>NSMB
it literally IS a nsmb game. the fifth one. sixth if you count new super luigi. seventh if you count the rerelease of NSMB U. eighth if you count the rerelease of NSLB. hell, even NINTH if you want to count NSMB on the wii U virtual consone.
>it literally IS a nsmb game.
It really is not. And even if you insist on making comparisons like that, then Wonder is more like MM2's 3D World Style than it is like NSMB.
Why you insist it's like NSMB all the time I have no idea. Because they kept air stalling?
Damn, that's grim. Wasn't Final Fantasy 16 seen as a massive flop for pulling similar numbers? What happened? I thought Spider-Man was Sony's biggest system seller next to GoW?
>FF16 still only at 3M in 9 months >Pikmin 4 is unironically at 3,3M
Wait are you telling me that the meme about how FF16 would get outsold by Pikmin 4 in japan ended up being true worldwide? How the frick do you manage to frick a series popularity this badly?
Then there's mario rpg that sold 3 million in 6 weeks and will continue to sell. Silly to think people still don't love turn based gameplay and elemental attributes.
>try appeal to PS5 dudebros >dudebros only care about sportsball and CoD
many such cases
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Yeah it's hard to comprehend the scale of SE's idiocy. They wanted the gritty GoW/TLoU western moviegame audience and Game of Thrones fans to flock to FF.
But they try and deliver it with their typical porcelain face animu characters. They piss off their fanbase who like those kinds of characters by abandoning RPG parts, and fail to appeal to their 'target audience' because those players don't want anime Game of Thrones. They want Game of Thrones.
S-M2 sold 8 million in just two weeks. Wonder sold 4.3 million in its first two weeks. S-M2 outsold Wonder 2:1 despite Switch having 3x bigger install base than PS5. Why lie, OP? You could have used TOTK for your console war shitposting purposes.
>S-M2 sold 8 million in just two weeks
No, it didn't. It sold 5 million in 2 weeks.
6.1 is the last number from the Insomniac leak. And you accuse others of lying. Typical Snoy
Sorry, you're correct. 5m in 11 days. I don't know where I got 8m from. Regardless, my point still stands. Spiderman2 outsold Wonder despite Switch having 3x bigger install base than PS5 >Typical Snoy
I have not owned any console in 20 years.
>Regardless, my point still stands. Spiderman2 outsold Wonder despite Switch having 3x bigger install base than PS5 >12 million < 6 million
Are you dumb?
The thing is that Wonder seems to have legs.
Nintendo games tend to be evergreen and sell for years without going in a discount bin, can you say the same for Spider-man 2?
S-M2 sold 8 million in just two weeks. Wonder sold 4.3 million in its first two weeks. S-M2 outsold Wonder 2:1 despite Switch having 3x bigger install base than PS5. Why lie, OP? You could have used TOTK for your console war shitposting purposes.
Because everyone else who was still wary about purchasing the game finally realized it was a lazy, overrated $70 asset flip that didn't live up to the 6-year wait or its hype, desires or expectations. Simple as that.
I have a PS5 but I decided not buy Spider-Man 2 after I saw Sweet Baby's involvement. Everything they touch is has woke troony homosexualry all the way through it.
Wonder was the first new 2d Mario game in what, 11 years?
Spiderman 2 was the third ps4 Spiderman release in 5 years.
Mario Wonder managed to retain the core formula while providing a fresh experience unlike the previous games with a slew of playable characters.
Spiderman 2 was a rehash that did next to nothing that the other two didn't.
Mario sold because it's a solid game.
Spiderman sold on brand.
I bought spiderman for ps4 when I still had one, but even if I owned a PS5 I wouldn't buy spiderman 2. I don't know who the frick the other dude is, but I grew up with very limited knowledge about spiderman and there was only 1 of them. This game is clearly not the same franchise as the one I grew up with, so my interest in it is equally non existant.
NTA but Ben was meant to replace Peter. The point of Ben was to have Peter move on and settle down while Ben was basically the new Spider-Man. Marvel was trying to have their cake and eat it too. It ended up being such an intensely unpopular decision that they ended up killing him off.
>Why did Spider-Man 2 fail to outsell Super Mario Bros. Wonder?
Because rather than improving what i enjoyed about Spiderman PS2 and PS4, Devs double it down on their cons, making it a shit sequel
SM2 didn't only not outsell SMBW, it was also vastly more expensive to make.
