BTW gay tony and lost & damned sold like shit and were huge wastes of time and resources. The company pretty much gave up on single player DLC after how poorly they performed.
No, they gave up on it entirely due to poor sales. GTAO just reconfirmed the conclusion they already came to after 4's DLCs were a disaster.
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if they gave up due to poor sales then why is there dlc shit in the leak? im pretty sure they cancelled it right when gtao got very popular because if they cancelled it due to low sales then why even have dlc shit in the leak to begin with
Partially true. Undead Nightmare actually outsold GTA IV's expansions despite GTA IV selling far more than RDR1, which is why the planned GTA V's DLCs were wacky ones like a zombie apocalypse or an alien invasion.
i can tell you for a FACT that i dropped any conception of buying gta iv dlc when i saw it was more grungy ass liberty shitty biker dlc. gay tony came out far too late when i had already mentally clocked out of the series.
trevor stomping that skinhead was the best thing rockstar ever did.
okay but when are devs gonna start asking themselves WHY they are budgeting $300 million dollars for absolute slop
rockstar can get away with it but requiring 5 million full price sales just to break even is not sustainable in the slightest.
>REEEEEEEEEEE th-they put out three GTA games in one gen 20 years ago why can't they do that now? >"it's b-b-because those d-damn israelites are making GTAO money"
you people are so fricking moronic
Daily reminder that GTA is a shitty franchise that has yet to fix the flaws from the first open world version, GTAIII.
>Cops are called no matter what, even if you do something that no one sees >Cops always know where you are no matter what, even if they didn't see you
This was a flaw from the first game and it still persisted by the fifth. It makes committing crimes and running from teh cop pointless, since there is no real life strategy to evade them. It's just exploiting the shitty algorithm. It persisted in 10 years of development and technological advancement, but still wasn't changed because Rockstar is not a talented developer. They are lazy and just happened to stumble across lightning in a bottle with GTAIII, which barely was a working game. A more talented developer with the license would have made games with great graphics and better gameplay without these flaws.
Also GTAIV was the peak in physics and vehicle collisions and they downgraded it massively for GTAV. Inexcusable. You had more years to work with the powerful PS3 hardware, and all you did was upgrade the graphics?
Like it or not there probably isn't a better solution with the size of the player base they have >make escaping cops too easy >half your 100M audience b***hes about it being too easy >make escaping cops too hard >half your 100M audience b***hes about it being too hard
Same shit applies to the physics in GTA 4, people love b***hing about how the handling was downgraded in 5 and making moronic videos about how you could flip an SUV just by wobbling it back and forth in 4 then completely ignore that a Lambo or a Ferrari handled the same way and could also be flipped.
Driving motorcycles was nearly impossible in the base game and felt like you were driving on ice covered in grease, it was so bad they literally had to overhaul it for the DLCs since they both had a much larger focus on using them.
>Half the budget is for marketing
Can developers stop pretending that it's part of the budget. Nobody is impressed you spent over $100,000,000 for fricking billboards and ad-spots.
I bought GTA3 for cheap since I saw it while at the mall and wow I fricking hate it, no wonder you never see anyone talk about it, I should've just gotten SA or Vice City
the gameplay isn't much better but the story and aesthetic of Vice City is cool and therees much better things to do in San Andreas and the story is decent too though abit overrated
I bought GTA3 for cheap since I saw it while at the mall and wow I fricking hate it, no wonder you never see anyone talk about it, I should've just gotten SA or Vice City
also the experience does depend on whether you are a fan of the radiostation music of not unironically, if you discover some songs you end up liking in those games it adds to the experience
what a joyous occasion for you, anon. now you play vice city or san andreas with greater appreciation for how much they’ve improved over gta 3. it’s not every day in 2024 that one can chain an experience like that.
Never really like GTA as a series. SA was the only one I played to completion. It's the only one where I thought the atmosphere and story were nearly perfect. The game was a perfect balance of being ridiculous and serious when it needed to be.
GTA 5 was just the most boring slog ever. The game takes itself way too seriously and the humor is reddit tier. I have no hope for 6 being anything other than the a political and virtue signaling shitfest
Why did GTAV sell 8 times more than the other games?
