>Literally just weaker Mega Man >Barely shows up in the Mega Man games >Proto-Man or Bass would be a better Mega Man Alt. Either that or Zero as another Mega Man rep.
Worst Joke character ever. At least the series redeems itself with Phoenix Wright. While being a wierd pick with a joke moveset. PW at least has fun tools to make him an interesting gimmick despite being a low tier.
in the original VN neco arc is a funny cat version of the main heroine that explains shit to you in the funny bad endings with Ciel where she tells you how to not frick up next time
Melty was originally a doujin game so the devs thought it would be funny to make it a character and it ended up being sort of a mascot for type moon
I was too lazy to find an example without editing, obviously in game it doesn't have the zoom ins, but yeah there's generally a reason why people that actually play a game don't like actual joke characters much. Even when they're bad they're really fricking annoying.
There have been a few recently, although none of them are new. >Neco Arc (buffed, you could argue that she's not a joke character anymore) >Dan (also buffed, he even has an infinite)
I honestly think that season passes kinda killed joke characters as players will always complain if dev add them in
joke characters (ACTUAL joke characters, like Dr Boskonovitch or Neco Arc) are never fun to fight against, either because of some annoying gimmick or because they just ignore game mechanics (like being too short to be hit by medium attacks)
If they actually did people would probablt be pissed. People already get pissed about rosters excluding their favorites and reselling them as DLC, I can only imagine the outrage if a fan favorite character didn't get in a game but a nee joke character did, much less if a new joke character was DLC and people were expected to pay for them. For returning joke characters like Dan it may work, but it seems very risky for devdlopers to do a new one.
A joke character that no one asked for takes the spot from someone who may be highly requested. It was fun back then but now it's risky when games have to sell millions to break even and even one misstep can cause a game to flop.
Ptetty much the only way to sell a joke character nowadays is by nostalgia baiting.
Dr. Bosconowich and Roger Jr. both would sell decently, or at least better than Lei.
The issue with that and what T7 did was selling legacy/veteran characters that were already derivative of other characters as DLC. Dr. B or the animals compared to Lei or Armor King are rough to say.
In the age of patches, players of joke characters demand that their character be as viable as the rest of the cast, thereby invalidating them as joke characters. That plus dev laziness.
Production costs. Joke characters would just take too many resources that a real character could take instead. Imagine putting a Dan in SF6 instead of literally anyone else. It would be complete waste.
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This is a weird argument
Dan would've worked with SF6's launch because the current roster is already great.
Dan in SFV wasn't that far away like that anon said and he was made great.
Piranha Plant in Smash Ultimate is considered a joke character and outside roster gays seething, he was welcomed with open arms
This is a weird argument
Dan would've worked with SF6's launch because the current roster is already great.
Dan in SFV wasn't that far away like that anon said and he was made great.
Piranha Plant in Smash Ultimate is considered a joke character and outside roster gays seething, he was welcomed with open arms
She did 60% less damage than most of the characters in the game, plus she got procedurally nerfed update after update. Just like any other joke character would, be it Hakan, or Dan or even Shingo.
Because she could rushdown, grapple and do full screen mixups with Yamato? Hakan wasn't even shitty, he jus had oil memes and eccentric tones to him. That's like saying El Fuerte and Deejay are joke characters because one is whacky and the other sucks in game and is whacky.
There's an obvious line with this shit.
Hakan was bad, he was extremely well off in Arcade Edition, but he was pretty much redundant in Ultra. He had virtually no combo potential, anyone who mained him as a pro came from Korea, and he was generally used with either Ultra combo 2 or Omega.
There were finalists with Evil Ryu, Guile, Seth, Sagat, Ken, Ryu, Decapre, even Cammy. Hakan wasn't just bad comparatively, he was pretty orphaned as a joke character is wont to be. It just happened that way.
Nah Nicalli is just Akuma
Gill came back but he wasn't the main villain much like Bison.
It wasn't until G came that the plot started to assume that he's the real "Villain", even though he wasn't doing anything in particular, more of "This dude is very weird and sinister, what is his real plan?"
The fact that Street Fighter 6 had a past villain poll that included Bison, Gill, Seth and G confirms it.
