A 2021 leak with documents and even videos (RE8 scenes included)
I don't understand why anyone would buy this on steam. The game was made for the bing bing tablet, it's still going to look like shit on your PC. Why not play the portable title on your portable console?
Exactly, the graphics are weaker and the gameplay is borked
In Japan, their updated game version was the G version, and the final tier was called G-Rank. The western release called it Ultimate, instead of G. World changed that to Master Rank, and an actual Expansion.
Sunbreak support should last till mid 2023, by that date, we should see a little teaser for the Next MH.
It's important to note that in 2024, the franchise will be 20 years old, so I would expect the next MH to drop in 2024 to celebrate that.
I don't understand why anyone would buy this on steam. The game was made for the bing bing tablet, it's still going to look like shit on your PC. Why not play the portable title on your portable console?
3U > FU > Everything else > massive power gap > Rise
3U is the most distilled version of MH we have to date - no moronic fricking gimmicks or items or mechanics and has the best monster in the game, pic related
Depends on how much you enjoy underwater combat. I can assure you that he's fricking terrifying when you fight him because it takes a small mistake for him to frick your shit up.
>no moronic fricking gimmicks
what is swimming
Not a gimmick and should be fricking brought back. Not sticking with it was a massive fricking mistake and I will forever be upset they scrapped it when it was a natural progression of the game that opens up so many different monsters
2 years ago
Anonymous
>should be fricking brought back
Kek I can't wait for everyone to see how fricking dogshit that was so tribabs can finally shut the frick up about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cope, I was playing 3U a few years back and it was perfectly servicable. If they never scrapped it it would've been perfect by now
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If they never scrapped it it would've been perfect by now
HOLY KEK IT'S ALREADY STARTING TO COPE LMAO
>disabled the shitty volumetric fog.
I don't understand why so many games are adding this
"Yes please wash out all the colors beyond 10 meters this is part of the aesthetic"
this, the ps2, psp and eve 3ds games all look better than rise, because they worked within their limitations. rise is just world downscaled and the aesthetic doesnt work when you cut corners, world looked nice even if it was a bit "dense" in detail, but it was clearly trying to look like the FMV's since MH1. rise on the other hand just looks empty, with flat lighting and plastic textures. had rise stayed with the old engines style pre-world or even done something like use stories art style, i think it would have looked much better
I've grown to hate Rise locales even more with sunbreak.
The fricking last area that is absolutely giant and not only traversing it is a fricking pain in the dick it also filled with nothing but bingbirds.
What a disgusting piece of shit game goddamn
I just want Valstrax and Nergigante to be in the same game so we can have a turf war and settle this debate. Nerg would probably win but idc, it would be a sick fight.
that webm itself is shit, because it's 2 Mounted monsters. neither is dealing damage to the other.
the actual in-game mechanic is okay, but it breaks the flow of the hunt so fricking bad. It also completely deleted the idea of weapons being good at mounting, like IG, because the hunt target has a stupid high mount threshold, while the extra monsters on the map become mountable with a single attack
World was 2 steps forward 1 step back. Rise is just straight up 1 step back. Whoever was in charge of it lost sight of why people liked MH.
Combat has devolved into spamming counters against the new moronic moveset they've given to monsters (who are now hyper spastic) while shitting out a billion damage and like half the weapons revolve around spamming a silkbind move.
They fricked up balance so bad that they didn't even increase the power level of charms because they were already busted and should never have been mixed with the level system for skills
>who are now hyper spastic
I honestly don't know what game people are playing when they say shit like this. Rajang is slow as frick compared to World. Brachydios isn't in the game, but he's been a major fricking spaz since 4U. Shogun has never been more of a freak than when he was Hyperized. Same goes for a lot of monsters, actually.
Malzeno is a great fight, and so are the other two Lords, even though they're pretty easy overall. Valstrax is annoying, but he's mostly got the same rhythm he's always had since GU.
What's this weird narrative being pushed that Rise monsters are SUPER SPASTIC AND HYPER LOL?
it was a bunch of 3rd worlders who could barely make World run but they went really heavy on the graphics update for Iceborne. My 1070 was peaking in a few places.
how is it cope? they updated the base game which fricked up all the mods so the ESL and 3rd world morons went apeshit along with the people who couldn't get the expansion to work. It's literally what we're seeing happen with Rise. Most of those reviews have nothing to do with the content.
how were they not runnig world/iceborne? I first played it on a gtx 660
2 years ago
Anonymous
just google it. idk why you're playing coy, you obviously didn't play this at launch given how many problems there were. I didn't even buy the expansion until 2 months after it came out due to the problems.
https://www.shacknews.com/article/115816/capcom-apologizes-for-mhw-iceborne-pc-launch-issues-promises-fixes-asap
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you obviously didn't play this at launch given how many problems there were
I did. I'm pretty sure iceborne was crashing some times when it launched but I still was able to play it on a gtx 660
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because he's a lying piece of shit or a newbie who started playing last week. The game got tons of mixed reviews because of performance issues, not mods or muh shitty hardware. Even top end PCs were shitting the framerate because they implemented an anti cheat/piracy which checks every second for file integrity.
I had a lot of fun with vanilla Rise on the Switch, but I can't bring myself to play through it again just to play Sunbreak on PC, yet I don't want to buy it for the Switch when it's available on my preferred platform.
Basically, the timed exclusivity and the lack of save transfer has kept me from buying Sunbreak.
Capcom wanted you to double dip but they should have had put some effort in it allowing save transfers. Though I think nintendo would block this anyway.
It's not exactly the same thing, but you can mod a 9999 attack weapon into the game, beat the entire game in an hour, then mod the same charms you had on Switch. Ghetto save transfer.
Mhmm... mismarketing. As another anon said this is basically a portable game ported to a different platform just to grab at the PC market hoping it would catch on like "MH:Didny Worl". But ultimately this is a very obviously a portable game while the previous title was very obviously released on an actual (shitty) computer that a PC can capitalize on.
With Rise you get... more fps I guess? But it was inevitable. Rise sales have functionally mirrored World sales on PC. Everyone who played World has played Rise. Probably a few extra thrown ontop because of sales/etc + hype for Sunbreak regardless if they even make it that far or not. And they will play the next game also regardless of how moronic a port it is. And it will still have fricking Denuvo.
>Rise sales have functionally mirrored World sales on PC
not even close but that's clearly what they hoped for, sadly the exclusivity, the terrible graphics and gameplay made tons of people mad, rise probably erased all the faith people had on this franchise actually evolving instead of just remaking GU 2.0
>not even close
I was talking about PC only sales but after looking closer I was completely fricking up the stats. Rise has actually sold less total and Iceborne alone.
I can't find the numbers for up-to-date PC-only sales so if Steam reviews are a rough estimate then Rise has sold like 1.5 mil PC copies to Worlds over 10 mil.
Falsely advertising it as "Massive", new version of Denuvo being so fricked up that don't recognize the game you bought and breaking Reframe and the gameplay changes, seriously switch skill make arts and mantles look inoffensive in comparison just search for any GS damage sunbreak
For me its the unironic comments that go like >I started with G/GU and I can say this game feels way more like classic monhun to me than World
that makes me wish for our civilization to become dust
Only posers who pretend to have played any of the older titles say shit like that. GU is mention commonly like that since it's on the switch as the other monster hunter game (that isn't a turn-based rpg).
Last I checked, it was performance related, and a bunch of people being told by the game that they didn't have the right to play it or even having their save deleted.
Thankfully, Works On My Machine™.
There's more to performance than just framerate affected by graphic fidelity. Some people are reporting crashes, online connection issues and stuttering.
Quest count should really not be your barometer for a good game. There are plenty of terrible quests in every monster Hunter game that we just ignore and you know this.
Ok. Monster diversity is a step up from World as well. That one was mostly flying wyvern, brute wyvern, and Kushala skeleton Elder spam. Rise actually has variety.
Why are you using the number of quests to judge the DLC’s quality? That doesn’t make sense
Also, Iceborne technically had infinite quests because of the investigations, which were a great game mechanic and I’m mad they dropped it in Rise
If you’re talking about the designs, you’re fricking moronic. Look how they massacred the Brachydios switch axe. Then look at how faithfully they recreated Valstrax’s gear in Rise.
Console war homosexualry. Same thing happened during World's period as the new game, although it wasn't quite as bad as it is now. Fully expect the same shit to happen again in reverse when MH6 comes out.
Unironically just angry mindbroken snoys. Just wait, trendies won’t seethe nearly this hard once MH6 isn’t on switch or whatever Nintendo has by then. And there will be just as much seething from the snoyboys when the next portable title is again Nintendo ad PC only.
>trendies won’t seethe nearly this hard once MH6 isn’t on switch
The seethe from tendies when World was announced was astronomical, what makes you say this? >Actually, it won't sell like crazy
Switch
It severely limits the scope of the game. The hunts have to be shorter, the game easier and the smaller scale.
There's just no reason to play it over World, if people look at the steam store and see Rise beside World, they'll assume Rise is a generation out of date.
>Switch >It severely limits the scope of the game.
This is your brain on console war homosexualry.
Generations Ultimate was on Switch and that game has some harder fights than anything in World.
Man, I know I'm in the minority for saying this, but if MH had continued with the Hunting Styles and Hunting Arts, I 100% would've been fine with it. It felt right, being able to change /how/ you used your weapon, and the Arts really just needed rebalancing. Adept and Valor needed real tradeoffs, but the rest felt great.
Aerial IG was the perfect sweet spot between the air combat meme we have now, and the mount spam we had in 4/4U
I completely agree; I would have fricking loved if Hunting Styles were refined and rebalanced instead of scrapped.
Adept blocking was satisfying as frick and even things that sounded awful on paper like Aerial GS turned out to be really fun.
God, Aerial GS was some absolutely cursed fun. It and Aerial Hammer was what carried me through my first completed Deviant line, Snowbaron Lagombi. Just bonking that fricking rabbit over and over and over.
frick it, once i farm a set in Sunbreak, I'm playing GU again. What Weapon+Style should I run this time?
I mained aerial GS - it was just so satisfying even if half the time I ate shit from half a pixel of a claw touching me mid-air, especially against a tigrex that roared you out of the sky
>worldsperms
I don't get this, every MH has brought in a shit ton of new players, why is world being criticized for it? And why is it just MH threads that use the term "-sperm" its so weird.
Because before World MH wasn't nearly as much popular outside of Japan, and many newcomers won't even try with older games because they automatically assume World is the best thing ever
I dunno man, to me it seems like the b***hing about imagined newbies is a lot more cancerous than newbies themselves.
>imagined newbies
It's not imagined. The newbies outnumber the oldguard and judging by how World and Rise played out we're quickly devolving into an action based game like we always memed about with frontier or God Eater. The newbies just eat up anything the devs get until many, many months later they take a step back and go "Okay, maybe this wasn't as good as I thought" but immediately pre-order the next game.
The sad truth is there's brainrot in the video game community - once an IP hits a critical mass of players there'll always have a large subset of them just buy the game regardless of quality. Just look to WoW for an example of how bad it can get
You are quite literally imagining something that likely doesn't exist, and even if it did it wouldn't have a noticeable influence on game mechanic trajectory. Thinking that the devs at Capcom sit down and say "Oh yeah, I'd like to insert (x) mechanic to spite the oldgays" is peak fricking delusion.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"Oh yeah, I'd like to insert (x) mechanic to spite the oldgays"
Bad faith: the post. The devs don't do that, they go "Lets push the game in a new direction. Oh, look at all the people who like this new direction! Lets continue down this path."
There are devs who have done what you mentioned in bad faith though: see Saints Row devs except it's not just a mechanic but bigger
Because before World MH wasn't nearly as much popular outside of Japan, and many newcomers won't even try with older games because they automatically assume World is the best thing ever
you have to understand, nintendies will NEVER, EVER recover from world, for them is like their wife got fricked by another man, in public, while 28 million people cheered, they got humiliated by >the graphics >the gameplay >the roster >the sales >the player retention >the content >the directors saying that was always their vision of the game
but most importantly of all >the fact that their fisher price tablet couldn't run the game without exploding
world still FOREVER live rent free in their minds and they will live in fear of MH 6 being another big success, further sunking them into depression. Truly heartbreaking.
Why do you think Nintendo fans didn’t just play world on PC? Most of them did and they enjoyed it. We just prefer rise because it’s literally better in terms of gameplay and monster diversity.
Why do you think Nintendo fans didn’t just play world on PC? Most of them did and they enjoyed it. We just prefer rise because it’s literally better in terms of gameplay and monster diversity.
Why do you moron tendies try to lump us in with you? Nintendo consoles are by far the most emulated, so there's no reason to own a swich unless you're a third world poorhomosexual. And every sony game is coming out on PC anyways, kel. sucks to be a poorgay
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nintendo consoles are by far the most emulated
because there's something to emulate
It "literally" is not, the hell are you talking about? It will always be an unfair comparison because World had title updates Rise didn't and now same with Iceborn/sunbreak. I don't know what world you're from where a smaller number is "literally" bigger than a larger one
And I like sunbreak more than Iceborn because the addition of styles is much better than the addition of clutch claw, but that doesn't mean there's not presently more to do in iceborn you know?
>World had title updates Rise didn't and now same with Iceborn/sunbreak >Rise's launch roster was already larger than World's, and had more skeletons besides >World had 5 TUs before Iceborne that added 5 monsters >Rise had 2 TUs before Sunbreak that added 9 monsters (6 if you don't count Apexes) >Iceborne had 5 TUs that added 7 monsters >Sunbreak is planned to have at least 3 TUs that will add (probably) 8+ monsters
what planet are you living on, my dude
Why are you equating Tendies with idorts? The average idorts may own a PC and a Switch, but the average Tendies only own a Switch. Tendies are literally the biggest shitposters of emulation and Steam Deck threads.
t. A PCgay who owns a 3DS and a Switch just for playing MonHun games
You're a fricking idiot.
Like holy shit you can not be this fricking dumb.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I fricking hate moronic Tendies who shamelessly keep trying to push this PC x Nintendo Alliance meme and riding on PChads' coattails. I don't give a frick about your Mario, Zelda, and other toddlershit. I'm glad that Rise & Sunbreak are on PC because I don't have to put up with 480p 25fps experience.
Because it was the most recent one. Now that Rise is out, notice how many people suddenly like World. By the time we get to MH7, Ganker will be claiming that they were "old-school" MH players because they started with World.
I bought rise and it was weird, didn't feel like a real game after elden ring.
If you morons dupe me into buying world and that doesn't feel like a real game either then I'll be sad
World does have much higher production value if that's what you're looking for.
2 years ago
Anonymous
genuine complain about world, why do the weapons look like shit and lack unique models for monster lines? That shits baffling to me cus the armor looks really awesome and detailed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, World is far from perfect, and whilst I generally enjoy it, the state of the weapon designs in the game was absolutely shameful.
2 years ago
Anonymous
1 year of Zorah Magdaros. ONE WHOLE YEAR of dev going to making that shitshow work. So yeah, that's probably the culprit for bone weapons. Not enough dev time left.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was annoyed by this too
On the bright side, you can eventually unlock layered weapons to change their models
I think world is better in that regard, although most monsters will shrug off most attacks that aren't standard. Only thing that might throw you for a loop is the reduced movement, you can't wirebug up cliffs to skip sections.
Rise sucked, but sunbreak is surprisingly good. If you ever played the Armored Core games it's like 4/V -> 4A and VD. The little improvements they make take it a long way.
Base rise is awful though and anyone saying otherwise is insane
>MH "fans" b***hing about how "Dumbed down" and "Easy" world is. >Rise comes out. Even easier, even more dumbed down and even more casual. >Crickets.wav
I don't save shitpost images but theres one that lists all the bullshit complaints about World's QoL improvements suddenly flipping around when Rise was announced. I remember watching the reveal trailer and there was so much crossfire. Hypegays couldn't figure out if they wanted to praise Rise because of the improvements it brought form world or to hate it because they had to double down that the World shit was bad. It seems like things evened out at "Rise is just... its just better okay!" But I'm not gonna forget how much people fell over themselves trying to justify their moronic opinions.
