fpbp. this series went to shit starting with megas. generational gimmicks are the most soulless and unimaginative method of giving each gen a "unique identity." why get invested in any of them?
>gigantamax >lets make meowth but looong LOL >alcremie but wedding cake LOL >just slap spikes Mega forms >tyranitar's back rips open from its power overflowing, creating the back spikes >aerodactyl sharp rocks harden all over its body, theorized it takes on its true appearance
Doesn't matter if you think they're more thoughtful, to the masses megas were cooler in design, where gigantamax designs for the most part were made to be more silly in nature, with a few outliers of course
They didn't, next generation came by with a new gimmick so gigantamax was shelved. Same thing happened to megas and z-moves. It really sucks we can't use all 4 in one game. I'd love to use a Z move with a gigantamaxed mega pokemon with a tera stab boost.
this but unironically. denying the aesthetic element of gimmicks is moronic. if something feels stupid, people are going to resent using it, even if it's more mechanically interesting than its cooler alternatives.
Because they looked stupid being smaller than regular dynamax. GF should've properly scaled basic dynamaxes instead of setting all to max size possible.
Megas >Pokémon evolving past their limit is a great idea, really cool that fully evolved Pokémon can go a step further >brings the Pokémon to basically legendary status, stats wise >can use them everywhere, trainer battles, wild battles, gyms, elite four >concept for some Megas being how it’s sort of a painful process because of how powerful they become (iirc mega aerodactyl’s spikes become a pain for it)a neat idea
G-Max >it just gets bigger for the most part >can only use them at Gyms and Raids >lore wise, G-Max/D-max can only be used in Galar because of the power spots , so it’s unlikely they’ll ever come back, where with Megas you just need more stones and mega rings
But both of them of course have the issue being that some NFE mons get them, so something like Sableye is forever fricked from evolving into something as cool as mega sableye, or Sandaconda evolving into the G-Max
Also to add to this, I also liked how some Megas would change type/abilities, and even readjust stats, for example >Gengar (in X/Y) losing levitate when it mega evolves >Gyarados losing flying type, making you vulnerable to ground >Garchomp trading its speed for more attack power
It was fun to decide on when to mega evolve on those merits
>But both of them of course have the issue being that some NFE mons get them, so something like Sableye is forever fricked from evolving into something as cool as mega sableye, or Sandaconda evolving into the G-Max
I think this is the one upside of the dex cut, since Mega/Gigantamax forms are not being added into future games, there's nothing stopping them from going back and adding an evo for Sableye/Mawile/Houndoom/etc.
Archlaudon is proof of this: Duraludon had a gmax form and that didn't stop them from giving it a new evolution anyway, since that gimmick form is now effectively gone (and if they ever plan to bring back megas/dynamax they'll just stop those new evolutions from entering that region, like they did with Sylveon in BDSP).
Archaludon is not proof of anything since Gmax forms were given to NFEs from the start.
An evolution to essentially replace a mega would be unprecedented, and i have my doubts Game Freak would commit to that since it could complicate things like mega evolutions in Go.
>What if Pokemon... but Kaijuu! Like their original inspiration!
Yay! >But then we also take away the whole appeal of Kaiju by constricting them to small spaces where there's no freedom of movement and there's no destruction caused by their gigantic sizes and extremely powerful attacks because this is a kids franchise!
Oh...
>What? You want to see the unique gigantamax design? Let me just put this RED FILTER ON IT.
I bet gigantamax was designed first, but they couldn't be arsed to make more than 10 unique designs so dynamax was born.
Do you go into LITERALLY all comp threads to seethe that Charizard was viable last gen? It was circumstantially good in restricted meta because Zacian can't Dynamax, it wasn't remotely centralizing.
Megas were designed to be multi generational until GameFreak realised they’re unsustainable and people would eventually tire of them.
Z-Moves and GMax were released with a pretty clear indicator that they were temporary - Z-Moves can function outside of Alola, but the rings and crystals needed are only found there. Gmax was very explicitly stated to be only possible in Galar due to Galar particles.
