Why did GameFreak remove Challenger's Cave and Route 10 in BW2? I mean I can kinda understand removing Route 10 because it doesn't lead to Victory Road anymore, but what about Challenger's Cave? Any possible reasons?
Why did GameFreak remove Challenger's Cave and Route 10 in BW2?
B2W2 is a shitty fanfic ROM hack of BW (purest monster catching JRPG kino).
I also feel this way. b2w2 is *fine* but feels like some pretty amateur design. the pokemon distribution is more diverse, but doesn't feel very considerate. and the pacing when you finish the sewer quest gets really bad, like they only expected people to play the opening in the new zones
Pokestars is sweet though
challenger's cave is unfinished content that wasn't scrapped from the final game for whatever reason. there are npcs who talk about a legendary pokemon in challenger's cave, and the game has data for an unused keldeo encounter, but challenger's cave is empty and keldeo is never fought
>there are npcs who talk about a legendary pokemon in challenger's cave, and the game has data for an unused keldeo encounter, but challenger's cave is empty and keldeo is never fought
I had no idea that there was data for a Keldeo encounter in Challenger's Cave in BW1. So I guess, since Keldeo is obtained differently in BW2, they just decided to scrap Challenger's Cave entirely?
Source? This ain't the early internet no more.
>the game has data for an unused keldeo encounter
Are you sure about that?
it collapsed
The question is, why did GameFreak decide to "collapse it"?
because it's easier to remove content than make a good game, please understand
Well I think BW2 is a great game, one of the best. That's why I'm surprised why they decided to remove Route 10 and Challenger's Cave. Because they did add plenty of new content in BW2 compared to BW. So I just suppose there's something about Challenger's Cave that GameFreak didn't like. I suppose it might be what
explained.
The encounter data used for Cobalion, Virizion, and Terrakion (determines the intro animation and music, among other things) is also used for wild Keldeo in BW1, even though it's not possible to fight a Keldeo without hacking. No other game in the series has unique encounter data for a Pokemon that can't actually be fought
There isn't an unused offset to initiate a Keldeo encounter (like roaming Darkrai in DPP or gift Victini in SwSh), BW1 is just set to handle a Keldeo encounter that doesn't exist.
At least one programmer at Game Freak thought you were meant to battle Keldeo at some point late in development, but there's no encounter for it nor is there anything that relates it to Challenger's Cave
>No other game in the series has unique encounter data for a Pokemon that can't actually be fought
Porygon, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Eevee, Togetic and Umbreon have the ability to flee from wild battles in Gen 2, but can't actually be encountered anywhere in the wild.
That has nothing to do with encounter data, flee chance is an invisible stat every Pokemon species has in Gen 2. It's related to both the catch rate and the default held item (if traded from RBY)
>flee chance is an invisible stat every Pokemon species has in Gen 2
No, it's just a list.
Why has this guy been spamming threads about these routes lately? Plain autism?
OP here, I also forgot to mention another BW location that is not present in BW2 and that's the majority of Relic Castle.
However, BW2 added the Relic Passage instead, which connects to the lowest floor of Relic Castle allowing us to get Volcarona.
So I guess this addition compensates it?
Thoughts?
IIRC it was a postgame location that was just an excuse to put more gen 1-4 pokemon after the elite four. With BW2's expanded dex and extra locations, it became obsolete.
Good point. Also there was supposed to be a legendary Pokemon inside Challenger's Cave (Keldeo?) in BW1, and there wasn't, so it just made the cave feel a bit like unfinished content. So maybe it's for the better that BW2 scrapped the cave completely. At least there's no legendary bait this way.
>R*dditor's cave
I don't get the joke lol. Why Redditors cave?