Spending 300 million dollars on a game is nuts; Nuts, I say. That shit isn't sustainable. Just think of how many interesting little games that could have been financed with that sum.
Because videogames are for children.
Snoygays seething lmao
>Because videogames are for children.
Yeah because grown adults play fricking Spider-Man lmao
Because Wonder is a better game and got more attention for addressing the sterility of NSMB.
>NSMB
it literally IS a nsmb game. the fifth one. sixth if you count new super luigi. seventh if you count the rerelease of NSMB U. eighth if you count the rerelease of NSLB. hell, even NINTH if you want to count NSMB on the wii U virtual consone.
but it literally is not, they finally freshened level design and mechanic
>it literally IS a nsmb game.
It really is not. And even if you insist on making comparisons like that, then Wonder is more like MM2's 3D World Style than it is like NSMB.
Why you insist it's like NSMB all the time I have no idea. Because they kept air stalling?
You know how Sony fanboys are, unless it's a Sony game they see every game that uses the same IP as the exact same game.
Seriously, when you see the comparisons between wonder and NSMB's animations it's ridiculous it went on for so long.
Have you considered that Switch's sales are almost triple to PS5's
Damn, that's grim. Wasn't Final Fantasy 16 seen as a massive flop for pulling similar numbers? What happened? I thought Spider-Man was Sony's biggest system seller next to GoW?
>similar number
Spiderman 2 Sold 6.1M in 1.5 months while FF16 still only at 3M in 9 months
3 million is very good for a DMC clone
>FF16 still only at 3M in 9 months
>Pikmin 4 is unironically at 3,3M
Wait are you telling me that the meme about how FF16 would get outsold by Pikmin 4 in japan ended up being true worldwide? How the frick do you manage to frick a series popularity this badly?
what's worse is that pikmin 4 was undoubtably cheaper to make than FF16
by a factor of 10 or more, lmao
Then there's mario rpg that sold 3 million in 6 weeks and will continue to sell. Silly to think people still don't love turn based gameplay and elemental attributes.
>try appeal to PS5 dudebros
>dudebros only care about sportsball and CoD
many such cases
Yeah it's hard to comprehend the scale of SE's idiocy. They wanted the gritty GoW/TLoU western moviegame audience and Game of Thrones fans to flock to FF.
But they try and deliver it with their typical porcelain face animu characters. They piss off their fanbase who like those kinds of characters by abandoning RPG parts, and fail to appeal to their 'target audience' because those players don't want anime Game of Thrones. They want Game of Thrones.
I'm surprised they managed to sell 3million.
Tendies will buy anything
And Snoys will buy nothing lol
>S-M2 sold 8 million in just two weeks
No, it didn't. It sold 5 million in 2 weeks.
6.1 is the last number from the Insomniac leak. And you accuse others of lying. Typical Snoy
Sorry, you're correct. 5m in 11 days. I don't know where I got 8m from. Regardless, my point still stands. Spiderman2 outsold Wonder despite Switch having 3x bigger install base than PS5
>Typical Snoy
I have not owned any console in 20 years.
>Regardless, my point still stands. Spiderman2 outsold Wonder despite Switch having 3x bigger install base than PS5
>12 million < 6 million
Are you dumb?
The thing is that Wonder seems to have legs.
Nintendo games tend to be evergreen and sell for years without going in a discount bin, can you say the same for Spider-man 2?
S-M2 sold 8 million in just two weeks. Wonder sold 4.3 million in its first two weeks. S-M2 outsold Wonder 2:1 despite Switch having 3x bigger install base than PS5. Why lie, OP? You could have used TOTK for your console war shitposting purposes.
Tendies will buy anything
Because capeshit is just that. Shit.
Because it's mario.
Yeah, Spiderman is just too much of a niche IP to compete with the big guys.
Because Mario is stronger than a fridge
because Mario games are for a bigger audience and are just more fun in general.
Spider-man is also for general audience, kids and families... well he used to be before...
>~12 million
damn
guess Tendies are the only ones who actually play games around here
Spider man 2 was shit that's why, no one wanted to play as a deaf nigris tagging nyc with poc propaganda
because mario wonder is an actual video game
Bigger install base, better videogame.
I only play games with White and Asian characters.