I won't even claim GTAV is bad. But it's not 8 times better than the other games. Not even thrice or twice better.
most of GTAV sales come from Chinese, they buy game and hack get ban and make new account and rebuy. Yes they're farming money to sell the accounts while trying to not get banned.
The only reason is because GTA Online has made them and it's still making them a crazy amount of money. Also the fact that FIVEM is extremely popular and has brought so many sales of the base game. Look how quickly RDR2 online died, and how they never supported it like they did with GTA. They couldn't monetize it the same way they did with GTA so they threw it all to shit. Frick J*
all of this just for better graphics
And gameplay
There's nothing stopping new gameplay additions from being implemented in a game with SA/GTA4 graphics.
i doubt it since gta v’s gameplay was worse than iv
rockstar is just fat and lazy after finding their infinite money stream
>And gameplay
b***h it's GTA V.2, it's V with a new map and coat of paint
After San Andreas they've actively removed things in exchange for poorly thought out mini games
you didn't like to go bowling?
Rockstar Sandboxes never had the best gameplay
They found out GTA online prints money
the main team kept actively developing GTA6 while a smaller team kept making GTAO updates, it would've taken a decade regardless
>the main team kept actively developing GTA6
[citation needed]
They dropped GTA 5 Single Player DLCs (Similar to Gay tony and Lost damned) for focusing on GTAO
BTW gay tony and lost & damned sold like shit and were huge wastes of time and resources. The company pretty much gave up on single player DLC after how poorly they performed.
they gave up because of gtao not due to poor sales
No, they gave up on it entirely due to poor sales. GTAO just reconfirmed the conclusion they already came to after 4's DLCs were a disaster.
if they gave up due to poor sales then why is there dlc shit in the leak? im pretty sure they cancelled it right when gtao got very popular because if they cancelled it due to low sales then why even have dlc shit in the leak to begin with
Partially true. Undead Nightmare actually outsold GTA IV's expansions despite GTA IV selling far more than RDR1, which is why the planned GTA V's DLCs were wacky ones like a zombie apocalypse or an alien invasion.
i can tell you for a FACT that i dropped any conception of buying gta iv dlc when i saw it was more grungy ass liberty shitty biker dlc. gay tony came out far too late when i had already mentally clocked out of the series.
trevor stomping that skinhead was the best thing rockstar ever did.
Single player DLCs are just more GTAV, just like GTAO updates.
as it should be. we only uses 40% of the map on the original single player
im a youtube shorts addict. is the game worth a play through, it says 30 hours to beat the single player and 80 to 100/100 it
started rdr2 but dropped at the beginning btw
I dropped it because the game kept crashing no matter how much I tinkered with the settings. The first PC game I've ever had this problem lel
But gta4 cost $100 million to make
Units sold not budget. Plus I’m pretty sure GTA4s number is higher now.
>Units sold not budget
Everything is fake news nowadays I can't deal
because they're moronic, and all the old people who used to make them left.
playing the og trilogy for the first time. I finished 3 and I'm currently on Vice City pretty good so far.
Units sold right?
okay but when are devs gonna start asking themselves WHY they are budgeting $300 million dollars for absolute slop
rockstar can get away with it but requiring 5 million full price sales just to break even is not sustainable in the slightest.
don't ask questions, just produce product and start sending development code to india to develop new product
>GTAVI
>$2 billion
What are they doing with all that money? More cars?
Weren't they busy making RDR2 at first?
How did SA cost more than IV?
all the sovl they pumped into it
San Andreas had a ton of famous voice actors.
IV is when they stopped using celebrities entirely
>IV is when they stopped using celebrities entirely
What about Ricky Gervais and Bill Burr?
and Katt Williams, or JB Smoove, DJ Pooh, Jesco White, Kenny Loggins, and Cara Delevingne in V
possibly radio song licensing too, but i’ve forgotten any heavy hitters in the gta 4 soundtrack
it had shit from Kanye West and Bob Marley so I don't doubt it was expensive as well
>REEEEEEEEEEE th-they put out three GTA games in one gen 20 years ago why can't they do that now?