>can replay freedom unite just fine >can replay tri just fine >can replay 3U just fine >can replay 4U just fine >can replay world just fine >cant stand rise's DMC gameplay for more than 5 minutes
started with 3u. 4u is the best game in the series by a fairly large margin, but rise has the most fun factor due to all the wacky shit you can do.
world has all of the slow tedium of the old games with none of the quality pacing 4u has or the fun shit gen u or rise has.
you have to understand, nintendies will NEVER, EVER recover from world, for them is like their wife got fricked by another man, in public, while 28 million people cheered, they got humiliated by >the graphics >the gameplay >the roster >the sales >the player retention >the content >the directors saying that was always their vision of the game
but most importantly of all >the fact that their fisher price tablet couldn't run the game without exploding
world still FOREVER live rent free in their minds and they will live in fear of MH 6 being another big success, further sunking them into depression. Truly heartbreaking.
I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology. There's multiple interviews with devs from even before World, but especially about World itself, about how immersion and believably for monsters is a high priority for the series. You had 4U babies claim the series was always just an anime grindan game so they were mad that World was toning shit down due to some mysterious "western influence." But nope, this is always the game the core team wanted to make and you can see the mind breaking in action in this very thread.
>I don't like MH being wacky, simple as. >when pic related has existed since 2004
This series has been wacky from the very first day with the monster designs, game mechanics, and player animations. It's not that you don't enjoy how silly Monster Hunter has been, but disgruntled at how flashy and over the top things are currently. Which is fine and nobody would argue otherwise, but you honestly can't sit there and say the series has been playing itself straight for X amount of years because it never really did.
>I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology
what about the damage numbers, the fact that you could for the first time see the monster's health on something that wasn't their actions, restock mid hunts, combine with 100% of accuracy and not having to manage the inventory at all?
>I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology. There's multiple interviews with devs from even before World, but especially about World itself, about how immersion and believably for monsters is a high priority for the series. You had 4U babies claim the series was always just an anime grindan game so they were mad that World was toning shit down due to some mysterious "western influence." But nope, this is always the game the core team wanted to make and you can see the mind breaking in action in this very thread.
this is exactly what i've been saying for a while. you got all these tendies that started with 4U and think the series has always been super flashy and filled with super bright oversaturated colors. world is literally a return to some feeling of being grounded, same as the PS2 games and to an extent the psp games. but tendies think its "western pandering" because it doesnt look like anime vomit
the second someone says 'tendies' about a game that most people on Ganker probably play on PC I know any and all of his seething comes from being a No Gaems Snoy
>tendies that started with 4U
Tendies started with tri, you can't even get your consolewarring straight homosexual
>World didnt try to pander to the western market >bone weapons everywhere >striving for realism and graphix compared to other MH games
MH was never a one system series, so your tendies argument falls flat.
no not really, it just proved i was right. say one thing bad about the 3ds titles and the nintendo defense force comes out of the woodwork
2 years ago
Anonymous
>MH was only on the 3DS
Youre one stupid homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i never said that
2 years ago
Anonymous
Most people started on FU on the PSP anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
>say something moronic >people naturally point out you are moronic >it's because "m-muh nintendo..."
moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what did i say that was moronic ? all i pointed out was that people that started with 4U and the 3ds games tend to be ignorant about the original direction of the series
2 years ago
Anonymous
>what did i say that was moronic ?
see
>I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology. There's multiple interviews with devs from even before World, but especially about World itself, about how immersion and believably for monsters is a high priority for the series. You had 4U babies claim the series was always just an anime grindan game so they were mad that World was toning shit down due to some mysterious "western influence." But nope, this is always the game the core team wanted to make and you can see the mind breaking in action in this very thread.
this is exactly what i've been saying for a while. you got all these tendies that started with 4U and think the series has always been super flashy and filled with super bright oversaturated colors. world is literally a return to some feeling of being grounded, same as the PS2 games and to an extent the psp games. but tendies think its "western pandering" because it doesnt look like anime vomit
>world is literally a return to some feeling of being grounded
2 years ago
Anonymous
is literally a return to some feeling of being grounded
is that wrong though ? its much more toned down compared to 4U, both in monster designs and art direction. not to mention all the people at the reveal complaining that it wasnt colorful enough, or that it was too "realistic"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>is that wrong though ?
Yes, you are completely wrong which is why people are calling you moronic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you still wont explain how its wrong
2 years ago
Anonymous
see
>I don't like MH being wacky, simple as. >when pic related has existed since 2004
This series has been wacky from the very first day with the monster designs, game mechanics, and player animations. It's not that you don't enjoy how silly Monster Hunter has been, but disgruntled at how flashy and over the top things are currently. Which is fine and nobody would argue otherwise, but you honestly can't sit there and say the series has been playing itself straight for X amount of years because it never really did.
>I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology
what about the damage numbers, the fact that you could for the first time see the monster's health on something that wasn't their actions, restock mid hunts, combine with 100% of accuracy and not having to manage the inventory at all?
>World didnt try to pander to the western market >bone weapons everywhere >striving for realism and graphix compared to other MH games
MH was never a one system series, so your tendies argument falls flat.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Triggered stylecucks think it's moronic, and no shit they do, they are exactly the morons that deserve to not be catered to because every style game is garbage.
Now us FU/Tri chads, we think World is based.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Now us FU/Tri chads
You played neither.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bwahahahahahhahahaha!!! started with Dos you pathetic little man!
2 years ago
Anonymous
wrong - I'd get my wii u out and post a picture just to prove it too but I'm like 99% sure I wiped the SD card that I hacked it with. Oh god my save file, stupid fricking mistakes
2 years ago
Anonymous
>FU and tri
based anon, those two have the best art direction pre-world, although i think p3rd deserves a mention too
2 years ago
Anonymous
>its much more toned down compared to 4U
anon it having realistic graphics is not being grounded
you still wont explain how its wrong
explain why it grounded then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
the monsters, or at least the ones new to world, went back to being based of dinosaurs and other prehistoric life, nudging away from the goofier and outlandish designs like zamtrios. armor designs went back to the gen 1 and 2 versions, which are also much more toned down compared to their 4th gen versions. the color pallet is much more natural and not as saturated. the more realistic graphics help but MH since the PS2 was always going for a more realistic look. not photorealistic, but realistic none the less
2 years ago
Anonymous
>went back to being based of dinosaurs and other prehistoric life
I'd say it's debatable since not every monster was anjanath. great jagras is literally an iguana with a gimmick that is basically copied from zamitrios you just mentioned. besides most of the newcomers from world are shitmons and nobody likes them
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's not 'going back to its roots', that's importing shit because it's the base essentials. World did its job in giving Capcom a starting point to recycle assets for another 5-10 years before they have to go through this song and dance again.
>World didnt try to pander to the western market >bone weapons everywhere >striving for realism and graphix compared to other MH games
MH was never a one system series, so your tendies argument falls flat.
>I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology
what about the damage numbers, the fact that you could for the first time see the monster's health on something that wasn't their actions, restock mid hunts, combine with 100% of accuracy and not having to manage the inventory at all?
World plays the closest like it
Well World does let you beat up on ragdolls that can't fight back lol. Jokes aside, people do like to just throw comparisons out there without actually having played anything. Pic kind of related.
I know you're meming but I feel like I gotta throw it out there for lurkers that enemies in DMC do indeed fight back. I've seen this shit posted and taken at face value, it really irks me that people out there really think that's true when its not.
Funny how despite having a smaller team and budget, Sunbreak is better than Iceborne in almost every way. Instead of introducing a single new mechanic that was forced, intrusive, and that the entire game was balanced around, it introduced a bunch of smaller ones that EXPAND on stuff from the base game. MASSIVE EXPANSION. Also Citidel > Guiding Lands and Malzeno >>> Velkhana.
I don't know if this is true in Rise, but in GU almost all your damage in a hunt came from arts, making you have to design your playstyle around it and I fricking hated it. For all the b***hing people do about CC, it doesn't speed up your hunt times THAT much, and at least its more involved than "push button, get damage"
>I don't know if this is true in Rise,
For some weapons it's true for Rise/Sunbreak. Well maybe not almost all your damage, but a fairly significant portion.
As for crutch claw, a glorified qte for wallbang/tenderizing every 90s is just too invasive. Arts/Silkbinds are annoying because I don't like having meter management when I'm playing a weapon that doesn't traditionally have it, but at the end of the day it's just another move. If mounting mechanics were more involved (like say Dragon's Dogma) clutch claw would probably be more interesting, but there's just not enough to it.
Rampages should have been fun. Monster Hunter tower defense is fine on paper but my god did I hate playing it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rampages were fun with friends at first, the issue is they just took fricking forever and were a snorefest if you were solo because the monsters focus you 9 out of 10
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Rampages were fun
Do you also find hitting your own head with a hammer fun?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Rampages were fun with friends at first
They were never fun.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Terrible to solo (huge issue on PC in some regions), not challenging enough, and too long (if they were challenging length would be an even bigger issue). I just don't think it's worth the dev time to make them good. Just keep the turrent mechanics around for future siege battles. Ideally, there would be no siege battles but since the devs can't resist, maybe they can use rampage mechanics to make them not a complete snorefest.
>Removes all punishment >Has zero i-frames
How I know you gays don't actually play the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>get hit >wirebug out >get hit >wirebug out
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Get hit >Lose half your HP >Wirebug >Get hit mid wirebug because every monster does a double attack >Die
Lol moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
now do it using your head like a normal person
2 years ago
Anonymous
Post your Scorned proofs
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you'd be using your head you'd stop wirefalling and wasting wire bugs that could be used for offensive play.
A player that uses wirefall is a player that gets hit and sucks at hunting monsters.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Get evade window 4 >Get wirestep >Literally can't be hit
Explain this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Again why not go for damage and actually try being a decent player instead of a fricking casual
2 years ago
Anonymous
for the bow I needed two slots for the evade extender and I literally couldn't be hit. default evade distance was gimped af and you just couldn't avoid some things (especially rajang) but put 2 EE on and you're flying across the ground.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>Get evade window 4 >Rise
Now we all know you didn't even play the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>Get evade window 4 >Rise
Now we all know you didn't even play the game.
I don't get this evade window meme, does an extra 9 frames of invincibility on top of your default 14 actually matter? Evade extender is better because you're gonna roll halfway across the map and have control of literally every every encounter. If you really are that much of a shitter that out need extra iframes download that mod from Nexus that gives you 60 iframes
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't get this evade window meme
Cause it's not a meme. Everybody who actually played Rise and got good at it knows that EE is more useful.
Evade window was decent in World and some sets had points by default, so only lying shitposters who never really played Rise would pretend that's what you'd use, assuming that the same skills would carry over. This thread is full of such disingenuous people
2 years ago
Anonymous
wirebugs are objectively stupid, you get instant recovery from a hit to a safe spot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except you don't there's no i-frames you can be roar'd or combo'd to death. 9/10 it's better to just not wirebug fall anyway because of the cooldown and how much better switch skills are.
now do it using your head like a normal person
>Bro wirebugs make the game brainless >Bro use your head
I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than spamming low tier bait in MH threads on cooldown.
I legitimately cannot imagine what led you to this point in your life.
2 years ago
Anonymous
As someone who plays greatsword, it is insane I can reposition any time now by hitting two buttons. Before I had to actually block if I was caught out, now I never have.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure GS gets a counter -> TCS which is why it's one of the most broken weapons and it's not the only weapon who got that treatment
2 years ago
Anonymous
True but you need to unlock it. The sheath move moves you a great deal horizontally while giving you an attack buff. It's a great panic button that increases your next combo on top. It's an insane boost available as soon as you start Rise
No its not, it was actually pretty fun and not nearly as game breaking as fricking DMC infinite counters anime moves bullshit.
The problem was IB nerfing part damage to account for it, making runs artificially take longer if you ignored the mechanic. Still miles better than Styles shit and also worked great with multiplayer, when only 1 of the 4 hunters needed to actually use the clutch claw.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nah it was shallow, boring and repetitive, absolute fricking dogshit
I don't know if this is true in Rise, but in GU almost all your damage in a hunt came from arts, making you have to design your playstyle around it and I fricking hated it. For all the b***hing people do about CC, it doesn't speed up your hunt times THAT much, and at least its more involved than "push button, get damage"
It's true in Rise. Like half or more than half the weapons revolve around your silkbind moves. DB wants to fly up in the air and spam their silkbind, Lance wants to spam dashes, CB wants to do their chainsaw ability for one build, GS wants to get the counters which I'm pretty sure is a silkbind, SA too. In fact I think every single weapon besides the range ones rely on silkbind moves as their core damage
I don't know about the others, but you're wrong about SA.
The counter is actually ass for anything besides wakeups and roars.
It's pretty much only used for power phials. SA is all about chaincrit and rapid morph.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>DB wants to fly up in the air and spam their silkbind
lmao moron
Pretty sure GS gets a counter -> TCS which is why it's one of the most broken weapons and it's not the only weapon who got that treatment
2 years ago
Anonymous
>TA
2 years ago
Anonymous
cope
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Speedrunshit >ZSD spam
What the frick did this homosexual mean by this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're welcome to show a better build killing monsters faster anon, surely you can backup what you say
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're welcome to try doing this same thing right now without carting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Speedrunning is not indicative of how the game is normally played you fricking moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're welcome to try doing this same thing right now without carting.
cope harder Blacks - y'all talk shit and got nothing to show
2 years ago
Anonymous
>oops got hit once better reset >oops got hit once better reset >oops got hit once better reset >oops got hit once better reset >oops got hit once better reset
Do you realize how moronic you are?
2 years ago
Anonymous
How can you get hit if you just spam counter on your silkbind? Or in the case of DB, getting hit once it a few seconds of loss so unless he's getting hit constantly back to back the time wouldn't be too far off. It'd be one thing if you were talking about the Black person tier final boss armor sets with the blood leeches that drain your health but I purposely avoided them because I anticipated your moronic "argument"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because that's not how the counter works you dumb fricking shitposter, even in that video he isn't spamming the counter.
He's literally using ZSD soaring combo to negate knockback and shock traps while manipulating the A.I.'s wakeup reaction to loop it's moveset.
Switch axe counter takes up two wirebugs, has 2 second windup, and needs you to input AS the monster attacks for it to work.
I know you're just shitposting but you look like such a dumbass to someone whose actually played the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>to someone whose actually played the game.
just because you make a moronic post doesn't mean you actually "play the game", you've proven jack shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Prove what homosexual he literally uses ZSD soaring in the video, are you trying to claim he doesn't use ZSD soaring or shock traps? holy shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are you so obsessed with that you mongoloid? That doesn't take away from anything I've said and it's EASIER to do that than timing a counter
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's true in Rise. Like half or more than half the weapons revolve around your silkbind moves. >GS wants to get the counters which I'm pretty sure is a silkbind, SA too. >Posts speedruns, which aren't indicative of how normal gameplay works, but even in speedrun 90% of the speedrun is ZSD soaring spam >Literally only uses the counter for roars like I said >Can clearly see counter has both start up and needs an input as an attack comes to work >Literally rather use switch charger
Like I get you're shitposting but at least put the effort in.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Your post doesn't address fricking anything, why did you even make it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>BRO SA USES COUNTERS LIKE GS >No they don't >YOU AREN'T ADDRESSING ANYTHING REEEEE
homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>BRO SA USES COUNTERS LIKE GS >No they don't >YOU AREN'T ADDRESSING ANYTHING REEEEE
homosexual.
samegay
2 years ago
Anonymous
Take your estrogen TAtroony.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh so you're a legit schiz.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>get called out >resort to MUH MEDS rhetoric
cope more
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Moeshit spammer >Probably gay or autistic >Thinks someone would photoshop a fake screenshot >shitposting mh of all games
I know I really shouldn't give you anymore (You)s after the speedrun shit, but honestly, do you have no games to play right now? is this really how you get enjoyment in life?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>photoshop
Do you not know what inspect element is? I knew I was talking to a mongoloid but I didn't know it was this bad
I'm fine with styles and arts in spirit but they've went WAY fricking overboard with it in Rise. There is such a thing as too much customization - at least it allows them to experiment. I fricking hope they remove wyvernstake and use the new one they made
>Just look at a completely different game from a different genre and compare >5 customizable skills, most with only 2 options, is too much.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ignores the second part of my sentence
kys Black person
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's cute that you think minmaxing is new or worse, and that the culprit is customization and not the influx of newbies and monhun media peddling "top 5 build" shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's cute that you think minmaxing is new or worse >or worse >and that the culprit is customization and not the influx of newbies and monhun media peddling "top 5 build" shit.
