just parroting, eventually, the original point of what is being parroted is lost, and void of meaning, furthermore it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy of people reinforcing that "we just repeat this thing because we just do here", and others do repeat it because of that, people end up believing that is the extent of it.
I'm just posting in the hopes that anyone who is just parroting stops, and approaches this place actually trying to understand it, and if you are someone who really gives a damn about this place beyond a superficial level, I don't think you should have an issue with this at all, it's simply a matter of honesty. Tell me I'm wrong.
So are you going to piss off back to gaygit or are you going to cry some more?
>frick off fa-ACK!
Go back. Using reddit for any reason other than "it's the only site that showed up in a search for an issue that had any actual information" means you do not belong here.
>go to resetera if you don't want to feed my delusions
1. I said I don't use it (I don't).
>Using reddit for any reason other than "it's the only site that showed up in a search for an issue that had any actual information" means you do not belong here.
I don't necessarily disagree with that, but if you are saying that if you dare click a link to reddit or something like that, that you "need to go back", and you "don't belong here", then you render it just a meaningless thing that people just repeat because they see others say it and want to fit in. Again, it's ultimately just a matter of honesty and I think my posts are thus utterly innocuous if you aren't seeing into them something that's not there.
If you deliberately go to reddit "because the hospital won't let me go to Ganker", as was the claim that started the conversation, you absolutely don't belong here and need to go back. Doubly so if your visit to reddit is "the first time in ages", which not just implies, but explicitly confirms that you are indeed a user of the site.
I'm not the anon that did.
I already said I don't go to reddit. Cope and seethe.
>If they did, they'd realize Micah is just a psychopathic moron and an actual, literal incel.
Ah, so he's what an actual Outlaw is. Rather than the idealized bullshit Arthur was.
No he’s a moronic murder hobo that just goes around killing and not prioritizing getting money or robbing people. That’s not an outlaw that’s a psychopath. You gays only like him because he says darkie and is “le ebin based”.
>No he’s a moronic murder hobo
So he’s a realistic outlaw?
Read a book and stop repeating yourself, most outlaws weren’t committing massacres on the regular.
So what you're saying is, you're a total zoomer who doesn't know what an outlaw is and go on some cringelord shit you picked up here.
So you're saying you don't understand what a rhetorical "You" means. Basic English conversational speech, it is.
>He tried raping Sadie at that house
Would've been a better story than what we got.
>look how edgy and cool I am haha I have a RAPE fetish take that mom
Come back when you're 18.
>getting this triggered over rape
grow up moron lmao
>y-you're le TRIGGERED XD
We get it, you're nostalgic for 2014 when that meme wasn't played out and boring. Nobody thinks you're epic and cool for jerking to rape. If anything you're a tryhard kid.
trying too hard
Imma kill them people being racist or sexist in 1890s!
You can kill blacks and women in the game and Arthur wont care hes a representation of the player
Im talking about arthurs actions in cut scenes, which are a clearer indication of his character than player actions seeing as its a linear story
Fair enough but thats a general problem in rockstar games. Ive never seen CJ or Niko kill innocent people in cutscenes and both of them are supossed to be criminals
CJ did kill that reporter trying to bust Tenpenny, although that was only because Tenpenny would have his brother in prison killed if he didn't do dirty work.
Meanwhile you can't wield weapons in Native American territory, and have to listen to their sermons about how me evil white man robbed their land.
>You cant kill your allies
Yeah no shit cupcake. You cant canonicly kill any of your friends in GTA games. Notice of you could kill natives in RDR1 cause they were enemies
I'm so tired of this disigenuous rebuttal
>only NA in the game just happen to be your allies so you can't kill them
more like
newbie here, can anyone give me the link to this thread? Looks interesting hope its not dead
>me evil white man robbed their land
but they did
That whole girlboss shit was ridiculous mostly because she behaved exactly like fricking Micah, pointlessly rude, putting others in danger due to her spazzing out over something, resorting to violence immediatelly.
Yet Micah is treated like the worst piece of shit alive (I don't fully disagree but that's not the point) while Abigail is praised as some sort of hero, hailed as if she's a shining example of what a person should be.
It wouldn't be so jarring if the whole gang was basically these opportunistic borderline sociopath thugs, except they're mostly various shade of moralgays.
It makes zero sense that any of them would be happy having this absolute butthole in the camp just like with Micah, yet nobody says shit.
Surprise, surprise, people had empathy for their fellow man back in the 1890's. We weren't all violently racist until the 1960s, and then suddenly the government turned on the tolerance switch in our brains, and we all got along.
Grandpa that game is 10 years old
>I dunno, Dutch, I reckon if'in a feller wants to cut his pecker off and become a woman, SHE can. Who am I to judge?
Hell I reckon it’s her turn
Didn’t he just die last night at age 62 due to stomach cancer or something?
I love Arthur. How the frick is he edgy?
The joke is that despite the setting the main characters are deathly afraid to be racist or sexist in any real fashion.
>it was the wild west so it should be literally /misc/ and everyone should be spewing slurs every other word
This is what replacing education with schizophrenic politics boards does to a homie. Seek help.
like how much old west media where people go around acting like that is there really
john ford directed a film about a black cavalry sergeant who successfully clears his name from false rape and murder charges, never see anyone make a stink about that
wait i thought america was racist and bigoted up until ww2 and current year ?
I know this is bait but does anyone have that greentext of Arthur killing people and constantly questioning what he's doing to Dutch?
LMAO, what? He's the biggest moralgay there is. Fricking Marston is more edgy than him
>racist appears
>"YOU CANT BE RACIST BIGOT"
bullshit. Arthur is as noble as it gets. John on the other hand was a borderline sociopath in Red Dead 1.
How? It's been a bit since I played 1, but John just seemed aloof to everything or at least did his best to stay out of other's business
Arthur wouldn't be roped into fighting a fricking war and would call out the Mexican's bullshit a few missions in. John had no fricks given helping soldiers rape and kill people until they betrayed him in the end
>John on the other hand was a borderline sociopath in Red Dead 1.
homie we play the same game?
Red Dead Redemtion 2 was 6 years ago anon.
>the van der lindge gang is explicitly a bunch of outcasts from society
>dutch is basically larping as an ecoterrorist
>people are still surprised when the group of outcasts do not represent societal norms of the time
pkm
someone post it
you know the one
Hell I reckon these /misc/tards never smelled a whiff of pussy in all their miserable lives.
arthur is such a do gooder hes not even an anti-hero even though hes literally the enforcer for a notorious gang
I love arthur :3
this is how I see it, sadly these people are basically moronic so they'll keep posting the same dumbass shit for the forseeable future
bait of the year
anyone who says "chud" below this post is a seething resetera troon
Anybody using that word without ever seeing the movie it came from is not an actual human being IMO
play jack's game moron wojak poster
Shadow's gonna bring us back. Just you wait and see.
Year of the Shadow
I kneel
Poor shadow. He was minding his DAMN business eating some DAMN fruit
Because for some reason, at some point, gamers lost the ability to empathize or insert into any protagonist that wasn't exactly like them. And considering modern gamers are soft, effeminate, politically correct numales who consider holding a strong opinion to be toxic masculinity, and who use pop culture in place of a personality, and short sarcastic quips in place of dialogue, that's what heroes have become.
Gone are the days where we wanted to be the badasses we saw in games, now people want the badasses in games to be just as pathetic and weak as they are.
fpbp
/thread
Anon, seek help.