Terastal will likely follow suit, although it’s interesting to note that the phenomena does occur outside of Paldea - Kitakami and Blueberry Academy, both of which have a physical distance from Paldea that are heavily emphasised. This could easily just be a Z-Move situation though with Terastal being possible anywhere even if you just take a Tera Orb out of Paldea.
I think that it would've been fine if there was a rotation to the megas.
Like if they had made sw/sd with 10 new megas evos and brought back 5 old ones then it would've stay fresh for the new game. And now that they are doing dlcs they could add new megas each time. Plus put in a restriction on the megaite for pokemon they didnt want in vgc.
>Megas were designed to be multi generational until GameFreak realised they’re unsustainable and people would eventually tire of them.
So by the middle of ORAS' pre-production, when Sugi took artist's block while trying to make mega flygon?
Because if they WERE intending to use them longer than one Gen, they'd have brute-forced it like with regional pokémon.
Most megas do have a concept behind them, you're just too moronic to see them.
Mega Tyranitar, which is unfarily judged for just being extra spikes, is supposed to be Tyranitar having blown more holes in its armor from the extra power. The red segment on its belly, aside from forming an evil face, is the same one it had as a Larvitar which is now reexposed since the extra layer it gained as a Pupitar has peeled off.
I fricking hate this argument >this thing makes sense or has a theme, therefore it is automatically good
I don't care if your parents named you homosexual because their favorite hobby was bundling up sticks, it's still a shit name. the concept doesn't matter, it's utterly irrelevant. ugly is ugly no matter how much thought went into it or how clever the pun is.
>"I fricking hate this argument" >this thing makes sense or has a theme, therefore it is automatically good >"I don't care if your parents named you homosexual because their favorite hobby was bundling up sticks, it's still a shit name. the concept doesn't matter, it's utterly irrelevant. ugly is ugly no matter how much thought went into it or how clever the pun is."
Why did shit gimmick fail to less shit gimmick ?
Because you bought it anyway
You don't play said purchase
You rant about on Chinese forums
It flopped because you are the flop you happy?
>It's funny that no gen 6 mons got megas and most gmax were gen 8
Which is probably the best for gen 6, it sucks that mons that were introduced in Gen 8, moreso the ones that could’ve used the G-Max as an evolution (Sandaconda, Copperajah, Duraldon even) will never get those forms back as evos or anything else
the only thing gigantamax accomplished was making several gen 8 pokemon feel incomplete because anyone with a brain knew dynamax was getting axed
hopefully the inhaler isn't the only one to get a new evolution
>cumbersome to get >last a limited amount of time >replace your hand tailored moveset with BIG NUMBER attacks >most have lame as hell designs >hardly any difference from just regular dyna for the average player
It was a lame gimmick and even GF realized that by now
only certain members of the species could use them. i still have no idea why they did that.
as the standard casual that only played through SWSH's campaign before dropping it forever, I never was incentivized to really play with any of them. horrible decision on their part
Genuinely too silly. Megas were visually cool, Gigantamax are just all silly by design.
Teras are too, but at least those are more interesting gameplaywise than just more HP+ Z moves for three turns.
It’s because Megas had a lot more personality in terms of gameplay while Gigantamax was tacted onto Dynamax which has the least personality of the gimmicks and only total of 15 people actually like Dynamax.
By personality, I mean how the gimmick played out in actual battling and not just strawman wojak bait images. With Megas, each of them were functionally Uber Pokemon with the limitation of needing a specific item and were all unique to each other.
Z-moves, for the most part were simply just “nuke thing in front of me” at least had the drawback of requiring a held item and also could be used with Z-Status moves for different strategies.
Tera can be used a variety of ways for a tactical advantage from complimenting your weaknesses to STABs to even strong Hidden Power with Tera Blast.
Dynamax has no personality in terms of gameplay because despite being the most complex it’s also the most straight forward. It has that problem Z-moves had with “just nuke what’s in front of you”, but much worse since you nuke what’s in front of you for 3 turns, get +2 Speed with Rain up, and just spam attacks.
There is no choosing between 50 unique forms that play wildly different.