So can you form a coherent sentence? You seem to contradict yourself in your own post.
2 years ago
Anonymous
To be clear anon. Customization is not the issue for minmaxing. It's content creators and TA fricktards who think this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR7TlM2ZaPI
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is what regular gameplay is like (and attempt to emulate it through muh meta build). Nothing wrong with switch skills though (or hunting styles), all they do is give you different ways to play.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nothing wrong with switch skills though (or hunting styles
Objectively wrong, go back to GU homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
>being scared of options
kek. Just pick a grug weapon and pretend they don't exist.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>grug weapon
You mean hammer? Because that's the only honest weapon left
2 years ago
Anonymous
switch skills are shit >longsword is overpowered >GS skills all suck
>Instead of introducing a single new mechanic that was forced, intrusive, and that the entire game was balanced around,
The meta current revolves around spamming counters with silkbind because the devs made every monster spastic, aggro, and with better tracking and increasing hunter power so much that a fricking GS can kill steve in 13 hits and that number is just going to get lower as builds get more optimized.
They also introduced wyvernriding which is the most obnoxious iteration to mounting they could've ever done. >hey, what if we let the players play pokemon on monsters? >Surely this won't get old 10 minutes into the game >Lets also make make them drop up to 10 monster parts per monster, give free damage, and chain stun the monster so there's even more free damage
Wyvernriding is basically crutchclaw in spirit for how impactful it is
>Wyvernriding is basically crutchclaw in spirit for how impactful it is
This isn't even close, worldsperms don't even have any idea why clutch claw was awful.
Wyvern riding happens once every hunt, twice if you try really hard to make it happen. Clutch claw had to be done every minute to return the values to base world.
It literally changes the way you play, it changes the entire flow of the hunt.
You can get 18 monster parts for wyvern riding with the golden bug, I'd say that's pretty impactful and changes the flow of the hunt to always do it, especially when it gives you about 1k free damage and whatever damage you do while it's downed
Red bug is the only one that makes Riding worth it, and, even then, late game builds would get comparable damage just wall slamming 3 times into attacking their openings on the head/weakspots
>Red bug is the only one that makes Riding worth it
Are you a TA troony going for optimal DPS? Then sure, maybe, but for pure parts? You get 6 parts per monster you wrangle if you can do it while buffed by the gold bug
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anon they literally give you an option to disable it on the menu. holy shit at least play the game
That's not what's being discussed you dipshit, actually use your eyes and read for once. why would I give up 6 free parts per monster? Are you going to tell people just don't use crutch claw and deal with fights that takes 5 times as long?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>WOW THAT MECHANIC IS SO OBNOXIOUS >I'll still use it tho
kek
2 years ago
Anonymous
Welcome to 4U, GU, World, and now Rise. Enjoy your stay anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
the thing is that this game literally gave an option for people to disable it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Which is moot because there's real gains both in time saved and parts gained in the mechanic. It's like saying you don't have to use the crutch claw - just don't press the button for it but not doing so leads to you have to kill the monster for longer than is required. Even in 4U you could just not use your arts but the game is not designed around not using your arts. If you're skilled enough you can bypass using arts but no matter how skilled you are in Rise not using wyvern riding is ALWAYS going to result in 3-6 monster parts you could've gotten. There's no way to skillfully make up that difference
2 years ago
Anonymous
>4U you could just not use your arts
Black folk who shit on 4U don't even know it doesn't play like GU
2 years ago
Anonymous
I misspoke homosexual, I know 4U had wystones
2 years ago
Anonymous
>4U >arts
lel. besides that the clutch claw was necessary ebcause they rebalanced monsters areas based on the fact that you should be using the claw to tenderize. no monsters is designed with wyvern riding on mind
2 years ago
Anonymous
>no monsters is designed with wyvern riding on mind
Then why does every monster have its own animation? Why can you only ride every monster once?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Then why does every monster have its own animation?
it's literally just their normal attacks anon. there isn't an attack that the monsters do while wyvern riding that isn't in their move pool
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Why can you only ride every monster once?
you can actually ride them multiple times. It's been changed to a Status Effect, like Blast and Paralysis, and they have thresholds you have to reach to make them rideable. Only certain attacks (mostly Silkbinds) increase it, though.
Also, the hunt target gets a massive bonus to its mount threshold resistance, so you normally only get the 1 mount
Wait, Rise is a side game? Now I feel like I wasted money.
yes and no.
It's still a MH game, with all the trimmings. It's just not a "numbered" title like 4 and World were, according to their development cycle. Think of it like Fallout 3 and New Vegas, with Rise being the New Vegas release.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Here, have something a bit more relevant to Monster Hunter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You have to use it because you are handicapping yourself if you dont
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You have to use it
Only if you're shit at the game
2 years ago
Anonymous
Being shit or not doesn't impact on the 3-6 extra loot you'll get and the time saved getting them - can't even address that anon's point that not using it is handicapping yourself and making you farm stuff for longer. I don't know about you but I'm not farming almudron longer than I need to be and if my parts can be gotten by bashing his head in 3 times I'll do it
2 years ago
Anonymous
What's the point of playing this game if you're just doing everything possible to not have to hunt a monster? Its one thing to always bring a stealing cat, for the chance at rare drops in the rewards. but why are you being so autistically adamant that you "have" to use riding, and you "have" to get those shiny drops that are 80% of the time just another scale/feather, instead of just playing the fricking game?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What's the point of playing this game if you're just doing everything possible to not have to hunt a monster
Not all monsters are created equally - not all content is equally fun. >Its one thing to always bring a stealing cat, for the chance at rare drops in the rewards
Why is that any difference? The net outcome is less time hunting than you would otherwise for parts? It's cognitive dissonance to try to separate the two. Both are intended to be used and both are easy to do and you have to intentionally engage in the mechanics to enable them.
Nothing is stopping you from not using wirebugs, or palicos/palamutes, or even changing your switch skill or using them at all. You can pretend like it's 3U. You don't "HAVE" to engage with them
2 years ago
Anonymous
the difference is that your Palico doesn't stop the hunt for you play Rockem Sockem Monster Rider for 3 more feathers, and instead just passively steals shit to give you at the end of a hunt. If you want to use riding, go ahead. Some of us just use it as an opening to do real damage to a monster instead. just stop pushing this absolutely moronic idea that you "have" to use it, and that those 3 shiny drops will ever matter.
So a new MH comes out next year? Is it gonna be on Switch again or consoles so it looks prettier again?
if the dates didn't get fricked by Covid, then we should see info for MH6 releasing next year, yeah. Odds are the games are now split into an alternating Main/Branch games, with main games going on big boy consoles, and the branch games going to switch.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wait, Rise is a side game? Now I feel like I wasted money.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't get it anon is either the game is bing shit that is super easy and you don't have to grind anymore because it give you all its drops for free
Or YOU MUST DO WIVERN RIDING OR ELSE YOU WILL SPEND THE NEXT YEAR GRINDING FOR ONE ARMOR
What is it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't get it anon is either the game is bing shit that is super easy and you don't have to grind anymore because it give you all its drops for free
Whoa anon, are you just going to put words in my mouth like that? Like I actually said anything remotely like that? Does this look like plebbit to you? Take me to dinner first before you put things in my mouth next time
>changes the flow of the hunt to always do it
moron you only get parts for 3 hits, that's like 15 secs of your entire hunt if you're desperately farming materials that shinys are a big deal to you
that's even less minuscule than the older mounting system, not to mention you can just simply not do it, even TA trannies skip it because 1k is literally nothing to what you can actually deal
saying it's as a big deal as the clutch claw is disingenuous
>moron you only get parts for 3 hits >he doesn't know
Do you not play sunbreak? Why are you so confident in what you say despite spewing ignorance in your first fricking sentence?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>uhm broo it's so awful i don't want to do it, wait let me buff myself to make it even longer
dumbfrick
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah? Where else are you going to move that goalpost anon? Did you know that if you're farming parts you actually yourself time by wyvern riding? You can even use the spare parts for zenny or meldings! Imagine that! Could save you an entire 11-18 minutes that you would kill the monster if you just need a few common pieces too!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Kek it's not the game's fault if you're that desperate for parts that you're abusing a mechanic. You can't say the same about clutch claw because wyvern riding REWARDS you for going out of your way to grind for parts, clutch claw FRICKS YOU OVER for not using it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>abusing a mechanic >playing the game the intended way is abusing a mechanic
Do you even think before you type your post?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the intended way
False, just because they let you bring 10 potions doesn't mean you're supposed to eat 10 potions
>increasing hunter power so much that a fricking GS can kill steve in 13 hits and that number is just going to get lower as builds get more optimized
Bro, that was always something GS could do. Big fricking damage, in the fewest number of hits.
That's nice, but that's not what I was replying to. You can't b***h about GS damage when it was literally always the premiere big damage number weapon.
And, if you played at all in the older games, you'd know that GS was one of the most mobile weapons because the CritDraw playstyle spent 90% of the hunt waiting for the right attack to knock the monster the frick out.
>90% of the hunt waiting for the right attack
Yeah, because they couldn't just counter/power armor through attacks so they had to, you know, use their brain. That's the entire complaint - the uptime of GS is too high and it's overtuned. It's the entire reason why range weapons are so fricking busted
2 years ago
Anonymous
just the critdraw style tho, that was absolutely overshadowed by TCS and hunter arts
I just played and people were monster wrangling in my game - what was your point? Oh wait, you're a min/maxing TA troony solo player
You can get 18 monster parts for wyvern riding with the golden bug, I'd say that's pretty impactful and changes the flow of the hunt to always do it, especially when it gives you about 1k free damage and whatever damage you do while it's downed
anon they literally give you an option to disable it on the menu. holy shit at least play the game
I don't know. I can understand having a favorite between the two but they're both so similar I have no idea what the hell is going on in these people's heads that like one but hate the other.
Some of it is sony fanboys, also bear in mind people come here to shitpost for the sake of it and then on top of that there's an unironic army of pajeets shilling and counter shilling. Don't use Ganker as a metric to gauge a games quality unless it's universally panned.
>i just like monster hunter, why there's such rivalry between world and rise, both are solid MH games
One is the natural evolution of classic MH on the big screen for home consoles
The other is the crippled bastard child trying to be spiderman
>damage numbers on >bowgun >not using mod to make the ui smaller >using rampages, a mode that resembles so little of Rise's content it's removed in Sunbreak, as an argument for anythinh
homosexual
Just because it was discontinued doesn't make it right you mongoloid. Whoever okayed it is still okaying shit in Rise. It's the same homosexual who okayed the introduction of charms and their power level, the same homosexual who okayed monsters being more aggro and giving everyone fricking counters to shit out high powered moves, and it's the same homosexual who nerfed food so you'd have to go collect fricking birds
Because there are groups / individuals that make it their entire identity to hate things and create rivalries like it's sports.
These same individuals barely play the games because they're almost entirely online waiting for a thread to be made to camp with pre-written notepad dumps and images shitting on the subject matter.
Same issue across the entire website, see the disco elysium posters that have to deal with the one weirdo still going on about communism.
For MH its 100% Worlds fault. Being a massive success literally broke tendies, I've never seen so much butthurt and whinning like when it released, it was truly phenomenal. Ever since that MH discussions will always be tainted by consolewar homosexualry, can't talk shit on rise cause its the best thing ever since its NOT on a snoy console.
This will be an endless loop for the fanbase, just wait for MH6 be the worst thing ever from the minute the 5-seconds teaser drops.
>Ever since that MH discussions will always be tainted by consolewar homosexualry
Nah see you're wrong about that there was console warring over the psp - 3ds shit.
You're also a moron tribalgayging when the problem is you care too much about the perception of a game on this shit website.
MH thread have always been comfy, love discussing monsters and weapons but it is now impossible because of greasy salty console homosexuals.
Yeah I'll always be salty anon.
>implying millenials aren't
Black person you are literally the same with your shittendo.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>proving my point
no millennials aren't as brand loyalist as zoomers
2 years ago
Anonymous
You pretty much are. Both snoys and tendies are mostly millennials.
2 years ago
Anonymous
at this point? no, zoomers have become the main userbase of both Ganker and the gaming industry as a whole, that's why every game company is attempting to appeal to them
my point wasn't that millenials were never brand loyalist, they were, but the way zoomers are brand loyalist is something even more cancerous, whatever brand they dislike or love is central to their egos and identities in a way that wasn't as common back in the day
2 years ago
Anonymous
PS3 time was worse.
The current generation is nothing compared to millennial console wars.
2 years ago
Anonymous
vehemently disagree, hell by sheer virtue of the fact that ps3/360 actually had funny memes alone that wasn't the case, the vitriol now is on a whole other level, much more bitter
2 years ago
Anonymous
All those memes were made by PC players.
Snoys were absolutely insufferable. Don't remember tendies much they were in a cuckshed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>All those memes were made by PC players.
rawfl aight then peace
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is that you Jason?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Zoomers don't even play video games how are they brand loyalists to something they don't consume? This sounds like peak late millennial cope
REMINDER
Early millennials (1980-1989) grew up with Nintendo and became the onions chugging tendies that play their switch while Tyrone fricks their wife
Late millennials (1990-1996)
Grew up with Sega and PlayStations counter culture garbage and want video games to be seen as art so they play 30 hour walking simulators with shit stories and pretend they're fine art
T. 49 year old
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Zoomers don't even play video games
???
2 years ago
Anonymous
They watch their favorite streamer play the games that "appeal" to them, zoomers don't even own consoles
2 years ago
Anonymous
i think you have a warped perception of what gaming is today, yes social media ties into it but that doesn't mean they don't play videogames, they do, the only thing social media decides is what they play
You absolute fricking moron. You can go back to it, just stop fricking instigating it and make people feel stupid for doing it and it will eventually stop.
Normalgays bought world because: >OMG le epic new game >it's open world??? (it wasn't) >woah its a sick new game from japan its just like dark souls >woah guys did you hear about this epic obscure series called MONSTER HUNTER? >man these graphics look good
It was hyped and next in line to be the epic hard game from japan for real gamers. At least thats how I see it. By the time iceborne came out this crowd had already left. There was no real reason to assume Rise would continue this trend especially since it released on a toddler handheld and looks like garbage (which I don't give a shit about but normalgays do).
I will, it just needs to be multiplat. There is a genuine enjoyment and desire for Monster Hunter now, it's becoming more mainstream. Whether OG fans want/like it or not is to their own dismay.
I doubt it, MHW sucess was achieved mostly because the HUGE generational leap compared to MHXX, a lot of people wanted to hunt their favorite monster with HD graphics and refreshed mechanics. The next MH will not have such a huge leap.
Nah, world is my fav MH but it was a perfect storm. The hype and alot of people having never played MH, not a DaS game for a while and they thought "This is it!". Just a perfect storm of marketing and opportunity.
No doubt MH6 will be great but I seriously doubt it will sell as well, hopefully the G-Rank expac will outsell IB, that was a big dropoff.
Well, all I can say on this is that all my friends bought World but only one of them bought Rise because "it looks stupid": they are all waiting for MH6 because they don't wanna burn out from playing too much Monster Hunter.
Considering how hard Rise flopped on PC, this seems to me a common sentiment. As long as they don't frick it up, MH6 will be huge.
yes anon you are a normalgay and so are your friends
2 years ago
Alessio
Ok? This doesn't change the fact everyone in my group is waiting for the next one. And I know because I've been BEGGING them to play Rise together for MONTHS, but they'd rather play something else while they wait for MH6.
As I said this seems to be a common sentiment: World wasn't a lightning in a bottle, people are still interested in Monster Hunter. They just don't care about Rise.
>Normies fell for the normies bait game and don't want to play the game made for actual fans
Wow what a ground breaking discovery, tell me more about how world was made to appeal to the lowest common denominator and how rise filters them by looking shit/nerfing shit/letting you fly and shit
>made for actual fans
rofl, come on now. World was casualized, but Rise is even worse in this regard.
>Considering how hard Rise flopped on PC
I don't know if you know what 'flop' means but capcom absolutely made a huge profit from Rise.