Dyscalculia is a serious problem.
those aren't posts, they're bait
Said good.
You are an example of what your speak of and don't even know it.
I hate the culture war and those who perpetuate it.
>You cannot call me a hypocrite because I did the thing where I draw you ugly!!
I hate Americans so fricking much
he's not really a hypocrite though. while his post may be a bit hyperbolized and ascerbic, he's clearly taken a step back from things before and tried to use logic to deduce why things are the way they are now.
I was more commenting on the use of the "You can't say both sides are bad you have to pick my side" image. It's something I see more and more online in relation to the culture. No one is allowed to examine anything, they have to pick a team and stick to them without question otherwise they're a spineless fence sitter.
that's fair, that shit is very annoying and counterintuitive to open discussion.
>No one is allowed to examine anything
You centrists don't "examine" anything. You automatically and outright reject both sides, despite the fact that one side clearly STARTED this whole fricking mess in the first place. Instead of rejecting the initiating, instigating and dominating force (political correctness, feminism, DEI, ESG), you reject the resistant force too because... you just heckin do okay?! I don't understand you Black folk. Never will.
>because... you just heckin do okay?
NTA but it's because your resistance on them is based on your religion first and foremost - regardless if you have any other good reasons. It's the same reason no one normal accepts views of muslims on women.
>because your resistance on them is based on your religion first and foremost
Based on what, moron?
Also Islam os right about women.
You're abrahamic. Every actively "anti-left" person is. It doesn't matter if you're right or not, this is the reason you won't be listened to.
>your religion
I don't have a religion. I like sexy women and I like video games. I want to play video games without being preached at and belittled. I don't like men being subverted to raise the status of women. I don't like race being shoved in my face, especially when there's a clear bias toward a specific race. I like what I like, and the industry is now fully occupied by creators who don't like what I like and don't like me. It makes me bitter and resentful. And when I see people like you and
Who say "Yeah? Well you're bad too!" I resent you as well.
>You centrists
Immediately proving my point. I'm not a centrist but you're consumed by tribalism so anyone that isn't frothing at the mouth for their side needs to be put in the "other" group.
>feminism and political correctness started out of no where and were the instigators
You are utterly moronic and completely unable to examine your own ideas. Regardless of what you think of those movements you'd have to be lying or dropped on the head as a child to believe that
>feminism and political correctness started out of no where and were the instigators
This is unironically true though.
Anon, women literally could not vote. Even if you hate modern feminism you'd have to have skipped every history class ever to pretend women had no reason to do that. Same with black people and the gays. Their current pushes are reactions to decades of thinking they were being shit on. Being a reaction doesn't make them automatically right, but it's hard to call them instigators
Anon think about this for 10 seconds
How do you think black people protesting via “sit-ins” was successful when that’s trespassing and they could be arrested for it en masse?
>People start a movement you don't like
>It's gaining traction
>Martyr them immediately
That's like the worst thing you can do. You can arrest key leaders but trying to arrest everyone at every protest en masse isn't a good idea, ideologically speaking. I doubt it's very practical either, it's not something that happens much in modern protests either. At least not in first world countries or countries without dictatorships
>Martyr them
You own a restaurant
Black people are sitting in taking up space and refusing to leave
You call the cops
The cops refuse to do their job because they were ordered not to interfere
>this is a populist movement :^)
well, yeah. But there's a reason third wave feminism was considered a laughing stock up until about 10 years ago. Because they had basically everything feminism fought for and still felt the need to complain and ruin shit
Nta but political correctness was forced onto the population through top-down systems of control and denying that doesn’t make you “not an extremist” it makes you stupid.
>I'm not a centrist
Then what are you? If you're not a proponent of ESG and intersectional principles, and you're not an opponent of them, and you don't see a balanced side of them either, then where do you stand? Do you have any convictions at all? Or are you simply contrarian? What views do you have on these subjects?
>If you're not a proponent of ESG and intersectional principles, and you're not an opponent of them,
I do not pick my principles based on "pro-anti ESG". I have different views on each individual topic like race and representation, corporate interference and environmental shit.
Ok so what is your opinion on corporations weaponizing federal connections to try and force social change?
Gay as frick. Corporations shouldn't be able to do such things at all. If creatives want their work to engender social change WITHOUT being forced to, however, that's their perogative. I also think reactions to certain issues are also gay as frick though. It makes sense to be mad about changing established characters to be black or gay or whatever, or placing them in places they canonically or historically didn't exist. It's fricking moronic when people cry about Blacks just existing in places it makes perfect sense for them to be.
Ok cool so you are anti-ESG because that’s what it is I don’t really understand why you were pretending to have diff opinion.
I'm also anti this board pissing and shitting every time the homos do a kiss
If you don’t voice your discontent it becomes easier for them to pretend they are reacting to market demand
Not everybody cares about that shit you know.
I'm sure flooding Ganker with whinging will be seen by the devs who would never come here
You literally need to be conditioned to nkt revolt in disgust at the sight of gay men kissing. The frick do you expect to happen?
The issue is people pointing at everything leftie as ESG, forgetting that liberals also just exist. Sometimes the leftie is just lefties being lefties
You don't know the meaning of the word hypocrite.
This response literally proved his point, you are useless.
>Has no counterargument.
>Posts a ragecomic to save face.
I think this smuggie. I hate le both sides homosexuals so much.
thread's done
Amazing paragraph Anon.
Honestly pretty accurate, a lot of shit is being softened up these days, example Hulk in endgame became a joke. I wont be surprised if thats why western females are being uglified everywhere example MJ spiderman2 because of projection issues from writers
This is the same subreddit who for weeks on end tried to boycott Hogwarts Legacy or some shit, because Rowlings said a few anti-trans stuff. Literally everyday they posted pro-trans shit on their subreddit and tried to campaign against the game and they were dead serious about it. Then the game released and it literally bombed in sales lmao those homosexuals literally gave it more publicity
That's fricking moronic. If you like a character it's because you empathize with it in some way. You like old Kratos because you think he's cool and has a personality that you like. You don't like new Kratos because he comes off as a whiney gay to you and you don't like that. There's no reason to try to overanalyze it like some youtube reviewer
No, it is deeper than that. Nu kratos was created by and for people who were offended at the the idea of the existence of a man who was not a whiny homosexual cuckold. That's why not only did he change, but the game tries to wax poetic about how much better he alledgedly is now, even if he can never be forgiven for having used to be a chud.
Nu-Kratos appeals to the millennial's sense of troll's remorse.
What if you wanted to play as a character you don't identify with?
There are a ton of characters that I like that I don't empathize at all with. What kind of moronic take even is that?
>gamers lost the ability to empathize or insert into any protagonist that wasn't exactly like them
I hope you realise the extreme irony of posting this on the board where people will flip out if they have to play a character that doesn't have the same race or gender as them.
doesn't that just prove his point? Ganker IS gamers right?
It does, but his post is phrased in a way that implies it's all the other gamers that are the problem and not anyone here
AGAB
Hi, Reddit!
People here will play games starring japanese, girls, aliens, robots, even no protagonist at all. We just don't want games starring Black folk or ugly girlbosses. It's not about representing me, it's about not being what I hate.
you hate quite a lot of things for no apparent reason.