There is no Z-conversion Porygon Z or Rockium Z Landorus-T
There is no Tera Normal Extreme Speed users but deciding to Tera Fairy Skeledirge because you need it more in that match-up.
You just Dynamax your sweeper when you hit a roadblock abd autoplay the game.
Dynamax enabled much more interesting plays than Tera since you can manipulate weather and terrain, making the judgement call to dynamax your Grimmsnarl to get fairy terrain up to cripple an enemy Amoongus is infinitely deeper than tera grass on anything you don't want put to sleep.
Tera enabled much more interesting plays than Dyanamax since you can manipulate type defensively to protect against your weaknesses, certain moves, and certain status effects, or offensively to gain coverage via Tera Blast or just double down on a STAB you already have. making the judgement call to Tera Grass Heatran means you reduce the damage from your former 4x weakness but are now completely open to common moves like Brave Bird and U-Turn. Infinitely deeper than brainlessly spamming Max Airstream/Gmax Wild Fire with your Charizard to get broken speeds boosts and free damage on the opponent for the whole game.
Here's the actual answer OP: because you didn't have control over where you could do it. Only in gyms and wells. The other gimmicks work anywhere as long as the requirements are met.
Six year old kid using Megas >HOLY SHIT MY CHARIZARD JUST TURNED ALL SPIKY AND BLUE AND COOL AND IT GOT SO STRONG AND I CAN SWEEP EVERY TRAINER IN THE GAME THIS IS SO AWESOME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH CHARIZARD
Six year old kid using Dyna/Gigantamax >HOLY SHIT MY CHARIZARD JUST TURNED GIANT AND HAS HUGE FLAMING WINGS AND wait why did all of my moves change? Why isn't Charizard actually any stronger? Why does he shrink after three turns? Why do I have to be at a gym to use it? This is kinda lame...
getting new designs was completely pointless when the only mechanical difference from Dynamax was basically getting their own signature Z-move instead of a generic one
I think Mega’s and Gigantamax will likely never be revisited due to how they shut down the idea of just making a new mon with the theme of the temporary form so long as they are available. Pokemon like Roaring Moon, Iron Valiant, and Dipplin are basically the Megas and Gigantamx turned into regular, but “new” mons. For example Mawile is harder to revisit and make a evolution for because of the Mega, but perhaps later down the line it’ll get an alt form or evolution with elements from the Mega.
Both regional variants and now the paradox versions have fixed this for a while now, just have those be the ones that get evolutions that "fix" bad pokemon.
SM's dynamic camera and music was a nice douse of soul after XY ruined the series. It felt cool and climactic compared to megas just being spammed nonstop, which ruins the appeal after you use it twice.
Making Gmax almost a kanto/galar exclusive and making charizard Leon's ace was a mistake it worked for megas because a lot more people was coming back to the series so the nostalgia hit that people, Gmax zard is not a good rep for the gimmick, it looks cool but is like the only pokemon that benefits more from dynamax than Gmax, Leaving the starters G-max for DLC was an even bigger mistake G-max scorbunny should have been Leon's ace,
other than that the the dexcut just made everyone hate everything more than usual, i wish they had kept megas in to see battles of mega zard x vs g max zard like in the anime
>mega >has cool new designs for many old fan favourites >has various gameplay implications due to new stat spreads on the mons, each mega brings something new to the table >is a commitment in team building as there's one mega slot and doing an adaptable team with multiple stones makes someone lose out on items >you can get all the megas by playing the game normally >charizard gets two completely different forms that can't be read from team preview, so while it's shilling they did it in a fun way
>dyna >lol double health, 120 power moves and free effects for anyone on a whim, the ultimate reversal! >there are special giga forms with one special move each but you gotta grind limited time events to get them! >some of them aren't even good and you gotta run their stock forms instead >charizard not one of those, he just gets the best g-max move >the names are stupid and should've been swapped, gigantamax for regular mons because they just get big and dynamax for the special forms because dynamic, changing
BECAUSE THEY'RE STUPID
fpbp. this series went to shit starting with megas. generational gimmicks are the most soulless and unimaginative method of giving each gen a "unique identity." why get invested in any of them?