We're at like ~1.5 million copies on PC, ~8.5 on Switch.
Did they make money on the port, considering how barebones it is? Yeah, probably. Can it be considered a success? Meh, not really.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I mean actual fans in the extremely loosely, it's a "hey look it's old monster hunter isn't that what you real fans wanted" but with the casualization from world and le epic anime move
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Rise is even worse in this regard.
that's just not true
2 years ago
Anonymous
>styles >dog item using
Could go on but thats already ridiculous enough, Gen was shit on hard for being casual as frick and everyone hated styles. Rise's combat is literally GU on steroids, its just infinite counters spam while bugs shit buffs on your face.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>its just infinite counters spam while bugs shit buffs on your face.
did you even play the fricking game what the frick
2 years ago
Anonymous
He played it with an infinite wirebugs mod
2 years ago
Alessio
It depends on the stage of the game. During progression, World is harder; but in end-game you became so insanely strong, everything in the game became trivial except for Behemoth, Ancient Leshen, ATs and Kulve.
Rise is easier 99% of the time, but even with BIS gear you can't kill "normal" monsters in a stunlock. Or at least it's way harder to do compared to World.
I can't comment on Sunbreak, I haven't played it yet. Just comparing base World with base Rise.
>Normies fell for the normies bait game and don't want to play the game made for actual fans
Wow what a ground breaking discovery, tell me more about how world was made to appeal to the lowest common denominator and how rise filters them by looking shit/nerfing shit/letting you fly and shit
>Considering how hard Rise flopped on PC
I don't know if you know what 'flop' means but capcom absolutely made a huge profit from Rise.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Got money from Nintendo to make it a console exclusive >Got money from the 7 million tendies that bought rise day 1 >Got money from the morons that bought it twice because they had fomo >Got money from real fans that waited for them to release a playable version on PC
Capcom keeps Winning
I only ever tried to play a monster hunter on the PSP years ago before World, but always liked the idea of the series. World for me was simply a case of a MH being graphically impressive for the series on the platform I use, PC. I'll be playing the next mainline one as well for the same reasons.
better game than world by far, it didn't sell as much because it isn't for normalgays like world was, world was also the first monster hunter game to succesfully appeal to normalgays basically this
and now the hype is gone, it isn't new and no new monster hunter title on pc will ever sell as well
I don't understand why anyone would buy this on steam. The game was made for the bing bing tablet, it's still going to look like shit on your PC. Why not play the portable title on your portable console?
graphics are not important and rise has better better art direction and gameplay than world, simple as
I'm sorry if it makes me a casual but I very simply didn't and won't buy Rise because it, visually, looks so much worse than World while the gameplay looks so similar. The UI is nightmarishly ugly, the world has no
Why do they want me to pay money for the same game I already played, but worse? The world has no flair, no style. Doesn't have the beautiful varied locations of World, the traditional japanese look just doesn't do it for me, and the monsters didn't impress me with the notable exception of Malzeno.
When I heard my favorite weapon got kinda shafted in Rise I felt vindicated, but in truth even if people said it was improved from IB I still wouldn't have bought Rise because I don't want to buy an ugly cheaper version of MHW that probably still plays like MHW except with monster riding which I think is awful.
You might as well wait for mh10 because there isn’t gonna be anything mind boggling the honeymoon phase wears off for every single thing if you don’t like it that’s fine >same game but worse?
Oh so it’s fine for other entry games though right they get a pat?come on now just play any other game and it will have the same issue or worse just don’t buy it
this
I loved World and just want more of the same (but no fricking clutch claw and RNG decos)
Rise wasn't for me at all, tried the demo and hated it, visuals especially - looks like an upscaled PS2 game
Monster Hunter players are either literal children or 35+ year old hyper autistic shut ins. I genuinely fricking hate them, it's nigh impossible to have fun outside of solo because every c**t you meet has a negative impact on the game.
I fricking hates Hammer in Rise.
It slowlly turning into Dual Blade, stop giving it so many close gap option.
Its a fricking slow weapon, not a fricking DMC weapon.
Every single weapon is devolving into being fast-paced with a built in counter or super armor because they're making every monster aggro pieces of shits with gay fricking movesets.
I'm hoping that since Rise and World were created at the same time they're going in different directions but World did show signs of being more action focused. Seems like anything tactical is being removed in favor of execution/reaction based combat
World and Rise is still got a complete opposite of movement for each weapons.
Rise is literally you need to go fast, while World still all about waiting and reading moster movement, meanwhile Rise is all about jumping around close gapping.
Sure they add a close gap like clutch claw in IB, but it only work if you use it on the monster and you don't want to use it when it moves all the time.
A Hammer tier 1 side attack in Rise got a freaking close gap, a freaking side blow.
You see how they want to turned MH into some fast pace action game in Rise just by changing this attack.
>World still all about waiting and reading moster movement, >puts rocksteady mantle on >whale on monster with health augment weapon >never die and constantly heal >clutch claw to the face and wall the monster >repeat for 10 minutes
you homosexuals are hilarious
>while World still all about waiting and reading moster movement
That hasnt been true for any MH after 3G.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>World still all about waiting and reading moster movement, >puts rocksteady mantle on >whale on monster with health augment weapon >never die and constantly heal >clutch claw to the face and wall the monster >repeat for 10 minutes
you homosexuals are hilarious
Black person, do you serously thinks Rise is not more faster than World?
People can stop praising rise for being the most action oriented MH and must fun bing shit because its fast.
go ahead, wear those RSM in MR and see how the monster OHKO you because you are too lazy to dodge.
It's just a really bad expansion. I don't think there's an argument that Sunbreak isn't the worst G-Rank ever.
The pacing is absolute garbage tier. It doesn't iterate on Rise in any meaningful way, the big gameplay change - Skill Swapping - is completely pointless for the vast majority of the weapon roster. Worst of all, Sunbreak is so barren from content it makes the base game, which was ALSO barren as frick, look big.
I beat Gachigasm and haven't picked it up since. Sunbreak just cemented that Rise is a Monster Hunter to forget outside of a few noteworthy fights like Garangolm and Goss.
Because there's no end game and hardly any new monsters. I had no problem grinding to HR100 for Valstrax but I'm not doing it again for Valstrax now with 20x more health. Have a meta CB set after only 15 hours. Should have brought back the Guiding Lands for low stakes, mindless hunting.
World keep loosing players after launch, the peak was 320k at launch, and with Iceborne it peaked at 280k.
Rise on the other hand had a peak of 140k at launch, and with Sunbreak release, it reached a new peak of 230k. Perhaps the steam sales player a big one here, but still, Rise gained players compared to World.
This post was made by brainlet hands, holy shit lmao. World is still more successful you moron - it retained more players than the people that ever bothered to even touch rise
2 million is still really good numbers but MHW was really strong. I think a lot of people fomo'd into MHW and just didn't like it. Rise was a pretty big disappointment for me especially because of the MP shit just ruined it. I feel like I had no control over where I was going or what I was doing so I just solo'd the entire game. I'd buy Sunbreak if they changed the MP to let us see the various hunts.
> I think a lot of people fomo'd into MHW and just didn't like it.
Lots of dark souls homosexuals and normalgays. >the MP shit just ruined it.
Do you mean Rampages?
No, rampages were fricking terrible but I'm talking about having a list of what hunts are available. In MHW, you just picked a rank and saw 3 dozen hunts going on at any given time. It showed you how long the hunts had gone on for, if someone dropped out, etc. In Rise, from what I saw (I used the MP option maybe 5 or 6 times), you click on a monster you want to hunt and then it connects you automatically. So 3 times I had walked into a hunt that was over 20 minutes. I don't mind helping people out but sometimes I want to start the hunt at the beginning.
Only on Ganker would some moron think 10 million copies of a game is 'low'
I'm sure Capcom is crying into their piles of money and burning thousand yen bills in honor of Abe tonight
Anon, unless you somehow think DB is going to sell more than base Rise did it's pretty obvious SB is going to cap at around 4M at most. MHW had what, 18M sold and IB was 9M? MHR was roughly 8M and DB is 2M which is their 10M total. It's an almost 50% loss in player retention between MHW and MHR. If the next MH isn't MHW 2: electric boogaloo I'd wager that'll have less players and MHW was just lightning in a bottle
2 years ago
Anonymous
World was streamer and normie bait. Once half of them realized they couldn't actually beat any of the monsters they all left.
They are not coming back.
Anyone who believes otherwise is severely coping.
2 years ago
Anonymous
anon neither iceborne nor base world had a simultaneous launch on console on PC. but even disregarding the double dips (that rise also had but sunbreak launched the same time on PC and switch) it took around 5~6 months for it to get to 4 million units (and that include one holyday season). actually the activity for the game was higher on the holiday season right before iceborne than on iceborne itself
well I thought world was much more grindy but rise is much faster. I think what will make or break will be the weapons. I can only speak for GS. on both world and rise TCS is king but you can go for alternative playstyles. in world you can use crit draw for the old snipe GS and in iceborne (not base world) you can go for the frostcraft, a skill that will buff your next attack after a period your weapon is sheathed, to help emulate better the old snipe GS. for rise crit draw was nerfed from 100% to now 60% but you can try the new rage slash, an attack that replaces the TCS giving you super armor and more damage if you take damage while charging, and in sunbreak (not base rise) the surge slash combo, that replaces the normal combo for the GS with faster attacks. give them a look on yt, but from what you said I think you'll like world better
If you can convince yourself that the product you don't have access to is bad, you won't feel bad for not being able to playit. And if you can get others to agree, that'll validate your opinion and you'll feel even better about having made "the right choice™" when purchasing products. There's genuine criticisms of the games, but 90% of the posts are sour grapes console homosexualry.
Why did rise mindbreak monster hunter world fans? The only people you ever see comparing the 2 on the steam discussions are the ones that proudly display their thousands of hours on world and their 5 hours on rise
Just killed Narwa, gonna grind to HR100 before starting Sunbreak because I wanna see what happens. What's the consensus on shelling types? I like to full burst with wyvernstakes on counters and big openings but I also use wyvernfire and hail cutter with blast dashes here and there. Can't really pick between normal and long
Every time I see this I'm reminded that the only people that care about console wars are Playstation users and they have to make it about literally everything
>investigations >the perfect endgame grind
Are you delusional? I don't know anyone sane who did investigations over just running quests/events for late game iceborne after getting the bare minimum that they needed from them.
the base game gimmick is shit and they doubled down on it
monsters are also itchynose tier shit, no wonder real MH fans despise rise and nintendo tr00ns gobbling it
Honestly if they ignored rampage shit and doubled the monster counter I would welcome it as GU2, but yeah it was pretty shitt especially after Wolrd. No doubt capcom lost alot of faith with customers by releasing that shit on steam.
the base game gimmick is shit and they doubled down on it
monsters are also itchynose tier shit, no wonder real MH fans despise rise and nintendo tr00ns gobbling it
>muh roster
what difference does it make when whole game itself is shit
by your own logic you could call smash a mh game because it has rathalos or something stupid like that
i sighed up for monster hunter, but what i got is monster counter or monster beater, you might like it but i don't, and lots og fans feel that way too
half of you bad faith arguing brand loyalists never even played the game it seems, why not just try it on pc, it runs on a fricking toaster for christ sake
Defender gear is an overpowered armor and weapon set specifically designed to rush through the base game and reach the expansion ASAP. If you're a new player, don't use it.
Defender gear is an overpowered armor and weapon set specifically designed to rush through the base game and reach the expansion ASAP. If you're a new player, don't use it.
cutting corners to meet the deadline for MH6
where is this ''leak'' from?
have you been living under the rock?
I haven't been much on Ganker lately.
It's from two years ago
https://www.ign.com/articles/capcom-leak-dragons-dogma-2-street-fighter-6
A 2021 leak with documents and even videos (RE8 scenes included)
Exactly, the graphics are weaker and the gameplay is borked
Where the frick is Ace Attorney 7 capcom
This isn't funny anymore stop playing with my heart
>pragmata nowhere to be found
Grasping at fricking straws there
get better grades kid, maybe mom will buy you an adult gaming PC
What's MH NS G?
use head,
sunbreak
Monster Hunter Nintendo Switch G Version.
In Japan, their updated game version was the G version, and the final tier was called G-Rank. The western release called it Ultimate, instead of G. World changed that to Master Rank, and an actual Expansion.
So a new MH comes out next year? Is it gonna be on Switch again or consoles so it looks prettier again?
Sunbreak support should last till mid 2023, by that date, we should see a little teaser for the Next MH.
It's important to note that in 2024, the franchise will be 20 years old, so I would expect the next MH to drop in 2024 to celebrate that.
>Power Stone Remake
>Final Fightasy Remake
Were it so easy...
>Rockman Taisen
U FOKKEN WOT
damn homie you late as hell
>DD2 Q2 this year
r-really?
Everything got pushed back due to COVID so Q3/Q4 at the earliest.
2023 I mean
probably got pushed because of MH6.
MH is the best selling franchise right now, I bet they're busting their balls to get next game out in 2023
Switch. That is all.
I don't understand why anyone would buy this on steam. The game was made for the bing bing tablet, it's still going to look like shit on your PC. Why not play the portable title on your portable console?
30 fps are you a moronic poorgay
>Why not play the portable title on your portable console?
Or just play World and Iceborne and wait for MH6 like a real MH fan.
monster hunter tri is the only good game in the series, and it got a really good upgrade with the 3DS version.
prove me wrong
3U > FU > Everything else > massive power gap > Rise
3U is the most distilled version of MH we have to date - no moronic fricking gimmicks or items or mechanics and has the best monster in the game, pic related
Is he really that good, I stopped after beating Lucent since it's a bit of a drag for me to solo G-Rank
Depends on how much you enjoy underwater combat. I can assure you that he's fricking terrifying when you fight him because it takes a small mistake for him to frick your shit up.
Not a gimmick and should be fricking brought back. Not sticking with it was a massive fricking mistake and I will forever be upset they scrapped it when it was a natural progression of the game that opens up so many different monsters
>should be fricking brought back
Kek I can't wait for everyone to see how fricking dogshit that was so tribabs can finally shut the frick up about it.
Cope, I was playing 3U a few years back and it was perfectly servicable. If they never scrapped it it would've been perfect by now
>If they never scrapped it it would've been perfect by now
HOLY KEK IT'S ALREADY STARTING TO COPE LMAO
You anti-Rise gays seem completely unhinged.
>no moronic fricking gimmicks
what is swimming
>Walks away from FU and World
>Turns around to play the rest
based
I play it on my Steam Deck at 60fps
Because it's far more fun to play than the actual mainline title, World.
soulless vs soul
mh5 isnt even maxed out here
>muh gwafix
>those legs
Never in my life have I been so tempted to download coomer mods
Left also deliberately disabled the shitty volumetric fog.
>disabled the shitty volumetric fog.
I don't understand why so many games are adding this
"Yes please wash out all the colors beyond 10 meters this is part of the aesthetic"
Less pressure on consoles.
Makes shitty downgraded graphics look kinda better.
who wouldnt
>port from an underpowered handheld
gee, I wonder
it's not a graphics issue, game is inferior to the every single previous game including 3DS ones.
this, the ps2, psp and eve 3ds games all look better than rise, because they worked within their limitations. rise is just world downscaled and the aesthetic doesnt work when you cut corners, world looked nice even if it was a bit "dense" in detail, but it was clearly trying to look like the FMV's since MH1. rise on the other hand just looks empty, with flat lighting and plastic textures. had rise stayed with the old engines style pre-world or even done something like use stories art style, i think it would have looked much better
I've grown to hate Rise locales even more with sunbreak.
The fricking last area that is absolutely giant and not only traversing it is a fricking pain in the dick it also filled with nothing but bingbirds.
What a disgusting piece of shit game goddamn
its not a graphic issues tho, the gameplay got changed so hard in rise/sunbreak that it plays more like DMC than MH
It's bing bing shit
Still seething I see
I just want Valstrax and Nergigante to be in the same game so we can have a turf war and settle this debate. Nerg would probably win but idc, it would be a sick fight.
