Why did Rise of Nations fail where Age of Empires succeeded? It's way better as a game.

Why did Rise of Nations fail where Age of Empires succeeded? It's way better as a game.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite RTS alongside Codename Panzers

    >Why did Rise of Nations fail where Age of Empires succeeded?
    My guess is the competitive scene

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    age of mythology and empire earth are also much better than age of empire

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I never played Empire Earth, what's it like?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        age of empire but from stone age to nanotech age. i think it's pretty nifty

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I really hated how clunky it felt and took fricking ages to do anything. The camera is really bad and super zoomed in. Rise of Nations is better

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Clunky but pretty whack. There was a civs editor comparable to MoO2 that would let you dictate the strengths like better mining or higher hitpoints. My only real memory of it was murking a bunch of savages picking over some pumpkins while I flattened their village with WW1 tier artillery and rifle fire. There were some interesting setups that could be done if you ran with future tech vs the renaissance or early industrial age. Any further and it becomes a curbstomp fest without sufficient numbers to back it up.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Than AOE1 yeah sure, but no way those are better than AOE2.
      I love those but EE doesnt really excel at any of the ages, and having stone age clubmen fighting robots is fun as a concept more than in practice. Even with AOM being excellent, AOE2 is just too good.

      I never played Empire Earth, what's it like?

      A bit clunkier with the 3d unit movement but still worth checking. But just play the campaigns, the AI is COMPLETELY broken in single player random maps. Thankfully it doesnt show as much in the more limited campaign scenarios. Not a big fan of the expansion

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        AoE 2 is so fricking overrated, and I honestly don't know why. RoN is better in almost every way.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      AoM had potential if they bothered to go further into the ancient pantheons but they kneecapped themselves by chaining the gods to a tech tree. Anything that can't match the standard set by the basegame won't make the cut without some tweaks. So you won't be seeing match ups like Perun vs Horus or Cernunnos vs Zeus.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The problem with that is you really only get to focus on myths that are established and have things people really know about other than the general former existence of it. How much Celtic stuff do you think you could use to flesh out an entire in game faction without accidentally going into the Norse?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What you mean?
        I'd figure the main issue would be differentiating each culture; atlanteans for example don't feel like a far enough separation outside of reusable god powers which should be baseline for everyone.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Atlantis isn't even a fricking civilization or mythology, it's just Greece with a different name.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope this is good, but I highly doubt it's going to be.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the world map mode with nukes was pretty cool from what i remember

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rise of Nations was so good

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker is fricking weird, I randomly reinstalled RoN a few hours ago...now this pops up

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hows it? I remember it was getting some broken updates a year or two ago on steam. It also had completely broken audio at some point

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think those audio issues are fixed but it has weird ass balancing issues that fricked some units up that have not been fixed without steam workshop mods if nothing has changed since I last played it several years ago.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        fun nostalgia, the soundtrack is still excellent, the graphics held up better than the AoE remakes too. Real shame it was just abandoned, its got more variety and scope than AoE, plus its faster and more fun than Civ, you'd think there would have been a bigger market for it amongst strategy fans.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you'd think there would have been a bigger market for it amongst strategy fans.
          Certainly because 4X is boring as shit. My personal issue though is that aren't any more RPG/RTS like warcraft. There's spellforce but it's too junky even though I had lots of fun with shadow wars

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    great game

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >popular bad
    >unpopular good

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really can't give you a valid answer there Didn't catch on with the MP crowd? I think the idea of city-states as such may have been too far traditional RTS audience.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      RTS "fans" are boring c**ts

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    wish they hadn't abandoned the remaster

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poor release timing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >RoN came out a year after WC3
      Maybe.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any link to get that one?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Check the archive site.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rise of Nations is a good RTS and tons of fun. The issue is that in the late 90's and early 00's there were so many great RTS games coming out that there weren't enough genre fans to buy all of them. Suffering from success,

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason Rise of Legends flopped despite being objectively a far better game than Rise of Nations.

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