No, I hate Black folk and girlbosses for entirely correct reasons
>Green dinosaur
Ganker is silent
>Pink god-like being
Ganker is silent
>Cute Japanese 12 year old girl
Ganker goes uuuooooh
>Strong, stoic half-human, half-bird, half-alien parasite, half-alien parasite again woman
Ganker is silent
>Giant ape in a tie
Ganker is silent
>Manlet boxer from New York
Ganker is silent
>Manlet Italian plumber
Ganker is silent
>Manlet Italian doctor
Ganker is silent
>Crying, dying 6 year old
Ganker is silent
>wienery blue hedgehog
Ganker is silent
>Heroic blue robot
Ganker is silent
>Black ex-con gangbanger
Ganker is silent
>Middle-aged Japanese criminal
Ganker is silent
>Strong feminist woman
Ganker is furious
>Formerly white character turned black
Ganker is furious
>Trans
Ganker is furious
I wonder why we're fine with all of those different characters listed prior but none of the latter.
big if true
Because all those things you listed were fine, it's only the final three that are annoying and stupid.
Correct
how do you even live with such little introspection
is it just quiet up there all the time
do you just immediately react to stimuli like an insect
im starting to understand what NPCs truly are
Project often, or just in regards to me?
Nobody likes feminists.
Race-swaps are insulting and stupid.
Trannies are a joke to everyone.
Your bubble does not constitute the whole of reality. People outside of it only pretend to agree with you because they just want to go on with their lives without having to deal with you going into a dramatic, hyperventilating fit over something as inane as obscure homosexual minorities and weird psychological diseases.
Do you even go outside? Every single thing you said is untrue, and is LITERALLY projecting.
I don't live in a tiny leftist enclave inside of a big city. 🙂
Neither do I?
It's tough being a contrarian in denial, anon. Also, I'm another anon who also disagrees with your gaslighting opinions. Leftist ideals are woefully enclosed in their thinly constructed bubbles.
Where I live if I went around asking people about trannies, LGBT, race-swaps, feminists, or other stuff that leftists like you like, they'd think I was weird. They'd also say trannies are freaks, and feminists are stupid.
🙂
The terminally online left tends to assume two things
>the stuff they believe in is universally accepted
>anyone who doesn't believe in their beliefs is a fat manchild loser who spends every waking moment second of his life kvetching about wokeness
But really, they're a small minority that thinks they're bigger than they really are and most people are either indifferent to them or dislike them without making it their entire identity.
That's not what is happening here. The guy he replied to was mocking him for having 0 reading comprehension.
And yet whose hobbies are being taken over?
Whose media is being subverted to broadcast whose message?
Which people create and contribute more to civilization and a nation's GDP?
Which people control the narrative in every major public space, while you're forced to hide in the shadows of places like this, where you STILL lose?
You have no awareness, little dude. Every single thing you and that other loser said can be immediately applied to yourself, except truthfully.
Trump is going to lose again. Unironically.
>Ganker being silent about something
>ever
you've clearly never been here before
Show me 3 people on Ganker who have ever complained about having to play as Wario, Mega Man, Samus, Mario, or Yoshi.
>gamers lost the ability
You mean women
something seems fishy about the replies
you are correct but hilariously also don't realize that you're describing Ganker more then you're describing anyone else
Not remotely true, stupid.
very true, stupid
every time a game is announced with a protagonist who isn't a handsome confident manly rogue like Starkiller or Solid Snake, half this board shits its pants and talks about society falling apart
most of this board is fat ugly virgins and they love playing as hot girls.
>every time
Interesting choice of words. You said "every time" instead of "any time" because it literally happens every time with every new game that comes out. Almost like there's a pattern to it. Hmmmm
>implying that Ganker is filled with handsome confident manly rogues
You are conflating "us gamers" with people that played games. In fact, gamer here used to be a derogatory term in the 2010's.
Companies like Sony don't make videogames for people that care about games. They make cinematic experiences for people that buy FIFA, Cal of Duty and GTA.
GAMER SOYS BTFO
Nice bots homosexual
I don't agree just on one thing. I don't need to self insert as my weakness but I also don't play characters to self insert as a badass. For me characters are what they are. Recently there are too many sift characters.
>Gone are the days where we wanted to be the badasses we saw in games, now people want the badasses in games to be just as pathetic and weak as they are.
i'm a weak effimante numale homosexual so to speak, but i only really play hyper competitve and violent games despite being an ultra libby pacifist irl
i don't get the "gamers lost the ability to empathize or insert into any protagonist that wasn't exactly like them." either
main culprit is still bad writing though, i didnt like og god of war either
it felt like it was trying too hard to be edgy masculine rage man
no intent in playing the newer walky talky bullshit but it seems like they desperately wanted to overcompensate yet still cash in that sweet sweet brand recognition
i will say melee-focused re4 over the shoulder adventuregame at it's most barebones core is something i'm willing to give a chance if someone makes an actual videogame out of it
This sounds like projection, every GoW thread that gets posted rails against nu-Kratos and no one defends him aside from whiny tourists. If anyone is to blame it’s the fricking normies that started infiltrating gaming and making everything about them. They’re the ones that need to constantly self insert as whiny morons.
Other way around buddy. The newer generation of writers are incapable of writing for anyone but themselves. They can't possibly write a compelling character that they disagree with. That's why every character they write, they write them reacting as the writer would. That's why they get mad when white men write characters that aren't white men - they don't think a white man can write a good black woman or gay criminal Asian or etc. You may only write characters that look like you because they can only write characters that act like themselves.
>gamers lost the ability
We never lost the ability, its just that ~~*They*~~ and women don't want strong male characters anymore, and whatever existing strong characters they'll do away with, like Kratos, and give him the "heart of gold" treatment as opposed to the guy he was 15 years ago toppling an entire mythos out of rage for his family
I think this is the most honest reasoning. I cant pinpoint when it started but I still think the pioneer for it was Luke from TLJ. He was old, jaded, pathetic, had zero fight left in him and lived in imposed exile. Then they started doing it to other protagonists. Marcus Fenix was older, jaded, grew potatoes at his old family home and in exile. Kratos was weaker, pathetic, in exile and acting OOC.
I went on reddit for the first time in ages recently because the hospital wifi wouldn't let me on Ganker.
I thought gaming circle jerk was the gaming subreddit but its actually just some gay pride parade where people post the worst takes of all time.
Anyways they were fricking seething about the image in OP. Was pretty funny.
They were also seething and doing mental gymnastics about the facescan image thats in the catalogue right now
Redditors being butthurt is a good deed done.
What is wrong with those homosexuals? They’re some of the most deranged morons I’ve ever seen and they’re obsessed with Ganker for some reason.
Pot calling the kettle black
>no u
Like I said deranged
>because the hospital wifi wouldn't let me on Ganker.
Hope you're ok now Anon
Why did trannies got so much positions in gaming companies and localization?
>anon cannot comprehend a state of mind other than constant, pant-shitting rage
Because being angry is bad, you should be a harmless cuck that forgives and forgets and never fights back.
Love your enemies and your goverment goy.
The devs grew up into boring middle aged men with kids
A lot of modern writers are reluctant to write key characters that have negative traits, because even if they are not written in glorify them, they think that portraying bad things means endorsing bad things.
Also modern writers are deathly afraid of coming across as campy or goofy, so they avoid writing sincere emotions and instead make their characters react to the world behind layers of irony and don't allow them to take anything seriously because being sincere is cringe.
>they think that portraying bad things means endorsing bad things.
It's not that THEY think that, it's that modern audiences think that and they want to avoid the drama. Totally on the money with the rest of it though, Marvel has inflicted brainrot on an entire generation.
Too masculine.