>sony, Nintendo cross breeding
>people are still reposting the art I commissioned
This looks fun as frick
that webm itself is shit, because it's 2 Mounted monsters. neither is dealing damage to the other.
the actual in-game mechanic is okay, but it breaks the flow of the hunt so fricking bad. It also completely deleted the idea of weapons being good at mounting, like IG, because the hunt target has a stupid high mount threshold, while the extra monsters on the map become mountable with a single attack
go get laid lmfao
you need vitamin D loser,all of the shit you brought up is so esoteric only a fricking poodle like yourself would complain about it
>We want the Dark Souls audience
it actually filters soulsbabs and souls speedrunners
I saw this literal same comment about World
World was 2 steps forward 1 step back. Rise is just straight up 1 step back. Whoever was in charge of it lost sight of why people liked MH.
Combat has devolved into spamming counters against the new moronic moveset they've given to monsters (who are now hyper spastic) while shitting out a billion damage and like half the weapons revolve around spamming a silkbind move.
They fricked up balance so bad that they didn't even increase the power level of charms because they were already busted and should never have been mixed with the level system for skills
>who are now hyper spastic
I honestly don't know what game people are playing when they say shit like this. Rajang is slow as frick compared to World. Brachydios isn't in the game, but he's been a major fricking spaz since 4U. Shogun has never been more of a freak than when he was Hyperized. Same goes for a lot of monsters, actually.
Malzeno is a great fight, and so are the other two Lords, even though they're pretty easy overall. Valstrax is annoying, but he's mostly got the same rhythm he's always had since GU.
What's this weird narrative being pushed that Rise monsters are SUPER SPASTIC AND HYPER LOL?
Do you people really have nothing better going on in your lives?
wasnt iceborne mixed on steam for like ever
yeah and for the same reasons too, both were broken as frick on launch and even deleted save files, it's like they learned nothing
didnt capcom say PC was their main platform now?
>Why couldnt they pull another Iceborne?
they did
>14k
Wow so Sunbreak sold only a tenth of Iceborne
iceborne has had multiple deep discounts since release. give it time, it'll reach half those numbers eventually
>mixed reviews
it got reviewbombed because of the movie btw.
Also the initial launch when WHOPS WE UNDID ALL OF OUR FIXES.
Truly terrible launch
it was a bunch of 3rd worlders who could barely make World run but they went really heavy on the graphics update for Iceborne. My 1070 was peaking in a few places.
this cope again?
how is it cope? they updated the base game which fricked up all the mods so the ESL and 3rd world morons went apeshit along with the people who couldn't get the expansion to work. It's literally what we're seeing happen with Rise. Most of those reviews have nothing to do with the content.
how were they not runnig world/iceborne? I first played it on a gtx 660
just google it. idk why you're playing coy, you obviously didn't play this at launch given how many problems there were. I didn't even buy the expansion until 2 months after it came out due to the problems.
https://www.shacknews.com/article/115816/capcom-apologizes-for-mhw-iceborne-pc-launch-issues-promises-fixes-asap
>you obviously didn't play this at launch given how many problems there were
I did. I'm pretty sure iceborne was crashing some times when it launched but I still was able to play it on a gtx 660
Because he's a lying piece of shit or a newbie who started playing last week. The game got tons of mixed reviews because of performance issues, not mods or muh shitty hardware. Even top end PCs were shitting the framerate because they implemented an anti cheat/piracy which checks every second for file integrity.
MASSIVE cope.
Absolutely fricking TITANIC.
>lazy mobile game ported to the pc and lathered eith Denuvo
>$60 + DLCs
Gee its a complete mystery!
thanks for the money sucker
I had a lot of fun with vanilla Rise on the Switch, but I can't bring myself to play through it again just to play Sunbreak on PC, yet I don't want to buy it for the Switch when it's available on my preferred platform.
Basically, the timed exclusivity and the lack of save transfer has kept me from buying Sunbreak.
Capcom wanted you to double dip but they should have had put some effort in it allowing save transfers. Though I think nintendo would block this anyway.
It was the same with Iceborne for me, too.
I wonder how much money Capcom gets to suck wiener.
It's not exactly the same thing, but you can mod a 9999 attack weapon into the game, beat the entire game in an hour, then mod the same charms you had on Switch. Ghetto save transfer.
Mhmm... mismarketing. As another anon said this is basically a portable game ported to a different platform just to grab at the PC market hoping it would catch on like "MH:Didny Worl". But ultimately this is a very obviously a portable game while the previous title was very obviously released on an actual (shitty) computer that a PC can capitalize on.
With Rise you get... more fps I guess? But it was inevitable. Rise sales have functionally mirrored World sales on PC. Everyone who played World has played Rise. Probably a few extra thrown ontop because of sales/etc + hype for Sunbreak regardless if they even make it that far or not. And they will play the next game also regardless of how moronic a port it is.
And it will still have fricking Denuvo.
>Rise sales have functionally mirrored World sales on PC
not even close but that's clearly what they hoped for, sadly the exclusivity, the terrible graphics and gameplay made tons of people mad, rise probably erased all the faith people had on this franchise actually evolving instead of just remaking GU 2.0
>not even close
I was talking about PC only sales but after looking closer I was completely fricking up the stats. Rise has actually sold less total and Iceborne alone.
I can't find the numbers for up-to-date PC-only sales so if Steam reviews are a rough estimate then Rise has sold like 1.5 mil PC copies to Worlds over 10 mil.
Falsely advertising it as "Massive", new version of Denuvo being so fricked up that don't recognize the game you bought and breaking Reframe and the gameplay changes, seriously switch skill make arts and mantles look inoffensive in comparison just search for any GS damage sunbreak
For me its the unironic comments that go like
>I started with G/GU and I can say this game feels way more like classic monhun to me than World
that makes me wish for our civilization to become dust
as a GU veteran and part of the old guard, i am deeply offended by your comment
Only posers who pretend to have played any of the older titles say shit like that. GU is mention commonly like that since it's on the switch as the other monster hunter game (that isn't a turn-based rpg).
Last I checked, it was performance related, and a bunch of people being told by the game that they didn't have the right to play it or even having their save deleted.
Thankfully, Works On My Machine™.
performance related? its a switch game how back could it be?
There's more to performance than just framerate affected by graphic fidelity. Some people are reporting crashes, online connection issues and stuttering.
denuvo
Classic.
Why is HR Apex Rathalos harder than MR monsters
because Rathalos is a shit monster, so the only way to make it a somehwat interesting fight is to make him capable of just 2-shotting you
There's no content
More quests than Iceborne already and there haven’t even been any updates
Quest count should really not be your barometer for a good game. There are plenty of terrible quests in every monster Hunter game that we just ignore and you know this.
Ok. Monster diversity is a step up from World as well. That one was mostly flying wyvern, brute wyvern, and Kushala skeleton Elder spam. Rise actually has variety.
Why are you using the number of quests to judge the DLC’s quality? That doesn’t make sense
Also, Iceborne technically had infinite quests because of the investigations, which were a great game mechanic and I’m mad they dropped it in Rise
I dont really care about monhun at all and all I remember about iceborne is that you jumped off ledges a lot and the weapons were not as fun as rise
the weapons in rise are flat out dogshit compared to world
idk I used switch axe and hammer and they were better. movement was leagues better too now that I think about it.
movement is better but it crosses the edge for me where weapons feel non commital which is made worse by how many emergency escapes you get in Rise
If you’re talking about the designs, you’re fricking moronic. Look how they massacred the Brachydios switch axe. Then look at how faithfully they recreated Valstrax’s gear in Rise.
So why is Ganker still seething about Rise?
its not good, and I wish that it were
Sounds like a you problem.
Because MH was supposed to be Sony only after World (never mind that World was on Xbox and PC)
Console war homosexualry. Same thing happened during World's period as the new game, although it wasn't quite as bad as it is now. Fully expect the same shit to happen again in reverse when MH6 comes out.
Unironically just angry mindbroken snoys. Just wait, trendies won’t seethe nearly this hard once MH6 isn’t on switch or whatever Nintendo has by then. And there will be just as much seething from the snoyboys when the next portable title is again Nintendo ad PC only.
>trendies won’t seethe nearly this hard once MH6 isn’t on switch
The seethe from tendies when World was announced was astronomical, what makes you say this?
>Actually, it won't sell like crazy
Switch
It severely limits the scope of the game. The hunts have to be shorter, the game easier and the smaller scale.
There's just no reason to play it over World, if people look at the steam store and see Rise beside World, they'll assume Rise is a generation out of date.
but how does it look worse than Tri which was on worse hardware
It doesn’t.
>no reason to play it over world
Crabs b***h
>Switch
>It severely limits the scope of the game.
This is your brain on console war homosexualry.
Generations Ultimate was on Switch and that game has some harder fights than anything in World.
Man, I know I'm in the minority for saying this, but if MH had continued with the Hunting Styles and Hunting Arts, I 100% would've been fine with it. It felt right, being able to change /how/ you used your weapon, and the Arts really just needed rebalancing. Adept and Valor needed real tradeoffs, but the rest felt great.
Aerial IG was the perfect sweet spot between the air combat meme we have now, and the mount spam we had in 4/4U
I completely agree; I would have fricking loved if Hunting Styles were refined and rebalanced instead of scrapped.
Adept blocking was satisfying as frick and even things that sounded awful on paper like Aerial GS turned out to be really fun.
God, Aerial GS was some absolutely cursed fun. It and Aerial Hammer was what carried me through my first completed Deviant line, Snowbaron Lagombi. Just bonking that fricking rabbit over and over and over.
frick it, once i farm a set in Sunbreak, I'm playing GU again. What Weapon+Style should I run this time?
I mained aerial GS - it was just so satisfying even if half the time I ate shit from half a pixel of a claw touching me mid-air, especially against a tigrex that roared you out of the sky
Frontier was on Vita and it has the most difficult fights in the series
Frontier was on PC first.
Iceborne is far worse
>worldsperms pretending icebornes launch wasnt a fricking travesty
>worldsperms
I don't get this, every MH has brought in a shit ton of new players, why is world being criticized for it? And why is it just MH threads that use the term "-sperm" its so weird.
none of the portable or any bing title for that matter brought in the amount of cancer world did
I dunno man, to me it seems like the b***hing about imagined newbies is a lot more cancerous than newbies themselves.
>imagined newbies
It's not imagined. The newbies outnumber the oldguard and judging by how World and Rise played out we're quickly devolving into an action based game like we always memed about with frontier or God Eater. The newbies just eat up anything the devs get until many, many months later they take a step back and go "Okay, maybe this wasn't as good as I thought" but immediately pre-order the next game.
The sad truth is there's brainrot in the video game community - once an IP hits a critical mass of players there'll always have a large subset of them just buy the game regardless of quality. Just look to WoW for an example of how bad it can get
You are quite literally imagining something that likely doesn't exist, and even if it did it wouldn't have a noticeable influence on game mechanic trajectory. Thinking that the devs at Capcom sit down and say "Oh yeah, I'd like to insert (x) mechanic to spite the oldgays" is peak fricking delusion.
>"Oh yeah, I'd like to insert (x) mechanic to spite the oldgays"
Bad faith: the post. The devs don't do that, they go "Lets push the game in a new direction. Oh, look at all the people who like this new direction! Lets continue down this path."
There are devs who have done what you mentioned in bad faith though: see Saints Row devs except it's not just a mechanic but bigger
Because before World MH wasn't nearly as much popular outside of Japan, and many newcomers won't even try with older games because they automatically assume World is the best thing ever
you have to understand, nintendies will NEVER, EVER recover from world, for them is like their wife got fricked by another man, in public, while 28 million people cheered, they got humiliated by
>the graphics
>the gameplay
>the roster
>the sales
>the player retention
>the content
>the directors saying that was always their vision of the game
but most importantly of all
>the fact that their fisher price tablet couldn't run the game without exploding
world still FOREVER live rent free in their minds and they will live in fear of MH 6 being another big success, further sunking them into depression. Truly heartbreaking.
>>the directors saying that was always their vision of the game
Dear god that is horrifying. DD2 can't come soon enough.
Why do you think Nintendo fans didn’t just play world on PC? Most of them did and they enjoyed it. We just prefer rise because it’s literally better in terms of gameplay and monster diversity.
PC destroys their narrative, plus most snoys are too poor and/or brand-loyal to own more than 1 platform
Why do you moron tendies try to lump us in with you? Nintendo consoles are by far the most emulated, so there's no reason to own a swich unless you're a third world poorhomosexual. And every sony game is coming out on PC anyways, kel. sucks to be a poorgay
>Nintendo consoles are by far the most emulated
because there's something to emulate
It "literally" is not, the hell are you talking about? It will always be an unfair comparison because World had title updates Rise didn't and now same with Iceborn/sunbreak. I don't know what world you're from where a smaller number is "literally" bigger than a larger one
And I like sunbreak more than Iceborn because the addition of styles is much better than the addition of clutch claw, but that doesn't mean there's not presently more to do in iceborn you know?
Sunbreak will be a bigger game by the end of its lifespan than Iceborne was at the end of its lifespan.
Tell me what stocks to buy since you seem to be from the future.
>Sunbreak will be a bigger game by the end of its lifespan than Iceborne was at the end of its lifespan.
lol. what a moron. they couldnt fit that much shit on a shitty switch cartridge
how moronic are you?
>b-but Poopbreak will be good in the year of 2024
>because World had title updates Rise didn't
Factually untrue.
>World had title updates Rise didn't and now same with Iceborn/sunbreak
>Rise's launch roster was already larger than World's, and had more skeletons besides
>World had 5 TUs before Iceborne that added 5 monsters
>Rise had 2 TUs before Sunbreak that added 9 monsters (6 if you don't count Apexes)
>Iceborne had 5 TUs that added 7 monsters
>Sunbreak is planned to have at least 3 TUs that will add (probably) 8+ monsters
what planet are you living on, my dude
Why are you equating Tendies with idorts? The average idorts may own a PC and a Switch, but the average Tendies only own a Switch. Tendies are literally the biggest shitposters of emulation and Steam Deck threads.
t. A PCgay who owns a 3DS and a Switch just for playing MonHun games
You're a fricking idiot.
Like holy shit you can not be this fricking dumb.
I fricking hate moronic Tendies who shamelessly keep trying to push this PC x Nintendo Alliance meme and riding on PChads' coattails. I don't give a frick about your Mario, Zelda, and other toddlershit. I'm glad that Rise & Sunbreak are on PC because I don't have to put up with 480p 25fps experience.
>Why do you think Nintendo fans didn’t just play world on PC?
I did
World is garbage and rise is better, nothing more to be said, keep staying in denial homosexual.
Because it was the most recent one. Now that Rise is out, notice how many people suddenly like World. By the time we get to MH7, Ganker will be claiming that they were "old-school" MH players because they started with World.
Nah man, people who started with XX were already claiming to be series vets b***hing about the World TRAILER, let alone the release
Apologize.
?t=48
Iceborne diapers really think this is better than Rise.
I bought rise and it was weird, didn't feel like a real game after elden ring.
If you morons dupe me into buying world and that doesn't feel like a real game either then I'll be sad
What didn't you like about it? What, if anything, did you enjoy? Why did you like about Elden Ring?
Elden ring has real hit boxes and creatures that respond to taking damage. Rise feels like a game from 2000 or something, no feedback clunky hitboxes
There's multiple examples of ER having moronic misleading hitboxes and enemies just armoring through hits because they feel like it.
Then I'm not explaining it correctly but it feels really cheaply made compared to elden ring. I've only played 100 minutes, maybe I can refund it.
World does have much higher production value if that's what you're looking for.
genuine complain about world, why do the weapons look like shit and lack unique models for monster lines? That shits baffling to me cus the armor looks really awesome and detailed.
Yeah, World is far from perfect, and whilst I generally enjoy it, the state of the weapon designs in the game was absolutely shameful.
1 year of Zorah Magdaros. ONE WHOLE YEAR of dev going to making that shitshow work. So yeah, that's probably the culprit for bone weapons. Not enough dev time left.
I was annoyed by this too
On the bright side, you can eventually unlock layered weapons to change their models
I think world is better in that regard, although most monsters will shrug off most attacks that aren't standard. Only thing that might throw you for a loop is the reduced movement, you can't wirebug up cliffs to skip sections.
>he fell for the /vg/tranis marketing campaign
kek
Rise sucked, but sunbreak is surprisingly good. If you ever played the Armored Core games it's like 4/V -> 4A and VD. The little improvements they make take it a long way.