Voldo is whacky, doesn't mean he's a "joke" character. Joke implies gimmick or level of sucky-ness.
Roll, NecoArc, pic-rel, all have one thing going for them and suck everywhere else. Characters that exist to do gag animations, barely do any damage and or are cameo characters.
I see a lot of people blaming it on Tourney gays and that doesn't feel accurate. Probably closer to the truth is that video game development is more expensive and takes more time to finish. It's a lot easier to insert jokes when that joke doesn't cost several thousands of dollars and consume your dev time when you're already crunching the team.
There's also the fact that most fighting games have smaller rosters than games like MvC2 despite being properties with multiple titles and fozens of past characters to choose from. Even removing tourney play, people gravitate to certain playstyles and it would suck ass to have the playstyle you enjoy not get into the game for a goofy character you might play once or twice.
Because only an absolute moron like you thinks this is funny. kys
ai post
True npc post
Tourneygays started demanding that EVERY character be competitively viable at the highest tier of play.
Capcom Rocks! MK is Gay!
devs lost their sovl
lalafells still exist
>1.0
Because modern devs hate fun and levity. Everything has to prove how serious you are about gaming.
Roll was a bad joke.
>Literally just weaker Mega Man
>Barely shows up in the Mega Man games
>Proto-Man or Bass would be a better Mega Man Alt. Either that or Zero as another Mega Man rep.
Worst Joke character ever. At least the series redeems itself with Phoenix Wright. While being a wierd pick with a joke moveset. PW at least has fun tools to make him an interesting gimmick despite being a low tier.
Shut up moron
>MvC Infinite didin't have a joke character
>Even MvC3 had a joke character that were cool as shit like Phoenix Wright and Rocket Racoon
>That one comedian dude
>Roll
>Servebot
>That genie weirdo in the japanese version of Tatsunoko vs Capcom
>Phoenix Wright
>Rocket Racoon
Capcom fell off
I too miss when fighting games were just dev's dicking around and having fun and weren't boggled down by metagays.
Esports tourneygays are the worst thing to happen to fighting games. Now we'll never get big budged games that aren't SF or Tekken ever again
When was the last time we even got a joke character?
Fukua? Piranha Plant?
Kuma, technically.
Is Paul related to Guile
Neco Arc
What about a new one?
Okay, explain Neco Arc to me, why did it ever become a thing? It was a chibi version of an existing character that people used for shitposts?
>that people used for shitposts?
Close. It was used by the devs for meta shitposting within their own series.
in the original VN neco arc is a funny cat version of the main heroine that explains shit to you in the funny bad endings with Ciel where she tells you how to not frick up next time
Melty was originally a doujin game so the devs thought it would be funny to make it a character and it ended up being sort of a mascot for type moon
Huh, that's interesting
pickle rick for weebs
This was just horrible
I was too lazy to find an example without editing, obviously in game it doesn't have the zoom ins, but yeah there's generally a reason why people that actually play a game don't like actual joke characters much. Even when they're bad they're really fricking annoying.
>vtumor cancer
Yikes!
Gon from Tekken 3
i remember gon being pretty good too
he was hard to hit, and hit like a truck
Woah are those panties?
There have been a few recently, although none of them are new.
>Neco Arc (buffed, you could argue that she's not a joke character anymore)
>Dan (also buffed, he even has an infinite)
I honestly think that season passes kinda killed joke characters as players will always complain if dev add them in
There's also panda and kuma but they're both too solid to be considered joke characters.
At this point the idea of a joke character is who they are rather than their playstyle being a joke
joke characters (ACTUAL joke characters, like Dr Boskonovitch or Neco Arc) are never fun to fight against, either because of some annoying gimmick or because they just ignore game mechanics (like being too short to be hit by medium attacks)
If they actually did people would probablt be pissed. People already get pissed about rosters excluding their favorites and reselling them as DLC, I can only imagine the outrage if a fan favorite character didn't get in a game but a nee joke character did, much less if a new joke character was DLC and people were expected to pay for them. For returning joke characters like Dan it may work, but it seems very risky for devdlopers to do a new one.
Roll-chan the top tier
>I REJECT YOUR PRESENCE
A joke character that no one asked for takes the spot from someone who may be highly requested. It was fun back then but now it's risky when games have to sell millions to break even and even one misstep can cause a game to flop.