It's really irritating how much talking there is in the new GoW games, the old ones are downright meditative experiences in comparison
As for the contents itself, the writers are weird LA people who are obsessed with therapy and introspection
Because they fricking sucked.
Because they're usually primitive and don't bring much cinematic expirience
This comment is so moronic that it is astounding. You literally have one of the most profound works if literature abtly named CONAN THE BARBARIAN. if you have a razor nearby, introduce it to the inside of your jugular.
Conan was the capeshit of its time, "profound work of literature" my ass
conan's nonfiction though
I agree, what the frick does "cinematic experience" even bring or mean it's a fricking video game you omega moron
It means more character drama, more dialogue, more cutscenes. When the game starts to look more like deep soulful high art movie, that critics and people love to praise. This helps games with not very original gameplay to sell better.
Because most writers are shit, and just like Ninja Theory failed with Monkey and Donte the end result most likely will not be a cool badass but instead just an butthole nobody likes.
That scene is Kratos acknowledging the worst and best of himself, and that he was always more than the monster everyone saw him as.
the part that makes it cringe is that nobody cares about that. it's like trying to develop doom guy as a character. nobody gives a frick.
This, bro we get it your so deep. Now give us a cool character to kill big monsters/gods with or frick off, fricking deep as a shallow puddle
Kratos says he needs to change this and we need to be better that but this moron in the nu games did literally nothing except stagnate. He murders gods & people, lies to his closest allies keep secrets and whatnot and is still a prick at the end of the day so wheres the real development? All he does now is just like, kill and scream less lol
Another thing that the nu writers dont understand is that the reason why old GOW games were cool is because its peak primal ""gigachad"" energy. In a way, you arent playing Kratos, hes more of a caricature a scapegoat for your feelings. Had a shitty day at work? Wanna blow off some steam? Oh okay heres a game where you're a brutal murdering rampaging screaming madman and kill everything facing impossible odds all on your own. Kill literal gods & deities while banging hot woman and looking like chad prime, the videogame™. But these days they make Kratos into some woke based character who tries to fix his toxic masculinity or some shit and tries to "improve" and "be sorry" when he killed literal millions lol
>why old GOW games were cool is because its peak primal ""gigachad"" energy
>did literally nothing except stagnate
It wouldn't make as much money but it would have been genuinely ballsy if they'd just made the newest game "God of Peace" and had it play like Animal Crossing with different pantheons as Kratos learns to be nice.
that's because the devs believe in redemption
as long as your crime was only something trivial like murder or rape and not an actual evil crime like saying something off colour
>Rape
Not that of women of course.
no thats fine too
raping, rape threats are all good, especially if they come from trans woman and even more so if it's towards a woman with a Wrong Opinion
>nu games did literally nothing except stagnate
This is a major plot point of Ragnarok... I don't think you paid attention.
I think the newer God of War games are fundamentally dishonest. Kratos gives all these speeches about being a better man, but the gameplay loop is based on the same precepts (though it handles differently) - killing many, many, many people. Hearing Kratos give a speech about moving on and the value of hope rings hollow when the next mission forces you to kill *hundreds* of elves in gory ways to progress.
>Killing people is wrong
>Killing elves is ok
Where is the contradiction?
Some people are worth killing, too.
Gaming industry is filled with fatherless manchildren so they project a fantasy dad into a fictional video game.
>He's a le father now, anon.
>oh
because women and lefties next question
Gamers grew up.
why does "growing up" always involve developing gay facial hair?
Terminally online leftwingers think they're "grabbing masculinity by the balls" by adopting outdated masculine styles From YMCA and 'acting' like flaming homosexuals
>t. can't grow a beard
I'm from greek, I'm as hairy as a gorilla, but why the frick would you go with the 80s porn star stache instead of anything else?
Nta, but I have a decent chin, so I either have the stache, or on occasion will grow some chops
growing a beard is the male equivalent of cutting your hair short as a woman
The stakes aren't the same.
Growing a pornstache doesn't take me longer than a week while growing your hair back as a woman sets you back months.
It makes you hot?
This
Always fun to see beardlets seethe
But Romans shaved, and Germans didn't. So your picture makes no sense when paired with your comment
>Romans
>beards
>cutting your hair short as a woman
It's literally the fricking opposite. Men use beards are used to hide shit lower face genetics, women use long hair to negate moonface, make their face slimmer.
his post is true in the way that only the true 10/10 beautiful specimens can make it work and look great
t. short haired women lover who agrees it looks bad on your stereotypical american landwhale who decides to go for an alternative look as regular beauty isnt for her
pic related
it's my wife
i will agree moustaches looking like it has a gay undertone most of the time even it looks like 10/10 on a guy, culture has done that
but it's still true
only if you go greasy 50yo janitor mode or a historic character i don't have that association
God I love short hair on a prostitute. Especially with glasses makes my wiener fricking THROB. You hear me???? THROB
Weird things (mainly sex related) happen to me whenever I go outside while clean shaven, no matter the country, so I always like to maintain some amount of facial hair to stop the worst effects: like random touts physically pulling me into their businesses (sex and normal), me accidentally stumbling into brothels while looking for ordinary things (ATMs, shops, restaurants, hotels, etc.), and the disproportionately large amount of hookers that go after me in an attempt to get my (lack of) money. b***hes are EVERYWHERE and they always give a single compliment (9/10 times it's about my pale skin), a sentence or two of small talk, then unsubtly 'hint' that I have to pay if I want to continue the conversation at their place. My heart just can't handle it.
I have nearly the exact moustache bottom left, same color and everything
you're gay
because it's toxic sweaty. stop being an anti-social bigot!
Reminder that spartans were homosexuals, so young Kratos is complimenting here
Funny how nobody posts the picture of him with Jesus forgiving him anymore. Because that's exactly what happened in the game minus Jesus.
How often do you have to be made fun of before you realize just how wrong you are?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/1aj27gs/how_could_you_misinterpret_one_of_the_most/
>
>redditkeks are literally autistic man children
remember that it's those kinds of defects that can't even function properly that are calling you chuds that need to grow up
Why is it that every time you click on the profiles of redditors from places like gcj you always get stuff like literal dysfunctional aspies who talk about wanting to kill themselves?
>literal dysfunctional aspies who talk about wanting to kill themselves
Why are they giant pussies to actually do it? The world would be better
jesus christ i can literally smell the soilent cans through my screen
>durr media literacy
I understood what they were trying to do, that doesn't make it good or "correct", redditor
I fricking hate it because it is genuinely possible to have poor media literacy but people use it as a dismissal of criticism entirely rather than a means to explain what was missed.
If I “get it” but I think it’s stupid I don’t have poor media literacy.
Believe it or not that place used to be pretty funny years and years ago when it was just a parody of the gaming subreddit that was genuinely awful and probably still is today. I have no idea when it turned into this
It still is a parody of a gaming subreddit. That's why every decent game is called shit and slop and game that no one likes are called masterpieces. It's a video game board where no one likes video games. That's the joke.
But enough about Ganker
i believe he means the reddit forum where they spend hours seething about a Ganker screenshot, not Ganker
not that much different from here seething about a twitter screenshot for hours
>muh joke
They are 100% serious and filled with mentally ill morons, all you have to do is you have to take a look at the hogwarts legacy controversy
This sub is the literal definition of a community pretending to be morons will allow for actual morons to come in thinking they belong here.