Base rise is awful though and anyone saying otherwise is insane
>MH "fans" b***hing about how "Dumbed down" and "Easy" world is.
>Rise comes out. Even easier, even more dumbed down and even more casual.
>Crickets.wav
I don't save shitpost images but theres one that lists all the bullshit complaints about World's QoL improvements suddenly flipping around when Rise was announced. I remember watching the reveal trailer and there was so much crossfire. Hypegays couldn't figure out if they wanted to praise Rise because of the improvements it brought form world or to hate it because they had to double down that the World shit was bad. It seems like things evened out at "Rise is just... its just better okay!" But I'm not gonna forget how much people fell over themselves trying to justify their moronic opinions.
The people that can't let go and still insist rise is "classic" somehow are sad.
>can replay freedom unite just fine
>can replay tri just fine
>can replay 3U just fine
>can replay 4U just fine
>can replay world just fine
>cant stand rise's DMC gameplay for more than 5 minutes
literally me, also frick GU / XX and frick Ichinose
started with 3u. 4u is the best game in the series by a fairly large margin, but rise has the most fun factor due to all the wacky shit you can do.
world has all of the slow tedium of the old games with none of the quality pacing 4u has or the fun shit gen u or rise has.
GU was the most fun
I don't like MH being wacky, simple as.
I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology. There's multiple interviews with devs from even before World, but especially about World itself, about how immersion and believably for monsters is a high priority for the series. You had 4U babies claim the series was always just an anime grindan game so they were mad that World was toning shit down due to some mysterious "western influence." But nope, this is always the game the core team wanted to make and you can see the mind breaking in action in this very thread.
>I don't like MH being wacky, simple as.
>when pic related has existed since 2004
This series has been wacky from the very first day with the monster designs, game mechanics, and player animations. It's not that you don't enjoy how silly Monster Hunter has been, but disgruntled at how flashy and over the top things are currently. Which is fine and nobody would argue otherwise, but you honestly can't sit there and say the series has been playing itself straight for X amount of years because it never really did.
>I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology
what about the damage numbers, the fact that you could for the first time see the monster's health on something that wasn't their actions, restock mid hunts, combine with 100% of accuracy and not having to manage the inventory at all?
>I think my favorite case of delusion is the idea that World was being "westernized" because it was focusing on monster ecology. There's multiple interviews with devs from even before World, but especially about World itself, about how immersion and believably for monsters is a high priority for the series. You had 4U babies claim the series was always just an anime grindan game so they were mad that World was toning shit down due to some mysterious "western influence." But nope, this is always the game the core team wanted to make and you can see the mind breaking in action in this very thread.
this is exactly what i've been saying for a while. you got all these tendies that started with 4U and think the series has always been super flashy and filled with super bright oversaturated colors. world is literally a return to some feeling of being grounded, same as the PS2 games and to an extent the psp games. but tendies think its "western pandering" because it doesnt look like anime vomit
the second someone says 'tendies' about a game that most people on Ganker probably play on PC I know any and all of his seething comes from being a No Gaems Snoy
oh look right on time
you got btfo hard didn't you?
no not really, it just proved i was right. say one thing bad about the 3ds titles and the nintendo defense force comes out of the woodwork
>MH was only on the 3DS
Youre one stupid homosexual.
i never said that
Most people started on FU on the PSP anon
>say something moronic
>people naturally point out you are moronic
>it's because "m-muh nintendo..."
moron.
what did i say that was moronic ? all i pointed out was that people that started with 4U and the 3ds games tend to be ignorant about the original direction of the series
>what did i say that was moronic ?
see
>world is literally a return to some feeling of being grounded
is literally a return to some feeling of being grounded
is that wrong though ? its much more toned down compared to 4U, both in monster designs and art direction. not to mention all the people at the reveal complaining that it wasnt colorful enough, or that it was too "realistic"
>is that wrong though ?
Yes, you are completely wrong which is why people are calling you moronic.
you still wont explain how its wrong
see
Triggered stylecucks think it's moronic, and no shit they do, they are exactly the morons that deserve to not be catered to because every style game is garbage.
Now us FU/Tri chads, we think World is based.
>Now us FU/Tri chads
You played neither.
Bwahahahahahhahahaha!!! started with Dos you pathetic little man!
wrong - I'd get my wii u out and post a picture just to prove it too but I'm like 99% sure I wiped the SD card that I hacked it with. Oh god my save file, stupid fricking mistakes
>FU and tri
based anon, those two have the best art direction pre-world, although i think p3rd deserves a mention too
>its much more toned down compared to 4U
anon it having realistic graphics is not being grounded
explain why it grounded then?
the monsters, or at least the ones new to world, went back to being based of dinosaurs and other prehistoric life, nudging away from the goofier and outlandish designs like zamtrios. armor designs went back to the gen 1 and 2 versions, which are also much more toned down compared to their 4th gen versions. the color pallet is much more natural and not as saturated. the more realistic graphics help but MH since the PS2 was always going for a more realistic look. not photorealistic, but realistic none the less
>went back to being based of dinosaurs and other prehistoric life
I'd say it's debatable since not every monster was anjanath. great jagras is literally an iguana with a gimmick that is basically copied from zamitrios you just mentioned. besides most of the newcomers from world are shitmons and nobody likes them
That's not 'going back to its roots', that's importing shit because it's the base essentials. World did its job in giving Capcom a starting point to recycle assets for another 5-10 years before they have to go through this song and dance again.
>post stupid shit and get corrected
>must be tendies
>get dunked on by three people so hard he can't do anything but say "Wow I got shit on"
I play my Switch games on PC.
You play nothing, because Playstation has no games.
i dont even own a playstation, i just emulate everything. you got tendies out here calling me a "snoy" out of reflex lmao
>I...I..am..a..a...PC chad that..j.just happens to use Snoy phrases...h..haha
no one believes you
post specs
>tendies that started with 4U
Tendies started with tri, you can't even get your consolewarring straight homosexual
>World didnt try to pander to the western market
>bone weapons everywhere
>striving for realism and graphix compared to other MH games
MH was never a one system series, so your tendies argument falls flat.
3U > FU > GU > 4U > World > Rise.
4U gets a massive demerit for beginning the trend of bullshit gimmick items/features that you HAVE to participate in in the form of wystones
Based and MHfanpilled
If you started with the 3DS games, you aren't a "MH fan" but a homosexual secondary
The 3DS games mog all the other games hard, especially FU and World
I started with Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. ON WII U
I’m a fake fan secondary even though I have 2500+ hours in the series? Seems fair.
>actually like DMC
>think World plays the closest like it and that Rise is just glitzy spammy trash
Does anyone here actually play DMC?
World plays the closest like it
Well World does let you beat up on ragdolls that can't fight back lol. Jokes aside, people do like to just throw comparisons out there without actually having played anything. Pic kind of related.
I know you're meming but I feel like I gotta throw it out there for lurkers that enemies in DMC do indeed fight back. I've seen this shit posted and taken at face value, it really irks me that people out there really think that's true when its not.
>I've seen this shit posted and taken at face value
It's rather frustrating at times, that's for sure. Just got to roll with the memes I guess.
Funny how despite having a smaller team and budget, Sunbreak is better than Iceborne in almost every way. Instead of introducing a single new mechanic that was forced, intrusive, and that the entire game was balanced around, it introduced a bunch of smaller ones that EXPAND on stuff from the base game. MASSIVE EXPANSION. Also Citidel > Guiding Lands and Malzeno >>> Velkhana.
the style and arts shit have never been good in a single game they featured in
Styles are great, Switch Skills are even better. Arts are worse but there's been far, far worse gimmicks in MonHun.
I cannot think of a worse addition to MH than styles and arts.
Oils were very very terrible and Boy howdy do I hate the clutch claw.
Crutch claw. Swimming for another. Also Rampages.
>I don't know if this is true in Rise,
For some weapons it's true for Rise/Sunbreak. Well maybe not almost all your damage, but a fairly significant portion.
As for crutch claw, a glorified qte for wallbang/tenderizing every 90s is just too invasive. Arts/Silkbinds are annoying because I don't like having meter management when I'm playing a weapon that doesn't traditionally have it, but at the end of the day it's just another move. If mounting mechanics were more involved (like say Dragon's Dogma) clutch claw would probably be more interesting, but there's just not enough to it.
Rampages should have been fun. Monster Hunter tower defense is fine on paper but my god did I hate playing it.
Rampages were fun with friends at first, the issue is they just took fricking forever and were a snorefest if you were solo because the monsters focus you 9 out of 10
>Rampages were fun
Do you also find hitting your own head with a hammer fun?
>Rampages were fun with friends at first
They were never fun.
Terrible to solo (huge issue on PC in some regions), not challenging enough, and too long (if they were challenging length would be an even bigger issue). I just don't think it's worth the dev time to make them good. Just keep the turrent mechanics around for future siege battles. Ideally, there would be no siege battles but since the devs can't resist, maybe they can use rampage mechanics to make them not a complete snorefest.
wirebugs.
it literally removes all punishment from being hit.
>Removes all punishment
>Has zero i-frames
How I know you gays don't actually play the game.
>get hit
>wirebug out
>get hit
>wirebug out
>Get hit
>Lose half your HP
>Wirebug
>Get hit mid wirebug because every monster does a double attack
>Die
Lol moron.
now do it using your head like a normal person
Post your Scorned proofs
If you'd be using your head you'd stop wirefalling and wasting wire bugs that could be used for offensive play.
A player that uses wirefall is a player that gets hit and sucks at hunting monsters.
>Get evade window 4
>Get wirestep
>Literally can't be hit
Explain this?
Again why not go for damage and actually try being a decent player instead of a fricking casual
for the bow I needed two slots for the evade extender and I literally couldn't be hit. default evade distance was gimped af and you just couldn't avoid some things (especially rajang) but put 2 EE on and you're flying across the ground.
>>Get evade window 4
>Rise
Now we all know you didn't even play the game.
I don't get this evade window meme, does an extra 9 frames of invincibility on top of your default 14 actually matter? Evade extender is better because you're gonna roll halfway across the map and have control of literally every every encounter. If you really are that much of a shitter that out need extra iframes download that mod from Nexus that gives you 60 iframes
>I don't get this evade window meme
Cause it's not a meme. Everybody who actually played Rise and got good at it knows that EE is more useful.
Evade window was decent in World and some sets had points by default, so only lying shitposters who never really played Rise would pretend that's what you'd use, assuming that the same skills would carry over. This thread is full of such disingenuous people
wirebugs are objectively stupid, you get instant recovery from a hit to a safe spot.
Except you don't there's no i-frames you can be roar'd or combo'd to death. 9/10 it's better to just not wirebug fall anyway because of the cooldown and how much better switch skills are.
>Bro wirebugs make the game brainless
>Bro use your head
I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than spamming low tier bait in MH threads on cooldown.
I legitimately cannot imagine what led you to this point in your life.
As someone who plays greatsword, it is insane I can reposition any time now by hitting two buttons. Before I had to actually block if I was caught out, now I never have.
Pretty sure GS gets a counter -> TCS which is why it's one of the most broken weapons and it's not the only weapon who got that treatment
True but you need to unlock it. The sheath move moves you a great deal horizontally while giving you an attack buff. It's a great panic button that increases your next combo on top. It's an insane boost available as soon as you start Rise
Not really
It makes it easier to evade and recover from being hit, but monsters can still nail you if you time it wrong
Swimming.
clutch claw is the single most cancerous thing they ever added
No its not, it was actually pretty fun and not nearly as game breaking as fricking DMC infinite counters anime moves bullshit.
The problem was IB nerfing part damage to account for it, making runs artificially take longer if you ignored the mechanic. Still miles better than Styles shit and also worked great with multiplayer, when only 1 of the 4 hunters needed to actually use the clutch claw.
nah it was shallow, boring and repetitive, absolute fricking dogshit
Nah, git gud homosexual
I don't know if this is true in Rise, but in GU almost all your damage in a hunt came from arts, making you have to design your playstyle around it and I fricking hated it. For all the b***hing people do about CC, it doesn't speed up your hunt times THAT much, and at least its more involved than "push button, get damage"
It's true in Rise. Like half or more than half the weapons revolve around your silkbind moves. DB wants to fly up in the air and spam their silkbind, Lance wants to spam dashes, CB wants to do their chainsaw ability for one build, GS wants to get the counters which I'm pretty sure is a silkbind, SA too. In fact I think every single weapon besides the range ones rely on silkbind moves as their core damage
>CB wants to do their chainsaw ability
not even a skilkbind moron
Yeah you're right, it's something they do during it - I don't play CB so I don't know what it is
>DB wants to fly up in the air and spam their silkbind
lmao moron
I don't know about the others, but you're wrong about SA.
The counter is actually ass for anything besides wakeups and roars.
It's pretty much only used for power phials. SA is all about chaincrit and rapid morph.
>TA
cope
>Speedrunshit
>ZSD spam
What the frick did this homosexual mean by this.
You're welcome to show a better build killing monsters faster anon, surely you can backup what you say
You're welcome to try doing this same thing right now without carting.
Speedrunning is not indicative of how the game is normally played you fricking moron.
cope harder Blacks - y'all talk shit and got nothing to show
>oops got hit once better reset
>oops got hit once better reset
>oops got hit once better reset
>oops got hit once better reset
>oops got hit once better reset
Do you realize how moronic you are?
How can you get hit if you just spam counter on your silkbind? Or in the case of DB, getting hit once it a few seconds of loss so unless he's getting hit constantly back to back the time wouldn't be too far off. It'd be one thing if you were talking about the Black person tier final boss armor sets with the blood leeches that drain your health but I purposely avoided them because I anticipated your moronic "argument"
Because that's not how the counter works you dumb fricking shitposter, even in that video he isn't spamming the counter.
He's literally using ZSD soaring combo to negate knockback and shock traps while manipulating the A.I.'s wakeup reaction to loop it's moveset.
Switch axe counter takes up two wirebugs, has 2 second windup, and needs you to input AS the monster attacks for it to work.
I know you're just shitposting but you look like such a dumbass to someone whose actually played the game.
>to someone whose actually played the game.
just because you make a moronic post doesn't mean you actually "play the game", you've proven jack shit
Prove what homosexual he literally uses ZSD soaring in the video, are you trying to claim he doesn't use ZSD soaring or shock traps? holy shit.
Why are you so obsessed with that you mongoloid? That doesn't take away from anything I've said and it's EASIER to do that than timing a counter
>It's true in Rise. Like half or more than half the weapons revolve around your silkbind moves.
>GS wants to get the counters which I'm pretty sure is a silkbind, SA too.
>Posts speedruns, which aren't indicative of how normal gameplay works, but even in speedrun 90% of the speedrun is ZSD soaring spam
>Literally only uses the counter for roars like I said
>Can clearly see counter has both start up and needs an input as an attack comes to work
>Literally rather use switch charger
Like I get you're shitposting but at least put the effort in.
Your post doesn't address fricking anything, why did you even make it?
>BRO SA USES COUNTERS LIKE GS
>No they don't
>YOU AREN'T ADDRESSING ANYTHING REEEEE
homosexual.
Concession accepted.
samegay
Take your estrogen TAtroony.
Oh so you're a legit schiz.
>get called out
>resort to MUH MEDS rhetoric
cope more
>Moeshit spammer
>Probably gay or autistic
>Thinks someone would photoshop a fake screenshot
>shitposting mh of all games
I know I really shouldn't give you anymore (You)s after the speedrun shit, but honestly, do you have no games to play right now? is this really how you get enjoyment in life?
>photoshop
Do you not know what inspect element is? I knew I was talking to a mongoloid but I didn't know it was this bad
Are you talking about HTML?
Actually you just have shit taste
Clutch claw is worse.
I'm fine with styles and arts in spirit but they've went WAY fricking overboard with it in Rise. There is such a thing as too much customization - at least it allows them to experiment. I fricking hope they remove wyvernstake and use the new one they made
>There is such a thing as too much customization
Just look at PoE and tell me otherwise. The bigger issue with all these choices is that it's enabling min/max cancer
>Just look at a completely different game from a different genre and compare
>5 customizable skills, most with only 2 options, is too much.