TotK sales stagnated after lunch, look at the sale after lunch and compare them to the sales numbers we just got.
totk is still the 2nd best selling zelda game ever
they are absolutely lucky it sold well as it did
garry's mod mode is not worth recycling the old map... it's a 70$ DLC pack
Because everyone else who was still wary about purchasing the game finally realized it was a lazy, overrated $70 asset flip that didn't live up to the 6-year wait or its hype, desires or expectations. Simple as that.
>it only sold twenty million units it bombed
Do you know how moronic you sound?
Q2
>The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 19.50M (+990K)
Q3
>The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - 20.28M (+780K)
Its doing great tho
Yeah, it's also a purely single player game with no DLC coming, it wasn't gonna have some crazy legs
>TotK sales stagnated after lunch
Took BotW 4-5 years to hit 20 million.
TotK did that in 6 months.
>it-its a flop!!!
The absolute fricking state of the schizos on this board.
It flopped spiritually.
>Forced flop
>snoys constantly rail against advertising and cartoony games
>Super Mario outsells it by at least half
Gee, I'm not so sure why Mario outsold Spider-Man.
communists don't believe in money, and thus, they don't have the resource necessary to buy games
It wasn't what people wanted, capeshit is out of style and the game's version of Miles is dogshit.
wasn't spider man 2 more expensive than the fricking movie?
yup, and it's from the leaks, not marketing bs
Is Wonder good? Is the gameplay Odyssey like or the garbage Wii U games?
it's a 2D sidescroller. it's literally a carbon copy of new super mario bros, but with slightly different graphics.
Yeah but Odyssey has 2D sections that were good, the gameplay felt off in the Wii U games
Spider-Man is mega popular, but good luck trying to outsell Mr. Video Games in his territory.
for the same reason Mario 64 outsold Spider-Man for the PS1 you braindead flamewarring piece of shit
Remember all the people who said spiderman 2 would destroy mario wonder in sales? The opposite happened
I have a PS5 but I decided not buy Spider-Man 2 after I saw Sweet Baby's involvement. Everything they touch is has woke troony homosexualry all the way through it.
>the first 2d Mario games in years VS a run of the mill capeshit game we get almost monthly at this rate
gee i wonder
Wonder was the first new 2d Mario game in what, 11 years?
Spiderman 2 was the third ps4 Spiderman release in 5 years.
Mario Wonder managed to retain the core formula while providing a fresh experience unlike the previous games with a slew of playable characters.
Spiderman 2 was a rehash that did next to nothing that the other two didn't.
Mario sold because it's a solid game.
Spiderman sold on brand.
I bought spiderman for ps4 when I still had one, but even if I owned a PS5 I wouldn't buy spiderman 2. I don't know who the frick the other dude is, but I grew up with very limited knowledge about spiderman and there was only 1 of them. This game is clearly not the same franchise as the one I grew up with, so my interest in it is equally non existant.
>and there was only 1 of them.
I mean, how old are you? Because miles isn't technically the first.
I'm 33. I watched like 2 spider man movies growing up and played a PC game. I remember in particular a movie about the green goblin or some shit.
So you just didn't really pay much attention to Spiderman. I mean, Ben Reilly, Kaine, Miguel O' Hara all came before Miles.
That said Miles is definitely the worst case being made explicitly to replace Peter.
NTA but Ben was meant to replace Peter. The point of Ben was to have Peter move on and settle down while Ben was basically the new Spider-Man. Marvel was trying to have their cake and eat it too. It ended up being such an intensely unpopular decision that they ended up killing him off.
they fricked up by not caling it spider ben
>Why did Spider-Man 2 fail to outsell Super Mario Bros. Wonder?
Because rather than improving what i enjoyed about Spiderman PS2 and PS4, Devs double it down on their cons, making it a shit sequel
Palworld outsold both combined.
>12m is more than 18m
Palgay education on full display.
Because it’s a troony game? Wonder is based and lets us use waifus. Only reason I bought it was because you can use Daisy. Daisy best girl.
Waifu > gay troony Black person game
Based waifu anon, I wish rosalina was playable in wonder.
no Black folk in mario
SM2 didn't only not outsell SMBW, it was also vastly more expensive to make.
Spending 300 million dollars on a game is nuts; Nuts, I say. That shit isn't sustainable. Just think of how many interesting little games that could have been financed with that sum.