Then leave homosexual
The original idea of the circlejerk subreddits was to make fun of the low effort garbage and endlessly regurgitated opinions that are constantly posted on the main subs. Now it's just theythems ranting about whatever twitter fricks like to rant about as evidenced by the link that anon posted containing gay lectures about what masculinity is
too late to gaslight the thread with false info. a link to that place was already posted here and every post there was exactly the kind of softsoi shit you'd expect. could only cringe so much before closing the tab.
https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/gamingcirclejerk
Yeah, I'm not convinced they're ironically moronic
yeah bro remember that time they ironically spent three months having an autistic meltdown over that harry potter game. that was the most epic satire ever.
You have absolutely no right to complain about r/gamingcirclejerk if you post on Ganker. That sub and this board are the exact same thing, just on the opposite sides of the spectrum. Both are filled with obsessed, mentally ill shitposters with terrible opinions who are completely out of touch with reality.
No, we're right, you progressivist homosexual.
Ganker keeps its moronation on this board and some Twitter communities, while lefty redditors are on a holy crusade to destroy everything that is unholy and evil and have already nuked many parts of the internet for this.
Also Ganker shitpost bickering is 1000 times more interesting than reddit "discussions" and their jannies make ours look like just and merciful masters in comparison
the difference is that people on Ganker are more distanced from the topics they discuss and aren't making it their persona
anonymity and lack of upvotes encourage honest takes instead of trying to be "correct" every time which just fosters hivemind behaviour and stifles discussion
every reddit thread is just everyone agreeing and repeating the same points, everything else is downvoted
I remember watching that Jarman guy's japanese translation videos of western threads on anime, and you can always see the contrast between reddit and Ganker (even just Ganker) very clearly.
People treat Ganker like a bar, it can be very messy and uncivilized, but it's also homely.
The reddit posts he displays are always explain-what's-happening-tier pointless trite. It's like they do not know how to have fun.
hijacked by tankies along with every other left-leaning subreddit
I wonder if these moronic homosexuals are able to apply the same amount of nuance to Hitler
>media literacy is when you are told to think about a book, movie in college by your communist leftist professor
And leftoids say they aren't brainwashed moronic npcs
LMAO
>They seethe about us not being homosexuals like them
Kek
Are these people underaged or just developmentally stunted?
>genuinely, literally, unironically, absolutely, legitimately
Why do redditors speak like that? If you put emphasis on something in every sentence then it defeats the purpose of emphasis.
Their vocabulary is limited.
>absolutely
am I crazy or is this word specifically being used more and more for moronic emphasis?
>you can absolutely take dick up your ass and still be a straight guy
it's like they have to convince themselves as they type that shit
Google trends isn't picking up any increased usage, I think it's just you
fair enough
Anon they are transexual Leninists, why do you think their collective IQ isn't above room-temperature levels?
Oh its easy, just judge it on the aesthetics of masculinity. Old Kratos fits the common portrayal of male rage as a mean to power, as a representation of strength, while new Kratos mirrors that by relating power to self-discipline and self-control.
Both are still very much depictions of traditional masculinity but one will appeal to teenagers, who can relate to Kratos' anger at, and disempowerment by, the Gods, while the other appeal to adults, who learned the need to control themselves in order to achieve objectives, bond with others and protect them.
Old Kratos is just a better fit for their individualistic power fantasy, so when new Krathos looks on his younger, angrier self in a critical manner, he's painted as weak and frail for allowing others to interfere with that power fantasy.
Old Kratos was in a state of constant tantrum, but since there were no tears they portray him as the stoic Chad, while New Kratos is shown as overly emotional for working out his baggage and getting over his rage.
>redditor Black person chrome tourists anally frustrated
and having Ganker as their boogyman leechers
i'd love to reply but i got banned from that sub for saying PCMR are nazis XD
>They like OG Kratos cuz they're teenagers! Us grown-ups like nuKratos, cuz he's like, totally responsible.
KEk
nuKraots is honestly what I imagine teenagers or developmentally stunted adults believe a real grownup to be like. and that's kind of right since he was actually written by developmentally stunted adults as someone that's supposed to be seen as grown up man that knows his stuff and has "responsibilities"
It's hilarious, because I work with a bunch of old grizzled machinists, and they all love hyper violent media and will watch a movie simply because an actress shows off her breasts. NuKratos is the personification of feminist hipster males attempting to paint a picture on what masculinity "should" look like, and it's a complete fricking fantasy.
holy shit what happened to that place
it used to be self aware and make fun of the typical reddit clichés, but instead they decided to complain about literally anything else to make themselves feel surperior about their moral highground?
One of the redditors who commented on that thread saying "Obese morons who cant even clean their room calling a fictional man 10 times more muscle than them a f*g" is a Chilean man larping as a Scottish ex neo nazi woman.
I always knew redditors were fricked up but lmao
Chile is a funny case. They have a lot of far leftists, but not nearly enough to get their preferred constitution through. The leftoids overthrew the old government they had a couple of years ago, but the new government they wanted to form couldn't get off the ground because no one wanted to vote for them.
Gaming grew up and moved on from it's manbaby phase. Maybe you should too. Once you abandon the silly edgy manchild taste you will see how much better and healthier modern gaming is.
Funny how you guys like to b***h about black behavior yet glorify in it as long as a white is the one doing it.
Corpos decides they got all the boys playing their games and now it's time for girls.
>edgy, gritty anti-heroes
>kratos
MY SIDES
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
>look ma i posted it again
>look ma i am aping dmc combotroony vid
Take the L and go frick yourself
>Take the L fr fr no cap bro this combo is not bussin
Go back to twitter you massive homosexual, instead of making an argument against the video, you just started having a schizo meltdown, so I'll leave you to it
>Take the L
Found the filthy worthless zoomers.......
>Take the L
Comb your curls today broccoli head?
It kills me that Gowtards and Halogays think their AIDS filled tumors were any good at some point.
Okay? How does your image prove that kratos was not an edgy and gritty anti-hero? This is just you not liking the gameplay of GOW and fanboying over ninja gaiden again. Learn reading comprehension.
>kratos
>edgy
>gritty
>moron shouting at top of his lungs
Frick off moron
go have a nice day npc, good job making ninja gaiden fans look even more moronic than most people already see them because of one or two extremely dedicated mentally ill trannies
>Gameplay and character are same thing
even if your post about square was true what does gameplay on easisest difficulty being square spam has to do with the fact that kratos is edgy gritty anti-hero
>kratos is edgy gritty anti-hero
Holy fricking brainlet
Publishers wanted to double their audience size by appealing to the MAJORITY GAMER SHARE female phonegay demographic after the smartphone explosion in the late 2000s. You see that race to boiled down, mass market appeal everywhere now. Hollywood is a similar example since they're trying to court massive foreign populations like China that dwarf their native American audience.
Truly edgy, counterculture characters can never be mainstream, and instead, you're going to get a deluge of the most inoffensive, milquetoast """antiheroes""" possible that give off an whisper of rebellion while doing nothing to challenge the real status quo in ways that'd leave women uncomfortable. Any other explanation than the raw economics is malevolent misdirection from a publisher, journalist, or useful idiot attempting to browbeat you into purchasing a product making no effort to actually appeal to (You)
That's some weird conspiratorial view of this. Maybe the devs just grew up.