>ignores the second part of my sentence
kys Black person
It's cute that you think minmaxing is new or worse, and that the culprit is customization and not the influx of newbies and monhun media peddling "top 5 build" shit.
>It's cute that you think minmaxing is new or worse
>or worse
>and that the culprit is customization and not the influx of newbies and monhun media peddling "top 5 build" shit.
So can you form a coherent sentence? You seem to contradict yourself in your own post.
To be clear anon. Customization is not the issue for minmaxing. It's content creators and TA fricktards who think this
is what regular gameplay is like (and attempt to emulate it through muh meta build). Nothing wrong with switch skills though (or hunting styles), all they do is give you different ways to play.
>Nothing wrong with switch skills though (or hunting styles
Objectively wrong, go back to GU homosexual
>being scared of options
kek. Just pick a grug weapon and pretend they don't exist.
>grug weapon
You mean hammer? Because that's the only honest weapon left
switch skills are shit
>longsword is overpowered
>GS skills all suck
>Instead of introducing a single new mechanic that was forced, intrusive, and that the entire game was balanced around,
The meta current revolves around spamming counters with silkbind because the devs made every monster spastic, aggro, and with better tracking and increasing hunter power so much that a fricking GS can kill steve in 13 hits and that number is just going to get lower as builds get more optimized.
They also introduced wyvernriding which is the most obnoxious iteration to mounting they could've ever done.
>hey, what if we let the players play pokemon on monsters?
>Surely this won't get old 10 minutes into the game
>Lets also make make them drop up to 10 monster parts per monster, give free damage, and chain stun the monster so there's even more free damage
Wyvernriding is basically crutchclaw in spirit for how impactful it is
>bitching about wyvern riding
Confirmed for not even playing sunbreak. Way to out yourself gaygo
I just played and people were monster wrangling in my game - what was your point? Oh wait, you're a min/maxing TA troony solo player
>Wyvernriding is basically crutchclaw in spirit for how impactful it is
This isn't even close, worldsperms don't even have any idea why clutch claw was awful.
Wyvern riding happens once every hunt, twice if you try really hard to make it happen. Clutch claw had to be done every minute to return the values to base world.
It literally changes the way you play, it changes the entire flow of the hunt.
You can get 18 monster parts for wyvern riding with the golden bug, I'd say that's pretty impactful and changes the flow of the hunt to always do it, especially when it gives you about 1k free damage and whatever damage you do while it's downed
Red bug is the only one that makes Riding worth it, and, even then, late game builds would get comparable damage just wall slamming 3 times into attacking their openings on the head/weakspots
>Red bug is the only one that makes Riding worth it
Are you a TA troony going for optimal DPS? Then sure, maybe, but for pure parts? You get 6 parts per monster you wrangle if you can do it while buffed by the gold bug
That's not what's being discussed you dipshit, actually use your eyes and read for once. why would I give up 6 free parts per monster? Are you going to tell people just don't use crutch claw and deal with fights that takes 5 times as long?
>WOW THAT MECHANIC IS SO OBNOXIOUS
>I'll still use it tho
kek
Welcome to 4U, GU, World, and now Rise. Enjoy your stay anon
the thing is that this game literally gave an option for people to disable it
Which is moot because there's real gains both in time saved and parts gained in the mechanic. It's like saying you don't have to use the crutch claw - just don't press the button for it but not doing so leads to you have to kill the monster for longer than is required. Even in 4U you could just not use your arts but the game is not designed around not using your arts. If you're skilled enough you can bypass using arts but no matter how skilled you are in Rise not using wyvern riding is ALWAYS going to result in 3-6 monster parts you could've gotten. There's no way to skillfully make up that difference
>4U you could just not use your arts
Black folk who shit on 4U don't even know it doesn't play like GU
I misspoke homosexual, I know 4U had wystones
>4U
>arts
lel. besides that the clutch claw was necessary ebcause they rebalanced monsters areas based on the fact that you should be using the claw to tenderize. no monsters is designed with wyvern riding on mind
>no monsters is designed with wyvern riding on mind
Then why does every monster have its own animation? Why can you only ride every monster once?
>Then why does every monster have its own animation?
it's literally just their normal attacks anon. there isn't an attack that the monsters do while wyvern riding that isn't in their move pool
>Why can you only ride every monster once?
you can actually ride them multiple times. It's been changed to a Status Effect, like Blast and Paralysis, and they have thresholds you have to reach to make them rideable. Only certain attacks (mostly Silkbinds) increase it, though.
Also, the hunt target gets a massive bonus to its mount threshold resistance, so you normally only get the 1 mount
yes and no.
It's still a MH game, with all the trimmings. It's just not a "numbered" title like 4 and World were, according to their development cycle. Think of it like Fallout 3 and New Vegas, with Rise being the New Vegas release.
Here, have something a bit more relevant to Monster Hunter.
You have to use it because you are handicapping yourself if you dont
>You have to use it
Only if you're shit at the game
Being shit or not doesn't impact on the 3-6 extra loot you'll get and the time saved getting them - can't even address that anon's point that not using it is handicapping yourself and making you farm stuff for longer. I don't know about you but I'm not farming almudron longer than I need to be and if my parts can be gotten by bashing his head in 3 times I'll do it
What's the point of playing this game if you're just doing everything possible to not have to hunt a monster? Its one thing to always bring a stealing cat, for the chance at rare drops in the rewards. but why are you being so autistically adamant that you "have" to use riding, and you "have" to get those shiny drops that are 80% of the time just another scale/feather, instead of just playing the fricking game?
>What's the point of playing this game if you're just doing everything possible to not have to hunt a monster
Not all monsters are created equally - not all content is equally fun.
>Its one thing to always bring a stealing cat, for the chance at rare drops in the rewards
Why is that any difference? The net outcome is less time hunting than you would otherwise for parts? It's cognitive dissonance to try to separate the two. Both are intended to be used and both are easy to do and you have to intentionally engage in the mechanics to enable them.
Nothing is stopping you from not using wirebugs, or palicos/palamutes, or even changing your switch skill or using them at all. You can pretend like it's 3U. You don't "HAVE" to engage with them
the difference is that your Palico doesn't stop the hunt for you play Rockem Sockem Monster Rider for 3 more feathers, and instead just passively steals shit to give you at the end of a hunt. If you want to use riding, go ahead. Some of us just use it as an opening to do real damage to a monster instead. just stop pushing this absolutely moronic idea that you "have" to use it, and that those 3 shiny drops will ever matter.
if the dates didn't get fricked by Covid, then we should see info for MH6 releasing next year, yeah. Odds are the games are now split into an alternating Main/Branch games, with main games going on big boy consoles, and the branch games going to switch.
Wait, Rise is a side game? Now I feel like I wasted money.
I don't get it anon is either the game is bing shit that is super easy and you don't have to grind anymore because it give you all its drops for free
Or YOU MUST DO WIVERN RIDING OR ELSE YOU WILL SPEND THE NEXT YEAR GRINDING FOR ONE ARMOR
What is it?
>I don't get it anon is either the game is bing shit that is super easy and you don't have to grind anymore because it give you all its drops for free
Whoa anon, are you just going to put words in my mouth like that? Like I actually said anything remotely like that? Does this look like plebbit to you? Take me to dinner first before you put things in my mouth next time
>changes the flow of the hunt to always do it
moron you only get parts for 3 hits, that's like 15 secs of your entire hunt if you're desperately farming materials that shinys are a big deal to you
that's even less minuscule than the older mounting system, not to mention you can just simply not do it, even TA trannies skip it because 1k is literally nothing to what you can actually deal
saying it's as a big deal as the clutch claw is disingenuous
>moron you only get parts for 3 hits
>he doesn't know
Do you not play sunbreak? Why are you so confident in what you say despite spewing ignorance in your first fricking sentence?
>uhm broo it's so awful i don't want to do it, wait let me buff myself to make it even longer
dumbfrick
Yeah? Where else are you going to move that goalpost anon? Did you know that if you're farming parts you actually yourself time by wyvern riding? You can even use the spare parts for zenny or meldings! Imagine that! Could save you an entire 11-18 minutes that you would kill the monster if you just need a few common pieces too!
Kek it's not the game's fault if you're that desperate for parts that you're abusing a mechanic. You can't say the same about clutch claw because wyvern riding REWARDS you for going out of your way to grind for parts, clutch claw FRICKS YOU OVER for not using it.
>abusing a mechanic
>playing the game the intended way is abusing a mechanic
Do you even think before you type your post?
>the intended way
False, just because they let you bring 10 potions doesn't mean you're supposed to eat 10 potions
>increasing hunter power so much that a fricking GS can kill steve in 13 hits and that number is just going to get lower as builds get more optimized
Bro, that was always something GS could do. Big fricking damage, in the fewest number of hits.
>Bro, that was always something GS could do
Want to know something the GS historically was unable to do? Counter/power armor/reposition
That's nice, but that's not what I was replying to. You can't b***h about GS damage when it was literally always the premiere big damage number weapon.
And, if you played at all in the older games, you'd know that GS was one of the most mobile weapons because the CritDraw playstyle spent 90% of the hunt waiting for the right attack to knock the monster the frick out.
If you don't think the damage output of the GS is tied to how easy it is for them to execute it I have a bridge to sell you
>90% of the hunt waiting for the right attack
Yeah, because they couldn't just counter/power armor through attacks so they had to, you know, use their brain. That's the entire complaint - the uptime of GS is too high and it's overtuned. It's the entire reason why range weapons are so fricking busted
just the critdraw style tho, that was absolutely overshadowed by TCS and hunter arts
You could counter with GS in frontier
anon they literally give you an option to disable it on the menu. holy shit at least play the game
>MASSIVE EXPANSION
>Still can't just pick and play SOSes instantly
I don't give a shit, I'll just play MHFU again
Play Rise if you want a quick casual switch game
Play World if you want a cooler and more immersive experience.
The shitch has no games
Cope and seethe bing tendies
Actually it has two MH games over your precious snoystation 4.5
Good thing I'm not a snoy and can play all of them on my PC, dumb thirdie
i just like monster hunter, why there's such rivalry between world and rise, both are solid MH games
I don't know. I can understand having a favorite between the two but they're both so similar I have no idea what the hell is going on in these people's heads that like one but hate the other.
It's literally just console war homosexualry between sony and nintendo homosexuals. the most cancerous fanbase
Some of it is sony fanboys, also bear in mind people come here to shitpost for the sake of it and then on top of that there's an unironic army of pajeets shilling and counter shilling. Don't use Ganker as a metric to gauge a games quality unless it's universally panned.
>i just like monster hunter, why there's such rivalry between world and rise, both are solid MH games
One is the natural evolution of classic MH on the big screen for home consoles
The other is the crippled bastard child trying to be spiderman
>damage numbers on
>bowgun
>not using mod to make the ui smaller
>using rampages, a mode that resembles so little of Rise's content it's removed in Sunbreak, as an argument for anythinh
homosexual
Just because it was discontinued doesn't make it right you mongoloid. Whoever okayed it is still okaying shit in Rise. It's the same homosexual who okayed the introduction of charms and their power level, the same homosexual who okayed monsters being more aggro and giving everyone fricking counters to shit out high powered moves, and it's the same homosexual who nerfed food so you'd have to go collect fricking birds
Because there are groups / individuals that make it their entire identity to hate things and create rivalries like it's sports.
These same individuals barely play the games because they're almost entirely online waiting for a thread to be made to camp with pre-written notepad dumps and images shitting on the subject matter.
Same issue across the entire website, see the disco elysium posters that have to deal with the one weirdo still going on about communism.
>the one weirdo
agree with the rest though
For MH its 100% Worlds fault. Being a massive success literally broke tendies, I've never seen so much butthurt and whinning like when it released, it was truly phenomenal. Ever since that MH discussions will always be tainted by consolewar homosexualry, can't talk shit on rise cause its the best thing ever since its NOT on a snoy console.
This will be an endless loop for the fanbase, just wait for MH6 be the worst thing ever from the minute the 5-seconds teaser drops.
this, remember when everyone hated styles and Generations?
yeah that was before World released and suddenly GU was the best MH
>Ever since that MH discussions will always be tainted by consolewar homosexualry
Nah see you're wrong about that there was console warring over the psp - 3ds shit.
You're also a moron tribalgayging when the problem is you care too much about the perception of a game on this shit website.
MH thread have always been comfy, love discussing monsters and weapons but it is now impossible because of greasy salty console homosexuals.
Yeah I'll always be salty anon.
there was always consolewarring in the franchise but zoomers brought it to a whole other elvel with world, zoomers are uniquely brand loyalist
>implying millenials aren't
Black person you are literally the same with your shittendo.
>proving my point
no millennials aren't as brand loyalist as zoomers
You pretty much are. Both snoys and tendies are mostly millennials.
at this point? no, zoomers have become the main userbase of both Ganker and the gaming industry as a whole, that's why every game company is attempting to appeal to them
my point wasn't that millenials were never brand loyalist, they were, but the way zoomers are brand loyalist is something even more cancerous, whatever brand they dislike or love is central to their egos and identities in a way that wasn't as common back in the day
PS3 time was worse.
The current generation is nothing compared to millennial console wars.
vehemently disagree, hell by sheer virtue of the fact that ps3/360 actually had funny memes alone that wasn't the case, the vitriol now is on a whole other level, much more bitter
All those memes were made by PC players.
Snoys were absolutely insufferable. Don't remember tendies much they were in a cuckshed.
>All those memes were made by PC players.
rawfl aight then peace
Is that you Jason?
Zoomers don't even play video games how are they brand loyalists to something they don't consume? This sounds like peak late millennial cope
REMINDER
Early millennials (1980-1989) grew up with Nintendo and became the onions chugging tendies that play their switch while Tyrone fricks their wife
Late millennials (1990-1996)
Grew up with Sega and PlayStations counter culture garbage and want video games to be seen as art so they play 30 hour walking simulators with shit stories and pretend they're fine art
T. 49 year old
>Zoomers don't even play video games
???
They watch their favorite streamer play the games that "appeal" to them, zoomers don't even own consoles
i think you have a warped perception of what gaming is today, yes social media ties into it but that doesn't mean they don't play videogames, they do, the only thing social media decides is what they play
PCchads always win
You're instigating the consolewar homosexualry too you dumb butthole.
Its forever tainted, we can never go back anon. Its over and I hate all you poor and stupid homosexuals for it.
You absolute fricking moron. You can go back to it, just stop fricking instigating it and make people feel stupid for doing it and it will eventually stop.
What's the best way to farm MR? I want those Scorned weapons dammit
They fixed switch axe, so who cares.
rise is boring and world is better quality
Normalgays bought world because:
>OMG le epic new game
>it's open world??? (it wasn't)
>woah its a sick new game from japan its just like dark souls
>woah guys did you hear about this epic obscure series called MONSTER HUNTER?
>man these graphics look good
It was hyped and next in line to be the epic hard game from japan for real gamers. At least thats how I see it. By the time iceborne came out this crowd had already left. There was no real reason to assume Rise would continue this trend especially since it released on a toddler handheld and looks like garbage (which I don't give a shit about but normalgays do).
Also, for me it's
FU > Tri > Worldborne > Rise > Gen = 4U >rest
This. I don't think World success will be repeated. Maybe it will with MH6, but I doubt it.
I will, it just needs to be multiplat. There is a genuine enjoyment and desire for Monster Hunter now, it's becoming more mainstream. Whether OG fans want/like it or not is to their own dismay.
I doubt it, MHW sucess was achieved mostly because the HUGE generational leap compared to MHXX, a lot of people wanted to hunt their favorite monster with HD graphics and refreshed mechanics. The next MH will not have such a huge leap.
It will. World is still played by tens of thousands today. I'm glad we can put the bing shit spin-off behind us.
Nah, world is my fav MH but it was a perfect storm. The hype and alot of people having never played MH, not a DaS game for a while and they thought "This is it!". Just a perfect storm of marketing and opportunity.
No doubt MH6 will be great but I seriously doubt it will sell as well, hopefully the G-Rank expac will outsell IB, that was a big dropoff.
You wienersuckers said the same about Dark Souls 2/3 and Elden Ring.
People loved MHW and still has huge playerbase on PC despite its age. MH6 is going to be massive. Elden Ring-big.
I disagree but I hope you're right anon.