Ptetty much the only way to sell a joke character nowadays is by nostalgia baiting.
Dr. Bosconowich and Roger Jr. both would sell decently, or at least better than Lei.
The issue with that and what T7 did was selling legacy/veteran characters that were already derivative of other characters as DLC. Dr. B or the animals compared to Lei or Armor King are rough to say.
Video games aren't about ""fun""
It's only a problem for roster gayging, if the roster itself is solid and well varied it doesn't matter, roster gays will always seethe.
In the age of patches, players of joke characters demand that their character be as viable as the rest of the cast, thereby invalidating them as joke characters. That plus dev laziness.
Production costs. Joke characters would just take too many resources that a real character could take instead. Imagine putting a Dan in SF6 instead of literally anyone else. It would be complete waste.
SFV Dan wasn't that long ago.
Isn't Dan like actually good in SFV?
Yeah, he was, arguably you can say he was good in SF4 as well, actually I think people forgot that Dan was in base SF4, not Super.
This is a weird argument
Dan would've worked with SF6's launch because the current roster is already great.
Dan in SFV wasn't that far away like that anon said and he was made great.
Piranha Plant in Smash Ultimate is considered a joke character and outside roster gays seething, he was welcomed with open arms
Creating a single character now takes 9 months.
rainbow mika was the last time I had fun picking a joke character.
Having a silly costume/taunt =/= joke character dumb dumb.
She did 60% less damage than most of the characters in the game, plus she got procedurally nerfed update after update. Just like any other joke character would, be it Hakan, or Dan or even Shingo.
Because she could rushdown, grapple and do full screen mixups with Yamato? Hakan wasn't even shitty, he jus had oil memes and eccentric tones to him. That's like saying El Fuerte and Deejay are joke characters because one is whacky and the other sucks in game and is whacky.
There's an obvious line with this shit.
Hakan was bad, he was extremely well off in Arcade Edition, but he was pretty much redundant in Ultra. He had virtually no combo potential, anyone who mained him as a pro came from Korea, and he was generally used with either Ultra combo 2 or Omega.
There were finalists with Evil Ryu, Guile, Seth, Sagat, Ken, Ryu, Decapre, even Cammy. Hakan wasn't just bad comparatively, he was pretty orphaned as a joke character is wont to be. It just happened that way.
Are you guys trying to say Abigail was a serious character? G was also wacky
G being considered the real canon villain of 5 is very weird to me
I thought the soul eating caveman dude was the villain
Nah Nicalli is just Akuma
Gill came back but he wasn't the main villain much like Bison.
It wasn't until G came that the plot started to assume that he's the real "Villain", even though he wasn't doing anything in particular, more of "This dude is very weird and sinister, what is his real plan?"
The fact that Street Fighter 6 had a past villain poll that included Bison, Gill, Seth and G confirms it.
Voldo is whacky, doesn't mean he's a "joke" character. Joke implies gimmick or level of sucky-ness.
Roll, NecoArc, pic-rel, all have one thing going for them and suck everywhere else. Characters that exist to do gag animations, barely do any damage and or are cameo characters.
being kinda wacky does not make them a joke character
why did games stop being games and fall for the realism meme?
people without a soul started to call them "wasted slots" because their shitty waifu wasn't in the game
Slotgays are dumb af.
Real Devil Kazuya in T8
I see a lot of people blaming it on Tourney gays and that doesn't feel accurate. Probably closer to the truth is that video game development is more expensive and takes more time to finish. It's a lot easier to insert jokes when that joke doesn't cost several thousands of dollars and consume your dev time when you're already crunching the team.
There's also the fact that most fighting games have smaller rosters than games like MvC2 despite being properties with multiple titles and fozens of past characters to choose from. Even removing tourney play, people gravitate to certain playstyles and it would suck ass to have the playstyle you enjoy not get into the game for a goofy character you might play once or twice.
>joke/secret characters were just side projects, some bullshit that could be pulled off because of small teams and no bureaucracy
>cant have that because of the opposite along with easter eggs and secrets
what a cucked timeline
>We can never have secrets because of datamine gays
I hate this timeline too anon