>Maybe the multibillion dollar megacorp just grew up and decided to be better men
The big corporate suits don't make the creative decisions. They get the developers to "make another God of War game and make us more money". The developers could just repeat what the older games did but they are more mature and they know that the older GoW games and gaming culture in general was toxic and childish, they want to do better. It's actually developers making games with something more than just sales in mind. Seriously since I grew up (took me a while) and started appreciating better writing everyting became better. Games like new GoW are a really good image of non-toxic masculinity...it's like they are telling the gamer manbabies "hey, we know that you want to do better, here's how"
LMAO Hahahahahah frick off back to preddit insufferable moron
You are fricking moronic, the corporate suits outsource their writing material to feminist intersectional think tanks. This is not "conspirational" this is a fact.
You stupid baboon, devs didn't "grow up", old devs retired and left the tooling needed to make the videogame. The only thing that needs to be done from scratch is the character design, artwork and story. And the people in charge of that are mostly idiots that couldn't get a career in Hollywood.
Except their suggestions are fricking moronic. "Be better", by being a passive fricking coward?
>Cruelty Slop
>Maybe the shitty indie game will be better than megacorp slop
gaming is truly dead
shut up contrarian
anon, the game looks like shit, made by a medicated freak,
are you sure you're not the contrarian, or am I missing
something here? is this game genuinely good?
Kys moron, Cruelty Squad is the best game of the 2020’s thus far. Can’t wait for Psycho Patrol R
Lmao @ (you), Chud.
>Cruelty Squad
Shit game obviously made by 14 year olds. What grade you in year, Champaroo? You making a game too???
Damn you sound like raging sjw.
again, it's degenerate modern art garbage, stop being
a pertinacious gay and thinking your shitpost of a game
is anywhere near as good as something like Deus Ex
This. That “game” is dogshit. He is probably 13 or 14 and thinks he’s edgy for shilling it and posting it on 4c**ts
>modern art garbage
Not all modern art is garbage and Cruelty Squad having an abstract aesthetic just makes it more interest. Also cruelty squad is one of the best games of the 20's, not that a very high bar has been set.
>Aaa slop
>:(
>indieslop
:O
Imagine having standards that low holy shit
Being a homosexual isn't "growing up"
based LISA enjoyer; still waiting for mystics of trash and violence UpdatHRe
You have to be good at making the character work. If they are too edgy then people won't stomach playing them because they won't want the character to win, and instead want them to lose.
the only time this has happened when i played through detroit become human and i was desperately trying to end the kill bot revolution.
I remember watching my friend play Ragnarok for a bit; he got to a boss fight with Heimdall. Heimdall threatens to skin his kid alive, Kratos starts beating the living shit out of him, then the head Kratos is carrying around for the whole game goes (verbatim) "No! Kratos! Stop! This isn't you!". I burst out laughing; I genuinely don't understand why they were trying to push the "learn to forgive" lesson on with the guy who *just* threatened to torture the main character's son out of spite. It's nonsense.
his name is mimir and your gonna listen to him.
>edgy characters are popular
>people make fun of them for being dumb and cringe
>edgy characters stop being made
>”wtf where all the edge”
"Gamers" have troll's remorse and became their own Jack Thompsons
Because gaming became serious business and edgy power fantasies like Prototype and Infamous are mistakenly seen as too childish and simple to work
The problem with the God of War games is they’re trying to incorporate contemporary values onto a Greek/Norse mythology. Even if Kratos is sorry for the bad stuff he’s done he still has to die for his final act of atonement. Being “sorry” isn’t gonna make him unkill all those people. Measure for Measure and all that shit.
Maybe the plot is that finally Kratos became Christian.
Sometimes you just want to be the bad guy. The world is corrupt and needs cleansing.
>Anti-Hero
>Kratos
Kratos was only an anti-hero in the first game and some of the handheld games, he's a villain protagonist from GoW2 onward. I don't know why so many people have so many opinions about these games, but yet never understood them.
Low test sheltered pussies are game devs
In 10 years, there's gonna be new god of war games and everyone is gonna complain they should have been like 2018 and Ragnarok. People didn't give the GoW Trilogy credit when it came out and people aren't giving the new games credit either.
>people aren't giving nuGoW credit
But it won a bunch of awards for being the gaming equivalent of Oscar-bait??
I want characters like Shadow back.
Play Stranger of Paradise
All memes aside, it really does feel like a late PS2 / early PS3 game
sois want something deep, even if its just deep on the surface. And if something is even mildly light-minded they hate it
Kratos was always a huge moron. I’m glad they changed him
>I was always a huge moron. I’m glad I can change one day
FIFY. Damn autocorrect can be annoying! You’re welcome, Chudly
you simply cannot win an argument with someone who has a bigger jaw than you do
my wife played Nu-God of War for the first time the other day, she LOVED 1-3 and the PSP games, played a little bit of Ascension. , which is basically GoW4 IIRC
She couldn't stomach the new one. She absolutely saw zero appeal in it once the "i like kratos' beard" wore off in a couple minutes
based (for a woman)
>my wife, Joey, played Nu-God of War for the first time the other day, he LOVED 1-3 and the PSP games, played a little bit of Ascension. , which is basically GoW4 IIRC
>He couldn't stomach the new one. He absolutely saw zero appeal in it once the "i like kratos' beard" wore off in a couple minutes. He’s such a silly billy.
>Sweet Baby Inc
Threads done you can all go home now
i like games that only have one color (being brown) with characters that're dark and gritty
kinda wish there was more to that specific niche of third person shooter that isn't stupid frickin gears of war, i want a game like max payne 3
Edginess was huge in the late 90's and early 2000s. The edge subculture has since died, with a bunch of cynical shit eaters following in its wake.
God I miss it bros.
Thoughts on Vinland Saga?
thorkells genes simply overwhelmed his misstresses. thats how powerful thorkell truly was
Incredibly fricking gay. You don't get to decide who your enemies are, they do. The second most israeli manga in recent years
How the frick can you be "based honorary ayan" Japanese man and then write some garbage like this that just make you look as moronic, if not more than the current californian writers?
He should read the Saga of Niall
>jealous roastie orders her clan's men to kill every single person who makes her slightly mad
>she also demands more and more expensive israeliteelry for status
Women with power are dangerous as frick because they cannot experience the repercussions of their actions and words, even in a fricking viking society.
I read like 10 chapters of Vinland Saga on a whim. It was okay, but nothing spectacular. I get that it's been running since the mid 2000s when it would've been rather standout, but I don't think it stands up to the likes of Vagabond or Kingdom. I wouldn't even say it's out and out better than JJBA or Dragon Ball. Hell, Steel Ball Run was running when Vinland Saga started and that's outright better.
His testicles drop in the latest chapter after he hears a baby crying and he tanks 20 arrows and a spear stab to the gut before making the injins piss themselves and run away
I'm not kidding
and why doesn't he die from that?
He manned up.
I'm not kidding, that's literally what happened.
Capitalism. Shareholders expect infinite growth so when the current formula of games start to stagnate on returns they demand a shake up to the formula. We'll probably return to the diamond plated, flavor blasted X-TREME 90s vibe in a decade or so when it becomes ironic enough.
I am confident the future is smaller games made by people who are paid less.
Shrinkflation in game form, but actually genuinely a good thing because 90% of game budget is spent on non gameplay shit anyways.
Lean Production Principles try to infect fricking every industry so they will eventually push for tools to strip skill and knowledge from the labor to justify cutting pay and numbers.
You guys are just as b***hy and pathetic as the troons and gays you make fun of.
See, this is exactly I'm talking about. This guy is being b***hy and pathetic, complaining about other people b***hing about a gay troon game. Instead of joining against the gay troon game, this guy would just rather be a pathetic b***h instead. In the end, nothing gets accomplished because the only possible resistance to the gay troon game are people fighting each other for no reason.