>Megas
>become a supersaiyan
cool
>Gigas
>become a parade float
lame
simple as
Except Gigantamax forms are more thoughtful and original than >just slap spikes Mega forms
>DUDE JUST MAKE [feature] OF THE POKEMON BIGGER LMAO
>just slap spikes
Most Gmax's are literally just that. Most of them barely even look any different.
You now remember Corviknight had a Gmax form.
>gigantamax
>lets make meowth but looong LOL
>alcremie but wedding cake LOL
>just slap spikes Mega forms
>tyranitar's back rips open from its power overflowing, creating the back spikes
>aerodactyl sharp rocks harden all over its body, theorized it takes on its true appearance
funny how both Tyranitar and Aerodactyl megas look like shit huh
Doesn't matter if you think they're more thoughtful, to the masses megas were cooler in design, where gigantamax designs for the most part were made to be more silly in nature, with a few outliers of course
You can only use them in scripted battles.
They didn't, next generation came by with a new gimmick so gigantamax was shelved. Same thing happened to megas and z-moves. It really sucks we can't use all 4 in one game. I'd love to use a Z move with a gigantamaxed mega pokemon with a tera stab boost.
>Same thing happened to megas and z-moves.
Megas at least lasted a little longer.
Megas got to last twice as long because CHARIZARD got two of them
lorewise, you can only dynamax in galar, while the other gimmicks can be pulled off anywhere
Yawn
this but unironically. denying the aesthetic element of gimmicks is moronic. if something feels stupid, people are going to resent using it, even if it's more mechanically interesting than its cooler alternatives.
right s◇yjak is right
Because they looked stupid being smaller than regular dynamax. GF should've properly scaled basic dynamaxes instead of setting all to max size possible.
Megas
>Pokémon evolving past their limit is a great idea, really cool that fully evolved Pokémon can go a step further
>brings the Pokémon to basically legendary status, stats wise
>can use them everywhere, trainer battles, wild battles, gyms, elite four
>concept for some Megas being how it’s sort of a painful process because of how powerful they become (iirc mega aerodactyl’s spikes become a pain for it)a neat idea
G-Max
>it just gets bigger for the most part
>can only use them at Gyms and Raids
>lore wise, G-Max/D-max can only be used in Galar because of the power spots , so it’s unlikely they’ll ever come back, where with Megas you just need more stones and mega rings
But both of them of course have the issue being that some NFE mons get them, so something like Sableye is forever fricked from evolving into something as cool as mega sableye, or Sandaconda evolving into the G-Max
Also to add to this, I also liked how some Megas would change type/abilities, and even readjust stats, for example
>Gengar (in X/Y) losing levitate when it mega evolves
>Gyarados losing flying type, making you vulnerable to ground
>Garchomp trading its speed for more attack power
It was fun to decide on when to mega evolve on those merits
Megas were fun for the opportunities they provided. Gigantamax is just a single unique move that sometimes isn't even good.
>But both of them of course have the issue being that some NFE mons get them, so something like Sableye is forever fricked from evolving into something as cool as mega sableye, or Sandaconda evolving into the G-Max
I think this is the one upside of the dex cut, since Mega/Gigantamax forms are not being added into future games, there's nothing stopping them from going back and adding an evo for Sableye/Mawile/Houndoom/etc.
Archlaudon is proof of this: Duraludon had a gmax form and that didn't stop them from giving it a new evolution anyway, since that gimmick form is now effectively gone (and if they ever plan to bring back megas/dynamax they'll just stop those new evolutions from entering that region, like they did with Sylveon in BDSP).
Archaludon is not proof of anything since Gmax forms were given to NFEs from the start.
An evolution to essentially replace a mega would be unprecedented, and i have my doubts Game Freak would commit to that since it could complicate things like mega evolutions in Go.
All the gimmicks flopped
not double battles
All the "transforming" gimmicks
>What if Pokemon... but Kaijuu! Like their original inspiration!
Yay!