>"it's b-b-because those d-damn israelites are making GTAO money"
you people are so fricking moronic
this but unironically and without the antisemitism
GO BACK
Same reason why it’s taking Elder Scrolls VI to release, GTAV and Skyrim just keep selling and making money
Daily reminder that GTA is a shitty franchise that has yet to fix the flaws from the first open world version, GTAIII.
>Cops are called no matter what, even if you do something that no one sees
>Cops always know where you are no matter what, even if they didn't see you
This was a flaw from the first game and it still persisted by the fifth. It makes committing crimes and running from teh cop pointless, since there is no real life strategy to evade them. It's just exploiting the shitty algorithm. It persisted in 10 years of development and technological advancement, but still wasn't changed because Rockstar is not a talented developer. They are lazy and just happened to stumble across lightning in a bottle with GTAIII, which barely was a working game. A more talented developer with the license would have made games with great graphics and better gameplay without these flaws.
Also GTAIV was the peak in physics and vehicle collisions and they downgraded it massively for GTAV. Inexcusable. You had more years to work with the powerful PS3 hardware, and all you did was upgrade the graphics?
To be fair they had to work on a mid 2000s CPU
Like it or not there probably isn't a better solution with the size of the player base they have
>make escaping cops too easy
>half your 100M audience b***hes about it being too easy
>make escaping cops too hard
>half your 100M audience b***hes about it being too hard
Same shit applies to the physics in GTA 4, people love b***hing about how the handling was downgraded in 5 and making moronic videos about how you could flip an SUV just by wobbling it back and forth in 4 then completely ignore that a Lambo or a Ferrari handled the same way and could also be flipped.
Driving motorcycles was nearly impossible in the base game and felt like you were driving on ice covered in grease, it was so bad they literally had to overhaul it for the DLCs since they both had a much larger focus on using them.
>Half the budget is for marketing
Can developers stop pretending that it's part of the budget. Nobody is impressed you spent over $100,000,000 for fricking billboards and ad-spots.
i played the gta trilogy recently on my switch. it sucks, lol boomers have terrible taste. 6 is going to be revolutionary
I bought GTA3 for cheap since I saw it while at the mall and wow I fricking hate it, no wonder you never see anyone talk about it, I should've just gotten SA or Vice City
the gameplay isn't much better but the story and aesthetic of Vice City is cool and therees much better things to do in San Andreas and the story is decent too though abit overrated
also the experience does depend on whether you are a fan of the radiostation music of not unironically, if you discover some songs you end up liking in those games it adds to the experience
what a joyous occasion for you, anon. now you play vice city or san andreas with greater appreciation for how much they’ve improved over gta 3. it’s not every day in 2024 that one can chain an experience like that.
It's all a scam to keep their $100k+ jobs where they don't do anything going on for 5+ years
They wanted to make sure it makes as much money as possible
Never really like GTA as a series. SA was the only one I played to completion. It's the only one where I thought the atmosphere and story were nearly perfect. The game was a perfect balance of being ridiculous and serious when it needed to be.
GTA 5 was just the most boring slog ever. The game takes itself way too seriously and the humor is reddit tier. I have no hope for 6 being anything other than the a political and virtue signaling shitfest
Why did GTAV sell 8 times more than the other games?
I won't even claim GTAV is bad. But it's not 8 times better than the other games. Not even thrice or twice better.
>released and upgraded visuals and performance on 3 generations of hardware
>consistently fed with updates to both SP (at first) and MP
Because Russians love buying Shark Cards.
most of GTAV sales come from Chinese, they buy game and hack get ban and make new account and rebuy. Yes they're farming money to sell the accounts while trying to not get banned.
>posting numbers without telling what they are
As usual, OP is a homosexual. Kudos to the anons that explained that those are units sold.
The only reason is because GTA Online has made them and it's still making them a crazy amount of money. Also the fact that FIVEM is extremely popular and has brought so many sales of the base game. Look how quickly RDR2 online died, and how they never supported it like they did with GTA. They couldn't monetize it the same way they did with GTA so they threw it all to shit. Frick J*
Because you morons kept buying GTAV and spending money online.
Why do zoomer morons love this franchise so much?
they haven't played many other games and as you said they are zoomers Ie young
when I was young I used to think an open world crime simulator was the idea of an ultimate game too
but then I refined my taste for what kind of videogames really suit me personally