Black person
Original Kratos was Jaffe making a love letter to Ray Harryhausen and Greek movies from the 60s but in an early 00s numetal skin, it's literally a product of its time, but IT'S GENUINE, watch the GOW1 extras, he really loved that shit.
NuGow is simply aping TLOU(so The Road) for a numale soi sipping audience, there's not an ounce of naivety or genuineness to it.
Because they were fricking lame excuses for the terrible storytelling in videogames.
The problem is they were replaced with nothing instead.
>hire female writers for diversity
>all female writers are fujoshis
>get perverted sissification of action heroes for schlicks and femoidgasms
Get ready for the next Duke Nukem where is knocked out by a strong woman and becomes their errand boy and meets a black girl in a wheel chair who turns his misogynistic heart into one of love, where he accept he is actually a closet troony homosexual who wants to become pregnant because taking care of a child inside a womb would bring closer because he was neglected as a child and his father used to beat him.
t. californian femoid
I used to love the new God of War, but after reading your post I now feel embarrassed for liking it and for defending it. Thanks for showing me my faults.
If you really are a woman, your brain is fricking diseased and I pity you.
I read that as "t. clownifornian femoid"
which I guess fits as well
hey hey people!
duke nukem says TRANS RIGHTS here!
>continues to live rent free inside the mind of a small french rat
>Black girl in a wheel chair.
Is she hot?
>Is she hot?
no
>get ready for this schizophrenic scenario I fabricated in my head in which I am oppressed!!!!
go back to moronera
>all female writers are fujoshis
Thats not what that word means you stupid fricking onahole
They are both trash characters for different reasons. It's funny how zoomzooms are nostalgic for the brown n bloom gamer bro faux hawk era of Vidya now.
>be better
>beautiful masculinity
what
aka beta male
it means being a wienersucking homosexual for the israeli elite
Why didn't these fat morons just talk about Aragorn or some shit if they wanted to make a point? At least he was written by a competent writer.
because that requires watching something that's not a cartoon
does he even do anything morally questionable in the story or is he just one of those paragon of virtue type of heroes with absolutely no flaws and shit that make you stress yourself out thinking you NEED to be perfect to that degree to even count as a man?
LotR is about the idea of greed or corruption, which is symbolized by the ring. Aragorn is a mirror of this in a way, he is man's disunity. Starting out as a ranger who is lost to his purpose, he fights against shit he obviously views as evil but he doesn't have the confidence or drive to find it in himself to be the king.
And without the king, Middle Earth would have been lost to Sauron.
He's not morally questionable (nor do you need to be to learn to be masculine), but he obviously learns to become a better man by the trials that he's taken to by joining the Fellowship.
Basically, he (especially in the movies) is about gaining respect for others, being responsible and honesty. In that sense, you can definitely fit him in "become better men" kind of talk.
Just a different one that isn't about going from "assmad killer" to "wholesome beard dad."
Dude dodged being king his entire life because he couldn't cope with the idea of not being good enough to do the job, which simply assured things would go to shit instead of taking a chance. With that said, Aragorn going through his crisis of ego can be seen as a necessary step in the grand scheme of the universe to aiding in destroying the ring, but that doesn't change the fact he had to burden the responsibility when he did in order to see the task through.
Libs already go on and on about how perfect Aragorn and his heckin wholesome masculinity is which is super funny because he was written by someone who would despise them and everything they stand for today. Not even mentioning the fact that Libs themselves haven’t written an Aragorn-adjacent character without muh subversion in basically fricking forever.
that's sort of the point, Tolkien didn't write him to fit their political view, he just ended up as a decent ideal
he's very "unspoiled" in that sense, which is why it's strange whenever new content with him comes out and it's some weird "spin" they need to make (like him being black or whatever)
>beautiful masculinity
>im sorry for drippin but drip is what I do
I like the new games, I don't see why people think Kratos has changed radically or is a different character. Same guy, different problems.
>single dad sim #8479
why
As opposed to what? Black Girl or Farming Sims?
Yes yes. Everyone gets that you haven't played any of the games and that you are 14 years old and currently hate your parents. Totally not a phase or anything.
>weak, meandering plot
>hack-and-slack action already gimped in favour of pseudo-RPG cooldown shit
>complete mockery of Norse mythology
>half-assed redemption plotline GoW3 already did with Pandora
>zero spectacle in a fricking GoW game
though I suppose turning Kratos from a literal greek tragedy hero into a nu-male icon was worth it I guess
>becoming nostalgic for OW THE EDGE
It died for a good reason
Failed writers should not be allowed to touch video games.
>changing kratos that much
Cory Balrog has some major skeletons in his closet and he's using kratos to project hard
Why do people not understand that Kratos was an edgy, gritty anti-hero because of what he had lost? He now has (at least partly) what he used to have before his deal with Ares, so he has literally no reason to ape out the way he did. He still gets angry when his son is threatened, but he consciously reins it in in fear of repeating what he did back in Greece. He only really accepts those deeds at the end of Valhalla and only does so to resolve to not repeat them.
What you are really asking is "Why doesn't Kratos want to ruin another realm for personal grievances?" and I hope you can see how moronic such a question is.
It is not that we do not understand. I understand that a cake made out of shit will taste like shit. That does not mean that I will like that cake.
Can you explain why Kratos mellowing out after he no longer has a reason to be a murderhobo is bad?
because then it isn't redemption, moron. He just doesn't have any reason to be an butthole anymore.
neo-Kratos is shilled by snoys specifically as this great story of "do better, sweaty"
He isn't redeemed by the new trilogy, that is just moronic journos not getting that the entire norse saga is just him coming to terms what he did and accepting it. It is not excused, but he no longer externalizes it to this boogeyman version of himself that he blames for his past atrocities.
He is not redeemed at the end of Valhalla, but he is ready for redemption.
Because it is not interesting. We grew up with a Kratos that has sex with sexy women and had an unending vendetta against the Gods. If your entire character is propped up by hate, and you take away the hate, what in the world are you left with? You're left with Kratos going around the world listening to people yap instead of doing fun stuff.
Why is it a problem when the main character of an action series mellows out? IT'S AN ACTION SERIES
Kratos was driven by hate, but that was never all there was to him. Not even at the very conception of the character. Hell, this is the realization Kratos himself comes to at the end of Valhalla.
And there's plenty of action in the norse saga. Not being a frothing lunatic does not mean Kratos is not surrounded by conflict that he is forced to confront.
>plenty of action in the norse saga.
So how was actual Ragnarök? Pretty epic right?
Congratulations!!! You’ve just been selected as Gankers most idiotic post of the day! YOU ARE WINNER!! Any words for the audience?
Because it's just as moronic as an isekai series that has the guy go back to the real world without magic powers or the people he met and just wageslave for three more books
If you're going to have Kratos not be like he used to when he was the protagonist he shouldn't be the main character
The proper way to do it is to make him the antagonist imo. However the combination of IP nostalgia and MBAs is a vile poison even before adding ideology to it.
There's still conflicts that Kratos has to resolve, so it's not like we just follow along as he lives quietly in the norse woods. It's just a new arc for his character after his greek arc ended. And due to what happened in Greece and what is implied and said to have happened in the interim makes it so that it no longer makes sense for Kratos to be the way he was in that previous arc.
Kratos was GOD OF WAR apotheosis 90s edge bait. The End.