>But then we also take away the whole appeal of Kaiju by constricting them to small spaces where there's no freedom of movement and there's no destruction caused by their gigantic sizes and extremely powerful attacks because this is a kids franchise!
Oh...
That's one of the many reasons.
>What? You want to see the unique gigantamax design? Let me just put this RED FILTER ON IT.
I bet gigantamax was designed first, but they couldn't be arsed to make more than 10 unique designs so dynamax was born.
The entire point of Dynamax was that megas just made the meta comically centered on whatever mon could abuse it the best and crippled your options
Exempt Gmax CHARIZARD was even more centralizing than either of the Mega CHARIZARDs
Do you go into LITERALLY all comp threads to seethe that Charizard was viable last gen? It was circumstantially good in restricted meta because Zacian can't Dynamax, it wasn't remotely centralizing.
> that Charizard was viable last gen
And the Gen before that
And the Gen before THAT
So was Landorus and many others. Your point?
>Mega Evolution
Capable of being used anywhere.
>Dyna/Gigantamax
Region-locked
>Capable of being used anywhere.
Lol lmao even
still surprised there was no charizardium z
It was shilled more, it's kind of like how every region flopped compared to kanto
Megas were designed to be multi generational until GameFreak realised they’re unsustainable and people would eventually tire of them.
Z-Moves and GMax were released with a pretty clear indicator that they were temporary - Z-Moves can function outside of Alola, but the rings and crystals needed are only found there. Gmax was very explicitly stated to be only possible in Galar due to Galar particles.
Terastal will likely follow suit, although it’s interesting to note that the phenomena does occur outside of Paldea - Kitakami and Blueberry Academy, both of which have a physical distance from Paldea that are heavily emphasised. This could easily just be a Z-Move situation though with Terastal being possible anywhere even if you just take a Tera Orb out of Paldea.
I think that it would've been fine if there was a rotation to the megas.
Like if they had made sw/sd with 10 new megas evos and brought back 5 old ones then it would've stay fresh for the new game. And now that they are doing dlcs they could add new megas each time. Plus put in a restriction on the megaite for pokemon they didnt want in vgc.
>Megas were designed to be multi generational until GameFreak realised they’re unsustainable and people would eventually tire of them.
So by the middle of ORAS' pre-production, when Sugi took artist's block while trying to make mega flygon?
Because if they WERE intending to use them longer than one Gen, they'd have brute-forced it like with regional pokémon.
>overdesigned GOOD
average digiman enjoyer
if you think that's overdesigned you might have sensory overload issues
megas are the ones that are overdesigned
gigantamax goes for simple but clever concepts
I like how the Gmax descriptions are supposed to be the flattering ones but they all boil down to
>Lets make it look like [thing] since [thing] is big
As opposed to megas where's it's
>Lets make it look like [random bullshit] since [we ran out of ideas]
Most megas do have a concept behind them, you're just too moronic to see them.
Mega Tyranitar, which is unfarily judged for just being extra spikes, is supposed to be Tyranitar having blown more holes in its armor from the extra power. The red segment on its belly, aside from forming an evil face, is the same one it had as a Larvitar which is now reexposed since the extra layer it gained as a Pupitar has peeled off.
its horn is also from larvitar
>IT'S ARMOR IS WEAKER THEREFORE IT HAS EXTRA POWER
lmao even megagays can't justify their dogshit designs properly
>power boost comes with a tradeoff
Kino. Dynashitters would never understand.
>what if/since
>uhhhhh
Behold, the literacy of the image maker
I fricking hate this argument
>this thing makes sense or has a theme, therefore it is automatically good
I don't care if your parents named you homosexual because their favorite hobby was bundling up sticks, it's still a shit name. the concept doesn't matter, it's utterly irrelevant. ugly is ugly no matter how much thought went into it or how clever the pun is.
>"I fricking hate this argument"
>this thing makes sense or has a theme, therefore it is automatically good
>"I don't care if your parents named you homosexual because their favorite hobby was bundling up sticks, it's still a shit name. the concept doesn't matter, it's utterly irrelevant. ugly is ugly no matter how much thought went into it or how clever the pun is."