Well, all I can say on this is that all my friends bought World but only one of them bought Rise because "it looks stupid": they are all waiting for MH6 because they don't wanna burn out from playing too much Monster Hunter.
Considering how hard Rise flopped on PC, this seems to me a common sentiment. As long as they don't frick it up, MH6 will be huge.
yes anon you are a normalgay and so are your friends
Ok? This doesn't change the fact everyone in my group is waiting for the next one. And I know because I've been BEGGING them to play Rise together for MONTHS, but they'd rather play something else while they wait for MH6.
As I said this seems to be a common sentiment: World wasn't a lightning in a bottle, people are still interested in Monster Hunter. They just don't care about Rise.
>made for actual fans
rofl, come on now. World was casualized, but Rise is even worse in this regard.
We're at like ~1.5 million copies on PC, ~8.5 on Switch.
Did they make money on the port, considering how barebones it is? Yeah, probably. Can it be considered a success? Meh, not really.
I mean actual fans in the extremely loosely, it's a "hey look it's old monster hunter isn't that what you real fans wanted" but with the casualization from world and le epic anime move
>Rise is even worse in this regard.
that's just not true
>styles
>dog item using
Could go on but thats already ridiculous enough, Gen was shit on hard for being casual as frick and everyone hated styles. Rise's combat is literally GU on steroids, its just infinite counters spam while bugs shit buffs on your face.
>its just infinite counters spam while bugs shit buffs on your face.
did you even play the fricking game what the frick
He played it with an infinite wirebugs mod
It depends on the stage of the game. During progression, World is harder; but in end-game you became so insanely strong, everything in the game became trivial except for Behemoth, Ancient Leshen, ATs and Kulve.
Rise is easier 99% of the time, but even with BIS gear you can't kill "normal" monsters in a stunlock. Or at least it's way harder to do compared to World.
I can't comment on Sunbreak, I haven't played it yet. Just comparing base World with base Rise.
>Normies fell for the normies bait game and don't want to play the game made for actual fans
Wow what a ground breaking discovery, tell me more about how world was made to appeal to the lowest common denominator and how rise filters them by looking shit/nerfing shit/letting you fly and shit
>Considering how hard Rise flopped on PC
I don't know if you know what 'flop' means but capcom absolutely made a huge profit from Rise.
>Got money from Nintendo to make it a console exclusive
>Got money from the 7 million tendies that bought rise day 1
>Got money from the morons that bought it twice because they had fomo
>Got money from real fans that waited for them to release a playable version on PC
Capcom keeps Winning
Freedom unite really was the best, but toddlers just can't see because they're blinded by brand loyalty. Didn't care about world much though.
I only ever tried to play a monster hunter on the PSP years ago before World, but always liked the idea of the series. World for me was simply a case of a MH being graphically impressive for the series on the platform I use, PC. I'll be playing the next mainline one as well for the same reasons.
better game than world by far, it didn't sell as much because it isn't for normalgays like world was, world was also the first monster hunter game to succesfully appeal to normalgays basically this
and now the hype is gone, it isn't new and no new monster hunter title on pc will ever sell as well
graphics are not important and rise has better better art direction and gameplay than world, simple as
I'm sorry if it makes me a casual but I very simply didn't and won't buy Rise because it, visually, looks so much worse than World while the gameplay looks so similar. The UI is nightmarishly ugly, the world has no
Why do they want me to pay money for the same game I already played, but worse? The world has no flair, no style. Doesn't have the beautiful varied locations of World, the traditional japanese look just doesn't do it for me, and the monsters didn't impress me with the notable exception of Malzeno.
When I heard my favorite weapon got kinda shafted in Rise I felt vindicated, but in truth even if people said it was improved from IB I still wouldn't have bought Rise because I don't want to buy an ugly cheaper version of MHW that probably still plays like MHW except with monster riding which I think is awful.
Rise is a slog and anyone who says it's good should be ignored
That said, it's worth it for sunbreak. This is very very fun, if still a bit easy.
>generation get a pass for the billions of gather quest
>slog
Stop playing anything at this point
Gather quests are easy and quick. Rise is just easy. There's no challenge to any hunt until later HR due to the high mobility present.
You might as well wait for mh10 because there isn’t gonna be anything mind boggling the honeymoon phase wears off for every single thing if you don’t like it that’s fine
>same game but worse?
Oh so it’s fine for other entry games though right they get a pat?come on now just play any other game and it will have the same issue or worse just don’t buy it
this
I loved World and just want more of the same (but no fricking clutch claw and RNG decos)
Rise wasn't for me at all, tried the demo and hated it, visuals especially - looks like an upscaled PS2 game
>looks like an upscaled PS2 game
upscaled FU unironically looks better than rise.
So is sunbreak a good monster hunter game or just frontiershit???
like 80% of the negative reviews are mod gays who bricked their game cause they didnt uninstall outdated shit
I play GL in Sunbreak and I literalli can't die.
Game is pretty easy and a bit boring
Monster Hunter was better when it wasn't a Toukiden ripoff like Rise Sunbreak is and the sales show that everyone agrees with that.
Monster Hunter players are either literal children or 35+ year old hyper autistic shut ins. I genuinely fricking hate them, it's nigh impossible to have fun outside of solo because every c**t you meet has a negative impact on the game.
I fricking hates Hammer in Rise.
It slowlly turning into Dual Blade, stop giving it so many close gap option.
Its a fricking slow weapon, not a fricking DMC weapon.
Every single weapon is devolving into being fast-paced with a built in counter or super armor because they're making every monster aggro pieces of shits with gay fricking movesets.
At this point I don't see the reason why they still bother making Insect Glaive.
What a fricking moronic game.
I'm hoping that since Rise and World were created at the same time they're going in different directions but World did show signs of being more action focused. Seems like anything tactical is being removed in favor of execution/reaction based combat
World and Rise is still got a complete opposite of movement for each weapons.
Rise is literally you need to go fast, while World still all about waiting and reading moster movement, meanwhile Rise is all about jumping around close gapping.
Sure they add a close gap like clutch claw in IB, but it only work if you use it on the monster and you don't want to use it when it moves all the time.
A Hammer tier 1 side attack in Rise got a freaking close gap, a freaking side blow.
You see how they want to turned MH into some fast pace action game in Rise just by changing this attack.
>World still all about waiting and reading moster movement,
>puts rocksteady mantle on
>whale on monster with health augment weapon
>never die and constantly heal
>clutch claw to the face and wall the monster
>repeat for 10 minutes
you homosexuals are hilarious
>while World still all about waiting and reading moster movement
That hasnt been true for any MH after 3G.
Black person, do you serously thinks Rise is not more faster than World?
People can stop praising rise for being the most action oriented MH and must fun bing shit because its fast.
go ahead, wear those RSM in MR and see how the monster OHKO you because you are too lazy to dodge.
the game is casualized weebshit, it's garbage
Is rise sunbreak the nuts & bolts of the monster hunter series?
No, it's Grunty's Revenge.
It's just a really bad expansion. I don't think there's an argument that Sunbreak isn't the worst G-Rank ever.
The pacing is absolute garbage tier. It doesn't iterate on Rise in any meaningful way, the big gameplay change - Skill Swapping - is completely pointless for the vast majority of the weapon roster. Worst of all, Sunbreak is so barren from content it makes the base game, which was ALSO barren as frick, look big.
I beat Gachigasm and haven't picked it up since. Sunbreak just cemented that Rise is a Monster Hunter to forget outside of a few noteworthy fights like Garangolm and Goss.
Worldsperms pretending to be series puritans while complaining about muh graphics is the funniest shit I've ever seen.
RISE IS A JOKE FOR BABIES
YOUR DICK IS A JOKE FOR BABIES
Sunbreak has brought two of my favorite monsters in the series into the games and I hope to see them again in MH6. ESPECIALLY Malzeno.
Because there's no end game and hardly any new monsters. I had no problem grinding to HR100 for Valstrax but I'm not doing it again for Valstrax now with 20x more health. Have a meta CB set after only 15 hours. Should have brought back the Guiding Lands for low stakes, mindless hunting.
Mounting should go back to MH4u's style, or better yet copy Dragons Dogma style mounting
World keep loosing players after launch, the peak was 320k at launch, and with Iceborne it peaked at 280k.
Rise on the other hand had a peak of 140k at launch, and with Sunbreak release, it reached a new peak of 230k. Perhaps the steam sales player a big one here, but still, Rise gained players compared to World.
This post was made by brainlet hands, holy shit lmao. World is still more successful you moron - it retained more players than the people that ever bothered to even touch rise
>World is still more successful
>World: 18m / Iceborne: 9m
>Rise: +10m / Sunbreak: 2m
Yes
2 million is still really good numbers but MHW was really strong. I think a lot of people fomo'd into MHW and just didn't like it. Rise was a pretty big disappointment for me especially because of the MP shit just ruined it. I feel like I had no control over where I was going or what I was doing so I just solo'd the entire game. I'd buy Sunbreak if they changed the MP to let us see the various hunts.
> I think a lot of people fomo'd into MHW and just didn't like it.
Lots of dark souls homosexuals and normalgays.
>the MP shit just ruined it.
Do you mean Rampages?
No, rampages were fricking terrible but I'm talking about having a list of what hunts are available. In MHW, you just picked a rank and saw 3 dozen hunts going on at any given time. It showed you how long the hunts had gone on for, if someone dropped out, etc. In Rise, from what I saw (I used the MP option maybe 5 or 6 times), you click on a monster you want to hunt and then it connects you automatically. So 3 times I had walked into a hunt that was over 20 minutes. I don't mind helping people out but sometimes I want to start the hunt at the beginning.
what a massive drop off in player retention. I'm honestly not surprised sunbreak is so low considering how fricking horrific Rise was on release.
based anon
Only on Ganker would some moron think 10 million copies of a game is 'low'
I'm sure Capcom is crying into their piles of money and burning thousand yen bills in honor of Abe tonight
It was pretty fricking obvious I'm speaking relatively to world you bad faith dipshit
>b....bad...f..faith
isn't a magic spell to make you less moronic Black personhomosexual
>I'm honestly not surprised sunbreak is so low
anon that's the numbers for less than a week
Anon, unless you somehow think DB is going to sell more than base Rise did it's pretty obvious SB is going to cap at around 4M at most. MHW had what, 18M sold and IB was 9M? MHR was roughly 8M and DB is 2M which is their 10M total. It's an almost 50% loss in player retention between MHW and MHR. If the next MH isn't MHW 2: electric boogaloo I'd wager that'll have less players and MHW was just lightning in a bottle
World was streamer and normie bait. Once half of them realized they couldn't actually beat any of the monsters they all left.
They are not coming back.
Anyone who believes otherwise is severely coping.
anon neither iceborne nor base world had a simultaneous launch on console on PC. but even disregarding the double dips (that rise also had but sunbreak launched the same time on PC and switch) it took around 5~6 months for it to get to 4 million units (and that include one holyday season). actually the activity for the game was higher on the holiday season right before iceborne than on iceborne itself
World was the normiest of all Monster Hunter it attracted lots of newbies.
Rise is as good as older Monster Hunter if not better
I just dont care about monster hunter anymore after world. Its all the same shit
What possesses people to endlessly shitpost like this?
Just a pretext to make some easy money by recycling World assets until the real next MH comes out.
>recycling World assets
They literally remade everything on a new engine. If anything, this game is a test for RE engine.
I tried the demo as a fu and tri boomer and it felt like information overload and everything felt jank
only tried GL though
the ability to fly with gunlance was cool tho ill give them that
which game do I play if boomer mh is too grindy but I don't like the insane movement and speed of zoomer mh
what weapons do you like?
gunlance and heavy bowgun are my beloved
with a soft spot for bow/gs
oh ok
well I thought world was much more grindy but rise is much faster. I think what will make or break will be the weapons. I can only speak for GS. on both world and rise TCS is king but you can go for alternative playstyles. in world you can use crit draw for the old snipe GS and in iceborne (not base world) you can go for the frostcraft, a skill that will buff your next attack after a period your weapon is sheathed, to help emulate better the old snipe GS. for rise crit draw was nerfed from 100% to now 60% but you can try the new rage slash, an attack that replaces the TCS giving you super armor and more damage if you take damage while charging, and in sunbreak (not base rise) the surge slash combo, that replaces the normal combo for the GS with faster attacks. give them a look on yt, but from what you said I think you'll like world better
thank you for ur thoughts
Ill give world a shot since im a huge crit draw fan
I genuinely don't get the cucked mentality of consolewar posting.
It's a poorgay thing.
If you can convince yourself that the product you don't have access to is bad, you won't feel bad for not being able to playit. And if you can get others to agree, that'll validate your opinion and you'll feel even better about having made "the right choice™" when purchasing products. There's genuine criticisms of the games, but 90% of the posts are sour grapes console homosexualry.
What a garbage thread
>rise is so bad the crap guide SnS meme eceleb doesn't care about sunbreak even though oils have returned
>eceleb
>eceleb
>eceleb
>oils
for me it was the bug skills, I'm hoping they drop this shit if it ever gets a sequel
Bug skills will probably go away
bug mobility probably won't
Why did rise mindbreak monster hunter world fans? The only people you ever see comparing the 2 on the steam discussions are the ones that proudly display their thousands of hours on world and their 5 hours on rise
Just killed Narwa, gonna grind to HR100 before starting Sunbreak because I wanna see what happens. What's the consensus on shelling types? I like to full burst with wyvernstakes on counters and big openings but I also use wyvernfire and hail cutter with blast dashes here and there. Can't really pick between normal and long
Remember to laugh at them
The funniest cope post to me is still the one saying it's fake cause rakna is standing on the water.
Every time I see this I'm reminded that the only people that care about console wars are Playstation users and they have to make it about literally everything
>same falseflagger from the same thread
>them
Embarassing attempt. Tendies can't meme.
Found the summer tourist
>Every other post made on /mhg/ was the same guy
Schizo-kun.... You're too powerful
>homosexual worldies will never recover
troony hunter
I miss investigations, it was the perfect endgame grind system
Now I hit random on Anomaly and have to fight a shitty Azuros and MR100
>investigations
>the perfect endgame grind
Are you delusional? I don't know anyone sane who did investigations over just running quests/events for late game iceborne after getting the bare minimum that they needed from them.
>you know remember mentally ill consolegays screaming how rise was MH6 and world a spin-off
Fun times.
How can they put the PS button symbols in the PC version? Aren't they copyrighted?
people review bomb if they have hardware issues
I warned you but you didn't listen
Honestly if they ignored rampage shit and doubled the monster counter I would welcome it as GU2, but yeah it was pretty shitt especially after Wolrd. No doubt capcom lost alot of faith with customers by releasing that shit on steam.
no, it is forever ruined by arcade-like gameplay, no amount of monsters can fix it
Wow Poopbreak sold only half of Iceborne in Japan (bing bing shit nation)
the base game gimmick is shit and they doubled down on it
monsters are also itchynose tier shit, no wonder real MH fans despise rise and nintendo tr00ns gobbling it
it's unbelievable that people complain about a game with one of the best rosters in the entire franchise
>muh roster
what difference does it make when whole game itself is shit
by your own logic you could call smash a mh game because it has rathalos or something stupid like that
i sighed up for monster hunter, but what i got is monster counter or monster beater, you might like it but i don't, and lots og fans feel that way too
>what difference does it make when whole game itself is shit
but it isn't, it's pretty good
>the base game gimmick is shit and they doubled down on it
I thought rampages were gone in SB?
anti risegays don't actually play the game. If they did they would realize how fun it is.
half of you bad faith arguing brand loyalists never even played the game it seems, why not just try it on pc, it runs on a fricking toaster for christ sake
>delusional risegays on damage control
Why don't you just add to the discussion instead of being massive homosexuals?
but have you played the game anon
Ok, now that Poopbreak is confirmed shit, when is MH6?
Btw what do people mean with "bone weapons"? Weapons that are mostly metal but with monster parts attached?
Yes.
there are two main trees of weapons, bone and iron, iron has better sharpness, bone has better damage i believe
What about defender
i believe defender gives you a couple more deco slots in exchange for something else
Defender gear is an overpowered armor and weapon set specifically designed to rush through the base game and reach the expansion ASAP. If you're a new player, don't use it.
oh shit yeah what
said i got confused with the village tree