Batman becoming an old golfer in changed diapers is no longer Batman. I AM VENGEANCE I AM THE NIGHT I AM ON DIALYSIS, ROBIN
Take the Batman Beyond series, where Bruce is retired and there's a new protagonist but Bruce is there being a mentor and pulling whatever strings he can in his advanced age. I think that's the best way to handle protagonist characters when they've changed significantly.
Yeah, let's just ignore his murder sprees he's was all too eager for before finding out his wife and daughter were among the targets
Video games actually had them for quite a while before they vanished from pop culture which is quite the achievement.
I'd point to 9/11 as the cultural turning point that replaced edgy anti-system of some kind rebels with actual unapologetic government boot lickers.
Gen Y and Z in particular grew up with that and so I suspect their disdain for these types is similar to my own when I look at some revolting corporate worm.
dw, kratos will return to masacre when he gets to egypt or celtic mythology.
This was in the Steve Austin era. That era passed. Now, its the kpop taylor swift era.
They still exist, but only in Japanese games of course
Jack should have been even more edgy then he already was in the actual game
This. People shit on FF16 fkr whayever reason, but Clive is fricking based.
>QTE to accept the truth
13 slop still in the series, sad to see
>QTE
>Not a dynamic story moment that also shows you how to activate your new limit break devil trigger ability in a really cool way in between a boss phase shift
If this site forced you to prove you played a game before posting about it, the number of moronic opinions and moronic takes would nosedive overnight.
Lmao the dialogue for this meme could not be better.
Its especially weird because this is pretty much what the actual scene is except classica Kratos says nothing at all.
gow been shit since they made it a single dad movie
lol I made this pic a few months ago. glad to see people seething over it
>hand draw something
>it's still a redditjak template meme
And not a moment too soon, Kratos was too much of a Mary Sue.
The real answer is that tryhard edginess was EVERYWHERE in the 2000s, so people eventually got tired of it. There’s a reason the aesthetic of the 2000s was “black trenchcoat and sunglasses accompanied with a nu-metal soundtrack”.
Now the pendulum is swinging back to a point where edginess is refreshing and novel again.
Are these people moronic? kratos didn't jump off a cliff because he "was a piece of shit" he did it because he was literally cursed for life to have nightmares of killing his own family.
What the frick? These people are mentally insane. How the frick do you not even know how the game goes?
Oh right. These homosexuals never play vidya. I hate reddit so god damn much.
it's just further proof that these people are grifters who never even played the old games. The amount of likes that comment has in crazy given that it's completely false.
>nu gow is so shit it made Ganker like the old games out of spite
>homosexual
Funniest thing is, old Kratos unironically behaved like the one on the left while new Kratos behaves like the one on the right.
Not in the Valhalla cutscene.
When did we get another Kratos thread?
Women
If you give him a few minutes of your time, this man will perfectly explain what happened and why.
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Homosexuals and Women now work in the video game industry
>now
Why can't I like both? Old Kratos is cooler because of Young Kratos
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See, I don't mind kratos going soft but this chimpout was unnecessary
I don't even understand why men admire toxicity and aggression so much. I understand that testosterone itself plays a role, but why *can't* we idolize strong sensitive men that still fulfill all their duties and functions and roles as men?
Jesus Christ himself was like the original powerful sensitive man, and most of these moronic inbred manosphere conservatives LOVE Jesus.
homosexual
You will never walk this earth as Jesus of Nazareth did. You only know how to destroy and plague humanity, all in your vain pursuit of hedonism to quiet the voices in your head that you have no control over. You and your ilk are the reason he no longer walks amongus.
youre still a homosexual
>Jesus Christ himself was like the original powerful sensitive man,
Jesus Christ beat people with whips for being israeli. He cursed a tree for not bearing fruit at his command. He told his followers sell their cloaks to buy swords. He said himself that he was not coming to bring peace.
>beat people with whips for being israeli
based wtf
>Jesus Christ himself was like the original powerful sensitive man
Jesus only cries twice in the Bible, once when Lazarus dies and the other time on Palm Sunday. Jesus also flew into a rage and used a whip to drive merchants out of a temple , and then comes back during Revelation with a flaming sword to slay demons.
Jesus wasn't some "sensitive", self pitying nu male who lacked any capacity for rage and violence
I never said he was a sensitive nu male. I'm saying he was a strong man who stuck by what he believed in, which was NOT violence just for the sake of violence. Jesus didn't need to be edgy to be masculine. He was masculine through his words and actions. He still wept when appropriate, and felt no shame from it.
Anything you're criticizing nu-Kratos for, you wouldn't criticize Jesus for having the same strength and compassion as he did.
This conflation of brainless aggression and edginess for the sake of being contrarian against-the-grain with true masculinity is holding men back. Surely there has to be a balance between traditional malehood and whatever shit leftists are trying to force right now.
The true form of man is strong and beautiful and kind, and I'm tired of pretending it isn't, just because no one has the balls to step up and execute it properly.
>The true form of man
There is no "true form of man" lmao, masculinity is multifaceted and kind, fatherly energy is not somehow the peak of masculine existence or something lmao.
Kratos was just any other exaggerated symbol of the masculine need for ambition, violence, and rage. No different from Hercules or Beowulf or many other kinds of archetypal characters. That's it, he's not supposed to be Jesus and no one expects a video game character to be relative to him either lol
>There is no "true form of man" lmao
which logically means there's no antithesis to it either, so e.g., being a violent moron who impregnates a woman via rape and then gets murdered, or being the worthless cuck who marries that woman to help raise her kid while she openly fricks other men in front of you; there's nothing whatsoever wrong with either of these. because there's no ideal to aspire to.
which is OBVIOUSLY wrong, and has always been considered so by every civilization ever to exist. archetypes of the masculine and the feminine exist and are timeless precisely because there are ideal ways to approach either strategy, with some MINOR nuances depending on the environment
moron
>Game lectures you every 5 minutes on how evil you are for wanting to kill shit
Well damn, sorry Sony. I wasn't aware it was a crime to want to play the game.
Why can't you let him be his authentic self
A new creed of b***hhomosexuals infested the hobby. We can't even have edgy in games anymore to display dystopian or otherwise grody settings without going into some lengthy open diatribe or needed explanation of satirization to ease these absolute nugays/numales/bitches. Dark Sun can't have slavery and concepts like a eugenics program creating a gladiator race (Mul) with Humans/Dwarfs in its setting without leftshits spewing themselves about having to decry . Warhammer 40K cannot be fascisitic as a setting, it needs to be told constantly that it's a satire by woketroons despite it being dispelled by one of the creators Andy Chambers saying explicitly it was not intended, they just wanted to make fascist space empire and Space Marines are just that cool and I agree: "Playing space fascists > playing a parody of fascists IN SPACE!"
When a troony filth and libhomosexual tells us that we just want to see slavery because we are fascists, they confuse semblance to the setting to their libhomosexual ideology.
Why do you feel the need to play as a fascist if you yourself abhor and denounce fascism?
Because they have cool clothes
real
That's all anything is anymore...
Did you miss the Suicide Squad?
The new Suicide Squad did something like the old God of War games but today Soys cried about killing the Justice League
Good bait, anon. No (You) for you, however.
>anti-hero
nuKratos is far closer to anti-hero, while old Kratos was just a villain
Some fricking loser convinced everyone that edge = bad inherently and people went along with it for so long that it became the default stance.
God of war turned into a middle aged dad with an adopted milquetoast son because he's a self insert of the devs.