Anon you are correct in theory, but most gigantamax forms look VASTLY BETTER than the megas.
>take a pokemon and exaggerate some features
cool
>take a pokemon and slap some moronic gimmick on it
this is just how all pokemon are designed now
Gmax Urshifu looks just like a shitty mega, though. Kind of defeats the point of including it.
the image that destroyed megacucks.
More like destroyed dynashitters lmao
>manic ghost monster that lives up to Gengar's dex entries
>vs
>world's largest s-0-y-jak
you lost
Why did shit gimmick fail to less shit gimmick ?
Because you bought it anyway
You don't play said purchase
You rant about on Chinese forums
It flopped because you are the flop you happy?
Gmax is focused on the moves od the pokemon.
Mega is focused on the pokemon itself.
Megas flopped, dynamax flopped, tera is cool though
tera will flop. see you in 2025
not enough gen diversity
It's funny that no gen 6 mons got megas and most gmax were gen 8
>It's funny that no gen 6 mons got megas and most gmax were gen 8
Which is probably the best for gen 6, it sucks that mons that were introduced in Gen 8, moreso the ones that could’ve used the G-Max as an evolution (Sandaconda, Copperajah, Duraldon even) will never get those forms back as evos or anything else
G-max moves were often less useful than the base max move
the only thing gigantamax accomplished was making several gen 8 pokemon feel incomplete because anyone with a brain knew dynamax was getting axed
hopefully the inhaler isn't the only one to get a new evolution
>cumbersome to get
>last a limited amount of time
>replace your hand tailored moveset with BIG NUMBER attacks
>most have lame as hell designs
>hardly any difference from just regular dyna for the average player
It was a lame gimmick and even GF realized that by now
Because by then we knew it would last one gen due to gamefreak's new design philosophies (it lasted half a gen instead)
only certain members of the species could use them. i still have no idea why they did that.
as the standard casual that only played through SWSH's campaign before dropping it forever, I never was incentivized to really play with any of them. horrible decision on their part
Genuinely too silly. Megas were visually cool, Gigantamax are just all silly by design.
Teras are too, but at least those are more interesting gameplaywise than just more HP+ Z moves for three turns.
It’s because Megas had a lot more personality in terms of gameplay while Gigantamax was tacted onto Dynamax which has the least personality of the gimmicks and only total of 15 people actually like Dynamax.
By personality, I mean how the gimmick played out in actual battling and not just strawman wojak bait images. With Megas, each of them were functionally Uber Pokemon with the limitation of needing a specific item and were all unique to each other.
Z-moves, for the most part were simply just “nuke thing in front of me” at least had the drawback of requiring a held item and also could be used with Z-Status moves for different strategies.
Tera can be used a variety of ways for a tactical advantage from complimenting your weaknesses to STABs to even strong Hidden Power with Tera Blast.
Dynamax has no personality in terms of gameplay because despite being the most complex it’s also the most straight forward. It has that problem Z-moves had with “just nuke what’s in front of you”, but much worse since you nuke what’s in front of you for 3 turns, get +2 Speed with Rain up, and just spam attacks.
There is no choosing between 50 unique forms that play wildly different.
There is no Z-conversion Porygon Z or Rockium Z Landorus-T
There is no Tera Normal Extreme Speed users but deciding to Tera Fairy Skeledirge because you need it more in that match-up.
You just Dynamax your sweeper when you hit a roadblock abd autoplay the game.
Dynamax enabled much more interesting plays than Tera since you can manipulate weather and terrain, making the judgement call to dynamax your Grimmsnarl to get fairy terrain up to cripple an enemy Amoongus is infinitely deeper than tera grass on anything you don't want put to sleep.
Tera enabled much more interesting plays than Dyanamax since you can manipulate type defensively to protect against your weaknesses, certain moves, and certain status effects, or offensively to gain coverage via Tera Blast or just double down on a STAB you already have. making the judgement call to Tera Grass Heatran means you reduce the damage from your former 4x weakness but are now completely open to common moves like Brave Bird and U-Turn. Infinitely deeper than brainlessly spamming Max Airstream/Gmax Wild Fire with your Charizard to get broken speeds boosts and free damage on the opponent for the whole game.
>Make a "judgement call" to use something you have already committed to using before the game even starts
My almonds are activating oh my god it's so fricking genius
Here's the actual answer OP: because you didn't have control over where you could do it. Only in gyms and wells. The other gimmicks work anywhere as long as the requirements are met.
Six year old kid using Megas
>HOLY SHIT MY CHARIZARD JUST TURNED ALL SPIKY AND BLUE AND COOL AND IT GOT SO STRONG AND I CAN SWEEP EVERY TRAINER IN THE GAME THIS IS SO AWESOME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH CHARIZARD
Six year old kid using Dyna/Gigantamax
>HOLY SHIT MY CHARIZARD JUST TURNED GIANT AND HAS HUGE FLAMING WINGS AND wait why did all of my moves change? Why isn't Charizard actually any stronger? Why does he shrink after three turns? Why do I have to be at a gym to use it? This is kinda lame...
>The point is kids are fricking stupid
Old news
That's the reasoning behind every single thing in Pokemon since 2010 so of course it applies here
Megas fit nicely with boss battles. I fondly remember fighting gen 6 bosses because of it
Now that I think about it that's an aspect I enjoyed a lot and wish was used more
>Why did Gigantamax flop compared to megas?
Because it wasn't the first gimmick normies would hate megas if they were the gen 9 gimmick.
getting new designs was completely pointless when the only mechanical difference from Dynamax was basically getting their own signature Z-move instead of a generic one
I think Mega’s and Gigantamax will likely never be revisited due to how they shut down the idea of just making a new mon with the theme of the temporary form so long as they are available. Pokemon like Roaring Moon, Iron Valiant, and Dipplin are basically the Megas and Gigantamx turned into regular, but “new” mons. For example Mawile is harder to revisit and make a evolution for because of the Mega, but perhaps later down the line it’ll get an alt form or evolution with elements from the Mega.
Both regional variants and now the paradox versions have fixed this for a while now, just have those be the ones that get evolutions that "fix" bad pokemon.
Except the originals are still worthless so nothing is fixed
SM's dynamic camera and music was a nice douse of soul after XY ruined the series. It felt cool and climactic compared to megas just being spammed nonstop, which ruins the appeal after you use it twice.
>after XY ruined the series
cut it some slack, GameFreak cannot into new systems
compared Diamond/Pearl and other DS games
Making Gmax almost a kanto/galar exclusive and making charizard Leon's ace was a mistake it worked for megas because a lot more people was coming back to the series so the nostalgia hit that people, Gmax zard is not a good rep for the gimmick, it looks cool but is like the only pokemon that benefits more from dynamax than Gmax, Leaving the starters G-max for DLC was an even bigger mistake G-max scorbunny should have been Leon's ace,
other than that the the dexcut just made everyone hate everything more than usual, i wish they had kept megas in to see battles of mega zard x vs g max zard like in the anime
>mega
>has cool new designs for many old fan favourites
>has various gameplay implications due to new stat spreads on the mons, each mega brings something new to the table
>is a commitment in team building as there's one mega slot and doing an adaptable team with multiple stones makes someone lose out on items
>you can get all the megas by playing the game normally
>charizard gets two completely different forms that can't be read from team preview, so while it's shilling they did it in a fun way
>dyna
>lol double health, 120 power moves and free effects for anyone on a whim, the ultimate reversal!
>there are special giga forms with one special move each but you gotta grind limited time events to get them!
>some of them aren't even good and you gotta run their stock forms instead
>charizard not one of those, he just gets the best g-max move
>the names are stupid and should've been swapped, gigantamax for regular mons because they just get big and dynamax for the special forms because dynamic, changing
No interesting lore behind them and ruined competitive singles
>blah blah blah competitive mechanics autism
b***h I just want my charizard to have cool spikes and higher power level
Dynamax is ugly and dumb, both conceptually and visually.
Because it only stuck around for one generation, and is canonically only functional in Galar. you know, until it isn't.